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Obama To Sell $10 Billion In Weapons To Israel, Saudi Arabia And The UAE
Having been denied the ability to control guns by the democratically-controlled Senate last Wednesday in the biggest slap to the administration's face in a long time, Obama decided promptly to put as many guns as he possibly can in the hands of US soldiers and various non-Americans. First, it was the announcement that Obama would send more troops to Jordan to prepare for "stability operations" which is a euphemism for Syrian rebel support (much of it controlled by the otherwise dreaded Al Qaeda), and now we learn that Obama is set to announce the sale of $10 billion worth of weapons to Israel, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. It appears that Obama, like a true expert of Sun Tzu, is well aware that the only way forward to a Nobel prize winning global peace, is under the barrel of a gun, or on the receiving end of a hot AGM-65 Maverick missile.
Bloomberg reports that the arms sold to Israel also will include an unspecified number of V-22 Osprey tilt-rotor transport aircraft, air defense radar and KC-135 refueling tankers; the U.A.E. will probably buy 26 F-16 jet fighters, and the Persian Gulf nation as well as Saudi Arabia will each buy precision missiles, said the official who provided details on condition of not being named before the deal is announced.
More:
The missiles being discussed include an unspecified number of the U.S. Advanced Anti-Radiation Guided Missile, a new weapon being bought by the U.S. Navy, the official said. The missile, made by Alliant Techsystems Inc. (ATK), is capable of attacking ground radar used by countries fielding sophisticated integrated air defenses, such as Syria and Iran.
If the transaction goes through, it will be the first foreign sale of the V-22 tilt-rotor made by Boeing Co. (BA) and Textron Inc. (TXT)’s Bell Helicopter unit. The U.A.E. already ordered 80 F-16s made by Lockheed Martin Corp. (LMT) in the late 1990s, and Saudi Arabia operates a fleet of Boeing-made F-15 jets.
The move to beef up the capabilities of allies in the Middle East began with President Barack Obama asking then- Defense Secretary Leon Panetta to examine ways to boost Israel’s military edge in light of potential threats in the region, three U.S. defense officials told reporters today at a briefing. The U.S. suspects Iran of developing nuclear weapons and is concerned the Syrian regime led by Bashar al-Assad may use chemical weapons.
Following Obama’s direction, Panetta held a series of meetings with then-Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak on weapons the country would need, the three officials said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss negotiations between countries. Bilateral discussions with Saudi Arabia and the U.A.E. were held over the last nine months, according to the officials.
Plans for the arms package to Middle East allies comes as Hagel prepares his first trip to the region since taking his Cabinet post in February. The weapons sales will be a centerpiece of the visit, the U.S. official said.
Why the need to escalate the already heavily-armed Middle East and to paint America once more as the global supplier of precision-guided death to any corner in the world? Why the "immediate danger" that is Iran and Syria of course.
At a broader level, Hagel’s visit to Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and the U.A.E. will probably focus on regional threats from Iran and Syria, said Aaron David Miller, a Middle East specialist at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington.
In Israel, Hagel “has to make clear on the psychological and emotional side that he gets it that they’re in a very dangerous and uncertain neighborhood,” Miller said in a telephone interview before details of the arms sales were known.
To that end, the announcement of an additional arms deal with Israel will probably be a highlight of Hagel’s meetings with his counterpart Moshe Ya’alon, as well as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
For Israel having the most modern military in the middle East is not enough. It needs to modernize it once more, courtesy of the US.
The deal also underscores Obama’s comments last month in Israel that the Jewish state must have the capacity to defend itself against potential threats from Iran and from Syria.
The Obama administration also has funded Israel’s Iron Dome system, designed to shoot down short-range rockets. In its 2014 budget request the Pentagon sought $220 million to buy additional batteries of the missile defense system for Israel. If approved by Congress, that spending will be on top of the $486 million the U.S. has added for the system in recent years.
And, as the movie The International laid out all too clearly, if Israel can't fund the billions it needs to purchase more "deterrent" armaments, then HSBC (or Goldman, or JPM, or [insert bank name here]) will be delighted to provide any and all loans the country may need.
Which is not to say that Russia will be far behind providing Syria and Iran with all the MiG and AK-47s they may need in this time of crisis.... with loans provided once more by HSBC (or Goldman, or JPM, or [insert bank name here]) of course.
Rinse. Repeat.
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Forward! Peace for one and all!
That's an awful lot of dollars/EPS towards another consecutive "Gun Salesman of the Year" award...
gotta keep the zionist masters armed to the teeth... as well as the sunni-muslim (zoinist) puppet dictator vassals... you know, to keep the world peaceful.
And if ever one american is killed by one of these weapons of war sold by .gov, those responsible for the sale should be hung by the neck...
That is after a speedy trial for treason.
The road to Hell-sinki is paved by morons espousing good intentions.
-me
Sell weapons to both sides. Cover your bases in a thorough manner. Peace Prize winner extrodianaire.
Good. Hopefully those religious childhood brainwashing victims will mutually destroy each other. That'll improve the world tremendously.
Obama made his sales quota this year.
Isn't his commission 10%?
he has to share the commission with thousands of other lobbysts
but if he was smart, he sold them defective weapons
During the war between Iraq and Iran, we supplied Iraq with all the stuff they needed ......meanwhile Israel supplied Iran with all the USA arms they needed
but not everything. Just enough to tilt the war. Israel was interested in making a large profit no matter what......
The moneychangers making the money on the dead and dying. You just got to love them.
Israel also sold weapons to Iran to get American hostages back. They were resupplied with better weapons at a discount as part of the deal.
The weapons trade is still one of the biggest industries worldwide. Nothing new. USA! USA! USA!
MIC ~ key ~ M.O.U.S.E. ~ Jew led industry [collecting bonuses] selling to... drumroll... Jews... Funded by [jew bankers], Ignored by [jew controlled MSM]...
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Quel Suprise!
I'm so happy the 'soccer moms' feel safe...
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Edit:^^^^^Comment junked by... drumroll... JEWS... ZOMG!... You fucks are pathetic...
look what we have here; an overly sensitive anti-semite.
LMAO
It is interesting that there are many tens / hundreds of Dictionary entries describing "Anti-Semite" and "Anti-Semitism"; I have yet to find a SINGLE entry describing "Anti-Goyim" or "Anti-Goyimism". Seems such concepts do not exist.
So, NO-ONE may criticise Israel, no matter what they do. Israel, however, seems to have "Special Dispensation" to slander and criticise everyone else, whilst conveniently hiding behind the "Remember the "Holocaust" " banner.
Seeing as you (and many others) seem to be "experts" where Anti-Semitism is concerned, your comments, please.
You'll never see the term anti-goyim, it's been recast into pro-Israel.
And how do you know he's not semite, asshole? Far better chances non-jews being semites than jews, and there's no bigger anti-semites than jews themselves, just so that you know.
Good Ol Francis Sawyer...... Always ready to carve into anything mentioning "Jews" or Israel.
Surprised it took you so long to get a comment up, Frankie.
World of difference here.
The Arabs will pay for their weapons. The Jews' loans will be forgiven and forgotten. It's been going on for decades, and is by far the largest foreign aid transfer on the planet.
The US Taxpayer will foot the bill either way, at least Arabs throw in some gas with the deal.
Nobody buys American without dealer financing anymore.
All wars are Bankster Wars.
All Wars are Gangster Bankster Wars.
All Wars are evil Gangster Bankster Wars.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfEBupAeo4
We need to get rid of evil.
But first we need to isolate it.
I suggest Zero Hedge start a global anti-Nobel award nomination and award campaign that would allow common folk to vote for their favorite asshole.
We could call it the Caligula awards...
Why be different? We already have the IgNobel annual awards, so may I humbly propose -
(drum roll)
The Sveriges RisBank IgNobel Award for Global Financial Incompetence
If successful, we could even have a series of Awards, reflecting exceptional performance in certain key areas. Suggestions include:
1. The US Presidential Award (for best looking after the interests of Presidential Lobbyists),
2. The Corzine Award (for the most effective mismanagement of entrusted, presumed "safe" funds),
3. The (Mis-) Service to the Community Award ( for the ex. Politicians / Staffers who have managed to make the most profitable "transition" via the revolving door mechanism)
All additional suggestions will be gratefully received!!
how about the titanic award...yanno the politician screaming "get those women and kids out of my lifeboat!" award
Fitting..yes, I like it. But I might suggest something more subtle... like the White Star Awards.
Lebon awards
but this way Lockheed, et all get serious corporate welfare with the strings attached on the aid.. around 75% of the military spending from that aid has to go to USA arm dealers from last I heard
Israel used to get the free shit and then double dip by selling some to China for them to try to copy.. until around 2000.. now they probably just do it without telling anyone or go through France, or whereever
Whatever dude... If they wanted they could get the stuff from Russia with love... and even cheaper on top of that...
Your fake hate stinks, gtfo...
fake hate? lost me... why buy from Russia when the American taxpayer simply gifts it to is-ra-el?
Fuck The Zoinist and Fuck Isreal!!!!
Dude, fret not, change your name to Abraham, Mordecai Judaberg, or something that reeks of jooiness and you'll make a stack of digits. The name-change trick works both ways. You might even get an attack helicopter or somefing ;)
This site is ripe with Nazism. Ya, ya, all about Israel, not the Jews. Hate is hate, ignorance is ignorance. Yours and others comments are what is wrong with the world, not Israel.
considering the US taxpayors fund Israel with about 4 billion a yr, their real cost of 5 billion in Military equipment is 1 billion or the equivalent of Macy's huge one day sale, everything off 75%.
first send them more financial aid so thay can afford to make these purchases
Israeli Central Bank can buy lot's of munitions with their profits made from buying Apple stock...oh wait.
SafelyGraze noted:
A very tiny sliver of the 'foreign aid' provided by the US government, barely enough to qualify as a token amount, goes to things like food, shelter, and medical supplies for starving children, disaster victims, and refugees. Almost all of it is in the form of vouchers valid for purchases from US-based armament manufacturers and offense contractors.
It's just another laundered path which money follows on its way to the US Military-Industrial-Welfare-Queen complex.
I hope he did a background check on these guys first. ...wouldn't want that stuff getting into the wrong hands.
Maybe DHS can open up retail locations in empty malls and sell us some .223 rounds at a decent price.
This is list (Israel) for an attack on Iran. The refuelers (there jets can't get their unless they stop to refuel or air refuel), The ospry's (possibly to land troops to attack critical areas in Iran. And the Anti Radiation missiles to take out the sophisticated radar systems of Iran. This is a list to attack Iran pure and simple.
Land troops in Iran and they're going to get hit with precision artillery bombardments (that's right, Iran also has precision-guided artillery shells) plus hit by anti-personnel variants of the same mobile missiles that took out Israeli Merkava, in 2006. SP artillery has the precision and targeting flexibility to reliably hit the deck of a moving ship using a single round, fired from well over 30 kms away, and can repeat that several times per minute, per gun.
And that's not even mentioning their rocket artillery, nor their antiship IRBM, nor their multitude of sea-skimming systems.
Put a fleet unit, or hostile hovercraft over the gulf, or troops ashore, or helicopters into LZs, and they'll all get chewed-up faster than they can be either replaced, resupplied, or extract. They would be captured, or slaughtered.
And before anyone says airpower will "take them out", this is not 1990, or 2001. The lessons have been learned, And just remember that then state-of-the-art USAF F-15E could not even find Scuds on conspicuous huge TEL vehicles within the flat open western desert of Iraq during GW1. The Iraqis were regularly firing brilliantly illuminated giant missiles from point locations on the ground into the night sky actively patrolled by dozens of Allied aircraft and still the US didn't locate or nail one of them.
But Iran is en-echelon mountain ranges, one of the most mountainous countries on earth in fact, numerous water courses, endless valleys with fields, probably millions of caves, and almost everywhere within reach of where ever you land troops or armor. It would quickly become a wholesale turkey-shoot, whether the Israelis or the US tried to do it, and a failure to dominate Iran would basically break the back of US regional domination thereafter, in much the same way Israel knows it will get creamed if they try to invade Lebanon. Their power and influence was curtailed. Hence the Syrian uprising. On Aug 15th 2006, the day after the Lebanon 33 day war, Assad said this:
http://www.presidentassad.net/SPEECHES/ASSAD_JOURNALISTS_UNION_SPEECH.htm
This what is really going on since that speech, and that is what these weapon sales are all about, try to eliminate the Arab resistance, and buy off Arab state supplicants with weapons, thus creating reliance and dependence for cooperation with the US in order to obtain on-going parts, updates and ammunition for these weapons.
But times Lebanon by 50, and then square it, and that's about the size of the military challenge Iran would present to Israel. No one is going to move on Iran any time soon to invade it. The threat is in the other direction. Namely, what would be the strategic result of Iran getting totally fed-up with the situation and deciding to take pre-emptive action to change the entire regional dynamic?
Because regionally we could expect to see a spectacle not unlike Pearl Harbor meets Saigon April 1975, as the US scrambles to get hundreds of dead and thousands of injured, and what remains of its fleet, the hell out of the way of a sustained precision-guided missile barrage, that would quickly flatten the key economic infrastructure of several gulf states, and sink anything and everything floating within Persian Gulf waters.
If they did do this the West would be forced to negotiate a withdrawal of their forces simply to get the gulf opened. And looking at the arsenal of Iran, that is clearly the capability they've been building for the past 30 years, because that's what they've envisaged having to do one day, to get the old 'Great Satan' out.
And Western people can rant about the red-herring of Islamist dogma, and totally misunderstand this as much as they want, but that will change and address nothing. Iran wants the US out of the region and so do many other states (the ones that don't get many US arms but do get a lot of their bombs).
Take note; North Vietnam demanded full reunification with South Vietnam after the French were finally kicked out of North Vietnam, and to thus get rid of any hint of western European colonial puppet Govts. So they invaded the South, and they won just such a regional battle, which changed the entire regional strategic dynamics (just as Iran now needs to do so it can finally get rid of the US).
China and Russia also wanted most of what North Vietnam wanted, or at least were willing to strongly support them against the west.
And earlier North Korea wanted to re-unite with South Korea, to get rid of any hint of a pro-western colonial puppet Govt, and in June 1950 they invaded the South to obtain that. But the US insisted on remaining there and frustrating the divisions that should have ended with WWII. But no one just gives you things like independence and sovereignty (certainly the UN didn't want it to happen!).
But China and Russia definitely wanted what the DPRK wanted, at that time, and got basically directly involved in the fight.
But the DPRK of today has never given up its PRIMARY goal, to reunify with the South, to get rid of any pro-Western 'traitor' govt lingering there that has usurped a wider unified Korean Sovereignty. THIS IS THE GOAL THE DPRK SOLDIERS DIED FOR, AND WHAT THEY REMAIN TO THIS DAY DEDICATED TO BRINGING ABOUT. We merely presume they will fail, or rather that they gave up, but they have not. They have no intention of failing, or giving up! Twenty years ago I also thought they might give it all up, but now I realize they'll never give it up, nor even consider surrendering the rest of Korean sovereignty to a foreign domination. Ignore that dynamic, and discount it, or dismiss it as an impossible fantasy and you'll totally fail to understand the situation, then, and now, and why they're still acting the way they do. This is not over. Their disposal of the ceasefire is the signal of this. This is how they see this playing-out, and how the Korean War finally can 'end' within their minds. There's no possibility of them giving up on the ending of foreign domination of Korea.
This is why China does not press what leverage Washington imagines it has over the DPRK. Washington does not understand that threats, or wasting of leverage are all pointless, over issues that to the DPRK are non-negotiable items.
The DPRK is absolutely determined - still - to reunite with the South and to do it on their own terms, and via massive force, if it's necessary. Does the West, or Japan, or Russian, or even China fully grasp that this is the bottom-line that the DPRK military estate will never compromise, no matter how long it takes to get there?
And that is the reality the US, and Japan, and the western world, and the UN body fails to face up to. This has not gone away simply because it has not been resolved yet in a way that will be acceptable. That is why they starve and still resist, that is why they've built nukes. They know they will have to fight for it again. Not reuniting under solely Korean control is not an option. And North Vietnam showed them what you have to do to win, how high that price is to force the US and everyone else off the Peninsula.
Thus we now have both Iran and the DPRK working together, both with a fierce military capability, and both verging towards lashing out, to finally get rid of regional western influence and domination, and all hostile puppet Govts within their region (regime change is a double-edged sword).
So we're walking a very thin line here, and if these two act in concert and sustain it, and absorb and ride-out everything we throw at them, and they keep coming back at us, they will indeed 'win' - just at an extremely high price. One we will not be prepared to pay-in-kind. But like North Vietnam, these states both show all the signs and intent of doing this and they're ready right now to do so. They can kick it off any time they want from here, they are in that window-of-opportunity. And if, or rather when they win such a sustained battle, regional frameworks will be very much re-ordered, and along different strategic lines.
So any Western or Israeli talk of attacking either of those countries is very, very unwise, at this point. Iranian media comments these days are positively bristling with warnings of what's coming. And we keep dreamily thinking that soon they'll give up and make their peace with us, on our terms.
That is never going to happen.
http://theiranproject.com/blog/2013/04/13/iran-represents-a-deathblow-to...
http://theiranproject.com/blog/2013/04/20/us-bullying-stance-on-n-korea-...
Great piece of writing + 100%
10 billion = 1 f16 and 3 gold toilette seats
The US is the biggest arms dealer in the world.
Wether it be legitimate sales or not.
In 2011, USA accounted for 77.7% of world arms sales while Russia, the closest competitor, accounted for 5.6%. All hail the Nobel Peace Prize winner - Forward into death and destruction:
“In 2011, the US led in arms transfer agreements worldwide, making agreements valued at $66.3 billion (77.7 percent of all such agreements), an extraordinary increase from $21.4 billion in 2010. The US worldwide agreements total in 2011 is the largest for a single year in the history of the US arms export program,” according to the report prepared for Congress.
In an earlier period, Washington justified such weapons deals as part of its Cold War strategy of countering the influence of the Soviet Union and propping up regimes aligned with the West against Moscow and its allies. This was under conditions where Soviet arms sales to the so-called Third World rivaled and even surpassed those of the United States.
Today, however, as the CRS report makes clear, the US accounts for more than three quarters of global arms deals, with the share of its closest competitor, Russia, amounting to just 5.6 percent.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2012/08/pers-a30.html
While I understand the humour in sending ZH people to the World Socialist Workers Organisation (either to troll them, heighten the irony or whatever), you can link direct to the paper [warning: PDF].
If you want a handy bookmark here is the list of the reports they have, including more specific papers.
For instance:
Japan’s fighter force includes, among other aircraft, about 200 F-15s and about 90 aging F-4s. To replace the F-4s, Japan reportedly wanted to purchase 40 to 50 new fighters. The effort to procure the replacement fighters is called the FX program. (A projected subsequent effort to replace the F-15s is known as the FXX program.) Secretary of Defense Robert Gates reportedly recommended the F-35 Lightning II over the F-22 and other candidates in a meeting with Japan’s defense minister on May 1, 2009, but Japan reportedly still preferred to purchase the F-22. In December, 2011, Japan chose the F-35. Congress was notified of the proposed sale in May 2012. However, former Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne “said by email that Japan and Australia would ‘immediately partner’ to restart the line if Congress lifted the F-22 export ban.
p22 Airforce F-22 Fighter Program
As an aside, I've been reading the CRS for years (which is probably more than most Congressmen do, but hey); I've no idea why people bother with Alex Jones etc, the actual papers are far more informative... and salacious, if you can read between the lines.
“said by email that Japan and Australia would ‘immediately partner’ to restart the line if Congress lifted the F-22 export ban."
This is not true. RAAF have made it clear on multiple occasions, and in a thorough Parliamentary inquiry that they do not want the F-22A, as they do not believe it is the correct aircraft for such a small force-mix, and would present a lop-sided capability that would detract from the regional strike capabilities and detract from other roles, sustainment and availability. The other major objections were cost, which was entirely prohibitive, and the congressional ban on exports. They were also very explicit and detailed about its numerous operational limitations, and the secondary limitations it would induce in RAAF capabilities, in comparison to the then preferred F-35A option. They have since invested heavily in a pseudo-interim superhornet replacement for F-111, and now for time-expiring MLUed classic Hornets. The current thinking is to retain the Superhornets past 2022, and acquire 3 squadrons, or 72 x F-35A (rather than ~96), as that mix of aircraft will have long-term broad operational compatibility and technology leverage, due to USN operating both out to at least 2030 (and with a lot more developmental upgrades still to come for superhornets). I have no doubt the prior analysis remains broadly valid and RAAF would not be interested in buying F-22s. They are instead looking more at development of Superhornet capabilities to enable the later purchase of later-block F-35As that will have a more developed capability. But given the insecurity developing in the program they have been looking at fall-back proposals again.
The insurmountable problem for the F-22A, at this point, and even five years ago, is that it's actually a far less developed aircraft, for RAAF strike needs than the current block F-35A is (RAAF Air Marshall's words, not mine). It was argued that it would cost far more to bring the F-22 up to the strike capability required by the RAAF, and would take so long to do, and involve so much technical risk, that without direct USAF involvement in such an accelerated development of the F-22, the RAAF would not even be interested in going in that direction. Five years on this is an even larger insurmountable hurdle to F-22 acquisition.
Nothing new here, it's called IDEX (international defense exhibition) and is hosted in Abu Dhabi, UAE very year.
Corporate Welfare.
Does this help Boeing, since they slipped on their commercial aircraft orders?
Cool for DoD. They need to cut $85 billion for the sequester nonsense. Now they are down to $75 billion and maybe won't have to furlough that GS-7 admin clerk. (sarc)
It's what we do.
USA=Lord of War
This fire isn't burning hot enough..... throw some more gasoline on it.
Seems Liquid Oxygen might give better results - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sab2Ltm1WcM
"Hard frozen to cremated in well under 10 seconds!"
He is a real POS
Why doesn't he sell them 10,000 pressure cookers while he's at it. F**king tool!
I think for every $10 million spent they get a free pressure cooker or a toaster.
lol :-)
will the fed print the money for the purchases and hand the loss
to the treasury? also, al ciada will need more funding and weapons
too.
Don't worry, they will steal those weapons from unguarded USA arsenals near border, like they did last time *snicker snicker*
This is a pathetically clear cut case of the Terrorists leading the Terrorists.
Background checks waived:
http://www.freakingnews.com/Nancy-Pelosi-and-Barack-Obama-Pig-Butts-Pics...
WAR to Czech Republic !!!! NO kiddin I TELL YA CHECHNYA AND CZECH REPUBLIC IS THE SAME; tHATS what American people think; Christ sake go back to school
Back to Terrorists from Boston
Czech Republic Ambassador: Don’t Confuse Us With Chechnyahttp://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/04/czech-republic-ambassador-dont-confuse-us-with-chechnya/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/19/chechnya-czech-republic-twitter_n_3116773.html#slide=2358414
https://twitter.com/MrPooni/status/325226662692274177/photo/1
http://storify.com/suchosch/e-en-sko
For once the pressure is off Australia and Austria.
How many Americans think NM is part of Mexico --- not one of the 50 United States? A lot, which is a good thing for New Mexico. Helps limit the popuation of ignoramuses.
And how many Americans think that Alaska is just an oddly-shaped island off the coast of Washington --- if they even realize that it is part of the United States at all?
More than once, in the Lower 48, I have mailed flat-rate packages to Alaska, only to be told by the profoundly ignorant postal worker that I would have to pay a higher rate for shipping outside the United States --- who was then perplexed when their computer told them otherwise.
Hawaii, too. It really pisses Hawaiians off when tourists refer to the mainland as the 'real' U.S.
My mom was born and raised in Anchorage, and had to commute back and forth to Catholic boarding school to Seattle. (By boat.) Summers were spent in a gold mine where my grandfather worked a claim as much of the year would allow. She had all sorts of interesting tales.
Her classmates felt very sorry for her but I thought it sounded fantastic.
Yeah, Alaska is in the upper part of U S.
It constantly amazes me how the younger generation-and I'm talking late 20's early 30s don't know shit about geography, North and south, or their proximetry to a certain location because of the ease of smart phones maps or their car's Tom Tom.
All of them who hablar en Espanol.
re news printer
Americans also frequently confuse Costa Rica with Puerto Rico and Slovakia with Slovenia.
That's not half as offensive as when Americans confuse Cubans with Puerto Retardados...
Mexican countries all hate each other, but speak the same language.
As my son says: "They are all Mexicans, from the Tierra del Fuego to the Rio Grande." [Even those Portuguese Mexicans.] (Sarc)
I get along with my Portuguese Mexican wife just fine, the Argentinian ex, not so much, but I wouldn't recommend using "Portuguese Mexican" in a Brazilian restaurant- in groups they're nationalistic in a way that would frighten even Fuehrer Ferkel...
And unfortunately one of the serial junkers seems to be the loose this evening...
when U accuse don;t make any mistake
mistak'e
Richard Perle, Elliott Abrams, Kenneth Adelman, Michael Ladeen: these are part of the American Committee for Peace in Chechnya (ACPC). And with the events of Boston, the connection of American neocons to the Chechen insurrection against Russia now becomes a critical part of the equation.
Because Russia is a blocking force for what the Israeli-US Empire wants to accomplish in overtaking Syria and Iran.
Chechen Terrorists and the Neocons | Consortiumnews.com
April 19, 2013 (introduction only: for the rest of the story see link)
The revelation that the family of the two suspects in the Boston Marathon bombings was from Chechnya prompted new speculation about the attack as Islamic terrorism. Less discussed was the history of U.S. neocons supporting Chechen terrorists as a strategy to weaken Russia, as ex-FBI agent Coleen Rowley recalls.
By Coleen Rowley
I almost choked on my coffee listening to neoconservative Rudy Giuliani pompously claim on national TV that he was surprised about any Chechens being responsible for the Boston Marathon bombings because he’s never seen any indication that Chechen extremists harbored animosity toward the U.S.; Guiliani thought they were only focused on Russia.
Giuliani knows full well how the Chechen “terrorists” proved useful to the U.S. in keeping pressure on the Russians, much as the Afghan mujahedeen were used in the anti-Soviet war in Afghanistan from 1980 to 1989. In fact, many neocons signed up as Chechnya’s “friends,” including former CIA Director James Woolsey.
For instance, see this 2004 article in the UK Guardian, entitled, “The Chechens’ American friends: The Washington neocons’ commitment to the war on terror evaporates in Chechnya, whose cause they have made their own.”
Author John Laughland wrote: “the leading group which pleads the Chechen cause is the American Committee for Peace in Chechnya (ACPC). The list of the self-styled ‘distinguished Americans’ who are its members is a roll call of the most prominent neoconservatives who so enthusiastically support the ‘war on terror.’
“They include Richard Perle, the notorious Pentagon adviser; Elliott Abrams of Iran-Contra fame; Kenneth Adelman, the former US ambassador to the UN who egged on the invasion of Iraq by predicting it would be ‘a cakewalk’; Midge Decter, biographer of Donald Rumsfeld and a director of the rightwing Heritage Foundation [and wife of neocon founder Norman Podhoretz]; Frank Gaffney of the militarist Centre for Security Policy; Bruce Jackson, former US military intelligence officer and one-time vice-president of Lockheed Martin, now president of the US Committee on Nato; Michael Ledeen of the American Enterprise Institute, a former admirer of Italian fascism and now a leading proponent of regime change in Iran; and R. James Woolsey, the former CIA director who is one of the leading cheerleaders behind George Bush’s plans to re-model the Muslim world along pro-US lines.”
The ACPC later sanitized “Chechnya” to “Caucasus” so it’s rebranded itself as the “American Committee for Peace in the Caucasus.”
Of course, Giuliani also just happens to be one of several neocons and corrupt politicians who took hundreds of thousands of dollars from MEK sources when that Iranian group was listed by the U.S. State Department as a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO). The money paid for these American politicians to lobby (illegally under the Patriot Act) U.S. officials to get MEK off the FTO list.* …
http://consortiumnews.com/2013/04/19/chechen-terrorists-and-the-neocons/
The People's Mujahedin of Iran (MEK) is an opposition movement in exile that advocates the overthrow of the Islamic Republic of Iran; the Group accepted protection from the US military under the 4th Geneva Convention.
I think the Neocons love the Chech as much as W Bush loved the Kurds, (W pounded the bully pulpit about an incident where Iraq gassed Kurds, and he defended them and their quest for autonomy - which of course is exactly the opposite of what our ally Turkey wants - after the Iraq war W called them the enemy of the world, and stood aside while Turks and IRANIANS fought a border war against the Kurds. The Kurds have a lot of oil, hint hint wink wink.
What is more politically important is that the Kurds reject the Khazarian-Ashkenazi Kaliphate, which is the vehicle by which to re-subjugate the Middle East under one Khazarian-kontrolled Caliph...in much the same way that Europe is being brought under the Khazarian-kontrolled European Kommission...and the 50 States of the Union have been brought under the Khazarian-kontrolled Kapitol.
Here is an extract from a Kurdish view of Islam:
From: "A Muslim cannot be a Kurd; a Kurd cannot be a Muslim". Full text here:
http://www.ekurd.net/mismas/articles/misc2009/12/independentstate3386.htm
Idiots who think that "muzzies" want to take over "the world" don't understand how the Khazarians already control most regions through puppet "treaty organisations" and puppet governments (including all Sunni Islam countries). But the ancient tribes of the Middle East are more complex and more intractable and are, to a large extent, the last frontier of resistance to the globalists...hence the current globalist focus on bringing Iran and Syria into the [Muslim Brotherhood] fold.
After the whole Bin Laden cock-up(?), that Chechnya would also backfire on the US would only be fitting for its not jackass-ed, definitely not elephantine, but rhinoceros-like shortsighted, smell of short-term profit driven "diplomacy".
Even more reason to turn one...and his brother. The question of "who did the turning" still remains. Doesn't appear to be Mom or Dad or Uncle Oil Guy. I find it interesting that the Russians warned us as well. Kinda rules them out. CIA of course is everywhere and always suspect. The media...the you know who. Obviously though you have Iran and Syria...a regular who's who of The Usual Suspects. Not that the MSM is wondering of course. "last thing anyone wants here is for anyone to do something here."
WWIII
Side question/refer Boston:
Who is this naked guy they arrested? (4 minute youtube - skip ahead)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UISEHOb7sys
Can't find any other link to it, but I do recall it. Down the memory hole?
If not one of the brothers, then who is it?
Video got deleted 4 minutes after you posted it.
big brother wants to make sure that no one gets confused about what happened.
Yep, it's gone. Just trying to cross-check its validity. Thanks.
Hmmm....
if that video is anywhere it will show up on Tosh.0
annnnnd it's GONE!!!!
yep, is this it???
Boston Police Take Naked Man Into Custody
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9D8mz83ht8
Yeah!
The version I saw was a little better view but essentially the same.
If this is brother #1 then they got some 'splainin' to do.
When I google "naked man arrested Boston" I get nothing.
Comments on youtube are suggesting that this is the guy who was car-jacked and who looks like brother #1.
Weird.
We were also wondering what happened to him.
26 F16's makes a decent preliminary strike force from across the straits of Hormuz from UAE into Iran. We'll force those uncooperative Persians to take our fiatshitpapercoupons for their oil and they will like it.
I think his Nobel Peace Award is on eBay.
President of Peace.
The Prince of Peas
The Prince of Eat Your Peas.
Prince of Whirled Peas
Prince of Blackeyed Peas?
Prince of Black Hearted Thieves
asshole!
I didn't read it all that thoroughly. Did it say anywhere in the article if o-Bama was promising them enough tax dollars in aid to pay for it?
Probably he'll just leave it to the dual citizens in the senate and congress to hold that end up.
See how hard this shit is????
The Business of War: SOFEX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL_3Qg-SADY
I support military aid to Israel.
Why? What have we gotten from them? They usually just turn around and sell it to the Russian, Iranians, or someone else?
Most of the weaponry in the hands of terrorists in the ME is Russian, RPGs and Ak47s.
you mean in the pictures the media shows us?
3/4ths of the Bible.
Israel:
gives Arabs full rights of citizenship
Is a peaceful country
Is creative
Is a strategic ally of America
Puts on a great show at the UN
Gives medical care to injured Palestinians
Is brave and resourceful
Is a safe place for Jewish people
...
I'd prefer Israel continue to exist.
If God is with them, who can be against them?
Obama is the gayest and deadliest dictator who ever lived.
Sorry, Bush 2 got that award, with dead-eye Cheney the runner up. Obama is slightly behind Cheney..but then who's keeping track?
I have a feeling Cheney would be 'behind' Obama...
I have no doubt that Cheney was 'behind' Obama many times... If you catch my drift.
He will make the Saudis pay for the gifted portion to Israel.
So, are we trading the weapons for the crApple shares their central skank owns?
Fuckers.
$10 Billion more on ritual sacrifice.
Happy 4/20!
He's actually going to invoice the Israelis this time? I guess it makes a change from giving it away for free. Over a billion dollars since 2010 for Israel's Iron Dome alone, and who knows how much else in defence cooperation, US Aid (to all those poor, malnourished Israelis), and kickbacks on kickbacks. Makes me wonder just who runs things in Washington.
There are more Jews in the USA than in Israel so it is more like extending credit from the cities to the suburbs with Israel being the 'burbs. It is not really an export, more a re-assignment to another AFB. I doubt the US ever bothers to invoice Israel and simply books them out as demos.
Makes me (NOT) wonder just who runs things in Washington.
now Sen Boxer wants to set up a special asymettrical non visa program with Israel, we have to allow any Israeli in, but they can refuse any American of Muslim or Arab background. apparently appointing Chuck Hagel SecDef didn't throw that much cold water on US/Israeli relations. gosh Obama, fooled us again. You sly fox you.
wonder if the Israelis will pay one cent for their weapons?
The big money is in the after sales side. Servicing, parts and upgrades.
Sure they will. With the money we gave them to buy them
FORWARD, FASCIST!
I don't know if they were double agents but the background story on the associations on the groups most certainly can be confirmed or debunked
http://debka.com/article/22914/The-Tsarnaev-brothers-were-double-agents-...
The big questions buzzing over Boston Bombers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev have a single answer: It emerged in the 102 tense hours between the twin Boston Marathon bombings Monday, April 15 – which left three dead, 180 injured and a police officer killed at MIT - and Dzohkhar’s capture Friday, April 19 in Watertown.
The conclusion reached by debkafile’s counterterrorism and intelligence sources is that the brothers were double agents, hired by US and Saudi intelligence to penetrate the Wahhabi jihadist networks which, helped by Saudi financial institutions, had spread across the restive Russian Caucasian.
Instead, the two former Chechens betrayed their mission and went secretly over to the radical Islamist networks.
By this tortuous path, the brothers earned the dubious distinction of being the first terrorist operatives to import al Qaeda terror to the United States through a winding route outside the Middle East – the Caucasus.
This broad region encompasses the autonomous or semi-autonomous Muslim republics of Dagestan, Ingushetia, Kabardino-Balkaria, Chechnya, North Ossetia and Karachyevo-Cherkesiya, most of which the West has never heard of.
Moscow however keeps these republics on a tight military and intelligence leash, constantly putting down violent resistance by the Wahhabist cells, which draw support from certain Saudi sources and funds from the Riyadh government for building Wahhabist mosques and schools to disseminate the state religion of Saudi Arabia.
The Saudis feared that their convoluted involvement in the Caucasus would come embarrassingly to light when a Saudi student was questioned about his involvement in the bombng attacks while in a Boston hospital with badly burned hands.
They were concerned to enough to send Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saudi al-Faisal to Washington Wednesday, April 17, in the middle of the Boston Marathon bombing crisis, for a private conversation with President Barack Obama and his national security adviser Tom Donilon on how to handle the Saudi angle of the bombing attack.
That day too, official Saudi domestic media launched an extraordinary three-day campaign. National and religious figures stood up and maintained that authentic Saudi Wahhabism does not espouse any form of terrorism or suicide jihadism and the national Saudi religion had nothing to do with the violence in Boston. “No matter what the nationality and religious of the perpetrators, they are terrorists and deviants who represent no one but themselves.”
Prince Saud was on a mission to clear the 30,000 Saudi students in America of suspicion of engaging in terrorism for their country or religion, a taint which still lingers twelve years after 9/11. He was concerned that exposure of the Tsarnaev brothers’ connections with Wahhabist groups in the Caucasus would revive the stigma.
The Tsarnaevs' recruitment by US intelligence as penetration agents against terrorist networks in southern Russia explains some otherwise baffling features of the event:
1. An elite American college in Cambridge admitted younger brother Dzhokhar and granted him a $2,500 scholarship, without subjecting him to the exceptionally stiff standard conditions of admission. This may be explained by his older brother Tamerlan demanding this privilege for his kid brother in part payment for recruitment.
2. When in 2011, a “foreign government” (Russian intelligence) asked the FBI to screen Tamerlan for suspected ties to Caucasian Wahhabist cells during a period in which they had begun pledging allegiance to al Qaeda, the agency, it was officially revealed, found nothing incriminating against him and let him go after a short interview.
He was not placed under surveillance. Neither was there any attempt to hide the fact that he paid a long visit to Russia last year and on his return began promoting radical Islam on social media.
Yet even after the Boston marathon bombings, when law enforcement agencies, heavily reinforced by federal and state personnel, desperately hunted the perpetrators, Tamerlan Tsarnaev was never mentioned as a possible suspect
3. Friday, four days after the twin explosions at the marathon finishing line, the FBI released footage of Suspect No. 1 in a black hat and Suspect No. 2 in a white hat walking briskly away from the crime scene, and appealed to the public to help the authorities identify the pair.
We now know this was a charade. The authorities knew exactly who they were. Suddenly, during the police pursuit of their getaway car from the MIT campus on Friday, they were fully identified. The brother who was killed in the chase was named Tamerlan, aged 26, and the one who escaped, only to be hunted down Saturday night hiding in a boat, was 19-year old Dzhokhar.
Our intelligence sources say that we may never know more than we do today about the Boston terrorist outrage which shook America – and most strikingly, Washington - this week. We may not have the full story of when and how the Chechen brothers were recruited by US intelligence as penetration agents – any more than we have got to the bottom of tales of other American double agents who turned coat and bit their recruiters.
A little something else to go along with this. I think a little truthiness just got dropped here.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/boston-bomb-suspect-alarmed-russian-relatives-e...
One of the Boston bombing suspects set off alarm bells among his family a year ago during a trip here to visit relatives, ABC News has learned.
According to a family member, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, a devout Muslim, was kicked out of his uncle's house because of his increasingly extremist views on religion.
Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, and his brother Dzhokhar, 19, are believed to have placed bombs at the Boston Marathon, killing three and wounding 170. Tamerlan was killed in a shootout with police early Friday and Dzhokhar was badly wounded and captured by police Friday night.
Tamerlan Tsarnaev spent roughly six months in Russia in 2012, but the relative, who insisted on anonymity to avoid offending other family members, insisted the young man had been radicalized in the United States before his trip.
Dagestan is one of the poorest and most violent regions of Russia, home to an Islamist insurgency that seeks to establish an independent state. So far, no links have tied him to militant groups here.
Members of Congress, however, say those six months last year were a turning point in Tamerlan Tsarnaev's radicalization.
Not Chechnya though the official MSM narrative will probably try to pin his radicalization on his father.
You should look closer.
Dagestan was mentioned a while back...
Wow, you really do not understand that part of the world well do you? Keep talking.
Wow, you really can't GREP my comments from the last 48 hrs and see how I mentioned Dagestan, can you?
Keep talking.
(Was gonna leave this one, but hey... new face, guess I have to fight)
DCH, you are one hell of a good writer but Dagestan is not entirely Russian. The truth is old in saying...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagestan
Their mother is in Dagestan, it is the perfect cover and he probably did want to visit his mother also besides what other business he may have had there.
I don't know about the rest of that stuff, but quoting Members of Congress is a sure sign of a journalistic FAIL.
debka? Seriously?
Saudi craft will have Kill Switches, in spite of what they are told or believe.
Given that their dual citizens work in the US arms industry (R&D, management), we give them sub-contracts and let them participate in Joint Ventures (JV) for new designs).
I was wondering if they're messing with our minds lol...
They've basically sold components for an invasion. Missiles to clear out ground radar... refuelers for distance hauls... transports etc etc
UAE Saudi Israel, they're all part of same US coin.
Let's see, $10 Billion in arms sales, huh? I'd be curious to know how much off-the-books equipment finds its way to our <sarcasm> allies </sarcasm>. I'm pretty certain it's a helluva lot more than that. It's time to nominate emperor, er, president Obama for another Nobel Peace Prize, dontcha think?
W Bush wanted this deal with UAE, quid pro quo. The northern border is on the Straights of Hormuz. They were going to buy the US port authority, [for the right to put troops or anti-air defense systems across the river from Iran] but the Congress blocked the sale. Then USTSEC Snow was supposed to pull the deal off, and when it fell apart Bush fired him and hired Hank Paulson. The rest is history. The Neocons wanted a nofly zone over the Straights, (remember Iraq folded up after ten years of that policy) a policy from which they could or would probably insist that Iran pull back its air defense a certain number of miles to protect FREEDOM OF THE SEAS, or some other slogan from Manifest Destiny. If Irans air defense were to LOCK ON with their radar, we would consider that an aggressive act and then selectively take out their sites one by one. The plan is to push them back off the gulf. Remember that Southeastern Iran is the site of their best oil fields, and is just across the river from Iraq. That's the plan, always been the plan [proven in Iraq, only this time no boots on the ground, no occupation next time, no humanitarian distaster, the press stays in Bahrain sipping non alcholic drinks and watches the fireworks over the horizon] Obama is the not the prophet he is the fulfillment of the prophecy [laid down by the antichrist] this will bring about the end of days, remember Bush thought WW3 in the ME was going to be the rapture moment. End of days.
All financed by the Federal Reserve Notes you hold in book entry form in a "financial institution." Get the FRN's out of your life by using them to pay down your debts.
They use your fiat to leverage against you.
They use your fiat to pay off legislators who then ban your bill of rights. Nice.
First we give them $10 billion THEN they "buy" the weaponry.....
kinda like amrka's EBT economy, huh.
first they get the plastic card, then they buy the corporate crap, circle jerk all round. . .
cui bono?
albright, kissinger, brzezinski, and w. cohen???
albright, kissinger, and brzezinski the three amigos of the dynamic 'fourth-tower gate?', jewish notables... were foreign [communist?] born, yet catapulted to the head of nat'l security, and sos's?-- as for billy-boy cohen... he spends most of his valuable time in israel than the entire rothschild's family combined!
the U.S. will give the israel's the WMD for free as we have done so in the past? -- ?', as a gesture of good-will and foreign aid, period!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albright_Group http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeline_Albright http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger [BCCI & Assoc.?]
http://www.muckety.com/William-S-Cohen/2514.muckety http://www.muckety.com/American-International-Group-Inc/5000105.muckety
read em and weap for the poor zionist...
jmo
Just for the record: This is not a case of Obama vrs the GOP. These deals are done years in advance, and everyone is involved.
Mark Thomas is an old fashioned lefty; but he was active enough for them to inflitrate his offices with a PI. That was in 1999, things have changed somewhat since those days of innocence.
open up that 'aurora box' and let the sun shine in?
ya gotta do better than that...
, it's not the carrion i hunger for, nor the fleshy red-meat... rather the marrow from ze bone's?
While Connie is struggling with this present, Mattapoisett is at war with an alternative future in which a select few wealthy capitalists enjoy long life and affluence on space platforms. The rest of the human population lives on a decayed Earth, kept acquiescent with drugs, selling their sexual favors and later their organs to the rich until they die before reaching forty. The technological bureaucracy supporting this system is attempting to maintain control by influencing the past -- specifically, Connie's era. As she watches people from her own century destroy the environment, silence radical voices and empower centralized forces to kill off opposition, she witnesses independent, intelligent Luciente, "the light-bearer," transmuting into sex-stereotypical, vacuous Gildina, a futuristic prostitute who expects to die selling her organs so that some faraway rich woman can live forever. [Overview of Women on the Edge of Time, 1977]
Elysium, in theatres 9th August. Set in the year 2159, where the very wealthy live on a man-made space station while the rest of the population resides on a ruined Earth, a man takes on a mission that could bring equality to the polarized worlds.
So many laden term these days... in deference to ZH (and, more importantly, innocent viewers getting track-back, and I'd strongly advise you not to go looking for things you don't want to find, because they'll be looking back at you), I've not included the really spooky stuff out there; American volunteer restaurants, Chinese trucks dumping bodies over the roads, EU refugee camp oddities, Latin American slums where the tequila is knock-out; it's a veritable smorgasbord in the dark places, full of sharp pointy teeth.
Maybe I misunderstood what you were looking for?
You must have been, cause this is the over 60 crowd who lives for today. You were looking for the young tender meat which was not a toxic waste dump inside. Good luck w/ that.
I see what you did there, bravo.
the breakaway civilization is about to go mainstream...interesting.
the original storyline that they ripped off would have made a good film.
You mean, like, the fat people on the mobile recliners in Wall-E?
Many innocent people will pay with their lifes because of this deal.
WWIII is fast approaching.