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White House Hints At Use Of "Military Force" In Syria
And it was shaping up like your typical boring, noonish "gold-smackdown-so-JPM-can-refill-its-vault" Friday. Trust the White House to come out, guns blazing, false flags waving, and make those selling hard assets into the weekend think twice:
- US PURSUING "DEFINITIVE" EVIDENCE ON SYRIAN CHEMICAL WEAPONS
- WHITE HOUSE SAYS OPTIONS FOR DEALING WITH SYRIA USE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS INCLUDE, BUT ARE NOT EXCLUSIVE TO, MILITARY FORCE
Well, you know what they say: seek and ye shall find. Just ask Bush.
As for what the White House failed to mention is that the other options are, well, military force.
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You mean to tell me that the banksters are using my mother's social security prescription drug medication money to create terrorists that will be used to attack her and all US citizens.
That is probably not a good idea.
Exactly, and all those Depleted Uranium rounds we use on village children weren't chemical??
The Big Question: And if we do, what will be Putin's counter move? Please submit your best guess....
Same as Kim young sun or whatever the fuck his name is.
Russia is the #1 oil producer in the world.
His move need be nothing more than to reach his hand out to close the spigot a few turns.
he can't afford to lose Tartus, which he knows he will if NATO boots Assad.
I don't see this playing out without some type of direct confrontation between Russia and NATO, on what scale is anybody's guess, but I don't see where any sort of back alley deal can be made. the question is who else will pile on and who will sit on the sidelines once the bullets and bombs start flying?
I would at least argue that this announcement has the potential to be one of the biggest steps we have taken towards WW3 in a very long time, possibly since the Cuban missile crises.
According to old scripture, before we can invade we need to be attacked.
Correction - according to the Bush Doctrine, preemptive war is OK at any time we think is right.
great...one errant cruise missile hits Tartus and this whole bullshit bombs for freedom kinetic military action non war, war will go sideways in a hurry.
though it will do no good, I wrote my local congressional lemming strongly expressing my opinion that we would be better served if the US just sat this one out (including defunding support for the "rebels") . that it might appear a bit hypocritical if we poured money and military assets and risked American military lives in support of those whom we have been engaged in combat with in Afghanistan and Pakistan for the last ten years...
again.
Libya groupthink 2.0, they are only terrorists when the feds need them to be, cause 2+2 = whatever the state wants it to. god, I hope this time john q public isn't stupid enough to support this.
this government constantly finds ways to make me sick beyond what words can express...
What about North Korea? Oh, wait...they are Obams's allie per Rodman.
That's why Ill Kim Dim Sum Dip Shit got all butt-hurt and went nuclear - he thought Obama was sending over "Rodham".
Quick send Kerry, that face will scare em straight.
McCain, what a tool.
PUMP UP THE DISTRACTIONS!
The Obowel Movement is running out of gas.
And it begins:
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2013/04/25/boston-terror-update-2-april-25-the-syria-objective-is-nearly-accomplished/#more-19696
After providing definative evidence of chemical weapons use buy Syrian government, President Obama plans to hold auctions for government owned ocean front realestate in Colorado and Arizona.
Syria is supposedly where the Saddam regime shipped out chemical weapon stocks during GWII. So there is, probably, the same ash-and-trash mustard gas program articles around Syria, similar to what "Chemical Ali" used against the Iraq Kurds in 1998.
That being said, this Iraq redux; a predetermined invasion plan launched with a WMD casus belli. Pure luv for the war contractors.
Politicians throughout my lifetime has always viewed chemical warfare as "breaking the rules" of some agreement made by certain governments in what is the the more "gentlemenly way" to kill people. Nothing like politicizing death and somehow ranking killing into a matrix of good vs bad ways to kill. I don't quite understand the logic. They human being killed is dead. The how after the fact is totally insignificant to the dead. It only makes the killers somehow feel better and more "humane" What a crock of shit. Dead is dead. End of story. If a government is going to take a decision to kill a person or a society then do it and quit acting like there is a right way and wrong way. That the "chemical gas" excuse is somehow justification for taking out another government is pretty played out excuse as well. Not much original thinking or creativity anymore. Just trot out the same old shit.
If our "leaders" decide to make war on another country it would be easier on the taxpayer if they just went old school like Sherman did, or perhaps get original thought going and leave it alone, which should be the only option. Even if it did happen, only when the majority of the citizens of that nation decides enough is enough and stand up for themselves will there be any chance of success and our involvment will actually be viewed as liberators and we will see the throwing of the flowers that we always hope for.
When the colonies decided to take the Revolutionary stand, the stand came from within, after much debate and careful consideration if history is to be believed. At that point, once the commitment was made, the seeking of outside help from the French believe it or not was sought and gained. The French just didn't unilaterally decide on their own that we needed "freedom". Yet the US seems to skip that step and just decide we owe it to other nations people to "set them free" and ironically the US citizen is becoming less free every day. What a clusterfuck of a world we now have on our hands.
However all of this nonsense has nothing to do with freedom and protection and more about a continuation of a monetary business process as well as power process, than it is about doing the task as quickly and efficiently as possible. No profit in it that way. I suppose it is just too much to ask these elites to quit fucking around and let people just enjoy life and quit shoving their fist up our asses, as the puppets are exhausted and our assholes need a break in order to tighten up so we can regain our control over our own bowel movements. Instead they keep going deeper and deeper until they are tickling our larynx.
One last thing, isn't it intersting the same subset of Americans that once fought so ferverantly against that John Wayne type of America and "fight the power" and down with the Authority are now so entrenched in shoving the very genie they released from the bottle a few decades ago back in? Hmmm.
Remember "make love not war", "War what is it good for, absolutely nothing, say it again", "Hey Hey LBJ how many kids have you killed today", and lastly there was something about "not trusting anyone over 30". I guess now is truly the time to take the "brown acid" that was tainted at their Woodstock. Perhaps that is the problem, they all took that brown acid and they are tripping in unison. Talk about an asshole generation.
Wasn't he going to be the president who brought the troops home? Hope and Change? What hope? What change?
I have an idea for America to balance the budget. Stay home. Let other people solve their own problems because we (the west) have proven that we can't solve their problems for them. We save the cash and rebuild our balance sheets and they figure out how to live together and call us when they have it worked out.
I was wondering why it is OK to kill people with bombs, guns and even nuclear weapons but repugnant to do it with chemical weapons.
Then I realized that guns and bombs are a bit more discriminating. When you drop chemistry on an area it kills the whole area. I suppose the elites don't like weapons that kill everyone (and everything for that matter). They would prefer the weapons that can only kill the little people and leave them standing behind their bullet proof glass. Besides, if you poison a region you can't come back to it soon and commercialize it. With a bullet, you can
Killing is killing in my book
In fact, it is quite the opposite. Nerve gases can be quite effective (with proper wind) and after 1-2 days nothing is left and the area becomes safe again. Depleted uranium and phosphorus ammos, on the other hand, leave long-term effects, like in Falluja.
Chemical weapons are forbidden by Geneva convention, and thus can provide a casus belli, while the other ammos are not forbidden.
When I heard Obama call W "a good man" yesterday I knew we were fucked.
Thanks for that comment "Meat Hammer". I have to agree with you, I thought the same thing. Obama is not that much different from "W" in his war mongering and banker ass kissing.
We NEED to accept that America IS a ONE PARTY state. The basic way they govern is the same. Obama is a war monger, and liberals are trying to cover that fact up.
Obama = Hilter = warmonger
Liberals = Stalin + Marx
What Liberal used to mean:
1. a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties
2. a person who favors an economic theory of laissez-faire and self-regulating markets
Now in 2013 this is what it means.
1. Executive order abuse when Republicans want checks and balances
2. Drone attacks approved by the U.N. instead of congress
3. Monetary policy based on whatever Bernanke/Fed says
4. GMO Monsanto shills in charge of USDA and FDA allowed Judicial immunity
5. Blame Bush for everything
6. If you don't want to cooperate with a symptom relief, Rockefeller Foundation financed, drug for profit Health Care for profit paradigm that ignores prevention and nutrition, Pay the IRS a penalty(tax)!
Don't forget that politics is the 2nd oldest profession, closely linked to the oldest. ;-)
As such, it makes NO difference which political whores are supporting "their" candidate. Perspective, my friend, perspective.
Funny, it just seems like yesterday Obama was skull fucking W on a daily basis. Now he's not only continuing many of the same "reprehensible" W policies that were the notions of a half a retard he's even turning up the heat on many of them and the Hollywood elites, the NY Times, ACLU etc.... all those Bush Bashers are mum today. Either those folks have to admit Bush was so fucking ahead of his time and a much more forward thinker than the "Progressive Power Elites" are or they are the most intellectually dishonest, hypocritical cocksucker to walk the face of the earth. I just don't see a third choice here. Any other choice would be tantamount to being half pregnant. By the way, I personally think we can rule out option 1.
Wait, are you saying politicians are lying, hypocritical cocksuckers? So that explains it.
Especially fucked when it is said by a lying, psychopathic, war-mongering Kenyan.
When the US economy is looking down, start a new war.
The US is already blowing loads of money on supporting overseas forces.
My first reaction to this Administration lie. Here we fucking go again, the Neo-Con warmongers in Washington are gearing up for another big win. The taste of victory in Libya is finally getting to them. Israeli and the USA are hand in glove with the FSA in fabricating this LIE in order to finally get this war going.
Here is something for the warriors to think about. Syria ain't Libya. Libya's radar and moblie missile air defenses were not manned by Russian troops. Syria's are! Does this matter? Well, that is up to Putin and Assad. When NATO begins it's assault on a Syria, it is the radars and air defense missile units that it will first go after. It is a sure bet that Russian troops will be killed in an all out air assault on Syria's air defenses.
Where Vlad takes it from there is unknown. But he knows damn well he has provided Syria with some fairly decent mobile AA systems and Putin has manned them with Russians who know how to use them. NATO or Israel will go flipping insane when the first NATO plane goes up in a fireball. From there NATO will start carpet bombing Syria with cluster bombs. Russians will surely be killed when NATO goes insane. Then it is up to Vlad. Does he surrender at once to NATO? I don't know the answer. But he would be a god damned fool to KEEP surrendering to every NATO attack. He might just have supplied Syria with "Iskander" surface to surface missile. In which case, Vlad has an option to hit some NATO targets VERY hard and VERY fast. Like a Turkish NATO airfield from which the attacks might be launched.
I can't know what is going to happen, but this time Russia is backing Syria, Syria has some modern AA systems, they are manned by Russians. I do know that the Congress on orders from Israel is chomping at the bit to conquer Syria, this starts with air attacks and then the hopes that Al-Qaeda and the FSA can gain a cheap victory like in Libya. Again, Putin has a say in all this. His Navy has a base in Syria, it is from that base Russian troops enter Syria to man the air defenses and it is through that port that Iskanders are said to have been shipped.
Lets say Putin backs Syria. A ship with more mordern AA systems arives in Tartus. Does NATO sink a Russian merchant ship under escort by a Russian warship?
The NATO war mongers are insane. That much I am 100% certain of. They do not care how many they kill. They don't care how much this costs American taxpayers. They don't care how many American soldiers and airmen must die. The USA, NATO and Israel are now becoming an AXIS of evil.
Vlad will give the order to Ill Kill Bill Kim Dim Sum Sheep Dip to hit the big red button and launch.
The Turks have already been forcing down Russian jetliners flying between Moscow and Damascus. Russian and Iranian ships have already been boarded at sea, and interned in Cyprus. So yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if NATO kills a few Russian advisors on the ground in Syria.
Syria's military is poorly equipped. They got nothing with which to confront a NATO force. The Russians have only been providing resupply of ammo and spare parts for the Syrians' obsolete arsenal of 1970's and 80's material.
The Syrian national air defense system is already in tatters, since the rebels, at the behest of their foreign backers, have spent a disproportionate amount of effort attacking Syrian air bases and early-warning assets. Only Tartus itself has a more modern anti-aircraft defense, and as long as NATO doesn't directly attack Tartus, it probably will never be engaged.
As in Libya, Western forces will only do the airpower. A small number of advisors and special forces would be deployed on the ground. The infantry will come from the Syrian rebels, and from "volunteers" from elsewhere in the Middle East.
The vast majority of the slain will be Syrians, and almost all of the material damage will be confined to Syria. Western casualties will be negligeable. As for the financial cost, we all know Bernanke & Co. will deal with that: one quick trip to the lavatory, and they will ease themselves to whatever quantity is desired!
The only wild card is if the Putin and his motley tribe of Russian oligarchs decide not to blink. But they blinked in Iraq, and they blinked in Libya. As a result, the Russians got themselves a huge credibility problem, and credibility is the key to deterrence.
It creates a dangerous situation for the world, since the USA and other Western aggressor powers have developed a sense of impunity in recent years. No significant sovereign power has stood up to them during the past quarter century, and the current generation of political leaders in the West have lost much of the relative caution and modesty of their Cold War predecessors.
So if the Russians do decide, by some chance, to try to establish some credibility over Syria, would the Western powers back off? I doubt it. Instead, I am pretty sure the Western powers would escalate.
Watch oil closely...and the PMs....if we invade these will go stratosphric qiuckly i suspect.
zeit zurückspulen das wünsche ich seit wochen
macht kein unterschied, ausserdem dass du edelmetalle und gezielte aktien billiger kaufen konntest. oder die ricthige lotto nummern getipt haetest. :-)
The rebels are losing the war so that is why America steps in. Just like in Kosovo and Lybia. When the rebels trained by the West in both these places were getting their arses kicked, that was the moment some 'atrocity' was 'proven' in order to justify 'humanitary' intervention.
MI-5 reportedly in Syria? To make sure that no Assad's people testity the truth of WMD use? The West's new buddy, Al Qaeda, needs weapons and a no fly zone.
MI-5 reportedly in Syria? To make sure that no Assad's people testity the truth of WMD use? The West's new buddy, Al Qaeda, needs weapons and a no fly zone.
How stupid are the American people? Do they really buy that Barry gives a shit about how people are killed in Syria? Here is a hint. He doesn't give a shit about Syria or the Syrian people. Peace prize? I bet the Nobel folks are rethinking that whole thing.
Re How stupid are the American people?
As dumb as a nation of craven imbeciles led by scum-bag lying psychopaths can possibly be.
And then some.
I heard one guy in the Nobel department did want to take it back.
We need another war soon,,,,,,,gotta keep our boys fighting fit.
It's much more ethical to annihilate the little people with high-explosive drone strikes than with sarin gas.
Game of Drones bitchez!
Agent, I thought I told you to set up a Syrian for the Marathon thing.
Sorry, Sir; thought you said to use a swarthy student.
Do better for NYC and LA, fergawdsake!
Yessir, you can count on me.
Attaboy.
Dip doesn't seem to be lasting long, does it. Any bets on the close?
24.15 and 1473 seem about right.
BTW, fuckwar!
Here we go again. Another massacre.
Another country to be ruined.
Doubts?
Look how they gave Iraq SOME FREEDOM.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/10-years-later-u-s-legacy-in-iraq-death-dis...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKloRm_2Wr0
WATCH IT! WATH THE BABIES BORN AFTER US ARMY USED DEPLETED URANIUM!
Because they're about to devastate another country!
And Obama dares to accuse the Siryan government!
Look WHO has been using all kind of perverse ways to destroy life:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCNLXj-R5Jc
WATCH AND SHARE.
How long before the headline ?
White House Hints At Use Of "Military Force" In the Homeland
McCain already gave that order.
See Boston.
Up here from our earth orbit, Mr. Spock sees the need for moar Syrian water rights for Settlers and farmers downstream along the Jordan river.
The need for an oil and gas pipeline via Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Syria (for Israel and the EU) needs to maintain schedule integrity also. The "illegitimate" Syrian government can pay for it with gold, while they swing to the Gangham/Hangman Style. It sure would be useful to leverage Big Bully to do the dirty work.
And don't tell the Federation I'm messing with their Prime Directive again.
I'd have a lot more respect for this government if they just said they were going to attack Syria and remove Assad without resorting to more lies. What's next, Obama looking under desk for Syrian sarin cannisters?
We're gonna spend our way outta debt and we're gonna bomb our way to more Peace Prizes.
America, fuck yeah!
Obama wants to be like Bush.
http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=53047
Actually, he just wants to make Jamie, Lloyd, and Michelle happy. And show up W, not be like him.
I heard Syrians were tossing babies out of incubators as well.
The War Machine is hungry. It must be fed.
Samuel Croxall asks, referencing political alarmism, "when we are alarmed with imaginary dangers in respect of the public, till the cry grows quite stale and threadbare, how can it be expected we should know when to guard ourselves against real ones?"
Israel wants the US to do "something"; I totally agree, except my answer would be:"Yes, we will do something - it's called NOTHING." It's Syrians killing Syrians, as best I can tell, it's their problem, THEY need to sort it out.....
+100
Is Syria foreplay for a larger Iran incursion maybe?
THE BOY WHO CRIED WOLF
The tale concerns a shepherd boy who repeatedly tricks nearby villagers into thinking a wolf is attacking his flock. When a wolf actually does appear, the villagers do not believe the boy's cries for help, and the flock is destroyed. The moral at the end of the story shows that this is how liars are not rewarded: even if they tell the truth, no one believes them.
A comedian said a good one about "W's" statue at his new library- "It's pretty bad when even your statue looks confused."
The only people lauding him and his stupid library are the other assholes with libraries and soon-to-have libraries. It will be cool to watch those libraries burn down as they are sure to be someday when people finally wake up to these last 4 presidents.
Us? In Syria? Now that's what I call "sarindipity."
the fact of the matter is that 0Bomber Admin is going against a national entity if he attacks Syria with no provocation. I think killling millions of South Sudanese is more of a reason to attack North Sudan, but there is no self aggrandizing motive like oil & gold and continuing our "Spring"-time frolic through the ME.
Fauxbama will "study" the red line situation for the next 3 yrs and get back to us on the $200k per speech trail.
The gay puppet is going to start WW3.
Yep...And then Jeb Bush is going to run and get into office and we get another Bush for Another 8 years....Because only the morons will be voting anymore.
Is there no end to this terror?
Relax - morons voted in Obama twice. Morons are the voting public. Permanent like.
Heads they find chemical weapons if Jamie ran out of real gold, tales they don't if someone steps up to sell Jamie some gold to cover his obligations.
Had al-Assad been a better student of history, he would understand that you can only get away with gassing people if you're a friend of the United States. And even then, the retirement plan is brutal - just look at Ghaddafi, Saddam and bin Laden.
In 1986, during the Iran-Iraq War, Saddam was using chemical weapons against the Kurds and Iranians, with full approval by the United States. So much, in fact, that the Reagan Admin provided the Iraqis with intel on Iranian troop positions, knowing full well that Saddam would then gas the hell out of them.
When Iran went to the UN to try and get Iraq to stop gassing their troops, the United States moved to block a resolution comdemning the use of chemical weapons! Mind you, by this point Iraq has gassed to death tens of thousands including Kurdish women and children.