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PIMCO's Bill Gross Advice In Two Words: Sell Euros

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In his increasingly ubiquitous manner, the bond king has reduced his thesis to 140 characters, summed up in just two words... Sell Euros

 

 

It seems sometimes there is no need for a 300-page Powerpoint presentation.

 

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Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:07 | 3488130 kato
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“And this also,” said Marlow suddenly, “has been one of the dark places of the earth.”
Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:12 | 3488150 Divided States ...
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Dont think Gross has much clout anymore, he isnt on the Fed's exclusive early distribution list.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:11 | 3488152 Pladizow
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Hence, buy $, sell Gold?

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:21 | 3488212 Confundido
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Bearish gold. Remember when they smacked it down upon the announcement of the 2nd LTRO? Check Newmont Mining today. Gold can only keep going down.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:23 | 3488231 mayhem_korner
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Bearish gold in US$, not in Euros.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:28 | 3488260 Pladizow
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If I own physical, it what currency do I own it?

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:35 | 3488307 disabledvet
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"dollars." and given that Canada has been pulling diamonds out of the ground the size of full size pick up trucks going on ten years now "that currency of choice is working as anticipated as well." contrary to popular views being long (buy low/sell high) is not easy. There will be time when I do reccomend shorting (1998, 2006) but right now my timeline is being pushed back another decade.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:35 | 3488320 mayhem_korner
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Touche, Pladizow.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:44 | 3488371 rogeliokh
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Amazing how is FED getting away with this massive printing..
$1 T / year printing operation and Dollar supposed to go up?
And GOLD down of course.
Superior.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:52 | 3488415 Divided States ...
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Yup and wait till WW3 starts, they would have more dollars out there than in 2007 and the dollar would shoot up bigtime when rockets are launching. I mean you have to hand it to them, they cant lose. Maybe thats why everyone is jumping into US Equities.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:23 | 3488213 Abraxas
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Both, Euro and $ are doing much better then my miners, that's for sure. I ain't listening to no prophets no mo'.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:21 | 3488215 centerline
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$ - Could be.  1 year+ horizon as the EU implodes.

gold - Short term sell could be possible.  For those who are trading that is.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:15 | 3488165 kliguy38
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Correct....they told him to brush up on his blackjack dealing skills again.....he may need them to survive when they get through bitch slapping him. He's outside looking in and sitting on a pile of bonds filled with gasoline while he chain smokes camels........gl bill

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:18 | 3488192 Kirk2NCC1701
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He's hoping against hope that his bonds won't go down (as fast) if the Euro goes down first. He trying to make this self-fulfilling on a timeline that saves his ass(ets).

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:20 | 3488201 smlbizman
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completly off topic but hysterical...santelli walking thru the pits doing the set up for his segment and the guys behind him i guess the brokers  are acting like they are using hand signals for orders...but they were giving the finger to the tv and with lots of anger......fucking off the hook....i have it dvred, ...

edit...i would try and watch his segment

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:24 | 3488239 Awakened Sheeple
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Lol, thanks

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:23 | 3488214 Edward Fiatski
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What he is saying is common sense. Even if ECB cuts the rate to 0.25% in May, it won't be enough, as the EUR is way overvalued in the current Global climate.

EU is the largest economy in the world - it won't stay that way without a competitive currency.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:16 | 3488172 Variance Doc
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+1000 for the Heart of Darkness quote.  One of the best books; so short, but very complex!

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:22 | 3488225 tarsubil
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London has a long history with many ups and downs.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:10 | 3488136 PUD
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The race to debase is on!

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:20 | 3488203 espirit
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Who are you?  What have you done with the old PUD?

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:26 | 3488233 Abraxas
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That was DUP, PUD's alter ego. He takes over from time to time.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:38 | 3488353 espirit
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Wow, I wonder if the old PUD got whacked?

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:10 | 3488137 slaughterer
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Weidman/Merkel/Schaüble--quite a formidable team standing between super Mario and a rate cut.    I think Bill Gross is going to get Stolpered.  

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:30 | 3488266 Edward Fiatski
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Where's the logic?

It's the Germans that need a more competitive EUR first & foremost.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:10 | 3488139 eurusdog
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Time to start buying then?

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:11 | 3488145 WTF_247
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Buy Euro.  Sell does not happen.  Every time the Euro should sell it instead is rescued.  Don't fight the crowd - just buy.  With all the news it should be 1.22-.24 area instead its almost 10c higher most of the time.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:10 | 3488146 101 years and c...
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may i add:  SELL GOLD.  SELL SILVER. 

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:10 | 3488147 Dr. Engali
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Buy Euros..got it.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:12 | 3488154 fonzannoon
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Now that we know Gross is not on the fed's pre market distribution list it kind puts him out here with the rest of us guessing our asses off.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:16 | 3488173 Dr. Engali
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It seems like he's been trying to buy his way back in  with his bullish U.S treasury and dollar calls.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:19 | 3488191 fonzannoon
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That ain't going to cut it Doc. Now if he says PIMCO is dumping it's gold holdings....

By the way, Divided States above, a real sharp dude, was explaining to me on another thread that Sprott is in fact liquidating a lot of stuff right now. Does the thought that the biggest Silver Bull is caught with his pants down right now blow your mind or what? Not a bank that can't deliver...Sprott...

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:23 | 3488209 Dr. Engali
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I read that thread, that was probably the best read so far today. I don't know what the hell to think any longer.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:25 | 3488243 fonzannoon
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Let me take your confused state and kick it in the nuts. Look at the insurers today. Met etc. The ones Yellen said she is worried are starting to reach for yield....ripping massively higher today.

I am in freefall in the rabbit hole. Listening to Schiff's radio show. He is talking about the internet sales tax...GDP...what he had for breakfast. Seems purposefully avoiding reality...

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:11 | 3488151 Jason T
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Buy dollars.. concur.. and since so many foreigners have loans denonominated in US$, when that dollar goes up.. them loans get tough to repay.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:12 | 3488157 smartstrike
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I remember some of his other calls during the past several years. Specifically, one such call was a panic alarm to sell US Treasuries.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:34 | 3488293 Abraxas
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And yet, we keep listening to what these clowns are saying. They talk their book, but they can't tell the future. No one can. So, fuck Bill Gross too.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:13 | 3488162 syntaxterror
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Euro needs to go down? Why, because the bond used car salesman says so? Because the whimpering weasel is only POMO-ing 85 bill per-month? Because the euro governments are running 2-trillion dollar deficits like King Hussein?

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:15 | 3488163 orangegeek
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Euro weekly has turned back down to near 1.30.

 

http://bullandbearmash.com/chart/spot-euro-weekly-retracing-drop-early-j...

 

If the Euro falls, the US Dollar should climb - which has been occurring.

 

Could PIMCO be talking reverse psychology or reverse-reverse psychology?

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:14 | 3488169 Sudden Debt
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When will America print more money again?.....

oh....

85 BILLION A MONTH!!!!

YEAH!!! BUY DOLLARS!!! THEY'RE SAFE!!

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:23 | 3488217 LawsofPhysics
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Dollar swaps, bitchez.  No fiat is safe now as the run at the bullion banks accelerates.  Everyone going after whatever physical is available.  Supply lines breaking now as well.  Exponential equations are indeed a bitch.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:42 | 3488360 disabledvet
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Which includes the banks." my view (unverified of course) is that the banks with an unlimited credit line and all the dollars they want "just keep stacking them as well." what's next? "long porcelain"?

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:16 | 3488175 newworldorder
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The euro will be defended by the EU political elites and its central bank, untill revolutionaries with pitchforks arrive at their doorsteps. Short of that, the EU politicians and banksters are fully commited to the concept of the euro.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:16 | 3488184 FieldingMellish
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Its just a race to see which turd gets flushed down the bowl first. They are all turds and all will be flushed eventually.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:23 | 3488220 Kirk2NCC1701
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They're all thieves, and "There's no honor among..."

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:17 | 3488189 poldark
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I'll say this again. The G20 have agreed to keep their currencies within a certain bandwidth of the US dollar.

The G20 central banks can out gun any hedge fund.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:21 | 3488218 newworldorder
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By so doing, they can provide excellent trading advise to the favoured few elite friends. What a racket !!!!!!!!!

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:23 | 3488230 centerline
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Until they can't.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:23 | 3488196 centerline
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Euro does not have a common debt.  If they pop first (most likely), capital is going to rush towards the USD and out of the the Euro.

Solid call by Gross.  Question is timing.  I wager his timing is pretty good and this move is not a quick hit and run.  This is a big move that will play out over the next couple of years.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:20 | 3488199 Sutton
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Which means sell Silver.  bear flag.  Gonna get whacked.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:31 | 3488285 espirit
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Since I only had a little Ag purchased @<10, and that was subsequently lost in a boating accident, I embrace the opportunity to purchase more for less then it is now.

I am a Phoenix, and now have my boat captain's license.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:21 | 3488206 FLUSA.com
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But but but I don't have any euro's to sell...

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:25 | 3488241 The Abstraction...
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My pump,

If anyone wants to buy silver kg bars at a good price, check www.ebay.de Plenty for sale < €700 per kilogram. Buy buy buy.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:59 | 3488439 alien-IQ
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140 characters is far more than needed. I can explain this market in a single word: FRAUD.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 12:12 | 3488535 gdiamond22
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Anytime a bond guy talks currency its a problem. EURs will hit 1.34 then crash - along with the rest of the market - need one more good ramp up to get all the sheeple involved - perhaps even a small gain. After which they will lose it all - AGAIN.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 12:49 | 3488737 Papasmurf
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Buy gold in EUR terms?

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 15:10 | 3489648 syntaxterror
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Sell Pimco Total Return is more like it!!!

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