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US Flip Flops, Now "Believes" Syria Used Chemical Weapons

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The tension to "liberate" Syria is palpable. It took just 24 hours for the US to do an about face on its position on Syria, where yesterday, as Bloomberg reported, "U.S. officials said they haven’t seen conclusive evidence supporting an assertion by Israel’s top military intelligence analyst that Syrian government forces have used chemical weapons against rebels. Secretary of State John Kerry and spokesmen from the White House and the Pentagon said investigations haven’t produced hard proof that Bashar al-Assad’s regime has used toxic chemicals -- a step that President Barack Obama has said would cross a “red line." Fast forward to today, and we get pretty much the opposite opposite: "The United States believes with varying degrees of confidence that Syria's regime has used chemical weapons on a small scale, the White House said on Thursday."

However, unwilling to step into another completely fabricated "false flag" conflict, with memories of Bush's non-existent WMDs still fresh, it added "that President Barack Obama needed "credible and corroborated" facts before acting on that assessment."

 So let's get this straight: no credible or corroborated facts, but the administration "believes" Syria has used Chemical weapons? "Sad" is perhaps the only word available to describe this kind of pre-war mongering propaganda by an administration that vowed to be the "most transparent", and is led by a Nobel peace prize winner.

The disclosure, made by the White House in a letter to Congress and by U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel to reporters, moves the United States closer to declaring that Syria has crossed Obama's "red line" on some kind of deeper involvement in the country's civil war."

So what happens when the Nobel peace prize winner decided to send an armada of remote controlled killer planes to liberate an army supported by Al Qaeda, with just a few thousand women and children as collateral damage? Reuters explains:

The White House has not specified what action Obama might take if he determines with certainty that Syria has crossed that red line with any chemical weapons use. But in its letter to lawmakers, it warned it was ready to respond.

 

"The administration is prepared for all contingencies so that we can respond appropriately to any confirmed use of chemical weapons, consistent with our national interest," Miguel Rodriguez, White House director of the office of legislative affairs, said in a letter to lawmakers.

 

The White House said the assessment that Syria's regime had used chemical weapons - specifically the chemical agent sarin - was based in part on physiological samples.

 

"The intelligence community has been assessing information for some time on this issue and the decision to reach this conclusion was made in the past 24 hours," Hagel told reporters in Abu Dhabi.

 

The White House stressed that, given the stakes involved, intelligence assessments alone were not sufficient. It said "facts that provide us with some degree of certainty will guide our decision making."

In other words, the only question is just when will Obama trample all over the War Powers Act once again in order to push the country into another exempt, "temporary" conflict, which will end up being quite permanent once Russia makes it all too clear that it still views Syria, where it has a key middle east naval base, as its own strategic interest.

Judging by the response in crude, it won't be too long.

Finally, a quick look at the fringe benefits of the Syrian "liberation" shows that the country has some two Cypruses worth of gold... all of which will likely soon be confiscated.

Source: WGC

 


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Thu, 04/25/2013 - 12:56 | Link to Comment imaginalis
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I'm really surprised

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 12:59 | Link to Comment Ahmeexnal
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So Syria is behind the bath salt zombies?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:02 | Link to Comment camaro68ss
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Kinetic war, bombs of peace dropping in 3…2…1…

The big O going for Nobel peace prize number two I see.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:04 | Link to Comment The Juggernaut
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Will China Russia step up?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:05 | Link to Comment camaro68ss
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this is my line in the sand, you cant pass it.....ummm, ok, you passed it? well this is my back up line, you cant pass it or else.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:06 | Link to Comment redpill
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Does this make you mo' happy, or mo'ssad?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:10 | Link to Comment camaro68ss
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mo bombs, mo silver evaporating per each bomb. Bombing is bullish on silver?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:15 | Link to Comment malikai
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CONFIRMED: The United States has used chemical and nuclear weapons against other countries.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:20 | Link to Comment Urban Redneck
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I thought the UN/NGO circus was of the belief that the (US backed) Al-CIAda regime in Syria has used Chemical Weapons against the (Russia backed) Assad regime.

Which raises the question of who sold/gifted them outlawed armaments or the precursor chemicals required to make their own?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:24 | Link to Comment lotusblue
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Brilliant ! Chem weapons used - Red line Crossed - VIX goes down likea cheap whore - Market goes up ! Brilliant ! ! !

CBOE goes offline cames back online when CHEM WEAPONS use verified !

GOD DAMMED BRILLIANT  !

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:30 | Link to Comment youngman
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I bet the algos didn´t have Chemical Weapons programmed into their code yet

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:34 | Link to Comment TrumpXVI
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I bet they do, and......it's BULLISH!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 19:39 | Link to Comment ersatzteil
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VIX inversely proportional to amount of VX in Syrian air? Some intrepid young rebels are out there linking nerve agent sensors to an algo...

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:33 | Link to Comment Agent P
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a line can be crossed from either side

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:16 | Link to Comment Joe Davola
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Let's ask Paul Kevin Curtis about the US of A's capabilities in chemical weapon detection.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:13 | Link to Comment 1100-TACTICAL-12
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Glass Parkinlot'em...... YEEEAAAAA......MERICA.......

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:24 | Link to Comment Cacete de Ouro
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25 tonnes....juicy enough.... And thats only the official figure reported to the IMF.

Lebanon has some real chunky gold reserves. The BIS Gov'ners would be licking their chops over Leb-a-non....not to be confused with the gold diggers in Leblon....

But the grand prize is still Saudi where the US of Army could commandeer at least 5000 to 8000 tonnes of nice extended royale with cheese family shiny stuff

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:49 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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So, the IMF and BIS get to 'hold' the war booty, er I mean national treasure.

Might be a coincidence, but the letter "I" keeps appearing in these acronyms. Big version of "i" ware?

Ans since possession is 9/10 of the law, I guess whoever safeguards it, owns it. Or gets to hypothecate it.

What an I-racket.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 15:11 | Link to Comment Debt-Penitent
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Plus 1 for the Pulp Fiction reference.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:50 | Link to Comment SmittyinLA
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they are, we're their baliff

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:05 | Link to Comment redpill
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Hope you Syrians like freedom, because you're going to get a whole fucking bunch of it dropped on your heads from the "knockoff jihadi" in the White House!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:06 | Link to Comment ACP
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From the makers of Iraq II, the sequel you've all been waiting for...

Metro-Goldwyn-20th-Century-Dreamworks-Universal-Haliburton-US-Government-General-Electric presents...

SYRIA I

 

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:07 | Link to Comment camaro68ss
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its for the syrian, children! think of the children. They need freedom for the children and we can brink it to them.

USA USA USA USA!!!!!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:15 | Link to Comment economessed
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Somebody hurry up and knock out some of those magnetic ribbons to put on our car so we can show that we're "patriotic."

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 16:16 | Link to Comment Dixie Rect
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Don't come back without the stones....Zorg

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:30 | Link to Comment Cacete de Ouro
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We can Brinks it from them alright...Brinks Armored...or is it Armoured....I don't know any-moar...the disguise is slippin'

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:49 | Link to Comment SmittyinLA
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spoken like a true Bostonian

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:15 | Link to Comment semperfi
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and hope you Syrians don't like your gold - because its about to be all confiscated

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:33 | Link to Comment Winston Churchill
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The oil, and gold are a bonus,

This is about South Lebanon's water.Israel cannot annexe it without Syria, and Iran

being neutralized first.

Games within games.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:17 | Link to Comment blabam
Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:05 | Link to Comment SamAdams
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Hagel used to be a man, but now he is Israel's bitch.  Guess that means he is going to have to support the LGBT liberal agenda?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:08 | Link to Comment redpill
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Sir, are you suggesting we drop gay people on Syria?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:12 | Link to Comment Meat Hammer
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I lol'd at the site of well-dressed flamboyant men being dropped into the war zone to scratch some eyes out.  

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:14 | Link to Comment redpill
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Theres NO WAY the Syrian army can stand up to being called fat and having someone point out that their shoes don't match their belt.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:25 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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zero dark blackhawkdowneragain...or something.....

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:56 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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And they're gonna play Bobby Brown and other Zappa tunes from their helicopter gunships as they come in for an aural and rear guard attack.

I knew they'd be surprised!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:15 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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Or, criticize their draperies.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:25 | Link to Comment ACP
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"If you going to desert, I can't see you. For me I want to do something different, if you go to desert, make a statement! If you're going to fight, clash!"

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:39 | Link to Comment Meat Hammer
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+1 Nice job, Mr. Leo!

And now for weather with Roosevelt E. Roosevelt - You got a window...open it!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:13 | Link to Comment SamAdams
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liberate Syria using liberals dropped from 30k feet...  you know, this could work... this could really work!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:21 | Link to Comment 1100-TACTICAL-12
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Bible Prophecy Damascus is destroyed  (Isaiah 17: 1 )

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 15:31 | Link to Comment TPTB_r_TBTF
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and reading down to 17:3

 

The fortified towns of Israel will also be destroyed,...

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:53 | Link to Comment SmittyinLA
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that would be a war crime, biological weapons are prohibited 

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:33 | Link to Comment DonGenaro
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Related:

Israel will never become the 51st state, because then they would only have 2 U.S. Senators

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 17:12 | Link to Comment SamAdams
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A++++

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:16 | Link to Comment Isotope
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That's kinetic Action, not war. Action, action, action. The old term was police action. There is no such thing as war for the US. Please update your newspeak.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:00 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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If one side starts with that shit, the other side will go ballistic.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:09 | Link to Comment Groundhog Day
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It's now Kerry's job to link the Tsarneav brothers to syria and chemical weapons somehow  so the US can go in and protect the syrians and liberate them from tyranny.  God bless america and only america 

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:04 | Link to Comment smlbizman
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they thought our guy, i mean their guy did it on tuesday...but he was busy and our guy , i mean their guy didnt get to till wensday...or it was the 2 utes.....

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:06 | Link to Comment zapdude
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...and after Syria, we need to find out where the WMD's came from. 

Why IRAN of course.

The globalist wetdream and utopia -- nothing will stand in their way.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:08 | Link to Comment redpill
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WMD's?  You mean like pressure cookers?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:14 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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It takes a tough man to cook a tender camel...

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:25 | Link to Comment azzhatter
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Why does the IMF have so much of that barbaric relic

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:06 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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They are the 'temporary' custodians of the Conflict Relic from Kinetic Conflict areas, until its legitimate ownership can be determined.

This seems to be a growth situation (opportunity), it would appear.

IMF! BIS! There be Barbaric Relic in them mountain and desert vaults.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:07 | Link to Comment Keyser-Soze
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With an occupation in Syria it gives them a straight shot from the Mediteranian; Syria, Iraq, and then next up Iran. Throw in the Afghans and Pakistans and holy shit: Yahtzee!!!!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:13 | Link to Comment redpill
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Mazel tov!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:08 | Link to Comment Kaiser Sousa
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The Zionist Entity and its Lobbyist calling shots as always...

FUCK YOU O'BITCH ASS....

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:22 | Link to Comment cspg
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here goes oil- just in time for summer driving season yall

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:01 | Link to Comment Mercury
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The United States believes with varying degrees of confidence that Syria's regime has used chemical weapons...

Do they need help with the directions?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:19 | Link to Comment wee-weed up
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Yep...  what mealy-mouthed weasel words!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 16:20 | Link to Comment Dixie Rect
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According to the fucksticks in DC, carbon dioxide is a pollutant, and H2O is a chemical, so, yep, they used wateer cannons, ergo chemical weapons.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 12:56 | Link to Comment CharliePrince
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the cheney reversal

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:09 | Link to Comment dick cheneys ghost
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''The Guns of August'' and "The Proud Tower'' come to mind.

Is anyone else noticing a little hot war with Mother Russia going on here?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 12:58 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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"Shocker" - The MIC will have their profits and your blood one way or another.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 12:58 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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This is really sickening. I hope Russia and China step up and say enough! I'm tired of these bastards killing off people all in the name of "peace". I've fucking had it !

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:13 | Link to Comment ChanceIs
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See what Dr. Paul Craig Roberts has to say about US foreign military ventures.  I must say that I am becoming quite Libertarian - or just toally skeptical of the gvernment.  Back in the '60s/Viet Nam, I thought it fine that we were defending "democracy" in the south.  Never mind the fact that we were fighting a war we had little chance of winning.  I considered those who said 'It is ther country, leave it alone,' to be weak minded.  I loathe socialism/communism.  I still do.  What a shame that we are fostering it internally.  Was it Thomas Jefferson who said something like, 'Beware foreign entanglemets?'  That resonates with me.  We can't afford any more wars - and for what gain?  Roberts goes whole hog and points out how much worse off Iraq, Libya, Egypt, etc are after we changed their regimes.  Brutality of the dictators included, they were better off.  Nobody likes a dictator, but we have some ugly realities to confront in this life.  Roberts is on the gold/anti-Fed train big time.

If you want to go to heaven, you had better get busy overthrowing Syria — Paul Craig Roberts

The United States government has been at war for eleven years. The US military destroyed Iraq, leaving the country and millions of lives in ruins and releasing sectarian blood-letting that had been kept in check by the secular Saddam Hussein government. On any given day in “liberated” Iraq, the death toll is as high as during the height of the US attempted occupation.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2013/04/21/if-you-want-to-go-to-heaven-y...

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:21 | Link to Comment dick cheneys ghost
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and that cocksucker, chickhawk, chickenshit NEO-CON Bill Kristol says Iraq is doing just fine.......these assholes are ginning up WW3 and its all about THE DOLLAR

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:26 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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PUD!!!!!

Look what we do for the dollar!!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:35 | Link to Comment Z_End
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We have be at war in/with Iraq since 1991... Desert Storm may have ended, but the war continued. 

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 12:57 | Link to Comment Agent P
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It's really more of a pink line.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 12:57 | Link to Comment HelluvaEngineer
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...and pressure cookers too!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:09 | Link to Comment smlbizman
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http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/williams-sonoma-pulls-p...

 

this has to be were we turn around right? when we are pulling pots and pans..isnt time to turn around

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 12:59 | Link to Comment 1835jackson
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Middle East is now at boiling point (again). 

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:03 | Link to Comment Everybodys All ...
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it's a real press your cooker...

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:00 | Link to Comment knukles
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They got oil?  Gold?
Who gives a shit.

Invade!
Bring freedom and democracy by force to the indigenous peoples of the arable lands.

Please note, folks that it was the French and Brits started this "used chemical weapons on their own people" about a week ago... as in a repeat of Libya ... where the Brits and Frogs started the...
Just after the US'd said that would be the "line in the sand"
Hey, maybe that's it, they got "lines in the sand" and there's a "line in the sand gap"....

By Christ's wounds this is fucked up.......

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:00 | Link to Comment Ahmeexnal
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Exactly, the US army is a puppet of the euro oligarch royal families.
Time to break free.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:16 | Link to Comment Pseudo Anonym
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i can suggest who gives a shit

They got oil?  Gold? Who gives a shit.

the hofjuden.  syria, at last count, has around 25t of gold.  there appears to be urgent need for phyzz gold. invade!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:41 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Actually, Syria has something far more precious than AU to its southern neighbor.  They got H2O!

Think of what the increased water rights will do for the Israeli farmers and populace.  One of the calculated and intended consequences of kinetic action.

Frankly, I'm surprised that the article authors and bloggers haven't cottoned on this yet.  Maybe its' just my perspective... looking down at the terrain.  Kirk out.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 12:59 | Link to Comment Captain Benny
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US war drums are beating.  Time is running short for the big collapse.  War on three fronts.  Financial. Middle East.  Far East.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:00 | Link to Comment Bawneee Fwank
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Ahh yes, must come up with a reason to attack the ones fighting against the CIA led Terrists.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:01 | Link to Comment JustObserving
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"Why let the truth get in the way of another good war?" The Iraq and Afghanistan wars only cost $4 trillion to $6 trillion compared to Vietnam which cost only $738 billion (all in 2011 dollars).

With Bernanke printing $1.02 trillion a year, we can afford this war.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:00 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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Clue: Assad in the mosque with an ibuprofen...

WMD: Weapons of Mass Delusion...not sure any of these POS's can be trusted. It's looking like dictator whack-a-mole from the ME to NK to ?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:01 | Link to Comment Oxygen
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It will be a 'hot'summer!

War with Syria/Iran/North Korea, at the same time ?!

 

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 16:32 | Link to Comment Matt
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Bush got two wars going, so Obama has to one-up him with three. Sorry, those are military adventures or kinetic actions or whatever they call them these days.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:01 | Link to Comment Smuckers
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...varying degrees of confidence...
Like we see in the USD?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:26 | Link to Comment Urban Redneck
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from the same team that full confidence in Solyndra, Fisker et. al.

 

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:03 | Link to Comment Luckhasit
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I'm waiting for whatever reason they are going to use to explain military action in the midst of a "sequester".

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:29 | Link to Comment Meat Hammer
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We always have enough money to free the fuck out of people.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:03 | Link to Comment imaginalis
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Short refinery fires, long cruise missiles

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:02 | Link to Comment Petrus Romanus
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REALLY!!! Fool me once......

Distract

          Distract

          Distract

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:32 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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"Tracing a Threat"  [Sarin etel?]  by bethany halford 2/6/12

http://cen.acs.org/articles/90/i6/Tracing-Threat.html     or  http://pubs.acs.org/iapps/wild/cen/results.html?line3=chemical+forensics

scroll down

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:04 | Link to Comment Arius
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this explains the quick flip flop with gold .... otherwise, i am convinced it was going to go to 1200 ... peut etre soon ...

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:04 | Link to Comment Volaille de Bresse
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Reminds me of the 1990 "babies snatched from incubators" bullshit from Koweit...

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:04 | Link to Comment Manipuflation
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I am going to flip flop and leave work early to go to the liquor store in 3,2,1...Out.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:21 | Link to Comment Pseudo Anonym
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some place in ont. canada?

go to the liquor store

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 15:40 | Link to Comment Manipuflation
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Not Canada but I can see it from here whilst sitting on my ottoman.  MN.  You know, that US state where nearly every city's name starts with a  "Saint" but everyone is a crook nonetheless.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:08 | Link to Comment diging deep
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hmmmm ..... so 3hrs ago, FSA Armed Groups Shelled Al-Safira Chemical Weapons Depot, Aleppo Governate and now we get the above headlines??? see vid below...wonder whats in the "white smoke" then???

 

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2e4_1366896566

 

OH!! slight snackbar warning,

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:10 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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Well at least it was varying degrees on a small scale, unlike Wall Street fraud which is indisputably on a grandiose scale.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:09 | Link to Comment Meat Hammer
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I'll have more flexibilty after the election.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:16 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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obama to putin; we'll talk turkey after the election [wink] 

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:55 | Link to Comment Urban Redneck
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Why wait... The ink is barely dry on the replacement START (New START/START III) treaty before Russia announces.... http://rt.com/politics/redesigns-missiles-railway-based-soviet-era-243/

So did Vlad play Barry like a like the dumb-ass little BOY that he demonstrates the strategic intellectual capacity of, or is Barry some sort of Commie-Cock-sucking-TRAITOR?

It simply is not possible that something such as rail-mobile TELs (nuclear missiles), which are extremely difficult to counter were left out of the lengthy treaty negotiations "by accident"...

Incidentally, Russia was only thinking about building new missiles before the election... http://rt.com/politics/russia-missiles-defense-transport-military-941/

So the Germans might want to hold onto their American hostages at Ramstein a while longer, at least until they get their gold back and can solve their EUR/USD conundrum...

 

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:12 | Link to Comment Meat Hammer
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Redneck, you know this is smoke and mirrors and Obama is just a puppet.  When Barry spoke with certainty about the election over the hot mic it made the hair on the back of my neck stand up.  The fact that elections don't matter was affirmed right then and there.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:39 | Link to Comment Urban Redneck
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He's a willing puppet - and he does have a choice.  Elections do matter from standpoint of providing an aura of legitimacy.  But since there are only two options presented, the result is a foregone conclusion after the two "elections" (and I'm being generous) that actually determine the end result occur in August, the rest is just big $ payback to big media and sheeple fodder.

What's scary to me isn't that a staff of perhaps a couple hundred "professionals" from WH. State. and DoD could conspire and fuck up that badly, but afterwards when the signed text was presented to the entire Washington establishment prior to ratification- including 100 Senators, thousands of Hill staffers, and at least 10,000 lobbyists, think thank intelligentsia, and media muppets, some sort of consensus that this was even remotely acceptable emerged from that corruption.   

 

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:42 | Link to Comment Meat Hammer
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Great points.  I whole-heartedly agree.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:10 | Link to Comment GrinandBearit
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"Stock market crashes due to World War 3 ... film at 11".

 

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:13 | Link to Comment Everybodys All ...
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and almost inexplicably comes back in minutes... /sarc

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:10 | Link to Comment andrewp111
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What's wrong with Syria using chemical weapons? The other side should use them too.  The more the better. Let's make the Muzzie Civil War one for the history books, guys.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:28 | Link to Comment ThisIsBob
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Let them turn the place into a parking lot.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:40 | Link to Comment Zwelgje
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The US paid FSA intends to kill all 3 million Christians living there. It is not a 'muzzie' thing you stupid redneck.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:42 | Link to Comment Sandmann
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They have destroyed every secular regime in the Middle East for their Saudi paymasters

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:16 | Link to Comment TrulyStupid
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Dear Comrades:

We must now prepare for war with Syria whom has always been the major existential threat. We have always been at war with Syria.

Dear MSM: (confidential)

The Ministry of Truth reminds you that we have always been at war with Syria and requires you to edit all past references to North Korea and substiture the word Syria in its stead. Please also revise past references to Iran with "North Korea" and Iran with "Iraq". Further instructions to follow

Party Members: (of both official parties)

Please rally the populace to support our valiant troops. Leading chants of "USA", "USA" still seems to work. Please also redirect the subjects of your daily five minute  hate from Chechnan Al Queda Muslims to Syria the country.. please feature the word "Evil".

Yours in Christ:

Big Brother

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:43 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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now that's funny! almost sounds like an apocalypse comic strip for the latter-day-saints

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:15 | Link to Comment I Am Not a Copp...
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Here.  We.  Go.  Again.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:19 | Link to Comment Jena
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The Viet Nam anti-war protests finally took off because of the expanded draft, right?  Is that what it will take to get enough people to wake up and say no more eternal war? 

Maybe Charlie Rangel is right about something for once in his tax-dodging life.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:20 | Link to Comment emmadavis
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Only a day after saying he did not have American intelligence that Syria's government used chemical weapons, the U.S. Defense Secretary says Assad used sarin gas on a small scale against rebels.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:22 | Link to Comment Henry Hub
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They say they don't have "credible or corroborated facts". But, but Israel, our most closest friend ever and the only democracy in the Middle East says it's so. What more evidence do we need. I'm sure we can trust Israel with the facts and they would never lie to us. Would they?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:24 | Link to Comment ThisIsBob
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The government doesn't have a clue;  all it has is lists.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:27 | Link to Comment Debt Slave
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The United States. Israel's dumb, murderous golem of the middle east.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:30 | Link to Comment ziggy59
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Money making idea..
Get 5000 tee shirts with " I DIDN'T SAY THAT"

Sell to every leader, .gov PR person, etc..

..KaChing!!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:32 | Link to Comment JOYFUL
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Right on cue...here it comes! Lock down the Merikan peeple in a fog of fear about 'furrenners' out to fulminate 'terror'...

then redirect all that indiscriminate 'angst' and 'anger' into 'aggression...against any non-descript furrenner regime currently a candidate for the "libyan liberation' treatment...

aka...rape n pilllage for the purpose of plumpin up the fast-emptying coffers of a dying ZATONIC vampire\empire running outta victims at home to feed upon. A script so crude...so B movieish in it's conception that at first one cannot quite believe it to be 'real' ...

and then one real-izes...in the post-reality world we live in, the 'theatre of war' has knocked down our door, and attacked us so as to defend us!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:33 | Link to Comment Joe A
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Perhaps they did, perhaps they did not. Point is that after the infamous photoshopped 'evidence' presented by Colin Powell in the UNSC nothing coming from any US government institution regarding evidence that some country did what/has what can be considered credible anymore. Especially coming from a country that uses uranium in its weapons.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:34 | Link to Comment youngman
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This is going to screw up the sequester....can´t cut the military now...

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:35 | Link to Comment LaoTzu60606
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just called Colin Powell, says if you believe this one, he has some

yellow cake uranium available in Niger...

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:37 | Link to Comment Dre4dwolf
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The USA invented the most potent deadly chemical and biological weapons, arrest the mad men who created this stuff.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:58 | Link to Comment Getting Old Sucks
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In Viet Nam, we fired just as much White Phosphorus shells as we did High Explosive shells.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:37 | Link to Comment ziggy59
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Never BeLIEve a LIE

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:40 | Link to Comment Sandmann
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They never helped Iran when Saddam used them

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:48 | Link to Comment rotagen
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The Joozians, they're wacky, don't let them cancel the "earth show".

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2QkBFMjlag

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:51 | Link to Comment lakecity55
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The Spice Must Flow

 

I left my perch in Central Asia today and headed for Dhaka, where unrestrained exploitation of the workers has led to over 100 killed in a collapse of a shoddy factory building near Dhaka.

The aircraft flew a course over Iran. From the excellent vantage point of high altitude, I was unable to see the Persians feversihly at work on a nuclear weapon.  If they are building one, you would have to really look, with eyes on the ground. I do not think even a spysat could really determine the status of an Iranian nuke scheme.

 

On the way, I stopped off at the UAE for a few hours to score some Arab Gold in the glitzy duty-free bazaar of the Dubai airport.  They had some beautiful wares: platinum and palladium bullion, and gold coins of every nation. I chose what I call a dinar, a 1/4oz gold coin commissioned by HRH__________, the Ruler of the UAE. I am ashamed of the vig I paid the Dealer, but I don’t get a free trip to Dubai every day, either. Ever since I was a lad I was attracted to the sovereigns Lawrence gave the Arabs during the Revolt in the Desert for the attack on Aqaba and the idea the Arabs would also create their own gold currency one day.

Of course, as we have found out, it is too dangerous an idea to pursue.  Both Saddam and Kaddafi were not known as the most loving of dictators, but thinking about going gold got them whacked, not gassing Kurds or blowing up airliners. You can do all of those you want. Just leave the Gold alone, if you want to survive and make sure the IMF gets an invite.

As I flew out of Dubai with thoughts of Gold on my mind, I began to see the tankers lining up like boxcars on an ocean-bound freight train in the Strait of Hormuz. My fantasies crumbled as I saw tanker after tanker holding Black Gold, The Spice as Frank Herbert described it, and I saw for the first time the stark reality of the fragile energy system we as a planet depend upon.

If war breaks out over the Iranian nuclear issue, the Ponzi fiat system of TPTB will explode as the Spice flow ceases and economies implode.

 

Think about that.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:56 | Link to Comment Zelotai
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Syria has "weapons of mass destruction"

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:55 | Link to Comment WhiteNight123129
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Now you know why it was necessary to wack Gold for the bullion banks to cover their shorts!!!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 13:56 | Link to Comment the grateful un...
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and Obama is helping Bush dedicate his Presidential library. Suppose the shrub is giving obummer a few tips on WMDs?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:04 | Link to Comment Meat Hammer
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Bloomturd is now at the podium talking about the Boston bombers' additional plan to bomb Times Square.  Prepare for more talk about how freedom is dangerous to our freedom.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:15 | Link to Comment djsmps
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There are now reports that the terrorists had plans to attack the Wichita Film Festival.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:05 | Link to Comment luckylongshot
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General Wesley Clark let the cat out of the bag years ago when he said that after Iraq, the US plan was to overthrow the governments of Libya, Syria and then Iran. So why are you even taking discourses about Syrian chemical weapons seriously? This is a carefully planned coup that is the fourth in a series of coups that America is behind. It is arguable that the destruction of American civil rights and Obama overthrowing the Magna Carta are signs that a coup has also taken place against democracy in America. Welcome to global fascism.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:24 | Link to Comment Joe A
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Wesley Clark was the one that led the illegal bombing campaign against Serbia over Kosovo. When he found out that due to clever Serbian tactics the NATO alliance did not hit sufficient military targets, he shifted focus of the campaign to civilian infrastructural targets such as refineries, factories, hospitals, open markets, commuter trains and random houses in random villages. NATO used cluster bombs -which are banned- and depleted uranium weapons, mostly in Kosovo -the place they were defending. As a result people are now getting sick and dying from cancer and leukemia. Among the first KFOR troops to arrive after the conflict -Italian soldiers-, sick rate and deaths are high. So high that the soldeirs are taking their government to court. Clark was also the one that wanted NATO to attack a Russian contigent that moved from Bosnia to Pristina airport in Kosovo. The English singer James Blunt who was a soldier in the UK army at the time refused to follow that order after consulting his English general who commented to Clark "I will not start WWIII for you". Due to this incident Clark was probably recalled and forced into retirement. Now he is making money in Kosovo involved in a mining company.

The war against Serbia was the test case for any NATO led intervention that followed: Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and now Syria. The tactics are: demonize one side in the conflict, arm and train the other side, enforce a no fly zone and eventually bomb the place. NATO had acquired a new role for itself after the fall of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of communism. The mantra became 'humanitarian intervention'.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:07 | Link to Comment The Ram
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I see Chucky Hagel has quickly been brought into the Zionist fold or this announcement is just more propaganda from the MSNM.  Let's see what happens in the next month.  If it does result in direct American or Israeli intervention, it is probably a good sign that the market is about to blow. 

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:24 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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So America has taken it upon her shoulders to liberate the world of hateful regimes and in the process it has become the most hated regime itself. Even her own people are increasingly coming to hate their own government. Then again I ask myself "is it in fact their government?" The answer is increasingly "no".

The USA is concerned about the use of toxic chemicals but it is not concerned with its people being record consumers of toxic pharmaceuticals. It is concerned with weapons of mass destruction but allows Monsanto to plant its seeds of destruction.

Who is going to liberate Americans I ask?

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:32 | Link to Comment Jake88
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Americans have been dumbed down and castrated. They will never rebel.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:24 | Link to Comment rsnoble
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Didn't the US fry a bunch of people in Iraq with chemical weapons?  What's the fucking difference?  We really are the big satan.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:31 | Link to Comment Jake88
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What ever Assad is he isn't stupid. He isn't going to invite the US in by using WMDs.  Seems the CIA is slipping. I thought they would have pulled of an Assad backed WMD attack by now.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:46 | Link to Comment haskelslocal
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AlgoFlu

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:36 | Link to Comment Jake88
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You got one part of that wrong. This is not meth.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:39 | Link to Comment q99x2
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Globalists will say whatever is needed to create terrorists.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:41 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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I hear that the US government is developing camouflaged condoms so the enemy doesn't hear them coming. In the meantime lie back everyone and think of Mother England.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:44 | Link to Comment Meat Hammer
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Holy shit...look at gold!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 15:12 | Link to Comment MFLTucson
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Of course!  Now that economy is folding, time for another made up war!

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 20:51 | Link to Comment DrData02
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What is so difficult about this?  Just tell Colin Powell what Obama needs him to say.  Duh.

Thu, 04/25/2013 - 23:56 | Link to Comment Totentänzerlied
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They are in possession in a large quantity of pressure cookers. Iranian-made pressure cookers. Drone 'em!

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