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Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Unarmed At Time Of Boat "Shootout"

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Three days ago we pointed out that while the story surrounding the alleged Boston Bombers had many gaping holes in it while it was being made up in process, following the filing of the official sworn FBI affidavit making things up out of thin air would become far more complicated. Sure enough, one specific section in the 11 page sworn testimony caught our attention: the one discussing the capture of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev following the boat "shootout". To wit:

We were thus surprised to find the first gaping hole in the government's official version just 3 short days later. Because as it turns out, as per the WaPo, the proability of a "shootout" between the suspect and the Boston police was severly curtailed following the revelation that he had been unarmed the entire time he was hiding in the boat.

Although police feared he was heavily armed, the suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing had no firearms when he came under a barrage of police gunfire that struck the boat where he was hiding, according to multiple federal law enforcement officials.


Authorities said they were desperate to capture Dzhokhar Tsarnaev so he could be questioned. The FBI, however, declined to discuss what prompted the gunfire.


Other law enforcement officials said the shooting may have been prompted by the chaos of the moment and some action that led the officers to believe Tsarnaev had fired a weapon or was about to detonate explosives.


“They probably didn’t know whether he had a gun,” said one law enforcement official, who like others interviewed for this article spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. “Hours earlier, he and his brother had killed a police officer, shot another officer and thrown explosives out of their cars as the police were chasing them. They couldn’t assume that he did not have a gun and more explosives.”

The FBI, having been happy to provide the testimony for probable cause, suddenly finds itself silent:

The FBI declined to discuss the exact sequence of events that led officers to open fire on Tsarnaev’s hiding place and whether the dozens of bullets that struck the boat caused any of his gunshot wounds.

One wonders then just how the story about the purported suicide attempt involving a shot into his own throat when he had no gun, will develop from here on out.

Finally, trust Joe Biden to put it all into perspective:

On Wednesday, Vice President Biden eulogized Sean Collier, the slain Massachusetts Institute of Technology police officer, and denounced Tsarnaev and his dead brother as “two twisted, perverted, cowardly knockoff jihadis.

Indeed, who needs an in depth investigation when you have a Gun Tzar, well-versed in all the facts months ahead of any official conclusion?

Oh well: when it comes to putting the heavy foot of the law down, the end always justifies the means. Now it was two suspected (still) bombers and "cowardly knockoff jihaids." Who will it be tomorrow? Don't worry - trust the government to know the difference.


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Thu, 04/25/2013 - 09:42 | 3497202 achmachat
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using finger: pew! pew!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 09:45 | 3497230 hedgeless_horseman
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  1. Bang, bang.
  2. "Drop your weapon."
Thu, 04/25/2013 - 09:47 | 3497236 The Juggernaut
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This stand-down event is so sloppy!   Democide is out of control though.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 09:50 | 3497254 Sheeple Shepard
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"They probably didn't know whether he had a gun"

Well thats probable cause, right there.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 09:54 | 3497274 Manthong
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Just think of how barbarous and vicious the government law enforcement action  would have been if the Chechen Chump had a gun.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 09:56 | 3497292 hedgeless_horseman
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Obama said he was armed, no?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 09:58 | 3497306 francis_sawyer
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You just shot an unarmed man!

William Munny: "Well, he shoulda armed himself'...

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:05 | 3497356 Pladizow
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Tyranny Bitches!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:09 | 3497391 john39
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the Brothers Tsarnaev are the lee harvey oswalds of the boston bombings.  Good piece by Dr. Kevin Barrett:


Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:12 | 3497415 YBNguy
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"Im from the government and Im here to help!"

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:15 | 3497426 Stackers
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Look out they're coming straight for us !!!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:19 | 3497458 TerminalDebt
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Quick, shoot him before he commits suicide.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:30 | 3497517 Pinto Currency
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It wasn't a shoot-out.

It was a 'shoot-in'.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:34 | 3497557 mess nonster
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" I'm a patsy!" -Lee harvey Oswald

"Grrgumpghphlggrh!" Dzhokar Tsarnaev

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:37 | 3497580 SilverIsKing
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What ever happened to, "This is the police.  Come out with your hands up?"

They don't make 'em like they used to.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 11:16 | 3497840 krispkritter
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So they've Mirandized him but he 'confessed' to the car-jacking victim and to FBI before this happened so will it stand on just the cj victims testimony because it sounds like a US citizen being questioned for 16 hours by the FBI and confessing without being Mirandized would not stand up in court.  It's the Keystone Kops...

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 12:36 | 3498307 knukles
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Back in the olde days his defense attorney coulda claimed and had substantional grounds that VPPlugs screwed the pooch for a fair trial by making all those deliberative conclusions.
Nah.  Not anymore...

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:35 | 3497567 mess nonster
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" I'm a patsy!" -Lee harvey Oswald

"Grrgumpghphlggrh!" Dzhokar Tsarnaev

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:52 | 3497674 Ying-Yang
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I knew a girl who liked to be flash banged? Go figure.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:22 | 3497471 smlbizman
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at 2.25 in...him climbing out of hole in throat...yet

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:39 | 3497596 Bastiat
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That visual evidence on that video is compelling-young Tsar leaving the scene with his backpack, Craft guy leaving the scene without his backpack. Craft guy's backpack has the same white square as the shredded bomb backpack.  Boston strong?  Then demand the truth!!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 12:18 | 3498201 Ident 7777 economy
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Geez ... you guys just DON'T give it a rest do you ...



Here a conspiracy, there a conspiracy, everywhere a conspiracy, E-I-E-I-O.





Thu, 04/25/2013 - 12:53 | 3498400 Bastiat
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Evidence, bitch.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:50 | 3498748 SamAdams
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Craft Int'l guys with both backpacks on their bodies is from a photo taken after bomb blew out window glass.  You need to see the original pic it was cropped from.  Also, Craft pack straps are not tutone.

I'm not saying its not a false flag, I'm saying those two Craft guys still had their backpacks on after the bomb went off.  GET IT???

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:58 | 3499075 Totentänzerlied
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Boston weak, pathetic, cowardly, ignorant, credulous, naive, stupid, did I say pathetic, servile, and slavish.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 12:37 | 3498305 Cap Matifou
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I guess Mr. Bean for one, got it very lucky at the airport

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:24 | 3497484 aerojet
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They can't be patsies if they actually planted the bombs, which they did.  Stop being an idiot.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:26 | 3497497 john39
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government and MSM said so....  so it must be true, i get it.  thanks for that valuable contribution.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:28 | 3497508 smlbizman
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how about this aero....hey u guys want to help us with a bomb drill....ok...than put this fake bomb in that can and walk away... ok...thats one way he could be a patsie....maybe you could critically think and come up with a 2nd way...

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:50 | 3497663 Harbanger
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"....hey u guys want to help us with a bomb drill....ok...than put this fake bomb in that can and walk away... "

That's hillarious!!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 11:27 | 3497905 smlbizman
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on the serious side of that is...if they had a relationship with the fbi, as verified by mom , maybe as informants or who knows..than hey, beavis,  butthead you want to make 50.00...

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 11:39 | 3497982 Harbanger
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Lets not be beavis and buttheads ourselves.  They're not angels, the mother was arrested for robbing a clothing store last year.  They also have a long history of working the system.  If anything they outsmarted the authorities and were double agents.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 12:02 | 3498108 Herd Redirectio...
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Outsmarted?  They were still in Boston three days after the bombing.  If it was them, then one thing they are not, is smart.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 18:58 | 3500169 Offthebeach
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And anyways, they were incompetent. Grossly incompetent, and sloppy. A 11 year old, raise on his bank robbing, car stealing, home invading Charlestown father's knee would of still be on the lam, free. So, that right there is just punishnt by being run over( aka, "Speedbump") or throatshot as "Flashbang" was.
Life is tough for Allah ball lickers. Tougher for the stupid.

Besides, cops are human too, and who wouldn't't want to shoot up a Muppet every now and then?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:10 | 3497396 Beam Me Up Scotty
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  1. Bang, bang.
  2. "Drop your weapon."

Shoot first, ask questions later!!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:20 | 3497459 fourchan
Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:21 | 3497472 General Decline
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Kill 'em all. Let Netanyahu sort 'em out.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:53 | 3497689 Ying-Yang
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Actually it goes like this....

"Trick or treat motherfucker..... BANG"

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:16 | 3497434 toys for tits
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Either a magic boat or cops who can only hit a target that resembles their gun range targets.

I guess now we know why DHS ordered 1.6B rounds.  They have a bunch of officers who can't shoot.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:24 | 3497488 Harbanger
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A very astute Democrat from NY said "No one needs ten bullets to kill a deeeeah!"

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:04 | 3497358 spastic_colon
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Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:21 | 3497468 Abiotic Oil
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Let's talk about where all the rounds went after passing through the thin fiberglass hull of the boat,  causing the bullets to pitch and yaw, and then go swarming out into Waterown like angry bees.

If they even managed to hit the boat that is.



Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:27 | 3497496 aerojet
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Oh please, that's just so much nonsense.  They fired into the boat, if any rounds left the yard, I'd be surprised.  My biggest question is why did HRT even open fire if they were never fired upon?  Perhaps they didn't want the guy to talk.  But if that's true, why did they shoot him in the throat and then allow him to be taken alive?  Why not just finish the job?  So that means they're simply incompetent, which is better than there being a conspiracy.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:50 | 3497660 Confused
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Incompetence would be far worse.


He's only alive because you are told. But if he isn't speaking, and no one sees him.......


Tin Foil is tight today. Sorry.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:52 | 3497675 Abiotic Oil
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You're kidding right?  5.56 rounds travelling at 3200FPS are going to be stopped by a fiberglass boat?  Maybe if they were shooting frangible ammo, but that would have ripped the kids head off.  I have seen that little .223 diameter round go in one side of a car and come out the other no problem several times.

Will you stand behind as many layers of fibreglass like were used in the boat and let me shoot at you?  We can see who is right?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:53 | 3498769 andyupnorth
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Fake bullets; fake bomb; actors all the way.

This is necessary for urban warfare training.  Good thing nobody really got hurt.  Bad thing that everyone is told that this was real.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 19:41 | 3500329 StychoKiller
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Hmm, argue with 3 or 4 dead bodies.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:06 | 3497360 CvlDobd
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For your viewing pleasure.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 12:35 | 3498284 SgtSchultz
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Joe Biden's inspiration for his ideas on home defense "just get a double barrel shotgun...."

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:06 | 3497373 kliguy38
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Although police feared he was heavily armed, the suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing had no firearms when he came under a barrage of police gunfire that struck the boat where he was hiding, according to multiple federal law enforcement officials.


Authorities said they were desperate to capture Dzhokhar Tsarnaev so he could be questioned. The FBI, however, declined to discuss what prompted the gunfire.


heheheh.....sure they were desperate to "question" they shoot the shit out of him inside a boat where they can't even see the target and he turns out to have no gun.......BWAAAAAAA.....And people swallow this shit

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:23 | 3497480 fourchan
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Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:35 | 3497562 TeamDepends
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The boat was spotted near the finish line piloted by Steven Spielberg.  It had to be silenced.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:45 | 3497633 Cacete de Ouro
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The Bilge Pump may have backfired!   hence the confusion ..


ps:.....I hate bilge pumps...even the name ~~

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 11:04 | 3497768 SilverIsKing
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Is it 'bilge' or 'pump' that you have an issue with?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 11:18 | 3497862 1000 splendid suns
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A boat full of holes. That's how I lost my gold, assault rifles and imported ammo.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:35 | 3498665 Tapeworm
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The dumb bastard called the cops when he could have done the arrest himself and not have his beloved boat shot to pieces.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:26 | 3497492 Carmagnole
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Maybe you're having a little bit too much faith in your Law and Order's skill at being the servants of dictatorship.

What the boat shooting may have looked like:

Dictatorship only happens afterwards when the bosses need to rewrite history to make it look like it was all under control, so that the huddled masses don't fire them for unbearable incompetence all along the hierarchy.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:59 | 3497730 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Yeah exactly I am thinking at this point people are giving everyone here too much credit when in reality they are one big overbloated dysfunctional and incompetent family. Just like pretty much all of America these days. Why would the government and law enforcement agencies being mismanaged any better than our monetary policy. They all come from the same education system and are seduced by the same false bullshit in the matrix. As Carlin used to say when you are born in America you get a front row seat to the clown show. If you are one of the few people haven't lost their minds sit back and enjoy the show.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 11:13 | 3497830 TuesdayBen
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Carlin is acutely missed nowadays

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 11:47 | 3498030 Grinder74
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It's like in movies where the hero is engaged in an intense shoot-out with the baddies, then all of a sudden he's out of ammo, stands up and surrenders, and the baddies stop shooting to capture him and take him to their leader (so the hero can pull his super-duper heroic switcheroo).

But I've always wondered, why would they stop shooting?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:44 | 3498719 Tapeworm
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For the same reason that the Indians always ride around in circles around the wagon train.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 12:26 | 3498232 Ident 7777 economy
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" Although police feared he was heavily armed, the suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing had no firearms ..."


What were the suspects throwing at the police that exploded during that car chase and firefight afterward ... oh right, right ...  'some things that went bang (and boom)' ... 



Butter, you guys aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer ..





Thu, 04/25/2013 - 12:56 | 3498410 ultimate warrior
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If he was unarmed, the use of deadly force is not justified and can not be used. The people who shot at him should be held accountable (civil suit, criminal charges, termination of employment). 

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:16 | 3497440 Budd aka Sidewinder
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"....If he's gonna' decorate his place with my friends'

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:20 | 3497463 Ignatius
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Great scene from movie "Shane"...


Jack Palance (refering to gun on the ground)

   "Pick it up"

Hayseed (sheepishly)

    "Gee, mister, I don't want no problems"

Palance (more sternly)

    "Pick it up"

Hayseed (uncertain, explaining)

    "Mister, I just come to town for some rock candy for my kids and gingham for my wife"

Palance (ordering)

    "Pick. Up. The gun."

Hayseed (alternately, nervously looking at Palance and the gun)

     "Really, mister, I don't want a problems..."

Hayseed finally seeing he has no choice goes for the gun and ...


Palance (turning to the crowd that's gathered)

     "You saw him.  He had a gun"


Thu, 04/25/2013 - 11:08 | 3497800 ServingMyKing
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William Munny: "...if he's going to decorate his place with my friend."

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:07 | 3497383 new game
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does butch cassidy and the sundance kid come to mind?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:26 | 3497500 Ignatius
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Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:08 | 3497390 Dr. Richard Head
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I just wanted to bring everyone's attention to my twitter account as I have documented every aspect of this case since the day after the bombing.  None of the "official story" bullshit connects to anything but inept government abilities and setting up a larger police state.  God help us all.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:17 | 3497448 new game
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dr spot on! ++++++++++++++++

not sure about the god stuff though

in colt i trust, all else i question...

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:26 | 3497499 Dr. Richard Head
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It was really a colloquialism and nothing more. 

I weep for those who live with their eyes wide-shut.  I am willing to bet that many would still deny their seeing eyes of the evidence of the Boston-bullsthi for the comfort of their open range slavery.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:30 | 3497520 new game
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we still have a choice til death.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 09:52 | 3497275 redpill
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So what's the difference between cowardly knock-off jihadis that blow innocent people up and cowardly real jihadis that blow innocent people up?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 09:57 | 3497300 Agent P
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Real jihadis have guns.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:28 | 3497514 john39
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and drones, nukes, aircraft carriers, ICB's, tanks....  all for 'defense' of course.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:01 | 3498814 hidingfromhelis
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Their "relationship" with certain alphabet agencies?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 09:59 | 3497312 TeamDepends
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Number of virgins?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 11:11 | 3497811 TerminalDebt
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real = funded by Isrealis

knockoffs = funded by CIA

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:04 | 3497344 insanelysane
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Exactly!!!  These guys successfully carried out a bombing.  They are jihadists; successful, actual, real, jihadists.  The defense lawyers will bring up this because it probably isn't illegal to be a knock-off jihadist.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:06 | 3497364 LetThemEatRand
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Just a small point here -- the same people who told you repeatedly that he was armed when captured also told you that he was the bomber.  Get it? 

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:10 | 3497399 new game
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the age of manipulated guilt...

wow-wouldn't want to be on that jury!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:19 | 3497456 toys for tits
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We've already seen the president, vice president and multiple senators of the USA declare his guilt.

How could it be possible that this guy will get a fair trial?  No jury would aquit even if there is a video showing that he was in California the entire day of the marathon. 

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:23 | 3497483 Ignatius
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Jury nullification.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:31 | 3497522 john39
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the chances of this poor kid getting a civilian jury trial, or any trial for that matter, have to be about zero.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 12:22 | 3497574 Harbanger
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I like to think of the poor kid as butters, from south park.


Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:30 | 3497527 Harbanger
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I wonder what OJ would do if he were in the same boat?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:57 | 3497715 Uncle Remus
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Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:12 | 3497405 Canaduh
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Just a small point here- the same people who told you there were Craft operatives at the event also told you he wasn't the bomber. Capiche?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:23 | 3497478 Terminus C
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Your logic is... flawed.

No one, not even the government, denies there were Craft operatives at the event.  So, what was your point exactly?


Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:24 | 3498514 Canaduh
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Your logic is.... non existant.


No one denies it because there is nothing to deny. One member of the WMD CST team was wearing a Craft cap (available for purchase online), which is not unusual, considering Craft offers training to LEO and military. They do not contract out security services, they are not mercenaries.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 21:11 | 3500697 Terminus C
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Your name is apt.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:29 | 3497519 aerojet
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I'm pretty sure those Craft guys would lay down their lives for our nation and would not care to hurt an 8-year old boy under any circumstances.  Get your head out of your ass!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:31 | 3497534 john39
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at worst they sold out.   at best they do what they are told, they don't think...  they don't ask questions.  the very definition of useful idiots.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:22 | 3498571 Canaduh
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'they don't think... they don't ask questions. the very definition of useful idiots.'

Like you when you heard these guys were Craft??

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 12:57 | 3498428 Bastiat
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Then what happened to that Craft guys matching backpack?  He ran away without after the explosion.  You think spec ops mercs are idealistic?? 

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:06 | 3497359 Harbanger
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Biden should go after his Doctors for giving him knock-off hair plugs.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:09 | 3497388 hangemhigh
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So what's the difference between cowardly knock-off jihadis that blow innocent people up and cowardly real jihadis that blow innocent people up?

   a joy stick controlled drone fly-over with hellfire monkey hammer?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 15:05 | 3499109 Totentänzerlied
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What about cowardly drone operators who have no skin in the game? Or cowardly airforce bomber crewmen who kill from 30,000 feet?

The difference is government backing.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 09:55 | 3497291 quintago
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I pointed this out when i saw the 60 minutes piece where the governor said he had a bullet wound through his mouth and out the back of his neck, yet he somehow managed to be talked out of the boat.

Amazing load of BS that was they tried to skip past's pretty apparent somebody shot and tried to kill him after, yet somehow he survived (so far).....

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:08 | 3497380 agNau
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He was about to flee the scene in the boat.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:37 | 3497573 Ignatius
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That's the way I read it.


Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:08 | 3497382 Bastiat
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I wonder if his lawyer is a real lawyer or another goon.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:45 | 3497622 TeamDepends
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That is disparaging towards goons.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:31 | 3497536 aerojet
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Pure speculation. 

It's hard to have restraint against someone you know is dangerous and who killed and injured fellow officers.  But if FBI HRT are the one who took him down, it is puzzling.  

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 12:10 | 3498152 RobD
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Remember FBI HRT had no problem shooting a women holding a baby at Ruby Ridge.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:00 | 3498440 Bastiat
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Yeah it's hard to be a professional and follow the laws it is your job to enforce.  It requires something more than the mind of an angry child.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:10 | 3497397 lotusblue
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Luckily incompetant bombers ! Police State GUN HAPPY law enforcement entirely different story.

Geeze suicide by NECK and FOOT shot

.Shooting Happy Kids with guns.Old NYPD family friends were proud they never had even drawn thier guns durring entire careers. The inculcation of SHOOT FIRST Psychotic Law enforcement is mind Boggling !

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:20 | 3497461 Croesus
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Up arrow, if you think the whole story stinks to high heaven!


Did you ever notice how, one of the biggest "tells" for cops conducting an interrogation, is a suspect who's constantly changing his story?

Could someone please explain to me, how THIS is any different?


Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:39 | 3497587 Ignatius
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Fantastic and obvious point.  Good connection.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 09:58 | 3497267 Terminus C
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pew pew is laser fire...

What happened here was dakka dakka.

Fuckin pigs anyway.  So much bullshit in this event.  This story is following the exact plot of 9/11.  First they claim to find the 'terrorists'.  Terrorists all die so they can't talk (this guy not dead but can't talk for some strange reason).  Then they flood the media with the incompetence story (the FBI knew, Russia told them blah blah blah bullshit).  Remember folks, incompetence is better than intent.

All the evidence (except the MSM propaganda) points to false flag.  Sheep eat up the propaganda (gov't got their men), the doubtful sheep buy into the incompetance story and the real story is called 'conspiracy theory'.

9/11 deja vu


Thu, 04/25/2013 - 09:58 | 3497316 Common_Cents22
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Misha made them do it!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:17 | 3498870 andyupnorth
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Sandy Hook Elementary deja vu!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:03 | 3497342 BLOTTO
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The FBI is asking the public to help identify Suspect 1 and Suspect 2...


Yet they had been tracking the one suspect and knew of him since 2011?

=logic fail.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:11 | 3497400 Terminus C
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Yet so many people, even here, believe that these guys did it.

*mind boggle*

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 11:36 | 3497962 RebelDevil
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I have no idea what the hell to believe now considering the staggering amount of disinformation. However, it seems more likely as this plays out that Tsarnaev's parents are actually being honest.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:35 | 3497551 forwardho
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I guess that means the FBI has no access to facial rec programs.

(or their own records)

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 09:57 | 3497308 azzhatter
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I guessed he was unarmed. Otherwise he would have shot the guy who found him. Twisted govt stories.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:01 | 3497324 Common_Cents22
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that guy was ballsy as hell looking in the boat knowing the situation.   I wonder if he'll be charged for violating the "lock down"!  haha

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:07 | 3497376 insanelysane
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Somehow the lock down had been lifted an hour or so before the capture.  One guy being interviewed had a Domino's pizza that he ordered once he saw the Domino's light come on because he had been stuck inside all day.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:15 | 3497428 new game
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100 questions, zero honest answers.

one reporter willing to ask the questions-Jon R.


Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:58 | 3497726 Confused
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Exactly! I am supposed to believe these kids were so evil as to blow up a public event. Then they car jack a guy and let him go?

Weird. But ok.

Suicide by shooting himself in the neck? Come on. If they were smart enough to do all this, he could get suicide right?


unless he was busy casing a 7-11 when he should have been looking that up on youtube.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:00 | 3498451 Bastiat
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He was so smart he could shoot himself in the nech without a gun.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:11 | 3497412 Freddie
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Hope & Change.   Biden telling jokes as he gives the dead MIT cop kid's eulogy.    They will always say "heavily armed and dangerous" even if you are unarmed when the want you killed dead.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:40 | 3497601 Canadian Dirtlump
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Gunfire from an unarmed suspect here, and his brother dead, full of holes, and purportedly ran over by his brother, after being seen nude, handcuffed and very much alive. These events take a major gap down in credibility each time they occur.



Thu, 04/25/2013 - 09:51 | 3497256 JPM Hater001
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Frankly I thought CIA snipers were better shots.

"Who the hell sent Larry to take him out," was heard in a building located in Langley VA.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:23 | 3497452 XitSam
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FBI snipers are able to shoot a woman in the face while the woman holds a baby.

Edit: grammar

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:33 | 3497550 General Decline
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Yep. Talented guys, they are. Really something to aspire to.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:01 | 3498457 Bastiat
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. . . from a considerable distance, too.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:14 | 3497377 freewolf7
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  1. Bang, bang.
  2. "Drop your weapon."


Thu, 04/25/2013 - 09:49 | 3497244 Eireann go Brach
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Joe thought he was talking about Obama and Mohamad El Erian!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 09:55 | 3497283 redpill
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Careful, Bill Gross might start sending out pouty tweets!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:15 | 3497393 Mercury
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Honestly, I thoght the kid was going to die of boredom as the "standoff" dragged on forever on TV.

Instead of re-enacting The Blues Brothers Movie they could have simply backed up a truck, hithced up the trailer and drove the damn thing, Dzhokhar and all, to the police station.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:16 | 3497433 Freddie
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they could have simply backed up a truck, hithced up the trailer and drove the damn thing to the police station

LOL!  They would have made for "great TV."  F Tv and F Hollywood.

Alternatively - they could have taken the kid out to sea or Boston Harbor on the boat and given him the traditional Muslim burial at sea that is required by strict Islamic custom.  No aircraft carrier or US Navy needed.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:54 | 3497693 aerojet
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That would have been awesome.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:20 | 3497460 Yamaha
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These guys can't hit there own ass. Just like NYPD when they shot 9 -12 by-standers. Government fuck-ups!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:26 | 3497494 Mercury
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I think it's more the case that there were a whole bunch of law enforcement personnel on the scene from a whole bunch of different law enforcement agencies and everyone wanted a chance to use the fancy gear they brought with them.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:37 | 3497572 new game
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1 in ten shoot their gun straight. lots a holster wear, barrels shiny.

i owned a few preowned colts and s and w's - great buys...

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:24 | 3497490 Groundhog Day
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Most cops were the C and D students in the back of the class.  Now they have Guns and are suppose to protect you. Good Luck. Wasn't their an incident in NYC where some guy shot his ex boss and later he was shot himself without firing a single shot yet the cops managed to hit several pedestrians?  I'm surprised they actually got this other idiot Tsarnaev alive.  

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 11:03 | 3497760 Freddie
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I remember one dude in high school who became a cop.  It was the senior year English class final.  He put his head on the desk and went to sleep.  He did not even try to take the test!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:40 | 3497593 dtwn
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I think he was armed with Laser Cats.

If you squint really hard you can just make 'em out on the FLIR vid from the heli.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:56 | 3497698 Saint Pitbull
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Make no mistake - the government wanted to set a precedent for locking down a city and basically installing martial law.  Their actions were like the Keystone Cops.  A CITIZEN found the terrorist outside of the police search zone.  He will never get his boat back, either.  Outcomes:

1.  Terrorists like what they saw and are emboldened.

2. Police will act like jack-booted thugs with increasing regularity because "it's for the public good".

3.  Amnesty will get talked about without a mention of this.

4.  More welfare for terrorists so they will quit being so mean.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 11:18 | 3497864 Bunga Bunga
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You learn that it Jamestown.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:00 | 3498446 GoldForCash
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He was supposed to be taken DEAD. The shot to the throat was supposed to be a head shot.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:09 | 3498529 Rory_Breaker
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10 fingers are too many!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 09:43 | 3497204 inevitablecollapse
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i am jack's complete lack of surprise

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 09:48 | 3497238 doomandbloom
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Thu, 04/25/2013 - 10:15 | 3497425 TeamDepends
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There was a banker had a switch and CISPA was its' name-o

C-I-S-P-A  C-I-S-P-A  C-I-S-P-A

And CISPA was its' name-o

(cowbell solo)

There was a tin-pot dictator Obama was his name-o

O-B-A-M-clap  O-B-A-M-clap  O-B-A-M-clap

Obama was his name-o

(tasty blues lick)


Thu, 04/25/2013 - 11:23 | 3497878 McMolotov
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"I gotta have more cowbell!" —The Bruce Dickinson

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 09:43 | 3497207 LawsofPhysics
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Amazed they let him live at all.  Patsies are just that, useful idiots.  No value in questioning.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 09:50 | 3497260 Deo vindice
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It's all part of the props for the stage.

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