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Full Criminal Complaint Against Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, Including New Details

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The charges against Dzhokhar may have been filed under seal but it took minutes to find the full 11 page affidavit by FBI agent Daniel Genck, against the alleged bomber. And while there have been many discrepancies in various official versions of the narrative leading to the capture of the younger Tsarnaev, this is the final, final draft, which means any changes to the story from now on will be greeted by substantial popular skepticism.

Some of the newly emerging highlights:

From the day of the marathon:

  • At approximately 2:42 p.m. (i.e., approximately seven minutes before the first explosion), Bomber One can be seen detaching himself from the crowd and walking cast on Boylston Street towards the Marathon finish line. Approximately 15 seconds later, he can be seen passing directly in front of the Forum Restaurant and continuing in the direction of the location where the first explosion occurred. His knapsack is still on his back.
  • At approximately 2:45 p.m., Bomber Two can be seen detaching himself from the crowd and walking cast on Boylston Street toward the Marathon finishing line. He appears to have the thumb of his right hand hooked under the strap of his knapsack and a cell phone in his left hand. Approximately 15 seconds later, he can be seen stopping directly in front of the Forum Restaurant and standing near the metal border among numerous spectators, with his back to the camera, facing the runners, He then can be seen apparently slipping his knapsack onto the ground. A photograph taken from the opposite side of the street shows the knapsack on the ground at Bomber Two's feet.
  • The Forum Restaurant video shows that Bomber Two remained in the same spot for approximately four minutes, occasionally looking at his cell phone and once appearing to take a picture with it. At some point he appears to look at his phone, which is held at approximately waist level, and may be manipulating the phone. Approximately 30 seconds before the first explosion, he lifts his phone to his ear as if he is speaking on his cell phone, and keeps it there for approximately 18 seconds. A few seconds after he finishes the call, the large crowd of people around him can be seen reading to the first explosion. Virtually every head turns to the east (towards the finish line) and stares in that direction in apparent bewilderment and alarm. Bomber Two, virtually alone among the individuals in front of the restaurant, appears calm. He glances to the cast and then calmly but rapidly begins moving to the west, away from the direction of the finish line. He walks away without his knapsack, having left it on the ground where he had been standing. Approximately 10 seconds later, an explosion occurs in the location where Bomber Two had placed his knapsack.

From the hijacking:

  • Near midnight on April 18, 2013, an individual carjacked a vehicle at gunpoint in Cambridge, Massachusetts. A victim of the carjacking was interviewed by law enforcement and provided the following information. The victim stated that while he was sitting in his car on a road in Cambridge, a man approached and tapped on his passenger-side window. When the victim rolled down the window, the man reached in, opened the door, and entered the victim's vehicle. The man pointed a firearm at the victim and stated, "Did you hear about the Boston explosion?" and "I did that." The man removed the magazine from his gun and showed the victim that it had a bulletin it, and then re-inserted the magazine. The man then stated, "I am serious."
  • The man with the gun forced the victim to drive to another location, where they picked up a second man. The two men put something in the trunk of the victim's vehicle. The man with the gun took the victim's keys and sat in the driver's seat, white the victim moved to the front passenger seat. The second man entered the victim's vehicle and sat in the rear passenger seat. The man with the gun and the second man spoke to each other in a foreign language.
  • While they were driving, the man with the gun demanded money from the victim, who gave the man 45 dollars. One of the men compelled the victim to hand over his ATM card and password. They then drove to an ATM machine and attempted to withdraw money from the victim's account. The two men and the victim then drove to a gas station/convenience store in the vicinity of 816 Memorial Drive, Cambridge. The two men got out of the car, at which point the victim managed to escape.
  • A short time later, the stolen vehicle was located by law enforcement in Watertown, Massachusetts. As the men drove down Dexter Street in Watertown, they threw at least two small irnprovised explosive devices ("IEDs") out of the car. A gun fight ensued between the car's occupants and law enforcement officers in which numerous shots were fired. One of the men was severely injured and remained at the scene; the other managed to escape in the car. That car was later found abandoned a short distance away, and an intact low-grade explosive device was discovered inside it. In addition, from the scene of the shootout on Laurel Street in Watertown, the FBI has recovered two unexploded IEDs, as well as the remnants of numerous exploded IEDs.

From the showdown and subsequent examinations:

  • A preliminary examination of the explosive devices that were discovered at the scene of the shootout in Watertown and in the abandoned vehicle has revealed similarities to the explosives used at the Boston Marathon. The remnants of at least one of the exploded IEDs at the scene of the shootout indicate that a low-grade explosive had been contained in a pressure cooker. The pressure cooker was of the same brand as the ones used in the Marathon explosions. The explosive also contained metallic BBs contained within an adhesive material as well as green-colored hobby fuse. The intact low-grade explosive device found in the abandoned car was in a plastic container and wrapped with green-colored hobby fuse.
  • On the evening of April 19, 2013, police investigation revealed that there was an individual in a covered boat located at 67 Franklin Street in Watertown. After a stand-off between the boat's occupant and the police involving gunfire, the individual was removed from the boat and searched. A University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth identification card, credit cards, and other forms of identification were found in his pockets. All of them identified the man as DZHOKHAR TSARNAEV. He had visible injuries, including apparent gunshot wounds to the head, neck, legs, and hand. DZHOKHAR TSARNAEV's wounds were triaged and he was brought to an area hospital, where he remains for medical treatment.
  • On April 21, 2013, the FBI searched DZHOKHAR TSARNAEV's dormitory room at 7341 Pine Dale Hall at the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth, pursuant to a search warrant. The FBI seized from his room, among other things, a large pyrotechnic, a black jacket and a white hat of the same general appearance as those worn by Bomber Two at the Boston Marathon on April 15, 2013, and BBs.

Full complaint below:

 


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Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:15 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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Arlington Road.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:19 | Link to Comment redpill
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I figured it would have been signed by Linda Green.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:47 | Link to Comment Precious
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Where is the Craft indictment?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:47 | Link to Comment Fukushima Sam
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Where are the WMDs?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:47 | Link to Comment doomandbloom
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CISPA

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:56 | Link to Comment Troll Magnet
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I believe our government.  I believe the MSM.  I believe our government.  I believe the MSM.  I believe our government.  I believe the MSM.  I believe our government.  I believe the MSM.  I believe our government.  I believe the MSM.  I believe our government.  I believe the MSM.  I believe our government.  I believe the MSM.  I believe our government.  I believe the MSM.  I believe our government.  I believe the MSM.  I believe our government.  I believe the MSM.  I believe our government.  I believe the MSM.  I believe our government.  I believe the MSM.  

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:08 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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The Sheeples' Creed.  Nice.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:34 | Link to Comment 12ToothAssassin
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Enrique Placeholder "We will hold those who are responsible for these heinous acts accountable to the fullest extent of the law"

 

Was the above statement in reference to:

A) Those responsible for 'Operation Fast & Furious'

B) Market moving / manipulating trades / PM suppression by JP Morgan

C) Linda Green

D) Countrywide

E) The Federal Reserve

F) CIA and military members conducting torture and rendition

G) Those responsible for extrajudicial murders or kill list drone strikes

H) High Frequency Trading

I) Market moving / manipulating trades by Goldman Sachs

J) MF Global

K) None of the above

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:42 | Link to Comment smlbizman
Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:51 | Link to Comment jbvtme
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bro 2 seen wearing his backpack after the explosion.  another dagger in the heart of this beast.  nice post!

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:00 | Link to Comment smlbizman
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thanks...and how about the guy who left without his....you know, the one that was used for the bomb

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 17:33 | Link to Comment 12ToothAssassin
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Eric Holder's canadian twin?

 

http://godhelpusall.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Canadian-Train-Terror...

 

Cant tell if the sprawling forehead is present with that mounty hat in the way.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:01 | Link to Comment Common_Cents22
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bull, his backpack was lighter in color, not black, it would be easily differentiated from his dark jacket.   Look at the video of him walking before.

 

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:01 | Link to Comment smlbizman
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exactly...his backpack didnt match the one that was used....his was gray and black?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:14 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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Sequel: O'Batman vs. Dzohkhar  This town needs an enemy, er, enema!

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:44 | Link to Comment toys for tits
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That maybe the Loch Ness Monster on his back.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 17:16 | Link to Comment Common_Cents22
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so he switched backpacks?   the one photo'd could be the other one, its hard to tell but the lighter color shown in the blown up back pack pic could be the lining.    Agree there could be a discrepancy there.    Which backpack is it supposed to be?  #1 or #2?

I think we have to reserve judgement if/when the video of him placing the backpack comes out and other evidence.    I'd like to see the interview w/ the carjack guy.     And there must be plenty of cop dash cam video.

Also, it is very odd that none of the photos of the guns they used have been released.   They were released quickly in the CO shooter case.   

I can see the Feds keeping this stuff as evidence for trial and not releasing it until sometime later as well.

But, the guy posting the video of #2 walking away claiming he has a backpack, is totally contradictory since #2 had a lighter color backpack that would easily be contrasted against his black jacket.   That has not been explained and the burden of proof is on the person who makes the claim.

Either he doesnt  have a backpack and its his jacket/arm/shoulder, or he does have a backpack and it has magically become black or he picked up another one.

 

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 21:40 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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Mon, 04/22/2013 - 17:13 | Link to Comment GaryNeville
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You can't tell if he definately is still wearing his backpack but I agree this is very suspicious..

Also, didnt he supposedly blow his own throat out with a gun in the boat? If so how did he climb out on his own.. Wondering if the FBI put a gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger hoping they could say he killed himself....????

 

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 21:06 | Link to Comment smlbizman
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go full screen...you can see it better

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 17:34 | Link to Comment Poor Grogman
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Good pics haven't seen those yet

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 18:11 | Link to Comment jumbo maverick
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Special K

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 21:35 | Link to Comment Freddie
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F TV! F Hollywood!

Why nothing on the poor slob college cop?  They said they did not kill the hijacked driver because he was not American.  I guess the rent a cop had no such luck.

When did the cop shooting supposedly take place?  I am guessing just before the hijacking>   Make no sense like Officer Tippet that Lee Harvey Oswald supposedly killed. 

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:49 | Link to Comment redpill
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In his mind.  If the info is let out it would cause massive destruction to the police state.  Therefore we'll just have to take their word that they've accurately passed along his "written answers."

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 20:57 | Link to Comment walküre
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..or do the sensible thing, pack your bags, liquidate your assets and leave the country. Anywhere the US has little influence and that probably means a shithole w/o resources.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:07 | Link to Comment azzhatter
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And still have not seen the video of him setting down the bomb

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:31 | Link to Comment Ignatius
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And the ATM withdrawal (with time/date stamp).

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:38 | Link to Comment 12ToothAssassin
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How convenient that they confessed to the unnamed victim of an alleged car jacking. Nice and tidy.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:37 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
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And he said "I'm serious".

So that proves it then.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:45 | Link to Comment toys for tits
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Well, his name does mean 'joker'.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:48 | Link to Comment smlbizman
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the clip i placed above has a pic of him leaving with his back pack...and it shows who did not leave with a back pack...it will be tken down soon im sure...stuff i looked at yesterday do not exist today

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:42 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
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There was a thread on reddit, where people were sharing pics and observations.

It was flooded with disinformation agents by the time I was even reading it, all of what, a couple hours after the thread started.  Disinformation agents!  Easily spotted, thanks to repeated exposure to them. 

You know some of the first disinfo agents on the web were used by corporations for PR?  UFC used to have them, back in the early days of MMA, all the way back in 2003/4.  Used to just spew garbage, literally just shout people down, online (who dared to criticize Dana White or claim UFC was the 2nd best MMA promotion). 

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 19:03 | Link to Comment Common_Cents22
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or MERS Griffin

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:22 | Link to Comment SeverinSlade
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"The FBI seized from his room, among other things, a large pyrotechnic, a black jacket and a white hat of the same general appearance as those worn by Bomber Two at the Boston Marathon on April 15, 2013, and BBs."

So let me get this straight.  After just having bombed Boston, the younger brother returned to his place, changed out of the very clothes he was wearing at the marathon, LEFT THEM in his home, and then went on the run?

Riiiiight.  Pretty fucking stupid for 19 year old mastermind terrorist.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:33 | Link to Comment The Abstraction...
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A large pyrotechnic is a bottle of whisky.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:36 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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...or a grande burrito, if you have just the right balance of intestinal bacteria.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:38 | Link to Comment TrumpXVI
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Or a can of beans.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:00 | Link to Comment dlfield
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Boston Baked Beans

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:15 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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Or, like this story, Boston Half-Baked Beans...

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:45 | Link to Comment toys for tits
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BB's are the new WMD.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:07 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Critical thinking is not welcome when considering this entire affair.

This is for those who wish to suspend disbelief in order to calm their fears or confirm their beliefs.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 17:42 | Link to Comment kill switch
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 When they started yelling at Fenway Park USA,USA,USA,USA,USA........I had an involuntary compulsion to vomit,,,extremely...

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 22:07 | Link to Comment Freddie
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What about how they came out of their homes and applauded the cops/NWO goons for catching a 19 year old and for having them in lock down/Marshall Law for over a day.   The people in MA are sheep.  They vote for shit that enslaves them. 

If it had been a southern state - them boys would have been dead before the cops ever found em.   The Massholes could not find their arse with sniper scopes.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:40 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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He didn't just leave his home and go on the run. Remember, he apparently went to a party at some point, too.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:08 | Link to Comment azzhatter
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after he had a nice workout at the gym

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:34 | Link to Comment fuu
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And went to classes.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:43 | Link to Comment Aegelis
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Typo, it was supposed to read, "The FBI brought to his room, among other things, a large pyrotechnic, a black jacket and a white hat of the same general appearance as those worn by Bomber Two at the Boston Marathon on April 15, 2013, and BBs."

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:45 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
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bizarro world: 

real world:

 

"The FBI constructed a pressure cooker bomb similar to the one the CIA told them they used for the bombing, and then found it in Suspect #2's SUV."

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:55 | Link to Comment aerojet
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Answer #1:  Yes, he's that stupid.

Answer #2:  They were planted there.

I think #1.  Here's why:  With all the other evidence against the guy, why bother to plant more?  The two idiots had no escape plan at all.  They never thought through anything past the point of dropping off the explosives and un-assing the immediate area. 

The real truth is that Homeland Security is a complete joke, and we all knew that already--two completely useless assholes managed to plant a couple of small bombs right under the nodes of all that security.  But truly, I can't decide which faction has more stupidity on its side.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:06 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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Whether the official story is true or not, this incident will be used as an excuse to ramp up the police state. The government's security apparatus was either wholly incompetent or willfully complicit, but the answer to the security problem will be the same answer given for every government problem — moar government.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:13 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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The figurehead face may change, but the techniques remain the same.

BushBama

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:37 | Link to Comment Ignatius
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"Forget it, Jake.  This is Chinatown."

Total fucking weirdness:  http://buelahman.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/are-you-just-a-believer-or-do-...

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:03 | Link to Comment 22winmag
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+1

 

Just like the Sandy Hook Hoax, any first year paramedic or cop or emergency responder knows that this "crime scene" smells to high heaven and something is clearly wrong with it.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 17:46 | Link to Comment kill switch
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+100,000

Loved China Town         Great Connection BRO!!!

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:36 | Link to Comment kchrisc
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And don't forget the "Freedom Medals."

All those that "failed" and should be held accountable will just award each other "Freedom Medals" like after 9/11.

I guess that providing the reason for pissing-away more billion$ in "oppression" hardware and centurions is worthy?!

I look forward to their next iteration of "connect-the-dots-to-war" like the one that led to Iraq, except this one will lead to Iran.        hujel

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:49 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
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Exactly.  People point out the Craft Int'l guys, and really, whether they did the bombing or not is irrelevant.  Because they SURE AS HELL didn't stop it from happening, all of 25 feet from them.  Thats the real crime.  We don't need MORE security, competent, non-negligent security is enough.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 21:04 | Link to Comment kchrisc
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Want to hear a one world joke? TSA. LOL

Made me think of a "question." What is the bigger crime, the ghetto or the the TSA that employes them?   hujel

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:06 | Link to Comment Common_Cents22
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additionally, they would have had plenty of time when on the run to send out information on social media to their innocence or being set up etc.....the only people mentioning that were their parents, after the fact.

why the heck did their asylum parents leave America anyway if it was so bad in Chechnya???

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:39 | Link to Comment defencev
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why the heck did their asylum parents leave America anyway if it was so bad in Chechnya???

This is a wrong question. The right question: Why do we allow all these fucking muslims in?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 17:19 | Link to Comment Common_Cents22
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agree, but its odd the two parents that claim conspiracy are the ones who left the country after being protected by asylum.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 18:10 | Link to Comment Jugdish
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This is a wrong question. The right question: Why do we allow all these fucking muslims and jews in?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 18:18 | Link to Comment defencev
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Jews do not blow up American cities. Neither do Italians, Irish etc. After all, these is a country build by immigrants...

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 18:32 | Link to Comment PhilofOz
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Ha ha, that's easy. Because they discovered that living in the USSA was worse than living in Chechnya.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 20:10 | Link to Comment NaN
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DHS is a big waste of money, but I wouldn't call them a joke since that would imply it would be possible to do a better job. The time between dropping off the bag and explosion was less than 2 minutes. I have only seen an unattended bag once in an airport (in TX), and it sat there for 5-10 minutes before it was removed by security. 

The fact is that the security measures required to fully prevent attacks are indistinguishable from totalitarian government. NK doesn't have a terrrist problem. Saddam Hussein did not have a terrrist problem.

 

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:40 | Link to Comment Julia
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Was the lower grade IED a smaller pressure cooker or perhaps a food mill?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 18:38 | Link to Comment Common_Cents22
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I think it was the Slap Chop,  How do you like my nuts????

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:16 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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printed up years ago- all the FBI had to do was add the dates.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:38 | Link to Comment General Decline
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Yup. Just like the Patriot Act and 911

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:16 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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I'm getting old and soft. There is no victory, and certainly no justice, in Boston. All I see is children killing children, then the parents of the murdered who are suddenly in grief with no real explanation but that which faith and time MAY provide, that 8-yr-old who could have easily been my own cheering me on at the finish line who I could not have known to save, and then the parents of the murderers, who realized far too late that their children were lost to the depraved ideologies of twisted, ancient orthodoxy, and could not face that when it happened, only now can not escape it, and instead face remorse, shame, indignity, disgrace, loss, grief, anger. I can not say rah rah rah America for the purple lung-blood stained corpse of a killer laid out on a table. Maybe I've changed too many diapers, but it did not look like victory there, with gaping holes and gashes, that was somebody's child that went far far astray, now lying naked and motionless. Children are committing atrocities, against children, in this nation.
Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:17 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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That said, I just bought a krugerrand, 1/4 eagle, and 1/4 kangeroo at Texas Metals. 

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:25 | Link to Comment Simplifiedfrisbee
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I never knew one weapon of mass destruction made with a crock pot can not kill people and another made with tax payer money can. We need help, someone call Bernanke and reconcile.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:55 | Link to Comment toys for tits
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PAF,

At least the dominant parent fervently supports the Chechnyan separatist movements.

You don't name your kid after the leader of a revolution unless you support that revolution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzhokhar_Dudayev

Or name your kid after a well respected muslim leader is Asia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamerlane

 

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:19 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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if you REALLY want to see alot of dead children look no further than the collateral damage from our drone attacks in the ME.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:21 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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Yes, exactly.  With our children at the joysticks.  Twisted, old, evil men committing our sons to murderous ideology.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:26 | Link to Comment HelluvaEngineer
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I often wonder if they just think they are playing XBox...

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:34 | Link to Comment Zer0head
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or the south side of chitown

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:42 | Link to Comment General Decline
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You know why Chicago is so windy? Cause Cook County sucks.

I'll be here all week.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:18 | Link to Comment redpill
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What did the muzzie Terminator say?

 

 

 

Allah be back!

 

Don't forget to tip your waitresses!

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:42 | Link to Comment Precious
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H: Hi honey I'm home.

W: How'd it go?

H: Just another day at the office.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:32 | Link to Comment AlaricBalth
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Roger Waters - The Bravery of Being Out of Range

Hey bartender over here
Two more shots
And two more beers
Sir turn up the TV sound
The war has started on the ground
Just love those laser guided bombs
They're really great
For righting wrongs
You hit the target
And win the game
From bars 3,000 miles away
3,000 miles away
We play the game
With the bravery of being out of range

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRfBEVrAmjQ

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:34 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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+1 Profound.

Roger Waters is a genius - I'll add this to my "why" list.

"What God wants, God gets."

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:53 | Link to Comment Disenchanted
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re: "Roger Waters is a genius"

I've just very recently come to that conclusion as well...

 

"What God wants, God gets." (with J. Beck on guitar)

 

What God wants God gets
Don't look so surprised
It's only dogma
The alien prophet cried
The beetle and the springbok
Took the Bible from its hook
The monkey in the corner
Wrote the lesson in his book

 

I was a David Gilmour man all the way until recently when my son-in-law got me to listen to some of Water's stuff. Wow!

Water's lyrics just absolutely kick Gilmour's post PF efforts up one side and down the other. The song below was prescient.

 

Amused To Death

 

Doctor Doctor what is wrong with me
This supermarket life is getting long
What is the heart life of a colour TV
What is the shelf life of a teenage queen
Ooh western woman
Ooh western girl
News hound sniffs the air
When Jessica Hahn goes down
He latches on to that symbol
Of detachment
Attracted by the peeling away of feeling
The celebrity of the abused shell the belle
Ooh western woman
Ooh western girl
And the children of Melrose
Strut their stuff
Is absolute zero cold enough
And out in the valley warm and clean
The little ones sit by their TV screens
No thoughts to think
No tears to cry
All sucked dry
Down to the very last breath...

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 23:26 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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roger knows how to boil it down - in melody and word and thought

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:59 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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if you REALLY want to see alot of dead children look no further than...

 

...the operating tables of abortion clinics.  That tops 'em all.

[300,000 this year already, 4,000 of which were > 21 weeks.  Not sure why the down-arrowers disagree that these are children are being killed]

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:25 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Because unless they dehumanize "the enemy" they dehumanize themselves. Which is the last thing anyone involved in these political games of divide and conquer can afford. It's "The Big Lie" in a self-directed fashion.

After all, it's not like people can live in peaceful coexistence while maintaining incoherent political beliefs.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:16 | Link to Comment Common_Cents22
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exactly Mayhem, why Americans have a blind spot or willful ignorance on the murderous atrocities on our own is beyond me.

I am talking at a minimum late stage atrocities such as highlighted by the Goznell trial.    What person in America will look at those victims and tell you to your face they are just a bunch of cells?

There is plenty of room for "compromise" in declaring a safe abortion period of maybe a few weeks.   That would cover EVERYONE to have enough time after they know they are pregnant to make a decision.   Anything later staged is criminal.

 

I wonder when doctors remove organs or tumors do they snip them up????  You know they are just cells you know.

 

another key question:   How can a perp who murders a pregnant woman get charged with double homicide?   but a similar woman at same pregnancy stage decide to have an abortion goes uncharged???

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:23 | Link to Comment insanelysane
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just 2 "home grown" killers speaking to each other in a foreign language.

 

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:56 | Link to Comment aerojet
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That's about the size of it, yes!  All just another sordid chapter in our cultural death spiral.  You have to raise kids to have values or they will be barbarians.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:21 | Link to Comment Number 156
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The guy looks like a young Bob Dylan.

Regarding tinfoil, How could you set these guys up?

They were there on video, there are eyewitnesses. I suppose you can have an agent pose as an terrrorist contact, and tell him to wage Jihad, whatever, provide explosives etc etc, then when they do the deed make sure they cant talk.
I personally, think they are not only guilty, but clumsy and stupid, and other than the explosives, couldnt find their asses with a roadmap and both hands.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:24 | Link to Comment SeverinSlade
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Um pretty easy.  Take a look at all the other terrorist patsies over the past decade.

Or you could always just blackmail them into doing it.  People will do just about anything if they think they, their family, or friends will be killed.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:30 | Link to Comment Number 156
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His older brother almost blew himself up trying to fling a handmade grenade at the cops, then he, trying to run down the cops, runs over his brother instead.

However, regarding the other details of the case, We cant ask him. He is unable to speak.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:30 | Link to Comment SeverinSlade
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All based on information provided to us by the State.  Since the official narrative has more holes than swiss cheese, I think a healthy amount of skepticism is warranted.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:33 | Link to Comment Number 156
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Yes, Although I lean towards guilty, Its hard not to have some skepticism.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:51 | Link to Comment lunaticfringe
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Do not argue with nutters. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. In fact, I saw that very thing happen in this tiny thread detour.

It's all one giant conspiracy among thousands of cops, a few wounded cops, media, photography, lab techs, and even a bunch of "citizens" who witnessed the events. They are all double agents.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:55 | Link to Comment Ricky Bobby
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Slaves believe what they are told.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:08 | Link to Comment lunaticfringe
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Nutters defy logic

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:43 | Link to Comment tip e. canoe
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nutter mutters butter gutters

so that stinky shit don't stick

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 17:01 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10008976/Bost...

Hmmm.....  I presume he can't write either?  Did they break both his hands by accident as well?  Maybe he will only be 'able to speak' again once he gets his story straight?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:52 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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Exactly. Where are all these alleged videos that prove everything? Where's the video of the bombers putting down their backpacks? The governor claims it exists but admits even he hasn't seen it. Where's the guy who was carjacked, and who the hell says, "Hey you know that heinous crime that's been on TV? That was all me, dude! Pretty neat, huh?" When did the one brother run over the other brother? Was it after the police had already run him over and shot him, which is exactly what happened according to an eyewitness? When did the younger brother lose his voice? Was it after he was heard swearing profusely in the ambulance, according to the LA Times?

For the love of God, FBI, just release the damned video you say you have that shows them planting the bombs. Please. It would go a long way toward helping me believe the official narrative. As it is, I feel like I'm going crazy.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:10 | Link to Comment Parabox
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They'll only show the videos when it benefits them.  They first wait for a fever pitch of conspiracy theories to emerge, so that if they do have the videos, they can release them and denigrate the people who dare to question the official narratives.  

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:27 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Meanwhile, they're setting up all the strawmen that some will latch onto.

I would assume these two are guilty. I also assume they had a "helping hand(ler)" or two along the way.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 17:03 | Link to Comment The Heart
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Good day Parabox, thank you for your contribution to the whole.

Lets not forget that all those police cars have video, although after telling them here on ZH that this is being questioned, they will more than likely disappear them after they realize the story of the cops murdering the older brother is brought into question. This may be why the fed team was brought in to apprehend the little brother, instead of letting the bloodthirsty locals get him. They really wanted them both dead for the killing of a fellow officer. Try to ponder the anger levels in most of these guys who were going to shoot first, and ask questions later no matter what anyone said. Prolly a private reward was even offered amongst all the boston cops for who ever killed them. This set-up to dispatch the well known brothers might have been in the plan to get rid of the loose ends in the overall Event planning.

A secret between two people is only a secret if one of them is dead.

When speaking about handlers, one should ask who is the suit with his head conveniently turned in this picture showing the little brother with a pack on still? Has HE been identified? Why does he have all this handler energy on him? Granted this may be just a fluke guess, but all this needs further looking into by real truth-seekers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bjocGidSLJw

So here is the final run-down and a sad reality to now know. After the world saw the roll-out of the new marxist-nazi's dressed in nazi-black raid and conquer a whole town over what would normally be just another thing in any other town or city, the world saw this blatant new nazi-germany II manifested in the worlds face on the national drug, TV. Now everyone in the world of finance is asking, why would ANYONE want to invest in this new bankster created marxist-nazi america that has been making war on the world for profits for the last eleven years? Ask, who exactly was it that invested in the last nazi-germany and see if they are not the same evil banksters and war profiteers that profit from all the war making materials that are manufactured. Who exactly is making all these vehicles and weapons? Are they from American factories employing Americans, or are they from say, some other apartheid country that makes war using deception?

WHO WANTS TO INVEST IN MARXIST-NAZI AMERICA NOW?

This whole evil agenda driven destruction of America is well known. What fool in his or her right mind would spend money investing in this evil knowing full well what happened to the last nazi-germany?

Stupid is...what stupid does.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:12 | Link to Comment Think for yourself
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Well, cinematic-quality CGI a-la-Avatar takes hours to render for each frame, you know...

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:25 | Link to Comment The Abstraction...
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I heard they overwrote the old 7/7 CCTV tapes, which were going spare.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:41 | Link to Comment Lugnut
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The tin on this place is more impenetrable than the ablative armor on an M-1 tank. Even if you had a video of them putting the knap sacks down, there would be a dozen posts stating they were paid patsies, or double agents, or look alikes, or it was video p-chooped by the NSA. Just like 9-11, the moon landings, the Kennedy assisnation, or other news worthy events. Nutter is as nutter does.

Why does the concept of Muslim extremism rearing its head in the US cause such phking cognitive dissonance? Sunnis and Shiites blow each other (and Christians) apart every day in the middle east, yet we don't cry fake over that. 2 idiots do the same thing over here and suddenly its fake. Grow up kids.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:59 | Link to Comment adr
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Did they plant the bombs? Most likely, yes.

The question is why and how. There are so many holes in the story. The fact that the brothers were known to the FBI and tracked by them, yet they show up and plant bombs on the same day there is a terror training exercise. The fact that there was a planned bombing exercise happening on the street of the finish of the Boston Marathon doesn't seem strange?

You don't think that it is odd that they claim there were detonated devices found in the car. The brothers were on foot running from the cops, and were carrying exploded pressure cooker bombs with them? They carjacked a guy and threw the already exploded bombs in the trunk of the car?

Muslim extremists blow up each other and kill hundreds with each bomb. For all intensive purposes the bombs planted by the Boston bombers were complete duds. A few pounds of low grade construction explosives would have caused more destruction.

We were told that while the bombs themselves were low grade, the detonators were not. If you believe the report here, the bombs were set off using hobby fuses. The earlier reports made the claim that the bombs used cell phone triggers. Is this no longer the case.

Are you forgetting the FBI setting up the NY bomber.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:41 | Link to Comment Boozer
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@adr - I think you meant, "for all intents and purposes".  Btw I enjoy your posts.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 18:06 | Link to Comment Jugdish
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I never understood why you came all the way over here from the Fox comment section sir. ? The intellecutial discourse is so much higher level over there and it's where all the grown ups like yourself and Sean Hannity and Bill O' have the real conversation. Do us all a favor and go fuck yourself. Turn the TV back on and go back to sleep. Pay your fuckin taxes, give your children to the state, eat your fast food, and watch your free gay porn. Wind down at night with a little O'reilly Factor, get the hard hitting investigative journalism in the raw. Fuck yourself.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 18:08 | Link to Comment Lost Word
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Ablative armor on M1 Tank is Classified.

I know something about it, when I worked for M1 Tank builder Gen. Dynamics near Detroit many years ago.

When I worked at GD, the Bilderbergers tried to recruit me. I turned them down.

Truth is always Classified when the Government wishes to hide the truth

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:44 | Link to Comment Paveway IV
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"That was all me, dude!"

You're forgetting the part where he takes the magazine out of the pistol to show the guy he's really got bullets. 'Cause you know how skeptical victims are nowdays when you point a gun in their face.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:58 | Link to Comment adr
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Trained government agents might do that. At least they do in the movies.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:14 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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Marvin...have you seen the pic of the post-mortem elder boomer?  Does he look like he was run over to you?

(not so much...)

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 17:22 | Link to Comment The Heart
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Sad to say it, but he actually looks like a wax dummy at the movie-waxland exhibit.

Reading the above blabbeling, one has to note how they indicate they did not know who these kids were, and even went as far as to ask the public for help in identifying these guys, when they had to have had them under observation/monitoring 24/7 for years. This was one heck of a false flag op that was no more that a bombing exercise preplanned, and executed. Too bad 95% of the world is NOT accepting it.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 20:22 | Link to Comment NaN
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Mayhem-k: and how many run-over bodies have you evaluated at in your career as an arm chair forensic specialist? 

 

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:09 | Link to Comment Yes We Can. But...
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If the Gubmint needs, for purposes of mollifying a suspicious citizenry, someone to play Dzokhar Tsarnaev in a grainy YouTube video clip showing Tsarnaev setting his backpack down where one of the pressure-cooker bombs went off, I'd suggest that they cast Sean Penn.

And if the Gubmint has no need to produce such a video, then by all means, do produce the exising real video clip for one and all concerned citizens to view.  Surely, it must exist.  Right?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:47 | Link to Comment Totentänzerlied
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It did, but like the 9/11 video from the Pentagon gas station, it had to be carefully destroyed. For the children.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:59 | Link to Comment Yes We Can. But...
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2007: "... blah blah blah, the most open and transparent administration in history, blah blah blah ..."

2013:  the most openly and transparently dishonest administration in history?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 18:15 | Link to Comment Lost Word
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Sure, as real as Obummer's Birth certificate.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:31 | Link to Comment The Abstraction...
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Q. What do you call someone who always believes everything government tells them.

A. Stupid.

 

I for one will be happy to wrap myself in tinfoil when I know my assailant is using microwave or electrical weapons. You will be gloating that you are not as you writhe in electrocution.

Good day, chump.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:38 | Link to Comment JustObserving
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The guy looks like a young Bob Dylan.

Probably sings better than Dylan though - too bad they hurt this throat. 

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:59 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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How symbolic is that? We cannot hear the alleged bomber deny involvement with his own voice. He has been 'silenced'.

When I saw the image of the medic working on his throat I turned to Mrs. Cog and said "I bet his voice box will be damaged and he will be unable to speak in his defense." Sure enough 24 hours later we hear he "may" not be able to speak because of his injuries.

This entire charade is freaking surreal and totally unbelievable.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:12 | Link to Comment lunaticfringe
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Precision shooting CD. They couldn't kill him because of some secret edict- so they aimed at his larynx to silence him.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:14 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Actually I was thinking about the medical treatment he (allegedly) received.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 17:34 | Link to Comment The Heart
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"This entire charade is freaking surreal and totally unbelievable."

Grand greetings to you and Mrs. Cog, sir.

Here is a question to all the babylonians that have recently infiltrated ZH:

WHY were they having a 'controlled explosion' drill by the Boston bomb squad that day, during the race?

 

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 18:13 | Link to Comment Poor Grogman
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Coincidentally it would seem, bomb drills are sometimetimes conducted which accurately predict the exact terrorist events of that day.

 

Perhaps some statistician can calculate the chances of this happening on multiple occasions as my calculator has run out of digits, even with scientific notation enabled.

 

 

http://www.globalresearch.ca/7-7-mock-terror-drill-what-relationship-to-...

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 23:34 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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and of course those five pesky flight exercises on another infamous day

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:44 | Link to Comment Ignatius
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It ain't me, babe

No, no, no

It ain't me, babe

It ain't me you're lookin' for, babe

 

      -- Bob Dylan

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:40 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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Just look at the '93 WTC bombing you dumb bastard, in which the FBI was busted by tape recordings from an insider and had to admit they set up the bombing themselves! DUH? Everyone already forgot about that? 

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 18:58 | Link to Comment PhilofOz
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"Regarding tinfoil, How could you set these guys up?"

 

It's so ridiculously simple I don't know why you'd ask the question. You're told you will be part of a terrorism exercise program. You will play the part of the bad guy, but it's all fake, maybe a smoke bomb to give some realism in your backpack, but absolutely nothing harmful to anyone. No one knows these brothers movements and contacts in the weeks leading up to this and no one is going to find out. Just like the London 7/7 "terrorists" that all bought return tickets back home that day.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:16 | Link to Comment Hannibal
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FBI: the same folks who "protected" JFK?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:22 | Link to Comment Bastiat
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Nope, that was the Secret Service. At that time the Secret Service was in the Treasury Department, not the DOJ.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:16 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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JFK died over silver.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:16 | Link to Comment 22winmag
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JFK died because he was all about starving the war machine...

 

http://www.amazon.com/Legacy-Gearge-Walker-Herbert-Kennedy/dp/B002Q79WMM/

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 20:14 | Link to Comment indio007
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Kennedy died because he was on the wrong side of a bullet.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:33 | Link to Comment Edward Fiatski
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Treasury, eh? In the tighest grip of the Money Masters. :)

Explains the stand down just before the shot.

*Click* *Click*

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 18:20 | Link to Comment Lost Word
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FBI was involved in the JFK Conspiracy, although not the most direct protection agency SS.

Army, Navy, Air Force, CIA, Joint Chiefs of Staff, also all involved in JFK Conspiracy and Coverup, to some degree.

32nd or 33rd Degree Freemasonry allied with the Banksters.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:29 | Link to Comment Edward Fiatski
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That was the Secret Service.

"JFK assassination: Secret Service Standdown"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY02Qkuc_f8

Orders are orders; if the CIA wants him dead, the subordinate support ABCs will comply, as seen above.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:18 | Link to Comment Yes We Can. But...
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Sometimes I wonder why stories like this one belong on a finance/investing site like ZH.  But these stories delve into the nature of our Gubmint.  And if our Gubmint is, say, going totalitarian, that would directly impact investing and private-sector finance in a big way

Is our Gubmint going totalitarian?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:21 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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Magic 8 Ball says "You ain't seen nothin' yet"

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:54 | Link to Comment Yes We Can. But...
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"Totalitarianism (or totalitarian rule) is a political system in which the state holds total authority over the society and seeks to control all aspects of public and private life whenever necessary."

Hmmm, that sounds like a description of what happened the other night in Watertown, Mass.....

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:13 | Link to Comment Sofa King Confused
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I personally would say its more Fascist,  they are in bed with big corporations.  ex. bailing out the big banks, fda approving gmos, no bid contracts for Halliburton, sweet deals for Corrections Corp of America by guaranteed 90 % occupancy rates at the prisons and the list goes on, and on and on.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:43 | Link to Comment Colonial Intent
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Whichever 'ism' did it, the people still went along with it, very scary.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:47 | Link to Comment Ignatius
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Coke or Pepsi-ism.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:23 | Link to Comment Everybodys All ...
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It's a guarantee if we don't speak up now. The next generation will experience much suffering from these Marxists if they are not stopped.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:53 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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The next generation? Things aren't too pleasant for people right now, and its about to get much worse.

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 15:15 | Link to Comment DaddyO
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+1

Exactly, I have grown less patient with all the chatter on ZH and other forums where we bemoan the current state of affiars. I read comments on how we should trade this or short that and I wonder if my decision to get out of the markets in the early 2000's was a smart one. I believe it is as I have become wealthier as a result.

Listen, if you are a frequenter of ZH then you are either taking action to separate yourself from the madness of the current manipulation or you are part of the problem.

While it is nearly impossible to completely separate oneself from the institutional financial system, there are things to do to reduce one's involvement.

So are you part and parcel to the system and its destruction of our country as founded or are you here bemoaning the destruction while still participating in its further demise.

Moving assets into tangibles that you can hold is a good start...

DaddyO

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:24 | Link to Comment A Lunatic
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Financial information (Bread) and Murder and Mayhem (Circuses) often go hand in hand.......

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:29 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Uhhmmmm did you just wake up Rip Van Winkle?

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:29 | Link to Comment inevitablecollapse
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let's eat grandma or let's eat, grandma

 

punctuation police - at your service...

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 14:31 | Link to Comment redpill
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