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Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Charged With Using Weapon Of Mass Destruction, To Face Death Penalty

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Update: just out from Boston is news that Tsarnaev has been charged with conspiring to use weapons of mass destruction against US persons and property, resulting in death. He will face the death penalty.

Moments ago, in addition to White House spokesman John Carney announcing Boston bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who became a US citizen several years ago, will not be treated as an enemy combatant and that he has just been charged under seal, the FBI released a "status update" on his health condition, which is listed as "serious."

Update on Condition of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev
FBI Boston April 22, 2013    

 

Special Agent Greg Comcowich (617) 223-6110

 

According to Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev remains in serious condition. The FBI is releasing this information at the request of the hospital.

At least nobody can accuse the FBI of speaking too much, as neither can J-kar, whose throat wound is preventing him from speaking at all, but from what we understand he is communicating through writing. 

From The Hill:

The White House said Monday it will not treat the surviving suspect in the Boston Marathon attack as an enemy combatant.

 

White House press secretary Jay Carney said that Boston suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev would be tried as a terrorist in the federal court system.

 

“This is absolutely the right way to go and the appropriate way to go,” Carney said a Monday’s White House press briefing.

 

A number of Republicans have called on the Obama administration to declare Tsarnaev an enemy combatant and put him in military detention in order to gather intelligence from him.

 

““It is clear the events we have seen over the past few days in Boston were an attempt to kill American citizens and terrorize a major American city,” a group of GOP lawmakers led by Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said in a statement Saturday.

 

“The suspect, based upon his actions, clearly is a good candidate for enemy combatant status. We do not want this suspect to remain silent,” the senators said.

 

The Obama administration argues that it can gather intelligence from Tsarnaev in the federal system, and military detention is not necessary.

 

Carney listed off a number of prior cases, including the attempted Times Square bomber and “underwear bomber,” where federal interrogators gathered intelligence from the terrorism suspects.

 

Tsarnaev has not been read his Miranda rights yet, as the federal government has invoked an exemption that allows those rights to be waived temporarily when there is a threat to public safety. He remains in serious condition in a Boston hospital, according to the FBI.

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Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:16 | 3484353 Banksters
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Let me get this straight. The FBI interviewed Tamerlan and  his  family, were recently tipped off by Russia, and then needed the public's help in identifying them 

 

Police perform house to house raids in Watertown MA ripping innocent families from their homes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V4hB9zWi14

Woman calling into radio show saying first suspect was run over and shot BY police

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XoXo6X7Xuog

 


 

 

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:19 | 3484370 The Juggernaut
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"Deception is a state of mind and the mind of the State. ”

— James Angleton

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:23 | 3484391 Banksters
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Absolutely.  

 

I want to see the video of the suspects dropping their backpacks and fleeing the scene.  Lots of other questions as well.  In the background the trained monkeys bark "conspiracy theorist are nuts."  We've watched the bankers run wild without civil or criminal prosecution.  We've  seen the govt lie on multiple issues that have resulted in the loss of millions of lives.  As a sentient human being, I believe that claims require proof.

 

 

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:33 | 3484438 dryam
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I like how Eric Holder was so quick to say that the so-called Justice Department would deploy all possible resources to the Boston bombing, but they haven't done jack shit about all of the financial fraud over the past few years even though that fraud has caused large scale indirect loss of life & suffering across America.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:35 | 3484472 jbvtme
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it was a drill.  like sandy hook.  the only death which transpired was the constitution.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:41 | 3484501 Pladizow
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He'll contract a deadly infection that only targets muslims!

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:58 | 3484585 Bananamerican
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“The suspect, based upon his actions, clearly is a good candidate for enemy combatant status. We do not want this suspect to remain silent,” the GOP senators said."

Any zh wingers care to weigh in on this barbaric, unamerican POS statement?

Or is Due Process Of Law too much of an impediment to the electoral grandstanding of these fat-assed Team Red Fascists?

 

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:58 | 3484598 redpill
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Well the red fascists want to waterboard him, the blue fascists would have just shot him with a Hellfire missile to begin with.  Fascists, can't live with 'em, and you get due process without 'em!

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:01 | 3484607 Kitler
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The prosecutor is seeking the death penalty which only makes sense because stealing a $2.50 pair of socks already gets you 25 years to life in the USA.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/cruel-and-unusual-punishment-t...

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:01 | 3484623 redpill
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And by the way, since when is a small, improvized conventional explosive a WMD?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:07 | 3484655 smlbizman
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weapons of "mast" destruction.....it did take out a boat....

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:11 | 3484687 redpill
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Or maybe they meant the "shelter in place" manhunt lockdown prevented all the Boston catholics from attending mass, so they had to cancel it.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:26 | 3484772 idea_hamster
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I think the charge isn't "using" a WMD; it's "conspiring to use" a WMD.

For conspiracy, you only need to show the agreement and an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy.  So, really, we should expect this to turn on, e.g., evidence from their apartment that shows other types of plans -- dirty bomb, whatever.

Of course, they may have just changed the rules -- could be that, you know.....

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:11 | 3484977 toys for tits
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I maintain that this is an FBI sting gone wrong.  As you correctly point out the conspiracy charge, I believe the FBI was building a case against the older prior to last Monday and fucked the shit up.

In the alternative these boys were set up.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:21 | 3485317 Lost Word
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I doubt it. Look at the suspect's name Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. Almost said like "Joker".

Another "Batman" themed false flag attack with Hollywood movie theater foreknowledge.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 18:42 | 3485728 Stabile Eyes it
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F Hollywood. F their movies after the fact. They are way overpaid. F all the brash and brazen songs that are listened to and sold on this planet. Including those damn nasty rappers who diminish just about everyone. Look at the influence!!!

Stick to Jazz (created in America) and good movies, documentaries. Things that don't evoke riots. Where's the GOOD NEWS???

Do something positive. That song "Mother I'm a Criminal", along with its video, incites vulnerables. Shameful, although not a bad beat, but come on.

All people need to be and feel accepted. Shame on humankind. Also remember "Population Explosion" and "Healthy People 2010" ???  We are first conceived with neuro ... um brain cells...in place...then  the cardio enlarged heart kicks in...where is the research in neuro development/expansion...???

 

Wish I was a "Tuh-tle" ....zombie "tuh tle" that is...

Impeach Obama on something already.....holy shit...where is that saudi scum that was under surveillence and in the hospital under protection for anyway? We the people should know what the heck that was all about...

Oh, going back to da da... getting a security blanket....money in USA good for your protection?...SHIT... get rid of the money they have here...go into a phase where NO diplomatic immunity is done, get rid of anyone who doesn't become an American citizen within one year of being here...keep questioning them and if they are shown via investigation/DEPORT THEM...we don't want anyone who doesn't want to be here! Mexicans getting into this country via the Texas ass wipes included. SHIT once again. 

Let drugs and the cartels and Columbia go to HELL...

Develop riches in America...solar power/fuel cells/wind and water. Forget oil. NOT A RENEWABLE RESOURCE!!!

Isolation Country ... forget everyone else and create jobs HERE.

BRING IT ON !!!

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 23:07 | 3486581 StychoKiller
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So, anyone know what Glenn Beck had to say today?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:28 | 3485346 Antifaschistische
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Here’s the defense:

 

·         His now DEAD brother masterminded the whole thing

·         He didn’t even know what was in the backpacks

·         He followed his brother religiously

·         He put the backpack where his brother told him to and walked away

·         He had no intention of ever hurting anyone

·         When he found out what happened, he was angry, depressed and suicidal

·         He did not want to spend the rest of his life in prison…but he still went along with his older, very domineering brother

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 17:07 | 3485492 Cathartes Aura
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wonder how the pic showing him leaving the area WITH the pack ON his back, the *blast* in clear view is going to fit into that narrative.

the story was link'd was in a previous day's thread, but here's a link to the actual video.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 19:13 | 3485814 Stabile Eyes it
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asshole...just look at your photo image/you kill

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 22:29 | 3486431 JeffB
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Per one of the Tylers' posts yesterday, per one source, there was no evidence of bomb making materials, weapons etc. at the bachelor pad:

Inside Ground Zero: Photos From The Suspects' Apartment

"...In other words, typical bachelor squalor, but that's about it. Most notably: not a trace of any explosive, incendiary or other bomb-preparing equipment or residue, no evidence of terrorist activity, and no weapons. So where did the two put together the numerous bombs they are said to have prepared?..."

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:11 | 3484669 Bananamerican
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Ball Bearings? I'd say that qualifies....

But it's the "Mass destruction" of our American culture, traditions and LAWS that disturbs me FAR MORE than the actions of some alleged Terrorist...Those we can survive, but the wanton destruction of Constitutional protections, those we cannot survive.

Put the guy on trial. Prove his guilt before a jury of his peers or just run up a swastika flag over the Capital and get it over with.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:11 | 3484680 redpill
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Ball bearings are not mass destruction.  In the past that label has been reserved for nuke/chem/bio weapons that have the ability to cause, you know, mass destruction.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:57 | 3484796 smlbizman
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and has any body found any nails and ball bearings,,,the pressure cooker should had at least dents from them if not shredded...im going flash pots....the fake wheel chair guy, i will post link...link has an internal 500 currently....so i cant......and if we want to find nails if any all i have to do is drive my truck thru there one time...my tires are nail magnets

message comming up now site off line...we saw it...were the amputee had those fake shreds on and the cowboy hat guy...rolling down the road in a wheelchair..yee-hah..no blood on his shirt but legs are shredded....enough of us saw this...found another source

http://buelahman.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/are-you-just-a-believer-or-do-...

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:42 | 3484866 Sofa King Confused
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" Come on guys, its all ball bearings nowadays "  Fletch

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:01 | 3484943 Totentänzerlied
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A bomb is not a WMD. Every military in the world has access to things 100 times more powerful than a pressure cooker bomb. Total, complete, utter bullshit.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:12 | 3484990 toys for tits
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Agreed, but the bombing last Monday is not the charge.

They must have found other evidence about the conspiracy to get a WMD.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:34 | 3485070 redpill
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Right.  Let me guess, yellowcake in Nigeria?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:50 | 3485154 pods
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Now all they need is a google search for same.

Probably had contact with the Nigerian Minister of Minerals too. Sent him money and everything!

pods

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:33 | 3485363 BoNeSxxx
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But but but,... They said that Saddam didn't have WMDs.  After they said he did.

Turns out he really did all along... I hear he enjoyed Bameih cooked in a crock pot.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 22:34 | 3486451 JeffB
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"They must have found other evidence about the conspiracy to get a WMD."

So they're all a bunch of conspiracy theorists, eh?

Rather ironic methinks.

 

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 23:02 | 3486565 JeffB
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"Agreed, but the bombing last Monday is not the charge.

They must have found other evidence about the conspiracy to get a WMD."

Apparently the bombing last Monday is the charge.

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev charged with using ‘weapon of mass destruction’

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/alleged-bombers-aunt-tamerlan-tsarnaev-was-religious-but-not-radical/2013/04/22/ca8f3214-ab5c-11e2-a198-99893f10d6dd_story.html

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 09:27 | 3485546 Urban Redneck
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Bush's braniacs were were the ones who couldn't come up with an intelligent definition of a WMD.  This was despite the fact that they supposedly knew exactly what they were looking for in Iraq...  

Barry- the current corrupt cocksucker, however, should do another serious and very public apology tour (complete with bowing) if he wants to run with that insane definition though, because the US did find  THOUSANDS OF HUGE STASHES OF WMDS ALL OVER IRAQ, if indeed that is what a WMD is...

However, no journey to Bizzaro World is complete without the following- while the device used may have legally been a WMD, depending on the powder used- it was not necessarily even an EXPLOSIVE device.  Or even more troubling, a drunk running someone over with a motor-vehicle or a New Yorker with a seven shot WMD legally authorized by Cornhole Cuomo himself could find themselves before a judge facing charges of using a WMD if any prosecutor is ever to get to the bottom of the thousands of pages of existing and conflicting laws, regulations, and treaty obligations which attempt to deal with several very distinct chemical reactions.

 

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:16 | 3485301 fuu
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DoChen has some 'splaining to do then as an arms dealer.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 19:09 | 3485804 Stabile Eyes it
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then he could be released and live next door to you...asshole

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:18 | 3484720 Poetic injustice
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Now every American has WMD in his house. Hell, even a car can explode with such strength as alleged "bomb".

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:25 | 3484750 TrumpXVI
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Yup.

Now, any sport shooter w/a reloading bench is a WMD manufacturer....how absurd is that?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:22 | 3484743 TrumpXVI
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Really, WMD?  Talk about shrill hyperbole.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:27 | 3484782 New_Meat
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They never mentioned the pressure cooker stockpiles that Saddam was building up.  Of course, with 14 months of sitzkreig, he had plenty of time to bury them in the Bekka' Valley, no sweat.

- Ned

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 19:06 | 3485797 Stabile Eyes it
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yes, and these mutants/no neuro growths/are continuing hating ... how nmany years now? 2000=? America wan't even in existence...Religious nutjobs

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:01 | 3485222 t0mmyBerg
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That was my question.  But in the US, the prosecutors have become zealots and rarely exercise proper discretion.  They will concoct all kinds of outrageous theories.  Clearly this is not a case of WMD usage.  To allege it is an outrage.  And the GOP morons calling for use of the NDAA of 2012 mechanism should be removed from office.  Violently if necessary.  US citizen gets US Constitutional rights.  Period.  Prosecute them and then kill them.  But do so in a way that complies with the Constitution.  Why do I get the feeling that we are screwed as a country?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:17 | 3485304 Lost Word
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According to the Treasonous Government, anything that explodes, bullet gunpowder, firecrackers, can be defined as a weapon of mass destruction. Just another pseudo-legal  excuse for Tyranny.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:05 | 3484642 quintago
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Did anybody else watch 60 Minutes last night? Let me get this straight, the guy has a bullet wound that entered through his mouth exited through the back of his neck, but somehow an FBI negotiator was able to talk him out of the boat?

Can somebody please tell me how a person shot through the mouth is able to stand up and get out of the boat? That's fucking amazing.

2nd point is that it was said that a shot was fired (presumably to kill himself if the first part is true) and the cops returned a bunch of fire. So a shot goes off and they light the place up like Christmas?

 

 

 

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:07 | 3484654 redpill
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The only realistic part is the cops managed to miss him enough times that he lived.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:08 | 3484673 TeamDepends
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That's one tough hombre who, as we speak, is getting a makeover complete with orange hair.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:18 | 3484734 augmister
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Didn't you know that cops are lousy shots?   See it all the time at my club.   BTW, 200 rounds fired at the Waterville "fire fight", the brother runs over the other brother and kills him, but gets away?  Nobody died of gunfire.   The Boston cops riddle a boat and still don't take the younger brother out?   Nobody died of gun fire.   Now you know why Janet, Mother of Homeland Security needs all those hollow tip bullets.   Nobody can shoot straight and/or hit anything.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:52 | 3484904 55 men
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Harry....Your alive...and your a horrible shot.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:15 | 3484999 toys for tits
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Because he didn't stand up straight and line up like their practice targets they couldn't hit him.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 17:13 | 3485508 Cathartes Aura
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when someone else *cough* taxpayers pays for your unlimited supply of bullets,  who needs to worry about targeting?

BANG BANG BANG!!!

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:19 | 3484735 McMolotov
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Not only did he shoot himself in the throat and climb out of the boat on his own, he also was "swearing profusely" in the ambulance, according to the LA Times.

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