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Visualizing Life In America From 1983 To Today

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A lot has changed in 30 years - from Miami Vice and Flashdance to Hunger Games and Taylor Swift; but away from the end of legwarmers (and rolled-up jacket sleeves), GDP has more than tripled from $3.5 trillion as household incomes, home prices, and employment have shifted dramatically but not equally...

 

Life in America: 1983 vs. Today
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Tue, 04/23/2013 - 19:59 | 3490875 willwork4food
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Still love the late 70-80's music. Iconic, but having kids lets you see that there are new talents out there today and definitely good music to appreciate.... Weazer,2002,Cold Play, Monsters & Men...just like love-music variations are infinite!

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 08:55 | 3492234 Chaos_Theory
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1983 was really when I started paying attention to music as a kid.  I freaking loved Every Breath You Take and everything else by the Police (and some Duran Duran shiite, Deff Leopard, Journey).  Some stuff today isn't bad.  "Ho Hey" is a pretty good tune.  "Locked out of Heaven" is basically a Police song, as was "Someone I used to know."  Adele's "Someone like you" is probably the best ballad I've heard in my 40+ years (Name by Goo Goo Dolls a close second).  Hit the gym while listening to "Mr. Brightside" and suddenly feel stronger as I crank out a couple hundred push-ups and military presses. 

Based on the majority of posters here, I'd suggest Rise Against being the official Zerohedge band.  Specifically "Give it all" as the anthem.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 19:24 | 3490779 dick cheneys ghost
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Neo-cons just had group sex........

''A group calling itself the Syrian Electronic Army, which is supportive of that country's leader, President Bashar al-Assad, during the two-year civil war, on Tuesday claimed responsibility on its own Twitter feed for the AP hack.''

 

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4371643,00.html 

 

imagine that

 

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 19:47 | 3490812 The Second Rule
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Good grief, these are some of the most irrelevant demographic statistics I've ever seen. WTF Tyler?!?

How about in 1980, folks working at the Cargill meat packing plant in Schuyler, Nebraska could actually earn a decent wage and pay their mortgage. Or that the the town was mostly white and middle class and had less than 300 hispanics. Today the Cargill plant is mostly staffed by hispanics (even after several INS raids) and the living wage has tanked, meaning most of the people in that town are working poor. How about the fact that in 1987 (in the midst of a recession) I could work as a piecework carpenter and actually earn a decent living. Good luck trying to do that today. Every home that is being remodeled in my neighborhood is being rebuilt with dirt cheap, hispanic labor (and I have no doubt that a significant number of these workers do not have the necessary paperwork). Maybe the contractor is white, but he's the ONLY guy on the jobsite that is white. Does this sound like bitterness? I guess it is tinged with a little bit of bitterness, but my point is there are a hell of lot more meaningful demographic statistics than fucking songs and movies...yes?

As for women in the Senate and women CEOS, sorry gals. I fail to see how that has changed anything. We still have unmitgated corruption in Washington and on Wall Street. Rain forests are still being burned down to build shopping malls. Ice caps still melting. Etc. How has the so called "empowerment" of women changed jack shit? As far as I can tell it hasn't.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 19:51 | 3490847 Creepy Lurker
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Not just Hispanics, the government has been importing 3rd worlders from all over planet for 30 years now, as well as throwing open our southern border. 100 million of them, and in one more generation we will be strangers in our own land. It's all by design, and the same is being done to Europe.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 19:58 | 3490870 The Second Rule
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I know first hand of at least three white male friends FIRED by top high tech companies simply for the fact that they had been with the company too long and were earning too much. One was a shit hot C# programmer, I mean this guy was good. But his faggoty boss fired him for being "resistant to change" or some such shit. And yes, these companies all employ thousand of people from India and China on H1B visas. These are the same Silicon valley companies whose C-Suite is petitioning Congress to expand the H1B visa program even more because, as they put it, "there is a shortage of talent." Utter horseshit. Anybody who believes this is a fool. It's all about the $.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 20:13 | 3490911 The_Dude
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The best part is look at the cash hoard of all these companies pushing this agenda.....Microsoft, Google, Intel, Apple, etc......all of them have Billions upon billions in the bank but they just can't seem to pay enough to find American engineers.....

At first I thought it was amazing that our representatives could be so stupid to not see throught this bullshit....then I realized I was the one that was wrong....they see it and are complicit

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 23:31 | 3491509 JacktheTab
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"Resistant to change" Maybe like continuing to use outdated and moronic expressions like "faggoty"?  

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:54 | 3491684 The Second Rule
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I double-checked and this is Fight Club, not Tuesday night needlework circle. If you are an aspiring cadet with the thought police you're more than welcome over on CNET News.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 01:56 | 3491771 JacktheTab
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Had to double check that didja?  Must be gettin' old, you fucking relic.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 03:08 | 3491809 The Second Rule
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It's called irony. Damn you must be hella fun at bar-b-ques & cocktail parties. BTW, it's interesting that you seem to have no problem with age discrimination or white mysandry, but a poke at the gays gets you all riled. Your Junior High School teacher would be proud. You're everything we've come to expect from our public education system.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 03:30 | 3491849 Bearwagon
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You are not supposed to talk about that thing I promised not to talk about. You know exactly what I'm talking of!

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 04:00 | 3491885 The Second Rule
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Damn. I will get the fuck off the porch. I am too old, and my tits are too big.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 04:49 | 3491937 Bearwagon
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Give it three days. Wait at least for Tyler to show up with his damned broom ...

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 21:56 | 3491242 Alpha Monkey
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Seems to me, the gov't is just providing visas, the corporations are the ones going out, recruiting, hiring, moving, and replacing american citizen jobs.

Also, aside from the "legal" ones, I know for a damn fact corporations are importing (advertising and providing transportation) "illegals" to practicly use as slave labor, while also replacing american citizens.

Sure the govy turns a blind eye, getting to arrest a few illegals every now and then instead of busting... say plant managers or something... but it seems the source of the ills lies more with companies than with the government.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 04:06 | 3491702 The Second Rule
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I completely agree. What we really have is a coporatocracy, i.e., government run by corporations. But even so, I don't think this is quite what Calvin Coolidge had in mind when he said "The business of America is business." I don't know. Maybe he did. Maybe he was a proto-corporatist cocksucker after all. In which case he got his wish.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 22:49 | 3491389 gonetogalt
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Around 1962 I read an article in The Saturday Evening Post, the headliner was that the US had reached zero population growth, somewhere around 180 mm people.  I thought this was great, maybe the assholes from Fresno and LA would quit buying up the real estate up on our misty mountain.  Then my old man explained that growth was needed, and why this wouldn't stand...he understood fractional reserve banking and truly hated the FED, hard core gold miner he was.  Then, 1965, Fucking Johnson opens the immigration door...and you know the rest.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:17 | 3491619 The_Dude
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The machine needs to feed.....the Central Private Bank must have more souls to levereage the debt higher....

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 04:18 | 3491903 Lednbrass
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It has been a helluva lot longer than 30 years- that statue in New York harbor is nothing but a crass help wanted sign to entice large numbers of aliens to displace the descendents of the people who founded this place and empower politicians and industry who got influential and wealthy on the collective ignorance of the newly imported huddled masses.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 20:22 | 3490951 uno
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and look at the women (?) in government.  Janet Reno, Janet Napolitano, Hillary, Ginsburg, Sotomayor, interestingly all dems

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 20:59 | 3491092 CashCowEquity
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All short haired ugly fucks too...

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 21:00 | 3491093 Dull Care
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Interestingly they also lack femininity.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:27 | 3491644 mess nonster
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If you want to read about the prototype of the modern dyke/ballbusting feminist woman (all of those mentioned above), read "That Hideous Strength" by CS Lewis. The dyke-bitch antagonist and head of the secret police in that novel smoked a cigar.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 20:24 | 3490956 Doctor Who
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I thought 2013's lack of farming was pretty relevant.  It seems real food I grow in my yard will pay off even better in the future.  I already appreciate it today.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 22:53 | 3491393 Debt Slave
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How about in 1980, folks working at the Cargill meat packing plant in Schuyler, Nebraska could actually earn a decent wage and pay their mortgage.

That was before Reagan signed off on amnesty for illegal aliens in 1986.


Tue, 04/23/2013 - 19:56 | 3490868 bdub2
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Ty's, zh, 

Not sure if you've shown this yet, 

But it would be great to see the New American Patriot!

...A pictogram/montage of all of the flag waving, and official back slapping, with the main focus showing the N.A.P! walking proudly (humiliatingly) out of his house and home, hopefully a few pics showing the NAPs wife looking on, with hands held high over head as told, and if possible, please make sure to show his wife getting barked at too, while he stands there cowardly, or patriotically for his country.  

Can the stormtrooper grope my family as they walk by, with hands held high for America? They have to check my house for America's safety, what about family? "hold your hands up, do as they say----people I am supposed to protect----, dad's right here, it's all for America angel!  Go ahead sir have at 'em...in the name of America!

STORM THROUGH MY HOUSE, not a peep, fuck,,,why not have at the family.

NEW AMERICAN PATRIOT!

Maybe Jim Carrey can do another hysterical vid, but this time showing the stormtrooper fucking his daughter Jane! LOLOL! Do it!!!!!! I loved Firemarshal Bill or whatever the fuck his body of work is comprised of....

Don't judge me, don't get all uptight about Jane, or the fucking Pet Detective. THEY CAN TAKE AWAY OUR FREEDOM but they can't take away OUR HONOR!!! oh, wait, yes they can.  FORWARD!

And All the complaints, "Fucking country's gone to hell, cause of the damn lawyers suing everybody..."  and nothing from them, they all sit there, NOTHING. Fuck them. waste, where is the ACLU, is anyone seeing any of this?

I am a simple fucking engineer, still, you know what I'm going to do...nothing. Not a goddamn thing... but bitch...hell, about to retire...and it ain't me.... so fuck everybody.....

YEE HAW MARTIAL LAW!!!!! go with it...it only gets worse from here.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 20:06 | 3490896 The Second Rule
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Let's do the Wayne's World flashback effect (diddly oop diddly oop) and go back just 15 years. 1998. If I were to tell you that in the next 15 years the government would not only unceremoniously strip you of your constitutional rights, but start surveilling American cities with drone aircraft, and that the NSA would collect every email, fax, vlog, pod, video, and phone call and store it in a gigantic national database in Utah...you wouldn't think I was crazy. You would know I was crazy.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 21:03 | 3491108 Dull Care
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It's remarkable how quickly it took to degenerate. It's almost a completely different society. Back then people would have suggested you move to North Korea, now it's like get out on the street and genuflect to the Obama, BernanQE and the police state.

 

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 20:06 | 3490897 Stonedog
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Outstanding debt in the economy has gone up from $5 trillion to $56 trillion. 

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 20:13 | 3490912 willwork4food
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Back then if I had a twenty in my wallet I felt rich. Today if I have four twenties I might be able to fill my tank up and get a snack.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 20:48 | 3491049 Buckaroo Banzai
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A twenty would get you a large pepperoni pizza and a case of Molson Golden. And several dollars worth of change.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 23:08 | 3491443 Creepy Lurker
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The several dollars worth of change would get you a quarter tank of gas.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 01:23 | 3491733 The Second Rule
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3 silver dimes would buy you a gallon of gas in 1963. Three silver dimes will buy you a gallon of gas today (maybe more).

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 10:23 | 3492658 Tango in the Blight
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Most asshats wouldn't recognize them as being silver and spend them at face value.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 20:08 | 3490900 q99x2
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I must have died. I have not heard a single top single today.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 20:14 | 3490918 darteaus
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Then you are in heaven.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 20:08 | 3490904 Jim in MN
Wed, 04/24/2013 - 02:59 | 3491727 The Second Rule
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The generals and the admirals in the Pentagon still thinking we can move pieces around the chessboard to achieve global hegemony are hopelessly locked in a 1960s cold war state of mind. That geopolitical strategy is DEAD. Russia realized it was dead nearly a quarter century ago and gave up their empire. And they are now prospering wildly. America needs to take a tip from ole papa bear. Stop playing this game of military brinksmanship. Hell! There's no one left to play it with anyway. We're like a kid who's won all the properties on the Monopoly board and all the other kids have shrugged and gone home leaving him to stare at all his red hotels. Tear down the MIC. It no longer serves any purpose.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 20:12 | 3490909 gatorengineer
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fewer liberals now than in 1983..... thats funny...

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 20:13 | 3490914 darteaus
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I am so sick of this equality crap.  Is IQ equal?  Ambition, good /bad habits, studying/tv hours, height, weight, coordination, batting average, fastball speed, etc, etc, etc equal?  Has it ever been equal, EVER?  In any society?

Then why must money be equally distributed now, or else?

You want true equality?  Move to a gulag or a cemetary.

 

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 21:46 | 3491212 Alpha Monkey
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It's not about "equal distribution" it's about equal opportunity for distribution.  You know, like how banksters get to have HFT computers at the core of the exchanges but everyone else has to make due with a trading platform that passes their information through the HFT.  Or gov't bailouts of industries that need to fail while mom and pops go under.  Or tax breaks for the wealthy but none for the poor.  Or different educations based on if your neighborhood is poor or rich.  Or things like banks being able to turn you down for a loan based on your skin color.  To answer your question, no, it has never been equal because some race/gender combination has decided they are somehow superior to all others and instill systems of oppression and inequality ensuring their status is protected.   A change to that would be nice, but it also requires people understanding what the real issue is, which you obviously don't, so please keep your over privileged mouth shut.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:27 | 3491647 darteaus
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Government bailouts of politically connected industries? What country does that not happen in?

Tax breaks for the poor? Earned income credit.

Bank loan turned down because of skin color? Whites are turned down more than Asians. Whites discriminating against whites and favoring Asians?

Different education opportunities bases on familial wealth? Where is that not the case.

Why do you limit oppression to race & gender. Doesn't national origin or religion ever influence it? They should have been listed, among other factors if you wanted to be accurate or complete.

Clearly one of us does not understand things as they are.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 20:14 | 3490915 Siouxwestern
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Reagan won in 1984 with one of the biggest landslides in history. This chart says, or at least implies, that it was 50% instead of 58%. As wrong as you can be.

The chart incorrectly states that there are about 260,000,000 million employed Americans, which is nonsense (about 100% overstatement).

With these basic facts so far off, can't trust the rest of the chart.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 20:14 | 3490917 Kprime
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Money spent on food stamps in 1983,  21 billion.  In 2012 80 billion.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 20:20 | 3490936 Golden_Rule
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I have pondered a long time what happened during the Regan era to make the income inequality grow so large; whether it was policy or if it was a result of globalization, allowing large corporation to reach more people.  One day I'll figure it out.  Some people (like obummer) will say that tax rates can equalize this divide, my hunch though is that intelligent consumers are the only ones able to "fix" this "problem".

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 21:38 | 3491182 Alpha Monkey
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Union busting.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 04:29 | 3491917 Lednbrass
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Quite simple really- Reagan uncorked the genie bottle of deficit spending and made the strategy of paying next generation for a truckload of hamburgers today our standard operating procedure.  No more choice between guns or butter, Uncle Sam could provide both! Once the party that supposedly represented fiscal sanity made this a central plank of their platform the writng was on the wall.  The concept that if you give vast amounts of federal money to the financial industry and MIC everything gets better became enshrined as the "American way".

I remember in the debates before the 1980 campaign when Bush I labeled Reagan's plan "Voodoo Economics"- and he was quite right.  Unfortunately he became high priest of the religion and further institutinalized that view, since then its been a continual downhill slide.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 20:21 | 3490943 Whatta
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out of the 10 movies, I have seen only one....top that bitchez. to hell with establishment entertainment.

 

and who is Bruno Mars? He ain't on my Alt Rock station.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 02:23 | 3491790 Kickaha
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I don't care much for his style of music, but Bruno Mars is a fabulously competent singer possessed with the wonderful voice.  It is no surprise at all that he has two of the top five singles.  Good looking little guy, too, sort of like Michael Jackson about halfway through the plastic surgeries.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 20:23 | 3490946 Downtoolong
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The guy from "Today" looks more like a guy from "1957" than the guy from "1983".

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 21:05 | 3491110 barroter
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Yep!  I see younger kids who dressed like my Dad did.  Ugly plaid shorts, tight haircuts and they golf!

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:46 | 3491669 akak
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And at least in 1983 you could almost always immediately tell the teen and 20-something males from the females.  Today, not so much.  Honestly, the average gay young man in 1983 was (or at least seemed) much more masculine than the average body-hair-shaving heterosexual young man today.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 20:28 | 3490974 uno
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silver value: $14.72 in March 1983, now $23.00

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 20:45 | 3491044 10mm
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Huegy Lewis and the Fuckin News.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 20:48 | 3491046 10mm
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I like a chick with pussy hair that looked like a Yield Sign.Im just sayin.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 21:02 | 3491100 barroter
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1983: Several dozen kids on Ritalin

Now: Damn near everyone.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 01:31 | 3491744 The Second Rule
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A few housewives on diazepam in the 1980s. Now, 1 in 4 women between the ages of 40 and 50 on some kind of SSRI or Benzo. 23%.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 21:02 | 3491104 egoist
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Tue, 04/23/2013 - 21:53 | 3491232 jonjon831983
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According to this Bruno Mars is now legendary with 2 top singles representing 2013....

They missed top 10 financial and media companies of the eras.  You'd see a difference.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 22:10 | 3491282 Stuck on Zero
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Incomes doubled.  Houses quadrupled.

 

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 22:14 | 3491293 AGuy
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"Incomes doubled. Houses quadrupled."

Not just homes, just about everything has quadrupled: housing, quality food, healthcare, college education, debt, cars, fuel, etc. The only thing that hasn't quadrupled is electronics, mostly because the amount of labor has declined and because manufacturing is done overseas using cheap labor.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 23:01 | 3491419 Rentenmark
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Chained CPI says no worries. Fillet Mignon, skirt steak,70/30 ground beef, dog food.  See, you still get some 'meat'.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 01:33 | 3491746 The Second Rule
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Want some ammoniated pink slime to go with that?

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 22:36 | 3491346 brown_hornet
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I knew 1983.  2013...you are no 1983.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 22:43 | 3491368 Judge Crater
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In 1983, the Mafia controlled New York top to bottom and Mario Cuomo was New York's Governor.  In 2013, Andrew Cuomo was New York's Governor and . . .

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 23:18 | 3491468 IridiumRebel
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"Ya don need ten bullets ta shoot a dee-ah!"

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 22:45 | 3491371 Debt Slave
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More women in Congress. No wonder we have a sissy nanny welfare state of massive debt.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 22:50 | 3491385 venturen
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How about debt per person at the state, federal level and how much unfunded liability they have....Or even assets vs liabilities.?

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 22:58 | 3491409 Rentenmark
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Interesting that the '83 movies were original script, while the '13 movies are based on books/comics (except for skyfall).  Hollywood has gotten lazy with their original material...such as Hangover 3...yawn.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 01:09 | 3491716 Midas
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If I haven't seen Hangover 2 will I be able to follow the plot?  /s

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 23:00 | 3491414 Graph
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US today is something like clip from Miss Teen USA 2007 with South Carolina contestant, but with sound off. Elite would like that nobody turns it on. Well...some of us do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 23:02 | 3491421 Cabreado
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I've spent too much of my time this evening reading too many comments on too many articles that all reek of defeat.

I cry bullshit.

The Fight Club grows weary, eh?

All you signed up for was Truth.

You hit the wall of Control.

There are lawful, peaceful ways to reach a light-as-possible landing.

You are not awake as much as you are whimpering.

 

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 23:14 | 3491458 IridiumRebel
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It's tough out there so people need to vent. Here holds a rare view of truth. Fuck you if you can't handle some people voicing their displeasure. I'm not giving up for shit.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 23:28 | 3491462 Cabreado
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Good for you. (sincerely)

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 23:48 | 3491552 IridiumRebel
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It grows in the dark and dies in the light. No disrespect, but I'd be nuts if I couldn't come here and say an anonymous F U without someone getting their panties in a bunch. I see the dribble on FB and wanna gut punch fools. I respect your opinion and hate people that bitch constantly. A lot of people are fed up. I am. Things are not fine. Our country, of which I have had family residing on for almost 4 centuries, is in the shitter and being run by a political class looting what's left and giving anything else to the Free Shit Army. And yes, I am doing stuff about it. You prolly are too....hopefully.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:52 | 3491679 newengland
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Rebel,

I have come to the conclusion recently that we are on our own. Same as it ever was. No surrender, and the rest will benefit, and give no thanks.

God bless you and yours. This is our Republic, our Commonwealth.

My country, tis of thee.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:30 | 3491649 mess nonster
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What are you doing?

Oh, right. Reading and posting on ZH, while you alternate betwen this site and porn.

Keep up the good work.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 23:02 | 3491425 fuu
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Using the BLS Inflation Calculator $89,800 in 1983 is $204,000 in today's money*.

So grats on the +$68,000 over 30 years, although that mostly went to taxes.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 23:17 | 3491427 EvlTheCat
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So fucking women in Congress on the Democratic ticket has fucked up the country?  Check

"Safety" over Liberty? Check

Apple given to Eve? Check

Lather rinse and repeat! Check

 

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 23:19 | 3491473 Dixie Rect
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Who the fuck is Bruno Mars? Is he related to Marvin the Martian?

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:39 | 3491662 Montgomery Burns
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Check the latest issue of rolling stone. He's no Tom Petty but he has a few songs that are alright.

 

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 23:36 | 3491517 adr
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1985 was the best year in the last 30 in terms of jobs, entertainment, and feeling.

1983 sucked for me, the ghetto took over my neighborhood in 1983. 82-87 saw the complete destruction of the first and second ring suburbs of most major cities.

90-92 was horrible.

The rest of the 90's was like an acid trip that seemed awesome at the time, but now is something you wish you could forget.

God, I'd love to go back to 1985, where's my DeLorean?

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 01:13 | 3491722 Midas
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Did you check behind the billboard and under some branches?

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 23:44 | 3491540 polo007
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/where-eight-renowned-investors-think-commodity-prices-are-going/article11435677/?page=all

JAMES GRANT

Aa warning about a coming financial crisis

Tumbling commodity prices over the past week are a warning sign to investors that China’s “economic miracle” is actually a gross manipulation of markets that will eventually have a nasty ripple effect across the world, says an outspoken critic of central banks’ stimulus efforts.

“Something has changed, and more significantly, people have noticed the change,” says James Grant, publisher of Grant’s Interest Rate Observer, a highly regarded bimonthly commentary on the world’s financial markets.

Mr. Grant says the world’s major central banks have been distorting the true price of assets, such as stocks and commodities, by suppressing interest rates and printing trillions of dollars worth of currency in an effort to stimulate demand. He believes that such policies by the People’s Bank of China will prove particularly harmful given that they are layered on top of the central planning policies of the Communist Party.

Efforts by the U.S. Federal Reserve and other central banks to jump-start demand have failed, Mr. Grant argues. Each new dollar or yuan added to the economy is having less and less of a stimulus effect and is instead further inflating asset and consumer credit bubbles. As China’s economy continues to slow, commodity prices will decline further, and it’s possible that China will even slip into a recession, he says.

In today’s world of suppressed interest rates and manipulated markets, financial crises come faster and more furiously, Mr. Grant says, noting that it took 25 years for stocks to rebound from the Depression in the 1930s but only four years for markets to recover from the financial crisis in 2009. The accelerated cycles are the result of distorting policies and they leave governments and markets “more accident prone,” he says.

Investors should respond by keeping large amounts of cash, looking for buying opportunities in depressed sectors. At the moment, shares of mining companies look like one of the best contrarian plays, he says.

Mr. Grant is also a huge fan of bullion, which he categorizes as a monetary asset rather than a commodity. “The price of gold is the reciprocal of the world’s faith in management of the world’s central banks,” he says. “If you believe that they are in charge of events, as opposed to events in charge of them, then you do not want to waste your time with gold.”

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 23:44 | 3491541 Khali_Hath
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Boston Truth Revealed

http://imgur.com/a/Nx8EU

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:34 | 3491642 newengland
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Islamists used the boys, and so did their parents. If any infidel did, then that is YOUR problem, jerk. Typical Islamist bullshit. Whine, and bomb. Lady boy.

Beat up women, and play the hard man, boy.

The boys' domineering mother stole $1600 lingerie from a store. Not the good Muslim as she pretends to be, is she? Just another thief. Pity her boys, and all Muslims, cave dwellers wanting pretty things, killing anyone who gets in their thieving way...much like their paedopohile 'prophet' Muhammed jerk.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 23:58 | 3491571 newengland
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Is it verboten for ZH to mention the hateful creed robbing the world : Zionism.

Is it the job of ZH to divert all attention to trading money and insults?

Zionism is the hateful thing that rigs markets, and makes orphans, all for the Zionists who hate jew and gentile alike, and use idiot Islamists.

Traders,

You are going to learn in poverty what you failed to learn in prosperity. Zionist gold banks hate you. You are useless feeders, in their opinion.

Game over, soon.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:02 | 3491584 newengland
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On a long enough timeline the survival rate of everyone drops to zero....so say Zionists, amoral money traders.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 03:39 | 3491850 Harbanger
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+1, Hello new england, I'm guessing you're a waspy hippie gen chick, probably still a registered democrat.  No kids, with an inheritance and a love of tradition that you can't find or define.

Am I close?

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:05 | 3491599 alfbell
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Hoisington makes a very good case for deflation. Very interesting charts and reasoning. Oh oh... This is going to change Life in America. Here is the link to the google page so you can download the pdf.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=Hoisington+Investment+Ma...

 

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:09 | 3491605 newengland
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Zionists use Islamists, and both are responsible for bombing Boston. 

Western Zionist banks are insolvent, and the rest of the world buys gold and silver.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:08 | 3491604 alfbell
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Here is an excerpt...

Hoisington Investment Management – Quarterly Review and
Outlook, First Quarter 2013
Printing Money
“The Federal Reserve is printing money”. No statement could be less truthful. The Federal Reserve
(Fed) is not, and has not been, “printing money” as defined as an acceleration in M2 or money supply.
Just check the facts. For the first quarter of 2013 the Fed purchased $277.5 billion in securities (net)
as their security portfolio expanded from $2.660 trillion to $2.937 trillion. A review of post-war
economic history would lead to a logical assumption that the money supply (M2) would respond
upward to this massive infusion of reserves into the banking system. The reality is just the opposite.
The last week of December, 2012 showed M2 at $10.505 trillion, but at the end of March, 2013 it
totaled only $10.450 trillion which was an unexpected decline of $55 billion. Printing money? No.
This broad misconception of the Fed’s ability to print money has been widely embraced since the Fed
began its massive balance sheet expansion near the end of 2008. It was then that the Fed expanded
the monetary base from $840 billion to $1.7 trillion in a matter of months. Further, from the initiation
of this misguided program to the end of March 2013, the Fed has expanded the monetary base from
$840 billion to $2.93 trillion. The money supply indeed went up (35%) but not in proportion to the
increase in the monetary base (249%). Presently, the year- over- year expansion of M2 is only 6.8%,
which is nearly identical to its year-over-year growth rate in March of 2008 before the Fed decided to
“help out the economy” (Chart 1). In other words, there is no evidence that the massive security
purchases by the Fed have resulted in a sustained acceleration in monetary growth; nor is there
evidence that economic conditions have improved.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:15 | 3491608 newengland
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Another Zionist screed.

Banks are insolvent, and only tax theft money given to the un-Federal no-Reserve Board pumps stocks.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:21 | 3491634 polo007
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Hoisington Investment Management Company

Quarterly Review and Outlook

First Quarter 2013

http://www.hoisingtonmgt.com/pdf/HIM2013Q1NP.pdf

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:09 | 3491606 Gon2Marz
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1. Should have adjusted for inflation or comparison is useless.

2. Population by gender does not add up to the total population (off by 2 mil).

3. Would have been more informative to normalize the population by industry for each year, else it gives the illusion that "Today" industries may have grown relative to total employment.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:12 | 3491609 newengland
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More bull$hit, zionist screed.

Adjusted for what? More fake CONgress numbers.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:17 | 3491621 newengland
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Cut this crap.

Banks are insolvent. Governments are insolvent. They bail each other out with taxpayer money. This is corporatism, or fascism as described by Mussolinii, the ultimate gangster bankster.

ZH, Zionist placeman?

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 04:50 | 3491936 Lednbrass
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For the umpteenth time, I am going to ask for some sort of hard evidence that either Fascist Italy or National Socialist Germany produced a wealth disparity anything like what is seen today.  A corporation in 1930's Italy was NOTHING like what a corporation is today in the US.

Hard numbers with good sources, no opinions or a misinterpretation of word meanings. Equating Fascist Italy with today's situation is akin to asserting that the "Gay 90's" preceding the turn of the 20th century were a period of unbridled homosexuality due to the use of the word "gay".

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 05:08 | 3491953 Bearwagon
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It is not so much about hard numbers. Read up about Mussolini's definition of fascism, and you shall discover something VERY similar to todays situation.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 21:26 | 3495502 Lednbrass
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*facepalm*

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:20 | 3491626 Gon2Marz
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Just pointing out some of those graphics were pointless without adjusting.. purchasing power of USD in 1983 was much greater than today's toilet paper currency.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:24 | 3491639 lostintheflood
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my husband and i began our relationship 30 years ago, today.  it's been a very fine 30 years for us and our family.  ironic that zh should display this story today.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:32 | 3491653 Gon2Marz
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That's just peachy.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:33 | 3491655 mess nonster
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Sincere congratulations. Marriage aint easy. Finally, someone who's actually doing something positive.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:40 | 3491658 newengland
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Narcissist. Zionist, are you? Or just another useful idiot.

Ridiculous that someone like you appears on this site. Who pays you, doll?

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:47 | 3491674 Bear
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I am really trying hard to understand your response; now I am a Zionist, a Narcissist, and a Useful Idiot ... and he doesn't seem anything like me

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:59 | 3491691 newengland
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If you could give one honest name, then perhaps we might deal with your sort.

Instead, you write like Goebbels, the Nazi Zionist.

Are you 'lostintheflood' or 'bear'?

Or are you just another Zionist, the woolf in sheep's clothing? Rhetorical questionl. Your sort think honest Americans are stupid, and have no saviors.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:58 | 3491696 akak
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Cut back on the alcohol and/or go back on the meds.

Seriously, your incessant posting streak here is nothing but nonsensical and irritating.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 01:07 | 3491704 newengland
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akak, the 24/7  bore on ZH, upset that some people like me defy your agenda.

'lostinflood' and 'bear' are the same, by the latter's reply to my first comment to 'lostinflood',  but try to say otherwise. Lies. Lies are bad.

ZH...on a long enough timeline, you will be found out.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 01:09 | 3491715 akak
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Seek help.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 02:09 | 3491775 newengland
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You pets need help, See 'bear' replying to 'lost'. 

Do you silly munchkins need more choom or meds or whatever it is you are smoking to make you feel safe at the expense of other people who put up money and guns to protect you?

Jerks.

A boy aged 19 blew up Bostonians.

Your sort can play, safe in your silly words, with Graham and McCAin and the CIA backing Islamists abroad...and then that hateful mass comes to the USA, and your sort Party on.

Eejit.

Your sort are most hateful, useless, and vain.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 02:21 | 3491786 AgShaman
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Crybaby....sheesh

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 02:34 | 3491801 newengland
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Cry baby you will be when this story plays out in full zionist technocolor.

The problem with America today is that it is infested with zionists using islamists, and political Americans are too dim to defend the Constitution.

Meanwhile, ordinary Americans do not trust government, banks and those who serve the corruption.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 03:39 | 3491859 Bearwagon
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You, in contrast, are anything but ordinary, right? Are you aware, that you would be amongst the first people to be dragged into concentration camps among those "zionists", you so deeply despise, when "this story" plays out in full? I have to agree with akak on this: You're in dire need of help!

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 09:52 | 3492497 phalfa5
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NE  - up arrows his own post as noone else will

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 02:34 | 3491802 newengland
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akak,

No help for your sort. You deserve your fate among kak.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 04:50 | 3491941 Lednbrass
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You've gone Gullyfoyle.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 01:03 | 3491706 Bear
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Your deepness is a little above my pay grade ... I know I'm not a Nazi Zionist, not like Goebbels, I have neer been lostinthewoods because I am the Bear

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 03:46 | 3491866 Bearwagon
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Climb aboard! :)

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 02:25 | 3491789 newengland
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You write for your lowly pay grade, and only made a mistake by posting as 'lost....'.

Americans are very naive, and fall for your lowly pay grade.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:49 | 3491676 IridiumRebel
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A little harsh for such an innocuous statement. We need more love.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 02:21 | 3491699 newengland
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We need honesty, not superficial lies on the internet occupied by zionists.

Can you see the comment as real or steal? Much like the Boston bombers: conmen.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 02:28 | 3491795 newengland
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Brits and Europeans use the USA for their pay grade.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 07:32 | 3492101 forwardho
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Who pissed in your wheeties?

To the "Doll" you vented at, Congrats on a happy life.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:26 | 3491640 kds_xsl
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trading place....

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:25 | 3491641 kds_xsl
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trading place....

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:41 | 3491664 Dubaibanker
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I would like to know what was the price of local postage stamp in 1983 and what is it today?

And then compare it to price of gold in 1983 and price of gold today as well as to S&P 500 then and now....

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:43 | 3491670 newengland
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Whatver the price, CONgress and banksters profited more than Americans. Then as now.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 00:46 | 3491673 SmittyinLA
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97% of US population growth from now through 2050 will come from immigrants, aliens, and foreign nationals (Not Americans) we aint gonna get richer either. 

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 01:09 | 3491714 Atomizer
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Just send email priority mail. If you think the DHS has closed down this ISP, try to redirect your communication to flag@whitehouse.gov 

If you cannot get any answer with DHS, just go to the taxpayer funded account we gave her to use.

janet.napolitano@dhs.gov 

Sure, she may have changed her email, but under new CISPA laws, the taxpayers can authorize for Janet’s password. The taxpayer’s are her employers who can request the password to access her Email account. There are no double standards in the United States of America. Especially, since we pay Janet to present transparency as a public servant. If Janet cannot share information to the taxpayers, many must determine if Janet is a value asset based commodity to continue to fund. Can’t have it two way .The people must learn from your publically paid position, or you get defunded.  


Janet, you are on our payroll, if your performance/expectations are off.. As Donald Trump states, Your Fired Janet!  Let’s work together to help you. We love our country. You’ll go before we do.. Winks

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 01:16 | 3491721 newengland
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Buy gold silver land, and do not trust zionists or islamists.

Defend the Constitution.

Chill. All will be fine, munchkins. 

Politically astute lawmakers break laws. See Jon Corzine for the latest exemplar.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 01:40 | 3491756 hooligan2009
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well that makes it easy to get unemployment down by 5% ( 10 million )...put them to work in farming, forestry and fishing!

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 01:54 | 3491770 q99x2
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Female members of the House and Senate by party

Corruption has risen proportionately.

Seems the globalists knew something ahead of time.

What better way to take down a country than to put the least qualified into power and also star them as leaders in media.

Sheer F'n Chaos.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 02:19 | 3491785 newengland
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Boy.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 02:07 | 3491773 Joe A
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I miss indebtedness in the chart.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 02:18 | 3491782 newengland
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A new name 'lostintheflood' makes a comment and an old name 'Bear' replies as if 'lostinflood'.

Is Zero Hedge another zionist fake?

On a long enough timeline, you will go to zero.

 

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 02:19 | 3491784 polo007
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324784404578145541490348884.html

The Federal Reserve has been explicit about why it has been holding short-term interest rates near zero and has purchased $2.5 trillion in Treasury and government-backed mortgage bonds to push long-term rates to once-unimaginable lows:

Not only does it hope cheap money will make borrowing and spending more attractive to businesses and consumers. It also wants to chase investors out of super-safe U.S. Treasurys and mortgages and into stocks, corporate bonds and other assets riskier than Treasurys. Boosting those prices, the central bank figures, will make households richer, increase the value of collateral that banks hold against loans and encourage executives—always happier when stock prices are rising—to invest.

Chairman Ben Bernanke and his allies at the Fed think all this is working as they had hoped, though they caution regularly that it isn't enough to resuscitate the U.S. economy nor is it without risks. Critics argue that it isn't doing much good—and that the risks are greater than Mr. Bernanke realizes. Now new Fed governor Jeremy Stein, a Bernanke backer, is arguing this bond-buying might have hidden benefits.

One oft-cited risk the Fed is running is that keeping rates very low for a long time could lead investors, big and small, to take ever-greater risks as they seek investments that promise better returns. That, in turn, could create a new set of financial bubbles. "These concerns should be taken very seriously, and a lot of work at the Fed is devoted to monitoring such risks," Mr. Stein said in a speech last month. "[T]here is some qualitative evidence of reaching-for-yield behavior in certain segments of the market, but we are not seeing anything quantitatively alarming at this point. Of course, the worry is that one often sees only the tip of the iceberg in these kinds of situations."

It isn't hard to spot bubble candidates. The price of farmland has been soaring. The U.S. Department of Agriculture's measure has risen 28% in two years. And Merrill Lynch's index of high-yield debt—borrowing by companies politely labeled "below investment grade"—is up 12% in the past year.

But Mr. Stein pointed to one way in which the Fed's bond-buying, quantitative-easing extravaganza might be contributing to financial stability. It is encouraging companies to rely less on short-term borrowing. That is welcome. "A major source of problems during the recent crisis," he said, was that firms, particularly in finance, "were relying too much on short-term debt." That left them exposed when markets panicked in 2008 and rolling over short-term debt became difficult, often impossible.

Before Mr. Stein left Harvard for the Fed, he and colleagues Robin Greenwood and Samuel Hanson showed statistically that when the federal government does a lot of its borrowing at shorter maturities, companies tend to do a lot of their borrowing at longer maturities, and vice versa. By reducing the supply of long-term Treasurys in the market, the Fed's heavy purchases are akin to the government borrowing more short-term.

There is a wrinkle. While the Fed is subtracting from the market's stock of long-term Treasurys, the Treasury itself seems to be fighting the Fed. It is adding to the supply of long-term Treasurys by selling more of them. The average maturity of the Treasury's debt outstanding has been growing for years. At the end of September, it was 64.4 months, well above the 30-year average of 58.1 months.

The Treasury's official explanation: We're trying to finance the government at the lowest cost to taxpayers. We aren't using a borrowing mix to influence the macro economy, and we aren't coordinating with the Fed on this. As the chart accompanying this column illustrates, the Fed's recent purchases of long-term Treasurys have more than offset the Treasury's moves in the opposite direction.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 02:46 | 3491806 newengland
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Ben is doing a runner, as we say in old blighty. He won't be at Jackson Hole. 

Your problem, Zionists.

The BIS is most displeased with your sort, mere traders and certain central banksters.

Zionists never accept responsibility for their failures, and grift off all.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 02:48 | 3491811 polo007
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-24/asian-stocks-gain-on-u-s-growth-signs-as-kiwi-rises-with-crude.html

European stock-index futures rose with Asian equities as slower-than-estimated Australian inflation boosted speculation central banks will step up economic stimulus. New Zealand’s dollar climbed while copper rebounded after sliding into a bear market and gold advanced.

The Euro Stoxx 50 Index futures gained 0.3 percent as of 7:01 a.m. in London, signaling the region’s shares may extend their biggest increase since August. Contracts on Standard & Poor’s 500 Index rose 0.1 percent. The MSCI Asia Pacific Index climbed 1.2 percent, the most in two weeks as Australia’s S&P/ASX 200 gauge advanced a fourth day. The kiwi strengthened by 0.5 percent to 84.36 U.S. cents. Copper rallied 1.4 percent in London and gold jumped 1.2 percent.

Australia’s central bank has more room to cut interest rates, Treasurer Wayne Swan said today, after the government reported inflation eased to 0.3 percent from the previous quarter. The Bank of England said it will extend its plan to provide cheap loans to companies and consumers and make credit available for small businesses. Reports today may show Germany’s business climate worsened while U.S. durable goods orders slid.

“There are still heightened expectations of central-bank action,” said Stan Shamu, a markets strategist at IG Markets Ltd. in Melbourne, a provider of trading services in currencies and equities. “The economy in the U.S. is hitting that sweet spot where it’s not bad enough to worry investors but not strong enough for the Federal Reserve to start withdrawing stimulus.”

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 03:09 | 3491834 Dre4dwolf
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WE have THAT MANY woman in govt? No wonder everything is falling apart, they are voting on bills based on emotion instead of logic.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 03:25 | 3491839 newengland
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You have too many paedophiles and zionists in CONgress. That's a man problem.

And O'bomba approves insider traiding by government employees, and approves a tax on internet sales.

You are a fool.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 03:41 | 3491862 Bearwagon
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While you seem to be a retarded scholar of AnAnonymous ....

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 03:35 | 3491856 Stinko da Munk
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I don't know what the fuck the rest of you are blathering on about but I think the music in 1983 was much better.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 03:38 | 3491860 AnAnonymous
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Hopefully, to fit fantasical perceptions by 'americans', never forget that 'america' grew poorer during these last three decades.

Been growing poorer since USD was unpegged from gold, since 1913, since 1871 etc

Yeah, 'america' has grown poorer...

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 03:55 | 3491879 akak
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My 'american' loins yearn for you, AnAnonymous.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 04:28 | 3491911 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Other people, well, they know that 'AnAnonymism' stands very high in the list of systems that roots deep in fantasical references...

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 04:38 | 3491924 Bearwagon
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Here! Here! I do!

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 03:47 | 3491868 are we there yet
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Dollar values in 83 and now should be in amounts of gold.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 04:40 | 3491926 falak pema
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well the economy created more wanking jobs in "management" of derivatives than it destroyed in farming and fishing.

So ... "we've never had it so gooooodddd!"

As Harold Macmillan said to the UK in 1959 ! 

Awesome omen.

Wed, 04/24/2013 - 05:13 | 3491946 The Heart
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In 1983, we all had visions of world wars, but were so close to the elders that still spoke to being captured by the Germans and escaping in WW II, twice, that we did not really consider the around the corner planned world war three, or that the real possibility of using weapons of mass destruction on whole populations would ever ever be considered again. Heck, we had already graduated from our Duck and Cover classes knowing, surly they would not be stupid enough to let the banksters start another world war after two already proving how horrible war really is, and surly they would not spend decades making the USA look really bad to the rest of the world by doing exactly as nazi-germany did, and surly they would not start another world war so those same evil satanic banksters could profit from setting up America turned into a marxist/zionist/nazi state/empire of dust to lose the third world war. Would they? Just say it ain't so Joe!

http://blogs.aljazeera.com/topic/syria/syrian-troops-and-rebels-battle-o...

Now in this day one wonders, just what in the heck are those crazy babylonian bankster puppet zionist marxist-nazi's going to do next? Why does America support this kind of nazism both at home, and abroad? This "rebel" army in Syria is no less than a bunch of paid off murderous Godless mercenaries. There goes Americas tax dollars at work while many are starving at home, and guess what? THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO NOT SUPPORT THE OUT OF CONTROL BABYLONIAN BANKSTER CONTROLLED LEADERSHIP THAT ARE NOW TURNED INTO NAZIS THAT ARE ATTACKING INNOCENT SYRIANS AND THE LEGITAMATE GOVERNMENT OF SYRIA! Read that again and understand that is how the majority of Americans feel. We are sick and farken tired of this carp! Many people here had grandparents that went to Germany to fight against this very thing. All dressed in BLACK,  they look exactly the same. Why do the Israeli people support and participate in it also? The real Jewish people were severely persecuted and killed by these nazi's. Why are they the Israeli people an active part of the new marzist-nazi agenda in america now making BLACK weapons of mass destruction for them?

WTH? IS IT REALLY THE MARXIST ZIONIST-NAZI AGANDA AT WORK HERE? One can only judge a tree by it's fruit, and good fruit is not BLACK!

Come on ya'll, can't we all just get rid of these horrible banksters and their corrupted cronie politician warmongering puppets and assorted pointed headed lawyers, and just get back to being a world of simple people that are all created equal in the view of the Creator? All God's real children would do that. Surly, another world war is not going to really solve anything, is it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX4Flhw0HSA

 

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