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Middle-Aged Suicide Rate Surges

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The suicide rate among middle-aged Americans climbed a startling 28% in the last decade as the rates in younger and older people held steady. This period dominated by two stock market crashes, a real-estate crash, and a hyper-repressive Fed saw a stunning 40% surge in the suicide rate among 35-64 year old white men and women (with non-Caucasian rates steady). 39 out of 50 states registered a statistically significant increase in suicide rates among the middle-aged.

Suicide prevention efforts have tended to concentrate on teenagers and the elderly, but research over the past several years has begun to focus on the middle-aged. As AP reports, the CDC report contained surprising information about how middle-aged people kill themselves: During the period studied, hangings overtook drug overdoses in that age group, becoming the No. 2 manner of suicide. But guns remained far in the lead and were the instrument of death in nearly half of all suicides among the middle-aged.

During the 11-year period studied, suicide went from the eighth leading cause of death among middle-aged Americans to the fourth, behind cancer, heart disease and accidents. Today's payrolls data will do little to lift the spirits of the middle-aged worker; we live in cruel and unusual times.

 

 


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Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:50 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Hope & Change.    Getting the desired effect.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:54 | Link to Comment HelluvaEngineer
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Obviously despair over "sitting on the sidelines" this whole time.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:56 | Link to Comment camaro68ss
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Suicide rates should go down now that the DOW is at 15k right? dont you feel the weath affect?

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:10 | Link to Comment Hard1
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Not necesarily, people short the DOW are prime candidates now.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:11 | Link to Comment SilverIsKing
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Do these figures include those who have been 'suicided'?

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:20 | Link to Comment HulkHogan
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Who cares. A .5 thousandths of a point increase is meaningless, unless I'm reading the chart wrong (22 deaths per 100,000 people).

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:28 | Link to Comment jbvtme
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more parking spaces

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:38 | Link to Comment Divided States ...
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This is troubling...i would have thought that people are buying guns to start a movement or revolution when the time comes....but if they using it to end their own life, then I am deeply dissappointed in society that they took the easy way out.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:42 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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Fuckin A Divided States!

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:46 | Link to Comment Triggernometry
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Oh, the humanity...

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:55 | Link to Comment Buckaroo Banzai
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Aside from fetuses of all races, the middle-aged and the white are the two most reviled demographics in Obamerica. Everything Obama does is targeted at undermining, looting, and disempowering this group of people.

So, why should we be surprised when they start killing themselves more?

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 12:07 | Link to Comment shovelhead
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If I voted on posts I would give you a down arrow for using 'disempowered'.

Almost as bad as disenfranchised.

Meaningless neologisms created by Sociology mavens.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 12:12 | Link to Comment TBT or not TBT
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How about "vilified"?     Obama's standard speech sets up an evil strawman with bad intentions or ideas, greediness, heartlessness etc.   This strawman in Obamerica is a whiter and bitter/clingier version of the dufus dad in our sitcoms and tv commercials.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 12:23 | Link to Comment Dealyer Turdin
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Eric Holder ain't exactly the Tooth Fairy

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 12:46 | Link to Comment The Big Ching-aso
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Suicide's nothing more than a permanent form of suspended animation without an insurance pay-out.   I think I'll wait for a technological breakthrough and see if the future turns out better than now.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 12:49 | Link to Comment boogerbently
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They think their life is all about money.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 18:42 | Link to Comment Manthong
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..and if enough disgusting old white people stopped sending digital pledges anywhere it would bring the whole scam to a halt.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 13:36 | Link to Comment Theosebes Goodfellow
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Dead on, chingaso! (pardon the pun.) That's my thinking exactly. People committing suicide is just another way to say "I'm taking my ball and going home." The game of the Living is completely voluntary. (Unless, of course, you happen to be a fetus with a narcissist mother.)

Not covered in this statistic is how many were suffering from a fatal and incurable illness which would only lead to nothing but pain and suffering or were facing a fate that they simply could not endure. For my part I simply couldn't off myself just yet. I've just signed up for diving lessons. I'm going after my boat that sank with some... valuable commodities on-board.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 13:57 | Link to Comment ian807
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You'll sing a different tune when you get into your 50s, get cancer and can't afford meaningful treatment (MD Anderson has been known to turn off chemo in the middle of a session on discovering that a patient was behind on payments). There are plenty of times when fighting chronic illness, bankruptcy and insurance companies simultaneously makes the prospect of a few years of extended life unappealing.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 14:28 | Link to Comment Buckaroo Banzai
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Chemo is what kills you when the cancer doesn't. It just takes slightly longer. So, getting "the chemo turned off" isn't really the issue...is it?

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 16:31 | Link to Comment Spigot
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In the past year or so: Within my larger circles, two women committed suicide and 1 man attempted. There were a couple more in the larger neighborhood that I am aware of, and who knows how many people just stop taking their life sustaining meds or "overdose" by "accident" or "accidently" drive their car at 90 mph into a tree in a rural area (without signs they tried to avoid the collision). 1 business guy shot himself in the head due to failed business.

These stats are grossly under-reported. The above in an area of about 15,000 people and certainly not at all the total just those of whom I am aware (small fraction).

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 15:52 | Link to Comment aerojet
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Yeah, what a bunch of pussies.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:34 | Link to Comment dryam
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The evidence that our social fabric is coming apart continues to mount.  Keep looking at the increasing number of disinfranchised black youth flash mobs indiscriminately going on violent rampages.  You won't hear the MSM talk too much about this because it's not PC.  Here's a website that talks about this, and a enlightening book about this topic.

http://whitegirlbleedalot.com/

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:47 | Link to Comment SilverRhino
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tag for later review 

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 13:20 | Link to Comment knukles
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Well heavens to Betsy, as a casual observer of the human condition it's not hard to conclude such just by viewing the videos on a veritable plethora of local news web sites which cite riots, beatings, robberies and so on.  Just look at the perps!  They're there in Living Color!  They're just as often not middle class kids running the poochie to the parlor for her trim and wash, FFS.
They're clearly...  fill in whatever you desire on the blank canvas, here... clearly a disturbing element to society's civility and order ...
And yes, I am also personally acquainte with a number of WASP malefactors, as well

Unless now somebody's gonna start calling all the News Outlets Affiliated With the MSM "Conspiracy Theorists" or some such shit and claim that they're sneaking videos into the newscast to wrongly portray some particular "societal elements" as bad fucking actors, lawless and not the best idea in the world with whom to hang out drinking on a Saturday night....

Jesus people, its as clear as can be.
For right or wrong, whatever.  It is what it is, FFS

And the whole politically correct way this country goes about sweeping the elephants in the middle of the room under the rug is compounding the problem multi-fold.
It is by definition the whole reason for the failure to communicate.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 14:29 | Link to Comment S5936
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Breitbarted

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:13 | Link to Comment derek_vineyard
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wonder what the suicide rate was during the nasdaq bubble---from those who didn't buy in, but thought they were left behind

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:17 | Link to Comment Obadiah
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hey I m still here, but yeah I missed that one BIG TIME

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 13:27 | Link to Comment knukles
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Me too.
Was one of them thingies I didn't understand and thus, did not participate in on the upside and by definition, missed the downside, too

Hmmmmm.....
And just think this morning I was thinkin' that this could go on for a while, by definition and some time, the Liquidity Effect will shift away from stawks to something else.... real estate maybe, commodities, maybe.... oh, sounds like tangibles, maybe?

It will ultimately.  It always does.
And right now, at this moment, gold an' silver are not the focal point of the pile on for the Liquidity Effect.
So be it....

That they aren't today is what it is and understandably.
That somewhere the PMs will be, is a pretty damned good bet, in my book. 
(LOL, in my book... ah, unintended, sorry)

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:58 | Link to Comment SMG
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DON'T SHOOT OR HANG YOURSELF, SHOOT OR HANG THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR MISERY, THE OLIGARCHS.  

 

You'll feel much better after that, really.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:19 | Link to Comment Race Car Driver
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It's not misery. It's emptiness. It's becoming a full-fledged adult and finding out that the things that were promised to bring happiness and contentment - don't. That the rug of your future has been pulled out from underneath you. That there is no one or persons or organization to prevent the switch-o-change-o from what one grew up with - the promise that if you work hard you can achieve success and win prizes, prizes, prizes. That the last 50 years of radical change is nothing more than a yo-yo ride and the distractions and thrills are now mundane and boring. The sex, drugs and rock-n-roll didn't make life magical and happy. The material things didn't make life anymore enjoyable - in fact, it just makes things a more complicated hassle. For those who made the decisions to have a family, they're finding out that their kids really aren't theirs and easily become absorbed into a rotten construct of a culture and can be far more problems than good. Many are divorced and disillusioned and don't trust the other gender.

It's not misery. It's depression due to a bleak outlook of the future and an increasingly corrupt wasteland of a culture that leads folks to take themselves out of the game.

Perhaps the promised view just hasn't necessarily been worth the climb.

 

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:25 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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Once you come to the conclusion that nothing is promised it makes it easier to deal with reality.

" For those who made the decisions to have a family, they're finding out that their kids really aren't theirs"

I down arrowed you because you will never, ever even come close to pursuading me of that.

Other than that, I hear what you are saying and I hope you find good in someone or something.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:38 | Link to Comment Race Car Driver
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> I down arrowed you because you will never, ever even come close to pursuading me of that.

Understood. You're very fortunate.

Tho, these are just my opinions - I'm not trying to persuade anyone that family doesn't matter or isn't worth having. Not by a long shot. If anything is gonna improve, it has to start there, at the family level.

I'm really just lamenting that this core of humanity - the family - has been ripped to shreds over the last century by a handful of perverse psychopaths and - in my observations/experience - good relations with relations is one of the hardest, stress and anxiety-causing things to maintain here in the future. 

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:40 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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We sound like these guys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWZU3pPZWig

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 12:01 | Link to Comment shovelhead
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Lol,

I really would rather not care but I'm too apathetic to change.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 12:05 | Link to Comment Race Car Driver
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Concur - but 'these guys' are exactly part of the problem. What they do is absolutely insidious.

Look at either one's politics and actions off screen and lament the fall of Western civilization. What makes them so poisonous is what they say on the screen has nothing to do with what they believe. Mouth-breathers don't understand that and think the role-player is the person. Who doesn't like - or wanna be like - Morgan Freeman or Brad Pitt?

These guy's are change agents - and that's really what they get paid the big bucks for. Both are exceptionally good at deception. 

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 12:33 | Link to Comment TBT or not TBT
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What are Brad Pitt's politics?   The wife likes her Desert Eagles and I though she caught some flack in the UK saying yeah, sure she'd shoot a home invader.    Probably doesn't make her a 2A absolutist, and you'd have to watch what that UN flacking she does means.   The UN is an awful, anti-humanitarian organisation by its very conception.   Brad Pitt I haven't heard anything about.  

Of course Morgan Freeman has been full retard for Ogabe, and casually. as-a-matter-of-factly venomous against The One's strawman racially motivated opposition, whereas what we(Americans who like the Constitution and limited government) don't like about The One is that he is a demagogue, has no proven executive or legislative experience(even now). and is oh I forgot, anti-American.   You know, gets on well with the Saul Alinsky/Noam Chomsky/Jeremiah Wright style of activist lefty tear-it-all-down spewage.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 13:04 | Link to Comment shovelhead
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Smell the coffee Race.

These guys are ACTORS mouthing LINES someone wrote.

No sane person wants to BE Brad Pitt or Morgan Freeman. THEY'RE ACTORS telling a story the   producers want you to spend money to see.

Ya know, make believe? Fiction?

Change agents....ROFL.

Dog help us.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 15:28 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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shhhh, careful, you'll wake up a Tyler. . .

"You see how everything you can ever accomplish will end up as trash {...}
And I'm lost inside

"My father never went to college so it was really important I go to college. After college, I called him long distance and said, now what?
My dad didn't know, so he said get a job.
When I got a job and turned twenty-five, long distance, I said, now what? My dad didn't know, so he said, get married.
I'm a thirty-year-old boy, and I'm wondering if another woman is really the answer I need."

"Nothing is static. Everything is falling apart. I know this because Tyler knows this."

"Maybe self-improvement isn't the answer, maybe self-destruction is the answer."

"The mechanic says, 'If you’re male and you’re Christian and living in America, your father is your model for God. And if you never know your father, if your father bails out or dies or is never at home, what do you believe about God?'"

etc.

culture is in-formed by it's media.  the "media" is the message.  while no sane person wants to be Brad Pitt, plenty of worshiping the Idea-l still happens.  look around you.

culture sells the Ideal, which of course is unobtainable, because culture is advertising, so the stick 'n' carrot are always held just out of reach, keep the aspiration-all working HARD for their STUFF - and that's what keeps the system afloat, the pursuit of STUFF - work, pay taxes, whatever's left, buy STUFF.  hello, Fight Club?

we're just coming to the later stages where the work that pays is being sent to the next farm, fatten up the next feedlot for slaughter. here, you're either on the ramp to the slaughterhouse, or you're smart enough to *disappear* to accept response-ability for your own life.   the smart folks adapt to survive, those who can't, don't.

aaaaand, *SCENE*

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:48 | Link to Comment BandGap
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The only core you have to keep going is your own. The only family you have to keep unified is your own. After that just do as we have been shown - love one another as we do ourselves.

I am 52 and have never contemplated suicide. I can only pray for those having the despair that would allow this. When all else looks dark as shit know this - he loves us all.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 14:57 | Link to Comment Freddie
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+1

Done by TV and Hollywood.   If people watch it - they support it.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:38 | Link to Comment Pseudo Anonym
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up arrowed for this:

" For those who made the decisions to have a family, they're finding out that their kids really aren't theirs"

we're slaves and our kids are slave children that belong to the state.  to the state, we are legal persons with legal personalities who were issued birth certificate, licenses, etc.  thus, we and our kids are the creatures of the state, the state's property.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:43 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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I understand the general point, all I am saying is you are not speaking for me.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 12:58 | Link to Comment Pseudo Anonym
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fair enough.  but the reality is this:  you may not have kids, but you are state's property.  the state issued a birth certificate for you and thus created a legal fiction (a legal person with legal personality), a corporation sole, your corporation.  every time you acknowledge you are the name on your birth certificate (incorporating document), you unwittingly acknowledged you are a legal person; as opposed to a human being, a flesh and blood individual.  your corporation is immortal and exists until is deleted by its creator, the state.  you, the human being, a creature of your maker, lives and dies.  it is mortal.  are we on the same page?

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 13:30 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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Says you.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 21:26 | Link to Comment Pseudo Anonym
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well, then, look it up

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:49 | Link to Comment Nick Jihad
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Count me in. I did everything right when i was young - studied hard, good career, and ended up as every-other-weekend-dad, with my paycheck garnished for child support. And yeah, it is depressing and disillusioning.

But until you see that life is good, even without the material rewards you expected, then the disillusioning process is incomplete.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 12:38 | Link to Comment Yes_Questions
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My ex would have been suicided had garnishment for child support been even a remote possibility.

That's how I felt at the time at least, and it was a time I definetly began to feel a Lack of Meaning the break up of my marriage brought to light.

The emptiness one feels before suicide.  Didn't quite go as far as contemplation, but I think I know the early parts.

 

Oh, and Ex and Child doing fine.

 

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 13:20 | Link to Comment Room 101
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And I down arrowed you for extreme naivete. If you think your kids are actually yours, ask anyone who has had CPS take an interest in their childraising technique. Matter of fact, we had a good story a few days ago right here on ZH about a Russian family in californication who decided that maybe their baby didn't need open heart surgery and had the sheer temerity to want a second opinion.    

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 13:40 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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Pardon me if I don't take every single thing I read on this site completely on it's face. Perhaps "Simon Black" may have cherry picked some info and left out other stuff...or is that just the MSM that does that?  But again....If I were extremely naive I would not repeat over and over that I get the general point of what everyone is saying on here.

 

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 14:04 | Link to Comment Room 101
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It doesn't matter whether you take that story or the hundreds of others like it but not sexy enough to be reported with a grain of salt or not.  The truth is the truth. You have a short term lease on your kids whether you like it or not.  Ultimately the state has sole title. 

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 14:08 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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Well then like divided states said above...it's a bummer the rough and tough american's went out and bought all those guns for all the wrong reasons. I have a lot more to say about it but I don't feel comfortable airing my thoughts here.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 15:51 | Link to Comment BellyBrain
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If you MUST kill yourself, PLEASE do the rest of the world a favor and take out one nasty, "elite" scumbag first. You will end up dead, but SO WILL ONE OF THEM.  Consider it a Win-Win for those with suicidal tendencies. 

Get up close and ask them to sign a copy of their latest self-indulgent piece of crap book.  Just remember, two in the chest, one in the face.  Practice first, though!  Their security will be tackling / shooting you pretty quick, so you have about 1.5 seconds to get off 3 shots.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 17:25 | Link to Comment americanspirit
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I'm thinking Ann Coulter would be a great place to start. Just a suggestion. She's only one of so many who are eminently qualified.

Decisions, decisions. Maybe wait for Bernanke's book tour - shouldn't be long coming.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:34 | Link to Comment RaceToTheBottom
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I doubt that your points, no matter how valid they might be, explain the increase in the last years.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:49 | Link to Comment Race Car Driver
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> I doubt that your points, no matter how valid they might be, explain the increase in the last years.

No - the increase is due to the sensational, unprecidented headlines in the news every day. Awareness is becoming pandemic.

Much of the cartoon that is our 'reality' has only become evident over the last few years and many folks truely - to borrow from the pop-culture slop jar - just "can't handle the truth."

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:31 | Link to Comment Go Tribe
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People no longer cherish having a day off from work each week to go on a picnic with their families. They gotta have it fuckin' all.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 12:25 | Link to Comment Bunders
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That and finding that the world you live in isn't one you would choose to bring kids into and what else does one consent to being a wage slave for?

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 12:51 | Link to Comment Miffed Microbio...
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Once you realize you don't own things, they own you life becomes clear. All those societal desires subconsciously driving you to consume just fade away. McMansion, Mercedes, a monotonous life in suburbia trying to impress your neighbors...essentially being what someone else wants you to be rather than being yourself, all of it just has no appeal. Then you can focus on what REALLY matters to you and have time to explore it because you aren't so distracted. Then you have a chance to experience true joy.

Miffed;-)

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 14:12 | Link to Comment Room 101
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I look at it differently.  Once you recognize that you and your family are chattel and that there is nothing that you can do about it, it's actually rather liberating.  And then you can look around and breathe a sigh of relief.  These are the good times.  While our betters certainly won't be accused of having any great love for us, we're at least not facing starvation or torture for someone's amusement. Other people in history have not been so fortunate.      

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 15:52 | Link to Comment RealeyesRealize
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WELL SAID.  VERY true..  atleast to me also.. take care

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 18:18 | Link to Comment Georgiabelle
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It can be disheartening, even depressing, to know how little we, as individuals, can do to change what we see happening to this country. It's easy to become overwhelmed with feelings of hopelessness, helplessness, bitterness and rage. I have found it helpful to consciously live in what I see as my parallel realities: while staying hyper-vigilant to the political, financial and cultural crises we are facing and doing what I can to prepare for potential calamities, I have also created a separate, "normal" life revolving around my family, friends and community, and am working to fill that life with as much joy as I can find. I find that being successful in my normal life replenishes the sense of empowerment, of agency, that living in America 2013 drains from me daily. I have learned that there is really only one main rule to follow to work toward a happier "normal life", the Golden Rule: Do unto to others as you would have them do unto you. Oh, and possibly this corollary rule: the best way to have a friend is to be a friend. I am an atheist, and I have searched long and hard to find a way to a meaningful life sans the religious hocus pocus and leaps of faith my brain just won't let me make. I've come to the conclusion that life is about our relationships with the others sharing our journey, and yes, they have been the source of both my life's deepest pain and greatest joy. But it sure beats living all up in my head, or going through the motions with the mute button on. I hope you can find a way to joy too. 

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:09 | Link to Comment IPA
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Ominous article, some older lady jumped off her balcony of my apartment complex last night. She couldn't quite soar steadily higher like the markets.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:12 | Link to Comment SilverIsKing
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If she was older than 64, she doesn't count.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 12:34 | Link to Comment TBT or not TBT
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If she had been in the labor market but unemployed, then she contributed positively to the glorious NFP print we just had.   Just doing her part.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:16 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Sad.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:55 | Link to Comment 13thWarrior
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Escort prices, hookers quality.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:24 | Link to Comment max2205
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All short sellers?

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:55 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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Seriously, what the fuck is happening to this country? Feels like it's ready to pop.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:00 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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According to this article my guess is financial repression is alive and well. No need for that SHTF reset moment when you can somehow manage to get people to voluntarily remove themselves from the planet little by little.

Think about it. When Lawsofphysics says "roll the guillotines" he apparently was not clear about whose heads should go in them.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:04 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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So the only ones left will be the sheep who enjoy their servitude and those of us who are "crazy enough" not to off ourselves. That's a comforting thought.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:14 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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Nah. Hang in there man. No sarcasm here....the higher they push these markets the more it exposes the fraud. More and more people are beginning to see this for what it is. It's pretty much out in plain sight.

I truly feel for anyone who has completely given up. I really do. No one should. You get one shot at this and since there is a damn good possibility that there is not much after it, you should stick around, if only to rail against this mess as long as you can. But don't let it consume and overwhelm you. Most importantly don't listen to white night and short treasuries.

 

 

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:16 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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I intend to hang around till I'm a crazy old man yelling at clouds, but I may be slightly more inebriated than I'd originally planned.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:22 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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Just keep an eye on those fuckin clouds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbwZKoGralg

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:29 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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Hard to adjust when everything you were taught as a kid is being unwound right in front of your eyes, isn't it?  Being taught that doing those things and acting certain ways with vigilance will work out for you in the longer run, even as others occasionally zoom by chasing a stupid fad, only to crash and burn shortly thereafter.  And yet that long term payoff never seems to come.  It only makes you feel more isolated as everyone you know either goes off chasing phatoms or just checks out of the whole process and crawls into denial or a whiskey bottle. 

Makes one feel old and useless before one's time.  I feel it too and I'm only in my 40s.

It ain't just you, man.  It's fucked up. 

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:52 | Link to Comment BandGap
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Taught? You mean DRILLED. It is less difficult these days, however, as I see that I am NOT ALONE. If the only thing that keeps me sane is that others are seeing the same thing happen in theit lives it is enoguh to get me through.

Stay together.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 12:43 | Link to Comment TBT or not TBT
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Nah, we had just observed busy people, industrious people, prudent people doing well.  We learned by watching actual real life examples of this.   Now the barriers to having any return for your industriousness or prudence are very high indeed, and we see people and organisations doing well with paper games, like the subprime flippers, the hedgers, the moochers, and even iconic brands.   Savers look like fools with ther .1% interest rate.   Thanks you Fed!   Thank you TBTFs!     Thank you bought and paid for demagogue politicians(Obama)!    Look, even, at all the games Apple played along the way to get its stock prices up and pay its people and bills pretty nefariously with stock, right up to the current shenanigans where a company with giant cash stockpiles is selling bonds to get more cash to use to buy back its own stock.   It is WTF all over the place.    Prudence now is buying inanimate, non-perishable metals that PRODUCE NOTHING.   It is the full retard opposite of the values we learned by watching hard-working successful people around us as children growing up.   The absolute opposite.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:38 | Link to Comment Agent P
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I'm sticking to the game plan I came up with when I was 19...at the age of 85 I will simultaneously be shot dead by no less than three young jealous husbands.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:41 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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Now that is a fucking great plan.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:49 | Link to Comment Lebensphilosoph
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What? They're legalising homosexual marriage AND polyandry?

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:13 | Link to Comment Gringo Viejo
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@ Mcmo

Agree. It's getting very fuckin' edgy.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 13:28 | Link to Comment Room 101
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Seriously?  Nothing that hasn't been in the cards for awhile.  That you or I don't happen to like it is simply irrelevant. 

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:56 | Link to Comment BraveSirRobin
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We must fix this - Quick, ban something and raise taxes!

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:05 | Link to Comment Urban Redneck
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Don't worry the anti-gun nutcases in the US will inevitably follow the lead of the anti-gun nutcases in Switzerland to use suicide as a justification for more gun control.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 12:46 | Link to Comment TBT or not TBT
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The Dems will lay off of such messages if they think those are mostly Republican voters, or non-voters, or otherwise are unsympathetic characters.   The Children(Copywright Demagogic Party) are far, far more exploitable than depressed people with wrinkles or Marla Singer-like levels of multi-nevrosis.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:00 | Link to Comment duo
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I think theres a billing code in Obamacare for suicide.  Soon it will be available without a prescription.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:16 | Link to Comment web bot
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Well they have one now for 14 year old girls to commit abortion with the morning after pill. #ucking insanity...

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 15:54 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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yeah, the culture definitely needs more 14yr old mothers. . . wonder who's the daddy here, besides the State. . .

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 12:47 | Link to Comment TBT or not TBT
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Easy doctor approval for likely Republican voters.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:25 | Link to Comment Georgiabelle
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I'm sure The Administration sees this trend as a positive thing. Middle-aged whites are generally not part of their voter base and if enough of them commit suicide think of the Social Security and Obamacare savings!

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:27 | Link to Comment Yohimbo
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One hopes that Ben, Barry and Joe will be suicided. 

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:40 | Link to Comment bmoreland
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I suspect the never ending wars play a big part in this. 

It would be interesting to see the stats broken down by civilians v. enlisted.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 12:11 | Link to Comment H E D G E H O G
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IMHO, these increased rates of suiside are in a direct relationship with the repressive monetary wars the us government is waging on ALL americans with negative interest rates, especially for millions of elderly citizens surviving day to day, week to week, etc. The folks that worked hard all their life and saved just enough and hoped of keeping ahead of the real inflation rates with interest on said savings. THEY, as in your political representatives, government bureaucrats, and government agencies, care not, as long as they can suck the blood and life out of anything breathing. ROME IS BURNING folks, we here know it and see it plainly. Yeah, hows all that "hope and change workin for us? FUCK YOU HUSSEIN OBAMA!

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 13:33 | Link to Comment Room 101
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That's nice.  For the sake of discussion, let's assume that all that you have said is true.  So what?  How does this matter worth a fart in a windstorm?

This assumption that TPTB give even a mild shit what any of us think is very sweet.  Naive and stupid, but very sweet. 

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 17:37 | Link to Comment Treason Season
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"...all Americans..."? Try all humanity! This funny money printing is effecting the all friggin world with price inflation another form of genocide. Call it Benocide!

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:50 | Link to Comment cifo
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Sad.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:51 | Link to Comment pods
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Are they counting double headshots as suicides still?  

pods

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:04 | Link to Comment Rainman
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No...that's why Black suicide rates are lowest on the board .

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:10 | Link to Comment camaro68ss
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No, counting mostly the ones where they shot themself in the back of the head. Cops rule it suicide

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:51 | Link to Comment jayman21
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But the stock market is at all time highs.  How could this be?

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:51 | Link to Comment Xue
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must be the wealth effect..

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:51 | Link to Comment GraveyardSpiral
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They should outlaw suicide along with 16oz sodas! We'd all be healthier for it.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:02 | Link to Comment midtowng
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Suicides are already against the law. Funny how the law isn't very effective.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:42 | Link to Comment GOLDTRADERRR
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How will they prosecute someone who commits suicide?

Refuse to bury you?

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:51 | Link to Comment LFMayor
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We'll just hang your ass one more time, that's all.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 12:51 | Link to Comment shovelhead
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Like school...

It goes on your permanent record.

Kinda like Catholic Hell for non-Catholics.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 12:51 | Link to Comment TBT or not TBT
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Let's see, the government is broke, and you may want to pass your assets to your loved ones.   The government's solution will be to take your assets in, as is its wont.    As a suicide preventative measure, of course, alongside taking your guns if anyone ever reports you feeling a little blue one day.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 15:57 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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I'm sure you won't be *shocked* to realise it's mostly for insurance/benefits dodgeball game. . .

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:51 | Link to Comment vmromk
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Stop raining on the Bernank's parade......he's busy passing out Dow 15,000 hats.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:52 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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This is bullish because it partially explains the decline in labor participation rate decline. Also that is a lot less people dependent on government benefits. Also no need for war if we all just off ourselves.

So many positive ways to spin this....

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:54 | Link to Comment kito
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after todays report, im afraid many zhers might be added to that list........................

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:56 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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Yes apparently the take their ball and go home crowd had instead shorted their balls and lost them.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:57 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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I think many of us are just gonna drop out, or "fade into bolivian," as Mike Tyson put it.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:01 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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I always thought people would go out swinging.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:07 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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Unfortunately, there are many ways to interpret the word "swinging."

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:12 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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I have decided that you absolutely can one up me any day in a dark sarcastic humor contest.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 13:34 | Link to Comment Room 101
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You thought wrong. 

"If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." 

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:04 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Nope ..I just shrug it off to nothing surprises me any longer.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:18 | Link to Comment kito
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Including a full recovery in the economy????

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:22 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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LOL

Just keep looking at the dead people....

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 14:14 | Link to Comment Room 101
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Has the chocolate ration been increased?  Oh happiness!

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:52 | Link to Comment Poetic injustice
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My backup pension plan is to go to Scandinavia and do some averagely heavy crime, wait to get caught.

Their prisons are better than most living conditions, you can finish university in prison and receive good salary if you work a little. And it qualifies for pension too.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 12:55 | Link to Comment Loose Caboose
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I know you're not serious, but loss of personal liberty - the freedom to come and go as you please, would soon make even that kind of situation a living hell, IMHO.  The ability to make my own decisions, in my own time, on my terms is my idea of a life worth living.

I could not endure a life where I am taken care of either by another person or an institution.  Personal autonomy is my measuring stick for quality of life.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:53 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Hmmm no rise in the welfare crowd...I wonder why that might be.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:01 | Link to Comment HelluvaEngineer
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'cause they shoot each other instead

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:18 | Link to Comment derek_vineyard
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this is a great time to be rich or poor

everything in between is vulnerable

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:48 | Link to Comment Agent P
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It's never a great time to be poor, but this is certainly a better time than most.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 17:27 | Link to Comment General Decline
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It's always a great time to be poor "on paper"

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:29 | Link to Comment bmoreland
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Given the dates, I suspect the never ending wars play a huge factor in these statistics. It would be interesting to see the numbers for "civilians" and those for "enlisted".

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:53 | Link to Comment orangegeek
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Obama's hopey changey plan is really coming together.

 

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:58 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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"The suicide rate among middle-aged Americans climbed a startling 28% in the last decade"

 

If you are dumb enough to place the blame on one particular political party, then you are too stupid to realize that both sides are fucking over the same people.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:51 | Link to Comment Buckaroo Banzai
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Well, there are two political parties: the Secret Libtards, and the Ultra Libtards. So it's certainly understandable why people would be inclined to blame the Ultra Libtards, because (a) they are out in the open with their Libtard-ness, and (b) they are super-extra Libtarded.

So, they justly deserve more of the blame.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:53 | Link to Comment Jayda1850
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Please folks, if you're gonna do it please take some of these scum with, like anyone at 33 liberty st. Your actions can save the lives of millions who will suffer because of their policies.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:01 | Link to Comment edifice
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They replicate, like virii; they'll move in more, the next day, to replace those you took with you.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:06 | Link to Comment Hongcha
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Yes, Andrew Vachss once said knocking off these vermin is like punching a pillow - it just comes bouncing right back. 

That fact didn't stop the characters in his books, though.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:54 | Link to Comment Sweet Pea
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Do we know how many of these people were on psychotropic drugs when they did themselves in? Teh boomers really believe in that shit.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:14 | Link to Comment Bastiat
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The question is good but the generalization is crap.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 13:23 | Link to Comment Dyhana
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Agree Bastiat, a crap generalization. I am a boomer and do not believe in taking poison pharmaceuticals, nor do any of my family, friends and acquaintances, neither have any of us given them to our children. Maybe we're in the minority, don't know the statistics.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 13:41 | Link to Comment Jena
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I hope like hell that they were.  For people with profound depression the psychotropic drugs tend to be very helpful.  And those who are serious about suicide are profoundly depressed. 

Should so many be on them?  Nah.  Should kids be on psychotropic drugs from such a young age?  Of course not.  But people who tell you they are thinking of suicide as a solution to their problems?  Yes.  Those people are in a horrible, dark place and they need some help. 

 

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 14:16 | Link to Comment noless
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Many anti depressants increase the risk of suicide... Anti depressants are for mild to moderate depression, if you are suicidal you should not take them...

 

A better option would be a group exstacy session with experienced handlers... But i think that's illegal again, not sure.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 14:35 | Link to Comment Jena
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That's true.  In the first short period of time after starting treatment.  That's because a severely depressed person often doesn't have the energy to act on suicidal ideation and the antidepressant gives them the energy to do so.  That's why they ought to be prescribed carefully and by a doctor who is qualified to do so.  After that initial period, the risk of suicide due to that particular cause dissipates.  You can read about it at any site that provides drug information.  I like rxlist.com

I think mild depression is different thing entirely that ought to be explored with diet and exercise but that's my opinion.  So many people go right to drugs without making any changes in their lives that are causing the depression in the first place.

 

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 12:59 | Link to Comment Loose Caboose
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Boomer here - do not believe in them.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:55 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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I guess the bernanke can trot this out as another statistic that shows how well QE is working.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:55 | Link to Comment Kaiser Sousa
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funny...no mention of this on CNBS, Fox Biz, BloomBitch, or the rest of the fucking propaganda hubs know as LameStream Media....

Dow 15,000 - what a fucking joke.........

 

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 11:19 | Link to Comment Freddie
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F TV and Hollywood.  All they do is lie. All of them.  People who watch their shit enable The Matrix.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 12:00 | Link to Comment General Decline
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Although I do agree with your message on TV and Hollywood, Freddie, you should really set this message up to auto post on every Zerohedge thread that Tyler throws up here. Can you imagine the time you would free up? You could probably have enough spare time to get some kind of online degree or volunteer at a soup kitchen. Just something to think about, bro.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 13:20 | Link to Comment shovelhead
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Too subtle for Freddie.

Your're talking to a guy who references a Hollywood movie he thinks is real to rail against Hollywood.

Apparently they DO control his mind, I guess.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 16:26 | Link to Comment Freddie
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"I never liked dat guy (shovelhead)"

Tony Montana in Scarface

No Hollywood has gotten exponentially worse over the past 10 + years. 

Project Mockingbird started during JFK. JFK was screwing the wife of the guy who ran it.  She got whacked shortly after JFK.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:57 | Link to Comment Heiman Van Rock...
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The Whistle Blower factor

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:59 | Link to Comment Edward Fiatski
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Is hanging that effective that the average Joe can execute it successfully?

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