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Syria Declares Israel Attack An "Act Of War', While Israeli Defense Forces Close Northern Airspace

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In the aftermath of last night's second attack in two weeks by Israel on Syria, the immediate response has so far been muted, with Syria condemning the aggression as an act of war. According to UPI, Syria "vowed to retaliate after an apparent Israeli airstrike on the capital Damascus early Sunday. A government official said on CNN the attack on a military research facility was "an act of war" that the government would not take lightly. "Syria is a country that does not accept insults and it doesn't accept humiliation," said Omran Zoabi, Syria's information minister. Zoabi added the attack had opened "a wide door for all possible options." It remains to be seen what, if any, option Syria will take or if it will merely jawbone toothlessly, inviting further unrequited air-based incursions into its territory. Most likely any response will need the preapproval, and the assistance, of Putin.

Incidentally, the only response so far has come from Israel. As Stratfor reports, citing Israel News, the airspace in northern Israel has been closed until May 9 due to an Israel Defense Forces directive issued May 5. Which means the only planes flying in north Israel, which borders Syria through the Golan Heights, would be military.

In the meantime, those curious what Israel bombed and why on Sunday Morning, Enduring America has compiled a detailed analysis on the topic.

Early on Sunday morning, huge explosions rocked northern Damascus.

Scientists said that the explosions measured between two and three on the Richter scale, a scale designed to measure earthquakes. Giant balls of fire rose above Mt. Qasioun, a mountain that overlooks the capital and is at the center of Syria's largest military complex. The very symbol of Assad's control over Damascus was on fire.

Immediately, Syrian officials stated that an Israeli airstrike had hit a military installation in the area. Within a short time, unnamed American officials confirmed Israel had struck Damascus, a sign that the US government likely greenlighted the attack.

This strike took place within days of another Israeli airstrike that apparently targeted a shipment of rockets en route from the Syrian military to Hezbollah fighters in Lebanon.

Some analysts have said that a stockpile of rockets, made in Iran and bound for Lebanon, was the target of this second strike.

However, this analysis ignores the fact that several important military installations appear to have been the targets of this most recent strike.

The Syrian government claimed that a military research facility was struck (map). In addiion, there have been many videos of the explosions, taken from many different angles, which suggest that a much wider range of targets, across a wider area of the military installation, were struck and not simply a convoy of rockets.

An initial analysis by Stroyful's Félim McMahon suggests that the research facility itself was not hit, but rather the nearby headquarters of the 104th Brigade. Beyond this, videos suggest that huge stockpiles of weapons, likely artillery shells and ballistic/artillery rockets, were also destroyed in the airstrike.

The 104th Brigade is an elite group of Republican Guards tasked with defending one of the most sensitive areas of Assad's defense network in the capital. 

The precise locations of the targets are still being nailed down and confirmed, but some insurgent leaders are reporting that an even wider stretch of area was hit:

View Strike near Mount Qasioun (May 5, 2013) @felimmcmahon in a larger map

The 4th Armored Divion is Assad's most important unit, run by his brother, Rifaat Al Assad. If the 4th Armored Division was indeed the target of the airstrike, this is a major blow to Assad and to the regime.

The Israeli airstrike did not target stockpiles of weapons deep in storage.

These are the most important fortresses that the regime maintains, and are instrumental to Assad's ongoing defense against the rebel offensive. These artillery and rockets from this area are used to routinely target insurgent positions, and civilian neighborhoods, all across the capital, from east to west, north to south.

These stockpiles are particularly important to Assad's efforts to retake Darayya, the largest suburb of Damascus which has been at the front lines of the fight for the capital for over six months. There are unconfirmed reports that the 4th Armored Division and the 155th Brigade SCUD missile base were also hit, but even if this is not the case, the Israelis have struck at some of Assad's most important bases, just kilometers from the Presidential Palace.

The message to Assad is clear. If the regime continues to move rockets across the border to aid Hezbollah, Israel willnot only strike at the immediate threat, but will deal serious body blows to the regime, severely hampering Assad's efforts to counter Syria's insurgency.

The question remains, however, as to whether destabilizing Assad was the ultimate goal of this airstrike. At the very least, Israel has proven that it is willing to pick a side and go all in if it feels threatened.

This incident should also permanently put to rest the debate as to whether Assad's air defense is capable of standing up to external threats. Assad is completely vulnerable, and has been dealt a serious blow. As a result, Israel may have completely changed the debate about foreign intervention in a single instant, and may have catalyzed an international drive to remove Bashar al-Assad from power.

 

 

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Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:49 | 3532255 cherry picker
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If they want to fight, let them fight, but don't expect any help from me or my tax dollars as I won't pay taxes for this garbage.

I would rather send my money to the innocent victims of the attrocity of war, regardless where or who they are and I will make the decision who I will help, not Obama and his crew.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:37 | 3532388 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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How much  have you sent to Nigerian Christains being persecuted by Muslims?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:05 | 3532486 Tortuga
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Or the Coptic Christians being murdered in Egypt? Or the families of the murdered child and women in Boston?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:56 | 3532459 Boondocker
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Nice sentiment but you are NOT the decider.  

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:03 | 3532481 cherry picker
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In this you are wrong.  I am the decider.  They can't force me to pay anything.  I can always quit making money, they can throw mw in jail and it will cost them.

 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:10 | 3532504 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Dude jail sucks.

If you ever make a choice, a real choice, do not choose jail.

They are run by Union workers in a many states and contract workers in others.

Neither of those kind of workers are able to understand that life has meaning beyond their next paycheck and how fat they are.

Anyone who chooses to be a prison guard is just a stupidier fuck who could not make it as an LEO.

And LEO's are not that smart at all.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:31 | 3532506 Kirk2NCC1701
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Cherry Picker, they won't throw you in jail. They'll make you... pick cherries.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:15 | 3532512 Tortuga
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Sounds like you have a plan. Go for it.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:15 | 3532513 Tortuga
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Sounds like you have a plan. Go for it.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:05 | 3532487 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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So war victims only matter when they are they right kind of victims?

That kinda of changes the whole thing.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 18:19 | 3532811 Ignorance is bliss
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If we are talking tax dollar revolt. I'd rather spend my money on what I want....Gold!!!

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:49 | 3532256 Martin Silenus
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Betcha that broke some windows.  Ready the shovels!

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:30 | 3532368 krispkritter
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I'll say it did: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr6gPsq6gxs  Looks a lot like that Texas explosion. 

Beware the snackbars...

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:37 | 3532394 Gringo Viejo
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@ krispkritter

Thx 4 the post. For weeks I've been wracking my brain for a name for a deli I'm going to open......and you just gave it to me.

Allah Snackbar

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:06 | 3532489 krispkritter
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Name a sandwich 'The Ham Grenade'.  They'll sell like hotcakes but not because they want to eat them, they'll just lob them at each other...all while yelling the name of your business.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:20 | 3532520 Gringo Viejo
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Excellent krisp! Right alongside my "Suicide Jack Melt".

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:49 | 3532257 Che Guevara is Dead
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The Syrian government hates us. The Syrian rebels hate us. Why not arm both sides and let them beat the living shit out of each other? When one side begins to win, favor the other. Repeat as necessary. Make Syria a quagmire for Russia, Iran and Al Qaeda. 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:52 | 3532266 Motorhead
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A "Syria-Rebel" scandal a la Iran-Contra...perfect! 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:58 | 3532284 Doña K
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The US did that  with Iran Iraq war for years. Both Israeli and US war merchants made a ton of money.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:00 | 3532286 Motorhead
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And that Saudi dude (forget his name).  Ooops, sorry...a Saudi and US and Israeli merchants...one in the same.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:10 | 3532313 ross81
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The Syrian govt does not fucking hate you or anyone in the West, idiot. Assad is primarily a secularist who is merely 'guilty' of standing up for his country's independence & opposing US/Israeli hegemony over his nation and the wider region. Get an education already.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:27 | 3532362 Tortuga
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Assad is a scumbag two bit tyrant that kills his own people to maintain power. Drink some more koo aid and adjust your tin foil hat, hater.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:27 | 3532653 Kirk2NCC1701
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The list of political, economic or social "scumbags" is very, VERY long.  It is more useful and realistic to see him for what he really is:  an Inconvenient Obstacle.

An inconvenient obstacle to regional politics and resource development (expoitation).  His neighbors and enemies simply have other ideas/goals, that they are now ready to act upon.  All else is, sorry to say, circus and "collateral damage".

Was that too 'diplomatic' for you?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:31 | 3532373 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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But he is a Muslim right?

And where in his happy peace loving world do the infidels get to live in peace?

Reject Islam find life.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:13 | 3532626 bichat
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Do you hate all religions in general, or is it just islam?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:40 | 3532673 john39
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the irony, assads army is protecting syrian christians while the nwo israeli backed terrorists kill christians.  go figure, you csnt fix ignorant.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 18:09 | 3532793 red_pill
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He's also one of the few leaders of a country in the world without a Rothschild  controlled central bank. His countires banking system forbids usury (interest) on loans, instead you repay the principal plus a flat fee instead of compund interest which can end up doubling or more the amount  of the principal over  the life of the loan. When Bush made his (in)famous 'axis of evil' speech, the only countries on the list also had no Rothschild central banking system.....Libya (check) Iraq (check) North Korea (still kickin)

Syria (attacked by banker funded mercs/alqueda for a while now, but still going) and Iran (the biggest one of all) Oh and Cuba (too small to worry about right now)

So as usual, par for the course of the last few centuries (at least) the bankers want control of a countries money supply so they dont have to worry about who runs the country (paraphrasing Mayer Rothschild) and they work in many ways to get this done...economic crisis, wars, famines....

 

 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 20:26 | 3533069 TNTARG
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So was Libya before "liberation".

Tell all those who are arguing about religion.

 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:32 | 3532374 q99x2
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The Arabs could go after the banking families and have it stop immediatly. That's what Castro prepared to do in the 60s and it worked great for him. It would surely work better than trying to go up against a nation of sheeple.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:54 | 3532451 Stilicho
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Have you ever considered becoming a lobbyist?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:53 | 3532258 seek
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New moon on 5/10. Seems to be a favored condition for land assaults on our side.

Edit:Not that we have much in the area to assault with.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:33 | 3532377 Divine Wind
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Actually, we have quite a bit in the area. Just not naval assets.

At a minimum, air bases or access to them in Turkey, Jordan, Saudi Arabia (Shhhhh. That is supposed to be a secret) and elsewhere.

There are also far more U.S. troops in Jordan than the 200 or so just announced.

Far more.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:12 | 3532623 Cathartes Aura
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new moon solar eclipse, 8:28pm eastern. . .

another piece to consider is Mars (god of War) in Taurus all month of May - Israel "declared" 14 May 1948. . . I'm watching the middle-to-end of month, much world tension building to the next Uranus/Pluto square on 20th, with a relatively rare second lunar eclipse on 24/25 May, definitely a "shock to the systems" incoming.

for what it's worth.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:51 | 3532259 yogibear
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The Jews will laugh at Syria. Israel could fight and win against Iran, Palestine, Syria and Egypt all at the same time. A joke. 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:53 | 3532269 LasVegasDave
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"Syria is a country that does not accept insults and it doesn't accept humiliation,"

LMAO.  Only arabs talk like this

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:17 | 3532329 Kaiser Sousa
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"The Jews will laugh at Syria."

yeah, had a bully back in junior high who used to torment me and laugh like you joke about...then my Dad said if i let it happen again not to come home cause he'd beat my ass...

the next day in class i hit him in the mouth with a wrench from dad's tool box and knocked out his teeth....

he didnt fuck with me, laugh or smile for the remainder of the year....

you shall reap what you sow.........

 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:24 | 3532346 john39
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israel got beat down in the 33 day lebanon war by a lowly militia...  and yet the trolls here would have you believe that Isreal is going to take on Syria and Iran, without uncle gorilla doing the dirty work...  sure they are.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:37 | 3532391 Divine Wind
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Israel was NOT beat down.

You either lie or are ignorant of the facts.

Israel will prevail.

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:46 | 3532420 john39
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sorry, but your unsupported posturing can't change the facts on the ground.  is-ra-el was soundly defeated in the 33 day war:

http://freethoughtmanifesto.blogspot.com/2011/10/33-day-war-how-hezbollah-defeated.html

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:51 | 3532433 Divine Wind
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Hardly authoritative.

*yawn*

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 19:43 | 3532961 Henry Hub
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The truth is Israel was soundly defeated by Hezbollah in Lebanon. They lost hundreds of their vaunted Merkava tanks. But worse the IDF troops actually cut and ran from the battle field. One of the worse show of cowardice by any standing army since WWII. 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:52 | 3532439 MeelionDollerBogus
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You forgot the /sarc

Or your brain.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:14 | 3532509 resurger
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Prevail .... hahahahahahaha

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:19 | 3532353 Tortuga
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So, when did LV become the 57th state?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:43 | 3532407 Kaiser Sousa
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"Only arabs talk like this..."

yeah, well and maybe someone with the name sake of a state that has 40,000 vacant homes and 20,000 more in some form of foreclosure could only "think like that...."

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:23 | 3532528 Urban Redneck
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"Only arabs talk like this" - they may, but diplomatic PR mouthpieces SHOULDN'T speak like that- at least in public, "humiliation" doesn't afford any ambiguity, wiggle room, legal linguistic acrobatics or an honorable retreat (short of a bullion payment).  I fear the war-mongers might get the excuse they are looking for.

 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:53 | 3532270 LawsofPhysics
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Indeed.  So let them, all by themselves.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:04 | 3532299 Golden_Rule
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Let us hope that is what it comes to.  Peace is impossible as long as these zionist are allowed to maintain a military.

 

"I could've wiped the Jews from the face of the earth, but I left some so people could see why I did what I did" - Hitler

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:11 | 3532317 LasVegasDave
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But wait, I thought Hitler was a tool of the jews.

Please get your conspiracies straight.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:41 | 3532401 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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zionist are allowed to maintain a military

Isamic chickenshit bullshit.

Only a fucking Muzzie would find it honorable to fight an enemy with weapons of war while they have none.

 

Make more suicide bombers you fucking coward.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:33 | 3532553 Golden_Rule
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lol.  It is Israel who has disallowed Palestine from maintaining an army, all the while stealing their land.  I think my statement was more Jewie than anything.

Tue, 05/07/2013 - 13:18 | 3537951 Anusocracy
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"Only a fucking Muzzie would find it honorable to fight an enemy with weapons of war while they have none."

So maybe Israel should get rid of its 200+ nukes.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:06 | 3532304 besnook
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they learned how to retreat in 2006. they will be a lot better at it this time.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:24 | 3532348 Tortuga
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Yes, but it still sucks being surrounded by hater baby killers.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:51 | 3532261 Debugas
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syria reports chiken-farm was hit...

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:56 | 3532276 Motorhead
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Ooops, they missed the milk factory.  I think the Israelis get three tries for a shekel.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:58 | 3532281 Anusocracy
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That will certainly upset the chickenhawks.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:57 | 3532279 no2foreclosures
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Duh! Of course it is.  Just imagine for a second the shoe on the other foot.  The lamestream Jewish mass  media would be screaming their fucking heads off.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:01 | 3532290 Anusocracy
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Israel is the home to a lot of high-function psychopaths.

 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 22:35 | 3533330 TheGrandChessboard
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You know whats surprising how nakedly they are with there bias, anything they dont like is buried so deep you need mining equipment to find it, anything they like amplified so loudly you cant hear anything else. Today for example in the newspapers there was not a single mention of the Isreali attack on syria -- but if it was the Syrians attacking Israel it would be all we heard about for weeks. If you start looking at who owns these papers, you realize its the jews, you point this out and its anti-semitic. How can you solve a problem if most people dont even know there is a problem.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:11 | 3534325 no2foreclosures
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Here is the title of a "news report" on the Israeli attack in our local English paper in Jewish-dominated and Jewish-owned Buenos Aires called the Buenos Aires Herald (BA is the home to one of the largest Jewish populations in the world):

Israel to Assad: air strikes did not aim to help Syria rebels

http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/130428/israel-to-assad-air-stri...

You cannot make this shit up!  Oops, of course you can if you own the mass indoctrinating media.

Hey, Syria and President Assad:  We, the Righteous Jews and Chosen People of Planet Earth, didn't mean to weaken you by bombing the shit out of your military research facility this weekend or that attack last week, using radioactive "depleted" uranium. We only did this wonderful service for your good health and well-being . . . and "in an effort for Assad to save face"!

And to our compatriot CEOs and managing directors in our Jewish mainstream media:  Thank you so much for covering up our asses once again!

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:58 | 3532282 Seize Mars
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One not-so-confusing aspect of this is to assume Putin is a "team player" if you take my meaning. In other words, he is just another tool of the Great Eye. So the "uh oh the Russians will intervene" angle is just that: another angle.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:01 | 3532291 Motorhead
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Indeed...another angle of that geometric figure wherein the 'eye' resides.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 13:59 | 3532285 The Joker
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Dear Mr. Putin,

These are not the drones you're looking for.

Sincerely,

Mr. Obama

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:01 | 3532287 q99x2
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NWO alert: Michelle Obama says gun violence has children fearing death everyday. Maybe if the bitch could get JN to explain why the DHS is buying billions of bullets the kids wouldn't be so scared.

As I remember before her husbands state of tyranny we used to duck and cover because the fucking nuclear bombs were going to hit any minute. And then her husbands gang of MIC world terrorists are blowing up the Middle East and beginning to destabilize the US in preparation of Balkanization of the United States of America.

I don't like insanity and lawlessness. Arrest Loyd Blankfein and Jamie Dimon. Kick Holder out of the country.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:26 | 3532356 IridiumRebel
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Id say hunger is a greater threat under these assholes. How many millions of kids does that affect?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 18:48 | 3532849 New_Meat
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SNAP, EBT, SSI, SSDI, ...

????

The so-called "AD COUNCIL" says 5 or 6 or 4 or 6 or ... percent of kidz are "affected by hunger", don't know the basis of that.

Michelle O says that kidz are too fat.

Mind boggles

- Ned

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 19:12 | 3532884 mick_richfield
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No,. it makes sense.

Hunger made them get fat.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:01 | 3532288 DeliciousSteak
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The message to Assad is clear. If the regime continues to move rockets across the border to aid Hezbollah, Israel willnot only strike at the immediate threat, but will deal serious body blows to the regime, severely hampering Assad's efforts to counter Syria's insurgency.

 

More like "if Assad doesn't step down voluntarily and allow the rebels to hang him, Israel and its allies will weaken his military to make it happen".

It's the exact same deal as in Libya, but now Israel can use the "weapon delivery" propaganda to justify their attacks. This way the west doesn't need to go through the international channels to declare a no-fly zone etc.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:05 | 3532302 Motorhead
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I think a phone call to Queen Lizzy is in order.  I mean, after all, Assad Jr. did get dinner and drinks some years ago courtesy of the Crown.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:16 | 3532293 W T F II
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It is interesting that the mainstream media is fairly quiet on this. So far. CNN was talkng Boston Bomber all morning.

Personally, I would guess that the Israelis will take out al their enemies and take a lot more territory for a permanent buffer. They will leave Iran alone. Then, the Mullahs in Tehran will have a decision to make with their Russian 'partners'.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:03 | 3532296 Blue Dog
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Israel was destroying weapons that were going to be used against them eventually. Good move on their part. Israel doesn't usually do enough to protect themselves. Idiotic criticisms of them that ignore the basic realities of Islam don't help either.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:19 | 3532335 LawsofPhysics
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Indeed, now we get to find out if Putin is a puppet or not, and maybe for whom.  Popcorn?  

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:48 | 3532691 Kirk2NCC1701
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I don't know about 'puppet'.  Maybe a nasty 'Peacock', who only takes on bears, tigers and dissenting individuals or small groups.  A real country with modern weapons and modern organizational skills is out of his bush league.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:19 | 3532337 W T F II
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I am with you Dog. What a lot of folks who are anti-Israel do not seem to comprehend is that, were there NO Israel, the Arabs would STILL wish to kill us all. Whether they cite pop-culture, pornography, interest on debt, eating pork, WHATEVER....!!

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:28 | 3532367 The Joker
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Freedoms, they hate us for our freedoms.  That's why we need to take away the right to protest, speech, and bear arms, for our safety.  To protect us from the arabs that hate us for our freedoms.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:44 | 3532410 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Arabs hate us because we are not Muslims.

No other reason. period. Islam is the reason no other.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:49 | 3532431 MeelionDollerBogus
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ALL major religions, Christianity, Judaism, Islam - hate everyone on Earth who does not bow down to their chosen religion and all are guilty of mass murder in the name of their gods. The only truth is atheism - non-religion and evidence.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:10 | 3532617 SilverRhino
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>>The only truth is atheism - non-religion and evidence.

Because atheist communists don't kill anyone right fucktard?


Sun, 05/05/2013 - 17:51 | 3532768 TNTARG
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Dear silverhino, it isn't about religion.

Remember Marx (you don't have to be a marxist to appreciate Marx). Religion is a tool used against people.

Everybody has the right to believe what they want or feel, it's called "dogmatism". Religious people believe their dogma. They don't need proofs or cientific evidence: they just believe.

Atheists deny the very idea of god's existence.

Agnostics ar skeptics. Agnostics stay tunned and wait for evidence. None so far that can be acknowledged.

But tend to respect everybody's believes about faith.

Perverse clever folks through History and nowadays have been using religion to dominate people. That's the political use of religion and that's what Marx meant.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:55 | 3532697 Kirk2NCC1701
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These three (mono-theistic) organized religions share a common thread:  They are all ABSOLUTIST.  Other faiths tend to be more "relativistic" and open to things like Growth, Discovery, Enlightenement.

Their (ET alien) 'Deity' is more of a "My way or the highway (to hell)" kind of guy.  What was the term... "a jealous God".  Now what would a supreme, all-knowing, all-powerful Ruler of the Universe and laws of nature be 'jealous' about?  Unless he isn't so "supreme?"  And don't forget, we don't have this from "God" directky, but from a long daisy-chain of semi-literate sheep herders of quetionable hygiene.

Cognitive dissonance is a bitch, I know.  We all want "the truth".  Except when it contradicts our world view. /s

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 17:39 | 3532760 TNTARG
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Agnosticism, my friend. It covers it all.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:53 | 3532446 W T F II
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And we let our women keep their clits...don't forget that 'reason'....

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:13 | 3532507 john39
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but have boys chop off their foreskin...    btw, female circumcision is not Islam... it is a tribal practice custom that predates Islam.  

http://www.minaret.org/fgm-pamphlet.htm

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 17:37 | 3532757 TNTARG
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But but but... I have muslim friends! I have jews friends! I have agnostic friends! I even have an evangelist sister (Hobbes help me!) and in our province we even host a Mormon community!

We're  in the fucking heaven  (or Paradise or whatever) and we didn't know ! I may even be one of the virgins!

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 19:15 | 3532890 mick_richfield
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Oh, you would know if you were a virgin wouldn't you?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:51 | 3532434 W T F II
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T J,

You are aptly named...The "Crown Princes" love their freedoms when they hit Cannes and Monte Carlo...don't 'ya know. It's great that we support those fuckers with half-blown up guys from Idaho, so a "Narco-State" like Afghanistan can thrive.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:31 | 3532657 Alpha Monkey
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It's great that we support those fuckers with half-blown up guys from Idaho, so a "Narco-State" like Afghanistan can thrive.

How else is the CIA supposed to rally off-balance sheet funds for destabilizing unfriendly regimes, or buying political puppets, or support a steady flow of inmates to the US industrial prison complex? 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:29 | 3532369 Bay of Pigs
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Was W T F I already taken?

Hang around 3 week newbie. Maybe you will actually learn something here.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:43 | 3532406 W T F II
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Bay,

Have you ever been to the Middle East? See how you make out livng in Tehran...!!

ps Nice Castro..

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:22 | 3532643 Bay of Pigs
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Tehran? Why not just move to Detroit and see how living in that shithole is? 

 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:46 | 3532416 Anusocracy
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The West is way ahead of 'the Arabs'.

They're not just wishing, they've been over there killing them for decades.

             Idiot.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:48 | 3532428 MeelionDollerBogus
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They never bothered before. Arabs tend only to try to shoot whitey when you go to THEIR land to kill them first. Then it's just flat out revenge. They don't hate your freedom - you don't even have any anymore in Murrikkka - they hate that you keep killing their children to take oil instead of buying it honestly.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:19 | 3532516 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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What were they selling before oil?

Oh yeah they were very big in slavery.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 19:17 | 3532898 mick_richfield
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I wonder what kind of businessmen ran that slave trade.

Why don't movies or something talk about that?

Hmmm.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:41 | 3535163 Precious
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That's not very Spielberg of you.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:09 | 3535253 mkkby
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That is true.  You don't see them attacking Canada, Swis and other societies that may offend their beliefs,  but don't get directly involved in their affairs.

Stop propping up kings that enslave their people all for oil, and terrorism stops.  Funny how we are agains evil dictators, except the ones that keep the oil flowing.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:04 | 3532300 besnook
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i can't wait for hezbollah and assad to show the idf why they should have stockpiled more diapers. idf will shit in their pants again, just like in 2006.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:17 | 3532323 LasVegasDave
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When the IDF takes off its handcuffs Hezbollah will be streaks on a glass parking lot and Nasrallah will be a slightly off color stain  stuck to his mistress' wall

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:20 | 3532339 Tortuga
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Ditto what LVDave said. Eat feces, haters.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:22 | 3532342 Precious
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Tough guy, huh?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:26 | 3532355 john39
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remind me again how the 33 Day worked out for the IDF Dave....  oh yeah, they had to crawl back to is-ra-el on their hands and knees in humiliation...  just a prelude for is going to happen in the very near future.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:54 | 3532450 Sabibaby
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Just think about what will happen to Jews in America and other parts of the world.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:04 | 3532482 LasVegasDave
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Jews in 'real' america are armed, and will not tolerate a pogrom.

As to losiNG the 33 day war, keep dreaming, goebbels. 

Hezbollah exists at the pleasure of Israel.  When the time comes, they and the Iranian mullahs will be vaporized

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 17:27 | 3532738 lolman
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You mean the ones pushing for gun control of Gentiles Bloomberg

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:13 | 3532627 The Heart
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Hummmm...so much turmoil today.

What if the henry kissinger remark that there would be no isreal in ten years was made with the knowledge that he knows how the plan was to trick them warmongers into attacking, and or nuking Damascus, thus turning every innocent good Jewish person in the world into the new nazi terrorists, a breed that had to be completely eliminated from the planet? So far, they seem to be falling into lock-step with being what they were created to be, the tool to start the final solution world war. Maybe what kissinger knows is, after the aggressors are used for the triggering of a greater war, the hammer will come down on their entire tribe world-wide. You know, just cleaning up loose ends and evidence and all those billions of souls on the planet. Typical bankster globalist world domination population reduction thinking.

And how about that Sun?

Imagine if mankind got together to save the planet from the incoming events, instead of being distracted with rumors of wars and doing exactly everything they can do according to the book that will lead to everybody's demise?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReevKbb2878&feature=related

How's your garden growing?

 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 17:26 | 3532735 TNTARG
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Holy shit! I'm open minded, but...

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:13 | 3532303 InspectorBird
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"At the very least, Israel has proven that it is willing to pick a side and go all in if it feels threatened."

Thats total BS! Its not about being "threatened" when this whole destabilization effort is sponsored and organized by them.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:07 | 3532306 Kaiser Sousa
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i notice that there is an increasing number of persons gloating about the actions of the Zionist entity and their much trumpeted "military superiority" to the Arab states...

as if this bodes well for the Zionist entity and its bigger bully brother the USA....

i am quite confident both will be sorely dissapointed with the results of their recent evil deeds and violations of international law.... just wait........

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:19 | 3532333 Tortuga
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The gloaters are just self-loathing Joooooooos. Not like the undocumented dimocrats, the Tarsheirpoeprf? brothers that just murdered the women and children in Boston.No worry.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:20 | 3532338 The Joker
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Exactly how and why would they be disappointed?  Who will implement that disappointment?  Are they disappointed with Iraq?  Afghanistan? Somalia?  Sudan?  Mali?  Lybia? Bosnia? Egypt?

I'm quite confident they will be pleased with the results, especially if Iran gets involved and just hands over an excuse to go after them.

By the way, seriously, what happened with that whole "charges were brought up against bush and obama for war crimes" thing we never heard of last week?  Anyone know?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:33 | 3532372 Kaiser Sousa
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"Exactly how and why would they be disappointed?  Who will implement that disappointment?"

toothless, broke ass former Superpower desperatley seeking to reshape the geo-political landscape yet again...

meanwhile bombs goin off in bagdhad...

US military personnel getting thier asses shot off in Afghanistan...

former veterans begging for change and food at your local freeway exits or increasingly goin on killing sprees back home in their "land of the free"...

destruction comes in many forms man...not all conventional or easily perceived...

just wait and see...


Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:37 | 3532390 The Joker
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I see,  and agree.  But differ slightly.  The american people will be disappointed, as you point out, but our fearless leaders won't. 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:46 | 3532402 Tortuga
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Don't you have some goat herding children to teach some hate to or how to put on that heavy vest with all those shiny steel marbles?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:54 | 3532449 Kaiser Sousa
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i green arrowed you out of compassion as it would seem you r in desperate need of affirmation and attention...

this despite the stupidity of your comment and failed attempt to insult one who you dont know...

now, i will ignore you...

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:21 | 3532525 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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international law

Slavery is not legal in country in the world.

Followers of Islam are buying and selling slaves as speak.

You do not get to pick and choose the laws you want unless you read the Koran.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:09 | 3532309 jtg
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So Israel is helping to bring the Muslim Brotherhood to power in Syria?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:23 | 3532344 The Joker
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Oooooh, the fucking irony.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:10 | 3532311 muleskinner
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Oh, goody!  Another war!  It's gonna be great!  Let's all sing along with Country Joe McDonald.  What are we waiting for?

 

Pardon me, but can we stop using the word 'Jew'?  I would appreciate it.  

 

If I were Jewish, I would resent a lot of the comments made about the people of Israel.

 

Please don't ignore the request to cease using the word 'Jew' or the word 'Jews', it will help make a difference.

 

Go ahead and use the word 'Islamofascists' as much as you want, though.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:16 | 3532327 Tortuga
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How do you feel about the use of the word JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOs. Or Joo. Mostly when the Jooos get tired of the bs and defend themselves though.

Lots of holocaust deniers on this site that hate the Joooooooooooooooos. Not counting Dimon and Masters or GS.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:24 | 3532345 IridiumRebel
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I call any and all that do this stupid shit fascists. Why discriminate.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:10 | 3532314 88888
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I really hope this is a catalyst to bring down the markets. The Black swan event. If Putin decides to back Syria, this will start a world war. If any other country had done what Israel has been doing, the UN would flip their shit. But the UN is as corrupt as  Corzine. 

It is not fair what Israel is doing, but Israel is backed by the USA, and controls that puppet you call Obama. 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:13 | 3532508 LawsofPhysics
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There's this little issue of an oil/gas field to develop.  The contrarian play is Russia has been on board all along and will do nothing.  Market takes off again on monday, especially MIC companies.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:48 | 3532576 Urban Redneck
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I don't disagree with the paradigm, but I think it's missing something.  Russia already has a substantial cash flow and market share in the gas market, so the benefit would be incremental.  and the opportunity cost can always be offset with a simple CTRL-P if need be.  Russia only has one port in the med, so the loss would be strategic.  

Find them a new long term port lease in the neighborhood, and all bets are off...

 

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:05 | 3532607 IridiumRebel
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Black Swans look great until you feel one. Wishing for a tumultuous world is not smart. I know the Masters of Universe are fucking us all, but a World War is nothing anyone should wish for under any circumstances and this is coming from someone who is ready for almost anything.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 19:24 | 3532919 mick_richfield
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I think the time for Putin to back Syria was when the fighters wer approaching, wasn't it?

Not after they dropped their payloads and left?

Isn't that what the Russian air-defense tech was for?

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:28 | 3535312 mkkby
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World war is decades away, assuming someone wants it now.  Wars take preparation and mobilization, which requires a vast manufacturing base, training, money, etc. 

Only a few countries have more than a token army.  Which is why all we've seen are mostly small skirmishes, or battles between large obsolete armies like Iran vs Iraq.  Israel will slug it out with Hezbollah or the Palestinians and not much more. 

Watch out when countries build up modern armies and the navies to move them around.  China in 30 years comes to mind.  For now they are just regional.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:17 | 3532319 earleflorida
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Real Deal? Israeli PM Netanyahu postpones trip to China to make room for security cabinet meeting @ RT_com http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/israeli-airstrikes-on-damascus 

scroll down

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:13 | 3532321 giggler123
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What ever Syrian choose to do, Iran will back them and they the West collectively will be facing war in at least 3 fronts, that includes Lebanon.  This is all without the Russians

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:30 | 3532371 LawsofPhysics
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Correct. The russians and Chinese will be all too willing to let these folks expend critical capital and resources.  Remember.  The Russians and Chinese are now the world's main creditor nations (banks).  

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:34 | 3532379 Tortuga
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The russians and chinese are now liars in the same league as our banksters. It's the 1% against against the rest of the world.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:52 | 3532438 LawsofPhysics
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No shit sherlock, it's been the 1% against everyone for several thousand years.  Does debt matter?  especially sovereign debt that can never be paid back?  That is the quadrillion dollar question.  Regardless, it will matter and on balance sheet, Russia and China are the world's creditors.  Many are not comfortable with this and it has very real implications, whether you like it or not is about as relevant as how much you like your landlord.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 01:30 | 3533490 Kirk2NCC1701
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The geopolitical chess game that the Russians are playing, can be called the "Matador gambit". You let the large and deadly bull wear and bleed himself out, then...

I think you can figure out who the Bull is in this analogy.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:37 | 3532382 earleflorida
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now you understand the civil disorder in shiite iraq regarding post-saddam's sunni minority and the dislike that both sunni and the overwhelming majority shiite's have for the oil-rich northern kurd's.

iran is shiite, as is iraq, with assad's Alawite [shiite offshoot] as a minority in a sunni v. christian/shiite/alawites

note: they all [toleratance, is the key word for existing  together] respect christian's other than the Dreaded Sunni... who hate them, period!!!

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 01:54 | 3533509 lakecity55
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+1. There is already a brigade of Iranian paramilitary troops in country. Iran is free to send as many irregular or regular forces as Assad needs. If Iran is really behind Assad, we should see more Iranian troops airlifted in. If I were a Iran Mullah, I would order in a couple of divisions and kick the AQ ass out.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:17 | 3532330 IridiumRebel
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Dirka Dirka, Preppers are stupid
Dirka Dirka, Preppers are stupid
Dirka Dirka, Preppers are stupid
Dirka Dirka, Preppers are stupid
Dirka Dirka, Preppers are stupid

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:44 | 3532396 IridiumRebel
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I'm being sarcastic. Gotta fuckin spell shit out to people. We are fucked.

EDIT: FUCK YOU.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:03 | 3532477 Sabibaby
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ooh... poor baby... your Internet points are going down :(

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:34 | 3532556 IridiumRebel
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You're right, I should focus on antisemitic rants and the hope for a nuclear future. THEN! I'll get those needed points. Nothing brings out the ZH assholes like a story on Israel.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 19:55 | 3532993 Manipuflation
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IR, I like your writing.  I would not worry if the bulk does not understand you.  You already have all of the points you will ever need to be on the "inside".

 

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 01:50 | 3533505 lakecity55
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Anti-Zionist rants.

Corrected.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:38 | 3532562 Tortuga
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Well, i'm still in the dark. I like sex and all, but what/who the hell is a Dirka.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:01 | 3532601 IridiumRebel
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It's from Team America.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 01:34 | 3533494 Kirk2NCC1701
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Obscure. Equally obscure = 'race', as in 'car race'.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:45 | 3532413 Rory_Breaker
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Everything OK mate?

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 14:48 | 3532425 IridiumRebel
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I'm fine, how are you today? It's beautiful outside.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 15:56 | 3532363 NuYawkFrankie
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Well whaddya know?

Who woulda thunk? Who coulda figgered?

 

I see that that shitty little country in the MiddleEast - along with its servile, butt-licking Amen Corner and Israeli 5th Column a bit closer to home - is up to it's usual tricks:

Trying to kick-start World War III

No doubt, in large part, to deflect attention away from its previous - and on-going crimes (once again, a bit closer to home) - which even some of the dumbest of  Dumb Yanks & thickest of Thick Brits are beginning to aXe questions about.

Sun, 05/05/2013 - 16:11 | 3532599 akak
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Onward Christian Soldiers!

Killing ragheads for Jesus since 632 AD.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 01:48 | 3533502 lakecity55
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Actually, everything is going according to the plan laid out in The Revelation of St John.

I don't think we can do anything but sit back as God does His gig.

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