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German Poll Shows Merkel Losing Majority

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With their economy appearing to slow dramatically, if the PMI and Ifo data is anything to go by, and a nation increasingly disavowed with the European project, it seems the 'people' are not amused. As MNI reports, a poll by Forchungsgruppe shows Merkel's CDU/CSU support fading. Critically, with only 40% backing Merkel, and the 'Merkel bloc' down to only 44%, the opposition and more anti-Europe SPD party gained a point and shifted their 'bloc' vote to 48%. Given that the mainstream parties have excluded a coalition with the Left party, such results would allow only coalitions of Merkel's CDU/CSU with the SPD or the Greens. This raises the question of whether Merkel becomes more hard-nosed in her treatment of European bailouts, cow-towing to her populist needs (especially as Euro membership remains the most popular 'concern' for Germans); or eases the pressure in the hope of a short-term juice of markets believing in joint-debt dreams into the election. We suspect the former, especially given the clear signals from the people as the 'Alternative for Germany' party gathers more headlines - if not representative votes.

 

 

and Euro membership remains the most pressing concern for Germans

 

Source: Forschungsgruppe

 

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Fri, 04/26/2013 - 09:40 | 3502073 Temporalist
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She should be losing weight instead (buh rump bum)

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 09:44 | 3502083 Aeternus
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Well, you know what they say, on a long enough timeline.............

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyklt01lN_I

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 09:51 | 3502131 Abraxas
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Why does everyone refers to this monster as "she"?

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 09:56 | 3502145 Temporalist
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All ships are called "She" or whales too as in "Thar she blows!"

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:01 | 3502167 xtop23
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Euro discover-check. 

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:18 | 3502205 i-dog
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I'm just puzzled as to how towing cows is going to help her!?

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 11:21 | 3502474 walküre
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Euro debt and financial crisis is NO.1 concern for voters

AFD - Alternative For Doucheland - is not even in the polls and has at least 10% support or more

Germans are sick and tired of the RED/GREEN/YELLOW/BLACK paradigm. Sick and tired of the established goons who offer no solutions and instead are carefully in power to protect the status quo.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 11:54 | 3502629 Mountainview
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AfD would change this sterile discussion of the politico-establishment...Let's wish them well!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:24 | 3502771 knukles
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Put them Neo-Nazi Tea-Party Copy Cats in power. 

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 09:43 | 3502080 williambanzai7
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Sink the BisMerkel!

SINK THE BISMERKEL

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 09:58 | 3502159 BandGap
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Jeez, this is not a good way to start the day.

Rhymes with Erkel.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 09:44 | 3502082 swiss chick
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Sweet...

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 09:44 | 3502085 Dan The Man
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Its good to be king

 

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:02 | 3502169 Sudden Debt
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Louis XVI, 10 august 1792

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 13:14 | 3503007 Harbanger
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"The people are revolting!" -Count de Monet, History of the World 1981.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sztf4hcGrB4

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 09:45 | 3502091 fijisailor
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As has been repeatedly shown in many different countries, if Merkel is, out then another big bank lackey will be found to fill her position.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 09:47 | 3502100 Dan The Man
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...but it always seems to be a slightly more extreme replacement

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 09:49 | 3502118 CrashisOptimistic
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The opposition party is more pro-Euro and pro-bailouts than she is.

This is a non story.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:03 | 3502166 BandGap
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You said "fill her position". May I suggest a delicious Johnsonville brat cooked up on a charcoal grill with all the trimmings? Along with an ice cold Heileman's Old Style that sure would hit the spot.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 09:49 | 3502107 Bearwagon
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So germany will get a great coalition composed of CDU/CSU and SPD with her as chancellor. "There is no alternative!"

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 09:47 | 3502112 ak_khanna
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Illusion of Democracy today.

People sponsored by the rich, make false promises to the masses to get elected. Distribute national wealth amongst themselves and their sponsors (Industrialists) and when that is not enough borrow money from rest of the world and continue the distribution process. The borrowed money has to be paid back by taxing the masses keeping in mind that tax rules are made such that the politicians and their sponsors pay minimum or no taxes.

End of political tenure, rinse and repeat till the whole system breaks down and the world wealth is cornered by a miniscule of the population.

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article35345.html

 

www.letstalkmoney2012.in

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:35 | 3502277 css1971
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Which is why we obviously need bigger government and more laws.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 11:08 | 3502417 HardAssets
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ak-khanna - - - Agreed.

Should also add that while stealing fom the masses they use 'we're all in this together' language. They blame the people for what has happened ('social programs' that wouldnt be required for many to survive, if the banks hadn't stolen 95% + of peoples earnings through the hidden tax of inflation going back for many decades, - - - and outright fraud & theft by insiders). They create internal & external enemies of various types from immigrants to 'terrorists'. And they force most people into public 'schooling' that makes it almost impossible for most of the population to see through the massive propaganda.  In time the level of corruption is so bad by the small population of selfish insiders, that the whole society is infected beyond saving - a hollowed out shell of a nation and economy and a people.  They often resort to war as a means of distraction and to clamp down on dissent.

Perhaps there is just enough of what was the true Spirit of 1776 still left in a small minority of Americans (and others around the world)  to see through all their lies this time around.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 09:47 | 3502115 Zola
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Interesting to see how fickle the top concern is!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 09:51 | 3502123 archibald tuttle
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This is completely wrong info. The SPD is even more pro-euro than the CDU. They would introduce Eurobonds tomorrow if they could. The greens are even worse.

Regarding the euro, there is no alternative in the german parliament. As merkel would say, it is "Alternativlos". That might change if the new anti-euro party AfD gets above 5%. But the odds are against it: all media is exclusively pro-euro, and whenever somebody disagrees they are painted as nazis.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:21 | 3502217 i-dog
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+1. Such misstatements about the SPD discredit all further analysis.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:27 | 3502257 Temedar
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+1. AfD will probably get over 5% (if it makes no major blunders and is allowed to run in the elections), but it changes nothing.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:30 | 3502268 css1971
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This is why I'm expecting Merkel to lose in September, SPD/Green to get in, and all will be well in Euroland. Money for everyone.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 09:54 | 3502132 NoWayJose
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Merkel may already be getting tougher - it seems like German rhetoric has been 'Dressed to the Neins' lately.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 09:53 | 3502139 semperfi
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From the GBS (Global Bankster Syndicate) script, page 48:

Act 347, Scene 32:   Merkel then, in her re-election campaign, takes a hard-line against EU bailouts, and announces her platform will be based on Germany exiting the Euro and going back to the Deutsche Mark - cementing her re-election.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 11:15 | 3502151 StarTedStackin'
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No worries for Mutti, as the Obowel Movement's Just Us Department is loaning her 30,000 armed Black Panthers to watch the polling place entrances!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 09:58 | 3502152 Smegley Wanxalot
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Wait!  What's not to love about the Euro?

The BundesMisinformationsAmt says it's the greatest thing since opium.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 09:58 | 3502158 Azannoth
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What's really disappointing is the lack of support for Alternative parties(there are quite a few in Germany), seems like the Germans are betting their future on the same people that caused all the problems in the 1st place

The Left-Wing Right-Wing paradigm is alive and well in Germany

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:28 | 3502256 Harbanger
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What makes you think there isn't a Left-Wing Right-Wing paradigm?  Alternative parties are also either left or right.  They may lean either authoritarian or libertarian, but socially and economically there is definitely a left and right wing.  What we're experiencing now in the EU and US is leaning more towards authoritarian left.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:04 | 3502164 Democratic koolaid
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Germany has been grinded and screwed over since the Franco Prussian war.    

They essentially, now that they are under control, are hitting their stride.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:03 | 3502165 Sudden Debt
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THE MERKEL'S TEARS CURE CANCER!!!!!!

to bad THE MERKEL NEVER CRIES!!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:16 | 3502191 uno
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it's said that the Merkel will howl on Full Moons

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:21 | 3502226 ParkAveFlasher
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The Merkel requires your oldest child, stuffed with mushrooms and sprouted corn and baked into a mince pie, so as to keep its complexion taut and ever glowering.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:31 | 3502264 They Tried to S...
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Too bad her decisions create cancer

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:08 | 3502174 Democratic koolaid
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If she got a facelift and a boob job she would certainly be re-elected.

Not that she needs any work done now that she is well into cugartown.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:14 | 3502195 Village Smithy
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I think her bus left cougertown quite a few years ago.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:19 | 3502207 Schmuck Raker
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Anyone interested in more info on German Pol parties might give this a glance (via Mish):

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2013/04/understanding-german-...

It's brief, and I found it helpful.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:27 | 3502243 Bearwagon
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Additionally it is mostly correct.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:21 | 3502219 jjsilver
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Polls are meaningless without all facts. Anybody can create a poll to suit an agenda

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:28 | 3502248 MrNude
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Yes, yes they can jjsilver that is why Uncle Ben Bernanke would like you to see his new polls telling you to invest all the money you have in the world in stocks, these new polls results say you will be a winner!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:25 | 3502231 Village Smithy
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I will be buying a little bit of the DAX here. I respectfully disagree with Tyler. She will do as all politicians do and take the course of least resistance. She will try to induce the "wealth effect". Besides it behoves her to stay in the Euro elite's good books so that when she retires from politics she will have a nice trough provided from which she can extract generational type wealth.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:31 | 3502260 Bearwagon
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Careful with that DAX! Repost:http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-26/overnight-sentiment-sours-bank-...

No advice, I'm not an expert, but watch this.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 13:30 | 3503089 GottaBKiddn
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So true, and Merkel knows exactly what to do when things get important, Follow the Template, "Lie". The Germans, like everyone else, are easily taken in by the simple bait and switch. And, the elite will only respect her more.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:25 | 3502249 W T F II
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I believe Merkel's admission in Dresden today was a MAJOR departure from Deutsche-Orthodoxy...Methinks things change DRAMATICALLY, righ here, right now...??!!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:28 | 3502250 W T F II
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I believe Merkel's admission in Dresden today was a MAJOR departure from Deutsche-Orthodoxy...Methinks things change DRAMATICALLY, righ here, right now...??!!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:29 | 3502265 orangegeek
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Yep - fire Merkel and hire a socialist - because socialism is the solution.  LMFAO!!!!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 10:48 | 3502334 Sauerkraut-Opinion
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SPD/Greens more "anti europe".

This is new for the Germans: Until now we believed especially this Parties demand Euro-Bonds and the communitarisation of Southern Europes government- & bank debts.

And dead sure I'm not wrong, living here all life long. ;-)

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 11:21 | 3502364 falak pema
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The EU has no debt....this is the new meme!

The entity about which dear Henry made that awesome remark : Europe; who do I telephone? 

Now we hear that EU having no debt, can raise 1500 billon Euros at a drop of a hat, for a massive spending spree and support to club med; the dream of Keynesian Europe.

If such reasoning takes hold of EZ, then Euro-Abeshitnomics, like FED print, will be the universal religion of first world and Mutti will indeed belong to the Mme Tussaud's museum. 

Austerity??? Now what does that word mean? And WHY should it be? 

Could be very fast in place as of October fest of SPD and Grunwald !

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 11:06 | 3502367 ThereWas
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ZeroHedge, you need to stop lying. SPD is not anti-europe! They actually support Eurobonds! LOL

 

It's as when you claimed that capital flight would be a sure thing in Europe, meanwhile reality:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-26/cypriot-bank-deposits-fell-in-m...

Deposits increasing in all Eurozone countries minus Belgium and Finland.

 

As when you guys turned out so surprising that the Spanish government gives help to those buying car by claiming "It's so weird because Spain doesn't have its own car brands" ignoring that Spain has factories from foreign brands.

 

Or as when you claimed that Spain cannot export with a strong Euro despite that export growth resumed in January and February with the € between 1.30 and 1.40

 

And so on, so forth. As long as people buy gold you guys will lie.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:34 | 3502802 mendigo
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Interesting point...but when you grow up you will come to realize that many times people (or bodies of quasi government) are not always telling the full truth - particulary people who have a lot ves...ted in the outcome. You do realise you just cite Bloomberg which cited the ECB, right?

Over time you come to realize who you can trust at least to a point. The Tylers are not always right but usually closer to the truth than the crap you are accustome to eating. And even when Tylers miss they are at least offer a different perspective. Do you take offense at people offering a different perspective - do you find it wrong and dangerous?

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 16:46 | 3503791 ThereWas
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My beef with ZeroHedge is that oftenly it is not about offering a different perspective, oftenly (as in this case) it is about blatantly lying to scare people so investors buy gold.

 

Actually, I feel really sorry because I used to like ZH as it started as a trully activist blog but now it's just a blog that wants people to buy gold, and if it has to lie even about fundamental things such as how much a country exported with a given currency rate, or what a given political party supports, so be it. Really sad.

 

But I guess, as times goes by the motto of this blog will be also applied to ZH itself.

 

When I see Bloomberg saying stuff like "SPD is anti-Europe" or Spain exports don't grow with the € over 1.30 or that capital flight is happening when actually it did not, then, I'll also critize the MSM you guys hate so much here.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 11:06 | 3502401 q99x2
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Germany needs a man in there that doesn't take any shit from no new world order mongoloid mother fuckers.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 11:16 | 3502447 german Wunderkind
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the merkel bloc has only 40%... the fdp wouldnt be in the bundestag with 4% and the SPD bloc is just at 42%, "die linke" isnt part of the bloc and has big problems with the SPD (the head behind the party is an prominent exmember of the SPD and a Persona non grata in  big and important parts of the SPD)

 

the SPD ist not more anti-Europe then merkel.

SPD and CDU are both strong PRO-europe, CSU and parts of the FDP are much more ANTI-europe.

and much more important then the general Pro or contra europe is the struggle of some partys, the CSU will say and do EVERTHING to win bavaria(the csu is a bavarian regional party)

and the FDP ist struggling to be reelected into the bundestag(5%needed) and has a relay broken structure.

 

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 11:21 | 3502465 monad
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Hey now just let me pull this poll out of my ass. OK, now I have a poll from the Institution of Fecal Affairs that shows Merkel leading unanimously. Coincidence? I think not...

Have you ever been polled? Not ever. Polls are props for cons.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 11:57 | 3502635 Encroaching Darkness
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And just where do you think you're going, towing a cow like that?

(Jeez, Tyler, run spell-check once in a while! "kowtow")

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 11:58 | 3502637 mendigo
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need more discipline

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:57 | 3502938 elwu
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"opposition and more anti-Europe SPD party"

 

Not sure where from you have your knowledge about the preferences of the large German political parties.

But anti-Europe, the SPD is not.

Quite the contrary: the socialist SPD even supports Euro-bonds, which are a never ceasing transfer of German taxpayer's money to the finance industry and the profligate countries.

 

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 16:52 | 3503807 ThereWas
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I'm from Spain and I don't support Eurobonds right now (I wouldn't want my country to stop reforming because it has access to easy credit again), but I think your vision about Eurobonds is a bit extreme, as mutualization of debt doesn't have to work exactly in a way so countries can issue debt without control and with other countries paying for the issued debt of individual nations. The only thing Germans may suffer is a slightly higher yields wich of course would be bad for Germany but Germany wouldn't be paying for the debt issued by other nations.

 

Anyway, the key thing and why I support Eurobonds for the future is that if you have a common currency you need a common bond and a common banking system for the shake of stabilty.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 16:11 | 3503687 Cliff Mclane
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...the opposition and more anti-Europe SPD party ...

Merkel got in Parliament (in per cent) more votes from the SPD than from her own CDU and the FDP . The SPD and the Greens wanted even more money for bail-outs that her own party. The SPD is fighting for Europe tirelessly. A quick look into German publications and newspapers would reveal that.

But you have a real problem: You do not understand the German language. My English is pretty often better than your German. Btw: Google translations are often terrible to say the least.

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