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Full Criminal Complaint Against Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, Including New Details
The charges against Dzhokhar may have been filed under seal but it took minutes to find the full 11 page affidavit by FBI agent Daniel Genck, against the alleged bomber. And while there have been many discrepancies in various official versions of the narrative leading to the capture of the younger Tsarnaev, this is the final, final draft, which means any changes to the story from now on will be greeted by substantial popular skepticism.
Some of the newly emerging highlights:
From the day of the marathon:
- At approximately 2:42 p.m. (i.e., approximately seven minutes before the first explosion), Bomber One can be seen detaching himself from the crowd and walking cast on Boylston Street towards the Marathon finish line. Approximately 15 seconds later, he can be seen passing directly in front of the Forum Restaurant and continuing in the direction of the location where the first explosion occurred. His knapsack is still on his back.
- At approximately 2:45 p.m., Bomber Two can be seen detaching himself from the crowd and walking cast on Boylston Street toward the Marathon finishing line. He appears to have the thumb of his right hand hooked under the strap of his knapsack and a cell phone in his left hand. Approximately 15 seconds later, he can be seen stopping directly in front of the Forum Restaurant and standing near the metal border among numerous spectators, with his back to the camera, facing the runners, He then can be seen apparently slipping his knapsack onto the ground. A photograph taken from the opposite side of the street shows the knapsack on the ground at Bomber Two's feet.
- The Forum Restaurant video shows that Bomber Two remained in the same spot for approximately four minutes, occasionally looking at his cell phone and once appearing to take a picture with it. At some point he appears to look at his phone, which is held at approximately waist level, and may be manipulating the phone. Approximately 30 seconds before the first explosion, he lifts his phone to his ear as if he is speaking on his cell phone, and keeps it there for approximately 18 seconds. A few seconds after he finishes the call, the large crowd of people around him can be seen reading to the first explosion. Virtually every head turns to the east (towards the finish line) and stares in that direction in apparent bewilderment and alarm. Bomber Two, virtually alone among the individuals in front of the restaurant, appears calm. He glances to the cast and then calmly but rapidly begins moving to the west, away from the direction of the finish line. He walks away without his knapsack, having left it on the ground where he had been standing. Approximately 10 seconds later, an explosion occurs in the location where Bomber Two had placed his knapsack.
From the hijacking:
- Near midnight on April 18, 2013, an individual carjacked a vehicle at gunpoint in Cambridge, Massachusetts. A victim of the carjacking was interviewed by law enforcement and provided the following information. The victim stated that while he was sitting in his car on a road in Cambridge, a man approached and tapped on his passenger-side window. When the victim rolled down the window, the man reached in, opened the door, and entered the victim's vehicle. The man pointed a firearm at the victim and stated, "Did you hear about the Boston explosion?" and "I did that." The man removed the magazine from his gun and showed the victim that it had a bulletin it, and then re-inserted the magazine. The man then stated, "I am serious."
- The man with the gun forced the victim to drive to another location, where they picked up a second man. The two men put something in the trunk of the victim's vehicle. The man with the gun took the victim's keys and sat in the driver's seat, white the victim moved to the front passenger seat. The second man entered the victim's vehicle and sat in the rear passenger seat. The man with the gun and the second man spoke to each other in a foreign language.
- While they were driving, the man with the gun demanded money from the victim, who gave the man 45 dollars. One of the men compelled the victim to hand over his ATM card and password. They then drove to an ATM machine and attempted to withdraw money from the victim's account. The two men and the victim then drove to a gas station/convenience store in the vicinity of 816 Memorial Drive, Cambridge. The two men got out of the car, at which point the victim managed to escape.
- A short time later, the stolen vehicle was located by law enforcement in Watertown, Massachusetts. As the men drove down Dexter Street in Watertown, they threw at least two small irnprovised explosive devices ("IEDs") out of the car. A gun fight ensued between the car's occupants and law enforcement officers in which numerous shots were fired. One of the men was severely injured and remained at the scene; the other managed to escape in the car. That car was later found abandoned a short distance away, and an intact low-grade explosive device was discovered inside it. In addition, from the scene of the shootout on Laurel Street in Watertown, the FBI has recovered two unexploded IEDs, as well as the remnants of numerous exploded IEDs.
From the showdown and subsequent examinations:
- A preliminary examination of the explosive devices that were discovered at the scene of the shootout in Watertown and in the abandoned vehicle has revealed similarities to the explosives used at the Boston Marathon. The remnants of at least one of the exploded IEDs at the scene of the shootout indicate that a low-grade explosive had been contained in a pressure cooker. The pressure cooker was of the same brand as the ones used in the Marathon explosions. The explosive also contained metallic BBs contained within an adhesive material as well as green-colored hobby fuse. The intact low-grade explosive device found in the abandoned car was in a plastic container and wrapped with green-colored hobby fuse.
- On the evening of April 19, 2013, police investigation revealed that there was an individual in a covered boat located at 67 Franklin Street in Watertown. After a stand-off between the boat's occupant and the police involving gunfire, the individual was removed from the boat and searched. A University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth identification card, credit cards, and other forms of identification were found in his pockets. All of them identified the man as DZHOKHAR TSARNAEV. He had visible injuries, including apparent gunshot wounds to the head, neck, legs, and hand. DZHOKHAR TSARNAEV's wounds were triaged and he was brought to an area hospital, where he remains for medical treatment.
- On April 21, 2013, the FBI searched DZHOKHAR TSARNAEV's dormitory room at 7341 Pine Dale Hall at the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth, pursuant to a search warrant. The FBI seized from his room, among other things, a large pyrotechnic, a black jacket and a white hat of the same general appearance as those worn by Bomber Two at the Boston Marathon on April 15, 2013, and BBs.
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Yes.
wonder why stories like this one belong on a finance/investing site like ZH.
your answer's in the complaint itself. check out how they claim jurisdiction in the case:
"...affecting interstate & foreign commerce..."
Facts And Circumstances Section A has an entire 4 paragraphs devoted to the negative economic impact and loss of private property. oh yeah, they remembered to mention the loss of life too...once.
On the evening of April 19, 2013, police investigation revealed that there was an individual in a covered boat located at 67 Franklin Street in Watertown. After a stand-off between the boat's occupant and the police involving gunfire, the individual was removed from the boat and searched. A University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth identification card, credit cards, and other forms of identification were found in his pockets. All of them identified the man as DZHOKHAR TSARNAEV. He had visible injuries, including apparent gunshot wounds to the head, neck, legs, and hand. DZHOKHAR TSARNAEV's wounds were triaged and he was brought to an area hospital, where he remains for medical treatment.
Maybe it's the low quality of this image, but does this look like someone that has shot in the neck, head, legs and hand???
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1322742.1366472828!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/manhunt-boston-marathon-bombing-suspects-watertown.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/boston-marathon-bombing-suspect-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-serious-condition-hospital-article-1.1322801&h=500&w=635&sz=30&tbnid=7Dx4jWOH4lQUYM:&tbnh=102&tbnw=130&zoom=1&usg=__JwdSyjlsAjldWJmxpuy5w9mFwRk=&docid=eAU3ivVnIb6aVM&sa=X&ei=aX91UYqTFKLD2QWi2YGwCw&ved=0CHEQ9QEwDg&dur=334
Depends - a lot woulld depend on the caliber, type of ammo, FMJ, Soft Point, Hollow Point etc. That said - I am waiting for the WHY to be answered - as I am personally getting a little spent on ten years of "They Are Terrorist And They Want To Kill Americans - ALL Of Us excuse. We are at war with an unidentifiabe, never know when you win enemy - just like communism. Such BS - when is the Amercan Public going to wake up and discover that without endless war - the military industrial complex has no new toys to make and there for - we have no economy AT ALL?
since these were LEOs, i'm assuming the 200+ rounds they apparently lobbed into the boat were most likely not .22LR or .177 - they did have some scary looking 'assault' weapons though
Most likely correct - most looked to be carrying .556 AR Platform rifles - but still - there are several different types of projectiles used in those weapons. If they were 55 gr FMJ - from that range - then yes, I can definately imagine him looking like that since most would have gone right through him. If on the other hand they were soft points or hollow points - then it would be a quite different story. Either way - the number of rounds they sent into that boat should have turned him into cheddar cheese - no wonder DHS is buying o much for training - it appears they need it.
Guys, you don't know the timing of that picture.
If I was to take the conspiracy angle I would take it on that pic of the guy with the denuded leg bone, not connected to knee bone mind you, and the denuded leg bone man on the ground, supposedly right after his legs got blown off.
Or that could be a red herring. A strawman, if you will, that will make you look like a really insensitive dick when/if exposed.
would think they would rely on HP or SP in an urban setting - would set a bad precedent for FMJ rounds to travel through skin, boats, fences and houses...
It was reported that much of the fire was suppressive fire to keep him in place to take him alive.
"when is the Amercan Public going to wake up and discover that without endless war - the military industrial complex has no new toys to make and there for - we have no economy AT ALL?"
Never gonna happen, sad to say. Not as long as the mind-control drug TV is on the airwaves.
As goes boston down to tyranny and lawlessness, so goes the country. No one is going to stand together to fight off these evil babylonians that still think that some guys with box-cutters outsmarted our 400 billion dollar defence system on 9/11/01, and also believe that fire proofed and reinforced steel melts at the speed of gravity just like the fireplace grate, or their BBQ grill does every time they start a fire on top of them. Heck, if the twin towers melt down at the speed of gravity, surely every BBQ and fireplace grate does the same every summer and winter all over the country, right!
Stupid is...as stupid does.
America used to be a country of proud, and enterprising people. It has fallen into the pits of going nowhereness, and everybody now knows it. Who really supports this bankster created, and owned marxist-nazi corrupted leadership that profits from all this evil in some way? No one wants to work for, or invest in a future of slavery in this new marxist-nazi babylon that is coming into full view now. It is only a matter of time until we see another Event to be blamed on the kids relatives, or some other sorted extension of the ongoing agenda to kill America. Seems like another part of background agenda is to find cause to blame Russia for this somehow. More evil from the world stage players working towards the real agenda of population reduction, and setting up America to lose the next world war. Before they engage in that, and just like in the first nazi-germany, they have to pit Americans against Americans first before they come in to conquer the purposely weakened, and set up country usa for the kill. The nation of lemmings now function more from a place of fear every day as programmed to do, rather than from the heart that only knows Love, and Truth.
The real deal is, these poor uneducated minions still really believe that 9/11 govt conspiracy story, and that there is no reason at all to doubt the reasoning in having drills during the marathon because after all, it happens all the time. Every marathon in the world has 500 marxist-nazi's at it and they always have bomb drills happening at the same time while telling everyone that it is all a drill. Happens all the time. Maybe if we stopped killing people in far away countries every day for their resources and world the domination plans of the neocon bankster zionazistas, etc (geeze, evil has so many names) like nazi-germany did, there might not be anyone who wants to harm America, or real Americans. More people fear their own govt, than they do any govt sponsored terrorist patsys. Who wants to support that?
What happened here is these kids got their call (as spoken to here) to go down and participate in this false flag (training drill) event, but got double-crossed and set up to be the non-talketive patsys instead. All the evidence from many many sources points directly to that, unless of course, they show plain as day video of these kids actually physically placing these devices that were more Disneyland, than real destructive explosives.
And no babylon, we the People do not want to see any more of your antics in these evil deeds gone wrong. Own it and stop it. Bring all our troops home now to their families, close all those VERY EXPENSIVE bases, and lets make peace with the world instead. How about it babylon? Invest in the rebuilding of America, jobs, happiness, abundance that is there, and not these prehistoric world-domination games, again. It is OK. People can be secure, happy, and have plenty to share, world-wide. It is possible, but that gate of self-salvation is rapidly closing as new contracts investing in the hell that will succumb you all keeps on keeping on.
Choices.
All the elements of this crime, and yes, it is a crime against innocent people perpetuated by those who will directly profit from the evil event are plain as day. It will be a grand presentation against the accused in a court of law (if the child is not assassinated by those chosen people at that synagogue of satan hospital). Sadly, the details in this case, unless they are created after the fact and publicized, may never be heard. There is plenty of evidence that will not be covered up that has already spoken loudly about WHO, is actually guilty of this horrible event. Qui Bono?
In this new paradigm of dumbed down sheeple, this is just another part of the grand cycle of bankster profits from war, death, and destruction. We might as well all start calling, labelling, printing, and saying everyone and everything that used to be the united States of America is now to be called the marxist-nazi state of what used to be the united States of America. All slaves will now ware BLACK!
How many of you had grandparents that went to war against guys in uniforms doing such things to further the fatherland that looked just like that guy, the colonel of the state police? Paging Sir William Banzi 7. Can you please impose his face into a nazi SS commander silhouette very easily for a flash crash comparison...and vision of what's to come.
INVEST IN MARXIST-NAZI-AMERICA NOW>>>BUY>BUY> BUY!!!
IT IS THE FUTURE~
sarc/ rant/
Blessings in all your doings.
It's like Jesus on the cross.
At least he could still talk and when he did he said, "Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do."
Thats coz its from the house security camera when he climbed in, not out.
IMHO.
That is not true, CNN reported it that way but they were WRONG. Look at the photo, It was clearly after the tarp was ripped wide open by the boom arm from the vehicle.
I did read another report that contradicts the report that he climbed out of the boat on his own power, one report said he was pretty much in place and they had to "scoop him up and out".
the surveillence video showed him barely moving in his spot when laying down, just moving an arm a bit.
Poor kid.
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Thanks. Good read.
After a stand-off between the boat's occupant and the police involving gunfire, the individual was removed from the boat and searched. A University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth identification card, credit cards, and other forms of identification were found in his pockets.
notice what is missing from the inventory list.
"notice what is missing from the inventory list."
Boom!
Anyone keeping track of all these points of interest?
Luke, use The Scales.
No mention of the officer shot at MIT. Was that another distraction?
Good point and interesting. Maybe big brother was responsible for that or they just lack the evidence or proof needed to tie little brother to that.
Friday, four days after the twin explosions at the marathon finishing line, the FBI released footage of Suspect No. 1 in a black hat and Suspect No. 2 in a white hat walking briskly away from the crime scene, and appealed to the public to help the authorities identify the pair. We now know this was a charade. The authorities knew exactly who they were. Suddenly, during the police pursuit of their getaway car from the MIT campus on Friday, they were fully identified. The brother who was killed in the chase was named Tamerlan, aged 26, and the one who escaped, only to be hunted down Saturday night hiding in a boat, was 19-year old Dzhokhar. Explosive details about the FBI's scam here:
Another nutter link. They were double agents! Why didn't I think of that?
Instead, why don't you explain why the FBI needed help identifying them?
Still awaiting the official explanation as to why the Forum windows were blown OUT
from a bomb on the exterior.
must be that special brand of physics that explains the WTC buidings collapse that when I was a
structual engineering student was missing from my curriculum, along with 'sky hooks'
and anti gravity loading in non cantilevered buildings frames.
The Forum glass might appear to be only outside, but we don't know how much glass they had to clean up inside. Damage from exposions is not always intuitive; reflections from inside walls could force glass back out.
WTC conspiracies: give up the weak, nutso thinking: A Critical Analysis of the Collapse of WTC - ImplosionWorld.com All Bush/Cheney had to do to beforehand to get the wars they wanted was nothing at all. Just because something is surprising and there are opaque agencies with conflicting goals does not mean it must be a conspiracy.
It's called corroboration. I only spent a lifetime doing it- not that I know anything.
Let me ask you lunatic, does the FBI pay you cash or is it direct deposit?
Ricky Bobby Jimmy...
Each day, I wake up and open my trailer house door. I see the sun. I assume it is the sun. I have no proof of that. Sombody just told me once that it was called the sun and like the neandertal that I am- I believed that explanation.
So I just go along with that premise because heaven forbid- I don't want to call it the moon. If I started calling it the moon, the rest of you might say I was a nutter. And with that, I rest on my case on this thread.
What is a "finishing line"?
Is that anything like a finish line?
It's what they call it in Finalnd
Only when it's Chile.
It's always Chile in Finland. They have to use a slightly lighter Greece in their bearings to compensate.
If one is Hungary for Chile, but desires something with less Greece, there is always Turkey.
And a chocolate Malta makes a nice dessert.
Hey, what's the Russia?
We only bring out the china for chad even though we're still dating jordan and oman
and we like oil with all our greens.
We Singapore song about others even though we aint no luxembourg
no one takes us syria
akak asked:
No, although the terms are frequently confused.
A finishing line is the part of an Ikea factory where the wood grain vinyl veneer is slapped onto the furniture products.
Then they walked to the cast, and people were reading to the first bomb.
ESL?
Probably OCR-text id by a scanner. walking east, people were reacting to the first bomb.
" Explosive details about the FBI's scam here: "
There is this funny thing about Truth. It just feels natural, and good in the heart. When one sees in words that are obviously from a TOTAL place of no-knowledge/experience, or a wasted energy banterous disillusionment, that just makes the heart feel terrible. Say, truth naturally resonates in the heart. Lies and dis/mis-information does not.
All babylon has to do is leash the blog-monkey eep-eeepps, and maybe really start working towards saving the children of the world, the environment, and truly being God's, (not the god money) real people. This marxist-nazi part-two-act, er, three must stop. It makes one really wonder as to why in the holly heck isreal supports and reinforces the exact same things nazi germany did to the real Jewish people not too long ago. Like, if ones people was nearly gassed off the earth, why would they in less than fifty years later in history do all they can to rebuild the same exact monster that killed a lot of people for the banksters in World War Two? Can any of the late night,(not sure what your enemies-of-America names are) please answer that question? Why does Israel not only support the new fourth nazi Reich, but is now actively a huge ginormous part of it all? Is that what God taught? Too build nazi empires for the banksters that profit on war, death, and destruction, and who will eventually use you also in the game of population reduction, and eventual elimination?
Lets talk about patsys.
Big giant kudos to your truth expressed here Ess Intel. Darn good report. Did your heart tell you all that?
black hat and white hat... white hat and black hat... wtf! talk about an open and shut case-- whilst, the grey hat's fade into the shadows of obscurity in a flash-fire identity crisis,... and engulfing a shrunken fish-bowl call'd 'A Red Hat'ed Bustonian Headfake'?
shit,... why not a green hat, or a blue hat, yellow hat, or a bonafide yankee cap? WTF
they should have painted then flourescent...
Clearly, the government is responsible for committing the bombing and for this most recent "false flag." They have framed poor Dzhokhar just like all those loons suggested on ZH last week.
Anyone see it differently?
derp - critical thinking hurts my head- derp.
Seems they caught the old signing in the wrong city trick
He said in a statement he was "Doing God's work." It appears that the other folks claiming to also be working in a like vein, have caused even greater damage to our country, though the media fails to report it as such.
What about the dead MIT cop? I'm too lazy to read the whole thing.
Time to go back to financial stuff guys.
My favorite is still "the public safety exception" to Miranda. It was never meant to operate like this - for days, weeks, years. And the "terrorism" label. Crazy kids shoot many at moviehouses and schools. Just crazy kids. Crazy muslim kids from oil area shoot or blow up people and instant label. In the meantime, over eighty people who we admit are innocent and in custody for a decade are starving themselves on a military base. More than anything, that label has been used to threaten everything we hold safe. Insane, brilliant, & incredibly evil
Big giant appreciation for shining the light on that crime towards humanity so well DJ.
A nation that turns it's back on these people in Guantanamo Bay, is just as dead as they want to be to escape this HORRENDOUS EVIL CRIME that no one wants to acknowledge or correct, even after promising to do so once ago.
Know this: Those who bring suffering upon others like this, will eventually suffer many times more. It is the Law.
And, where is that pesky UN when they are really needed for a real legitimate reason? Oh, wait, they are over in Syria making contracts for their resources at gun point. Iran must be next according to the plan.
http://home.earthlink.net/~platter/neo-conservatism/pnac.html
PRAY FOR THE PRISONERS OF WAR IN GUANTANAMO!!!
Now he can sign the book deal with his attorney.
Pressure cooker = WMD
I guess that explains Sadams WMDs!
Colin Powell must have looked in the kitchen.
that's how we want all our terrorists - barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen
Ron Popeil should be checked out. "set it and forget it"
"Did you hear about the Boston explosion?" and "I did that".
SO THAT SOLVES THAT!!!!!!!! </sarc>
'Did you hear about the Boston explosion'?
Why would anyone IN Boston refer to Boston? It makes no sense at all!
It is absolutely stunning the lack of respect they have for the US population, and horribly they are correct. I just asked 3 - 40 something year olds engineers if the 2 brothers were guilty or not, ALL 3 said GUILTY.
They may be actually relying on the evidence they have seen. They may not read ZH where all the "free" thinkers and true intellectuals are. Maybe they think, the government killed OJ's ex wife.
Or maybe the government says, we got nothing scheduled for the week of the 15th, lets have a bombing, kill a few people and we will all rehearse our lines. The intent being, that the government will use this giant fiction to seize our rights and put cameras on our hydrants.
Maybe it was just two fucked up kids from a war torn country with a case of the ass. Simple. Occam's Razor.
Maybe some of us want to see EVIDENCE first, expect a trial by jury, do not just accept what someone on TV tells us, or prosecutor's tell us to think. Sadly most Americans outsource thinking to TV news. There is a picture of the younger brother walking away after the bombing WITH a back pack, additionallly his back pack did not match the exploded one. Guess that is an inconvenient truth for you, don't worry TV told you he did it.
yes, why do people expect to have all evidence released before trial? they are obviously keeping the strongest evidence for awhile. They want to interrogate him if they can, but will gladly give up any statements he makes as evidence, because they have enough evidence already.
true.
I used to think along the lines - 'just fry him already we KNOW he's guilty' etc. etc. regarding clear cut cases. Now, after many years, I think I understand a little more why our legal system is the best in the world, if used the way it was meant to be.
It was designed, incidentally, by some of the greatest legal minds arguably in history. They must have, I am guessing, well thought out reasons for insisting that even the most heinous criminal receive a fair trial, and proper defense.
Do not ask for whom the bell tolls...
Engineers that work for the Government?
Your sample size is too small.
My brother and I are Engineers, and both of us with experience in Structural Stress Analysis, and we both believe that 9-11 was a US Government Inside Job.
no working for government, I would not waste my time asking them for the time, they would screw it up
Differentiating it from the one that occurred in his pants.....
> Why would anyone IN Boston refer to Boston?
Because they were in Cambridge, which is the city across the Charles river:
"[...] carjacked a vehicle at gunpoint in Cambridge"
So you're saying the carjacking victim was coached in what to say in his statement? A guy with a "Coexist" bumper sticker.
and the rainbow flag
"You didn't do that, somebody else made that happen"
I must say, we've been lucky with all of the witnesses stepping up to secure our freedoms. Let's never forget them and their bravery:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp0mGN_wCYo
I am surprised at a couple of things:
- they didn't mention running over his brother & attempted murder of police officers
- they didn't mention the the MIT police officer shooting
Separate charges to be filed, maybe? We just saw Federal charges, not state. They may never charge him at the state level due to the severity of the federal crimees. Or they may charge him at a later date. It's a lot of work to bring a case like this, a lot of spotlight.
BTW, I think they killed the cop to get his handgun and a rifle or shotgun if he had one.
Killed the cop with what?
Which gun did the suspect already have?
Why don't they just shoot him in the head "trying to escape" and be done with it. WMD's are multi-million dollar devices built by large arms dealers made to kill thousands of people in one go - not fucking kitchen utensils!
How do you further gut Miranda (and who knows what other legal precedents) by killing him?
Yeah or shoot the engine block out as a matter of course.
or put a banana in the tailpipe.
Dead men tell no tales....
Including the time about when they were on the FBI payroll and had to go to some "drill" at some marathon.
Big Obama scandal brewing. Why is a Saudi with massive terrorist ties in Boston being deported after a late night meeting between Obama and a Saudi prince?
http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/abdul-rahman-ali-al-harbi-bombing-person-of-interest-has-6-saudi-terrorists-in-family5-more-are-in-gitmo-47371/
This should be a huge story. We should know by now, pay less attn to what they say by feds/media and pay MORE attention to what they don't say and ignore.
Long: search engines (google algos)
Short: seals and wax and shit like that...
Looks like the ENTIRE NATION and the ENTIRE PLANET owes the Bush Administration an apology as to the definition of Weapons of Mass Destruction.....
Remarkable....
"Boston blast won't revive US-Russia reset ?" again... written by B.K. Bhadrakumar 4/22/13
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/World/WOR-02-220413.html
Its interesting to see this article spreading like wildfire in real time. Each minute its getting replicated and reposted across multiple web sites...
It wasn't me ..
it was a WMD
Obama and Holder got caught in a False Flag. Bernanke got caught monetizing. Dimon got caught robbing Fort Knox. Nobody cares and I'm going jogging.
Keep an eye out for careening black SUVs
An interesting comparison would be to the people who own the fertilizer plant in Texas which exploded, killing 11 and injuring hundreds. Plant had not been inspected for OSHA safety standards since 1985. A different flavor of terrorism.
It all seems a question of balance, doesn't it?
Salt n Pepper; not too much, not too little.
OK: WHY is it we read Miranda Rights in Afghanistan a WAR zone but NOT Mirandize this now US citizen?
Does this give the guy a "legal out" so he can go back to Russia?
MOST CORRUPT ADMINISTRATION IN HISTORY!!!!!
A Belgian man who stabbed two babies and a carer to death after he broke into a nursery dressed as Batman's nemesis The Joker has been jailed for life.
Kim De Gelder slashed babies, infants and their carers after he broke into the Fable Land nursery in Dendermonde, Belgium with his hair dyed red and his face painted white with black around his eyes. [22nd March 2013 source]
Riddle me this, Batman, when did the Joker ever have red hair? That's twice fans of his have seemingly ignored the canon.
What's the right way to pronounce these consonant-heavy names and places?
The following recordings come from a native speaker of Kyrgyz. Keep in mind that while Kyrgyz is a Turkic language, Chechen is from the Northeast Caucasian family of languages. [source - I'd really recommend this one]
That rabbit hole? Hmm. Hai! Please remember, these are the good side of the coin. You might not like the flip side; then again, this is ZH, and I know some of you approve of genocide. (Birthday party irony).
. The evolutionary dynamics provoked by the Joker, with periods of cooperation, defection and destruction of the PG, may help understand the appearance of cognitive abilities that allow individuals to foresee the destructive periods, promoting in advance the necessary cooperation to avoid them
a-ha! excellent find Ax.
This data has all been vetted for public release, and is old.
Tip toe carefully when giants stride the land, and hope the desert mouse avoids their footfalls.
wonder if these young men are con-fusing their Jokers?
Nick Cave sans Birthday Party. . .
I can't understand why, knowing he would be surrounded by thousands of phonecams all taking pix and cctv evwhere, why the young one walked about the marathon crowds with his face fully exposed, hat back to front making it possible to see his entire face clearly..... It doesn't make any sense...... No shades, no changing his hair, hung his clothes in his dorm..... Doesn't make sense
I take it you don't know too many college kids. I call them "Stupids" for a reason.
No, that's not gonna do it for me..... Not plausible
No, does not wash. He had a big brother to advise him on that also. I'll never believe his bro would allow him to show his face like that when it means they would be both caught in no time flat.
Imagine Bevis and Buthead as radicalized muslims. They lived in boston.
if you don't mind dying a martyr who cares if people recognize you.
Remember kids Saddam did not have WMD, but Dzhokher did.
Let's spend a few more trillion dollars on homeland defense, that'll fix it....On the other hand, a collapsing, neglected infrastructure doesn't need terrorists, it'll take out civilians on its own, but we'll have the best protected junk in the world....
Best protected junk in the world has gotta be Tim Tebow's...
Watch the link below - isn't that Tamerlan being taken into custody? How did he end up butchered!?
http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2013/04/19/vo-suspect-perp-walk.cnn
The official story is "That's someone else in the video." Not Tamerlan.
I'd like to know who the person was and why he was forced to strip naked. If he wasn't involved he would have been released by now. Most likely he should be on TV telling everyone why he was arrested.
Another curious thing is the lack of footage; all police cars have cameras and yet we get to see nothing. I'd like to watch the shotout that ensued between the police/FBI and the Tsaranev brothers.
Witrh the technology we have these days, that's easy to verify. Why don't they?
Well now, one has to wonder if these things are parked in the garage?
(Go to min 30) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-9A7pJwyMXo
And, in the face of these drills, how can this be be denied?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaqUJyUBozI&bpctr=1366577899
Someone on Bush Sr.'s hit squad was able to butcher Kennedy's corpse between Dallas and Washington to obscure the obvious frontal entry wound. The chopping up these baby terrorists alive (or dead) by the real bombers in suits and black uniforms is to be expected....
http://www.amazon.com/Legacy-Gearge-Walker-Herbert-Kennedy/dp/B002Q79WMM/
I read in a book somewhere that it was a local Dallas funeral home undertaker mortician that did the initial medical reconstruction coverup makeup.
And then more of the same coverup at Bethesda Naval Hospital in DC.
When a bomb goes off, always look around for the guy that isn't surprised. Learned that from a Heinlein story.
SO if a kid drops a M80 on the street on July 4th, is he guilty of planting a weapon of mass destruction with intent to harm?
We used to put firecrackers in old metal pots to make them louder. I guess we were practicing terrorist tactics.
When I was kid about 12 in Texas on Davy Crocket day I wore a raccoon skin cap and took a musket rifle to my junior High school and carried with me all day. It was an innocient time. Then in High school I remember on one of our entertainment days there was a professional Cowboy trick shooting show, showing off a lost cowboy artform of twerling and juggling guns as well as sharp shooting with low callibur pistols in our school gym. All with cowboy tassels and clothing and a cute femeale cowgirl assistant. That artform is lost, and the innocience of the erra.
In the new marxist-nazi bankster owned and operated Orwellian world oder of what used to be the usa, no one is allowed to be a kid anymore. It ist Verboten!
I remember M80s from my youth. Can't even buy a regular firecracker anymore, can you?
Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/weapons-of-mass-destruction#ixzz2RDxoUHfp
You can always change definitions.
Barack Obama has been accused of reneging on his disarmament pledges after it emerged the administration was planning to spend billions on upgrading nuclear bombs stored in Europe to make the weapons more reliable and accurate.
Under the plan, nearly 200 B61 gravity bombs stockpiled in Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany, Italy and Turkey would be given new tail fins that would turn them into guided weapons that could be delivered by stealth F35 fighter-bombers.
"This will be a significant upgrade of the US nuclear capability in Europe," said Hans Kristensen, a nuclear weapons expert at the Federation of Nuclear Scientists. "It flies directly in the face of the pledges Obama made in 2010 that he would not deploy new weapons."
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US administration officials say the addition of tail fins to the bomb does not represent a significant change in its mission and therefore does not break the 2010 pledge.[source]
Meanwhile, the real bombers get away...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bjocGidSLJw
I've seen photos of the craft guys w/ backpacks still on, after the bombing.
There needs to be context and timelines for all photos and videos.
Well, if you were using a dummy backpack and a real one... You would always have either the one or the other with you. And you could point to all the video evidence and let yourself off the hook merely by saying "I still have my backpack".
Note to all the future false flag planners, if the bomber still has a backpack after the bombing he will be deemed irrefutably innocent.
If the pack doesn't fit, you must acquit.
There was at least one Craft spook who did not have a backpack after the bombing, but apparently did have a backpack earlier.
Sorry, I don't have a link, the link was posted in a comment by someone at ZH earlier
Hory Shit - this local news broadcast from early Friday was shown once supposedly....and for good reason.
It seems to show bomber #1 being taken into custody with no injuries.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS8CAUFFSMU&feature=youtu.be&t=2m15s
"USA : The Creator & Sustainer of Chechen Terrorism" by Sibel edmonds' @ ?boiling frogs? 4/19/13
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2013/04/19/usa-the-creator-sustainer-of-chechen-terrorism/#more-19602
T/H pepe escobar
thankyou, Tyler
"...He glances to the east and then calmly but rapidly begins moving to the west, away from the direction of the finish line. He walks away without his knapsack, having left it on the ground where he had been standing..."
Now I'm really confused. This was the second bomb by the Forum - the one next to the mailbox? Which 'knapsack' was that suppose to be?
White-hat Dzohkar dropped his white backpack right by the corner about ten feet behind him. David Green's facebook page now only shows a partially-obscured picture of it, but you can still make it out pretty clearly. It's right over the arm of the woman with the blue-green top.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10200425491872236&set=a.1231720685525.159892.1604384014&type=1&theater
There were better pictures of it on the ground (without Dzohkar) from other angles floating around.
The white backpack wasn't in any explosion - nothing happened that far down. Is this suppose to be what he dropped half-way up the block almost on someone's toes and then left?
the one in bottom left? that's clearly her jacket sliding down off shoulders
Her jacket is clearly dark blue. I'm talking about the white backpack on the ground fifteen feet behind her. It's a few feet from the balding guy in the doorway. It's not part of her jacket - there were other angles showing it laying on the ground.
OJ got off and he might as well have youtubed himself doing it, and these brothers, one dead, one ticket to gitmo --- because of what?
Some grainy knapsack photos and a messy bedroom?
Maybe it was the locktight, carjack victim's recount of the Scooby Doo 'I'm guilty and if it weren't for these meddling kids I'd have gotten away with it' wrap-up confession that keeps this entire fiasco from being one rights violation, with corresponding lawsuit, after another.
In any event, if anyone would be kind enough to post the ATM video footage with the stolen credit card it'd be much appreciated.
OJ was framed by mexican drug lords! haha. It's tragic but you gotta laugh at the fucking stupidity of people that defended OJ. It was the height of political correctness that got him off. Willful ignorance and absense of any common sense.
Unfortunately, still seems a little too eerily similar to current times - 'Willful ignorance and absense of any common sense'
Here's what I wrote on the day of the bombing:
Zerohedge conspiracy fucktards out in force today of course. It's the Elders of Zion, oh wait it's the CIA, oh wait it the Kenyan in the Whitehouse, oh wait it's the FBI, oh wait its Mossad etc etc ad nauseum..
And when some Islamo-facist nutjobs are eventually caught don't wait for any admission by the 'conspiratados' they were wrong. They'll double-down on their false-flag fantasies as usual. Its like arguing with religious fundamentalists. They just happen to know the 'real' truth and no amount of evidence will convice them otherwise.
Sure enough...
You are correct and it amounts to the same logic that got Obama re-elected. The worst president in my memory far and away and yet no one connected him with the econmic problems or unemployment. I suspect a number of this younger generation rightly are suspicious of government but can't seem to differentiate the forest from the trees. Btw that is how many despots historicly have come to power and remained in power.
well reasoned. good show
(sarc, of course)
I'll do this once, and once only.
Life is not as simple as you'd like.
In fact, life is even more chaotic and complex than you or I can imagine, and there are players in the Great Game working long term strategy, players who aren't really even the same species as you anymore in terms of mental frameworks, cases where ideologies haunt shells of actors having totally consumed them, entire legions of silenced minds who cannot believe the swill forced through the central communications.
Your heuristic path is happy with evil Muslims. That's the point of the media; parse heuristic capabilities quickly into an amalgamation that works, and satisfies all of them. From Fox to Alex Jones to the Guardian to the Socialist Worker Party to ZH to all of them. What needs to be co-opted, is. What can be mocked and left, will be. When safety valves need to exist, they will.
Riddle me this: do you really think the majority of ZH readers actually comment, or believe the literal words and so on? If you do, you're not playing properly, and should get the fuck out of dodge. Here's a hint: Paul Krugman takes time on an International Platform to state that he's not actually posting here. Well, derp. I'm guessing he'd not reply the same if someone on Reddit, HN, Biao etc did so.
Oh, and a head's up. "We think the price is worth it". And no, even if I dislike the 1996 Israel clean break plan or the Neo-Con New American Century, I don't make the mistake of thinking they exist in a vacuum. All the Great Game players have these plans. There's no single conspiracy, there's a multitude of massively talented individuals with differing ideologies with massive resources all in a tiny pot, all seemingly unable to meld.
Plans within Plans.
The major issue at the moment is that last time the Game was changed, a lot of the different modal thinkers were terminated with extreme prejudice (and, unsurprisingly, mostly female). [And at this point, you won't be even following this, it's for viewers]. Newsflash: when fish go, things will get messy. People aren't running Zombie outbreak plans (go find it) because it's a real threat; it's a polite way of training for lethal crowd control in societal breakdown.
For the record; Abrahamic Religions all have the same ideological root. So you're all basically killing each other over the same set of principles, just slaughtering over your interpretations of the same fucking idea. But hey, sure, let's bring it all down to the lowest common denominator and revel in it, no? Same goes for Hindus / Buddists or whereever someone is perverting the 'God Mode' part of their brain for violence.
God is not Good.
As for those wanting a second coming, you probably don't. Both sides are unfit, and the next stage contains neither side, if we're playing dualism. Which is probably why both sides of this coin aren't interested in actually moving the Great Game forward.
/rant over, go back to sleep.
What an insane crock of shit.
Plans within Plans.
Whatever makes you happy fido. Let me guess, you don't even know how fruit juice is made, do you?
Oh, and you might want to ask The Family if they think that's a load of insane babble. Hint: they won't. Oh, and you might want to skip to the Arlington part of the wiki, synchronicity strikes again.
p.s. Fido: come snarl at me instead of slinking away with a junk. Whoever's dog you are, I'd love to send you running.
Poor, poor kid.
Do not fall into the hands of the US terrorist government.
You'll be dead.
Pepe Escobar:
So this is where a realistic scenario leads us: an FBI/Craft false flag op which, 1) may have gone terribly wrong, thus the necessity to find two sacrificial lambs in a matter of hours; or 2) the sinister possibility this was designed as a little entrapment game to produce the exact same results - leading to further by now almost complete militarization of US civilian life.
The writing is on the (bloody) wall. The final vestiges of the rule of law are disappearing - even as a bipartisan panel had found that George W Bush elite functionaries were all, indisputably, implicated in torture; and that torture was systematic, even though it never led to thwarting any terror plot.
I'm so very sorry for US citizens and for all those who have fallen and may fall under the hands of such psychopats.
To those who are convinced every flag since Betsy Ross was a false one, a sheeple is a sheeple is a sheeple.
EWE are the sheeple, but on what was once a financial website geared toward exposing real crimes and real threats to the economic well-being of the country, EWE have found your flock.
Flock off, and "thanks" for absolutely decimating the credibility of a site that "coulda been somebody", but has been reduced to a joke (much to the delight of those who brought you the Financial Crisis).
Why, if I were EWE, I'd think EWE were actually shills of Jamie, Lloyd, Timmy and Ben, sent on purpose to make the site irrelevant and dismissable. EWE've won. Collect your pay from the Carnival Barker.
Finance is politics.
ewe = you.
I see what you did there.
Anyway, pipe down kid, if you don't like the topic don't read it. I somehow doubt Zerohedge's credibility is "absolutely decimated". Drama much nancy?
"Coulda been somebody"?
Do you even read your shit? fuck YOU ya douche
Chindit, if the quality of commentary on ZeroHedge has fallen, I aver that this fall has been at least equaled by the decline in the quality and intellectual integrity of your own posts here. You used to make thoughtful and intelligent comments, but increasingly you sound like just another 'mainstream', conformist, unquestioning Quisling whose sympathies lie with the corrupt status-quo power structure rather than with those who question and challenge it, which if I am not mistaken is the very essence of what ZeroHedge is all about. If those challenges to corrupt power stray from the strictly financial, is that such a terrible thing?