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Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Charged With Using Weapon Of Mass Destruction, To Face Death Penalty

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Update: just out from Boston is news that Tsarnaev has been charged with conspiring to use weapons of mass destruction against US persons and property, resulting in death. He will face the death penalty.

Moments ago, in addition to White House spokesman John Carney announcing Boston bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who became a US citizen several years ago, will not be treated as an enemy combatant and that he has just been charged under seal, the FBI released a "status update" on his health condition, which is listed as "serious."

Update on Condition of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev
FBI Boston April 22, 2013    


Special Agent Greg Comcowich (617) 223-6110


According to Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev remains in serious condition. The FBI is releasing this information at the request of the hospital.

At least nobody can accuse the FBI of speaking too much, as neither can J-kar, whose throat wound is preventing him from speaking at all, but from what we understand he is communicating through writing. 

From The Hill:

The White House said Monday it will not treat the surviving suspect in the Boston Marathon attack as an enemy combatant.


White House press secretary Jay Carney said that Boston suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev would be tried as a terrorist in the federal court system.


“This is absolutely the right way to go and the appropriate way to go,” Carney said a Monday’s White House press briefing.


A number of Republicans have called on the Obama administration to declare Tsarnaev an enemy combatant and put him in military detention in order to gather intelligence from him.


““It is clear the events we have seen over the past few days in Boston were an attempt to kill American citizens and terrorize a major American city,” a group of GOP lawmakers led by Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said in a statement Saturday.


“The suspect, based upon his actions, clearly is a good candidate for enemy combatant status. We do not want this suspect to remain silent,” the senators said.


The Obama administration argues that it can gather intelligence from Tsarnaev in the federal system, and military detention is not necessary.


Carney listed off a number of prior cases, including the attempted Times Square bomber and “underwear bomber,” where federal interrogators gathered intelligence from the terrorism suspects.


Tsarnaev has not been read his Miranda rights yet, as the federal government has invoked an exemption that allows those rights to be waived temporarily when there is a threat to public safety. He remains in serious condition in a Boston hospital, according to the FBI.


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Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:16 | 3484353 Banksters
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Let me get this straight. The FBI interviewed Tamerlan and  his  family, were recently tipped off by Russia, and then needed the public's help in identifying them 


Police perform house to house raids in Watertown MA ripping innocent families from their homes

Woman calling into radio show saying first suspect was run over and shot BY police




Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:19 | 3484370 The Juggernaut
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"Deception is a state of mind and the mind of the State. ”

— James Angleton

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:23 | 3484391 Banksters
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I want to see the video of the suspects dropping their backpacks and fleeing the scene.  Lots of other questions as well.  In the background the trained monkeys bark "conspiracy theorist are nuts."  We've watched the bankers run wild without civil or criminal prosecution.  We've  seen the govt lie on multiple issues that have resulted in the loss of millions of lives.  As a sentient human being, I believe that claims require proof.



Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:33 | 3484438 dryam
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I like how Eric Holder was so quick to say that the so-called Justice Department would deploy all possible resources to the Boston bombing, but they haven't done jack shit about all of the financial fraud over the past few years even though that fraud has caused large scale indirect loss of life & suffering across America.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:35 | 3484472 jbvtme
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it was a drill.  like sandy hook.  the only death which transpired was the constitution.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:41 | 3484501 Pladizow
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He'll contract a deadly infection that only targets muslims!

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:58 | 3484585 Bananamerican
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“The suspect, based upon his actions, clearly is a good candidate for enemy combatant status. We do not want this suspect to remain silent,” the GOP senators said."

Any zh wingers care to weigh in on this barbaric, unamerican POS statement?

Or is Due Process Of Law too much of an impediment to the electoral grandstanding of these fat-assed Team Red Fascists?


Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:58 | 3484598 redpill
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Well the red fascists want to waterboard him, the blue fascists would have just shot him with a Hellfire missile to begin with.  Fascists, can't live with 'em, and you get due process without 'em!

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:01 | 3484607 Kitler
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The prosecutor is seeking the death penalty which only makes sense because stealing a $2.50 pair of socks already gets you 25 years to life in the USA.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:01 | 3484623 redpill
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And by the way, since when is a small, improvized conventional explosive a WMD?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:07 | 3484655 smlbizman
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weapons of "mast" did take out a boat....

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:11 | 3484687 redpill
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Or maybe they meant the "shelter in place" manhunt lockdown prevented all the Boston catholics from attending mass, so they had to cancel it.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:26 | 3484772 idea_hamster
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I think the charge isn't "using" a WMD; it's "conspiring to use" a WMD.

For conspiracy, you only need to show the agreement and an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy.  So, really, we should expect this to turn on, e.g., evidence from their apartment that shows other types of plans -- dirty bomb, whatever.

Of course, they may have just changed the rules -- could be that, you know.....

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:11 | 3484977 toys for tits
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I maintain that this is an FBI sting gone wrong.  As you correctly point out the conspiracy charge, I believe the FBI was building a case against the older prior to last Monday and fucked the shit up.

In the alternative these boys were set up.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:21 | 3485317 Lost Word
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I doubt it. Look at the suspect's name Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. Almost said like "Joker".

Another "Batman" themed false flag attack with Hollywood movie theater foreknowledge.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 18:42 | 3485728 Stabile Eyes it
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F Hollywood. F their movies after the fact. They are way overpaid. F all the brash and brazen songs that are listened to and sold on this planet. Including those damn nasty rappers who diminish just about everyone. Look at the influence!!!

Stick to Jazz (created in America) and good movies, documentaries. Things that don't evoke riots. Where's the GOOD NEWS???

Do something positive. That song "Mother I'm a Criminal", along with its video, incites vulnerables. Shameful, although not a bad beat, but come on.

All people need to be and feel accepted. Shame on humankind. Also remember "Population Explosion" and "Healthy People 2010" ???  We are first conceived with neuro ... um brain place...then  the cardio enlarged heart kicks in...where is the research in neuro development/expansion...???


Wish I was a "Tuh-tle" ....zombie "tuh tle" that is...

Impeach Obama on something already.....holy shit...where is that saudi scum that was under surveillence and in the hospital under protection for anyway? We the people should know what the heck that was all about...

Oh, going back to da da... getting a security in USA good for your protection?...SHIT... get rid of the money they have here...go into a phase where NO diplomatic immunity is done, get rid of anyone who doesn't become an American citizen within one year of being here...keep questioning them and if they are shown via investigation/DEPORT THEM...we don't want anyone who doesn't want to be here! Mexicans getting into this country via the Texas ass wipes included. SHIT once again. 

Let drugs and the cartels and Columbia go to HELL...

Develop riches in power/fuel cells/wind and water. Forget oil. NOT A RENEWABLE RESOURCE!!!

Isolation Country ... forget everyone else and create jobs HERE.


Mon, 04/22/2013 - 23:07 | 3486581 StychoKiller
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So, anyone know what Glenn Beck had to say today?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:28 | 3485346 Antifaschistische
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Here’s the defense:


·         His now DEAD brother masterminded the whole thing

·         He didn’t even know what was in the backpacks

·         He followed his brother religiously

·         He put the backpack where his brother told him to and walked away

·         He had no intention of ever hurting anyone

·         When he found out what happened, he was angry, depressed and suicidal

·         He did not want to spend the rest of his life in prison…but he still went along with his older, very domineering brother

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 17:07 | 3485492 Cathartes Aura
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wonder how the pic showing him leaving the area WITH the pack ON his back, the *blast* in clear view is going to fit into that narrative.

the story was link'd was in a previous day's thread, but here's a link to the actual video.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 19:13 | 3485814 Stabile Eyes it
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asshole...just look at your photo image/you kill

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 22:29 | 3486431 JeffB
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Per one of the Tylers' posts yesterday, per one source, there was no evidence of bomb making materials, weapons etc. at the bachelor pad:

Inside Ground Zero: Photos From The Suspects' Apartment

"...In other words, typical bachelor squalor, but that's about it. Most notably: not a trace of any explosive, incendiary or other bomb-preparing equipment or residue, no evidence of terrorist activity, and no weapons. So where did the two put together the numerous bombs they are said to have prepared?..."

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:11 | 3484669 Bananamerican
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Ball Bearings? I'd say that qualifies....

But it's the "Mass destruction" of our American culture, traditions and LAWS that disturbs me FAR MORE than the actions of some alleged Terrorist...Those we can survive, but the wanton destruction of Constitutional protections, those we cannot survive.

Put the guy on trial. Prove his guilt before a jury of his peers or just run up a swastika flag over the Capital and get it over with.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:11 | 3484680 redpill
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Ball bearings are not mass destruction.  In the past that label has been reserved for nuke/chem/bio weapons that have the ability to cause, you know, mass destruction.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:57 | 3484796 smlbizman
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and has any body found any nails and ball bearings,,,the pressure cooker should had at least dents from them if not going flash pots....the fake wheel chair guy, i will post has an internal 500 i cant......and if we want to find nails if any all i have to do is drive my truck thru there one tires are nail magnets

message comming up now site off line...we saw it...were the amputee had those fake shreds on and the cowboy hat guy...rolling down the road in a blood on his shirt but legs are shredded....enough of us saw this...found another source

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:42 | 3484866 Sofa King Confused
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" Come on guys, its all ball bearings nowadays "  Fletch

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:01 | 3484943 Totentänzerlied
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A bomb is not a WMD. Every military in the world has access to things 100 times more powerful than a pressure cooker bomb. Total, complete, utter bullshit.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:12 | 3484990 toys for tits
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Agreed, but the bombing last Monday is not the charge.

They must have found other evidence about the conspiracy to get a WMD.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:34 | 3485070 redpill
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Right.  Let me guess, yellowcake in Nigeria?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:50 | 3485154 pods
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Now all they need is a google search for same.

Probably had contact with the Nigerian Minister of Minerals too. Sent him money and everything!


Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:33 | 3485363 BoNeSxxx
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But but but,... They said that Saddam didn't have WMDs.  After they said he did.

Turns out he really did all along... I hear he enjoyed Bameih cooked in a crock pot.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 22:34 | 3486451 JeffB
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"They must have found other evidence about the conspiracy to get a WMD."

So they're all a bunch of conspiracy theorists, eh?

Rather ironic methinks.


Mon, 04/22/2013 - 23:02 | 3486565 JeffB
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"Agreed, but the bombing last Monday is not the charge.

They must have found other evidence about the conspiracy to get a WMD."

Apparently the bombing last Monday is the charge.

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev charged with using ‘weapon of mass destruction’

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 09:27 | 3485546 Urban Redneck
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Bush's braniacs were were the ones who couldn't come up with an intelligent definition of a WMD.  This was despite the fact that they supposedly knew exactly what they were looking for in Iraq...  

Barry- the current corrupt cocksucker, however, should do another serious and very public apology tour (complete with bowing) if he wants to run with that insane definition though, because the US did find  THOUSANDS OF HUGE STASHES OF WMDS ALL OVER IRAQ, if indeed that is what a WMD is...

However, no journey to Bizzaro World is complete without the following- while the device used may have legally been a WMD, depending on the powder used- it was not necessarily even an EXPLOSIVE device.  Or even more troubling, a drunk running someone over with a motor-vehicle or a New Yorker with a seven shot WMD legally authorized by Cornhole Cuomo himself could find themselves before a judge facing charges of using a WMD if any prosecutor is ever to get to the bottom of the thousands of pages of existing and conflicting laws, regulations, and treaty obligations which attempt to deal with several very distinct chemical reactions.


Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:16 | 3485301 fuu
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DoChen has some 'splaining to do then as an arms dealer.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 19:09 | 3485804 Stabile Eyes it
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then he could be released and live next door to you...asshole

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:18 | 3484720 Poetic injustice
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Now every American has WMD in his house. Hell, even a car can explode with such strength as alleged "bomb".

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:25 | 3484750 TrumpXVI
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Now, any sport shooter w/a reloading bench is a WMD absurd is that?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:22 | 3484743 TrumpXVI
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Really, WMD?  Talk about shrill hyperbole.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:27 | 3484782 New_Meat
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They never mentioned the pressure cooker stockpiles that Saddam was building up.  Of course, with 14 months of sitzkreig, he had plenty of time to bury them in the Bekka' Valley, no sweat.

- Ned

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 19:06 | 3485797 Stabile Eyes it
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yes, and these mutants/no neuro growths/are continuing hating ... how nmany years now? 2000=? America wan't even in existence...Religious nutjobs

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:01 | 3485222 t0mmyBerg
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That was my question.  But in the US, the prosecutors have become zealots and rarely exercise proper discretion.  They will concoct all kinds of outrageous theories.  Clearly this is not a case of WMD usage.  To allege it is an outrage.  And the GOP morons calling for use of the NDAA of 2012 mechanism should be removed from office.  Violently if necessary.  US citizen gets US Constitutional rights.  Period.  Prosecute them and then kill them.  But do so in a way that complies with the Constitution.  Why do I get the feeling that we are screwed as a country?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:17 | 3485304 Lost Word
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According to the Treasonous Government, anything that explodes, bullet gunpowder, firecrackers, can be defined as a weapon of mass destruction. Just another pseudo-legal  excuse for Tyranny.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:05 | 3484642 quintago
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Did anybody else watch 60 Minutes last night? Let me get this straight, the guy has a bullet wound that entered through his mouth exited through the back of his neck, but somehow an FBI negotiator was able to talk him out of the boat?

Can somebody please tell me how a person shot through the mouth is able to stand up and get out of the boat? That's fucking amazing.

2nd point is that it was said that a shot was fired (presumably to kill himself if the first part is true) and the cops returned a bunch of fire. So a shot goes off and they light the place up like Christmas?




Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:07 | 3484654 redpill
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The only realistic part is the cops managed to miss him enough times that he lived.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:08 | 3484673 TeamDepends
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That's one tough hombre who, as we speak, is getting a makeover complete with orange hair.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:18 | 3484734 augmister
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Didn't you know that cops are lousy shots?   See it all the time at my club.   BTW, 200 rounds fired at the Waterville "fire fight", the brother runs over the other brother and kills him, but gets away?  Nobody died of gunfire.   The Boston cops riddle a boat and still don't take the younger brother out?   Nobody died of gun fire.   Now you know why Janet, Mother of Homeland Security needs all those hollow tip bullets.   Nobody can shoot straight and/or hit anything.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:52 | 3484904 55 men
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Harry....Your alive...and your a horrible shot.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:15 | 3484999 toys for tits
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Because he didn't stand up straight and line up like their practice targets they couldn't hit him.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 17:13 | 3485508 Cathartes Aura
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when someone else *cough* taxpayers pays for your unlimited supply of bullets,  who needs to worry about targeting?


Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:19 | 3484735 McMolotov
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Not only did he shoot himself in the throat and climb out of the boat on his own, he also was "swearing profusely" in the ambulance, according to the LA Times.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:24 | 3484766 TeamDepends
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And who could blame him?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:28 | 3484784 Andy_Jackson_Jihad
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Cops are notoriously trigger-happy with pretty awful aim at the same time.

As for the anatomy, didn't you ever watch fight club?  That's how jack killed tyler wasn't it?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:12 | 3484991 SilverIsKing
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I hate when people spoil the ending.  Thanks for nothing.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 23:40 | 3486678 StychoKiller
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Trust me on this, THAT was not the ending...

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:03 | 3484953 Totentänzerlied
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Have you heard the recording of the "exchange of fire"? Sounds like Normandy on D-Day. What the fuck were they shooting at, from that range, that required more than 2 shots?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:24 | 3485038 McMolotov
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This whole thing seems like it was scripted by The National Enquirer, so maybe that neighborhood is alleged to have a history of Bigfoot sightings or something.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 17:16 | 3485515 Cathartes Aura
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every police shoot 'em up video I've ever watched sounded the same. . .

unlimited supplies of weapons/reloads.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:55 | 3485170 Rogue Trooper
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Therein lies the rub. So much happens so fast and is recorded all the 'holes' in the story start to appear.  This makes no sense once the dust settled.  Same as the Chris Dorner incident when the Police (Craft?) employees burnt down the building and therefore the body and all evidence of that was allegedly Dorner to a chrisp. Low and behold they find the indestructible LA Drivers License.

If this was a Sienfield sketch folks would have said they went too far.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:32 | 3484810 Freddie
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Rolling Stone and Jan Wnner?  LOL!  They run the Rock and Roll Museum.  Total retards who loved really bad bands and usually were not that crazy about good bands.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:04 | 3484616 Bananamerican
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““It is clear the events we have seen over the past few days in Boston were an attempt to kill American citizens and terrorize a major American city,” The suspect, based upon his actions, clearly is a good candidate for enemy combatant status. We do not want this suspect to remain silent",a group of GOP lawmakers led by Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said in a statement Saturday.


Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:03 | 3484635 redpill
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Does that surprise you?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:35 | 3484828 Bananamerican
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somewhat.... I want to see the other (majority) joint Senatorial statement screaming for the guy to have his day in court.

...but no, I'm not going to hold my breath

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:19 | 3485013 toys for tits
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With them saying that, and the president saying what he did, how the fuck is any jury going to be impartial since the most powerful people in this country (excluding bankers) have already condemned him?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 17:21 | 3485533 Cathartes Aura
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they're looking to set a precedent, as always.

incremental creep is how government works. . . slowly stealing human rights out from under every individual, all accomplished over time.

they've created the spectacle, now they will work to create the new laws.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:07 | 3484961 Totentänzerlied
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The terrorizing worked, thanks to the government's unbelievably bungled (by which I mean deliberately militaristic with the calculated aim of instilling mass terror/disruption/panic/confusion, executed flawlessly) response.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:29 | 3485345 Lost Word
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If only he was talking about the Government as the Suspect.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:00 | 3484612 Vendrell
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GOGO blue team amirite rahrahrah

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:10 | 3484681 aerojet
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Will you stop repeating this nonsense?  What fucking drill?  Where?  You're taking hearsay and promoting as if it were the sterling truth.  It isn't.

Some dumb shit walked up to a cop at the race and asked why he had the bomb sniffing dog and the cop said it was for a security drill and everyone ran off with this news shaking their fists and going "See?  See?  We *told* you it's a government conspiracy!!!"

Meanwhile, the dumb cop that said that just didn't want to alarm the guy because there are bomb dogs at all major events and if there was a credible threat made, the last thing you want to do is alarm the public about it.  And then bullshit like this gets started as a result!

And how, exactly, was Sandy Hook a drill?  You do realize that police do all kinds of training, all the freaking time, right?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:50 | 3484785 Pegasus Muse
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"...conspiring to use weapon of mass destruction"

The authorities seem to be stretching it by classifying what was orginally called "amateurish" Pressure-Cooker Bomb as a WMD.  You think they want this guy to fry?    

What are Weapons of Mass Destruction? (FBI FAQ page) "WMD is often referred to by the collection of modalities that make up the set of weapons: chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear, and explosive (CBRNE). These are weapons that have a relatively large-scale impact on people, property, and/or infrastructure."


Q:  What does the US Government call a Hellfire Missile fired from a US-See-IA Drone that kills and maims an entire Pakistani family gathered for a wedding? 

A:  A tragic mistake.  


Did you hear the clip of the lady claiming it was a Police SUV that ran over the older brother.  Then the cops proceeded to shoot him multiple times.  She believed the guy was dead before they put him in the ambulance. 


Evil is in the eye of the beholder.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:42 | 3485104 kchrisc
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That would be mastercide. Can't be killing their masters, now can they?!

On a sidenote: what the hell would they do and shut down to look for Corzine?!            hujel

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 20:41 | 3486131 bigyimmy007
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The death toll and pain & suffering resulting from white collar crime is definitely underestimated.

The banks and governments have killed more people throughout history than so-called "terrists."

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:31 | 3484442 chumbawamba
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You do?  Great, check out the last 20 seconds of this video:

There's your suspect fleeing from the scene without a backpack.

I am Chumbawamba.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:44 | 3484520 loregnum
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You mean the CST person that was wearing a backpack in later photos after the bombing?


I don't know if you are implying a CST person did this or if you actually think that is the older brother. Scary if you think it is the older brother and I hope for anyone on trial for a serious crime never gets you are part of their jury

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:03 | 3484625 Bendromeda Strain
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Let me get this straight - you are now calling the contractor a Crime Scene Technician? Since when do CSTs stand around the crime scene moments before the crime happens? If the Gummint had intel and failed, do you or don't you think they should fess up? baaaah baaah

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:10 | 3484685 HelluvaEngineer
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No.  The most popular theory is that they are members of the National Guard Civil Support Team.  That's the official story.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:13 | 3484700 aerojet
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It was a major sporting event.  There was tons of police and feds present.  Those private contractors were hired to be there in case something went down.  Why is that such a stretch of the imagination that people like that might actually be there doing their jobs as expected?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:36 | 3484831 TeamDepends
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"in case something went down."  You forgot the quotation marks.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:41 | 3484856 vato poco
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Everyone here seems to be missing the _other_ major points of this story. As has been pointed out elsewhere, 1) The DHS instituted de facto martial law in a major American city and nobody said jack squat about it and 2) While all the "civilians" were indoors and the "professionals" were riding around on APC's and taking pictures of themselves in full ninja costume to jack off over later, the bad guy was on the loose and not caught. About 10 seconds after the "professionals" grudgingly admitted their laughable impotence and humiliating failure & alllowed the sheep back into their pen, a "civilian" found the bad guy.

And nobody - least of all the media - says jack squat about it. Because The Children. Or something.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:25 | 3485036 toys for tits
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The shut down didn't apply to Dunkin Donuts.

If you wrote this a script for a movie, you'd be shot in the pitch meeting.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:59 | 3485187 kchrisc
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I could go on all day about the police-state and that the gun and badge thugs (GBTs) serve not us, the mundanes, but their political and bankster masters, however this article says it all.

They requested that DD stay open to serve them while all else was shutdown. LOL

One question though: Did off-shift employees have to stay or were they granted special privileges to go home through the "zone"?

The moral of the story is this: if you are being hunted by the GBTs say you work at DD and you'll have a free-pass.

"You work at Dunkin Donuts! Why didn't you say so sooner? Go on right ahead sir, sorry to have delayed you."             hujel

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:08 | 3485254 kchrisc
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If the TSA had been involved then KFC would have also been asked to stay open. Yeah, I went there. How do you like me now?!       hujel

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:34 | 3484464 jbvtme
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Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:35 | 3484469 TeamDepends
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On CNN they are asking the rhetorical question:  Does Dzhokhar deserve the death penalty?!?!  No trial, no jury, no nuthin'!  DAMN!  He is an American citizen, is he not?  Also, is the deported Saudi Osama Bin Laden's son (  Why do the Bin Ladens get shuttled offshore immediately after things go boom?  It's like they are on the inside or something.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:55 | 3484573 Yes We Can. But...
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I believe he is to be charged with crimes for which, if convicted in a court of law, he would face penalty of death.  So, he would get his trial.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:05 | 3484641 reader2010
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no, he won't since he will die in the hospital by order. 

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:44 | 3484873 Freddie
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Maybe sequestration cut the US Navy's budget so there is no money for immediate burial at see on a guided missile cruiser or larger USN ship in accordence to strict Islamic law?   F CNN and All of TV!

The Bin Laden's and Saudi money own DC and Boston/Cambridge.   They own Mayor Quimby, Chief Wiggum and probably Duff's Beer.  Sorry I meant to say the Kennedys, Deval Patrick and Mennino.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 23:47 | 3486696 StychoKiller
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"Mmm, Duff!" -- Homer Simpson

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:25 | 3484767 Thought Processor
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Apparently they already have a problem-  in the President's speech he clearly presumes the suspects are guilty.  This presents a, cough cough.... small problem:  In our justice system you are presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty.   The suspect(S) have yet to be proven guilty.   And there is no way any jury can now remain impartial given what the "President of the United States" has already said in a televised speech directed toward all AMERICANS.   

Fragments of speech at issue: 

"Obviously, tonight there are still many unanswered questions.  Among them, why did young men who grew up and studied here, as part of our communities and our country, resort to such violence?  How did they plan and carry out these attacks, and did they receive any help?  The families of those killed so senselessly deserve answers.  The wounded, some of whom now have to learn how to stand and walk and live again, deserve answers."



"One thing we do know is that whatever hateful agenda drove these men to such heinous acts will not — cannot — prevail.  Whatever they thought they could ultimately achieve, they’ve already failed."

So ya, small problem.  This is not to say that the suspect(s) were not responsible, only that they have not been given the right to a fair trial yet and have already been presumed guilty.   

As a resident of Boston / Cambridge I would like nothing more than to see that those responsible for the bombings are held responsible.  But not at the expense of our justice system.  This process will be viewed up close by all and should be transparent, open, and conducted according to the well established laws that both protect the victims of crimes and those suspected of the crimes (in order to see that they get a fair and public trial).

One would hope that the legal issues of this event are held at the highest levels.  

Too much to ask?


Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:12 | 3484985 Totentänzerlied
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They "knew" al Qaeda was behind the 9/11 attacks within a few hours. Your silly "laws" and "rules" don't apply here. Once the MSM chooses, or is told, which narrative to pursue, it is game over, nothing else matters, certainly not laws, procedures, or rules.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 23:54 | 3486713 StychoKiller
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Reminds me of Charlie Manson holding up a copy of the LA Times during his trial:

(Couldn't find the actual headline)

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:34 | 3485072 Randall Cabot
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At 3:18, it looks like he still has the backpack after the explosions:

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 19:04 | 3485736 HardAssets
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Just websearch Sibel Edmonds (formerly from the FBI) and Chechnya and Turkish Operation Gladio Plan B (empowering radical Islamic factions by the US in order to destablilize the Mid-East and Central Asia. Some people are so easy to manipulate).  Also the intel connections of those involved, especially in Chechnya. Check out the work of F. William Engdahl on oil geo-politics and fulll spectrum dominance.

 Research the Muslim Brotherhood, 'Al Qeada', and the Mujihadeem. Research Zbigniew Brezinski and the Grand Chessboard and the importance of Central Asia to the global balance of power. Research US support for Al Qeada in Syria.

Yes, this might make peoples head hurt a little. Many aren't used to stepping outside the 'good guy'/'bad guy' stories that theyve been told since they were children. Many have remained children mentally.

You may find that its really all about 'bad guy' versus 'badguy' . . . . and all the badguys against the dumb naive brainwashed populace around the world.

I heard an interview with Michael Savage recently. He's smarter than most of them, but just can't seem to wrap his mind around something other than 'evil Muslims hiding behind every corner.'  When a recent Middle Eastern guest and authority mentioned that Al Qaeda is supported by the US in Syria his mental gears got off track. He paused and blamed it on the current administration (as bad as any) . . . but this has been going on for a veerrrry  long time and across administrations of both parties.

You always need an external enemy. Isnt that obvious ?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:31 | 3484428 Sands8oo
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Well,  deception or not, the mindfuck is working:


Heard on WEEI,  Boston 'sports' talk radio this morning (cant make this up) - CALLER: "yeah, not sure whats going on with the uncle, mother, father, or wife and son involved with these guys, but someone needs to take them out" RADIO HOST: (laughing) "you mean, like kill them?" CALLER: "Well yeah, or something like that, get them out of here... I heard the father is coming back to the U.S. to figure out whats going on... I have a couple of friends that could meet him at the airport and take care of that problem real quick"


Yup, we're there

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:31 | 3484455 chumbawamba
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You must've only been a kid when 9/11 happened.  We arrived there long ago.

I am Chumbawamba.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:57 | 3484929 zerozulu
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Two things are going on simultaneously. After every few months a trerreersit  show up with a non-functional device provided by alphabet agency's undercover agent and becomes a reason to curtail civil liberties. A media campaign starts to blame and defame Muslims at the same time.

First,economy is in shamble and all fundamentals of a breathable economy are destroyed. To control the angry masses a setup is being prepared. Other thing about Islam is the fear TPTB have. If people learn about Islam, definitely thing will get out of control because...



Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:54 | 3484911 Freddie
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Red Sox Nation! LOL!

The guy was probably winding him up.  Sounds like a Jerky Boys prank call.  

Deport the whole f**king clan of Chechen Muslims. 

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 19:07 | 3485798 HardAssets
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People wonder how a Hitler or Stalin can come into power.

Because people are easily manipulated by fear and hate . . . . especially when they think "that'll never happen here" and "I have nothing to hide, so nothing to be afraid of"

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:27 | 3484429 Freddie
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The older may have killed 3 men in Boston on Sept 12, 2011.  There was pot involved.  The older brother looks like he was a low level drug dealer and enforcer with the Chechen Mafia.

It was on the Daily Mail this morning.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:44 | 3484516 Suisse
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But Freddie, we all know pot is harmless! 

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:09 | 3484676 Lohn Jocke
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Suspect number 2 smokes pot. Suspect number 2 is an alleged terrorist. Therefore all pot smokers are alleged terrorists.

Formal logic doesn't apply to authority. We will now conduct a house to house search for marijuanna.


Hedge accordingly means go long ammo.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:55 | 3484910 Harbanger
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Worried about the slippery slope? we're already at the bottom. Blaming pot smokers is the least of your worries because they're not a threat to the State.  In fact, the State wishes all the people were forgetful and mellow.  But after the State has full control of your health and well-being, you'll be forced to stop smoking and take their appproved antidepressants.  People should be more concerned about the "illegal" house searches, no matter what the circumstances were.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:49 | 3484539 otto skorzeny
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Freddie-you sound dumber with every post.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:52 | 3484558 dick cheneys ghost
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Freddie loves Israel

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:12 | 3484608 Freddie
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Really?  What makes you think that?  I do not like either side in the Middle East.  I do like the Egyptians fighting for their lives against O Mus Brotherhood in Egypt and the Syrians fighting the same people.

I love Israel so much that I wonder why this kid has Israeli doctors in a Boston hospital and how the kid may never speak again.  "You won't need those vocal chords kid."

Yeah - I don't like Chechen Muslims so I must like bagels.  F off.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:23 | 3484748 McMolotov
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You don't like bagels?!?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 21:10 | 3486194 HardAssets
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What's wrong with an innocent bagel that never hurt another soul ?

Onion bagel with cream cheese, lox, red onion, and capers please ! 


Key to world peace:  sitting down and enjoying a meal together. No ties or jackets allowed.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:24 | 3484754 dick cheneys ghost
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'mr freddie all muslim all the time'...Your subtle attempts at deflecting attention away from Israel and AIPEC dont work with me


btw, we have our own doctors and our own 'police state' we dont need Israel's

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:00 | 3484934 Freddie
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Is that the best you can do?  I think it is AIPAC not AIPEC when did I mention them  I am not deflection attention away.  Why the Israeli doctors and why the Israeli police?   Who requested these cops?  Chief Wiggum and the incompented Boston PD could not handle this?   I agree with your last sentence. 

You do know who the Saudis are close allies with?  You do know who the Saudi royals are descended from?  The whole semite people war is a BS game to fool the goyim/infidels.  So go back to your CAIR meeting.  Fiing idiot.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:57 | 3484582 Freddie
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Really why?  Because I mentioned pot?  The older brother was low level Chechen mafia.  He was also rumored to possibly be CIA double agent.  Somebody in the govt was smoothing things out for him.  He should have been deported in 2009 after he was arrested. 

Oh sorry he had a part time job delivering food. 

Geez.   Hey Otto - I doubt I ever down arrowed you ever.  G FU!

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:10 | 3484658 otto skorzeny
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the  "looks like" comment is alot of the reason for the problems we face. like those fucking idiots that had that plane in Boston stopped because of some "they look/sound like " terrorists stupidity. this whole thing is fucked anyway because the CIA supported the muzzies in Chechnya to screw with the Russians-so these guys should not harbor too much animosity for the US.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:18 | 3484729 Freddie
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FYI - I up arrowed you.  The older brother was getting too many free passes.  Someone was protecting him in the USA.   They hate the infidels so even if Uncle Sugar gave him a shitty old Mercedes and "euro style" disco clothes - a higher bidder or maybe the Koran would set this semi-literate off.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:14 | 3485001 Rogue Trooper
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Christ, Freddie & Otto, both of you are actually on the same side, I normally up arrow you both.

This all smells like road kill in a hot summers day. Focus on the real enemy and not each other.

Take is easy... rogue


Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:30 | 3485061 Freddie
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+1  I hear you. I am for Americans and not for ANY ***king foreign govt or corrupt US govt.  The scum media has already forgotten about the dead and maimed.  Saudis involvement not mentioned. The Craft guys were ghosts.


Mon, 04/22/2013 - 19:39 | 3485898 Stabile Eyes it
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UP Yourself

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 19:41 | 3485909 Stabile Eyes it
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meant for Freddie

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:24 | 3484769 Svendblaaskaeg
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"...The older may have killed 3 men in Boston on Sept 12, 2011. There was pot involved" what did He do? - giggle them to death?

Eddie Izzard - Hashashins:

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:36 | 3485086 Freddie
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Here is the story.  Chechnya is a transshipping point for drugs (not pot).  I think the oldest brother was a boxer and a small time local Chechen hood and possibly a murderer.  Another site thinks he was being recruited by the CIA. 


Mon, 04/22/2013 - 19:35 | 3485888 Stabile Eyes it
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um.....just another problem for America        if your statement is true

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 19:08 | 3485800 HardAssets
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Daily Mail ?  . . . . it must be true

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 19:43 | 3485914 Lost Word
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Daily Mail is better than most USA news media.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:23 | 3484759 midtowng
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If he killed innocent people and therefore deserves to die.

But since when is a pressure-cooker bomb a WMD? If that's the case then every nation on Earth has WMD, as well as many Americans.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 17:45 | 3485584 Cathartes Aura
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oh my, yes, that would open a massive can o' worms, hmm. . .

everyOne under suspicion, see something, say something citizens!

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:30 | 3485058 Randall Cabot
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James Angleton-one of the murderers of President Kennedy:


The close connections between a relatively small circle of people and those in their immediate spheres of influence is no coincidence. That all of them, in some fashion, were part of the circumstances surrounding the assassination of John F. Kennedy is also no coincidence. Critics of JFK assassination conspiracy theories contend that a conspiracy so immense would require a vast number of people involved. In fact, the mechanics of initiating the conspiracy described in Final Judgment involved perhaps no more than 20 people. Most of those ultimately involved in the conspiracy were probably not even aware of the activities of the others who were involved.

So then, let us name, for the record, those whom we believe had advance knowledge that John F. Kennedy was going to be killed on November 22, 1963. They are:

Israeli Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion;

Israeli Mossad assassinations chief Yitzhak Shamir;

Permindex chief executive officer Louis M. Bloomfield;

Mossad officer and Permindex banker Rabbi Tibor Rosenbaum;

CIA Counterintelligence chief James J. Angleton;

French intelligence officer Georges deLannurien;

Crime Syndicate boss Meyer Lansky

Read the entire book Final Judgment here:


Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:19 | 3484374 New_Meat
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FBI works 4 Holder

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:29 | 3484423 nope-1004
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Holder is corrupt.  Therefore, FBI = corrupt.  This dude will be killed, guaranteed.  No martyrs will be allowed to live.



Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:42 | 3485401 Lost Word
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FBI has been corrupt ever since Hoover, but obviously corrupt ever since JFK killing in 1963.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:20 | 3484375 chumbawamba
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First it was Jose Padilla.  Now it's Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.

Let's see if they ever make a big media parade around "John Smith" being treated as an enemy combatant.  There are and have already been such names treated thusly, but you never hear about them.

The police state arrived with the DHS, which is now the de facto government of the United States.

I am Chumbawamba.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:27 | 3484425 Banksters
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Trail balloons have flown. Agenda  implementation  is here.  

Fear is a weapon of the state.   Shelter in Place = Martial law.   Submit to the authorities, never mind that it was a citizen who discovered the suspect.   




Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:51 | 3484555 aerojet
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Oh please, the media has your brain for breakfast.  After watching that whole scene in Boston, I am no longer at all concerned about martial law in the US.  They couldn't do it in any major city for even a single week!  The cops were exhausted last week, they had almost nothing left to give and they're super lucky this attack wasn't 10X worse.  And before you say 'military' understand the US military is also not magical.  I doubt the entire US military could stabilize the NYC area for any length of time at all, even with orders to shoot to kill.  You underestimate the crush of humanity in those places and overestimate the capabilities of the police and military.  The media only makes us think they are in control, but if push comes to shove, they will fold.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:02 | 3484589 Banksters
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You know the rule of history is tyranny and oppression.  Our republic is blip compared to the slavery of millenia  


Regardless, Shelter in place was martial law.   And the people complied, DIDN'T THEY?



Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:10 | 3484674 reader2010
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as usual, first they steal words then they steal meanings.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 19:28 | 3485844 HardAssets
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Up arrows for 'Banksters' and aerojet.

It wont be the military/police who subjugate the American people. The military can't even control Iraq and Afghanistan completely. More troops die from suicide than from combat, how would they fair psychologically against their own fellow Americans ? 

It'll be up to the American people to subjugate themselves.  Those in Boston failled the test. For one guy, they all trembled in their houses while their Liberty was stomped on.

Question:  How many others (criminal gangsters of all types) are there out there who are at least as dangerous as this guy ?  Will you stay in your houses forever, and never go out ?  Is this what we mean by 'the Land of the Free, Home of the Brave' ?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:02 | 3484630 Sweet Chicken
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If they hadn't wrapped this up by that evening Boston would have been in flames by Sunday. 

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 19:38 | 3485894 Stabile Eyes it
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may you yourself should self destruct

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:58 | 3484590 Blankman
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I have been making this argument this weekend whever I question people about the 

"Optional" martial law that was imposed.  Who found the guy?  A citizen not a cop or fbi agent.  We as citizens are in charge of our own well being, our own fate and our own destiny and when you cede responsibility of your own actions to a govt, police force or politician you lose.  They can not protect you better than you can protect yourself.  Stop letting fear control you.  

Forall the goons out there who just want to see the guy torn apart by wild yaks instead of following the law of the land becareful of what you wish for.  Martial law was just imposed on one of the larger cities in the USA and I feel this is a slippery slope we are on.  They used the fear of one terrorist to shut down an entire city, that is scary shit.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:19 | 3484376 MillionDollarBogus_
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Anything to report on the Kardashians..??

What's Charlie Sheen up to.?

I thought this was a finance/economy forum.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:30 | 3484441 StarTedStackin'
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What HASN'T The Obowel Movement lied about?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 19:13 | 3485819 knukles
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They even said he was black.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:42 | 3484502 NotApplicable
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LOL, sad troll is sad.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:52 | 3484557 hannah
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MillionDollarBogus_ - do some research on the domain info and who owns this site and then come back and comment on the 'purpose of this site'. the info is out there on the internet about the owners and what they have done in the past here and overseas.....good or bad or ???...who knows ...i dont really care as half this sites info is right on while other stuff (GW hint hint GW) is pure east block propaganda.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:12 | 3484698 Cacete de Ouro
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GW ? I must be slow idea....

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:41 | 3484859 hannah
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GW = george washington...contributor

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 19:40 | 3485906 Stabile Eyes it
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Charlie Sheen probably supported the Columbians

F Hollywood 

but he was funny...too bad

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:24 | 3484379 McMolotov
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Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was also photographed climbing out of the boat by himself with no assistance and was later heard — according to the LA Times — "swearing profusely" in the ambulance. But now he can't speak?

I'm waiting for the sudden onset of extreme carpal tunnel syndrome to prevent him from writing.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:32 | 3484452 Possible Impact
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There is an Internet rumor that he chewed off both hands last night, to avoid being able to write.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 13:33 | 3484467 Never One Roach
Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:34 | 3485078 Rogue Trooper
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+1000 "We offer a kevlar ballistic protection 'mankini' for every CRAFT employee as part of their benefit plan". Any colour you want as long as it is BLACK.

You never can be too careful.... even when relaxing at the pool after a hard days work with the 'boys'.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:27 | 3484775 Frank N. Beans
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LA Times said this?  Are they more believable than CNN?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:25 | 3485032 Rogue Trooper
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+ 100 rounds of 5.56X45 McMolotov.

What about the reporters saying the Police(?) fired a couple of shots into the boat and then tried to talk him out.  WTF I was watching and listening to the live feed they must have fired 100+ rounds?  Then we get the infared pic of him lying in the boat. They would have had that picture so again why did they light up?

Scanning some of the MSM boards and sheeple are raising 'false flag' on the forums.  We thought JFK and 911 attracted consipracy theories.  This one is going to get out of hand.

If it smells like shit it is shit...

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:45 | 3485419 Lost Word
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Unless that was a typo for "sweating profusely".

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