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What An 'Alleged' Terrorist Looks Like In Infrared

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Massachusetts State Police have just released these stunning images of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's 'heat signature' as he hid in the boat...

 

 

 

 

Via @MassStatePolice

 

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Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:07 | 3477982 fonzannoon
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If knocking the price of gold down sparked a gold buying frenzy does telling a whole city to hide unprotected under their couch while cops run around the city armed spark a gun buying frenzy? By that I mean an even bigger gun buying frenzy? Does JPM have a gun vault? There is going to be failure of delivery's happening all over the place pretty soon.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 18:55 | 3478438 BigJim
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You don't need to waste money on a gun if you already have scissors!

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:15 | 3478020 agent default
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The conditioning has commenced.  It's called breaking them in.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 18:04 | 3478315 holgerdanske
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You did.
Ban pressure cookers!!

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 20:01 | 3478587 aerojet
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Some of that is Monday morning quarterbacking.  Supposed the plot was carried out by more professional types who actually had a getaway plan and had planted bombs around the city?  Or even just pre-placed weapons and equipment at a safe house.  It could have been that the first bombing was an opening act to something worse, like a dirty bomb. All this was going through the minds of the FBI and others.   None of that is outside the realm of possibility if they had had the assistance of a foreign government.  That attack shows that the US is woefully unprepared for any real attack and that the statists are wrong--they can't keep America safe with just cops, feds, and military.  It is going to require a civil defense approach where all citizens are empowered to help out.  It would be similar to what the Swiss have.   

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 22:59 | 3479167 The Heart
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Bingo!

Like the Swiss landers do. Everyone is armed to the teeth, and NO ONE messes around.

BUT, dare ya to try and tell that to at least ten americans on your way home.

The mass of the American people are sad as it is, brain dead.

The daily propaganda church on cnn and fox etc still has so many under total mind control. Mention the exact answer to save their country, and they will curse you, or worse, stand and applaud the fall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp069Y_P-9M

The same thing happened in nazi germany. This train is on the same exact track to destruction and total decimation.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 20:54 | 3478780 Amused2Death
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I'm still wondering, if a single person actually refused to allow the police to search their homes?  Do they have a universal search warrant???

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 23:06 | 3479189 The Heart
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Those people were more scared of the armed troops, than they were the 19 year old patsy.

Also, how many of you are doing a double take on 19 year olds that looked like that kid did, now?

Talk about mind control.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2962412/Jacobson-Mind-Control-in-USA

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 20:26 | 3478685 kchrisc
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There is no incompetence. They serve each other, the pols and crats and their elite puppet masters as well as can be expected.

I guess it depends on whether one sees taxes as "paid" or extracted.        hujel

 

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:33 | 3477818 RacerX
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"Gee there's a huge heat signature coming from a winterized boat".

Seriously, glad they caught the guys. Hats off to the BPD. I also believe there are many more involved that we are not being told about. I hope the investigations continue and "we the people" get to the bottom of this.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:35 | 3477841 DoChenRollingBearing
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Hear ya RacerX, you wrote:

"I also believe there are many more involved that we are not being told about. I hope the investigations continue and "we the people" get to the bottom of this."

I hope so too, but in Texas they always told me: "You hold your breath, you'll die."

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:43 | 3477883 Precious
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Hats off to the BPD?  Really?  The boat owner discovered the kid, not any law enforcement official.

But there is a question people want to know RacerX.  

When the government knocks at your door, are you standing there with a jar of Vaseline?

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:46 | 3477896 Cdad
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I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest...that RacerX is either an uniformed citizen...or more likely a government employee planting the meme that our government heroes have "saved us" yet again.  

As for folks sitting around, ordered to remain in their homes by the Boston Police Department....baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:00 | 3477963 RacerX
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Yeah, hats off to those guys. Yeah I know a homeowner called it in. But the BPD did the takedown.

And fuck you if you think I'm a plant. Retard.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:05 | 3477976 Cdad
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I said that you were either one thing or another.  I gave you the out.  

As for the take down, he was lying in a pool of his own blood, absorbing flash bang grenades and tear gas.  I'm pretty sure your grandma could have taken him down at that point.

Be a useless idiot @Huffingtonpost, please.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:11 | 3477995 fonzannoon
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It's like an ass backwards accidental advertisement. It's a boat and a bunker than can sheild you from a military onslaught.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:27 | 3478055 hannah
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if that guy was dripping blood enough to be seen easily he was probably unable to move....

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 19:10 | 3478466 krispkritter
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As noted on some of the early Daily Mail pics, you see the perp stepping out of the boat with the shredded cover behind him. DM originally said it was a security camera showing him getting IN the boat.  DM is wrong as often as right but their pics clearly showed him able to begin climbing out of the boat after the flash-bang shredded it.  Now he's in 'critical' condition in the hospital while some of the victims of the bombing had limbs(some multiple) ripped completely off and most are recovering as well as can be expected in the same hospital.  And while they did have a medical tent and personnel on hand at the Marathon, you'll note from the pics of the perp after he was detained, he's receiving medical attention immediately and was hauled off in an ambulance shortly afterwards.

 

http://tinypic.com/r/wu3sko/4

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 01:28 | 3479519 francis_sawyer
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DM reported that the exchange happened 'shortly' after 7PM... The timestamps on the infrared fotos show 19:22, 19:36, then another at 20:11...

~~~

Also, the ladder is up at 19:22, then down at 19:36.. In the DM photos, you see no ladder at all...

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 05:14 | 3482897 krispkritter
Sun, 04/21/2013 - 01:44 | 3479529 Common_Cents22
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how stupid is the media?  It is clear that photo is of him getting OUT of the boat after the shrink wrap was torn open.  It was NOT him getting in.  what kind of security cam would have caught that.   The media is fucking stupid, ignorant or willfully dumbfucks.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:51 | 3478073 Bastiat
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I've heard "flashbangs" are the same as the grenade simulators we used in combat training.  I would want to be in a small closed area with one.  In fact, if that's what happened, they will have to write out their questions because he won't be hearing much for a while.

[after looking into it, flashbangs are different.  The original flashbang was indeed a m116 grenade simulator, then the specialized M84 was developed.  The M116 had a paper/carboard body, like a fire cracker.  The flash was a regular powder flash, not enhanced, so not blinding.  They were about as loud as real thing.  Dangerous w/in 5 meters it said on the casing.  About the size of an 8oz jar.] 

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:51 | 3478135 gorillaonyourback
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That Hopium fertilizer you're smokin might be why he thinks ur a plant. I suggest u look around for green shoots

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 17:11 | 3478156 malek
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You are completely brainwashed.

I don't want to waste my time here as Karl Denninger put it down rather nicely already.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 20:42 | 3478733 kchrisc
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You may not be a plant, but you sure are a plant--of the green, leafy kind.

And instead of saying "fuck you" here, one is encouraged to explain "fuck you" instead.

You should have explained your position as to why you think you and others should take their hat off to them. Maybe you are correct or maybe everyone is wrong. A thorough explanation on your part would enlighten all and possibly cause a positive change in mindset.        hujel

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:46 | 3477894 gorillaonyourback
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We got to the bottom of 911 it was the mossad and our own gov

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 18:25 | 3478376 zjxn06
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Speaking of Mosaad and our own government.  Here's what Mosad have apparently leaked to an Israeli newspaper.

http://debka.com/article/22914/The-Tsarnaev-brothers-were-double-agents-who-decoyed-US-into-terror-trap 

"Please, no rush to judgement" indeed.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:34 | 3477833 Jigsaw
Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:35 | 3477838 RafterManFMJ
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And they also found 4 grow rooms. Win!

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:36 | 3477846 The Abstraction...
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What they are not showing you is the microwave camera mode that sees through walls and watch as you wank off. We really need more money spent on wank off detector drones.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:40 | 3477865 TeamDepends
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Wouldn't you know it, Congress is trying to ram through the Self Pleasurement Tax...

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:43 | 3477886 Papasmurf
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Of course, they will exempt themselves.  

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:48 | 3477902 Dr. Engali
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They would go broke due to the fact they find pleasure bringing misery to others.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:50 | 3477917 toys for tits
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A bigger audience than my dead relatives to watch me masturbate?

Fuck.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:57 | 3477952 Svendblaaskaeg
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Dont spoil my favorite sport Bro

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:37 | 3477847 TeamDepends
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Looks like our last boating adventure....

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:38 | 3477855 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ LOLOL !!!

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:42 | 3477873 krispkritter
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Looks like a ZH'er after a visit to the local Gold & Silver outlet...

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:37 | 3477854 Frank N. Beans
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at least they caught a live one

coulda been dead, with no heat signature, after a few hours

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:41 | 3477859 Dr. Engali
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You can't hide anything in the modern police state. I'll bet they can locate all the gold Hedgers lost at the bottom of the various lakes with that technology.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:28 | 3478062 css1971
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Nah, it can be defeated by $5 worth of mylar sheet. Which will become illegal to posess in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:39 | 3477860 Divine Wind
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Errrrrr, does anyone know if Gold or Silver show up also?

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 18:11 | 3478339 holgerdanske
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Are you referring to your rather unfortunate boating accident?

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:40 | 3477869 Dr. Engali
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Look for the flags to be flying from the cars. We are going to war boys and girls.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:36 | 3478022 GoinFawr
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"going"? When did the last one end?

From the overflowing 'coulda shoulda woulda' archives

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:55 | 3478149 noob
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Bluto's Big Speech - Animal House (9/10) Movie CLIP (1978) HD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7vtWB4owdE

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 20:49 | 3478763 TeamDepends
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Nothing is over until we decide it is!!!

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 17:17 | 3478219 Rogue Trooper
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+5.56x45 Doc, no need for a foreign adventure in the Northern Caucauses, if the Chechnyan's do get the rap, they will come to you. Everyone wins!

Run Forest Run!

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:50 | 3477910 PUD
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If the cops aim had been better then there wouldn't be any heat signature and the lad would be well on his way to the virgins in the sky.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:46 | 3477941 A Lunatic
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It seems to me that a diehard, desperate Terrorist would have at least saved the last round for himself.......

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 20:11 | 3478623 Anusocracy
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I like to think that if Iraq, Afghanistan, etc, had trillion dollar militaries and US soldiers had AK-47s, there wouldn't be US soldiers in their countries, or there would be a whole lot of dead US soldiers.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:53 | 3477928 Zer0head
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Did the Chechen bombers deliberately plant explosives under Russian flag on race route? Questions raised about motive behind attacks as Obama speaks to Putin about the bombings  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2312083/Boston-bombing-Did-Chechen-bombers-deliberately-plant-explosives-Russian-flag-race-route-Questions-raised-motive-attacks-Obama-speaks-Putin-bombings.html
Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:55 | 3477937 Frastric
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How the fuck weren't these brothers captured in that last shoot-out with the police? I mean there must have at least one police helicopter following the police vehicles and yet Dzhokhar Tsarnaev managed to escape that shootout, travel less than a kilometer and then hide in a boat.

This is the biggest clusterfuck ever, hell Dzhokhar was only found AFTER the lock-down was lifted and a resident checked his boat, after seeing blood marks on his garden path, and then found Dzhokhar and then called the police.

So they lift the stay-indoors order after supposedly checking every house in Watertown yet they failed to pick up the obvious clues of flecks of blood on a pavement.

The imcompetence is staggering! But really it was just an excuse to test out martial law, and the residents of Watertown just accepted it! Sheeple indeed.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:31 | 3478074 hannah
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first off the 'big search'wasnt to find the bomber. it was theater and training for the sheep. second the suspect had to be a tough sob, he is shot, probably multiple times and then abandones a car and outruns the cops and helicopters for a mile. the average fat ass american couldnt do that. he then hides all day in a boat probably because he wasnt able to move at that point.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:48 | 3478098 freedogger
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Find the scanner recording on line to check my take. But what I remember from the live feed, BPD on the scene of the shoot out was irate about two things in particular. They setup a perimeter as an afterthought, no one was initially focussed on it. Also, the way they stopped and the way the squad cars parked that were arriving later left them with very little room to maneuver. 

They were also commanded to pair up when setting up the perimeter. And quite a few minutes later, they realized that one street in particular had very little coverage on it. They then scrambled to plug this gap.

Piss poor cordination of the take down, piss poor setup of the perimeter, failure to review what had transpired and realize they should be searching a bigger grid all made it easy for a run of the mill fugitive to bust through and escape.

No one even thought to try to shoot and disable the suspects vehicle. They did mention the long guns as they were reffered to were in fact deployed nearly imediately.

This is not me armchairing, this is my recollection of the criticism that BPD broadcast over the air. It was no surprise to hear that he haf escaped their perimeter. If it wasn't for the 'anal' step dad worrying about his boat, we probably would still be wondering where this fuktard was.Just I

imagine if he had died in there and the boat was on blocks for another couple of months.

 

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:57 | 3477950 q99x2
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Putins gift to Hussein Obama for buying from Rusky arms dealers.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:59 | 3477951 Dr. Engali
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Terrorist ? But he's such a nice kid. How can that be ? He's just like the boy next store. Maybe I should keep an eye on him.

See something say something bitchez!

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 15:58 | 3477955 Rustysilver
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So how much silver is there on the bottom of that boat. Does he have a GPS with stored coordinates.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:01 | 3477962 Cacete de Ouro
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The finish line of the Boston marathon is at 666 Boylston Street.
Put it into Google Maps, look at streetview, and see...

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:54 | 3478141 wchild
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Boston Public Library??

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 17:09 | 3478196 Edward Fiatski
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Coincidence.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 02:11 | 3479555 Bear
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Sorry ... see what caption on Boston Library?

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:04 | 3477973 janus
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this brings up a few questions for ole jauns:

question the first -- why are we allowed to see the gruesome pics of these boys and not osama?

question the second -- why were blood hounds (which i know for sure are assets of our 'staties') not employed in the search? (this would've been over in ten minutes)

question the third -- why was every single procedure in a standard manhunt 'forgotten'.  for example, you never settle on an assumed outcome...ie, you are not only to knock on doors, but check every shed, beneath every deck, and, yes, every boat...goddamit, especially boats -- water is evasion route #1!

i'm starting to suspect that the feds were waiting on this boy to 'bleed-out'...seeing the blood puddle reported, i think they did some calculations, made sure no engaged citizen would find him in time, called off the search (certain that the red stuff had sufficently spilt), and then were unlucky enough to be outdone by some hapless citizen with a blood soaked tarp atop his speed boat once the stay indoor order was lifted.

jokes on you dis time, uncle sam.

all the same, bravo to the BPD...they were not calling the shots, only following orders from a foul and feculent portion of our hijacked govt.

now, if some enterprising go-getter wants to hear some REAL shit...go find the NPR interview of citizens in watertown (specifically the one on adams street) from yesterday.  he claims no state or local involved in early firefight, and that the SUV came crashing in long after the firefight was initiated.

goons to a mutha-fuckin one...sloppy and arrogant goons to boot.

rot in hell, neo-communists.

onward,

janus

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:32 | 3478072 tip e. canoe
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excellent questions, j.   would love to hear that citizen interview before it gets scrubbed forever.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:54 | 3478147 freedogger
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The BPD scanner recording is on line in its entirety. I do remember mention of a stolen state police SUV being mentioned early on right after the shootout. Be interesting to follow up on it.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:56 | 3478152 Mae Kadoodie
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here's a question I have, the brothers were supposedly throwing homemade hand grenades at the cops as they sped away.  Any pictures of the collateral damage from these explosives?  Anyone say "hey, my fuckin parked car has shrapnel holes in it!?"

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 18:55 | 3478442 Ignatius
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That would be 'journalism', but the msm outlets who could fund real journalism seem to have other agendas.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 21:00 | 3478795 kchrisc
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Couldn't find the interview but sure found a lot of propaganda, especially the photos of the sheeple applauding their "jailers." I hope to visit this street one day in the future, after the police-state becomes blatantly clear and the economy is officially gone, to ask these sheeple what they think now about those gun and badge thugs in camo and green.        hujel

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 00:50 | 3479468 TNTARG
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Right but about the definition "neo-communists". These look like clumsy brutal idiots or people so full of shit or so fucked up that believe we're unable to think for ourselves.

Stalin, on the other hand, was just brutal and didn't consider his opponents to be assholes. He said that "ideas are more powerful than guns" meanwhile the US government clearly thinks the opposite.

Stalin said "you don't have to give  the news to the masses but you have to educate it"; the US government does the opposite.

He was a tyrant but never looked ridiculous.

Anyway, in the end, the USSR fell apart and so will the US empire as all totalitarisms do fall apart, specially when they attack their own people.

 

 

 

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:08 | 3477983 A Lunatic
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The day I watched NASA track Felix Baumgartners jump from space via thermal imaging from miles away, I knew there was nothing that could be hidden from the prying eyes of the advancing Police State. "Seeing" under a tarp is child's play. There is surveillance technology available that would give a grown man nightmares, it is simply either too expensive, or too disruptive to the fragile minds of the sheeples for full integration into common use in society at large; at least openly, for now.............

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 18:23 | 3478367 holgerdanske
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That should be rather easy. There is nothing else there, and that "nothing" is very cold!

So it is like a needle in a haystack, in a way---.

 

Without any hay!

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:11 | 3477985 Zola
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I have little sympathy for all the sheep mouthing USSA USSA USSA ... Great 1man vs all the cops and the state. The lesson is you should be scared of the great all powerful state right little sheep ? Bow down to your masters. Never mind that they are corrupt scum.

Ps: most of the people are also willing participants and enablers of this charade by supporting the very evil system in power today. Everyone must be slaves together right ?

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:10 | 3477992 Nex
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Russia warn US about Tsarnaev but FBI not take warning too serious.

 

 

Russia asked FBI to investigate Boston bomb suspect in 2011: source

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/20/us-usa-explosions-boston-russi...

 

 

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 23:35 | 3479293 The Heart
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"The FBI found nothing to substantiate Russian allegations that Tsarnaev was a follower of radical Islam who was preparing to travel to Russia to join unspecified radical groups, a national security source said.

Tsarnaev flew to Russia the following year. Official records show he left New York's JFK airport on January 12, 2012 for Moscow and returned to the United States on July 17, 2012. It is unclear what he did while in Russia or whether he traveled elsewhere during that period."

Darn, that just sounds stupid. Unclear, after they were told what he was doing?

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:13 | 3478006 hannah
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does anyone else question that this guy 'gave up' after the quantico guy showed up...? i think he was unconscious from 12hrs of blood lose....

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:14 | 3478009 GubbermintWorker
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Hope the owner wasn't hiding his gold in there!

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:40 | 3478102 toys for tits
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He was hiding some pot.  It's a double win for the BPD.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:18 | 3478027 YHC-FTSE
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This reminds me of the eerie green images from cruise missiles just before they hit their targets in the first Iraq war. Isn't technology wonderful?  Cue a "Concerned mom" who asks the president to equip every police chopper with flir and hellfire missiles as she thinks it would have prevented this kind of atrocity and city-wide lockdown afterwards.  

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:17 | 3478028 css1971
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Mylar gardening sheeting is your friend against IR.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:31 | 3478067 A Lunatic
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You have to be careful not to create a huge blank spot of uniformity. If it don't look natural it will garner further scrutiny. Also, all of you underground bunker types might want to address the exhaust from your hidey hole.............lol.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:42 | 3478109 toys for tits
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I believe you're jesting.

The signature above only garnered further scrutiny because the homeowner called.  He was probably put on hold for at least an hour.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:52 | 3478136 A Lunatic
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It is possible to defeat a dedicated search of a property if you understand the technology used in the search. This was a scared and wounded kid, not a seasoned veteran with advanced evasion skills....

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 17:01 | 3478172 css1971
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The terrorists planted both primary and secondary devices, to hit the public and then to hit the people who come to help the victims of the primary blast... i.e. trained.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 17:22 | 3478229 Arthur
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or not trained.

 

The news is full of such two staged bombing events in the middle east every week.

One to go boom and the 2nd to take out the 1st responders.  SOP these days.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 19:51 | 3478558 SmallerGovNow2
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Like West Texas?

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:58 | 3478164 css1971
Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:22 | 3478042 kurt
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Theory: Brothers were "managed" by local FBI agents as a potential resource. They gave them a Honda CRV and more recently a Camaro. From the younger's web site it was clear that he was either drunk, drugged, or retarded but loved attention, to be laughed at, to mugg. He wanted to be useful and admired.  Over 5 years of "counciling" they tried to use the brothers in their, then current, bomber exercise, they were introducting the use of android ipad triage, diagnositc medical devices. An entire operation complete with "private" teams including the skull boys, their fucking Escalade. They were testing remote detonation electronic pulse units. The handlers of the brothers thought they'd be perfect to plant the dummy bombs. In furtherance of their sting they provided the materials and techniques for building the pressure cooker devices. Our own, fragmented pods of DHS and private security MUTANTS circling the toilet of CIA FBI dark pools of money (like suppliers of mexican gang weaponry): two year community college graduates with some military experience, Borne-envy, wana be Tom Cruise, GI Joe fantasy fuckers, I'm not talking the brothers, I talking "US". People to watched all the Sniper movies. What did they gain?

It's time to defund. It's time to return a real economy to the continental US. It's time to stop trying to turn America into a battlefield for your sexualized violence fantasies.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:55 | 3478145 toys for tits
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I've been asking myself 'why would any agency practice looking for dummy bombs on a day with all these people.

Is that hubris, a planned attack, or ineptitude?

If it was ineptitude, why would you plant dummies around only to be distracted from the job you should be doing, which is providing security?  You would also have the potential of the 'Richard Jewels' finding and reporting the dummies as well.  If if was ineptitude whoever planned this training exercise should be fired.

If it was hubris, then there is no excuse, whoever planned this training exercise on this day should be fired.  

If no one gets fired for planning this exercise, then it will tend to have me believe that this was a planned attack, which was coordinated with whoever planned this training exercise.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 17:25 | 3478241 kurt
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Oh it was planned, if you can call it that. Then Waco, er Oklahoma City, blew up again (the fertilzer bomb), then Ricin Letters, on time, like a bad song, repeating over and over. Add to that the repeating of the themes, and repeating again. These retards actually believed BF Skinner's operant conditioning. Whoever keeps beating these stupid drums, weak, failed, dumb, brainless, worn out, heartless, worst of all,  are DANGEROUS. You see they have an ossified  world-view, a model, formed sometime in 1970-80's. They continue to play against the model even when it differs from reality. Without changing the model they try then to shape the world to fit the model. Pure futility. The problem is a misallocation of resources, wealth. If you are rich you are NOT automatically smart. You are not right because you are powerful. You don't get to kill people even though you have, and are. DEFUND. Prosecute. Regulate. Redistribute wealth. In nature, one parasite will not kill its host. Many parasites, each acting in its own self interest, reasoning "your gain, my loss" together feed until the host is dead.  A sick body gets a feaver hot enough burn out the infection: it doesn't let the infection dictate policy and call the tune.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 18:17 | 3478361 Herd Redirectio...
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Wealth has become too thinly distributed.  I.E. the wealthy have stolen more of the relative wealth than in any other period in history.  The economy is unbalanced due to all the gains attributing to 1% of the population.  It wasn't even this unbalanced back in medieval or feudal times!

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 17:59 | 3478303 freedogger
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I fucking agree!

I can understand letting less experienced shadow the more trained WHILE THEY FUCKING DO THEIR REAL MISSION OF DEFENDING THE HOME LAND. 

Surely monitoring and attempting to protect a real event is a better learning experience than a contrived exercise at a real event.

Sorry for shouting in all caps, first time I've fucking ever done this on the internet.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 23:45 | 3479323 The Heart
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Nice Kurt.

The darn shirt in the shorts is, THAT is entirely possible in the corruptness of all that new marxinazi regime stuff.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:28 | 3478058 q99x2
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Jesse's Cafe has some nice videos about gold posted for saturday viewing.

About 5 of them.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 20:52 | 3478771 WmMcK
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'Cocaine is a hell of a drug.' --  Rick James

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:39 | 3478095 Catullus
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All that technology and thousands of assholes standing around, and some guy (violating the police edict to stay indoors), checks his boat and finds the guy.

Looking like a giant fucking waste. But that's called "economic growth" to Keynesians.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:58 | 3478160 syntaxterror
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And the new orders for tactical commando vehicles, gear and weaponry is about to skyrocket. So, what stocks to buy to profit from the debt-fueled spending bonanza?

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 23:48 | 3479327 The Heart
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At 85 BILLION a month!

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 17:30 | 3478247 Bastiat
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Doesn't seem likely with that chopper up there all day that they didn't see him.  As someone suggested, maybge they were waiting for him to bleed out so they could find him dead.  Fits with the fusillade fired at the boat once they got the tip and had to act. Somehow he survived that too. 

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 21:24 | 3478866 kchrisc
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Then they said that the negotiated for 20-minutes with him. I was there and this is how the "negotiations" went:

Gun and badge thugs (GBTs): "Are you still alive?"

Patsy: "Yes, help me."

GBTs: "Damn!"

Time passing........

GBTs: "Are you still alive?"

Patsy: "Yes, help me."

GBTs: "Damn!"

Time passing........

GBTs: "Are you still alive?"

Patsy: "Yes, help me."

GBTs: "Damn it! Go get him Bob. We'll get him at the hospital. And no Miranda!"

 

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 00:03 | 3479359 The Heart
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It was strange when this was happening in the now of the moment then. They spoke to using some sort of dummy bullets to shoot the boat with.

Then, there suddenly became a jurisdictional thing in which the boston pd had the place surrounded and ready to go in. BPD relieved, the feds took the jurisdiction, prolly using the patriot act, and then sent in the fed go get em team. Might have been the difference between life and death for the patsy kid. Feds tend to be a little more sane, than fired up and angry locals.

What everyone should be praying for is, that he somehow survives and gets out of the satanic hospital he is in that is also run by the synagogue of satan, and PDQ! If he makes it out of there alive with any sanity, it will be a miracle.

What every one should remember is when you wish death upon another, you wish it upon yourself and your own. In this dimension, there is the Law of Fairness. If it is not held up in good standing, what will you expect when it is your turn, for judgement? For those who do not believe in life after death of the body, talk to anyone who has been there and back. It's a trip!

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:41 | 3478108 Bagbalm
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Is anybody wondering why they aren't on TV waving the captured weapons from the brothers? Could it be all the shots fired were from police?

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 17:34 | 3478254 Bastiat
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Could be, or maybe they sent it to China to melted down for scrap.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 00:10 | 3479383 The Heart
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Lets see....2,000,000,000 hollow points minus 200 is 1,999,999,800 left.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:49 | 3478125 donethat
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"My brother made me do it, I didn't know what was in the bag."

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:56 | 3478151 syntaxterror
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"He said they were fireworks"

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 08:42 | 3479812 monad
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Tuple

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 16:09 | 3479813 monad
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Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:54 | 3478137 syntaxterror
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So much of this entire saga makes no sense:

 

1. FBI interviews Suspect #1 about two years ago yet they don't know who he is and they have to release photos to get help identifying him? Surely the FBI isn't this fucking incompetant, right?

2. How does this bleeding thug escape 1000 cops? How does the thug go undetected from the same infrared devices that made these photos?

3. Dogs couldn't track the bleeding thug? Really?

 

Anyone care to expand this list including any details going back to day one?

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 17:00 | 3478170 toys for tits
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Frankly, I'm getting tired of the MSM asking why no family or friends could have seen this coming.

If the FBI couldn't see this coming after investigating these guys, how would any of their friends or family be able to do it?

This proposition is only for those that believe the MSM meme, which was received from law enforcement.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 00:14 | 3479381 TNTARG
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No one saw it coming because it didn't come from there.

Frankly (and even when this whole thing is so outrageous), they could have put togheter a better story, considering the huge budgets they can count on and the very large ammount of "specialists" they have.

The US governments keep astonishing us all.

Or... are they testing how stupid can we be?

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 17:03 | 3478173 swanpoint
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residents call police and tell them there's a guy in the boat in the backyard, helicopter arrives, gets to use its thermal camera. they often find deer in the woods in the same exacttly amazing way. suspects are usually long gone except when they're shot  and lay dieing.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 17:05 | 3478182 Cacete de Ouro
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Where are we going to run this event? ...Watertown

Watertown, sounds like we'll need a boat... ... You got it... a boat, good one, we'll throw in a boat....

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 17:07 | 3478183 Winston Smith 2009
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This is interesting:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/04/20/boston_bombing_suspect...

"On Thursday night, one officer encountered the two cars being driven by Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. The officer was instructed to wait for backup but before it arrived, the brothers jumped out of the cars and started shooting at his car. The five other officers arrived and an intense firefight ensued. “We estimate there was over 200 shots fired in a five- to 10-minute period," Deveau said. And it wasn’t just bullets. The brothers also threw explosives at the officers, including a pressure cooker bomb.

At one point Tamerlan started walking directly toward the police while shooting, and when he ran out of ammunition an officer used the opportunity to tackle him. But when officers were handcuffing him in the middle of the street they suddenly realized a black SUV driven by Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was coming right for them. The officers “dive out of the way, and he drives over his brother and drags him a short distance down the street."

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 17:08 | 3478193 tip e. canoe
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At one point Tamerlan started walking directly toward the police while shooting, and when he ran out of ammunition an officer used the opportunity to tackle him

WHERE'S THE GUN???

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 17:09 | 3478192 N57Mike
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I recognize that Debka is a Mossad outlet .... But this is interesting, would explain how they were passed on by the FBI, the scholarships, as well as the recent intervention by Saudis ...

The Tsarnaev brothers were double agents who decoyed US into terror trap

http://app.debka.com/p/article/22914/The-Tsarnaev-brothers-were-double-a...

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 17:14 | 3478214 N57Mike
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Reading further into the story, this may explain why they did not read him his Miranda rights too

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 17:50 | 3478282 syntaxterror
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The article says "An elite American college in Cambridge admitted younger brother Dzhokhar and granted him a $2,500 scholarship, without subjecting him to the exceptionally stiff standard conditions of admission." Since when is UMass Dartmouth elite?

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 17:59 | 3478300 Bear
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Sounds like story of young Indonesian student who gets full ride to Columbia ... then never shows up to class, but graduates anyway then admitted to Harvard Law without transcripts

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 21:52 | 3478951 kchrisc
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"Service" credit for on the job experience with the CIA.        hujel

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 22:29 | 3479037 kchrisc
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The slam dunk for me on Sandy Hook being Sandy Hoax is what the propaganda media has ignored. The take down of the guy in the woods especially.

Everyone knows that the propaganda media would have normally rode that one, with video no less, until it dropped of exhaustion. Normally we would have been inundated with who this guy is and what he eats, the name of the attending at his birth, circumcised or not, and whether he waters his plants regularly.

The propaganda media ignored that shit like it was a bunch of email from the University of East Anglia showing that global warming is a fraud.

And, well shit, what parent, even a nigger (ignorant, subsidized and coddled black person) smiles, laughs and jokes and then works to put themselves into "character" before discussing the shooting to death of their daughter not 24 hours before?! And he has NO online presences that can be uncovered.

Or did I do too much crack?!      hujel

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 17:12 | 3478208 whoopsing
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Whats up with the ladder next to the boat in these pics? Its up ,its gone, its back, but on the ground ? Hmmm

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 17:46 | 3478273 Bear
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Good call;

Latter up at 19:22

Latter down at 19:36 - Police on scene (problably took latter down) police boom holding canvas open

Latter down at 20:01 - so why the negative pic 25 minutes after they opened the boat?

 

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 19:34 | 3478483 krispkritter
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Ladder is still down as perp gets up and starts climbing out of the boat.  Assume the flash-bangs knocked it down?  The ladder was probably put up as the reports said that the owner was looking in the boat when he saw blood, maybe stepson, don't remember.  Note the square shown in the cover in the first pic; most sizable boat covers have access panels to get in and out of the boat without removing the whole cover.

http://tinypic.com/r/wu3sko/4

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 17:24 | 3478236 ali-ali-al-qomfri
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oh yah that dude is white,.....no...wait black,.....no technicolor

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 17:37 | 3478256 Bear
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He needed tin foil ... or better yet an escape plan. The two morons just hung around Watertown when they could have bought a old beater (before the bombing) and driven to California. If this is the face of future jihad, we are really in trouble idiots with bombs trying to kill the Infidel.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 17:39 | 3478265 yogibear
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"1) Searching peoples' homes without consent."

Good practice when seizing for weapons when they get the ok.

When tyrants take over they cannot have people that can fight back. 

 

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 17:45 | 3478274 holgerdanske
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When?!

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 17:43 | 3478271 NakedEconomics
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Unleash the Drones!!

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 18:02 | 3478309 deerhunter
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Google Posse Comitotus "sp?" ,  scroll toward bottom of wiki definition.  There it states that drone training for the military routinely involves tracking of civilian vehicles all over the country.  Got Ammo?????   Pb worth more than Au or Ag  soon.   Aim small miss small.  I have a few bricks of 22lr ammo I think for around 20 bucks after the 2008 flair up.  Maybe in 2010.  Federal and Remington.  Did i read right that 22lr ammo is over 50 bucks a brick if you can find it?   Hell,  why am I buying silver again.  LOL

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 18:09 | 3478333 22winmag
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Nothing a $2 sheet of mylar couldn't have completely hidden. A cheap sheet of mylar is 99% effective again the prying eyes of FLIR.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 18:11 | 3478335 FishHockers
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When the boat owner called the cops, did he have to Press 1 for English.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 19:49 | 3478553 Bear
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Got recording ... "Your call is very important to us, please leave a message at the sound of the beep". He had to use Twitter (which was being monitored) to get any attention

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 18:16 | 3478351 deerhunter
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My beagle before he died could have trailed that bleeding scum and found him.  That dog would go until he fell over when the snow got deep.  I didn't let him go that long as he got some years on him.  Might need some beagles in the future to find my meat requirements.  Hope it doesn't come to that but I do feed the squirrels in the back yard all winter. 

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 18:34 | 3478380 B2u
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They should have used infared to find Bin Laden.  It would have taken a few less years.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 20:01 | 3478517 dreadnaught
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OBL has been dead since Dec 2001, according to Benito Bhutto, on a talk show- with host David Frost, QUICKLY changed the subject!.....asking about her favorite chocolate chip cookie recipes..lol [before she was executed/asassinated] while running for President of Pakistan

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 20:40 | 3478736 WmMcK
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Benazir Bhutto, Benito Juárez.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 22:53 | 3479146 kchrisc
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Pols that piss-off or threaten the establishment should stay away from big buildings near grassy knolls. Or did she fly a plane at dusk?!    hujel

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 18:41 | 3478404 Long_Xau
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This is NOT an appropriate way to use a boat. Leave the boats to the most experienced - the ones that have gone through many boating accidents!

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 18:44 | 3478413 BullyBearish
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2nd Amendment attacks, NDAA, drones, Boston forced entries, no Miranda for U.S. citizens...yep, as the economy implodes and the amount of goodies for the masses start diminishing they will already be prepared with lots of bullets, armored vehicles, weaponized drones, and sheep-in-uniform to quell any uprisings against America.

 

I sure as hell hope I'm wrong.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 19:31 | 3478499 22winmag
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You're right, but you're not seeing the forest through the trees.

 

These clowns in black wouldn't last two minutes in a shooting war with millions of motivated, heavily armed American patriots.

 

Even if you completely cut off the flow of ammunition and somehow took away 3/4 of the firearms currently in circulation, there would still be far more gun and ammo around than would be necessary for a successful insurgency, should the American people be forced into that position.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 23:29 | 3479267 HalinCA
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Sorry pal, the citizens with the weapons are not organized, don't have a chain of command, and don't have secure communications.

They would die in droves.

 

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 00:22 | 3479407 The Heart
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"They would die in droves."

Streaming live on CNN news to...thunderous applause.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKjuQrHp3A0

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 16:05 | 3479879 monad
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Sat, 04/20/2013 - 20:00 | 3478504 dreadnaught
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well, the whole story is fishy for sure.....amateur 'terrorists'....terrorist training exercise by the Feds going on concurrently in the city.......and look how easily/readily the public/sheeple "house arrested" themselves.....when a one block safety zone around the scene should have been sufficient; And they are getting the public used to NOT have the Miranda read to them;   looking like a False Flag as part of "Training" exercize ..no defense cuts, no cuts to *The Ministry uf Fatherland Sekurity*  increased Military prescence in our cities...They know what they are doing oh yes....and conveniantly, they are 'Muslims'...so the meme being pushed on the country is "terror, terrorist terror!....be afraid-do what youre told"...and look how CNN is milking the tragedy for every drop it can-the idiot questions reporters asked etc

wiki Operation Northwoods-it is still around v.2013

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 23:06 | 3479199 kchrisc
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"...and the amount of goodies for the masses start diminishing..." You are so correct. Seems so obvious, but most people still cannot grasp that it is ALWAYS about money and power (extraction)--they live off of us like were fucking farm animals. Politics is the divvying up process between the pols, crats and elites.

When the "goodies" slow then they need to "down-size" the farm so as to reduce the number of mouths to feed. Hence all totalitarian regimes ending up involving themselves with "eugenics."

They also know that starving and pissed-off farm animals begin to take a more jaundiced view of the farm house.              hujel

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 19:42 | 3478527 Common_Cents22
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I wonder how many people in MA were rethinking the strict gun laws they have as they are hunkered down defenseless in their own homes?

or are they dumb sheeple thinking the popo will protect them?

it's real odd I havent heard one single word about what guns the perps had, how many, and where they got them????    Look at the CO shooter and the entire story was about guns guns guns

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 20:19 | 3478654 Demogorgon
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Terrifying terrorist looks terrifying. No wonder they brought in the big guns.

/sarc

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