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Powerful Explosions Shake Damascus As Israel Attacks Syria For Second Time In Past Week

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Citizens in Syria's capital woke up early on Sunday to a series of powerful explosions shaking the outskirts of Damascus, sending massive fireballs into the night sky. Preliminary reports that this was an Israeli attack were subsequently confirmed by NBC citing a senior US official who said Israeli jets had bombed a military research center near of Damascus. This would be the second Israeli attack on Syrian territory in the past week, following US media reports that Israel targeted a weapons shipment to the militant group Hezbollah in neighboring Lebanon overnight Thursday to Friday, although the Jewish state has refused to confirm or deny the bombing. As RT further reports, during the attack, one Israeli jet was reportedly shot down by Syria's Air Force, according to Hezbollah's Manar TV channel, citing security sources in Damascus. This has yet to be confirmed through official channels although if accurate one expects Syrian media to promptly confirm with video evidence.

Video coverage of tonight's bombing has already appeared on Youtube:

More from RT:

Israel declined to comment on the attack, but the blasts occurred a day after an Israeli official said his country had carried out an air strike targeting a consignment of missiles in Syria intended for the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah.

 

One of the sites hit on Sunday, the Jamraya military research centre, was also targeted by Israel in January.

 

"The new Israeli attack is an attempt to raise the morale of the terrorist groups which have been reeling from strikes by our noble army," Syrian television said, referring to recent offensives by President Bashar al-Assad's forces against rebels.

 

The British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights quoted eyewitnesses in the area as saying they saw jets in the sky at the time of the explosions.

 

It said the blasts hit Jamraya as well as a nearby ammunition depot. Other activists said a missile brigade and two Republican Guard battalions may also have been targeted in the heavily militarised area just north of Damascus.

According to AFP, the previous attack destroyed surface-to-air missiles recently delivered by Russia that were being stored at Damascus airport, and would be delivered to Hezbollah in Lebanon. Stratfor adds the following perspective:

Israeli officials have privately stressed that Israel maintains its own specific redlines in the Syrian conflict and that despite U.S. President Barack Obama's reported stance, the use of chemical weapons against rebels is not one of them. Specifically, Israeli officials have stressed that they will not tolerate transfers of chemical weapons, ballistic missiles, advanced air-defense systems or sophisticated anti-ship missiles to Hezbollah -- or jihadist seizures of such weapons.

 

Over the past months, the Syrian regime has also effectively withdrawn its forces from the Golan Heights in order to use them against the rebel threat encroaching on Damascus. This has heightened Israeli concern that jihadists will take advantage of the security vacuum in the Golan Heights to begin staging attacks against Israeli units in the area. Israel has said such action will not be tolerated.

 

Countries near Syria are already feeling the effects of the war. A massive influx of refugees is adding further stress to the already unstable economies of Lebanon and Jordan, and earlier this week a Turkish guard was killed in a border dispute with armed Syrians. Iraq is seeing increased jihadist activity linked to the Syrian conflict. As the conflict in Syria continues to rage, the spillover effects from the civil war will continue to manifest themselves.

It was not immediately known what the "defensive" purpose of tonight's offensive was, which supposedly targeted a military research base, nor was it clear if Syria will ultimately declare a state of war with Israel following the past week's dramatic escalation in hostilities.

Most importantly, it is not known if following last week's provocative language out of the White House if this is precisely the event sought by the Obama administration to finally give the green light to a joint military operation targeting Syria.

The last question is how Russia responds, whether it remains neutral, or comes to the support of president Assad and defends its military naval assets on the Syrian coast.

While speculation a US-led escalation is ripe, the lack of any US naval support (as shown by Stratfor's naval update map from May 2) off the coast of Syria likely makes any immediate war is hardly likely, or that Israel will be on its own for at least the foreseeable future.

 

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Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:29 | 3532365 giddy
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...ummmm...AKs=DNA cousins to Turks, Armenians, Gypsies... gypsies are NOT intellectuals...cunning...thieving... there's a reason Jonas Salk didn't copyright the vaccine...vaccine was "discovered" by Weller...nah...they are TRIBAL f u ks...

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:43 | 3531196 kito
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perhaps many were "chosen" for mediocrity in life......just regular joes.......or josephs i should say.............who work, pay the mortgage, get the same shitty .000002 percent return on their money market account while trying to do the prudent thing and save for the future...............otto......your overt hatred for an entire group of people, most of which arent involved in the takeover of the world.....is a tad misguided.....and sad......especially if you do follow the word of Jesus Christ and his teachings......................

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:54 | 3531207 otto skorzeny
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you must be a real mutt to be on the outside looking in of the Chosen Few and their 1.7% of the US population that controls 40%+ of it's wealth.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:06 | 3531241 kito
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your stat is laughable....kindly link me to those numbers......and if im the mutt, but still jewish...do you hate me??????

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:29 | 3531309 giddy
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...ummmm...preposterious to claim christians hate judaism...but AKs do hate christians...

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 09:50 | 3531369 francis_sawyer
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Who cried when Ol Yeller died?

~~~

kito ~ for you... [let the laughing begin ~ you must be a real dumb MF'er not to catch a ride on this gravy train]

JEWISH POPULATION IN AMERICA [Note: I especially love how the 'spikes' in population are centered in DC & NY ~ for NO PARTICULAR REASON, of course]

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/usjewpop.html

 

...and here are the WEALTH numbers [that shit is easy to find ~ they BRAG about it to no end... Of course, we all know that NONE of it was achieved by nepotism, or by banks printing money out of thin air & handing out priviledged loans... Instead ~ all by random chance]... The way it works is this... If you're a jew with a good idea, you get bankrolled & even given a lifeline if you fail... If you're goy with a good idea, quickly, a 'competitor' emerges, you get your finances stressed, then jew bankers & lawyers descend on the carcass of your good idea & make it their own... Your only chance to become a Titan of Industry is if you corner the fucking market in pork rinds [whereby you'll only have Bloomberg on your jock] ...

http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TCEL6H6L79C279EVA

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 01:15 | 3531381 The Abstraction...
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I don't see many Jews calling out the racism and supremacism of their clan leaders. First to point out such in other races, but not their own. Well there is a price to be paid for duplicity.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 09:53 | 3531839 tmosley
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There are plenty of them, you just don't hear them because that isn't the message the MSM wants you to hear, and you don't live in Israel, or know anyone who does, so you don't really know what you are talking about, and as a result, you simply assume a monolithic conspiracy and that "they" are all at fault.

Such thinking is natural, wrong, evil and often genocidal.  Happens all the time though.  The Creator was cruel when he made our minds the way he did.

Better to rise above collectivism in general, I find.  Blame the people responsible, no matter what their background or religion.  If we are going to have a Holocaust, let it be against those who CHOSE to be bankers, and those who CHOSE to be politicians.

 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 10:49 | 3531937 francis_sawyer
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I've got news for you [& I've said this before]... If there actually is a holocaust against bankers, then jews, by disproportionate representation, are going to go down mighty big... That's just the math... & when that goes, then so will, mostly, political architectures, media control mechanisms, & even the rule of law [as if that actually exists]...

~~~

So now it is easier to understand WHY the 'holocaust against bankers' will be postponed for as long as possible...

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 01:48 | 3531427 JOYFUL
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Well kito... I guess the stat is both laughable... and unreachable...of the moment. Just went to my favorite reservoir for quickfacts of the kind you requested... what adl calls Online Anti-Semitism's New Intellectual Voice... and COULD NOT BRING IT UP ...even with proxies and all my usual workarounds....due to sionist internet muzzling of every voice of dissent to the talmudist terror takeover. Happens quite a bit now with a lot of my favorite sites... even S|D and KWN are increasingly suffering dos attacks! White Stackers of Merika... you are under attack! For being 'domestic terrorists...

btw... Kito-nobody 'hates' jews for being jewish... we simply object to some split off tribe of benjamites (who even the real "Israelites" moved away from in disgust) foisting their babylonian moloch-worshippin and racial supremacist cult onto the rest of us... including... the real "jews" !!!

http://www.nkusa.org/AboutUs/Zionism/judaism_isnot_zionism.cfm

 

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:32 | 3531139 Kirk2NCC1701
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I'll take him more seriously when he takes on a 'country', not take out big game or have his FSB snuff dissenters or critics.  If his military was really helping Assad, they'd have taken out the Israeli planes.  As it is, they either can't or won't.  Either way...  he's in Obama's back pocket.  Assad is toast and..

He'll do fuck all!  Again.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:11 | 3531073 TheMeatTrapper
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This video was uploaded about two hours ago. No blood, no bullet holes, no visible wounds. Looks like chemicals to me. 

 

http://youtu.be/zqbMPmxa28U

 

Twitter is humming with reports of Damascus residents reporting "fumes".

 

 

 

 

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:13 | 3531090 Rusty Shorts
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lmao, you're funny

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:26 | 3531300 TheMeatTrapper
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lmao, you're funny

 

Why?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:27 | 3531305 Rusty Shorts
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obviously a staged video

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:36 | 3531321 TheMeatTrapper
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Yes, "obviously".  

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:38 | 3531322 Rusty Shorts
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"staged video" is the keyword there big guy

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:43 | 3531332 TheMeatTrapper
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You can call me "big guy" all you wish, if that makes you feel good.

Why do you think the video is staged? Since it was not posted widely in an English format, and there was no claim as to what happened and who did it, who staged it and why?

I am open to the possibility - I'm just asking why you think it is staged?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:51 | 3531344 Rusty Shorts
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Thanks big guy, my ability to cipher bullshit is "top secret", property so to speak...

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:56 | 3531351 TheMeatTrapper
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Top secret? 

lol

Alrighty then. Have a good evening sir. 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:56 | 3531353 Rusty Shorts
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Cheers!!

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 17:59 | 3532782 New_Meat
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Sarin is odourless.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:18 | 3531075 lolmao500
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A few news...

- An official presidential motorcade is now travelling from Damascus on the Damascus-Homs motorway, with all the roadside lights off
- #SYRIA #Damascus: Strange odors throughout the capital city are causing runny eyes and coughing
- Members of Assad's inner circle fleeing to Beirut with the lights of #Damascus-Beirut road power off completely, activists say #Israel
- According to Syrian activists, the Israeli Airstrike targeted the following locations:
- 105th Brigade (Republican Guard)
- 104th Brigade
- Missile Brigade (Qasioun Mount)
- Arms Depot (Qasioun Mount)
- Jamraya Scientific Research Centre
- Defense Factories near the town of Hameh.
- One location near the premises of the Fourth Division in Qudsaya.
- Arms Depot for the Fourth Division in Qudasya.
- Scud Missile base between the towns of Ma’arbeh and al-Tal.

- Radio_FreeSyria unconfirmed reports Assad ordered forces to mobilise in Golan Hts-set to declare war on Israel
- According to an Israeli channel, Israel has officially cancelled all schools/day jobs tomorrow in case #Syria decides to attack Tel Aviv.
- @AlArab_Qatar Israeli channel ten confirms that 12 raids took place in #Syria #damascus and its suburbs

- Israel's Channel 10 is reporting a loss of contact with two Israeli warplanes over Syria #damascus

- Interfax news agency: Russian naval ships move at this time of the Black Sea in the direction of the Syrian port of Tartus

BTW... Russia already got 6 WARSHIPS off Syria/Israel... and 6 more are coming.

http://en.rian.ru/world/20130501/180939020/In-a-First-a-Russian-Warship-...

Russia currently has six ships in the Mediterranean, including the Azov, which made frequent trips to the region before, calling at the Russian resupply base in the Syrian city of Tartus.

Another six ships of the Pacific Fleet are on the way to the Mediterranean and expected to join the task force later this month.

Can you say WW3???

The ONLY ones at this point who can stop this madness from going full on chemical war/total war between Iran/Lebanon/Syria perhaps even Egypt vs Israel is Russia...

Remember that in 73, when Israel was nearly overwhelmed, they deployed their nukes for use... then the war turned around...  if anyone launches anything chemical or biological at Israel, Israel is gonna nuke someone.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:19 | 3531099 jonjon831983
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Stir the hornets nest to see what comes out.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:59 | 3531105 lolmao500
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More news :

: We will choose the right time and the right place to respond to the Israeli attacks - Governor Ahmed Mohammed to Sama TV

Weak ass bitches...

#Syrian state TV says #Israel launched 12 missiles from #Lebanese airspace targeting an ammunition depot outside #Damascus

Apparently from tweets, Israel is doing bombing runs on Damascus again...

An important question that could be a game changer... what will EGYPT DO??

BTW, Nasrallah, Hezbollah's chief, is in Iran right now...

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:23 | 3531117 RebelDevil
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From the info you provided, Isreal just declared de facto war on Syria.
Ladies and Gentlemen, you have just witnessed Syria's "Perl Harbor" moment.
Let the shit storm of war begin!

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:24 | 3531122 lolmao500
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But but but! They were getting ready to attack us!!

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:25 | 3531128 RebelDevil
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*Israel

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 06:38 | 3531621 jonjon831983
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Actually, the funny thing is this is apparently the second major explicit attack within the week...

They're "proactively" trying to stop weapons buildups on multiple fronts.  If recall the much celebrated Iron Dome "weapons test" late last year (I forgot what triggered it), Israel ended up bombing weapon caches inside Gaza.

 

Iron Dome now deploying into Northern Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-deploys-iron-dome-missile-defenses-in-the-north/

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:24 | 3531123 nmewn
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Nice grab.

The 105th Brigade is the "Praetorian Guard" of the elite inside the capitol.

Buh bye Assad.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:34 | 3531163 lolmao500
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Yeah I think this was the final blow to Assad's regime... or unintended consequences will happen... and the rebels will ally with Assad against Israel...

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:43 | 3531195 The Shootist
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And how many Iranian revolutionary guard??

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:46 | 3531203 nmewn
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Once its over, they will be allied against Israel, again.

Same as it ever was...not getting real worked up over it here.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:23 | 3531295 palmereldritch
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  and the rebels will ally with Assad against Israel...

The rebels are al Qaeda... i.e. CIA/Mossad/Saudi Intel/Bankster City of London bought and paid for...they ain't goin' anywhere their paycheck doesn't direct them...which direction would that be?

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:11 | 3531083 jonjon831983
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Nowadays there is no such thing as war... just "incursions" and "defensive pre-emptive actions" etc etc etc.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:20 | 3531106 forwardho
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Yes, far better terminology than a simple "police action" or better yet "involved in an advisory capacity"

Remember, If one cannot dazzle them with brilliance...

Baffle them with bull shit.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:13 | 3531084 valkir
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Israhell want to be wiped from the Planed Earth.Bad thing is,that the rest of the world will go with them.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:14 | 3531091 Debt Slave
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Interesting how the zionist media keeps telling us about threats from Syria and Iran when they haven't attacked anyone, yet Israel has been attacking it's neighbors for years with little or no provocation.

When WWIII begins, you'll know who started it. The same people who started the two before it.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:21 | 3531109 Brian
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No Provocation???

Don't count me as a defender of Israel in general, but let's be fair.  They are hit by missile strikes all the time from Hezbollah which is armed by Syria and Iran.  This is pretty much not deniable by any person who isn't intentionally trying to ignore reality.

Just because they are attacked by "proxies" doesn't mean they aren't being provoked.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:22 | 3531112 lolmao500
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All the time? Lulz. Last time Hezbollah launched anything at Israel was in 2006! SEVEN FUCKING YEARS AGO.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:24 | 3531125 Debt Slave
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And that was after the IDF invaded Lebanon.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:55 | 3531347 Id fight Gandhi
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History time. Go back and read about the Irgun who became the IDF.

Look what they did to the King David hotel in 1946.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 01:13 | 3531377 The Abstraction...
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Gandhi said,

"My sympathy does not blind me to the requirements of justice. The cry for the national home for the Jews does not make much appeal to me. The sanction for it is sought in the Bible and in the tenacity with which the Jews have hankered after their return to Palestine. Why should they not, like other peoples of the earth, make that country their home where they are born and where they earn their livelihood?" 

Whoops, he forgot to mention the Palestinians were already there!

You'd have every right to have fought Gandhi.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:15 | 3532194 thisandthat
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That's like saying the Nazis were in the right to "defend" themselves from Warsaw ghetto jews when attacked by them... Gaza Palestinians are the Palestinians who got deported from Palestine by the occupying Zionists in their goal to "ethnically cleanse" (religious, actually) Palestine of non-jews.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:21 | 3531110 lolmao500
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Israel and the US DID start this whole shit... First with Bernanke and his QE, creating revolt... then NATO arming extremists to the teeth... and now this.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:31 | 3531146 nmewn
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Now hold on...the shabiha are not "extremist" by murdering people at leisure?

They are Assads little hitmen. In a writhing den of snakes, it starts getting kinda hard to tell the head from the tail.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:42 | 3531188 New_Meat
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500, nyet, tovarich. this shit has been going on since long before Ben Shalom was a gleem in his daddy's eyes.  And don't say NATO, although, it is becoming much more clear, you do get to say "Hillary".  Even if she and the one were, as they say "leading from behind"

- Ned

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:22 | 3531115 besnook
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what amazes me are the number of people who keep defending israel as it sucker punches other people while claining they hit her first.

 

as the french ambassador said, "....that shitty little country."

i really hope obama follows the advice of patraeus and dempsey and lets israel hang out to dry on this one. that would call for a bottle of glenlivet.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:52 | 3531215 New_Meat
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snook, be so kind as to count the number of rockets crossing the Isreali border.  Please count both ways.  Then, do a chart, kinda' "Advance/Decline" line if you will.  Could do it in VWAP terms, using Tonnage and distance.

I am highly amused to have anyone take the advice of anything or anyone French.  I gave u a reddie on that comment alone.

O following pretty-boy Petraeus (I note with more amusement that u can't spell his name) or REMF Dempsey?  Someone will pull the puppet strings.

Yep, blended Scotch and pussy generals.  Got it.

- Ned

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:09 | 3531252 nmewn
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Ok, so here's my arm chair general take.

Eliminate/neutralize Assad forcing him toward Lebanon (air supremacy, can't get out) by road. Hem him up there with the Hezboh's now cutoff from re-supply overland through Syria and turn attention toward the real threat...southward.

His regimes complicit assasination of Lebanese leaders there is not forgotten so he can't tarry too long, maybe a "wounded warrior escort" care of Spetsnaz takes him north but no matter to the interested party.

Close? ;-)

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 01:44 | 3531421 palmereldritch
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  His regimes complicit assasination of Lebanese leaders

Have you looked at all possibilities?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-hariri-assassination-israel-s-fingerpri...

In the Middle East , the link between political machinations, espionage and assassination is either clear as day, or clear as mud.

As for the yet unsolved case of the February 2005 murder of Lebanese Prime Minister Rafiq Hariri, the underpinnings of this covert operation including the role of Israel have now surfaced.

A crackdown on Israeli spy rings operating in Lebanon has resulted in more than 70 arrests over the past 18 months. Included among them are four high-ranking Lebanese Army and General Security officers—one having spied for the Mossad since 1984.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 01:49 | 3531429 Buckaroo Banzai
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I don't know how anyone can even pretend to try to make sense of what's happening in that part of the world. It's complete and utter chaos.

It's almost as if some unseen outside force is working all sides against the middle to create the most confusion possible... And has been doing so since 1917....hmmmm.

ORDO AB CHAO????

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 02:25 | 3531466 palmereldritch
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One of their greatest moments of Ordo had to have been the Great War (...to End All Wars...an inside joke if ever there was one) but principally its  pause and cessation on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month...

Well, you can do the math

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:19 | 3531286 besnook
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another one equating symbolic bottle rockets to a real military with ss intent reveals the small peckeredness of your being.

that is all you have? a miss spelling? a diss of usa military intel? and of your french allies? and an affinity for the bottom shelf scotch?

you misunderestimate the usa military. just as in vietnam and korea, they know when to pull the plug on a bad op.

hubris runs out. that's why livermore never sold at the top. that's why israel will race to the bottom, hopefully, with a little help from some real friends.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 08:57 | 3531746 New_Meat
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snookiee, thin skin?  or is it just that time of the month?  Or is it blended scotch that gets u so bitchy?

I comment on inability to spell because, well, if u can't spell David Perfect's actual name, how much of the rest of your comment is worth anything?  As I said, "amused".

Ever yours,

- Ned

 

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:34 | 3531159 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Muslims good- everyone else bad. Go fuck yourself Allah.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:09 | 3531251 john39
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Allah is simply the arabic word for God.  Same God the father that Jesus prayed to...   most americans are so ignorant they don't realize this... or did mean to come up in support of the satanic talmudic bankers? 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 01:57 | 3531437 Buckaroo Banzai
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Unfortunately, YOU are the one who is ignorant. Stop believing the shit you've learned from the New York Times about Islam. Allah is Satan, and the Muslim "faith" is all about dominating, or preferably, killing, anyone who will not bow down to Allah. Don't believe me? Read it for yourself, it's all written down in black and white in the Koran.

That is just about exactly 100% the opposite message from the New Testament. Don't you dare compare my God to that filthy abomination of a deity.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 02:16 | 3531459 RebelDevil
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There is no difference betweent the god of Abraham and "Allah". Go do your homework man.
Judaism, Christanity, and Islam are all types of Abrahamism.

It's either you hate this god, and be an atheist or gnostic.
OR
You believe in one of the three sects that worships this god.

Take your pick.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 08:28 | 3531713 GuyJeans
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Like BB said, go read a book yourself, you obviously dont know the diff between the God of Judaism, Christianity and the god of the quran.  They are not the same.  Though muslims make the claim does not make it so.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:23 | 3532218 thisandthat
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God of Judaism, Christianity

It obviously seems hardly the same, since the first is pretty much the evil nemesis of the second, which in itself doesn't mean it's the Muslim's fault...

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:22 | 3532343 FeralSerf
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Muslims claim there is no difference between the "God of Judaism, Christianity and the god of the quran".

 

"3. Islam means peace. It also means surrendering one's will to God. This means the belief that only God can benefit you or can cause you harm. Islam is the religion that God taught to humans on this planet through the senior angel, Jibril (Gabriel). It was revealed to humanity in different stages when people needed guidance. Thus, the message of Islam was taught through Adam, Noah, Ibrahim (Abraham), Abraham's descendants (Ismael, Isaac, and Jacob), Moses, Jesus Christ, and Muhammed, to name the most prominent of the messengers.

Thus, the Old Testament (the Torah) and the New Testament (the Engel) are Books of Islam, too. All messengers of God are considered Muslims, and we don't differentiate among them.

However, the Holy Qur'an, the word of God in Arabic, does not include chapters or sections of the two Books. Rather, it includes the same teachings. It completes them and gives a judgment about points of disagreement between Jews and Christians. An example of that is regarding Jesus Christ. While Jews did not believe in him, Christians believe in him as the Messiah and also the son of God.

The Holy Qur'an has supported Christians in that he was the Messiah but did not support them in their belief that he was the son of God. God, Allah, was not born of anybody, has never given birth to anyone, and there is nothing like Him.

4. There is nothing in the Holy Qur'an about the colors of Adam and Eve. So, this is not an Islamic teaching.

But if you want a scientific explanation about human skin color, it's found in anthropology. Simply, this is a pigmentation the human skin develops in relation to the sun heat and the sun ultra violate rays, which cause cancer. People living on the equator (where the sun is closest to the Earth's surface) have the darkest skin color. As they move to the north and to the south, away from the equator, the need for darker skin becomes less and less, until the skin becomes fairest near the arctic circle.

5. Yes, Islam started in the Middle East, where it was preached by Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammed. The vast majority of Arabs, more than 95 percent, are Muslims. However, the vast majority of Muslims are not Arabs. They constitute more than 1.3 billion people living in all continents but concentrate in Asia and Africa, where God gave them most of the Earth's oil, which is the main target of current wars.

6. Muslims not only respect the Old Testament and the New Testament, they also believe in them. And a person cannot be a Muslim if he or she does not believe in them as the Books of God.

Muslims and non-Muslims do not hate Jews. Actually, followers of the three religions lived together for thousands of years in peace, respect, and mutual recognitions. The exception was the time of the Crusades, which represented European invasions and conquests more than religious wars.

Muslims and Jews lived together for the entire Islamic history, about 14 centuries, in tolerance, peaceful existence, and fruitful cooperation. This was the case in the early Islamic states of Umayyads and Abbasids, as well as during the eight centuries of Arab-Islamic rule of Andalusia, or Arab Spain. Jews lived as citizens of the Islamic states throughout the Middle East, Asia, and Africa, with full respect and in peaceful existence.

The change has happened when European Jews invented Zionism as a colonial and imperialist movement to dispossess the Palestinian people. Then, these Zionists started to influence Jews everywhere to immigrate to Israel to participate in the Zionist project.

Had the Israelis treated Palestinians as citizens, there would be no conflict. Instead, they evicted them from their villages and cities in 1948 and left them for 55 years in refugee camps. Moreover, they occupied the rest of Palestine in 1967 and continued the annexation of more Palestinian land.

The conflict is not religious. It is not about verses in the Holy Qur'an or verses in the Old Testament. Rather, it is about the land of Palestine and the Israeli aggression against Arabs and Muslims."

http://www.aljazeerah.info/Editorials/2004%20editorials/Jan/Six%20Questi...

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:54 | 3532448 Buckaroo Banzai
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Muslim peace: submit, or die.

It's not complicated, and it makes perfect sense. Killing anyone who opposes you is one way of defining the word "peace".

You might feel differently, as you are getting slaughtered in the name of "peace."

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 17:15 | 3532719 FeralSerf
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"Killing anyone that opposes you" -- isn't that what the Israelis and the Americans do? Why have such large militaries if not?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 09:00 | 3531748 New_Meat
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"... most americans are so ignorant they don't realize this..."

and the "Party of God" is Hezb'Allah.

But the NYT Style Guide don't do dat.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 09:56 | 3531844 nmewn
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Someone will be along any minute now to claim (and confirm through links to obscure websites created in downtown Tehran) that the Hezboh's are really fronts for the CIA or Jews or reptilian shape shifters from Mars.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 10:16 | 3531885 New_Meat
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and GW will quote himself as an "authoritative source" ;-)

Verizon is having fun locally with Comcast, doing "First-Party Endorsements" of itself.

- Ned

{and http://howiecarrshow.com/carr-tsarnaevs-tab-just-the-beginning/, to go back to a previous comment}

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:18 | 3531101 besnook
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c'mon assad! take out tel aviv! put the world out of its misery.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:35 | 3531166 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Muslims good- everyone else bad. Go fuck yourself Allah

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:39 | 3531176 besnook
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no, israel is worse than all of them. take out the worst then the rest can be dealt with in time.  israel policy is the greatest recruiter of terrorists against the usa. end israel and the policy is moot.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 01:07 | 3531370 The Abstraction...
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More the case of Israelis having no redeeming features. They sabotage the West's education system, and then brag about their IQ test results.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 01:32 | 3531402 Savyindallas
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Israel is just a military base of the Banksters -where they control their 400 nukes and a place of final refuge if the SHTF and their forces are beaten and on the run  -Netanyahu is a puppet -a figurehead-just like Obama. Very few, if any of the real rulers of the world live in Israel,

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:03 | 3531104 goldstandard
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The US military/industrial /banking complex needed another war and the Presidents proxy fighter was more than happy to throw the first punch. The Rothchilds must be happy as pigs in shit as they sit back and count their war profits.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:27 | 3531134 lolmao500
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For you who know about John Titor...

The Jewish population in Israel is not prepared for a true offensive war. They are prepared for the ultimate defense. Wavering western support for Israel is what gives Israel's neighbors the confidence to attack. The last resort for a defensive Israel and its offensive Arab neighbors is to use weapons of mass destruction. In the grand scheme of things, the war in the Middle East is a part of what's to come, not the cause.

Remember that Titor is from the future... so the MSM would have had time to ``massage`` the truth... to fit this description of poor little Israel being forced to use nukes...

/we'll see

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:42 | 3531190 nmewn
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They don't need to use nukes on a regime tottering on the edge with an insurrection that has over 70.000 killed.

Just a push.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:10 | 3531258 john39
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funny, mccain was saying that two years ago.... fail.  Assad is still standing, forcing is-ra-el to show its hand to try and save its dying terrorist mercenaries in Syria.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:22 | 3531292 nmewn
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You really think Assad can hold his capitol, surrounded by "his people" who despise him?

I don't give a flying fuck what McCain says but Assad has killed, tortured and unleashed his shabiha on them...it not my problem...its his.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:29 | 3531310 otto skorzeny
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so a kind-hearted leader will be flown in on the wings of angels to lead another ME country into a wonderful,peaceful democracy- my  toddlers aren't as naive as you seem to be about ME governing.assad is the head of a fairly secular govt-the CIA goon that will replace him- not so much.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:42 | 3531330 nmewn
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"Fairly secular" does not mean allowing slaughtering people of all faiths to make life easy for your smuggling henchmen...the shabiha.

Maybe you should tell the whole story instead of just the parts that fit your narrative.

I'll return in the morning to see if you are as naive as me ;-)

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 01:17 | 3531384 palmereldritch
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Why would a secular and Arabic 'progressive' government slaughter people of all faiths when that multi-faith group was its primary political base?

Not sure about the smuggling henchman part of your narrative..please provide a link if available...but there is this story of the Western backed terrorist rebel forces  (of the al Qaeda variety) indiscriminately slaughtering Christians in Syria

http://www.globalresearch.ca/breaking-western-backed-terrorists-in-syria...

Excusing egregious acts of terrorism aimed at Syria’s civilian population by claiming those targeted were “mostly loyal to President Bashar Assad” has been a favorite tactic of AP, BBC, CNN, Fox News, and others. In reality, the vast majority of Syrians, from Christians to Druze, from Shia’a Muslims to moderate Sunnis, are targets of the sectarian extremist, Saudi-Wahhabi indoctrinated terrorists the US, Israel, and Saudi Arabia have been funding, arming, importing from across the region, and arraying against the people of Syria since at least 2007.

The terrorists in Syria have recently received a boost by the West, arranging for them a political front in Doha, Qatar to act as the reasonable “face” for their armed terrorism, portraying the premeditated destabilization by foreign terrorists as an indigenous struggle for “freedom and democracy.” Already, even that front has suffered setbacks, as its newly US-Qatari appointed leader, Moaz al-Khatib, has been revealed as not only involved with Western oil corporations, but also has declared on Al Jazeera his intentions of establishing an “Islamic state.”

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 01:28 | 3531398 Savyindallas
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The House of Saud needs to fall  - they're no different than the Shah of Iran. They're nothing but CIA assets -assets of the global bankster mafia

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 01:56 | 3531439 palmereldritch
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  Come and listen to a story about a man named Jihad
  A poor bedouin, barely kept his family fahid,
  Then one day he was shootin at some Turks,
  And up through the ground came some babblin Brits.

 Oil that is, fiat gold, Petro-ponzi.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 10:11 | 3531873 nmewn
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Sure thing palmer, here ya go, the Shabiha...

The term (Shabiha) is believed to have first appeared in relation to the uprising against President Bashar al-Assad after a crackdown was launched in the port city of Latakia, where a notorious, mafia-like organised crime syndicate called the Shabiha has existed since the 1970s.

In towns along the Mediterranean coast, local shabiha gangs are said to run protection rackets, weapons- and drug-smuggling rings, and other criminal enterprises. Residents reportedly dare not mention the name.

Membership of the shabiha gangs is drawn largely from President Assad's minority Alawite sect, which dominates the government, security services and military. Many are members of the Assad family itself, and the related Deeb and Makhlouf families.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-14482968

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"As Syria descends into civil war, Abu Jaafar said he is ready to kill women and children to defend his friends, family and president.

"Sunni women are giving birth to babies who will fight us in years to come, so we have the right to fight anyone who can hurt us in the future," said the Alawite militiaman, a member of the ancient offshoot of Shiite Islam to which Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and the powerbase of his regime belong.

With his massive, tattooed muscles, shaved head, bushy black beard and trademark white trainers, Abu Jaafar, 38, looks every bit the figure of terror that is now imprinted on the international conscience. It is militiamen like Jaafar that are believed responsible for recent massacres in Houla and Qbeir, in which nearly 200 Sunni civilians were killed, many of them women and children who were stabbed to death."

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/world/jan-june12/syria_06-15.html

 

 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 01:23 | 3531389 Savyindallas
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You mean like we slaughtered about 300,000 of our Southern Countrymen in our civil war  -while burning, looting, raping, murdering and destroying everything in sight -like when Sherman made his famous march to the sea, and burned Atlanta on his way?  

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:42 | 3532405 giddy
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....ummmmm...but even Sherman prevented Ashkenazi carpetbaggers from descending onto Memphis...he and Grant saw t the AKs as parasites to America and the South...

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 01:22 | 3531390 otto skorzeny
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christians were always left to worship as they wanted- now al queda CIA rebels are stringing them up by their nuts.  as a christian whose regime would you live under? this goes back to WHY IN THE FUCK IS THE US INVOLVED? I think we all know. don't be so naive as to believe that there will ever be a utopia for all-especially in the ME. leave people alone- in the US and abroad. 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 02:05 | 3531445 Buckaroo Banzai
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"Christians were always left to worship as they wanted"???

WHAT. THE. FUCK.

Christianity has been under attack in the Arab world for millennia. At best they are tolerated as Dhimmi, forced to pay a special tax in order to practice their faith. Then from time to time, their churches are burned and they are slaughtered mercilessly.

I doubt that that is the way they "want" to worship.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 10:37 | 3531917 nmewn
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Pretty much and its not just in what we define as the Arab world. Its further down in Africa, in Nigeria and across the planet in Malaysia.

Let a Christian or Jew kill someone (or several) and its front page news, weeks & months of navel gazing and beard scratching.

Let mob of Islamists burn down entire villages or churches, hacking christians to death with machetes almost daily and we get...

Silence.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 17:18 | 3532724 FeralSerf
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Islam is not an evangelical religion like fundamental Calvinist Christianity.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 09:58 | 3531850 tmosley
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Replace "Assad" with "Bush" or "Obama", and a funny thing happens.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:20 | 3531287 lolmao500
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If they start getting hit by missiles filled with chemical weapons... and Iran, Hezbollah and Egypt were to join the fight... Israel would get the hardest fight they've ever been in... and with a nut like Bibi in charge, Israel would probably launch nukes at Damascus, Cairo, Beirut and Tehran... for starters. If either Israel is losing the war... or ``losing too many jews``... because you know, one jew is worth a million gentiles... (or so these right-wingers believe)

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:35 | 3531318 nmewn
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If someone hit Fla with a chemical weapon I'd be all for nuking them too, the thing with a missle is, it tells you where it came from...launch to strike.

I'm tellin ya right now, Hezbollah ain't got nuthin and is shittin in their pants, sitting in tunnels, rocking back & forth chanting Allah Akbar because their supply pipeline (their throat) is getting crushed. Iran has got a long march/flight of annihilation to try.

All eyes are on the Brotherhood and their M1A1's, if they go, they will be vaporized, unless stuxnet was a part of the software deal...and the Egyptians don't know it.

Place your bets, I'm out.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 01:27 | 3531396 otto skorzeny
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with Hez gone that will give the Israelis more time to shoot rock-throwing palestinian kids in the back and hassle old ladies and little kids at checkpoints as armored killdozers plow under more west bank settlements. fuck israel and the zionists.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 02:27 | 3531469 francis_sawyer
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RELIGIONS. ARE. THE OPIATE. OF. THE. MASSES.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:46 | 3532415 giddy
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...ummmmm...TRIBAL religious doctrine is evil...it's purpose is to isolate and seperate...God is Truth...it's simple really...

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 08:35 | 3531722 frostfan
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This is why you all come here with your batshit crazy comments. 80000 dead Syrians and millions of refugees living in turkey and jordan and you don't give a shit let alone donate but an Israeli airstrike and you're salivating with venom and bring up the palestinians.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:27 | 3531136 Seasmoke
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Did you ever hear the story of the Jewish Scorpion and the Frog.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:41 | 3531327 palmereldritch
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 The Protocols of Scorpion?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 01:01 | 3531362 Id fight Gandhi
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Scorpion asked the frog for a ride across the river. Frog resists saying he'll just be stung. Scorpion promises not to harm the Frog. Against his better judgment he gives him a ride.

Halfway across the river the frog gets stung. Asks, why did you do that? Now we'll both drown. Scorpion answers, well I'm a fucking scorpion, what did you expect?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 01:04 | 3531366 The Abstraction...
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You are right to fight Gandhi, he was evil.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:33 | 3531150 short screwed
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How many tons of Syrian gold is there to "liberate"?

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:37 | 3531172 nmewn
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I'm thinkin the Russians already got it. Assad was runnin on credit and time.

By the looks of things...both have run out.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:40 | 3531183 Kirk2NCC1701
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I'm pretty sure the Syrian water rights and pathway for oil/gas pipeline from Iraq is worth FAR more.  Stick to simplicity, and basic principles:  What it is and what it does.  :-)

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:40 | 3531161 22winmag
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The days of the filthy, criminal U.S. federal government are numbered.

 

If the military won't do it's job now and slap the handcuffs on the Golfer in Chief, the flag-draped metal coffins may start to really pile up. At that point, the fraggings will begin at the bottom and eventually work their way up.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:34 | 3531162 WelfareFTW
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Am I the only rooting for Israel to be annihilated in this conflict..?

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:36 | 3531168 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Muslims good- everyone else bad. Go fuck yourself Allah

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 12:31 | 3532114 moonstears
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Allah was the name of a bull god/moon god in mesopotamia circa 2000 BC (now called BCE for you learned) . Just sayin'

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:43 | 3531194 Kirk2NCC1701
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The ideal situation for the rest of the world is that there is ONE CLEAR WINNER:  Two get into the Octagon, One comes out. 

But where would that leave our MIC and the world's Merchant's of Death?  Well, maybe a campaign in Africa next...

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 01:03 | 3531365 The Abstraction...
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Please don't wish for the thermonuclear destruction of Israel...until all the oligarchs who have stolen our money have moved there. Then wish very very hard. If we can get enough people to focus our malice at the same time, maybe God will append it to the Soddom, Gommorrah list.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 02:10 | 3531451 James
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Kissinger recently said https://www.google.com/search?q=who+recently+said+israel+won%27t+be+in+t...

 

Oh and Bibi is in China.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 08:30 | 3531716 frostfan
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Child please. You come to a site where everyone hates Israel and worry about being alone. Man you poor fucks are insecure.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:38 | 3531175 New_Meat
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"It was not immediately known what the "defensive" purpose of tonight's offensive was, which supposedly targeted a military research base,"

Let's see, a) blow up fancy new rockets that are going to be aimed against kids?  b) remove nasty toys from the hands of Hezb'Allah?  c) "military research base" := "magazine", d) All of the above.

- Ned

 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:15 | 3531274 nmewn
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No no no...that was a agriculture research facility in the middle of the desert built with Nork "cement" that was blown up.

Wait, no, I'm wrong...that was a several years ago...my bad ;-)

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:36 | 3532384 FeralSerf
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Are you referring to Dimona?

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 06:24 | 3533633 nmewn
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No, Deir ez-Zor.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:39 | 3531178 Jack Burton
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I can't confirm that an Israeli aircraft was shot down in this raid. Israeli only admits a loss when the enemy can post video of it, so we await a video of the down aircraft's remains. On a side point, Syria's most modern anti aircraft systems are Russian manned. Do to poor performance of modern Russian systems when operated by Syrian forces, Russia has now demanded that their troops operate the expensive newer systems.

Syria does not have the really modern and long range mobile systems Russia can offer. But they do have second line systems that still have some good capabilities.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:42 | 3531187 Z_End
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The Israeli Mistake? Time will tell...

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:44 | 3531189 lolmao500
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While speculation a US-led escalation is ripe, the lack of any US naval support (as shown by Stratfor's naval update map from May 2) off the coast of Syria likely makes any immediate war is hardly likely, or that Israel will be on its own for at least the foreseeable future.

The US doesn't need aircraft carriers to destroy Syria. They have enough planes in Jordan, Israel and Turkey to do the job. Turkey is part of NATO... and they have a big ass army. The supply line could be by land to western Turkey... way more efficient than with a carrier strike group.... and the US has patriots missiles installed in western Turkey to protect them from retaliation (or so they think).

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:47 | 3531206 Z_End
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Stratford is only showing large decks. Nothing about smaller vessels and subs which would have cruise missiles aboard.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:43 | 3531192 Dave Thomas
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Sucks watching my tax dollars go up like that.

Time to go live under a bridge I guess.

- Signed a Murican

 

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:44 | 3531198 H E D G E H O G
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damn i miss getting shit faced drunk. sorry for the distraction.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:29 | 3531311 palmereldritch
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Dude, this is best shit faced drunk weather you could ask for

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:45 | 3531202 news printer
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Israeli jet shot down over Damascus: Hezbollah TV

BEIRUT: An Israeli warplane was shot down by Syrian air-defense units during a raid near Damascus early Sunday, Hezbollah's Manar television station reported, citing security sources in the Syrian capital.

There was no independent confirmation of the claim and Israel did not comment on the raid reports. 

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2013/May-05/216036-israeli-jet-shot-down-over-damascus-hezbollah-tv.ashx#ixzz2SO1HVo00
(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb)
Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:54 | 3531217 lolmao500
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Channel 10 in Israel said that Israel DID lost contact with 2 planes. Now we won't know for sure because Israel has serious military censorship of the news.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:56 | 3531222 The Shootist
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I dunno, he's close with putin and Iran.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:12 | 3531264 Jack Burton
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Isreal will admit to any losses only if the Syrians can produce evidence is the form of aircraft parts. I read that Isreal used missiles, not bombs to hit the targets, so they planes were is a stand off postion. Still, this area is so small, a decent mid range Russian mobile AA missiles could hit an Israeli jet anywhere it came close to Syrian borders.

It is hard to find out for sure what systems Syria has, they admit to a range of older Russian systems, but rumors are that Russian naval vessels docking in Tartus have, over the last year brought in some modern mobile systems. Not S-300, but some shorter range mobile systems. Some may not believe it, but the most modern Russian AA missiles, even the hand held infantry used systems are greatly feared by Israel. Like the big S-300 and the new S-400 have been called red line systems by Israel who knows their air force can not afford the loss ratio these systems can inflict in a protracted air campaign.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:32 | 3531316 otto skorzeny
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will US soil guerillas be able to get those smuggled in from Russia?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:51 | 3531343 lolmao500
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They should sell a bunch to Texas.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:54 | 3531219 lolmao500
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Assad is pretty much done whatever he does...

He does nothing : what's left of his army will revolt since he's such a weak ass bitch

He does retaliate : he's dead.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:59 | 3531230 boeing747
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Yes Brian, ZH asked what they were talking about when Obam had a meeting with bankers.

My answer then is "Iran war is on the table right after we finish Syria this summer".

Time to buy some oils.

 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:04 | 3531239 otto skorzeny
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good -$6+ a gallon will bring this whole house of shit crashing down.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:20 | 3531248 news printer
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US Believes Israelis Launched Airstrikes on Syria FROM Lebanon

http://image.almanar.com.lb/edimg/2013/MiddleEast/Syria/bombs/untitled.j...

U.S. officials (what officials; who?) told several U.S. news media organizations that Israel was believed to have sent warplanes over Lebanon on Thursday or Friday and fired into Syria without entering its airspace. The U.S. officials were quoted as saying they did not believe the target was chemical weapons.

http://www.almanar.com.lb/english/adetails.php?eid=92269&cid=18&fromval=...

This info may be false; not confirmed at all; BUT possible.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:08 | 3531249 lolmao500
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The Russian anti-air missiles that were destroyed were probably Igla-S...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SA-18_Grouse

9K338 Igla-S

Range : 6000m (20 000 feet)

Maximum target speed, receding : 890 mph

Maximum target speed, approaching : 720 mph

The F16 maximum speed at sea level : 915 mph Altitude : 1200 mph...the F-15 is about the same speed at low altitude and almost 50% faster at altitude.. thing is, it doesn't really matter... Israel is so close to Lebanon, they would have a hard time going at altitude and speed necessary to avoid those missiles... they could of course, but it would be extremely dangerous...

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:10 | 3531254 22winmag
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Missiles that fly underwater are even more of a threat...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shkval

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:12 | 3531261 lolmao500
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Yeah those torpedoes are insane...

 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:40 | 3531324 otto skorzeny
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imagine what the iranians could do with a few of those in the straights of hormuz

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 01:11 | 3531253 q99x2
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Damn I was hoping they could have waited for my decentralized self sustaining self replicating algorithm of moral unity to enter the internet.

Nonetheless: BitCoin 

  • Last price:$118.00000
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    Sun, 05/05/2013 - 01:14 | 3531378 RebelDevil
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    The bitcoin exchanges are dealing with another huge correction due to Mt. Gox getting a lawsuit.

    Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:10 | 3531256 lolmao500
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    While the Chicoms are at it once again...

    http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2013/05/223263.html

    Chinese ships enter Japanese waters near Senkakus

    NAHA, Japan, May 5, Kyodo

    Chinese maritime surveillance vessels intruded into Japanese waters Sunday near the Senkaku Islands, a Japanese-controlled islet group claimed by China, the Japan Coast Guard said.

    The three ships were observed entering the territorial waters in the East China Sea around 11 a.m. in the 42nd such incident since Tokyo nationalized the majority of the uninhibited islets last September, according to the coast guard which said its patrol ships warned by radio for them to get out.

    Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:10 | 3531257 Ignatius
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    Murder Inc. rides again.

    Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:13 | 3531265 Cman5000
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    It will be interesting to see if Hezbollah opens up a 2nd front on Northern Israel ? And what will Russia do ? Or it all just spins out of control until WW 111 starts ?

    Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:21 | 3531289 lolmao500
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    No matter what happens, nukes going off, chemical weapons used, Russia sending troops in Syria, Egypt, Hezbollah and Iran joining the fight... I'm sure it'll be bullish!

    Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:34 | 3531314 The Joker
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    <- Russia will bark but not bite (US made a deal with them)

    <-Russia will bite (there is no deal)

     

     

    Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:36 | 3531320 lolmao500
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    They will just bark but there's no deal. The Ruskies only die for other Ruskies.

    Sun, 05/05/2013 - 01:01 | 3531361 Savyindallas
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    So they will just sit back and let us take over a few more countries on their border to add to the 135 US bases that are already encircling them?

    Sun, 05/05/2013 - 02:48 | 3531482 Lednbrass
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    Letting us blow more money we don't have in yet another war is actually a fairly smart strategy.

    Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:15 | 3531271 Hongcha
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    Americans will need something to feel Righteous & Good about while they are waiting three hours for $5 gasoline.  That was the point of McCain's feeble attempt to rouse the troops with his 'impassioned plea' that Someone has to Do Something.

     

    Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:18 | 3531280 q99x2
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    This clip from RT looks like they set off a small nuclear bomb. The mushroom cloud is pretty clear.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=e84pVGsP6YU

    Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:26 | 3531299 Z_End
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    No nuke. Just a high order detonation.

    Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:24 | 3531297 walcott
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    it's definitely armageddon for those fuckers.

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