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Suspects' Father Says He Believes Sons Were Framed
Just like an episode of Homeland mixed in with some George Smiley and topped off with a dose of Jack Bauer, the day continues to unfold in the most bizarre of ways:
JUST IN - ANZUR TSARNAEV, FATHER OF SUSPECTS IN BOSTON MARATHON BOMBING SAYS, HE BELIEVES SECRET SERVICES FRAMED HIS SONS. BBC. #911BUFF
— 911 Operator (@911BUFF) April 19, 2013
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Thank You for your post. I'm amazed at how effective the psyops are in fooling the zombie masses, formerly known as sheeple.
If these guys hadn't been stopped, they would have set the Reichstag on fire next.
Manufacturing consent.
"When media news coverage of issues is bias in favor the status quo, these are the results:
1. ownership of media is held by major corporations with interests and goals similar to power elite elements of society
2. people with different views, "dissenting voices," are not heard much
3. the breadth of debate is limited
4. the official stance and institutional memory prevail and become history
5. people's interest and attention are often diverted away from issues about which they could become concerned"
Agreed. That's how it's done. Minimal risk of insurrection by law enforcement officers.
And MSM play their part too by stating that "our job is to report the news".
Open borders. Let Chechnian Muslims or Saudis come into the country or Somalis and they will do what they do. Then the rest of Americans lose all their rights. I am sure they are helped along by the powers that be as well.
We have been leading up to this for quite some time. What else are they going to do with all the veterans coming home to no jobs?
This guy was detained for a FB comment.
http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/chesterfield-man-ordered-held-for-evaluation-after-facebook-posts/article_54dade74-3771-550a-99f6-73aa8980ef81.html
The political establishment has the ability to make news. The president holds a press conference and his subject (gun control for instance) is the news. To be fair the news doesn't always pay attention. During the W Bush admin (preemptively designed) national addresses did not always get full tv news coverage, or even a majority of networks.
Regarding the DOJ, and its various arms, there is often no investigation without a whistleblower. Rep Duke Cunningham was convicted of bribery, etc and is doing 8 years. SoDistAG Carol Lam would have never prosecuted him if the San Diego paper hadn't laid the story on her desk (literally sent her a copy).
Trial by media is sometimes a good thing. Trial by media is how we got justice for OJ Simpson. The problem is when the judge blocks evidence, sequesters jury, and bans the news media from the courtroom. You at home watching TV get all the evidence, good bad or indifferent, so that when someone like OJ went to trial, there were probably only twelve people if all of LA who didn't know what was going on.
A policemans job is to arrest someone for the crime and get a conviction. Its up to the jury to decide if the evidence is valid, and under the old system (blocked evidence) a lot of innocent people went to jail, people who are now being released when DNA evidence clears them. The police have a role in this matter, but blaming them misses about 90% of the issue, which is judges, juries, evidence, and the bogeyman in all this, eye witness testimony, which is the least credible of all evidence.
Idiots who watch TV and Hollywood enable this.
Gestapo ? Well , the Reichssicherheitshauptamt (DHS) is
in place.
Like from 'Brazil':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSQ5EsbT4cE
"falsify intelligence data going out to the police and law enforcement"
The PROBLEM is that this is STILL on an exponential growth curve, with no end in sight ...
One of the phases of that process that I care about was that hemp, the single best plant for people, for food, fiber, fun and medicine, was rebranded as "marijuana which is almost as bad as murder." The government had no problem passing and enforcing laws that "marijuana is as bad as murder" for decade after decade, despite the FACT that marijuana has never killed anyone. That is the single, simplest symbol of the general runaway social insanities that have almost totally taken over the government.
The militarized police forces have been selected and trained to enforce laws based on lies. Getting paid depends on them agreeing with ridiculously absurd huge lies, and beating the shit out of anyone else that does not agree with those huge lies. The police are picked to be able to be trained to ACCEPT FALSE INTELLIGENCE DATA.
Therefore, they personally become more psychotically detached from reality, since they have to continue to believe in huge lies, and continue to deliberately ignore any evidence or logical arguments which would contradict the huge lies that they have been brainwashed to ACCEPT as true bases for action. That is going to continue to grow into a worse monster, that will eventually destroy itself, after it works its way through all the easier targets.
There is no doubt that governments have always been the worst terrorists, and biggest mass murderers, and there is no doubt that America is on the way to break all previous records in that regard ... BUT ... There are no sane solutions to these problems that I can imagine being possible, since weapons of mass destruction have been added into this ...
The worst problem continues to be the runaway excessive triumph of the established systems of frauds, backed by force. The basic reality that ALL human beings MUST share is they operate some systems of organized lies, operating organized robbery, in order to live. The paradox is the final failure which results from too much "success" from doing that.
The government of the USA has become a completely runaway system of bigger lies, backed up by more violence. Precisely because that was so "successful" for a few people, who were able to build a bigger and steeper social pyramid system, with them at the top, and everyone else more desperate not to be pushed down to the miserable bottom, the Vicious Wolf People who dominate civilization have been able to recruit a lot of relatively more domesticated Dog People, in order to control others.
The vast majority of We the People are increasingly the victim of the runaway systems of frauds, backed by force. For a while, in the past, more of them used to benefit from those systems. However, those systems of lies backed by violence had an automatic and inherent tendency to become increasingly psychotic, the more successful they were at promoting bigger lies, backed by more violence.
We are watching the tragedy develop from the police becoming increasingly mad. They are required by their duties to become increasingly insane. They were selected and trained to become seriously psychotic. There are no reasons to believe that this can be fixed in any good ways. They are going to continue to become madder, and that will result in them destroying themselves too, after they destroy almost everyone else.
While it is getting harder and harder to sort through the possible aspects of various false flag attacks, there is no doubt that the basic political realities in the USA today are due to the past triumphs of false flag attacks, which have driven an increasingly psychotic national security!
The truth about real events should be relatively simple and consistent. Only lies end up presenting contradictions and absurdities. While it is very difficult, to sort through the layers of contradictions and absurdities, in order to attempt to figure out what story might be closer to the real truth about the situation, the FACT that there are abundant absurdities and contradictions in any story means that there is something seriously wrong with that story.
This latest episode in Boston appears to become more blatantly "falsified intelligence data," the more that I look at it. However, that DOES fit into an overall pattern of the runaway triumph of crazy organized crime taking over the government of the USA, at an exponential rate, for more than a Century.
The next couple of doublings of that collective social insanity are probably going to go off the scale of all previously known human history. I doubt that many of the relatively domesticated Dog People understand what the Vicious Wolf People are planning to do to them too, later!
Those Dog People who do wake up to the deeper realities regarding the Vicious Wolf People are already the veterans that are obviously being set up to be primary targets for demonization and destruction in the future.
Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, way too few of the people who were selected and trained to become the relatively domesticated Dog People are able to understand or do anything about the real path that the Vicious Wolf People have laid out for them to follow.
The Vicious Wolves "falsify intelligence data going out to the police and law enforcement." The more domesticated Dogs that ACCEPT acting on the basis of those lies are thereby preparing to commit suicide, (or be suicided, which is the crazy use of language that we have gotten used to, as an ACCEPTED description of that kind of false flag murder). However, there are no good reasons to believe that enough of them would be able to understand that enough to be able to prevent that.
In the same way as a fundamentally fraudulent financial accounting system is now totally tangled up with everything else we do, so too, the enforcement of the law has become totally tangled up with the enforcement of lies. The deeper problems are that most of us still continue to approach these issues using false fundamental dichotomies to attempt to understand these things, and therefore, fall back on the same old-fashioned impossible ideals, as somehow supposed to still be the solutions.
The deeper truth is that all human realities are always necessarily organized systems of lies, operating organized robberies. The police were ALWAYS doing that. However, they have been doing that at an exponentially greater rate, and too much of that kind of "success" drives them mad, and that madness becomes self-destructive, after they have destroyed everyone else who were easy targets.
It is practically impossible for our political processes to make and maintain better dynamic equilibria between the different systems of organized lies, operating organized robberies, because the biggest and worst ones of those are the governments, which are totally based on their bullshit projections onto everyone else.
Thus, governments are always, necessarily, the biggest gangsters and terrorists, who are covertly controlled by those groups which are the best organized ones who do that. The only sane solutions have to be based on accepting that everyone operates through some systems of organized lies, operating organized robberies, which then would enable a better ecology of those to evolve.
Right now, we are insanely committed to having the worst terrorists, the governments, continue to "falsify intelligence data going out to the police and law enforcement" that everybody else, but the governments, are the terrorists.
Almost all of our "political science" itself is an expression of the biggest bullies' bullshit social stories. Those basic models of the world are FALSE INTELLIGENCE DATA, because our basic understanding of everything is BACKWARDS.
Again, THAT is why there are no reasonable hopes for the future, other than for all these trends to get worse, faster, at an exponential rate, whereby the fascist police state that the USA is turning into will become almost unimaginably worse in the foreseeable future.
" "Dzhokhar Tsarnaev" is Chechen for "Bill Ayers." "- Iowahawk
Compartmentalized Fascism.
So are the Russian's going to start dumping NY condo's now?
Lee Harvey Oswald was sent to Russia by the CIA.
Later, back in Dallas, the CIA ad FBI double-crossed Oswald and set him up to be the Patsy for the JFK killing.
Part of the US Government plot to frame Russia and Cuba, to start a War.
Now the Boston bombing suspects are said to have been born in Russia/Chechnya.
More US Government FBI patsies from Russia?
Conspiracy Theory in 3...2...1...
looks like chupacabra came through but a little late. And one haruph to boot.
Ding ding ding! We have a winner!
Tamerlan looks like the real fuckhead, and his bro just tagged along for the ride.
I bet they are a part of a stronger cell.......unless Tamerlan just decided to go ape shit.
"BREAKING: CNN has learned the suspected Boston Marathon bomber screamed, "I am John Galt!" as the explosions started." - Aaron Earls
Andrew Cuomo's brother then shouted, "HE IS NOT A DEE-AH!"
There's no way his first name is Justin.
Is Boris claim conspiracy?
If so, I wouldn't be surprised at all.
Day in, day out we continue to lead our lives in this huge giant fake paper pyramid scheme with not a hint of protest from anyone anywhere. So many people blind to such a huge scam. Nothing surprises me anymore.
We all, now, cash our paychecks, take the blue pill and try and see as much the world as possible before the travel restrictions kick in.
dealing in reality has been exhausting.
Amen G
In my despair a good friend told me " your right, its not real, but its the only reality you get to live in"
He'll go on huffpoop and the libtard's will lick him from top to bottom and eventually he'll have his own spot on the site and maybe even movie rights!
BOTH PATSIES.
No need for a "Jack Ruby" this time as neither will be taken alive.
Dead suspects tell no tales....
Suicide is a better ending to the script.
Well, the offiicial story -- er, cover story -- has changed so many times that it's surely nonsense.
It's like the flip flops the government made in the Kennedy Assassination. First they said the rifle was a German Mauser, and then they changed it to a Mannlicher-Carcano, which is known as the humanitarian weapon because it never killed anyone on purpose.
Fucking wow, Barney Frank claiming homegrown terrorists are a greater threat than foreign born terrorists.
That is ironically hilarious coming from Frank.
The spin machine goes full retard.
If Tamerlan was gay that would explain it. His GF was only his friend. His father was absent. He dressed "European" and drove a flash car. Boxing is pretty gay. A confused Muslim is a dangerous Muslim.
He then paused as he wiped some creamy white goo that was dribbling down his chin.
Framed? In Amerika? Never...Just ask the Central Park Five.
The uncle is going off! "YOU BRING SHAME TO CHECHNYA! BEG THE FORGIVENESS OF BOMB PEOPLE."
The only thing that can save America now is more anti-terrorism laws, the alphabet agencies, and less freedoms. Its the only way to save the country.
Fuck yeah!! We need the Patriot Act cubed! We need martial law now! We need distractions! We need circuses! We need bread! We need a fucking clue!
It's the only way to save the government and its beneficiaries.
Yes indeed -no one should pass through a metal detector at an airport without a thorough body cavity seach -of all openings. We need more TSA agents. A bomb shniffing dog should be sniffing every ass at the airport. Female dogs for women of clurse.
Car jacked an SUV at gun point and robbed a 7-11 store on there own for sure. That we know. Apparently they have made or posted several jihadist vidoes. Jihadist are what they are and it's ok to see these people as terrorists. The sooner Americans see Islam as a danger the better off we will be. Immigration needs to stop these people from coming here and it is that simple.
I'm not giving the Obama administration a pass though because we are apparently fighting along side the terrorists in Syria. Why is that Obama? Will anyone in the media ask the administration why we are fighting along with Al-queda there? Why do we continue to arm the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt?
Buy a clue.
Exactly. Chechen jihadists were funded by Saudi Arabia as a proxie army of the CIA. I'm sure Putin has a long memory and an axe to grind. Maybe these guys are pissed that the CIA offered their relatives or village up for a good ole Russian thermobaric bomb.
You are kidding yourself. "We" don't know shit, except the shit we are fed. You would be wise to stop yapping, as would the other nattering nabobs here who together know a grand sum of zilch. But, since wisdom has left the building.........
Nice picture,
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/fbi/boston-bomb-photo-657490
It is a nice picture. Notice the gray haired caucasion wearing sunglasses and a BACKPACK behind and to the left of the kid. That MUST be another bomber and cell member! He must be stopped!! We must petition our legislators to ban backpacks while we're at it!!!
... logic has never been one of your stronger points I take. Do you see any back packs on him as he is running away from the scene?
I never mentioned any need for legislation. Nor would I ever. Let me have my gun and my freedom and leave me the hell alone. If that mf'er comes in my house he's done and his father can suck a big one.
Many other people had backpacks at Boston marathon. That one photo Not quite proof which person placed the bomb backpack.
Rubio is helping Obama. If they pass their amnesty - we are f**ked and yoru guns are gone.
yep, thats what Israel wants.........fuck u neo-cons
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9157043/Toulouse...
http://intellihub.com/2011/08/07/navy-seals-involved-in-military-drills-...
That's the problem with bombers. The self defense claim can't be used. Thus the backup plan to escape responsibility is the "they were framed" excuse.
It's a bitter pill to swallow when all you can really say is...maybe they were just sick bastards.
Recent history has shown it is unwise to make the assumptions you just did.
Have you completely left the rails? Let's just ignore all of the evidence including the guy who ID'd one of them after they blow off his legs. Ignore the backpacks, the proximity, the dead cops...all of that.
so they can frame a couple of Chech saps? Really? You think that's an assumption?
The grand conspiracy...thousands of cops all lying to frame a couple of kids. For what reason?
I am an avid ZH fan but I swear somedays...the train leaves the tracks.
LOL!
I guess we should just throw "innocent until proven guilty" out the window?
I can't keep up with the plot !
they haven't written it yet
The answer is probably in the comments somewhere but I haven't time to go through them all. Question is who is this white naked guy who was arrested?
http://12160.info/video/fbi-pulls-suspect-out-of-police-car-to-photo-him-at-crime-scene
white naked guys are always arrested, except on Reno 911.
And why is this even posted on ZH? It does not fit with the false flag BS that's one reads here along with the 911 nonsense.
smartstrike, it is impossible to understand the money system unless one understands the murder system that backs it up. It is impossible to understand how the world can operate through a fundamentally fraudulent financial accounting system, unless one understands how completely common flase flag attacks were throughout history.
The current crop of Fraud Kings that control the world have their roots in the history of the War Kings. The basic concepts of militarism, which have been stated by military historians for thousands of years, from ancient China, through Europe, and now into North America, are that success in war depends on deceits.
Militarism is the supreme ideology, within which the monetary system operates. Triumphant militarism was based on the history of those who were the best at dishonesty prevailing, which included that spies were the most important soldiers. Therefore, it is totally appropriate for Zero Hedge to cover these kinds of stories. The FACT that the financial world is based on triumphant frauds can not be understood without understanding the forces that back those frauds up.
Did I see "BBC"? It would be just like the Beeb to carry a report claiming the innocence of the alleged perpetrators. Why? 'Cos they just love kissing Muslim arse.
we all-the intelligent democratic prog tards- know that white priveledge did this. and as soon as a progtard gives his future earnings , goods, and lif e away , we will be safe. or bush did it.
Choose a patsy... kill the patsy.
So convenient, neat and tidy.
it starting to look to me someone put them up to doing this
Thanks to the State run media the truth can never be known about anything. It's all one big PSYOP. You only know what you get told, you're only told what you need to know, and you don't need to know shit..........
An entire, major metrolpolitan area in "lock down" because of one teenager on the loose.
Cower in fear inside your homes, sheep. Un-f**king-believable.
Gary Bettman is apoplectic.
Lets all hope that the whole world is not watching.
If they are, they now know that an entire city can be shut down by one man.
Proverbs 26:13
A sluggard says, “There’s a lion in the road, a fierce lion roaming the streets!”F****ng libtard, Kennedy loving Red Sox nation arsehole who voted for the dear muslim. Voted for Deval Patrick who pushed the MEGA Roxbury mosque down their throats wit the help of CAIR aka Saudi Arabia. They sued decent Mass folks who tried to stop the mosque using endless amounts of Saudi money.
Things will be entertaining when this shit all falls apart. These paramilitary cops will be at home trying to protect their HD-TVs, wives and their boyfriends.
Unwitting bagmen for the terror drill the feds were conducting.
Or.. unwittingly patsies or actual witnesses.
I saw the picture of the guy who placed the backpack over the railing near the mailbox and neither of these guy's look like him.
Were all guilty now until proven innocent if they can go ahead and kill a "suspect" of a crime
Serves many means to an end for TPTB. No more privacy now at this point.
This lockdown extends to Conn.. I just heard there is ' Tank-looking thingys' at New London ferry
CT? LOL! Hopefully Hujeimar/Balizer or whatever his ***king muslim name is - takes out a few hedge fund a managers in Greenwich. Maybe he is trying to get some golf in with his cap and with our dear golfing muslim baby allah leader.
What a bunch of liberal cowards in the NE. They voted for this and for Islamization with their muslim teleprompter.
No Mr. they were not framed....They will be bagged and tagged...Or boxed to go....
scopolamine or similar, perhaps... it's possible.
it's time to send in Jack Ruby .....that'll fix it ......
If Bostonians were like Texans, this guy would have been hang and quartered already. That's WHY gun control never works, these two would have never made it this far if every Bostonian was carrying a Kel-Tec P11 on them. We could have been watching the Bruins game tonight, but everyone is stuck like a deer in headlights because they are unarmed and can't take this little fruit loop out with a well-placed shot in between the eyes.
Wait, like these two Texas prosecutors who carried guns and still got shot to death? http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/18/us/woman-charged-in-texas-prosecutors-...
Moron.
The old "pizza delivery" line never fails to open the door.
Somewhere in all this speculation I read that the "Pressure Cookers" were printed to read 6Liters, not in Quarts. If true and you emmigrate to the USSA why in the hell would you cart a "Pressue Cooker"? Just asking! Milestones
Here are pictures of the supposed pressure cooker bombs:
http://deadspin.com/heres-whats-left-of-the-boston-marathon-bombs-474768291
NWO requires USA to convert to Metric system, ongoing process well along its path.
Enjoy the lockdowns whether they be in Boston, NY or Conniticut now I'm hearing. It'll just make Marshal Law easier for New Englanders to accept.
NE liberals kiss a lot of islamic asz. Cowards.
So dad thinks his son was framed? That he's innocent?
nyet nyet Soviet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoIyfEH8Bn0
this has the makings of yet another conspiracy theory. oh goodie!
Yes, framed by an ism.
Possibly another sting operation gone wrong, just like the first WTC bombing.
And a FOIA request needs to be submitted to ask "please tell us more about the 'anonymous tip' you received before the bombing.'" Heard that tip mentioned once. Haven't been following this "be afraid, be very afraid" tempest in a teapot much since then.
This shit sounds all too familiar. Just another rendention of "OH MAH BABY, HE DIN DO NUTHIN. HE WAS TURNIN HIS LIFE AROUND".
That is a terrifyingly frightening statement.. The gold chart today looks unnatural..
Would surprise no one!
When the microphone was left open, he told the Russian President that he would attack Chechnya after the election when he would have more flexibility.
Now, in the movies, if one flees the scene of a shootout, they are trailed by at least 1,000 cop cars, motorcycles, dump trucks, buses, bicycles, tricycles, wagons, roller skaters, wheelchairs, baby strollers, and people on crutches. What happened in this case in which Suspect #2 [sounds like a game show] escaped?
Same thing happened in France weeks before Sarkozy lost his election. It was a false flag to make people elect him.
But anyway: the simple fact that we can't trust our government and that we can believe it can do things like that shows how bad is our situation.
"...Suspects' Father Says He Believes Sons Were Framed..."
goddamned right they were framed by the cia goons.....