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Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Unarmed At Time Of Boat "Shootout"
Three days ago we pointed out that while the story surrounding the alleged Boston Bombers had many gaping holes in it while it was being made up in process, following the filing of the official sworn FBI affidavit making things up out of thin air would become far more complicated. Sure enough, one specific section in the 11 page sworn testimony caught our attention: the one discussing the capture of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev following the boat "shootout". To wit:
We were thus surprised to find the first gaping hole in the government's official version just 3 short days later. Because as it turns out, as per the WaPo, the proability of a "shootout" between the suspect and the Boston police was severly curtailed following the revelation that he had been unarmed the entire time he was hiding in the boat.
Although police feared he was heavily armed, the suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing had no firearms when he came under a barrage of police gunfire that struck the boat where he was hiding, according to multiple federal law enforcement officials.
Authorities said they were desperate to capture Dzhokhar Tsarnaev so he could be questioned. The FBI, however, declined to discuss what prompted the gunfire.
Other law enforcement officials said the shooting may have been prompted by the chaos of the moment and some action that led the officers to believe Tsarnaev had fired a weapon or was about to detonate explosives.
“They probably didn’t know whether he had a gun,” said one law enforcement official, who like others interviewed for this article spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. “Hours earlier, he and his brother had killed a police officer, shot another officer and thrown explosives out of their cars as the police were chasing them. They couldn’t assume that he did not have a gun and more explosives.”
The FBI, having been happy to provide the testimony for probable cause, suddenly finds itself silent:
The FBI declined to discuss the exact sequence of events that led officers to open fire on Tsarnaev’s hiding place and whether the dozens of bullets that struck the boat caused any of his gunshot wounds.
One wonders then just how the story about the purported suicide attempt involving a shot into his own throat when he had no gun, will develop from here on out.
Finally, trust Joe Biden to put it all into perspective:
On Wednesday, Vice President Biden eulogized Sean Collier, the slain Massachusetts Institute of Technology police officer, and denounced Tsarnaev and his dead brother as “two twisted, perverted, cowardly knockoff jihadis.”
Indeed, who needs an in depth investigation when you have a Gun Tzar, well-versed in all the facts months ahead of any official conclusion?
Oh well: when it comes to putting the heavy foot of the law down, the end always justifies the means. Now it was two suspected (still) bombers and "cowardly knockoff jihaids." Who will it be tomorrow? Don't worry - trust the government to know the difference.
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using finger: pew! pew!
This stand-down event is so sloppy! Democide is out of control though.
"They probably didn't know whether he had a gun"
Well thats probable cause, right there.
Just think of how barbarous and vicious the government law enforcement action would have been if the Chechen Chump had a gun.
Obama said he was armed, no?
You just shot an unarmed man!
William Munny: "Well, he shoulda armed himself'...
Tyranny Bitches!
the Brothers Tsarnaev are the lee harvey oswalds of the boston bombings. Good piece by Dr. Kevin Barrett:
>>http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=249281
"Im from the government and Im here to help!"
Look out they're coming straight for us !!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2436_3BRlA
Quick, shoot him before he commits suicide.
It wasn't a shoot-out.
It was a 'shoot-in'.
" I'm a patsy!" -Lee harvey Oswald
"Grrgumpghphlggrh!" Dzhokar Tsarnaev
What ever happened to, "This is the police. Come out with your hands up?"
They don't make 'em like they used to.
So they've Mirandized him but he 'confessed' to the car-jacking victim and to FBI before this happened so will it stand on just the cj victims testimony because it sounds like a US citizen being questioned for 16 hours by the FBI and confessing without being Mirandized would not stand up in court. It's the Keystone Kops... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2314508/Dzhokhar-Tsarnaev-confessed-FBI-hospital-bedside-went-silent-read-rights.html
Back in the olde days his defense attorney coulda claimed and had substantional grounds that VPPlugs screwed the pooch for a fair trial by making all those deliberative conclusions.
Nah. Not anymore...
" I'm a patsy!" -Lee harvey Oswald
"Grrgumpghphlggrh!" Dzhokar Tsarnaev
I knew a girl who liked to be flash banged? Go figure.
at 2.25 in...him climbing out of boat...no hole in throat...yet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bjocGidSLJw
That visual evidence on that video is compelling-young Tsar leaving the scene with his backpack, Craft guy leaving the scene without his backpack. Craft guy's backpack has the same white square as the shredded bomb backpack. Boston strong? Then demand the truth!!
Geez ... you guys just DON'T give it a rest do you ...
Here a conspiracy, there a conspiracy, everywhere a conspiracy, E-I-E-I-O.
Evidence, bitch.
Craft Int'l guys with both backpacks on their bodies is from a photo taken after bomb blew out window glass. You need to see the original pic it was cropped from. Also, Craft pack straps are not tutone.
I'm not saying its not a false flag, I'm saying those two Craft guys still had their backpacks on after the bomb went off. GET IT???
Boston weak, pathetic, cowardly, ignorant, credulous, naive, stupid, did I say pathetic, servile, and slavish.
I guess Mr. Bean for one, got it very lucky at the airport
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK1z_-BG9FY
They can't be patsies if they actually planted the bombs, which they did. Stop being an idiot.
government and MSM said so.... so it must be true, i get it. thanks for that valuable contribution.
how about this aero....hey u guys want to help us with a bomb drill....ok...than put this fake bomb in that can and walk away... ok...thats one way he could be a patsie....maybe you could critically think and come up with a 2nd way...
"....hey u guys want to help us with a bomb drill....ok...than put this fake bomb in that can and walk away... "
That's hillarious!!
on the serious side of that is...if they had a relationship with the fbi, as verified by mom , maybe as informants or who knows..than hey, beavis, butthead you want to make 50.00...
Lets not be beavis and buttheads ourselves. They're not angels, the mother was arrested for robbing a clothing store last year. They also have a long history of working the system. If anything they outsmarted the authorities and were double agents.
Outsmarted? They were still in Boston three days after the bombing. If it was them, then one thing they are not, is smart.
And anyways, they were incompetent. Grossly incompetent, and sloppy. A 11 year old, raise on his bank robbing, car stealing, home invading Charlestown father's knee would of still be on the lam, free. So, that right there is just punishnt by being run over( aka, "Speedbump") or throatshot as "Flashbang" was.
Life is tough for Allah ball lickers. Tougher for the stupid.
Besides, cops are human too, and who wouldn't't want to shoot up a Muppet every now and then?
Shoot first, ask questions later!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HhKRLpRA1k
STOP...OR ILL SHOOT
Kill 'em all. Let Netanyahu sort 'em out.
Actually it goes like this....
"Trick or treat motherfucker..... BANG"
Either a magic boat or cops who can only hit a target that resembles their gun range targets.
I guess now we know why DHS ordered 1.6B rounds. They have a bunch of officers who can't shoot.
A very astute Democrat from NY said "No one needs ten bullets to kill a deeeeah!"
ready....fire....aim!
Let's talk about where all the rounds went after passing through the thin fiberglass hull of the boat, causing the bullets to pitch and yaw, and then go swarming out into Waterown like angry bees.
If they even managed to hit the boat that is.
Oh please, that's just so much nonsense. They fired into the boat, if any rounds left the yard, I'd be surprised. My biggest question is why did HRT even open fire if they were never fired upon? Perhaps they didn't want the guy to talk. But if that's true, why did they shoot him in the throat and then allow him to be taken alive? Why not just finish the job? So that means they're simply incompetent, which is better than there being a conspiracy.
Incompetence would be far worse.
He's only alive because you are told. But if he isn't speaking, and no one sees him.......
Tin Foil is tight today. Sorry.
You're kidding right? 5.56 rounds travelling at 3200FPS are going to be stopped by a fiberglass boat? Maybe if they were shooting frangible ammo, but that would have ripped the kids head off. I have seen that little .223 diameter round go in one side of a car and come out the other no problem several times.
Will you stand behind as many layers of fibreglass like were used in the boat and let me shoot at you? We can see who is right?
Fake bullets; fake bomb; actors all the way.
This is necessary for urban warfare training. Good thing nobody really got hurt. Bad thing that everyone is told that this was real.
Hmm, argue with 3 or 4 dead bodies.
For your viewing pleasure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vw7d6LSWmk
Joe Biden's inspiration for his ideas on home defense "just get a double barrel shotgun...."
Although police feared he was heavily armed, the suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing had no firearms when he came under a barrage of police gunfire that struck the boat where he was hiding, according to multiple federal law enforcement officials.
Authorities said they were desperate to capture Dzhokhar Tsarnaev so he could be questioned. The FBI, however, declined to discuss what prompted the gunfire.
heheheh.....sure they were desperate to "question" him.....so they shoot the shit out of him inside a boat where they can't even see the target and he turns out to have no gun.......BWAAAAAAA.....And people swallow this shit
THAT GUY GOT HIS BOAT ALL SHOT UP. LOL
The boat was spotted near the finish line piloted by Steven Spielberg. It had to be silenced.
The Bilge Pump may have backfired! hence the confusion ..
ps:.....I hate bilge pumps...even the name ~~
Is it 'bilge' or 'pump' that you have an issue with?
A boat full of holes. That's how I lost my gold, assault rifles and imported ammo.
The dumb bastard called the cops when he could have done the arrest himself and not have his beloved boat shot to pieces.
Maybe you're having a little bit too much faith in your Law and Order's skill at being the servants of dictatorship.
What the boat shooting may have looked like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=542zyQ6-gd4
Dictatorship only happens afterwards when the bosses need to rewrite history to make it look like it was all under control, so that the huddled masses don't fire them for unbearable incompetence all along the hierarchy.
Yeah exactly I am thinking at this point people are giving everyone here too much credit when in reality they are one big overbloated dysfunctional and incompetent family. Just like pretty much all of America these days. Why would the government and law enforcement agencies being mismanaged any better than our monetary policy. They all come from the same education system and are seduced by the same false bullshit in the matrix. As Carlin used to say when you are born in America you get a front row seat to the clown show. If you are one of the few people haven't lost their minds sit back and enjoy the show.
Carlin is acutely missed nowadays
It's like in movies where the hero is engaged in an intense shoot-out with the baddies, then all of a sudden he's out of ammo, stands up and surrenders, and the baddies stop shooting to capture him and take him to their leader (so the hero can pull his super-duper heroic switcheroo).
But I've always wondered, why would they stop shooting?
For the same reason that the Indians always ride around in circles around the wagon train.
kliguy38:
" Although police feared he was heavily armed, the suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing had no firearms ..."
What were the suspects throwing at the police that exploded during that car chase and firefight afterward ... oh right, right ... 'some things that went bang (and boom)' ...
Butter, you guys aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer ..If he was unarmed, the use of deadly force is not justified and can not be used. The people who shot at him should be held accountable (civil suit, criminal charges, termination of employment).
"....If he's gonna' decorate his place with my friends'
Great scene from movie "Shane"...
Jack Palance (refering to gun on the ground)
"Pick it up"
Hayseed (sheepishly)
"Gee, mister, I don't want no problems"
Palance (more sternly)
"Pick it up"
Hayseed (uncertain, explaining)
"Mister, I just come to town for some rock candy for my kids and gingham for my wife"
Palance (ordering)
"Pick. Up. The gun."
Hayseed (alternately, nervously looking at Palance and the gun)
"Really, mister, I don't want a problems..."
Hayseed finally seeing he has no choice goes for the gun and ...
BLAM! BLAM! BLAM!
Palance (turning to the crowd that's gathered)
"You saw him. He had a gun"
William Munny: "...if he's going to decorate his place with my friend."
does butch cassidy and the sundance kid come to mind?
"Jump!"
"Jump?"
I just wanted to bring everyone's attention to my twitter account www.twitter.com/familyrotten as I have documented every aspect of this case since the day after the bombing. None of the "official story" bullshit connects to anything but inept government abilities and setting up a larger police state. God help us all.
dr spot on! ++++++++++++++++
not sure about the god stuff though
in colt i trust, all else i question...
It was really a colloquialism and nothing more.
I weep for those who live with their eyes wide-shut. I am willing to bet that many would still deny their seeing eyes of the evidence of the Boston-bullsthi for the comfort of their open range slavery.
understood.
we still have a choice til death.
So what's the difference between cowardly knock-off jihadis that blow innocent people up and cowardly real jihadis that blow innocent people up?
Real jihadis have guns.
and drones, nukes, aircraft carriers, ICB's, tanks.... all for 'defense' of course.
Their "relationship" with certain alphabet agencies?
Number of virgins?
real = funded by Isrealis
knockoffs = funded by CIA
Exactly!!! These guys successfully carried out a bombing. They are jihadists; successful, actual, real, jihadists. The defense lawyers will bring up this because it probably isn't illegal to be a knock-off jihadist.
Just a small point here -- the same people who told you repeatedly that he was armed when captured also told you that he was the bomber. Get it?
the age of manipulated guilt...
wow-wouldn't want to be on that jury!
We've already seen the president, vice president and multiple senators of the USA declare his guilt.
How could it be possible that this guy will get a fair trial? No jury would aquit even if there is a video showing that he was in California the entire day of the marathon.
Jury nullification.
the chances of this poor kid getting a civilian jury trial, or any trial for that matter, have to be about zero.
I like to think of the poor kid as butters, from south park.
/s
I wonder what OJ would do if he were in the same boat?
[rimshot]
Just a small point here- the same people who told you there were Craft operatives at the event also told you he wasn't the bomber. Capiche?
Your logic is... flawed.
No one, not even the government, denies there were Craft operatives at the event. So, what was your point exactly?
Your logic is.... non existant.
No one denies it because there is nothing to deny. One member of the WMD CST team was wearing a Craft cap (available for purchase online), which is not unusual, considering Craft offers training to LEO and military. They do not contract out security services, they are not mercenaries.
Your name is apt.
I'm pretty sure those Craft guys would lay down their lives for our nation and would not care to hurt an 8-year old boy under any circumstances. Get your head out of your ass!
at worst they sold out. at best they do what they are told, they don't think... they don't ask questions. the very definition of useful idiots.
'they don't think... they don't ask questions. the very definition of useful idiots.'
Like you when you heard these guys were Craft??
Then what happened to that Craft guys matching backpack? He ran away without after the explosion. You think spec ops mercs are idealistic??
Biden should go after his Doctors for giving him knock-off hair plugs.
@RP
So what's the difference between cowardly knock-off jihadis that blow innocent people up and cowardly real jihadis that blow innocent people up?
a joy stick controlled drone fly-over with hellfire monkey hammer?
What about cowardly drone operators who have no skin in the game? Or cowardly airforce bomber crewmen who kill from 30,000 feet?
The difference is government backing.
I pointed this out when i saw the 60 minutes piece where the governor said he had a bullet wound through his mouth and out the back of his neck, yet he somehow managed to be talked out of the boat.
Amazing load of BS that was they tried to skip past us.....it's pretty apparent somebody shot and tried to kill him after, yet somehow he survived (so far).....
Obviously,
He was about to flee the scene in the boat.
That's the way I read it.
I wonder if his lawyer is a real lawyer or another goon.
That is disparaging towards goons.
Pure speculation.
It's hard to have restraint against someone you know is dangerous and who killed and injured fellow officers. But if FBI HRT are the one who took him down, it is puzzling.
Remember FBI HRT had no problem shooting a women holding a baby at Ruby Ridge.
Yeah it's hard to be a professional and follow the laws it is your job to enforce. It requires something more than the mind of an angry child.
Luckily incompetant bombers ! Police State GUN HAPPY law enforcement entirely different story.
Geeze suicide by NECK and FOOT shot
.Shooting Happy Kids with guns.Old NYPD family friends were proud they never had even drawn thier guns durring entire careers. The inculcation of SHOOT FIRST Psychotic Law enforcement is mind Boggling !
Up arrow, if you think the whole story stinks to high heaven!
Did you ever notice how, one of the biggest "tells" for cops conducting an interrogation, is a suspect who's constantly changing his story?
Could someone please explain to me, how THIS is any different?
Fantastic and obvious point. Good connection.
pew pew is laser fire...
What happened here was dakka dakka.
Fuckin pigs anyway. So much bullshit in this event. This story is following the exact plot of 9/11. First they claim to find the 'terrorists'. Terrorists all die so they can't talk (this guy not dead but can't talk for some strange reason). Then they flood the media with the incompetence story (the FBI knew, Russia told them blah blah blah bullshit). Remember folks, incompetence is better than intent.
All the evidence (except the MSM propaganda) points to false flag. Sheep eat up the propaganda (gov't got their men), the doubtful sheep buy into the incompetance story and the real story is called 'conspiracy theory'.
9/11 deja vu
Misha made them do it!
Sandy Hook Elementary deja vu!
The FBI is asking the public to help identify Suspect 1 and Suspect 2...
.
Yet they had been tracking the one suspect and knew of him since 2011?
=logic fail.
Yet so many people, even here, believe that these guys did it.
*mind boggle*
I have no idea what the hell to believe now considering the staggering amount of disinformation. However, it seems more likely as this plays out that Tsarnaev's parents are actually being honest.
I guess that means the FBI has no access to facial rec programs.
(or their own records)
I guessed he was unarmed. Otherwise he would have shot the guy who found him. Twisted govt stories.
that guy was ballsy as hell looking in the boat knowing the situation. I wonder if he'll be charged for violating the "lock down"! haha
Somehow the lock down had been lifted an hour or so before the capture. One guy being interviewed had a Domino's pizza that he ordered once he saw the Domino's light come on because he had been stuck inside all day.
100 questions, zero honest answers.
one reporter willing to ask the questions-Jon R.
Exactly! I am supposed to believe these kids were so evil as to blow up a public event. Then they car jack a guy and let him go?
Weird. But ok.
Suicide by shooting himself in the neck? Come on. If they were smart enough to do all this, he could get suicide right?
unless he was busy casing a 7-11 when he should have been looking that up on youtube.
He was so smart he could shoot himself in the nech without a gun.
Hope & Change. Biden telling jokes as he gives the dead MIT cop kid's eulogy. They will always say "heavily armed and dangerous" even if you are unarmed when the want you killed dead.
Gunfire from an unarmed suspect here, and his brother dead, full of holes, and purportedly ran over by his brother, after being seen nude, handcuffed and very much alive. These events take a major gap down in credibility each time they occur.
Frankly I thought CIA snipers were better shots.
"Who the hell sent Larry to take him out," was heard in a building located in Langley VA.
FBI snipers are able to shoot a woman in the face while the woman holds a baby.
Edit: grammar
Yep. Talented guys, they are. Really something to aspire to.
. . . from a considerable distance, too.
Brutal.
Joe thought he was talking about Obama and Mohamad El Erian!
Careful, Bill Gross might start sending out pouty tweets!
Honestly, I thoght the kid was going to die of boredom as the "standoff" dragged on forever on TV.
Instead of re-enacting The Blues Brothers Movie they could have simply backed up a truck, hithced up the trailer and drove the damn thing, Dzhokhar and all, to the police station.
they could have simply backed up a truck, hithced up the trailer and drove the damn thing to the police station
LOL! They would have made for "great TV." F Tv and F Hollywood.
Alternatively - they could have taken the kid out to sea or Boston Harbor on the boat and given him the traditional Muslim burial at sea that is required by strict Islamic custom. No aircraft carrier or US Navy needed.
That would have been awesome.
These guys can't hit there own ass. Just like NYPD when they shot 9 -12 by-standers. Government fuck-ups!
I think it's more the case that there were a whole bunch of law enforcement personnel on the scene from a whole bunch of different law enforcement agencies and everyone wanted a chance to use the fancy gear they brought with them.
1 in ten shoot their gun straight. lots a holster wear, barrels shiny.
i owned a few preowned colts and s and w's - great buys...
Most cops were the C and D students in the back of the class. Now they have Guns and are suppose to protect you. Good Luck. Wasn't their an incident in NYC where some guy shot his ex boss and later he was shot himself without firing a single shot yet the cops managed to hit several pedestrians? I'm surprised they actually got this other idiot Tsarnaev alive.
I remember one dude in high school who became a cop. It was the senior year English class final. He put his head on the desk and went to sleep. He did not even try to take the test!
I think he was armed with Laser Cats. http://www.hulu.com/playlist/31566
If you squint really hard you can just make 'em out on the FLIR vid from the heli.
Make no mistake - the government wanted to set a precedent for locking down a city and basically installing martial law. Their actions were like the Keystone Cops. A CITIZEN found the terrorist outside of the police search zone. He will never get his boat back, either. Outcomes:
1. Terrorists like what they saw and are emboldened.
2. Police will act like jack-booted thugs with increasing regularity because "it's for the public good".
3. Amnesty will get talked about without a mention of this.
4. More welfare for terrorists so they will quit being so mean.
You learn that it Jamestown.
He was supposed to be taken DEAD. The shot to the throat was supposed to be a head shot.
10 fingers are too many!
i am jack's complete lack of surprise
CISPA!
There was a banker had a switch and CISPA was its' name-o
C-I-S-P-A C-I-S-P-A C-I-S-P-A
And CISPA was its' name-o
(cowbell solo)
There was a tin-pot dictator Obama was his name-o
O-B-A-M-clap O-B-A-M-clap O-B-A-M-clap
Obama was his name-o
(tasty blues lick)
"I gotta have more cowbell!" —The Bruce Dickinson
Amazed they let him live at all. Patsies are just that, useful idiots. No value in questioning.
It's all part of the props for the stage.