Boston Marathon Bomber is believed to be a radical, Ivy League leftist, a Brown University student missing for a month. His name is Sunil Tripathi. His partner, Mike Mulugeta has been shot and killed by Boston police after a firefight in which an MIT cop was shot and killed. (Info via police scanners)
Tripathi, who is identified by a white cap in the FBI photos released late this week, was a philosophy major at Brown University, not far from Boston. He comes from a well-to-do family; his father is a rich software engineer.
The student went missing last month without a trace. The FBI became involved in the case, even though it was a presumed suicide.
From pics I saw, looked as if Mulugeta was the perp on the ground and taken into custody. Stated the other suspect (Tripathi) ran a police car blockade in a black SUV. Perhaps he was the one killed.
"They then stole a car at gunpoint and drove away with the car's owner still on board.
They released the driver unharmed."
This poses a question. If they where not homicidal maniacs, why hurt so many innocent people with nail boms? If they were trying to make some sort of political statement why destroy any possible understanding from the population by murdering civilians?
What stinks? This is straight forward terrorism. Sounds as though a bomb plot was suspected but that the public were not warned. Questions to be answered later but all this conspiracy theory is embarrassing. Us Brits have faced terrorism for years, there was never any suggestion that UKGov was behind it, I find it difficult to understand the response of a section of US bloggers. Delusional?
I'd be more concerned about Obama using executive powers than any possibility of the Boston bombing being a conspiracy.
No, I find it odd that you have a private security firm in situ with radiation detectors at suspected ground zero, suggesting they were basically clueless. They were on scene at the point of a bombing and weren't able to apprehend or identify the perps. Huge questions about basic competencies, in my experience and my time in the military most explanations are centred on incompetency rather than conspiracy. You guys have far too much faith in your law agencies.
Yeah,right. And the "Irish terrorism" that you are no doubt refering to, had nothing to do with the government.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_loyalismCollusion with the security forces
"During the Troubles, there were incidents of collusion between loyalist paramilitaries and members of the state security forces (the British Army and Royal Ulster Constabulary). Some were members of both paramilitaries and the security forces. As well as taking part in paramilitary attacks, some soldiers and policemen are alleged to have given weapons and intelligence to loyalists, turned a blind eye to their activities, and/or hindered police investigations of them. The De Silva report found that, during the 1980s, 85% of the intelligence that loyalists used to target people came from the security forces.[24]
The British Army's locally-recruited regiment, the Ulster Defence Regiment (UDR), was almost 100% Protestant[25] and seen as especially prone to loyalist infiltration. A British government document from 1973 (which was declassified in 2004), named "Subversion in the UDR", states that:
An estimated 5–15% of UDR soldiers were directly linked to loyalist paramilitaries.
It was feared that UDR soldiers were loyal to "Ulster" alone rather than to "Her Majesty's Government".
The UDR was believed to be the "best single source of weapons, and the only significant source of modern weapons" for loyalist paramilitaries.
The British Government knew that UDR weapons were being used by loyalist paramilitaries.[26][25]
In 2011, British Army documents from the 1970s were uncovered, which revealed collusion involving '10' UDR battalion (based at Girdwood Barracks in Belfast). According to the documents:
About 70 of the battalion's soldiers were thought to be linked to the UVF, but only two were dismissed on security grounds;
One unit was suspected of siphoning-off £47,000 to the UVF and equipment was regularly stolen from another unit to support the loyalist group;
UVF members, including a member of the Shankill Butchers, often socialized at the UDR's Girdwood Barracks social club;
Army chiefs considered secretly test firing UDR soldiers' weapons to check whether they had been used in sectarian murders;
The Army's collusion investigation was halted after a senior UDR officer claimed it was harming morale; and
The Army chose to keep the investigation a secret.[27]
The collusion also involved British agents or informers within the loyalist groups. One of them was UDA intelligence chief Brian Nelson, who secretly worked for the Army's Force Research Unit (FRU). FRU provided Nelson (and thus the UDA) with intelligence on republican activists, theoretically so that the UDA would focus on targeting them rather than civilians.[32] A report released by the Police Ombudsman in 2007 revealed that UVF members had committed a string of serious crimes, including murder, while working as informers for RUC Special Branch. It found that Special Branch knew of this but had given the informers "immunity". It ensured that they weren't caught, helped them during police interviews, made false notes and blocked searches for UVF weapons.[33] UVF brigadier Robin 'the Jackal' Jackson has been linked to between 50[34][35] and 100[29] killings in Northern Ireland, although he was never convicted of any and never served any lengthy prison terms. It has been alleged by many people, including members of the security forces, that Jackson was an RUC agent.[36] According to the Irish Government's Barron Report, he was also "reliably said to have had relationships with British Intelligence".[37]
So....the British Government helped and colluded with murderers, terrorists and gangsters? Just another example of Governments finding use for fear and terror and you find it hard to understand why autonomous people are suspicious?
Nobody knows how far up the food chain the collusion went. I was referring to the rules at the time of IRA arrests. I do understand your suspicion, but where is the cold, objective assessment?
And conversely, we find it hard to understand the responses of Brits who accept the official versions of events all too willingly.
FWIW, I don't think there is much to see on this one. Looks like homegrown leftist whackos. That doesn't much support the hoped for theme that this was the work of "paranoid rightwing gunowners."
I understand your defensiveness about the right to bear arms, but credibility is completely blown by the likes of Alex Jones when EVERYTHING is twisted into a conspiracy against the right wing. I don't think there is anything to see here except for a lot of human misery and a remarkable reliance on private security agencies, of questionable competency.
You are wrong about Brits we were totally against Gulf War two. Because of our history we tend to think much more strategically than CIA wallas and the pro war lobby.
I confidently predict that the lefties in your press and media will end up with egg on their face just as Alex Jones undpubtedly will. The smart people keep their mouth shut and their eyes open.
"MIT teacher and journalist Seth Mnookinhas been tweeting from Watertown throughout the night. He reports that a naked man arrested earlier was eventually released. "Apparently wrong place/time scenario.""
Boston Marathon Bomber is believed to be a radical, Ivy League leftist, a Brown University student missing for a month. His name is Sunil Tripathi. His partner, Mike Mulugeta has been shot and killed by Boston police after a firefight in which an MIT cop was shot and killed. (Info via police scanners)
bobowens.com
"Video footage emerged of a suspect lying on the floor, and later being led into a police car after being stripped of his clothes.
Police later said one suspect had been hit by bullets during the chase and later died.
It was unclear whether the arrested man was the suspect who had died."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22212946
Three men?
May 1 bitchez: sound money, buy silver!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGZ5f1G1Ep0
+1 for raising our battlecry. Bitchez!
"missing for a month"...translation: vacationing at camp MKULTRA.
Tripathi, who is identified by a white cap in the FBI photos released late this week, was a philosophy major at Brown University, not far from Boston. He comes from a well-to-do family; his father is a rich software engineer.
The student went missing last month without a trace. The FBI became involved in the case, even though it was a presumed suicide.
@ Sheeple
From pics I saw, looked as if Mulugeta was the perp on the ground and taken into custody. Stated the other suspect (Tripathi) ran a police car blockade in a black SUV. Perhaps he was the one killed.
Yeah, just seen the vid. The guy on the groung dosent look too good, he must have died whilst in custody. Thanks anyway.
So queue burial at sea ASAP?
Along with a sizable portion of ZeroHedgers P.Ms.
+1 for spotting the opportunity ;)
From B.B.C:
"They then stole a car at gunpoint and drove away with the car's owner still on board.
They released the driver unharmed."
This poses a question. If they where not homicidal maniacs, why hurt so many innocent people with nail boms? If they were trying to make some sort of political statement why destroy any possible understanding from the population by murdering civilians?
This is staged. You've seen "Wag the Dog", haven't you? So you know, where this will lead to ...
"Give me your vote on tuesday - I will produce 'Good old Shoe' wednesday." Likewise ...
@ Sheeple Point well taken. This whole thing stinks like hell.
What stinks? This is straight forward terrorism. Sounds as though a bomb plot was suspected but that the public were not warned. Questions to be answered later but all this conspiracy theory is embarrassing. Us Brits have faced terrorism for years, there was never any suggestion that UKGov was behind it, I find it difficult to understand the response of a section of US bloggers. Delusional?
I'd be more concerned about Obama using executive powers than any possibility of the Boston bombing being a conspiracy.
Are you by any chance concerned about this 'straight forward terrorism' being nothinh more than a great charade to overawe the public?
No, I find it odd that you have a private security firm in situ with radiation detectors at suspected ground zero, suggesting they were basically clueless. They were on scene at the point of a bombing and weren't able to apprehend or identify the perps. Huge questions about basic competencies, in my experience and my time in the military most explanations are centred on incompetency rather than conspiracy. You guys have far too much faith in your law agencies.
Ever wondered, if this could be by design?
Way too visible I am afraid.
"Hidden in plain sight" is mostly hidden best. It's darkest right under the lantern, I tell you.
Yes and No in this case No.
Yeah,right. And the "Irish terrorism" that you are no doubt refering to, had nothing to do with the government. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_loyalism Collusion with the security forces"During the Troubles, there were incidents of collusion between loyalist paramilitaries and members of the state security forces (the British Army and Royal Ulster Constabulary). Some were members of both paramilitaries and the security forces. As well as taking part in paramilitary attacks, some soldiers and policemen are alleged to have given weapons and intelligence to loyalists, turned a blind eye to their activities, and/or hindered police investigations of them. The De Silva report found that, during the 1980s, 85% of the intelligence that loyalists used to target people came from the security forces.[24]
The British Army's locally-recruited regiment, the Ulster Defence Regiment (UDR), was almost 100% Protestant[25] and seen as especially prone to loyalist infiltration. A British government document from 1973 (which was declassified in 2004), named "Subversion in the UDR", states that:
In 2011, British Army documents from the 1970s were uncovered, which revealed collusion involving '10' UDR battalion (based at Girdwood Barracks in Belfast). According to the documents:
During the 1970s, a secret alliance of loyalist militants, British soldiers and RUC officers known as the Glenanne gang carried out a string of sectarian attacks against Catholics.[28][29] Former members have alleged it was commanded by British Military Intelligence and/or RUC Special Branch.[29][30] The Pat Finucane Centre has attributed 87 killings to the Glenanne gang, including the Dublin and Monaghan bombings (1974), the killing of John Francis Green, the Miami Showband killings (1975), and the Reavey and O'Dowd killings (1976).[29] A number of these attacks has been affirmed by Glenanne gang member and RUC officer John Weir, who claimed that his superiors knew the collusion was taking place.[31]
The collusion also involved British agents or informers within the loyalist groups. One of them was UDA intelligence chief Brian Nelson, who secretly worked for the Army's Force Research Unit (FRU). FRU provided Nelson (and thus the UDA) with intelligence on republican activists, theoretically so that the UDA would focus on targeting them rather than civilians.[32] A report released by the Police Ombudsman in 2007 revealed that UVF members had committed a string of serious crimes, including murder, while working as informers for RUC Special Branch. It found that Special Branch knew of this but had given the informers "immunity". It ensured that they weren't caught, helped them during police interviews, made false notes and blocked searches for UVF weapons.[33] UVF brigadier Robin 'the Jackal' Jackson has been linked to between 50[34][35] and 100[29] killings in Northern Ireland, although he was never convicted of any and never served any lengthy prison terms. It has been alleged by many people, including members of the security forces, that Jackson was an RUC agent.[36] According to the Irish Government's Barron Report, he was also "reliably said to have had relationships with British Intelligence".[37]
Aside from the aforesaid, other high-profile attacks and assassinations where collusion has been alleged include the McGurk's Bar bombing (1971), the 1972 and 1973 Dublin bombings, the killing of Pat Finucane (1989), the Cappagh killings (1991), the killing of Eddie Fullerton (1991), the Sean Graham bookmakers' shooting (1992), the Loughinisland massacre (1994), the killing of Robert Hamill (1997) and the killing of Rosemary Nelson (1999)."
Thatcher headed up a dirtyish war against the IRA. IRA were content with the rules that were established. The families got a bit upset.
So....the British Government helped and colluded with murderers, terrorists and gangsters? Just another example of Governments finding use for fear and terror and you find it hard to understand why autonomous people are suspicious?
Nobody knows how far up the food chain the collusion went. I was referring to the rules at the time of IRA arrests. I do understand your suspicion, but where is the cold, objective assessment?
Conspiracy Theory? Delusional?
Go back to sleep. When I want to live in a shithole like the UK, I'll wake you.
Ha ha, do you travel widely in the US?
Do YOU travel widely in Britain? Birmingham? Nottingham?
Try the post-industrial northen towns like Blackpool, Wakefield, Doncaster. Grim.
Define shit hole and I will give you an answer.
And conversely, we find it hard to understand the responses of Brits who accept the official versions of events all too willingly.
FWIW, I don't think there is much to see on this one. Looks like homegrown leftist whackos. That doesn't much support the hoped for theme that this was the work of "paranoid rightwing gunowners."
I understand your defensiveness about the right to bear arms, but credibility is completely blown by the likes of Alex Jones when EVERYTHING is twisted into a conspiracy against the right wing. I don't think there is anything to see here except for a lot of human misery and a remarkable reliance on private security agencies, of questionable competency.
You are wrong about Brits we were totally against Gulf War two. Because of our history we tend to think much more strategically than CIA wallas and the pro war lobby.
You honestly believe TPTB would let a crisis like this go to waste? No way!
I confidently predict that the lefties in your press and media will end up with egg on their face just as Alex Jones undpubtedly will. The smart people keep their mouth shut and their eyes open.
"MIT teacher and journalist Seth Mnookinhas been tweeting from Watertown throughout the night. He reports that a naked man arrested earlier was eventually released. "Apparently wrong place/time scenario.""
????????
They should get their wings right if they expect to pull this off.
Sunil Tripathi. Got a name that sounds similar to Barack Hussein Obama. Maybe that's his uncle.