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Syria Declares Israel Attack An "Act Of War', While Israeli Defense Forces Close Northern Airspace

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In the aftermath of last night's second attack in two weeks by Israel on Syria, the immediate response has so far been muted, with Syria condemning the aggression as an act of war. According to UPI, Syria "vowed to retaliate after an apparent Israeli airstrike on the capital Damascus early Sunday. A government official said on CNN the attack on a military research facility was "an act of war" that the government would not take lightly. "Syria is a country that does not accept insults and it doesn't accept humiliation," said Omran Zoabi, Syria's information minister. Zoabi added the attack had opened "a wide door for all possible options." It remains to be seen what, if any, option Syria will take or if it will merely jawbone toothlessly, inviting further unrequited air-based incursions into its territory. Most likely any response will need the preapproval, and the assistance, of Putin.

Incidentally, the only response so far has come from Israel. As Stratfor reports, citing Israel News, the airspace in northern Israel has been closed until May 9 due to an Israel Defense Forces directive issued May 5. Which means the only planes flying in north Israel, which borders Syria through the Golan Heights, would be military.

In the meantime, those curious what Israel bombed and why on Sunday Morning, Enduring America has compiled a detailed analysis on the topic.

Early on Sunday morning, huge explosions rocked northern Damascus.

Scientists said that the explosions measured between two and three on the Richter scale, a scale designed to measure earthquakes. Giant balls of fire rose above Mt. Qasioun, a mountain that overlooks the capital and is at the center of Syria's largest military complex. The very symbol of Assad's control over Damascus was on fire.

Immediately, Syrian officials stated that an Israeli airstrike had hit a military installation in the area. Within a short time, unnamed American officials confirmed Israel had struck Damascus, a sign that the US government likely greenlighted the attack.

This strike took place within days of another Israeli airstrike that apparently targeted a shipment of rockets en route from the Syrian military to Hezbollah fighters in Lebanon.

Some analysts have said that a stockpile of rockets, made in Iran and bound for Lebanon, was the target of this second strike.

However, this analysis ignores the fact that several important military installations appear to have been the targets of this most recent strike.

The Syrian government claimed that a military research facility was struck (map). In addiion, there have been many videos of the explosions, taken from many different angles, which suggest that a much wider range of targets, across a wider area of the military installation, were struck and not simply a convoy of rockets.

An initial analysis by Stroyful's Félim McMahon suggests that the research facility itself was not hit, but rather the nearby headquarters of the 104th Brigade. Beyond this, videos suggest that huge stockpiles of weapons, likely artillery shells and ballistic/artillery rockets, were also destroyed in the airstrike.

The 104th Brigade is an elite group of Republican Guards tasked with defending one of the most sensitive areas of Assad's defense network in the capital. 

The precise locations of the targets are still being nailed down and confirmed, but some insurgent leaders are reporting that an even wider stretch of area was hit:

View Strike near Mount Qasioun (May 5, 2013) @felimmcmahon in a larger map

The 4th Armored Divion is Assad's most important unit, run by his brother, Rifaat Al Assad. If the 4th Armored Division was indeed the target of the airstrike, this is a major blow to Assad and to the regime.

The Israeli airstrike did not target stockpiles of weapons deep in storage.

These are the most important fortresses that the regime maintains, and are instrumental to Assad's ongoing defense against the rebel offensive. These artillery and rockets from this area are used to routinely target insurgent positions, and civilian neighborhoods, all across the capital, from east to west, north to south.

These stockpiles are particularly important to Assad's efforts to retake Darayya, the largest suburb of Damascus which has been at the front lines of the fight for the capital for over six months. There are unconfirmed reports that the 4th Armored Division and the 155th Brigade SCUD missile base were also hit, but even if this is not the case, the Israelis have struck at some of Assad's most important bases, just kilometers from the Presidential Palace.

The message to Assad is clear. If the regime continues to move rockets across the border to aid Hezbollah, Israel willnot only strike at the immediate threat, but will deal serious body blows to the regime, severely hampering Assad's efforts to counter Syria's insurgency.

The question remains, however, as to whether destabilizing Assad was the ultimate goal of this airstrike. At the very least, Israel has proven that it is willing to pick a side and go all in if it feels threatened.

This incident should also permanently put to rest the debate as to whether Assad's air defense is capable of standing up to external threats. Assad is completely vulnerable, and has been dealt a serious blow. As a result, Israel may have completely changed the debate about foreign intervention in a single instant, and may have catalyzed an international drive to remove Bashar al-Assad from power.



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Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:43 | 3532242 idea_hamster
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So colors the Golan as part of Syria.  That's a statement in and of itself....

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:15 | 3532262 Precious
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<- Civilian

<- Mossad

Hey Kito.  Push it down this time, you fucking tool.

As RT further reports, during the attack, one Israeli jet was reportedly shot down by Syria's Air Force, according to Hezbollah's Manar TV channel, citing security sources in Damascus."

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:24 | 3532349 kaiserhoff
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We have always been at war with Eurasia...,

   and under the thumb of the Zionists.

This is normal, and the only possible future.  Now, back to work comrades.  FORWARD!

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:34 | 3532380 AssFire
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Luckiliy, Switzerland will declare it's neutrality and offer to hold everyone's gold till the end of the conflict..


Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:39 | 3532395 kaiserhoff
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So that's what Bruce is up to.  Haven't heard from him lately. 

Sly Dog with that dopple ganger citizenship, or maybe he's up to a three bagger by now;)

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:46 | 3532418 fonzannoon
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Bruce finally realized it actually is QE4eva and so there is not much to write about now.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:09 | 3532497 Precious
Sun, 05/05/2013 - 18:25 | 3532815 Spirit Of Truth
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Of course, it's all a consequence of the DJIA reaching the psychologically important 15000 mark on Friday...

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 19:20 | 3532910 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Yes, of course, it's all falling into place now, isn't it?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 23:03 | 3533367 Spirit Of Truth
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The Homo sapien suicide rate peaks in May.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:48 | 3532427 PontifexMaximus
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Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:03 | 3532478 Anusocracy
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If people could overcome a small number of neurons in their brains and understand this quote:


"Whether the mask is labelled Fascism, Democracy, or Dictatorship of the Proletariat, our great adversary remains the Apparatus—the bureaucracy, the police, the military. Not the one facing us across the frontier or the battlelines, which is not so much our enemy as our brother's enemy, but the one that calls itself our protector and makes us its slaves. No matter what the circumstances, the worst betrayal will always be to subordinate ourselves to this Apparatus, and to trample underfoot, in its service, all human values in ourselves and in others."
— Simone Weil, Politics, Spring 1945

But alas, no.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:26 | 3532535 James_Cole
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If people could overcome a small number of neurons in their brains and understand this quote:

Yeah 'cause it's that simple - grab your foghorn and tell the people of Israel they need to disband the apparatus of state, that'll really work out. 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:31 | 3532549 stacking12321
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so, you're saying that because something is difficult to do, it shouldn't be attempted?

give up much?



Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:53 | 3532586 James_Cole
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so, you're saying that because something is difficult to do, it shouldn't be attempted?

give up much?

Nope, not what I said. 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:23 | 3532641 francis_sawyer
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Having 'Chosen One' status [especially when the distinction was scribed by your own], does not portend disbanding any apparatus that you've cocooned yourself within...


I guess Life's just a cocktail party when you have God on your side...

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:37 | 3532667 Solarman
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It doesn't hurt

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:40 | 3532675 James_Cole
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I guess Life's just a cocktail party when you have God on your side...

Countries at war have generally always had either God or a dictator leading the show (often both), jury is out on whether God is the trump card. 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 22:15 | 3533267 Kirk2NCC1701
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Those damn starship captains... They should never be allowed to travel back in time. See what happens, when one of them does, and violates the Prime Directive to jump-start their ancestors!?

Sorry, could not resist. But the point is, sometimes a different perspective is useful or required. Which was the whole point of the Trek series... to get you thinking What if...

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:29 | 3532545 stacking12321
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+1, bravo!



"war is when the government tells you who the enemy is.

revolution is when you figure out for yourself who the enemy is."

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 22:00 | 3533257 Kirk2NCC1701
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This is SO good, you need to get it copyrighted.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 23:17 | 3533377 RebelDevil
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Fuck Copyright! that's a tyranny in and of itself.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 01:40 | 3533447 Jorgen
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The second part about revolution does not apply to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917 afaik...

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:48 | 3532574 Randall Cabot
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The jew supremacist scumbags at still have Benghazi as their top headline with no mention at all of the jew supremacist attack on Syria. No doubt they are waiting for Syria to strike back and then run a screaming headline to the ziotard American morons as if Syria is the aggressor:




Benghazi Witness: We Knew It Was a Terrorist Attack 'From the Get Go'

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:08 | 3532611 john39
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what the MSM doesn't want you to know:

"Assad’s pro-Christian government forces have been gaining traction in the past couple of weeks against the Al Aqaeda-dominated terrorist “rebels,” thereby obstructing the goal of the New World Order to exterminate the large and flourishing Christian community in Syria, which has been protected by the Assad family for 40 years. As a result, the Israelis felt compelled to intervene on the side of the anti-Christian Islamic terrorists. As in Iraq under U.S. forces, Christians in Syria must be killed or expelled and the Israelis are helping to realize this objective with their completely illegal bombing of Syrian troops and facilities in and around Damascus."

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:39 | 3532672 Solarman
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Yeah, all 8% of them.  I know many Christian Syrians and Chaldeans, and this is a bunch of garbage.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 19:24 | 3532917 nmewn
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Just about everything he pimps is.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 06:25 | 3533636 silvermail
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All this could end very badly. Putin may at any time prohibit the transit of goods to Afghanistan via Russia. In addition, Putin may at any time to ship weapons to Afghanistan. If he does this, the U.S. military will be in a very difficult situation in Afghanistan.

If the U.S. and its allies can supply weapons to the opposition in Syria, what prevents Putin and his allies to start supply weapons of the opposition in Afghanistan?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 23:07 | 3533370 theliberalliberal
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tell my wife i said...hello

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 06:57 | 3533652 Vlad Tepid
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Do you lust for gold or just have a hart full of neutrality?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:42 | 3532676 Colonel Klink
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I've grown tired of all the zionist cunts.  Time for history to rhyme again.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 20:44 | 3533095 freak of nature
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You mean for nazi's to fail like they did in 45? Here's a rhyme...

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 18:56 | 3532858 bigyimmy007
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The "cold war" never really ended, it just expanded and is more subtle (at least to the dumbed down masses).

Politicians will never quit playing these games until they get us all killed.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 23:21 | 3533382 RebelDevil
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+1 - pretty much every nation that the US has problems with is backed by Russia or China, and China I think is also allied with Russia.

I wouldn't be suprised at all if the US led a set allies, and Russia led the opposing set of allies when WWIII starts.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:55 | 3532455 Randall Cabot
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According to an Israeli channel, Israel has officially cancelled all schools/day jobs tomorrow in case Syria decides to attack Tel Aviv.

Israel's Channel 10 is reporting a loss of contact with two Israeli warplanes over Syria


Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:10 | 3532474 Precious
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Is it shelter-in-place like they taught us in Boston?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:08 | 3532613 BigJim
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Across Tel Aviv, stationery stores are reported to be running low on scissors

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:21 | 3532642 TeamDepends
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Each and every American citizen must ultimately determine what the uh, edict, or the um, terror code level warning, or the erm, DHS command "shelter in place" means for his or her self.  For us, the meaning is quite clear:  Place your head firmly between your legs and kiss your bunghole goodbye.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 19:34 | 3532938 Chuck Walla
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Obomba!, Obomba!, Obomba!



Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:33 | 3532456 earleflorida
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@ ideal_hamster

Demarcation... as in india and pakistan

... and * 'The Balfour Declaration of 1917' ** [US enters WWI 6 April 1917 [WWI begins 28 July 1914 and officially ends at the Treaty of Versaille's signing 28 June 1918]                 

Note the date:  *** 1917? coincidence??   [no other links worked... strange, not even this!!!]

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 21:55 | 3533246 Herodotus
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June 28, 1919, not 1918.  The Armistice ending hostilities was on Nov 11, 1918.  The treaty was obviously signed later.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:22 | 3534810 earleflorida
Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:44 | 3532243 Doctor of Reality
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Wag the dog.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:53 | 3532268 LawsofPhysics
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Indeed, profits are down at the military industrial complex.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:17 | 3532331 TeamDepends
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Also, must hide the economic collapse.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:37 | 3532389 IrritableBowels
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What happened to NK?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:06 | 3532490 Race Car Driver
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Un is a young pup. He yaps as long as they tug his leash, but is easily distracted and quickly goes back to licking his balls once the handlers get what they want. He will become a better actor as he gets older.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:38 | 3532393 Lore
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Re: "Israel may have completely changed the debate about foreign intervention in a single instant, and may have catalyzed an international drive to remove Bashar al-Assad from power."

What planet is this writer on?  Does he not know who bankrolls Al-CIAda?  It has ALWAYS been about "foreign intervention." 

With this invasion of sovereign airspace, we should expect the US to come to Syria's aid. 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:52 | 3532587 Christophe2
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Well said.  It often feels like ZH is NOT FAR REMOVED from the mainstream.


Over 300 people murdered by Israel (likely mostly civilians), to say nothing of the OBVIOUS aid this gave to the al-CIAda terrorists who 'happened' to have coordinated their own brutal attacks last night, in OBVIOUS lockstep with their zionist masters.



Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:41 | 3532674 CheapBastard
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But, but, but isn't this "The Holy Land"?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 19:20 | 3532906 StychoKiller
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More like the Holey land, what with all the bomb craters...

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 05:01 | 3533587 JOYFUL
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LORE & Christophe2....

thankyou thankyou thankyou....

somehow I always knew that I would be 'away from desk' when shit got real and the hipbone went in...

having been offline all Sunday... and just catching up to the one day that mattered... I had already copied the quoted part of ZH's faux narrative which y'all brilliantly caught... and decided to scroll the comments before making a sally of my own....

I'm willing to write this one off to the infamous "weekend interns" problem which bedevils ZH... but I'm not willing to see this kind of bs continue much longer... get it together Tylers... if I want Foxnews... I can go to Foxnews! .... can't tell y'all how much it means to know that there's a crew of truthtellers here that can do the necessary heavy liftin when some of us need be away!

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:00 | 3532473 wee-weed up
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The wuss in the White House needs someone to do his fightin' for him.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:11 | 3532618 knukles
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No, that would be soooo Politically Correct and underhanded....

(And the nominees for Best Actor in the Nobel Peace Price are...)

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 20:41 | 3533094 Lore
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The White House is one of many proxies.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:42 | 3532403 tdag
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And...cue distraction #13,245

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:45 | 3532245 Fips_OnTheSpot
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Technical/officially "WAR" never ceased between syria and israel. but look out below..

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:46 | 3532246 ThisIsBob
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"... US government likely greenlighted the attack..."

Likely greenbacked it also.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 21:41 | 3533213 Vince Clortho
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Are there still vendors out there accepting counterfeit FRN's?

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 02:25 | 3533521 CompassionateFascist
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yes on 2, no on 1. Israel does what it wants. We pay the bill. 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:47 | 3532248 fonzannoon
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what/who don't we greenback?


Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:25 | 3532350 Yes We Can. But...
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Me. I receive, and want, nuttin

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:36 | 3532386 AssFire
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what/who don't we greenback?

Exactly, hell- we greenback wetbacks.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:52 | 3532442 beefman
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Hey dumbass, When will stop allowing yourself to be played for your racism. You are a little punk, too weak to fight against the real problem so your pussy ass hides behind a keyboard.

We are broke as a nation because of every wannabe  black, white and hispanic person falling for the credit game. If you have excellent credit you are actually the problem.  If you have a 30 year mortgage you are part of the problem.

A broke slave and a slave that pays their bills on time are both slaves. That's what people like you fail to understand. A slave is a slave.  Wake up!

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:35 | 3532555 StarTedStackin'
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Posting your stupidity once was enough, don't you think?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:53 | 3532443 beefman
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Hey dumbass, When will stop allowing yourself to be played for your racism. You are a little punk, too weak to fight against the real problem so your pussy ass hides behind a keyboard.

We are broke as a nation because of every wannabe  black, white and hispanic person falling for the credit game. If you have excellent credit you are actually the problem.  If you have a 30 year mortgage you are part of the problem.

A broke slave and a slave that pays their bills on time are both slaves. That's what people like you fail to understand. A slave is a slave.  Wake up!

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:38 | 3532561 StarTedStackin'
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I guess when you sign your real name like "BeefMan" does, you are NOT a pussy hiding behind a keyboard???????



Obama voter, huh?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 17:27 | 3532737 SpiceMustFlow
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Yeah the NSA already has us, might as well start using real names, but then we wouldn't be able to make absurd racist comments off the record so never mind

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:49 | 3532430 PontifexMaximus
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Free greenbacking

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:48 | 3532252 rtalcott
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So...what happened to the Russian built air defense system that is supposed to be so advanced?  Were they sleeping?


Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:06 | 3532260 Motorhead
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True 'nuff.  But don't think Benny didn't speak with Vlad before-hand.  (In fact, I'd take 2-to-1 odds that Benny called Vlad before calling Washington.)

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:27 | 3532360 Klazy Plick
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The Russian/Israeli development of the "Leviathan" gas field can't go forward until some regional stability has been achieved. 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:41 | 3532398 Lore
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Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:08 | 3532496 LawsofPhysics
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Simply put, control of resources and power.  The contrarian play is that Russia is and has been on board all along.  Market ratchets up another hundred point on Monday.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:54 | 3532272 Doña K
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Israeli radar jamming technology better than the US. All their F-16's have been gutted and new Israeli electronics have been installed.

I don't know much about thesethings, but my hubby told me.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:56 | 3532274 Motorhead
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I thought David Petraeus already had a girl friend.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:14 | 3532292 Precious
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Yah.  Israelis are superior people with superior minds making superior technology.  And so they buy F16's from the USA because they prefer to buy inferior crap and then re-do it.  

BTW, don't know how long you've been married, but your husband is probably a bullshitting douche.  Just say'in you might want to keep a closer eye on him.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:19 | 3532336 john39
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there are reports that one israeli jet was shot down... no real confirmation yet however.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:37 | 3532387 Precious
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There are reports that Jews crucified Christ ...  No real confirmation yet however.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:40 | 3532397 AssFire
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Let me remind all of you: Russia had sold the codes to it's air defense systems supplied to Syria in the past.

The question is: What did they get for them this time?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:44 | 3532409 reload
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CYPRUS: trade confirmation pending

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:46 | 3532419 AssFire
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Russia likewise remain silent following the first ever docking of a Russian warship in Israel's Haifa port last week...

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 18:27 | 3532817 Henry Hub
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According to Sibel Edmonds (CIA whistle blower) the U.S. is going to back off the CIA support for the rebels in Chechnya in return for Russia's betrayal of Syria.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:51 | 3532437 Stilicho
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The only reports I've seen are that a bunch of Jews turned over one of their own to their Roman overlords, who crucified him, which was a Roman form of punishment. To the credit of the Roman governor, he did allow the crowd to choose one death row prisoner to receive amnesty. I find it curious that so many millions of non-Jews are still so upset about the death of a single Jew that ocurred two thousand years ago. And if you believe that said Jew rose from the dead and that this single deed alone is the cornerstone of proving he is divine... then it stands to reason he had to die, but didn't stay dead and is God. So, what is there to be angry about now? Don't get it.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:24 | 3532530 algol_dog
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"To the credit of the Roman governor, he did allow the crowd to choose one death row prisoner to receive amnesty"

Yes, those Romans were so very compassionate towards their conquered peoples, as well as, being forced to do the bidding of a mean & scarry "bunch of Jews" who turned in one of their own.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:40 | 3532559 Kirk2NCC1701
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Jesus (Yeshua of Nazaret) was charismatic religious leader, who became a growing and competing power center to the Sanhedrin -- and hence a potential threat, to be watched and potentially eliminated.  His influence (power!) growing trajectory crossed what we now call Netanyahu's "WMD Red Line", when he threw out their Central Bankers from the Temple -- their World Trade Center.  Jesus thus officially became a Weapon of Monetary Destruction for the money changers and priests/Elite.  After that, he was "dead meat".  All else is Bread & Circus.

Christians (followers of Jesus) would have stayed a Jewish sect, had not one of them -- 'Saul' one of its persecutors, interestingly enough -- not had the 'epiphany' to transform it into a Global Franchise.  Enter 'Paul'.  And the rest, as they say, is History.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 00:40 | 3532567 Precious
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You mean the Jews had the Romans do the dirty work for them?  What a concept !

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 18:36 | 3532830 Henry Hub
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Good Summary!

Now if only Jesus would return and drive the money changers out of Wall Street. Every Christian with his AR15 would back Him. They wouldn't get another chance to harm him again

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 21:00 | 3533136 Lore
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Constantine helped, for a while at least.

Wonder what Jesus would say about "Green" Agenda 21 and the post-sustainability Gaia Cult. Consider the source...

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 01:21 | 3533484 walküre
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At the same time it is recorded (by whom is questionable) that he sat and had lunch with the tax collector to establish for all Christians that they should "render to Ceasar what is Ceasar's". In other words, the people who wrote the script made perfectly sure that Christians would be the perfect sheep and accepting taxation for any reason and at any level.

Good lil' Christians pay tax and love it! They also love usury and working harder so that the government can increase taxation and public debt. Perfect hosts for the parasites.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 05:43 | 3533608 JB
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I think you might have missed the point of that exchange...

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 05:40 | 3533605 JB
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Saul (Paul) was a Jew. Sure, he was also a Roman citizen, but by that point MOST of the Roman freeman were NOT of Roman descent.


Due to the habit of wealthy Romans giving freedom to their slaves, by the time of Rome's rise to global power status, no more than 10% of Roman citizens residing in what is now Italy were actually Romans. The Mesopotamians had taken over.



Mon, 05/06/2013 - 06:03 | 3533622 moonstears
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"Things that go bump"...and Paul was crucified (upside down, feeling he didn't deserve to be executed as Christ) even though a Roman citizen. Neat to see the biblical knowledge of ZHers...rare, like finding one who understands econ, beyond 101 "supply and demand", I'd  suppose.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:03 | 3532605 Things that go bump
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The Roman's liked to keep their collaborator governments as happy as possible and were not opposed to doing favors when it cost them nothing while they continued to tansfer the wealth of the subjected to Rome. Cruxifixion was an execution method exclusively used for slaves in Rome and for nonRomans. If they were feeling compasionate they broke the legs of the condemned first so they couldn't support themselves on the cross and suffocated more quickly, which I note was not reportedly done for Christ. I understand it generally took a strong man a lot longer than 3 hours to die on a cross.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:37 | 3532666 francis_sawyer
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In Gitmo... Muzzies are waterboarded into giving scripted testimony... [& I read a few posts here about torture methods of the Bolsheviks]... Not a whole hell of a lot has changed I don't reckon...



Mon, 05/06/2013 - 05:31 | 3533602 JB
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He was Judean, not a Jew.

Big difference.

Though most haven't studied their history in that kind of detail.


Long story short, the Jews and Judeans were two COMPLETELY different people.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:25 | 3532351 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Muslims build best the technology in the world, suicide bombers. Hey Shia hey Sunni come get your home made weapons.

What a bunch a idiots.


Allah is a pimp.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:34 | 3532381 john39
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Allah is just the Arabic word for "God"...   the same God that Jesus and Abraham prayed to... so you just called God a pimp.   

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:42 | 3532404 Precious
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Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:56 | 3532457 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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My god does not allow me to kill others in his name. Allah not only allows it  but those who interpet the Koran in certain ways demand it.

This is not about semantics. This is about followers of Islam killing each other and those not associated with there faith because of their understanding of Islam.

Do not twist my meaning.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:00 | 3532469 john39
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ever hear of the crusades?  ever read the so called "Old Testament", filled with war and genocide?  you might want to think through your statement a bit more.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:38 | 3532669 francis_sawyer
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I'm sure the Inquisition was a cakewalk...

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 18:39 | 3532838 Acet
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Haven't you seen the Monty Python's documentary on the Spanish Inquisition? It was all just confy chairs and soft cushions.


Sun, 05/05/2013 - 19:00 | 3532863 mick_richfield
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Well, I wasn't expecting anyone to mention the Spanish Inquisition !

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 23:49 | 3533417 HedgeHammer
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"ever read the so called "Old Testament", filled with war and genocide?  you might want to think through your statement a bit more."


 True yes,

NU 31:17-18 Moses, following the Lord's command, orders the Israelites to kill all the Midianite male children and "... every woman who has known man ...." (Note: How would it be determined which women had known men? One can only speculate.)

NU 31:31-40 32,000 virgins are taken by the Israelites as booty. Thirty-two are set aside (to be sacrificed?) as a tribute for the Lord.


We are now living in the New Testament since The good Lord had had enough of us and was about to wipe us all off the face of the Earth but Jesus said to the Lord let me go in their place that I may teach them the ways of the Lord that they yet may be saved. Paraphrasing mostly. Anyway Long Long Story and the Ten Commandments and thought shall not kill. Now that does not mean thow shall not defend thyself with an AK-47 and a couple of flash bangs just so you get the real meaning of that commandment.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:27 | 3532539 Kirk2NCC1701
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Seems to me that "God" is just another word for "Dad".  And, like two kids:  "My Dad can beat your dad". /s

Actually, sitting up here, what is closer to the truth:  "My ET alien can beat your ET alien.  Sort of like 'My Vulcans can beat your Klingons'."

Kirk out.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:59 | 3532706 YellowBrickSWE
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Nope, "God" is just another word for "Gold" in most languages!

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:51 | 3532432 Freddie
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I don't like the Islamics and Assad is shit but he is better than Israel/Saudis/Obama/Al Qeada who are trying to take over Syria by murdering innocent Syrians.  This is also Wag The Dog shit.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 17:54 | 3532777 TheFourthStooge-ing
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+1 Freddie.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 18:14 | 3532802 Ignorance is bliss
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There are several posters...Freddie being one, that I usually pay attention too. 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 20:24 | 3533063 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Well, I usually don't spend much time reading his comments. While I believe his heart is in the right place, his head is still trapped within the confines of the anti-moslem brainwashing which we were all subjected to by the various media. Until he sees for himself that it's just another divide and conquer tactic, he's holding himself back by expending effort not to understand.

Aside from that, I found his comment insightful and on-the-money, and I believe in giving credit where it is due.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:57 | 3532280 fonzannoon
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Here is a good illustration of radar jamming.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:26 | 3532357 Sabibaby
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They jammed the hell out of those radars!

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:05 | 3532297 dolph9
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The Jews can't build jack shit without aid and technology from American whitey.

In few decades Israel is finished, the Arabs will have their way with it.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:27 | 3532359 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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In a few years Arabs will run out of hydrocarbon wealth and will be back to killing each other on camels over some ignorant bullshit about the Koran.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:55 | 3532454 Freddie
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It "ain't" either/or.  They both suck and they both are enemies of average Americans or Europeans.  The muslims are more violent and direct. The others are just as bad.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:56 | 3532460 PontifexMaximus
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Would not bet on it

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:57 | 3532462 fourchan
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brainwashed robots fighting over invisable men in the middle of a desert. muslems are retards.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:58 | 3532464 W T F II
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whatddya mean .."be back to killing each other"...when did they stop..?? Just curious on your time-line..??

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:17 | 3532638 knukles
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They run outa oil to fuck around with they'll still have camels and goats...
All is not lost

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:28 | 3532364 THX 1178
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Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:29 | 3532366 Divine Wind
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You are either a liar or completely ignorant.

The facts demonstrate something completely different.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:34 | 3532378 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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So Sunni and Shite do not kill each other about religion.


Or are you a liar or ignorant?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:41 | 3532400 Divine Wind
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Dear Temporary ZH Shill,

I said nothing about Sunni and Shit.


Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:49 | 3532422 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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click on my use name little boy and see how long I have been here.


So your response was about hydrocarbons?

My post was an attack on Islam using the hydrocarbon wealth!!!!!!!

And that Muslims just like killing.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:07 | 3532492 Tortuga
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Git some, fx!!!!!!!!!!

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:10 | 3532502 nmewn
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lol...he's kickin some serious ass around here.

Ah well, off to cut the grass and release some carbon into the atmosphere ;-)

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:45 | 3532417 Boondocker
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Typical short view.....history shows the jewish people are resiliant.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:51 | 3532435 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Although they have a history of letting alot of their community get killed before they really try to do anything.

I find this confusing.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:53 | 3532445 Tortuga
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LMAOROF! Keep believing the lies hater. Without oil money the arabs would be doing what they are good at, herding camels and goats and picking lice off each other. Oh, and having sex with little boys.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:55 | 3532452 PontifexMaximus
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Just look at their birth rate, the orthodoxe can't match up

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:00 | 3532472 beefman
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The Jews can't build jack shit without aid and technology from American whitey.

In few decades Israel is finished, the Arabs will have their way with it.

dolph9 and every one who up-arrowed this crazy statement I challenge you to check on Israel in ten years I guarantee Israel will be standing and Syria will be finished. 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:54 | 3532592 Cathartes Aura
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"ten years" eh?  coincidentally, the number herr kissygrrr landed on!


Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:56 | 3532594 Poetic injustice
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For the sake of the world, I hope it is not the case.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 19:11 | 3532880 HyperinflatmyNutts
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fuck Israel!!  With out our Tax dollars and our weaponry there would be NO Israel!!  The Biggest Terror State going. I am sick of all these Israel supporters. 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 21:07 | 3533152 TNTARG
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I give you a + because of your nickname!

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 05:52 | 3533615 JB
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"Biggest Terrorist State Going" is the good ol' USofA.

Don't get it twisted.


Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:48 | 3532495 Kirk2NCC1701
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I'm not big on hubris. At the rate they're going up and we're going down, we'll be a former empire, and they will be strong and surrounded by neutered and chaotic Arab states.

They got tons of nukes, tech, a navy, subs, and will soon control the water supply from Syria to Israel. Pipeline from Iraq via Syria is next.

The US will have served its purpose; the 98-lb weakling is pumping iron and a weakling no more, and no longer needs the Bik Kid on his side to run interference or fight his battles.

In its next geoplitical move, Israel will eye a weakened EU to join and dominate.  Maybe one day Jerusalem will be a kind of power center between the industrial and cultured Europe, and the energy-rich Middle East.  To do that, its former "strong" neighbors (Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Iran and Saudi Arabia) must be weak or in chaos.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:08 | 3532308 Taint Boil
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I don't know much about thesethings, but my hubby told me. 

Why don’t you fetch him a beer and make him a sandwich, Zero Hedge is for big boys……… 

I’m KIDDING of course


Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:47 | 3532423 Boondocker
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Then you better go home.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:18 | 3532517 Doña K
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I, on a daily basis, cook gourmet meals for us and serve wine for him amd beer for me.

It is actually true that they replace the electronics. The Israeli's claim theirs are better. Maybe they want to have something different than the US perhaps for other reasons.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:44 | 3532682 francis_sawyer
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You're seriously making me barf with all these platitudes... If that was your goal all along... Then congrats... You win...

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 22:44 | 3533351 Kirk2NCC1701
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Given that they participate in the products' Development phase (via its Dual Citizens and Joint Ventures), they have the insider track like NO other ally or friend if the US. This is a Fact. First hand. After that, of course they customize stuff. Self-evident, really.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 03:25 | 3533534 RichardP
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It is actually true that they replace the electronics.

American electronics would phone home.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 05:55 | 3533618 JB
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On a cell phone? Which was invented/developed in Israel?



Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:19 | 3532334 LeisureSmith
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As the Tweet says :IAF raided 12 targets including units of 4th division and air force intelligence without penetrating Syrian airspace.

Syria can not strike fighters outside their airspace now can they.... at least not with out highpitched screetching about sovereignty and all that.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:59 | 3532597 PontifexMaximus
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Ask ronald reagan

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 19:17 | 3532895 hyperbole2000
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Only the russian base on the coast is protected by them. Being located beside Damascus will make the ending of the war difficult do to threat from collateral damage to ruski base. That Assad will loose is a foregone conclusion. War needs to end.  Someone needs to step in and end the civillian carnage now. Isreal should be applauded for having the balls to act even if there motive was Hezbollah driven. At least they proved there are no more rules in the theatre.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 00:24 | 3533448 spine001
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Russian staff is so old that it is NO match for Israeli weapons and defenses. Soviet staff is still based on old Russian processors with a few kilobytes of RAM. Israels staff has 8 to 64 cores doing paralel processing at several gigahertz with gigabytes of superfast memory (this is just the equivalent of a few Galaxy Notepads iii). Were it not for the heavy weaponery like intercontinental missiles and shear volume of the Russian army and navy, Israel could take them on single handedly. Israel doesn't want anybody to know their real fire power, and military capabiolities, since that would provide political support for an even worse arms race in the region. This is not from any privileged information, only from my own inteligence analysis of the facts know publicly and the extrapolated technological progress and prowess of the technical people I know from the Technion.

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