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Who Got The Golden Margin Call At The European Close?

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Gold and silver prices are plunging after the European equity markets closed. It seems someone got the tap on the shoulder and needed to fund some liquidity. Given the 'unusual' strength in high-beta European assets this week, it would suggest someone (or many someones) were short and squeezed to cover in a hurry and perhaps this post-close dump in gold and silver reflects the final end-of-week realization of losses that need to be funded.

 

 

or is it post London physical close catch down in paper from the post-GDP move?

 

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Fri, 04/26/2013 - 13:02 | 3502962 Herd Redirectio...
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They are trying to convince people that gold and silver are 'risky and unpredictable'. That is all.  Fiat money held with the bank, or a gov't bond, now THAT is what I call a safe investment!  *BARF*

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:05 | 3502694 docinthehouse
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Time for the TINFOIL wannabe's to pay back their debt and quit manipulating markets.

The oh-so-smart have set us up for an absolute catastrophe. 

New synonym for failure......fedreserve.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:05 | 3502696 IridiumRebel
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Saw this on Kitco.....unshakeable now. The paper price is a reference and in no way reflects true demand and pricing. it just means that the mints are giving us sales price cuz other places are not refelcting this price point.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:21 | 3502752 bluskyes
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Yup, Everyone who's looking for real PM's knows beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the casino's rigged. The only thing that you will leave that casino with, is chips. The gold is gone.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 13:09 | 3503006 Herd Redirectio...
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If you want to buy around 500 ounces of silver you can still seemingly get a decent price ($2 per ounce premium, as opposed to $5 on an AGE)

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:08 | 3502697 EvlTheCat
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Who cares, I already bought at this level twice.  Go lower, damn it!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:10 | 3502704 European American
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"Their" insatiable appetite for MORE never ceases to amaze me. Do they ever sleep?

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:10 | 3502706 BanksterSlayer
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Time for another terror incident ... which city is next? (Already rumours of a nuke event in Los Angeles this weekend.)

 

So, if today's crash plays out the same way the last crash did two weeks ago ... there will be another rush to buy gold around May 1st, when Chinese holiiday is over ... and THEN there will be nothing but a very loud echo in the JPM's gold vaults, yes? And finally a full on default of the COMEX?

 

Happy May Day.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:13 | 3502716 Frank N. Beans
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figures, i bought some 2013 silver eagles yesterday at the high, at 6.50 over spot.  First time I've seen them at my LCS this year.

cheaper than ebay at least

maybe buy more next week if lower

 

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:13 | 3502724 SDRII
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 Unga bunga

Berlusconi won’t participate in new government; “President Giorgio Napolitano wants many posts in the new government to be occupied by young people and women,” Mr. Berlusconi said. “I won’t take part in such a government.”

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:20 | 3502749 knukles
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What?
No chicks or little boys?
The man musta found God!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:23 | 3502762 Cacete de Ouro
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Berlusconi wanted to take part in a government of "young women". Looks like some crossed wires on Napolitano's side...

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:16 | 3502729 SDRII
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Explaining the US flip flop

Syrian government's capture of town a 'big blow to the opposition,' group says. cutting an arms route for rebels trying to topple President Bashar Assad's regime, state media and activists said Thursday.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:14 | 3502730 stateside
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No one buys this "gold liquidation" excuse any more.  If you need to liquidate, you sell US treasuries since they have more liquidity.  Please stop with the "we have a margin call so we need to sell our gold" excuse.  It's a takedown - plain and simple.

stateside

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 13:08 | 3503002 astoriajoe
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I guess it depends on who is making the decision.

If you're account is at JPM, perhaps they have a little more discretion than you do in what gets sold.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:15 | 3502732 bluskyes
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isn't there another banker holiday in China at the beginning of next week?

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:15 | 3502735 Cacete de Ouro
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I reckon your second theory is more correct; when the London OTC market-makers have gone to break out the Bollinger, the comex crooks think they own the place...

Analogous to Ferris Beuller being left in the house with his buddy whose name escapes me..,

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:23 | 3502761 McMolotov
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Cameron Frye.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:18 | 3502738 SDRII
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Explaining the Russian "Privatizations"; doesnt help Mikhail Khodorkovsky  bail prospects. Boris Berezovsky not talking

CIA Officers Advised Russia’s Privatization Minister - Putin

Ex-Privatization Supremo Evasive on Putin CIA Claim; Anatoly Chubais, who oversaw Russia's mass privatization drive in the 1990s, said on Friday he had always treated allegations that his US advisers at the time were operatives of the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) as rumors - until President Vladimir Putin said so out loud yesterday.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:01 | 3503206 Herd Redirectio...
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Khodorkovsky = Rothschild front. 

http://www.bollyn.com/the-real-crime-of-m-khodorkovsky-2/

http://www.voltairenet.org/article168007.html

"In the event of his possible arrest the 40% share of his Yukos stocks would pass into the hands of Lord Rothschild"

As for Putin, you get the feeling he has been designated the role of "major opposition", in charge of a "Cold War-lite".  Could be wrong.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:17 | 3502748 IridiumRebel
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Guys I'll be offline for a moment.....I'm buying MOAR on this little dip......

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:22 | 3502759 mattdubz86
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the cream rises to the top. period. unless your in the know, your only going to win with deep long term thinking. check back in a few years.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:22 | 3502760 MFLTucson
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ahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!  This courrption is laughable!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:21 | 3502764 sudzee
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Still time for a mysterious seller to drop 5000 tons of gold into the market. Must get that price under 1380 at any cost.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:21 | 3502767 No Euros please...
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Seems to me that either these people are morons or they are deliberately trying to smash the comex and LBMA. Let's face it, the paper is worthless because there is no physical gold left to back it up. Paper default in 3...2........1.....

 

Meanwhile BTFD, but I guess the whole world knew that already.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:22 | 3502770 loturco
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just a technical resistance @40 simple average

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:25 | 3502775 Jekyll_n_Hyde_Island
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Time to buy more bullion

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:22 | 3502776 fuu
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Marla always said there would be volatility.

As the warrior poet Slewie once said, "Straddle up bitchez!"

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:36 | 3502822 Dr. Engali
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What happened to Slewie? A lot of people have disappeared. Makes one wonder if they were whisked away by the black helicopter.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:41 | 3502848 web bot
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At least they didn't get Akak.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:02 | 3503216 akak
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They actually did (remember when I got banned during the new pope thread debacle?), but I wormed my way back in.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 15:12 | 3503526 web bot
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LOL my friend! and this coming from an old time Catholic!

This site wouldn't be the same without you my friend. Cheers.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:48 | 3502897 fuu
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Slewie got banned months ago. Before the elections last year.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 13:00 | 3502943 seek
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Banned. He really went off the deep end towards the end. You have to put in some effort to get banned here.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:01 | 3503212 Herd Redirectio...
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What happened with Marla? I remember I made a generalized "Jump, you fuckers" remark that really touched a nerve. 

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:25 | 3502777 Bugsquasher
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As Harvey has taught us, the cartels never, ever, ever let PM rise for three days in a row. Especially if it's on an unemployment numbers Friday.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:28 | 3502790 Its Only Rock N Roll
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golden waterfall (shower) indeed 

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:33 | 3502799 alien-IQ
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I would not be surprised to see gold test 1435 and silver test 23 before the day is over. I don't think "they" are done fucking with these prices just yet.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:36 | 3502813 arkel
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Keep going lower!! I want the sale to continue!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:34 | 3502815 mdtrader
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Completed a 61.8% retracement and it ran into the 20 DMA. So the machines probably all did the same thing at the same time.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:37 | 3502832 Al Huxley
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The machines better simultaneously be joining the lines to buy physical, or their owners are going to be fucked.  Here's how it will go: If the inventories run out and the bullion banks are still short, the long-side contracts will be settled in cash and the exchanges closed.  If the inventories run out and the bullion banks are net long, the speculators holding the short positions will be required to deliver at any price.  I can't believe anybody could look at the outright criminal behavior on all exchanges by FIs globally, and not see this coming.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 13:49 | 3503156 ParkAveFlasher
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Tell you what, if there's a little black box in line to buy PMs, and he's in front of me, I'm cutting his shiny ass, and then I'll be like, "WHAT?"

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:37 | 3502816 Al Huxley
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All that really matters is the physical inventories...Comex, LBMA and GLD.  When those run out, it's a physical market and the price will be real and reflect real supply and demand.  Until then the Comex price is really just a reflection of how gullible the speculators are, and how much paper they want to donate to the Bullion Banks' rigged paper casino.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:42 | 3502838 web bot
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You've made a very important comment. We focus on the Comex, where in fact it is much smaller than the LBMA. The LBMA IS where the real action is. I would like to see more discussion by the Tylers when talking about gold, to also factor in the LBMA. This would paint the complete picture.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 13:40 | 3503135 fijisailor
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Since you said that it makes me think about how the paper price could be manipulated without any physical inventory at all.  I just can't rule that out as a possibility yet.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:29 | 3503324 Al Huxley
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Yes, let's consider it.  I may or may not have a 'warehouse' that may or may not have 10,000 tons of gold in it (think of it as quantum gold - schrodinger's cat gold if you will).  I'm willing to sell you long positions on that gold, and I'm also willing to take long positions if you want to short that gold.  It should be noted, though, that I make the rules regarding settlement and delivery, but you have my 'bankers word' that, should you manage to make money in my casino - er exchange, I will honor the contracts I've written with you to the full extent of banker trustworthiness.  Now, what side of the trade would you like, and how many contracts can I put you down for?

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 15:28 | 3503573 fijisailor
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Count me all in your scheme.  After all, I manage muppet 401ks and get a nice comission no matter how stupid I am.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:35 | 3502820 casaananda
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Fuck the cartel. I hope they burn in Hell someday, along with Homeland Security stooges. This country has never been in such a mess, thanks to our greedy, murderous "leaders". Gold price up some from lows because all the usual buyers came out. I just some the people who own no gold join up. If they do, we be vindicated at last.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:36 | 3502826 pirea
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"It seems someone got the tap on the shoulder and needed to fund some liquidity". If so, why PM comtracts and not US treasury, which they are liquid and you do not loose so much in liquidation? I assume someone has everything in portolio. This theory does not fly for me.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:45 | 3502862 pirea
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It looks to me like: drop the paper gold at any price you can get today, because tomorrow you can get way less or nothing.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 12:43 | 3502834 Kirk2NCC1701
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"All the gold belongs to US" - Goldman Sa...

Sell the sizzle, sell them toxic assets. Then after the poison kicks in, give them Bitter Medicine: short the hell out of paper, force them to their knees and snap up their real and precious assets for small fraction if true value.

Wet, lather, rinse and repeat in each country.

Many are called, but few are chosen.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:07 | 3503227 Herd Redirectio...
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They said Khodorkovsky bought Yukos at auction for $350m (BTW he was also running the auction, so who knows if there were higher bids or not).  Yukos was valued at something like $40 billion, a couple years later.  And no, that wasn't value added by K. 

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 13:29 | 3503100 mattdubz86
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Open Interest on Comex at 1450 is what some pundits noted yesterday, we are all foolish for thinking this was a take down.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 13:52 | 3503166 SqueekyFromm
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OH well, another Irish Poem for the inveterate Gold Bugs. This time, an Irish Poem with a Scottish flavor:

 

AU-ld Lang SHIT!

A Scottish Gold Bug felt some guilt,

For drinking Gold Kool-Aid full tilt.

As the prices dip low,

He goes "up to high doh"

And with margin calls, he's getting "kilt!"

 

Squeeky Fromm, Bonnie Lassie Reporter

 

(PS: "Up to high doh" is a Scottish expression which ehow says "You can apply the phrase "up to high doh" to someone who is worked up, anxious or fretting about something. Its origins are unclear, but it's probably linked to the musical scale, where "high doh" is the top note."

 

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:06 | 3503193 akak
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Now I know why I always hated oatmeal and plaid.

Go to Hell, you brainwashed paperbug conformist.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:14 | 3503265 SqueekyFromm
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OH, for that horribly nasty reply to a sweet innocent little Irish Poem, you get your very own Irish Poem:

 

Gold Kobolds

There once was a pirate named ak-ak.

Who loved his own voice, "yak-yak-yak-yak."

But TRUTH holds no varnish,

And gold? It CAN tarnish. . .

See its luster fade off into black-black.

 

So There!

Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter

 

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:38 | 3503357 akak
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Another PUDdle of crap.

Take it to CNBC.

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:13 | 3503255 fuu
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What's that you say? Jamie is trapped in the well again?

Good girl!

Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:54 | 3503446 MaxFrost
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Tulving has plenty of gold, and 100oz silver bars from Engelhard and JM for $1.60 or so over spot. They had monster boxes back in stock yesterday, at $5 over spot, but they're sold out now. 

http://www.tulving.com/goldbull.html

 

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