FBI Interviewed Tamerlan Tsarnaev In Early 2011: Suspects' Mother Claims FBI Set Up

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Yesterday we reported that the initial, and largely expected, response by the father of the Boston bombing suspects, Anzor Tsarnaev, was that they had been set up by US secret services. As RT reported further, in an interview with Russian television the brothers’ father Anzor Tsarnaev also claimed that they are innocent and somebody might have set them up. "I’m sure about my children, in their purity. I don’t know what happened and who did this.  God knows and he will punish them,” he told Zvezda channel. “Somebody might have set them up. I don’t know who and because of their cowardice killed the boy."

The father said he was unable to contact his sons or other relatives. “Everything is switched off. I can’t reach my brother there either. I can’t reach anyone! I just want information. Now I fear for my boy, that they will now shoot him dead and then will say 'He had a gun'.”

“I fear for my son, for his life. They should arrest him, bring him, but alive. Justice should investigate who is right and who is wrong,” he said.

Mr Tsarnaev recently spoke to his elder son, Tamerlan [Suspect #1], telling him that he should take care of his younger brother. Speaking of the Boston marathon bombing he told his son “Ok, Thanks to Allah you were not close to there and did not suffer.”

“I remember I even asked “Who could do something like that?”

“We just talked. I asked him about our Dzhokhar [Suspect #2], how was he. I told him, he should help him out and keep an eye on him, so that he studies well. I told him ‘You left school, got married too early, but the kid should finish [his education]’. Because this is life – those who don’t study work a lot and work hard. That’s why I was telling them study”.

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As said up front: largely an expected reaction of shock and initial denial that one's children ended up behaving in a less than anticipated fashion. So it was not unexpected that the mother also decided to go the conspiracy route, and allege the boys conduct was "set up" and that the FBI had been following them for years.

Again from RT:

Zubeidat Tsarnaeva maintains her younger son is innocent and like so many of the brothers’ acquaintances, claims they were good, courteous kids and model students – especially the younger 19-year-old Dzhokhar. A US citizen who is presently in the Russian Republic of Dagestan, she revealed to RT some suspicions of her own.

 

Grief-stricken at the latest developments in the case, Zubeidat expressed her dismay at the allegations, recounting Dzhokhar’s life in the US and talking of his status among his peers and friends: he was an honors student, loved by many of his friends and teachers. And his older brother Tamerlan was a star athlete and student, whose ambition was to one day appear on the US Olympic wrestling team.

 

But her biggest suspicion surrounding the case was the constant FBI surveillance she said her family was subjected to over the years. She is surprised that having been so stringent with the entire family, the FBI had no idea the sons were supposedly planning a terrorist act.

 

They used to come [to our] home, they used to talk to me…they were telling me that he [the older, 26-y/o Tamerlan] was really an extremist leader and that they were afraid of him. They told me whatever information he is getting, he gets from these extremist sites… they were controlling him, they were controlling his every step…and now they say that this is a terrorist act! Never ever is this true, my sons are innocent!”

 

When asked if maybe she didn’t know about some of her sons’ more secret aspirations and dark secrets, she said “That’s impossible. My sons would never keep a secret.”

 

Finally, she said that if she could speak to her youngest – Dzhokhar, she would tell him, “Save your life and tell the truth, that you haven’t done anything, that this is a set up!”

A clip of the above:

More deranged appeals to some conspiracy theory involving the FBI? Possibly.

But then we learn that the FBI did indeed interview Tamerlan nearly two years ago. From AP:

A foreign government told the FBI in early 2011 about information that Tamerlan Tsarnaev (tsahr-NEYE'-ehv), one of the brothers suspected in the Boston Marathon bombings, was a follower of radical Islam.

 

Tamerlan Tsarnaev died in a shootout, and his younger brother was captured alive. They were identified by authorities and relatives as ethnic Chechens from southern Russia who had been in the U.S. for about a decade.

 

According to FBI, the foreign government said that based on its information, Tamerlan Tsarnaev was a strong believer and that he had changed drastically since 2010 as he prepared to leave the U.S. for travel to the country's region to join unspecified underground groups.

 

The FBI says it interviewed Tsarnaev and relatives, and did not find any domestic or foreign terrorism activity.

It did? Because suddenly questions emerge:

  • What did the FBI inquiry involve?
  • What unspecified "underground groups"?
  • Have the same "underground groups" recruited more young people from Boston or neighboring cities?
  • Who made the decision to absolve Tamerlan of any suspicion?
  • Which "foreign government" demanded that the US FBI get involved in the life of a then 24 year old boy and under what pretext?
  • Also, and unrelated, why were both parents abroad?

Dead men tell not tales, and Tamerlan is now permanently muted, so it is the FBI's word, as secret as it may, be against that of a dead man.

As for his brother: one wonders how quickly will he recuperate, or will his serious (or critical as was reported by Bloomberg) condition in hosptial suddenly deteriorate to a condition of just as terminal silence, thus tying up all the loose ends?

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Update: From the AP, we learn that the according to the official narrative, the Russian KGB successor, the FSB, was the entity that advised the FBI that Tamerlan was a "radical Islam follower."

The Russian FSB intelligence security service told the FBI in early 2011 about information that Tamerlan Tsarnaev, one of the brothers suspected in the Boston Marathon bombings, was a follower of radical Islam, two law enforcement officials said Saturday.

 

According to an FBI news release issued Friday night, a foreign government said that based on its information, Tsarnaev was a strong believer and that he had changed drastically since 2010 as he prepared to leave the U.S. for travel to the Russian region to join unspecified underground groups.

 

The FBI did not name the foreign government, but the two law enforcement officials identified the FSB as the provider of the information to one of the FBI’s field offices and also to FBI headquarters in Washington. The two officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on the record about the matter.

One by one all the dominoes fall into place.

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CMURRAYR's picture

"You never need formal conspiracies when interests converge"

Learn that!

Temporalist's picture

First you have to answer one question: if there are known conspiracies that are discovered, such as LIBOR, ENRON, Madoff, even after they're brought to the attention of "authorities", do you not understand that there are others that are unknown?

Confused's picture

This is what blows my mind. Even after people learned about LIBOR, they still have a hard time believing that "conspiracies" are a possibility. 

YC2's picture

Skepticism is good, and hopefully he gets a fair trial that exposes all facts. However, the existance if one conspiracy does not make any other that one can come up with relevant

Skateboarder's picture

Welcome to Apathetics Anonymous. Membership: 7 billion.

FiatFapper's picture

Manhattan project!

It's called black-box engineering, the grunts only need to know that a rivet A goes into panel B and not question the sum of its parts.

booboo's picture

Winner, winner chicken dinner, same with the Norden Bomb Sight, compartmentaltization.

"I just made a phone call

"I just mailed some ticket"

"I just delivered a big box to a gym"

"I just asked the important people to stand over here"

"I was told never to ask"

"I was told I was working for the government"

"the guy just told me to set the back pack here and someone else was to pick it up"

"We are at war with al ciada"

"We must support the freedom fighters in Syria with manpads, mortars and heavy automatic weapons fighting against government tyranny"

"we must disarm the citizens of their small arms who are complaining about government tyranny"

 

Omen IV's picture

really???    how about the banks?  that has now been confirmed by holder that their criminal acts will go unpunished and they will be supported in court by judges covering for their fraud for those who bought fraudulent CDO's

AetosAeros's picture

Let's see, Large Conspiracies Known by Groups of 1000 or More, Alex for $10,000

It looks like you got the Daily Double!-

These 10 Conspiracies are well known throughout America, while at the time, if you knew and were not authorized to know by TPTB, you could have been a) run out of town on a rail, b) put into an asylum, fed drugs, and kept until crazy or deceased, c) terminated.

 

What are:

MK Ultra

Manhanttan Project

Operation Mockingbird

Tuskugee Syphillis Study

Cointelpro

Iran-Contra Affair

Gulf Of Tonkin

Operation Gladio

Oak Ridge Tennessee

Iraq WMD

 

Outstanding, and for your correct answers, you will get a double-wide berth at FEMA Camp Sector 2, Agricultural Production Facility- 'Brussel Sprouts To Tout', instead of DHS Lead Aquisition tester, which has yet to be filled with the 1.6B Patriot Day Volunteers. Congratulations.

 

/Wish it was Sarc.

AetosAeros's picture

Really wanted to, but then you know the whole 'Zionasty Zippit' squads would have showed up to derail the chance that someone who didn't know some of the above would actually take the time to look and see that each of these are real world, really accepted, and really proven subjects that our 'Governement' denied until they couldn't anymore.

 

But thanks for adding it.

Randall Cabot's picture

"These kinds of conspiracy "theories" that I am sure you would say are just speculative possibilities, would require a level of cooperation and silence among disparate parties that has never occured in the history of mankind."

 

How about the assassination of President Kennedy?

A SMALL CIRCLE OF CONSPIRATORS

The close connections between a relatively small circle of people and those in their immediate spheres of influence is no coincidence. That all of them, in some fashion, were part of the circumstances surrounding the assassination of John F. Kennedy is also no coincidence. Critics of JFK assassination conspiracy theories contend that a conspiracy so immense would require a vast number of people involved. In fact, the mechanics of initiating the conspiracy described in Final Judgment involved perhaps no more than 20 people. Most of those ultimately involved in the conspiracy were probably not even aware of the activities of the others who were involved.

So then, let us name, for the record, those whom we believe had advance knowledge that John F. Kennedy was going to be killed on November 22, 1963. They are:

Israeli Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion;

Israeli Mossad assassinations chief Yitzhak Shamir;

Permindex chief executive officer Louis M. Bloomfield;

Mossad officer and Permindex banker Rabbi Tibor Rosenbaum;

CIA Counterintelligence chief James J. Angleton;

French intelligence officer Georges deLannurien;

Crime Syndicate boss Meyer Lansky

Read the entire book Final Judgment here:

 

 

 

 

http://www.scribd.com/doc/8298527/Final-Judgment-Mossad-and-the-JFK-Assasination    

Zer0head's picture

@unclePenv you mean like that $50b 20 year "one" man show called Madoff?  Or perhaps you are speaking of the  Drone wars conspiracy http://www.politico.com/story/2013/02/gibbs-i-was-told-dont-admit-drones...

Jake88's picture

That is what anti conspiracy types who fear the truth always say as they dismiss out of hand all the evidence and all the people who DID come forward and break the "silence". That is what they say to this day about the Kennedy assassination. It doesn't even matter in their minds how many people break the silence, their fear keeps them in disbelief.

Two Feet Studs Up's picture

I suppose you've never heard of the term compartmentalization.

Urban Redneck's picture

How about Oklahoma City?    

 

1) same level of cooperation 

2) same cast of fucked up federal alphabet suit agencies (and a heavy dose of implicated Clinton lapdogs making encore appearances) 

3) much smaller scale

4) simpler to execute

5) the calendar recycling is just to much fun to pass up...

(depending on exactly which version of current events suits your proclivities)  

and I'm normally first or early in line to piss in the tin-foil punchbowl around here...

chubbar's picture

Bullshit. The Manhatten project at one time had over 120,000 people working on it yet remained secret for years.

de3de8's picture

Just like all the rest.

JustObserving's picture

This affair is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.  We will never know the truth just like JFK, RFK, and 9/11.  At least we have fair and free markets in gold and silver. Forward.

wee-weed up's picture

Hey, Cuomo says the Boston Marathon bombings were caused by global warming.

WTF?

YHC-FTSE's picture

Reckon the "underground group" was the tactical training ground at Langley. 

forexskin's picture

Lots of possibilities - but the real problem is that the MSM never pursues free inquiry any more. They parrot the administration party line - true or false - and then wonder why "conspiracy theories" pop up like mushrooms on a wet spring day.

For an empire of lies, free inquiry becomes a criminal act, and "truth" is no longer based on principle, but on the needs of the power hungry monsters whose only ethical metric is "does this serve me?"

Why would anyone be surprised the country's arc in history is aimed at civil war... God help us.

walküre's picture

the MSM never pursues free inquiry any more

this would imply that the corporate MSM as you know it has EVER pursued the investigation of "facts" and the reporting of "truth"

they should stick to telling people that it will either rain or shine in the next couple days ...

forexskin's picture

what you say is true back to the time when the money center banks began buying editorial control around the turn of the last century. jp morgan saw to it that his war investments and the 'money trust' reforms went his way.

been all downhill since then.

Cheeseus Sonofdog's picture

.

 

To add to the conspiracy, I saw an interview with one of Dzhokhar's friends and she said that she and Dzhokhar were both volunteers or participants for "Model United Nations". Wiki says this is like a mini Untied Nations that Highschool kids across the nation participate in. It is also interesting how the first bomb was placed in front of a row of international flags flying(just like they have in front of the UN headquarters).

 

Wikipedia says: Model Untited Nations is an academic simulation of the United Nations that aims to educate participants about current events, topics in international relations, diplomacy and the United Nations agenda.... The participants role-play as diplomats representing a country or NGO in a simulated session of a committee of the United Nations, such as the Security Council or the General Assembly. Participants research a country, take on roles as diplomats, investigate international issues, debate, deliberate, consult, and then develop solutions to world problems. More recently, simulation of other deliberative bodies, such as the United Nations Security Council, has been included in Model United Nations, even if they are completely unrelated to the UN or international affairs as a whole. In general, the participants that the executive panel considers to be most contributing are given awards, such as 'Best Delegate award'.

dwayne elizando's picture

What do they do at wealthy private schools? Model IMF? Model BIS? Model CFR? Model Bilderberg?

willwork4food's picture

I still have not seen any videos proving the brothers planted the bombs...does photoshop take that much time?

reader2010's picture

i heard special effex workers were on strike over the pay in hollywood.

alien-IQ's picture

It really depends on the post production backlog at Lucas Film.

Confused's picture

Disney owns them. So it probably has to pass some sort of "quality" check. 

you know. For the kids and all. 

McMolotov's picture

According to media reports at the time, one of them "was seen" placing a backpack at the site of one of the explosions.

From Fox News: "The second suspect was seen [my emphasis] dropping a backpack as both walked single file on Boylston Street, where both of the bombs exploded, DesLauriers said."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/19/fbi-releases-photos-boston-marathon...

That's from the FBI itself. Seen how? I'd like more proof than a video showing two brothers walking together and wearing backpacks like thousands of other people that day.

reader2010's picture

they used to say 'there's nothin' new under da sun.'

vainamoinen's picture

Reminds me of "The Christmas Tree" bomber in Portland OR a couple of years ago.

Whatever happened to him?

He too had contact with US "agencies" before he went down.

Funny how these things work. ain't it?

FiatFapper's picture

"He too had contact" - that's an understatement! He was groomed for ages and they paid for hotels et al. Just a disillusioned young man who wrote the wrong thing on a wrong forum and set a red-flag, they then had their mailable mind to coerce to justify their existence and budget once they got him to push the pretend button.

noless's picture

they're still trying to determine if he's competant to stand trial i think.. was in the papers a month or so back.

Itch's picture

MI5 and MI6 interviewed half the population of Belfast, does this mean they were running everyone that they talked to, or that they planned every attack? If you are fond of filling in big gaps of reality with the first thing that enters your mind, then the answer would probably be yes.

forexskin's picture

nothing to see here - move along.

leave your mind at the door.

ignore those gaps and the man behind the curtain.

don't bother with any questions - you're just marking yourself as a malcontent.

our leaders would never let their power lead them astray.

etc.

if you can't draw the line yourself, it doesn't mean you haven't drawn one, perhaps it means you're afraid to -

CHALLENGE the AUTHORITY of CRIMINALS

or something....

Itch's picture

 

I find what helps, if usually you cant reasonably prove anything, is best to wait until such times until you can, before you open your mouth, regardless of how you feel; thats just a basic principle to live your life by(and a stable of all good detective stories), it will save you a lot of time, stress and energy. It will not only keep you out of the clutches of the many bullshitters roaming the earth, but keep you safe from your worst enemy, aka your imagination...unless you enjoy making things up that is. Its not what conclusions you come to, but how you arrive at them that counts. When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. That statement implies you are justified in your convictions only when you have eliminated the impossible. But these days that saying can rewritten as "Eliminate the probable as a matter of principle, whatever remains fuck it too, pass and go straight to the governments intention to kill us all"

There is more room than ever for fear to fester, there are many people pushing it, making money (a lot) from it, revelling in it like the despicable charlatans that they are. Pushing these theories becomes a catalyst for their own imaginary intellectual authority, they feel a sense of control and can bolster their fragile egos talking big about their elite secret inside knowledge of intelligence services, government intentions, plots and cabals etc; everyone is is in the dark, sheep, lemmings incapable of critical thinking and doomed by their ignorance, this is the all powerful hierarchical narrative of their inner dialogue, deduction becomes a hindsight because everything has been deduced in instinct...but they greatly underestimate the autonomy and intelligence of their fellow humans, while vastly overestimating their own, and in doing so their silly paranoid narrative becomes their only source of truth, then its lights-out for good, and it becomes a living nightmare. Its a sickness. There is real danger in it. Its pretty evil stuff. The men doing it are destroying people, they don’t do it to save people, they do it for themselves because they are shallow, empty, self-serving and lost.

The truth always comes out in the end remember. I'll leave you with a fascinating piece of 2000 year old scripture on the matter; Peter 20:10 King James Bible.

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make a merchandise of you.

The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and those that despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.

But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;  beguiling unstable souls: at heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed childrenwhich have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray.

For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure only through their lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, for those that were clean but escaped from them. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption.

 

 

Have a nice day.

Nid's picture

Obama and his media lapdogs already doing everything they can to set the narrative and define the Bombings as a Home Grown criminal incident. 

Clycntct's picture

There you go. No need for dhs.

UE the next ride for the less than able.

A Lunatic's picture

It should make for a good test run for the prosecution of a real live Domestic Terrorist. Gotta start somewhere........

Bob's picture

Who could stoop so low as to accuse our FBI of such a thing?!

They've been working night and day on leads in their investigations of Wall Street. 

I trust my FBI like . . . words fail me, but I hope you get the idea, Mueller. 

tip e. canoe's picture

lastest Jon Rappoport on the FBI

Actually, the forensic lab at the FBI has been under continuous fire since the 1990s.

Whitehurst went a lot further than blowing the cover on the FBI op in the OKC bombing case. He pointed to chronic lab problems resulting in the questionable convictions of up to 10,000 federal defendants, many of whom remain in prison to this day and have not obtained justice.

In 2012, Whitehurst redoubled his attacks, stating, “While I was reporting issues at the FBI crime lab, FBI Director Louis Freeh was doing everything he could to shut me down…”

http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/boston-locking-down-the-city-where-the-american-revolution-was-born/

ol' J.Edgar is smirking through his lipstick today.

Bob's picture

Makes me wonder if he and Honey Pie Mueller were butt buddies.

At least they agreed there is no such thing as organized crime.