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Inside Ground Zero: Photos From The Suspects' Apartment

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Yesterday, we pieced together a photographic narrative of the very public events from Boston in the past week. Today, courtesy of NY Daily News, we get a first glimpse into ground zero: inside the suspect's home, an apartment located on the third floor at 410 Norfolk St. in Cambridge. From the source: "photos snapped by the Daily News show the unit in a Cambridge, Mass., building in disarray with clothes piled everywhere and a half-eaten meal left on the table." In other words, typical bachelor squalor, but that's about it. Most notably: not a trace of any explosive, incendiary or other bomb-preparing equipment or residue, no evidence of terrorist activity, and no weapons. So where did the two put together the numerous bombs they are said to have prepared?


Their Apartment 3 sits behind a makeshift plywood door, up a rickety bannister and stairs, in a nondescript building tucked on a quiet residential block in Cambridge.


Though much of the apartment was in disarray, the remnants of the brothers’ uneaten final meal remained undisturbed — with two chairs alongside their dinner table.


The apartment bore indications of the brothers’ athleticism — a set of skis, snow boots, boxing gloves, a basketball and assorted sneakers.


A bookcase with some cheap pottery stood near the dinner table, while a Crock-Pot — eerily reminiscent of the pressure cookers used in the homemade marathon bombs — was visible nearby.

A non-descript building where Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev lived.


The exterior of the Tsarnaevs home in Cambridge, Mass.


The brothers did not return home after robbing a convenience store on Thursday night.


Sporting equipment and clothing was found throughout the apartment.


Tamerlan Tsarnaev was married and had a child, but no signs were found in the apartment indicating that they lived there with him.


Athletic gear, including boxing gloves, skis, numerous sneakers and a basketball, was found inside the Tsarnaev brothers’ Cambridge apartment. Nothing overtly menacing was found. The door of their unit was made of makeshift plywood.


Other miscellaneous items were found inside the apartment, such as an old stereo, a gas can and a can of motor oil.

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And then, some contradictions:


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Sun, 04/21/2013 - 11:22 | 3480123 iDealMeat
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Jesus ZH...  Enough with this bullshit already..

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 11:27 | 3480139 MsCreant
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If they have been framed, this would be evidence in that direction. The place is a bachelor nothingburger.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 11:29 | 3480155 fonestar
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Who knows what really happened?  All of this noise coming from North Korea, the Gold & Silver slam down and the bombing happening so close together does seem very odd though.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 11:50 | 3480224 Ident 7777 economy
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" Most notably: not a trace of any explosive, incendiary or other bomb-preparing equipment or residue, no evidence of terrorist activity, and no weapons. "


How in de HELL can this be?!! It can't ... I CALL FRAME UP ... (not).


Obviously, the museum-folk have been there already and grabbed these up for 'future' display at some memorial for the two Chechnian 'boys' involved in this ...


/sarc all




Sun, 04/21/2013 - 11:58 | 3480267 francis_sawyer
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Who knows what really happened?  All of this noise coming from North Korea, the Gold & Silver slam down and the bombing happening so close together does seem very odd though.


My theory is that they all got their asses fried by listening to bitcoin weasels day & night & got pushed over the edge when it went tits up...

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 12:04 | 3480291 Ident 7777 economy
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Roiling humor in a time of FUD, darkness and insecurity; sir, you are a gem. 

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:56 | 3480698 zerozulu
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Do not believe a bit of what you are shown and do not believe half of what you are told.


Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:57 | 3480700 zerozulu
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Do your own homework.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 14:18 | 3480752 LetThemEatRand
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So the still barely alive guy who was supposedly identified (by description only) by the wheelchair victim, looks an awful lot like the Saudi person of interest who was quietly deported.  

Here's the Saudi:

Here's the guy convicted already by the press (and most Americans):

The oldest trick in the law enforcement book if they want to nab a particular perp (other than planting evidence) is to rely on eyewitness testimony which can be easily manipulated, steered, interpreted, etc. Most people incorrectly believe it is generally reliable, when study and after study shows that if you ask 5 people who all saw the same thing to identify similar looking people from the same event they will reliably pick different people.   There are literally studies where people pick completely different looking people, and they are all saying what they honestly recall.   While I understand that Beck is hot and heavy about this guy and that makes me want to reject the idea out of hand, it is awfully convenient that a similar looking guy was identified right off the bat only to be released to diplomats.  I mean really -- what are the odds that the very person identified early on as a suspect, who was at the scene and obviously injured by the explosive, happens to be someone with sufficient connections that he's photographed with a diplomat hours after the event.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 14:32 | 3480820 ronaldawg
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Ur tinfoil hat is melting - Of course they all look alike.

Seriously, the wheelchair victim "looked directly into his eyes?"  The 26 y/o was wearing sunglasses.....

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 15:12 | 3480922 flacon
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"Spalding" that orange thing is A REAL BOMB and Spalding is code for KRUGMAN!! I had a strong suspicion that we would find some sort of Keynesian propaganda in that house! Nailed it! Spalding = Krugman! 

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 17:49 | 3481404 doomandbloom
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Sun, 04/21/2013 - 15:42 | 3481014 Van Halen
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Only one was wearing sunglasses.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 14:44 | 3480854 smlbizman
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i will speak as an expert on these pics.....i have been in the property management, owned, evicted, rented and rehabed for major lenders for 20 years ,until they had no money for repairs when the shit blew up.....had conseco go bancrupt on us....i will tell you this, this is more normal than you think. if we base anything off of these pics it should be there are either countless thousands of terroist, or countless thousands of me...its slobs....the shit i have seen......

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 15:54 | 3481059 ClassicalLib17
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Plywood door?  What the fuck kind of code compliance dept. does Cambridge have?  See something? Say nothing!  I would not put up with this kind of performance from a landlord, ever.  This says alot about the mindset of Cambridge municipal gov't and the voters that put them there.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 20:10 | 3481804 Georgiabelle
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Perhaps the plywood door was installed by the police after they busted down the original door to gain access to the apartment?

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 19:03 | 3481611 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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So who here is surprised that a newspaper could get into (what I would think) is an FBI crime scene? And you're right, you'd figure they would have some bomb making equipment, manuals, computers, etc. An "eery crockpot" just won't do it. 

So now we can either blame russians or muslims (what a 2 for 1 bargain). Zbigniew must be so proud. At least it wasn't exactly like a profile that got leaked earlier, that the guy would be 19 or 20 and a white NRA follower.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 19:53 | 3481734 Georgiabelle
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Jeff Bauman was injured at the first bomb site. He identified Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who was killed Thursday night, as the perpetrator. His brother, Chris Bauman, told Bloomberg News that Jeff got a good look at one of the suspects:“He woke up under so much drugs, asked for a paper and pen and wrote, ‘bag, saw the guy, looked right at me." According to Bloomberg, Bauman, 27, of Concord, N.H., was at the finish line waiting for his girlfriend to cross when a man in a cap, sunglasses and a black jacket over a hoodie looked at him. The man dropped a bag at his feet and left. The bag exploded less than three minutes later. The description Bauman gave helped investigators narrow down which images to look for as they examined all the video of the bombings, the New York Daily News reported.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 22:57 | 3482426 Georgiabelle
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OK. I have to say I'm baffled why anyone would down vote this post. I'm simply trying to set the record straight that Jeff Bauman, the "wheelchair guy" referenced in LetThemEatRand's post as having identified Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, AKA the white hat guy, actually identified Tamerlan Tsarnaev, AKA the black hat guy. This information is readily available from just about every major news source. 

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 12:57 | 3484250 Georgiabelle
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Well, as long as it's just the conspiracy folks down voting me I'm OK with that. I was home sick Thursday and Friday and watched and read coverage of the bombings non-stop. I have listened to countless interviews with family members, friends and neighbors of those killed and injured as well as interviews with doctors and nurses at the hospitals treating the injured. There is zero chance these deaths and injuries and the bomb blasts in general were staged. I have no doubt that the markets are being manipulated, that the gold and silver markets were deliberately "taken down", that the media is controlled by TPTB, or that the government lies about many, maybe even most, things. But these are real people with families, neighbors, co-workers, etc and there is no way to pull off a conspiracy this big without one of the "actors" slipping up. Our govenment screws up even the simplest programs and just about every disaster response. There is no way they could have orchestrated this. There is much evil in this world and sometimes, sadly, things are what they appear to be. 

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 14:07 | 3480733 Dangertime
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As if we don't have enough anti-white misandry running around, now we need some of this.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 17:54 | 3481419 Ragnar24
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Yup. As if calculating probabilities isn't "thinking for yourself", i.e. you're a bigot and an unthinking fool if you look at the common characteristic that most bombers share: Islamic faith.

Not to mention that the white male in this propaganda piece didn't get busted for an act of terror. The incredulous female wasn't "profiling" the "arab" for drug trafficking -- she was scared that he had a bomb. In other words, the white male getting busted for drugs is a strawman in this argument. (because no one is suggesting that white males shouldn't be treated the same as an arab when it comes to all other crimes).

And by the way, I think America has instigated these attacks by waging unconstitutional/undeclared wars, but it is absolutely moronic to propose that Muslims should NOT be profiled. They have a solid track record by which they should be judged. Just like America's political/military leadership should be held accountable for starting this fight sometime before the CIA led coup of Mosaddegh in 1953.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 00:16 | 3482599 o2sd
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i.e. you're a bigot and an unthinking fool if you look at the common characteristic that most bombers share: Islamic faith.

I think you will find that most bombers have no faith at all, and roll off the assembly line of Boeing, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon et all.

And by the way, I think America has instigated these attacks by waging unconstitutional/undeclared wars, but it is absolutely moronic to propose that Muslims should NOT be profiled. They have a solid track record by which they should be judged.

Care to detail this 'track record'? Care to place it against the track record of the US Government? How about the Irish? Or the Tamils? Or any number of terrorist organisations trained in the US?


Sun, 04/21/2013 - 12:07 | 3480297 john39
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israeli doctors treating bombing suspect....

but these are not the droids you are looking for...


Sun, 04/21/2013 - 12:12 | 3480311 Ident 7777 economy
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You wanted the best, didn't you?


BTW, who do you think works at the "Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center" anyway?





/mild sarc tag (in case you need it)


Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:20 | 3480541 Pharming
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Can we please get back to what is going to destroy more lives around the globe than a few nutjobs with pressure cookers and a few nutjobs in the whitehouse??  The globalists / bankers / elite are destroying the world financially which WILL cost millions of lives.  This petty shit is a distraction.  The economy is collapsing before our eyes...does anyone agree?  I feel horrible and saddened for anyone here or abroad that has or will lose their lives or limbs by foreign bombers or even our own government bombers.  But there is a larger force behind all of this.  And it's evil.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:25 | 3480585 jbvtme
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place is a shithouse.  what's mom's take on that?

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:29 | 3480596 A Lunatic
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Although not obvious at times, it's all interconnected. The actions of a few nut jobs with pressure cookers/guns will serve to empower the nut jobs in the White House with more Police State, surveillance, drones, internet restrictions, etc, etc, etc, which all prevents taxpayer funds from being applied to productive measures; for example, I find it strange that we cannot afford to have a tour guide at the White House, but we can send 250 million taxpayer dollars to Syrian Rebels.........

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:44 | 3480663 agNau
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Wait, where was the NRA manual?

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 14:43 | 3480846 Paveway IV
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It's under the bomb-making paint roller tray, right next to the bomb-making sanded grout. 

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 16:12 | 3481096 Iwanttoknow
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Also copies of koran,books on boston marathon and check's cashed by cia.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:42 | 3480646 Offthebeach
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Well he could have been taken to any of those mooslim hospi.
Never mind.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 12:13 | 3480323 A Lunatic
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They are probably just making sure his voice box never ever, ever, works again..........

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 12:53 | 3480457 Ident 7777 economy
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What about his fingers? I'm sure he could still draw stick figures in the sand or tap out 'names' on a board with his knuckles ... 

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:15 | 3480533 A Lunatic
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I'm quite certain there is a taxpayer subsidized program to teach sign language as part of an occupational training for displaced workers program. If not there sure ought to be............

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:16 | 3480540 Mactheknife
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Last night, one of the news networks replayed all of the police communication from the boat scene.  The local cops had the boat surrounded and were told to do nothing until the FBI got there. The FBI showed up and had the local guys pull back at which point all hell broke loose. It was pretty clear the FBI wanted this guy dead.  There was never any mention that the suspect had any type of weapon with him or in the boat.

Yahoo just reported that 60 Minutes was planning on doing a piece tonight on the video of those "contractors" at the scene with large black backpacks and Navy Seal ballcaps on...60 Minutes has had its Twitter feed hacked and suspended.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:24 | 3480580 The Big Ching-aso
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Shit.    What are they gonna do turn this into a museum?.....


"And over here we have a crock pot..........."




Sun, 04/21/2013 - 15:37 | 3480998 Paveway IV
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That's actually a terrorist rice cooker in the picture.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 12:26 | 3480363 nmewn
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Do you see Israeli's in your sleep too?

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:16 | 3480545 Cloud9.5
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There was this one girl. Oh crap.  Honey I forgot you were standing next to me.  It was after all a very long time ago.  I know.  I'm gonna sleep on the couch.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:19 | 3480551 francis_sawyer
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Must be nice to be in a position where you've layed down the propaganda so thick, for so long, that people go out of their way to carry your water for free...


I'd say that I ought to study & learn that technique [& use it to my paranoid/greedy advantage]... But in the end, it would just make me an @sshole that everybody, sooner or later, despises...

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:28 | 3480592 nmewn
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What the hell are you talking about francis?...I'm doing the exact opposite of what you do 95% of the time. Sucks huh?

Is it or is it not a favorite pass time of yours to see everything through the prism of, how can I make this about Israel or jooos?

It doesn't matter what it is...banks, politics, bombings, sports, can be any damned thing.

Fuck off.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:41 | 3480639 ronaldawg
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So Francis doesn't like joos - what does that matter?

Back on subject:  Apparently the two DID NOT rob the convenience store - there is store cam footage of someone else doing it.  I hope that the Daily News didn't print this in the last two days - how can they be so wrong.

Also the messy apartment is normal for a 26 year old and 19 year old.  What do you call 26 year old that keeps a clean apartment?  GAY.

Moreover, the photos have to be after the police tore it apart.  Right?  The police throw shit everywhere.

These photos indicate a problem with the narrative of the police and the MSM - that they were working alone.  If there are no bomb parts in the apartment (and no place to put them together), WHERE DID THEY do it?  Another location with the brothers limited funds SCREAMS that there are more people involved.  The Boston Mayor/liar is standing by his assertion that they are working alone.  The police/FBI are lying.




Sun, 04/21/2013 - 14:10 | 3480753 New_Meat
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"The Boston Mayor/liar is standing by his assertion that they are working alone."

You didn't decipher Mumbonics correctly; Mumbonics is a language that takes years to master.  Basically, Mumbonics, when well understood, requires that you take the exact opposite of what Mumblez is saying,  if it is to be interpreted correctly.  Then there are these gems:

  • "hanging like an alcatraz around our necks..."
  • "ionic moments in Boston sports history..."
  • "Varitek splitting the uprights..."
  • "We'll be just fine" {oh, no, that was the Devaluator, my bad}

Used to be a website filled with 'em

- Ned

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 14:37 | 3480835 ronaldawg
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I stand corrected.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 16:19 | 3480943 francis_sawyer
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"Is it or is it not a favorite pass time of yours to see everything..."


I'll use the Jeff Spicoli to Mr. Hand defense...

"I Don't Know"...

I don't know anything about 'PASS TIME'S'... I have heard of 'PASTIMES'... as in...


pas·time  (pstm)n. An activity that occupies one's spare time pleasantly:


One of which ~ growing food ~ I have been actively engaged in most of the early afternoon [which explains the delayed reply]...


That... I consider a Pastime... One which produces material results I might add...

- It gives me a leg up on being able to eat something other than my iPhone after the joobuck usury system collapses

- It allows me to skirt the jew concieved Monsanto frankenfoods

- It keeps me from watching jew TV

- It, in the past, has allowed me to get relative BARGAINS by funneling my joobux into productive means

- It keeps me otherwise occupied so I'm not interested in borrowing money [from jew bankers] to keep up with the 'Jones-Steins' who bought the Beemer on credit...

- I'm sure there are other things as well... Shit... But I'm kinda busy... Do you realize that for the past 2 weeks, I've spent the LIONS SHARE of my time digging up stuff, or transplanting stuff, to give away... FOR FREE... To people who live around me?... Lotsa herbs... Oregano, Tarragon, Thyme, Chives, Spring Onions, Spinach, Swiss Chard, Cilantro, Garlic, Various flowers, [Snap Dragons, Tulips, Daffodils, Columbines, Flax], Parsley, Dill, Basil, Rosemary, Broccoli Rabe...

THAT is my pastime... They're THRILLED about the FREEBIES... Jew bankers?... Not so much [because nobody is going into debt by getting freebies from francis_sawyer]...


Now ~ Shall we discuss the 'Platt Amendment'?

Footnote: JEWS... LOL... I'm not interested in enslaving them, hustling them into camps, or even spray painting graffitti on their temples... I AM interested, however, in whatever means necessary to PREVENT them from doing that to me [which they seem to be actively engaged in, full court press style, at the moment]...

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 17:40 | 3481374 nmewn
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"...through the prism of, how can I make this about Israel or jooos?"

...was the rest of it. 

But why clip it off there, to engage as a grammar nazi?...well thats And you wildly exceeded my expectations with this new screed.

In truth, it gets really REALLY old francis. I don't bring it up much, everyone has a right to their opinion however hysterical it may be...but you don't get to scream jooo!!! all the time and have no one notice you're acting like a damned fool.

It would be like me coming on here and comparing Sharia with "progressive" wouldn't it?

Come to think of it, maybe I will ;-)

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 17:56 | 3481413 francis_sawyer
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Go for it... [compare 'Sharia' with 'progressive']... WTF do I care, or preside over?


It's OLDER than you & me both [or NOT... depending on where you stand]...

I can put on my 'Highlander' tags & wield some beaten down iron any time you wish... It's a tiring game, [just like someone carrying 'someone else's water], but somebody's got 2 play it I suppose...

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 18:24 | 3481494 nmewn
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Well, why not.

Sharia is the same as "progressive" in many respects. It is a religion (the worship of Gaia) and imposes this dogma through the state. Just like Sharia Law. Let someone say (to the statist mutaween) that they have no right to tell them they can't cut down a tree on their own property and see what happens. The full phalanx of imams will descend from the minarets above the MSM mosques on the poor hapless property owner.

In Maryland they propose (or have enacted) a tax on rain. Think about that, a gift from "Allah-Gaia" is to be taxed for the greater good of the

It doesn't get anymore distorted than that.

Strap up ;-)

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 18:39 | 3481540 New_Meat
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we had our first really good spring weekend-day yesterday, here in the Commonwealth.  gnats everywhere, no-seeumz, you get the picture, living in a land where the seasons don't kill/suppress all of the tiny insect vermin,  sometimes we get a break.

But a 'skosh fun in this exchange, I'd try to bring it out here:


don't cha' know.

- Ned

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 18:52 | 3481572 nmewn
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Tough crowd, just the way I like it ;-)

So, ummm, no ones brought up the older brothers trip back to Chechnya last year, where he went, who he met and what he did while over there...some sort of PC thought police blockade or sumpin...cuz, ya know, they're such nice boys.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 19:05 | 3481614 francis_sawyer
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Let's put this to rest [which is IMPOSSIBLE, but WTF?]...


1. They're Chechnian assholes, who from their mother's womb, dream about bombing runners at a Marathon finish line, conveniently located at '666' Boylston St., on 'Patriots Day', in BASTIN...

2. They're patsies... Probably with some guilt attached, recruited by a para military thug system, [probably peppered with jews], to play a role in carrying out an agenda driven event [whereby the ONLY beneficiaries are THE STATE, which represents the means by which they are gainfully employed in a failing economy]...


Sun, 04/21/2013 - 19:22 | 3481669 nmewn
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Chechnya & Dagestan are predominately Islamic...thats where Tamerlan Tsarnaev (known here as "older brother") went last year for six months.

Now, I don't know what "peppered with jews" winds up meaning in your world/head. Are you saying he met with para-military thugs led by Jews while over there or what?

That would certainly be news to Chechians & Dags...and his imam back here ;-)

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 19:53 | 3481741 francis_sawyer
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'peppered with jews' refers to the alphabet soup agencies that YOUR tax dollars support in this godforsaken country that once upon a time stood for something...


Tamerlan Tsarnaev,,, [aka: A MATERNAL SERVANT]... or, his brother... A JOKER...

These are just tests to see how actually stupid the serf are which populate your land... You know ~ the types that wave American Flags, & hold up signs that say "THANK YOU POLICE" in the moment after all their Constitutitional righjts have been YANKED from them...


KY till the day I die!


Fuck this... Let's make it even simpler...


If you DON'T... & believe THIS bullshit... Then you, who were once 'hopeful', are now, instead, hopelessly lost... TIME has worn you down...



Sun, 04/21/2013 - 20:02 | 3481788 nmewn
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God foresaken, so you're religious or a turn of phrase? And you misspelled "Constitutitional righjts"...both of them, not to be a grammar/spelling nazi or anything...but live by the sword, die by 

Just so you know, I quit reciting the pledge of allegiance at an early age as soon as I saw the indoctrination part of it, the government public school teacher was mortified by it of parents, not so much...a balance was struck for this elementary school student, I would stand with the class (out of respect) but I would not place hand over heart or recite it.

I think she just didn't like me sitting there, staring at her.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 08:30 | 3483198 Clashfan
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He's never been a 911 truther, Francis. And if this guy on the right isn't a Mossad agent, I'd be surprised.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 22:39 | 3482376 Clashfan
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a spat between Nmewn and Francis. Gee.

Anyone else care or taking sides?

Me? Not really, but I know Nmewn is a 911 truth denier. Can't stand those.

So I'll side w/Francis. My guess is he's not a 911 truth denier. Just a guess, though.

I have a hard time  believing that 911 truth deniers are genuine about anything, sorry.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 22:47 | 3482407 i-dog
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Sun, 04/21/2013 - 23:02 | 3482444 TuPhat
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I actually enjoy reading both Nmewn and Francis comments on this thread and many others.  They keep me thinking.  I am quite sure that if we ever find out exactly what happened at the Boston Marathon or on 911 then the real perpetrators will have failed.  My gut feeling is that these brothers were dupes.  They may have done the bombing but if so they had help from others, probably within the guvmint.  They didn't realize that they were expected to take the fall or they wouldn't have stayed in Mass.  If he lives, the younger brother will never tell the truth.  He might even confess to keep those he cares about alive.  Wait for the book or the movie to come out and we will know the official version of the story.  Oops I forgot to use TOR

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 06:48 | 3482963 nmewn
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"Me? Not really, but I know Nmewn is a 911 truth denier. Can't stand those.

So I'll side w/Francis."

Well, color me shocked that a 911 hysteric would side with a bigot like francis. No conspiracy is too far fetched to not include the jooo's somehow in it. I'm actually quite surprised idog doesn't say its the

Sooo, ummm, I suppose finding iron oxide & aluminum dust wasn't the breakthrough "smoking gun" to proving nono-thermite you moron 911 quacks thought it shouldn't have skipped so many chemistry classes, you might have learned a thing or two about what would be found at just pulverized buildings.


Sun, 04/21/2013 - 23:27 | 3482502 aerojet
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How can someone be a patsy if they were seen carrying the bags that contained the explosive devices, at the scene of the crime, and further, they were seen dropping the bags and then leaving?  That's not patsy at that point.  

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 01:05 | 3482662 Clashfan
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1) They can be mind controlled. It's very real.

2) They can be part of a drill, believing that what they're carrying is not a real bomb.

3) They can be part of a drill, and could have dropped backpacks that weren't bombs at all but later framed.

4) What evidence other than one eyewitness, is there that either brother left a bomb anywhere? how reliable is this eyewitness?

5) Who and what were all of those paramilitary guys with backpacks?

6) The younger brother's backpack did not have the white square that is clearly visible on the pics of the exploded backpack, but the dark-skinned guy who looks like a Mossad agent sure had a white square on his. Look at the pics.

7) They could have been willing participants who were goaded into this by the FBI. That is a pattern we've seen before.

IF they were the real bombers, we should have VIDEO of them leaving backpacks and those backpacks exploding. Do we have that yet? I haven't seen it. That doesn't mean we don't have it or that others haven't seen it. I just know that I haven't yet.


Mon, 04/22/2013 - 03:05 | 3482809 awakening
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From London to Boston, quite the explosive encore.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 16:17 | 3481107 azzhatter
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Boston police chief looks like he never missed a donut stop

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 12:37 | 3480404 Blazed
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Great for their organ trafficking tendencies, or is that tendoncies!

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 16:24 | 3481131 PhilofOz
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If I'm running a book on whether this guy will live long enough to defend himself, I'll give 5/1 against. 

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 17:12 | 3481273 DeadFred
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61.8% chance he doesn't make it. I asked Mr. Fibonnaci.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 12:13 | 3480316 dick cheneys ghost
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Kim Jong Un bought bitcoin at $260..........he ficking pissed!

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:15 | 3480532 francis_sawyer
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Wickit pissed!

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 12:51 | 3480447 Edward Fiatski
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"Officials: There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities."

Dated 12:53 PM - 15 Apr 13

The finish line explosion was directly opposite the Boston library.


Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:17 | 3480544 Got_Nukes
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I looked at the twitter feed and the time stamp is 2:53 not 12:53.  Don't use this link, search boston globe twitter.  You will find this tweet at 2:53.  Do your own research before you post garbage.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:22 | 3480569 tip e. canoe
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is not the link posted above directly from b.globe's twitter feed?

if so, then it says 12:53, not 2:53.

the tweet is no longer available on b.globe's twitter roll, so impossible to prove or disprove.

so why should one obey your edict "Don't use this link" again?

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:33 | 3480608 Got_Nukes
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Here is the link I used.  Using a desktop I can't go back far enough to get this post.  Using a mobile device you can go back to this feed.  Clearly says 2:53, after the 2 explosions.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:40 | 3480629 tip e. canoe
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it actually says 7:53 p.m. on your link.   so we now have a FUDalicious 3 separate timestamps, 2 linked, 1 claimed.   

EDIT:  just clicked yours again, it now says 11:53 p.m.  meanwhile the link that Ed posted keeps saying 12:53 p.m. no matter how many clicks.

things that make you go HMMMMMM....

EDIT:  just clicked yours again, it now says 5:53!

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:42 | 3480647 tip e. canoe
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Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:43 | 3480652 tip e. canoe
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maybe you want to check out the accuracy of your link?   looks like the clock is screwy...

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:47 | 3480669 tip e. canoe
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7:53 again

damn guess those officials just didn't know what time to do that "controlled explosion".

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:46 | 3480670 Got_Nukes
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Says 2:53 everytime I click it.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:49 | 3480674 tip e. canoe
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well i guess we'll have to let it up to the peanut gallery to decide then

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:54 | 3480694 Got_Nukes
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Just changed the time on my PC and the timestamp changed to 3:53.  So you can change the time to whatever you want by changing the time on your computer.  Try it.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 14:01 | 3480712 tip e. canoe
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i'm not even changing my clock and i'm getting different readings.    latest says 9:53 a.m.   ed's link stays consistent at 12:53 p.m.

now, not that this is a competition or anything, but which link would any gumshoe worth his salt consider more reliable, the mobile link or the one Ed posted?

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 14:02 | 3480713 12ToothAssassin
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differing timezone offsets

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 14:02 | 3480710 12ToothAssassin
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Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:27 | 3480588 Edward Fiatski
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I'm very disappointed that you're a clueless clown, but It Is What It Is.

Care for a jog next time such a Tweet/EXERCISE takes place?

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:45 | 3480664 Got_Nukes
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If you remove "mobile" from my link, the timestamp changes to 12:53.  Or add "mobile" to your link.   I don't use twitter.  Why the discrepancy from the mobile link and the desktop link?

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:49 | 3480679 tip e. canoe
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that's an excellent question...

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:51 | 3480687 Got_Nukes
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We are linking to the same feed.  I'm just using mobile.  Look at the numbers at the end of the link. Same same.   323886879453892609

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 14:12 | 3480751 Got_Nukes
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Ignore the timestamp.  Use the mobile feed and you can follow the sequence of events.  Two explosions are first.  Many tweets after the initial explosion is the controlled explosion warning by the BPD.

IF you use the desktop feed, it stops before the initial explosions.


Sun, 04/21/2013 - 14:50 | 3480869 tip e. canoe
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Sun, 04/21/2013 - 14:50 | 3480872 tip e. canoe
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i see it now.   that tweet Ed was referring to is definitely in the twitter feed after-in-real-time (or before in twitter-time) the 1st 2 explosions.    seems that there was a confusion even day of as to the timestamp.   must be a twitter bug.


lori@Larabina34      2 HOURS b4 the explosions?? How exactly does that happen?? 8:04 a.m. Tue, Apr 16; background-position: 0px -253px; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat;" title="Reply">; background-position: 0px -297px; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat;" title="Retweet">  Jessica Rabbit @TheLILRedRabbit 5d  it was 2 hrs after    


color me corrected

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 15:49 | 3481040 Got_Nukes
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You are correct

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 22:43 | 3482389 Clashfan
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I understand why the time stamp might be important and why it might be unreliable.

But what difference does it make? Why is the tweet there anyway, and who were all of those paramilitary assclowns the media ignores?

And how is it that DHS insider predicted this almost to a tee, from the incident around the time of the gold takedown to the Friday raid?

Why did the Boston courthouse go on lockdown right when infowars published all of those photos? Why did the initial reports of a suspect in custody get released and then retracted after the photos emerged?

How much does it take for folks to recognize a false flag?

Why did all of those armored vehicles roll out for one kid?

Clearly a test for how the public would respond to martial law. And now we know. They will bend right over for it without a peep.

Think more of this shit will happen? DUH

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 02:18 | 3482769 trader1
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9:53 PM - 15 Apr 13

that's the time that i see on the twitter feed...

looks like everyone gets a different time depending on your time zone...i'm in europe...

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:09 | 3480514 jonjon831983
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You forgot the Mississippi guy who was arrested and the texas fertilizer accident.


Plenty of noise all around.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 16:43 | 3481186 Freddie
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Hope & Chanech with a family of Chechen Muslim gypsy gangsters and possible Al Qeada dupes.  WHat is the Saudi's connection?  The Saudi's family is connected to the Saudi royals and also Al Qeada.

Why is the USA newsmedia ingoring all this?  For our Baby Allah teleprompter?

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 22:45 | 3482396 Clashfan
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Freddie, do you know who the "Saudi royals" really are, where they came from, what their bloodline really is, and who put them in power? Just curious, not heckling.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 21:54 | 3482227 deKevelioc
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Boston bombers: FBI hunting 12-strong terrorist “sleeper cell” linked to brothers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev

Check out all the latest News, Sport & Celeb gossip at 

Sleeper cell?  I think we'll find American names, wearing badges and living at Langley addresses.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 11:47 | 3480217 Jumbotron
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C:'mon miscrent.  These pigfuckers are mostly found i. shit hole hovels.  They have no personal pride, they have no self esteem, they are losers and they know it.  However, unlike our domstic losers who blame everyone else including America for their ills and line up for government goodies, these swine decide to blow up children.  And now comes word they were part of a 12 man sleeper cell.  Well...well.  when youre already a loser with no hope of living to a ripe old age....would YOU keep a neat house?


Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:13 | 3480527 TBT or not TBT
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Tamerlane scored a younger Christian American girl as a wife and has a three year old kid. Not a loser, or über loser, the wife too? When the FBI picked her up she was wearing a hijab. She converted to Muhammad the 13th century butt bothering thieving pedophile murderer-prophet's tyrannical moon god cult. So, losers angle holding pretty well

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 17:20 | 3481307 Oleander
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Her parents put their house up for sale yesterday. They need to get that baby away from the media circus.  I am sure the neighbors appreciate it too.


Sun, 04/21/2013 - 18:16 | 3481472 azusgm
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So who was Tamerlan's girlfriend who was the object of his domestic violence? Was it his wife? Or was it another woman he was courting to become another of four wives?

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 23:30 | 3482513 aerojet
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Seems like she is none too bright, then.  

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 11:46 | 3480219 GaryNeville
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A can of gas and motor oil!!!!!


They must be terrorists....!

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 11:49 | 3480230 Pseudo Anonym
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If they have been framed, this would be evidence in that direction. The place is a bachelor nothingburger

this doesnt look like a bomb making center.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 11:53 | 3480244 blindman
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you didn't notice the rice on the plate?

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 18:35 | 3481531 Likstane
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yeah...right next to the ham sandwich.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 11:54 | 3480248 Ident 7777 economy
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The 'bomb making center' was located 'off site'.



Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:11 | 3480520 jonjon831983
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Holy crap... were they in mobile trailers?

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 12:59 | 3480481 Winston Churchill
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Not that I would know but HE are usualy made somewhere else than where you live.

The early accidents the DuPonts ,and Nobel had are salutary.Plus the fumes if it accidently

cooks off ,because of inadequate cooling, are lethal.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 23:32 | 3482515 aerojet
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They didn't make HE, though.  Those bombs were firecracks, imitation claymores.  Nothing more.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 11:56 | 3480259 A Lunatic
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They had a fucking crockpot. Everyone knows they are the gateway device to bigger and badder culinary destructive devices.........

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 12:31 | 3480370 nmewn
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Great, now I've got to stock up on Martha Stewart Living shit before the prices skyrocket ;-)

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:17 | 3480543 TBT or not TBT
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I'd like to own a coxcomb topiary, for the chuckle it would provide. Harmless elaborate nonsense warms my heart, because there is so much of the harmful kind running amok.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 12:32 | 3480381 JR
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David Lory VanDerBeek, the Independent American Party candidate for Governor of Nevada in the 2014 elections, asks:

What are the statistical odds that the police will be running a drill/training exercise at the same exact location and at the same time that the terrorist attack actually occurs?  Why doesn’t the damage of the explosion match that of a pressure cooker filled with nails and ball bearings…?

“If the government was running a bomb-drill training exercise in Boston (with bomb sniffing dogs)  …at the exact location at the time of the terrorist attack, (A) they [the government] did it…

Says Lory VanDerBeek in this YouTube Video:

“Here’s an important safety tip:

Wherever the FBI or police or the DHS are running a terror drill, run like hell in the opposite direction…because, they kill people.”

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 16:10 | 3481091 Poor Grogman
Sun, 04/21/2013 - 23:34 | 3482516 aerojet
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Again, I ask, how do you refute the eyewitnesses?

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 12:33 | 3480382 Beam Me Up Scotty
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This has to be all a big misunderstanding.  They were probably carrying something that they had for dinner a few months earlier, because they were going to eat it for lunch that day.  You know, leftovers shouldn't go to waste.  Went to the fridge and all that was left was a nice crockpot of "something".  How did they know it was going to blow up?

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:15 | 3480535 jonjon831983
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No... they ran out of Tabasco so they needed to go out and rob a convenience store for some.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 14:22 | 3480764 krispkritter
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Can't believe the number of retards who can't tell the difference between a crockpot or slow-cooker and a pressure cooker/canner. It's like the blonde retuning the microwave because it would only get the Food Network channel. The story on this stinks more everyday. Someone said Beck has info on that Saudi connection, sure hope that's not BS. SMD's, Saudi's of Mass Destruction, ha! PS. Thats not directed at you, ya friggin' Lunatic.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 12:28 | 3480366 fallingman
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And Dzhokhar may never be able to speak again, bitchez!

"Dr. Kevin (Ilan) Tabb, president and CEO of the Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston told the Israeli website Ynet that Tsarnaev is in stable condition but that because of wounds to his throat, he may never be able to speak again."

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 12:32 | 3480376 IridiumRebel
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Surely someone can write for him.....

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 12:47 | 3480439 JR
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And who could verify the reply if there is no legal counsel and/or Obama engages torture? Our court system? Eric Holder? This government uses the law for despotism; to enforce their own principles of morality. This government says the end -dictatorship - justifies the means, be they torture, assassinations, bombs, imprisonment without trial, millions lying dead in foreign lands.

In short, Obama will authorize our "freedoms." The Constitution lies dead.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 12:34 | 3480388 nmewn
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Quick, break his hands & fingers, pluck out his eyes and puncture his ear drums so he can't communicate!

All aboard the crazy train.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 14:07 | 3480735 A Lunatic
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Sun, 04/21/2013 - 14:09 | 3480744 Common_Cents22
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There was a report that the authorities basically had to scoop him up out of the boat which is consistent w/ some of the video showing him laying in the same spot the whole time.   

But there is a pic of him straddling the side of the boat like he was getting out on his own power.   

Another report said he may have shot himself producing the throat injury.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 15:52 | 3481055 azzhatter
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knew that was coming

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 17:01 | 3481239 Freddie
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I am not going to the link but the link says Israeli doctors?  Boston has no non-Israeli doctors? 

Any relation to the Israeli police who were flying into to help out of the blue.   Did German, Italian, British, and Russian police just decide to fly over to help too?


Sun, 04/21/2013 - 18:34 | 3481522 Henry Hub
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***Dr. Kevin (Ilan) Tabb, president and CEO of the Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston told the Israeli website Ynet that Tsarnaev is in stable condition but that because of wounds to his throat, he may never be able to speak again."***

...and they are removing his kidneys, liver and spleen and any other organs they have orders for. If you remove the organs while they're still alive they keep better. They learned this treating Palestinians in Israel.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:07 | 3484657 HedgeCock
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"And Dzhokhar may never be able to speak again, bitchez!"

...oh oh, so much for his rap aspirations.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 15:48 | 3481033 azzhatter
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I blame Bernanke

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 11:28 | 3480154 ParkAveFlasher
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Can someone tell me what color were the skidmarks on the toilet seat?  I think it's relevant.

Obama declared these men guilty on national tv.  Might as well sort through the minutiea [sp].

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 11:34 | 3480179 IridiumRebel
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minutia(good word though)

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 11:48 | 3480222 icanhasbailout
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Sun, 04/21/2013 - 11:56 | 3480252 Croesus
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Long Grammar Nazi's!


(Let's see if they catch it).

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 18:41 | 3481541 Henry Hub
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***Long Grammar Nazi's!***


OK it should be - Nazis'

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 12:07 | 3480294 IridiumRebel
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minutia   plural of mi·nu·ti·ae Noun
  • Trivial details of something.
  • I guess we are both right. You can has grammar nazi with me.


Sun, 04/21/2013 - 12:09 | 3480306 Croesus
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@ Iridium Rebel:

Haha +1, but you missed mine.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 12:17 | 3480335 MsCreant
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I didn't!

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 12:58 | 3480473 gmrpeabody
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not zees... plural, meaning not the ones you're looking for.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 17:04 | 3481244 Freddie
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Minuet -

A minuet, also spelled menuet, is a social dance of French origin for two people, usually in 3/4 time.

aka same old f**king false flag song and dance from the elites.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 14:39 | 3480838 ronaldawg
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Black fungus in the shitter is a sign of ALLAH.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 17:05 | 3481247 Freddie
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Allah be praised!

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 11:49 | 3480229 ThisIsBob
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Rember when Nixon caught all kinds of hell for doing the same thing?

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 15:53 | 3481057 azzhatter
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Charlie Manson

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 13:22 | 3480568 TBT or not TBT
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Obama declares all sorts of things on TV, from cliches to smears to calculated lies mixed in with the great volume of stupid and nonsensical. He's got to be angry this shit is distracting Him.

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 11:40 | 3480198 Jumbotron
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Yeah...have said this before.  Your wasting your breath.  Tyler like everyone on the web lives and dies by the clicks.  He knows his audience.  Don't get me wrong.  ZeroHedge has for years been the first site i wake up to and go to bed to.  This is really the only place on the web to track the banksters plans for the world and the delusional machinations of rulers and politicians.  However,  just like Rupert Murdoch doesnt give a shit for Christans or Christianity, and is every bit the elitist scum that his liberal cohorts are, he knows his audience and knows what kind of red meat to give them to get what he wants and needs and that is eyeballs on tv and clicks on his websites.  Same with Tyler.  It is a shame...really.  It dilutes the strength of his site at revealing the cockroach world of the banksters.  But like with Drudge and his stories of mummified hoaorders amongst trash and 125 have to just ignore the crap and move on to the stories and insights that really matter.


Sun, 04/21/2013 - 11:57 | 3480238 Ident 7777 economy
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" Your wasting your breath.  "


Grammar fail; should have ('should of' in staying with the vernacular of the day?) used "You're" in the above dummy ...


Sun, 04/21/2013 - 15:15 | 3480932 Spinelli
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Know won gives a fuck....

Did i make yew twich? Stupid grammer notsee

Sun, 04/21/2013 - 15:17 | 3480938 New_Meat
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The "Grammar Nazi" warning light is flashing ;-)

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!