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CISPA Is Dead; Internet 'Privacy' Safe Again (For Now)

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The controversial cybersecurity bill, known, ever so gently as, the Cyber Information Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA) - since it's for your own good - that passed the House last week

looks set to be shelved in the Senate according to representatives. The bill would have allowed the federal government to share classified "cyber threat" information with companies, but it also provided provisions that would have allowed companies to share information about specific users with the government. Privacy advocates also worried, rightly so given previous experience, that the National Security Administration would have gotten involved. As US News reports

, Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.V., chairman of the committee, said the passage of CISPA was "important," but said the bill's "privacy protections are insufficient." One of CISPA's staunchest opponents, the ACLU, added, "CISPA is too controversial, it's too expansive, it's just not the same sort of program contemplated by the Senate last year." While this is a short-term victory for everyone who uses the web, the ACLU warns, "we need to be vigilant as the year moves on to make sure that whatever the next product is, it's not CISPA- lite."

 

Via US News,

CISPA is all but dead, again.

 

The controversial cybersecurity bill known as the Cyber Information Sharing and Protection Act, which passed the House of Representatives last week, will almost certainly be shelved by the Senate, according to a representative of the U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation.

 

The bill would have allowed the federal government to share classified "cyber threat" information with companies, but it also provided provisions that would have allowed companies to share information about specific users with the government. Privacy advocates also worried that the National Security Administration would have gotten involved.

 

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"We're not taking [CISPA] up," the committee representative says.

 

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Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.V., chairman of the committee, said the passage of CISPA was "important," but said the bill's "privacy protections are insufficient."

 

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"I think it's dead for now," says Michelle Richardson, legislative council with the ACLU. "CISPA is too controversial, it's too expansive, it's just not the same sort of program contemplated by the Senate last year. We're pleased to hear the Senate will probably pick up where it left off last year."

 

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But cybersecurity legislation in the Senate, such as the Cybersecurity and American Cyber Competitiveness Act of 2013, has greater privacy protections than CISPA does. Richardson says that bill makes it clear that companies would have to "pull out sensitive data [about citizens]" before companies send it to the government and also puts the program under "unequivocal civilian control," something CISPA author Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., was unwilling to do.

 

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Richardson says she thinks it'll be at least three months before the Senate takes a vote on any cybersecurity legislation.

 

"We need to be vigilant as the year moves on to make sure that whatever the next product is, it's not CISPA-lite," she says. "I think this is probably going to take the rest of the year."

 

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Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:02 | 3503217 francis_sawyer
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We don't need no stinkin' badges...

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:06 | 3503222 THX 1178
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Non-hierarchical structures FTMFW.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:08 | 3503236 Abraxas
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They just need to pass one law and that's that all democratic processes are suspended indefinitely and that the leader (furer) will decide the will of the people. For that, you need a crisis and a scapegoat. Iran will do.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:15 | 3503271 prains
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no the scapegoat needs to be homegrown and from within, that way the "fear" gets ratcheted to the level where it needs to be for the sheep to be happy with house to house searches every night

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:23 | 3503293 Precious
Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:29 | 3503322 TheTmfreak
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WHY THE HELL AM I IN AGREEMENT WITH DEMOCRATS?

I guess if republicans are for it, democrats must  be against it.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:38 | 3503355 McMolotov
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Both parties take turns pretending to give a shit about liberty. In the end, it's all as fake as professional wresting.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:41 | 3503370 kralizec
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Professional wrestling is fake?!  NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

;)

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 15:24 | 3503556 CH1
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I'm glad CISPA failed, but Internet Privacy is DEAD.

Please understand that the Internet is a Surveillance Web.

Really.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 16:22 | 3503728 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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My favorite provision in CISPA was where they said if a corporation detected a threat then it was immune from prosection for *hacking* to neutralize the threat. It's over, folks...it's over.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 17:25 | 3503944 HardAssets
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Well the next time they reintroduce it, they want to push for an even stronger bill.

They will replace corporate authorization for hacking with corporation authorization for shooting. (There's gotta be a lot of private contractor money in that game domestically.)

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 20:35 | 3504469 espirit
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HeHe, the CONgressCritters don't want to caught up in a trap of their own design.

Whowouldathunk?

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 21:06 | 3504570 Scarlett
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Don't ask your government for your Privacy, take it back:

If you have any problems installing or using the above software, please contact the projects. They would love to get feedback and help you use their software.

Have no clue what Cryptography is or why you should care? Checkout the Crypto Party Handbook or the EFF's Surveillance Self-Defense Project.

Just want some simple tips? Checkout EFF's Top 12 Ways to Protect Your Online Privacy.

If you liked this comment, feel free to copy/paste it.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 17:49 | 3504026 RebelDevil
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Not exactly. There's something called the Advanced Encryption Standard (AES), and its rivals TwoFish and others.
Just because the best encryption algorithims are NSA approved doesn't necessarily mean that they're breakable yet.
It will take many years or shit loads of supercomputing power and time to crack AES, even if the NSA tried.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 17:22 | 3503933 HardAssets
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TMfreak: "WHY THE HELL AM I IN AGREEMENT WITH DEMOCRATS?"

Little one, let go of 'Dem' vs 'Repub'  it is all an Illusion. A diversion from the Path and the Way.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:21 | 3503303 Buckaroo Banzai
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In Germany, they called it "The Enabling Act". They are much more straightforward and efficient over there, you know.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:27 | 3503313 centerline
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Here, it would just be an executive order.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:36 | 3503358 Buckaroo Banzai
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Maybe, but why not get it rubber stamped? Congress is just about completely rigged, so it's not like anyone has to go out of their way to make it happen. Look how fast they did the Patriot Act-- and that was 10 years ago! Consider how far they've come since then.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:43 | 3503391 oneshotklink
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I for one do not believe for one second that they aren't already monitoring the entire net at will (with the exception of those portions of the net that are controlled by people smarter than those on the parasite payroll).  Since when does passing a "law" on a piece of paper limit governmental action?  They just get out another piece of paper and write down a "legal" permission slip granting them the authority to do as they intend.  And sometimes they probably (if not certainly, given the manifest success of multi-decade propaganda campaigns) just do as they intend and we know nothing about it.  Or perhaps both.  After all, even criminals tend to have a code.

At bottom, the founders failed to realize that their extremely noble goal of creating "a nation of laws, not of men" is fundamentally impossible.  All nations will always be nations of men.  Sadly, too few of our men today are both righteous and educated (as distinct from schooled).  Consequently, we continue to wade deeper into our own sewer of legislation, regulation, violent force, and general degradation that we ourselves have clamored for.  Then we complain about the effects, and beg for more of the causes.  We should probably stop looking up at Washington/NY/London, and look around.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 20:08 | 3504398 willwork4food
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+1. The mere fact that the bill (supposedly) failed because of pressure from the ACLU is enough for me. Horse & pony shows are main themes in DC and this is one. Why would they build a multi-$$million dollar fascility in Utah to capture & store data if they didn't have a reason to do so?

They know each and every one of us, our avatars, our birthdays and the type of girls we like to screw. This is not to discourage, but to make aware that when the SHTF, we will have to chose between slavery or disenfrachising (losing your friends, your jobs), poverty and possible death.

They know the stakes..do you?

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 21:06 | 3504583 YouAreBliss
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This bill let's Corporations hack your e-mail.  The Patriot Act (when observed) allows the government to collect everything already...Thanks to the GOP!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:13 | 3503253 El Oregonian
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CISPA meant your Bill of Rights would of been CRISPA...

Not that they're almost already are...

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:15 | 3503262 kliguy38
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Miss Lindsey didn't want his birthday pics out with McGain in his diapers.....

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:07 | 3503226 prains
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try, try and try again they will until they succeed. Just need a few more "boston bombings" to warm up the sheepies

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 17:40 | 3503978 margaris
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It's machine against flesh.

I think most dystopic scifi stories ever written that deal with the war against the machines (matrix, terminator etc) are nothing else than allegories of the fight against this enslavement machine of TPTB.

As you say, they will try, and try, and try, and respawn, and respawn and respawn, SOPA, PIPA, CISPA, like a fucking indestructible zombie or something, until they succeed and you smell boiling frogs everywhere.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:08 | 3503232 Aeternus
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FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyklt01lN_I

Sat, 04/27/2013 - 02:32 | 3503344 CaptainSpaulding
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You mean FREEEEEDOM..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5aPBU34Fyk

                    RIP my brother

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:11 | 3503243 McMolotov
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Overheard after a few more "terror" incidents:

"It's for the children. I've got nothing to hide, so they can tap my phones, monitor my email, molest my wife, and give me a cavity search. If it saves just one life, it's worth it."

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 16:29 | 3503744 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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What a bunch of cowering cowards Americans have become. London had >100 IRA bombs in the 1980's and they didn't destroy the country and their rights and their finances trying to root them out.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 17:34 | 3503977 HardAssets
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Well, its up to us to really get in peoples faces about this. Bring it up to those you know and be a pain in the ass about it. This happens because people put their heads in the sand; its happened throughout history.

For the so called 'liberals' call them on all the lies and broken promises of O - - - from getting out of the wars to Gitmo to 'more open government'.  For the conservatives . . . challenge them about US support for Al Qaeda in Syria, the cost of the wars, and the fact that more soldiers now die from suicide than combat (if you want to 'support the troops' - bring them home with sound mind and body to their families).

This goes on because the national symbol has changed from the Eagle to the Ostrich.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:17 | 3503270 wee-weed up
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Of course, just because the bill got shelved, doesn't mean the gov't is not ALREADY doing these things to the American people.

CISPA would have just served to make it legal and official.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 21:08 | 3504588 YouAreBliss
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When no one prosecutes these crimes they don't need to have it legal!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:20 | 3503296 Banksters
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Ah fascism, it smells like shit.

 

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 15:03 | 3503479 1000 splendid suns
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Fecalism!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 15:33 | 3503224 Jekyll_n_Hyde_Island
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Associated Press 1336  04262013

  In what can only be described as a freak transposition of bodily functions, Chairman Bernanke sharted himself earlier this morning. 

  Witnesses say the incident occurred while Mr. Bernanke was consulting the Federal Reserve Ouija Board, attempting to determine the numerical sum of future Icosahedron die rolls.  The die, fondly called “the blackrock” is used during a Dungeons & Dragons/Macroeconomics game played by some of the most powerful men in the world via a Federal Reserve hosted video conference. 

  A White House correspondent described the game as, “a crucial part of our economic policy” and, “a custom tailored, multifaceted tool that quantifies the demands of the Federal Reserve and its global initiatives.”

  When prompted to answer the cause of a grown man sharting, a medical professional on site observed, “the shart was probably a result of Chairman Bernanke’s inability to measure risk with investment.”  He went on to say, “Subsequently, his sphincter was unable to know the difference between a solid and a gas.”

 

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:08 | 3503225 RebelDevil
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Glad to see a Rockefeller has commented, and now we know his opinion, which is a fake moderate one.
Fuck you Rockefeller! You, and your family are scum!

Long live the awesomeness of the internet!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:09 | 3503233 redpill
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I'm so fucking sick of this pretend shit that we "need" expansive internet regulation.  Go fuck yourselves and keep your filthy fucking fascist hands off the net.

Love,

redpill

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:29 | 3503330 css1971
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You don't understand. They need to know every intimate detail of everybody's life. That's why Google tracks everyone and Facebook keeps a profile on everyone.

If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 15:06 | 3503474 DaveyJones
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And then there's the Aaron story:

http://www.democracynow.org/2013/1/14/an_incredible_soul_lawrence_lessig_remembers 

I don't do a lot of federal defense but I've done some and these unique "property" charges, with the victim begging the prosecutor not to prosecute, and the insane number of counts and punishment, say it all. I don't give a crap what the prosecutor's husband (an IBM exec) leaked on twitter about "the offer" (in violations of a the rules) which got immediately removed. Once again, they're getting more "blatant."  Out of desperation plus a growing awareness that, sure, there are a lot of idiots out there, but there's a whole other crowd as well. The more they press down the lid, the hotter the steam. 

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:07 | 3503237 Dr. Engali
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Privacy protection my ass.When the feds are building the world's largest data collection center in Utah they don't give a rat's ass about privacy. What they do care about is making sure the right palms get greased.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:08 | 3503242 ekm
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Fully agree. It's all bullshit.

Napolitano responded to a senator last week that the gov can choose which laws to apply...........REPEAT THIS AGAIN...THE GOV CAN CHOOSE WHICH LAWS TO APPLY.

 

Conclusion: Nobody cares about laws any longer.

 

 

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:12 | 3503258 Dr. Engali
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" Well, when the President does it, that means that it is not illegal."

 

Richard M. Nixon

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejvyDn1TPr8

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:18 | 3503259 RebelDevil
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Maybe... I've been hearing talk about how people were asked if they were ok with getting rid of the 6th amendment, and most of the sheeple who cared to take a listen said yes!
And I'm asking, what 6th amendment? - The Bradley Manning case shows they don't give a shit and plain out ignored it.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:14 | 3503267 HD
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If you run across a clip of that I'd love to see it.  DHS=KGB

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:38 | 3503367 css1971
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Privilege. Private law.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:10 | 3503250 RebelDevil
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Hence why keeping your data well encrypted is so freaking important!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 21:10 | 3504592 YouAreBliss
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They can break any encrption in seconds - good luck!

 

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/

Sat, 04/27/2013 - 13:44 | 3505699 RebelDevil
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Yeah, I know about the data center. Don't be an idiot. AES has never been broken, and will never be broken for a long time.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:08 | 3503241 Dre4dwolf
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When a bill is defeated, why are they allowed to simply rename the coverpage and re-submit the bill? 

 

Theres your problem.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:11 | 3503245 Whatta
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In the end they will paperclip it to another bill, something anemic sounding like Funding Undergrad College Kids (or, FUCK for short)...and it'll pass under radar.

Seig Heil!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:09 | 3503246 HD
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Color me shocked. Police state mildly inconvenienced.

Tomorrow is another day for those in Jackboots. At least we still get the "Market Fairness Fuck Tax Payers Again Act" on all internet sales.

Go CONgress!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:29 | 3503320 Buckaroo Banzai
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The power to tax is the power to control. They are going to effectively backdoor CISPA by making the internet subject to taxation, all in the name of "fairness" and "transparency", of course.

Then of course, the IRS will have to set up a whole Department of Internet Tax Inspectors, who will have all the surveillance and enforcement powers "necessary to enforce the law." After all, Federal law demands Federal law enforcement... right?

Just like the income tax was the way prosecutors would get convictions when no other ways worked, the internet tax will have the same function in cyberspace.

Surprised and disappointed nobody else has noticed this yet.

 

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:34 | 3503348 HD
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Great point.  My take is the government is already doing as it pleases - we have no privacy rights. These new laws simply legitimize what they have already been doing for years.

 

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 15:26 | 3503565 DaveyJones
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it kills two birds. Lots of backdoor control and a whole new revenue stream

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:13 | 3503254 Elk peanus
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dumb question - the picture of the mustachioed guy - who is this and what is it from?

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:17 | 3503278 redpill
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That's "Big Brother" from 1984 (actor is Bob Flag).

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:31 | 3503328 IridiumRebel
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Rather ironic that Apple commercial from 1984 about Macintosh. Where's my sledgehammer?

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:13 | 3503256 ukmetman
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Liberals and progressives never give up. Control freakery is in their genes. On the otherhand, libertarians and freedom lovers usually just want to be left alone to get on with their lives.

 

This is a one sided contest, folks. The fascists will be back.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:23 | 3503297 prains
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freedom to do whatever the fuck you like is great! without explicit freedom I'm not free to build my house next to a fertilizer plant or vice versa, WTF! why can't I do whatever the fuck I like when I like to whom I like, geese that sucks

 

 

where do you draw the line?

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 15:43 | 3503613 Overfed
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Personally, I don't mind a little social Darwinsim. Let people build their homes wherever they like. If they are stupid enough to live next to a bomb factory, then so be it. I don't need the fucking nanny state to protect me from myself.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 18:54 | 3504193 prains
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sure

but what happens when the bomb factory sets up shop next to your daughters school?? then what?? 10 billion people by 2050 and it's supposed to be dog eat dog? no team effort what so ever??

 

the american experiment of freedom at all costs, means the oligarchs get to call all the shots while giving you the ILLUSION of freedom. That's what REALLY happens

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:24 | 3503260 earleflorida
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 *Pepe Escobar @   http://www.atimes.com/

"A post-history strip tease"  __ 4/26/13

**{     http://www.atimes.com/atimes/World/WOR-01-260413.html     } 

ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Hobbes    [simulacrum: a slight, unreal, or superficial likeness or semblance ie) massaging visual /virtual manifestated surreal simulated thoughts?   ***{ a war of cyber wordphonics? encrypted in room 101}

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:44 | 3503409 centerline
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Good reading.  Lots of trips to the dictionary there.  Thanks.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:17 | 3503266 vincent
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.Gov will now refrain from further violating US Americans (thanks Miss Teen SC) civil rights.

Cause, you know, they've been warned.

As a consequence, they'll embark on violating  (and continue to violate) the rights of other citizens on the globe, and get back to US when they have a little more time.

I personally don't feel any less violated. Do you?

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:17 | 3503268 Colonel Klink
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You truly want to see riots in the street, don't worry about having people's money blatently stolen.  Just shut off cable and the internet.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:24 | 3503307 RebelDevil
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BAHAHAHAHAH! It's inevitable! How can one keep $150/month comcast service with your money that's being stolen!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 15:05 | 3503502 Freddie
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TV and Hollywood = supported by retards who liked to be brainwashed.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 15:18 | 3503540 RebelDevil
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The same goes for Churches, Mosques, and Synagues. #ReligiousPower

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:18 | 3503273 Leto II
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Propaganda Translation: The AP hack claiming Obama got blown up did not drum up enough fear. We need a bigger event. NSA Spy center not online till Sep/Nov 2013. Something will get done by then.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:33 | 3503346 Buckaroo Banzai
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Was the armed attack on the nuclear plant in Tennessee a few days ago another false flag that got accidentally derailed by a vigilant security guard? Obviously the mainstream media doesn't care for a reason. The Eye of Sauron never bothers to turn its gaze inside Mordor, right?

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:50 | 3503439 catacl1sm
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If you can't trust your own orcs, who can you trust?

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:16 | 3503277 The Dancer
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Criminals don't need laws...they despise laws...I'll let you guess who the real criminals are...btw, they spend a lot of time in DC!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:31 | 3503340 knukles
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They exempt themselves from all the laws

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:19 | 3503281 WhiteNight123129
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Off topic> Stock market is ramping up a bit despite poor number.

Did they capture Ben Laden again?

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:30 | 3503331 HD
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"Ben" Laden?  The money printing terrorist.

 

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:20 | 3503284 Quinvarius
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Now execute the people who suggested it.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:18 | 3503287 Mercury
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Nice work guys.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:21 | 3503290 Fuku Ben
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We just haven't learned to love tyranny enough yet 

A winner never quits and a quitter never wins

And if at first or second they don't succeed

They will just try try again

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vShOuKwhvKw

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 15:24 | 3503557 css1971
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Yeah you have to shoot them.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:20 | 3503302 Golden_Rule
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Now we just need the D-bag hackers to stop violating our internet freedom. 

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:21 | 3503305 fijisailor
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OK.  All of you who think you are not being spied on massively at this point in time please let me know.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:42 | 3503382 samsara
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(Sound of Crickets)

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:26 | 3503311 govttrader
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yeah....like the NSA isn't already watching me thru my webcam right now...recording every sound my cell phone mic picks up searching for keywords like "bomb" and "destroy"...recording every image that passes by my cell phone camera lens to run thru facial recognition...and recording every keystroke i type...as i type it...everywhere....

 

does anyone believe this hasn't been going on for years now??

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:33 | 3503333 knukles
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Only the indoctrinated

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:43 | 3503403 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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Try jerking off with your left hand, it will wreak havoc with their recognition programs ...

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:49 | 3503421 notadouche
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When I go righty it's like I'm with a clumsy stranger.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:28 | 3503317 Kirk2NCC1701
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Here is how YOUR senators voted on the Final Cloture on the Internet Tax Mandate:

http://www.campaignforliberty.org/national-blog/final-cloture-on-the-int...

Washington's Dem senators voted the party line, but Oregon's Dem senators did the 'decent' and libertarian thing.  Go Merkely, Go Wyden!  Although since Oregon has no sales-tax, this is a moot point and more of a symbolic vote.

Look at the List of Shame that includes: McShame (AZ), Feinstein, Graham, Corker, Shelby.  Interestingly, Boxer and Cruz abstained.  Internet Tax is supposed to help "level the playing field" in the competition between retail stores and the monster online stores (Amazon).

TAXES, bitchez!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:44 | 3503395 HD
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If they want to level the playing field, they should stop collecting taxes on brick and mortar stores...but that's just crazy talk, LESS TAXES?! Unpossible.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:46 | 3503406 Buckaroo Banzai
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Boxer probably gets a lot of campaign contributions from silicon valley internet companies.

I thought Cruz voted against?

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:44 | 3503393 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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I'm waiting for that new spooky super computing data center in Utah, rumored to have broken the quantum computing barrier, to become sentient and clairvoyant, so that it can think my thoughts before I do and take action before I know what happened.

That way I won't have to delete cookies and files from my browser anymore ...

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:56 | 3503449 JJ McApe
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i am still impressed how resilient net neutrality is till today. but i guess in the end it will lose its freedom, its just a matter of time.

just remember f.e radio... a few decades ago everyone was allowed to broadcast and stuff, like in 50 years from now everyone will remember the internet from the past like when everyone was able to publish and communicate freely. i guess it will just end up like cable tv but with more bs and ads. corporations need more ad revenue Q.Q hahaha

 

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 15:02 | 3503464 notadouche
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On a slightly different subject, did anyone see the interview with the "mother" of the 2 "Boston Bombers" claiming innocence etc...  The thing that struck me the most is that while she made the actions and spoke the words of an upset mother, she didn't have a single tear in her eye which is what I would expect from a grief stricken mother that less than 2 weeks ago lost both sons, both accussed of the most horrific crimes against humanity.  

I believe in the acting vernacular it is called "indicating" where you mimic the actions "as if" you were upset and crying but the last time I checked you actually had to have real tears streaming down your face.  The part I saw on HLN this morning, I was looking at her eyes and they didn't even appear moist much less the actual shedding of real tears.  Now perhaps she doesn't cry that way or is all "cried out" and dry.  Just an observation from one person.  Doesn't mean anything one way or the other but it makes me go Hmmm.....

I would have like to have a DNA of the boys and her to see if there was a real blood relation.  I felt a little "Wagged the Dog" for a moment watching that.  Color me a healthy skeptic on these theatrics.  

Not disputing death and mayhem and "terror" just skeptical of this woman in that moment caught on TV and aired. Who knows what was edited from the "press conference" but I just thought it was phony anger, indignation and most certainly phony sorrow.   

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 15:01 | 3503482 flacorps
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The next false flag gets CISPA through the Senate. Wait for it... Wait for it...

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 15:28 | 3503571 Cycle
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That's great.  CISPA inspired me to go VPN. I'll stick with it regardless.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 16:06 | 3503673 Zer0head
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I seem to recall NDAA was a non starter at least until the Friday before last XMAS

and then it went to the WH where O had  pledged to veto the NDAA

 

and then he signed it into law

 

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 16:13 | 3503697 blindman
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cispa dead? or cispa ahoy carumba?
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http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/90991
Guns and Butter

"Boston Truth: The Suspects - Who Is Behind al Qaeda?" with Michel Chossudovsky. The Boston Marathon bombings; the Chechen connection; media disinformation; US support of al Qaeda and the Chechen jihad; the consolidation of the American police state; the geopolitical implications of the bombings; home grown terrorism; two brothers accused of being the perpetrators.

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speaking of genetic modification...
https://secure3.convio.net/fww/site/Advocacy?pagename=homepage&page=User...

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 16:20 | 3503712 The Carbonator
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This is was really SOPA 2.0

 

One thing to note.  SOPA is a Greek word.  It means 'be quiet' or 'shut up'.

 

I hardly think that was a coincidence.  They are being douche bags right in our faces.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 16:25 | 3503729 Son of Loki
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How they can even propose this bill is beyond me.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 16:23 | 3503733 blindman
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http://viooz.co/movies/17654-sirius-2013.html
A documentary about the life of Dr. Stephen Greer and his quest to expose the truth of existing energy technologies that would change the world as we know it. However, the production team uncovered more than bargained for.
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Fri, 04/26/2013 - 18:09 | 3504070 cooperbry
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Ding dong...

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 19:03 | 3504216 HeavyShadow
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the systems are already in place to do the job they need, recent history shows what they already have could be used a little better

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 21:16 | 3504559 YouAreBliss
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Yeah and who controls the FUCKING House - Stinking Constitution hating - Bill of right shredding REPUBLICANS!!! FUCKING DRONE LOVING, PATRIOT ACT LOVING REPUBLICANS.

 

Who voted it down?  The Democratic controlled Senate! 

 

I now await the moron illiterate brain-dead idiots to reply...

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 21:26 | 3504635 YouAreBliss
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crickets...

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