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David Rosenberg - The Potemkin Rally

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Gluskin Sheff's David Rosenberg exclaims we are currently are witnessing the Potemkin rally (the phrase Potemkin villages was originally used to describe a fake village, built only to impress). The term, however, is now used, typically in politics and economics, to describe any construction (literal or figurative) built solely to deceive others into thinking that some situation is better than it really is. Ben Bernanke, recently proclaimed “The Hero” by Atlantic Magazine, is the “Wizard of Potemkin.” Since 2009 Bernanke has engage in massive monetary experiments. These experiments lead to future dislocations. There is no doubt that the Fed wants inflation. The problem is they may get more than they ask for. We are currently witnessing the slowest economic recovery of any post-WWII period. However, It is important to challenge your thought process. Read material that challenges your views. Here are David's rules...


Via Lance Roberts of Street Talk Live blog,

In Part V of the series of reports from the 10th annual Strategic Investment Conference, presented by Altegis Investments and John Mauldin, David Rosenberg presents a rather shocking shift from his primary thesis over the last 3 years.

You can read the previous presentations by clicking the links below.


Part I: Niall Ferguson – The Great Degeneration

Part II: Jeff Gundlach – Why Own Bonds At All

Part III: A. Gary Shilling – Six Realities In An Age Of Deleveraging

Part IV: Mohamed El-Erian – Putting It All Together

David Rosenberg is the Chief Economist and Strategist for Gluskin-Sheff. Here are his views:

“I have good news and bad news.


First the bad news.   I am getting divorced.


That’s right…my 25 year love affair with the bond market is over.


The good news is that Gary Shilling and Lacy Hunt have said they will stay friends with me.”

The Potemkin Rally

{StreettalkLive Note:  At the end of David's speech he stated that this is a "coffee table" presentation.  This view will likely take some time to develop and that from time to time we will need to reveiw it to see where we are.   This should not be taken as something that he expects to happen tomorrow.}

We currently are witnessing the Potemkin rally. For a quick background the phrase Potemkin villages was originally used to describe a fake village, built only to impress. According to the story, Russian minister Grigory Potemkin who led the Crimean military campaign erected fake settlements along the banks of the Dnieper River in order to fool Empress Catherine II during her visit to Crimea in 1787.

The term, however, is now used, typically in politics and economics, to describe any construction (literal or figurative) built solely to deceive others into thinking that some situation is better than it really is.

Ben Bernanke, recently proclaimed “The Hero” by Atlantic Magazine, is the “Wizard of Potemkin.”

Since 2009 Bernanke has engage in massive monetary experiments. These experiments lead to future dislocations. The chart below shows that for every dollar increase in the Fed’s balance sheet it has translated into $1 of NYSE market capitalization to GDP.


There is no doubt that the Fed wants inflation. The problem is they may get more than they ask for.

The Potemkin Economic Recovery

We are currently witnessing the slowest economic recovery of any post-WWII period.

However, It is important to challenge your thought process. Read material that challenges your views.   Here are my rules.


Bob Farrell once stated that

"...when all experts agree something else is bound to happen."

The reason my love affair has ended with bonds is that deflation has become the consensus view. Take a look at the following chart which shows that 80% of shortfall in growth is caused by slower potential.


There has been a secular decline in Potential GDP growth.

Here is a question for you. How does 1.8% GDP growth rate over the last year drop the unemployment rate by 60 basis points from 8.1 to 7.5%? That math simply doesn’t work.

The growth rate of GDP has fallen significantly and this should not be ignored.   Historically, the economy could grow at 4% without creating inflation. With the current makeup of the economy today that is no longer possible. This is why we are likely witnessing the early stages of the transition from deflation to inflation and the end of my “love affair” with bonds.

One of the factors that will be supportive of an economic push will be the end of the household deleveraging cycle. I think that the end of the deleveraging cycle is about 2 years away. As you can see in the next slide borrowing has started to rise once again and will be a tailwind for the economy. This has been the primary goal of the Fed’s QE programs - boost asset prices to stimulate consumer confidence and borrowing. There is a problem though.


We have the weakest growth in the private capital stock in 60 years.   Business spending as a share of GDP is at recession levels


While consumer confidence may improve as asset prices are inflated. It is not the same for CEO’s who are unlikely to make a commitment to the economy anytime soon.   The NFIB survey shows that government regulations are a top concern that is inhibiting investment.

With capital formation low, which drags on productivity, it keeps the labor market weak.  The labor market is plagued by a structural shift in its makeup and type of jobs available.

There are currently more than 90 million people outside the labor force and the available labor supply is shrinking.


Here is the reality. In the last four years we have created 3 million jobs while more 9 million people left the labor force.

The latest employment report showed a rise in employment and a fall in the employment rate. However, the household report showed a surge in the number of “self-employed” – these are individuals who are likely working out of their basement with no customers.

If you take a look at the JOLTS survey you will see that companies are looking for workers. Job openings have been on the rise. However, as we have seen in the recent NFIB surveys they cannot find the skilled workers to fill those jobs. This is why layoffs and discharges are at record lows.  


Streettalk Note: This is known as “’Labor Hoarding” which is also why we are seeing jobless claims fall without substantive increases in employment. Fewer layoffs leads to lower claims but full-time employment relative to the population remains close to 2009 lows.

Here is my contention. At 7.5 % unemployment we are likely much closer to full employment than the Fed believes. The number of firings is 10% lower now than it was when the unemployment rate was at 4.4%. Think about that.

This is why the workweek has begun to expand. Businesses are running at minimum levels of employment so they are working current employment longer. This is leading to rising wages which is one of the key components of inflation.


Productivity growth is heading lower because of lack of capital formation. However, unit labor costs are rising which, as I said, has a high correlation to inflation.  The bad news is that rising wage costs negatively impact profit margins.


The Fed funds rate has been pushed to zero. During that same period the Fed’s balance sheet has exploded. Just FYI – the fed’s balance sheet has jumped by 40% at an annual rate in the last 3 months which is why the market has hit new highs.   The bottom line is that the Fed’s balance sheet is replacing the fed funds rate.   Ben wants assets to go up to stimulate confidence.


However, the most compelling argument for stocks – yield spread.

But think about this - junk bonds are trading with a yield of 5% - really?  That’s where AAA treasuries were 5 years ago.  What is that telling you about investor risk taking?

Here is another question?  What correlates with bond yields the closest? You guessed it - Fed policy.  


The Fed has been talking about the Journey since 2009.   Now they are talking about the destination with specific targets on inflation and employment.   However, the problem for the Fed is that they may get more than they wish for.   When inflation begins to rise it is extremely hard to stop.

While I agree that the Fed should be stimulative…the extent of the stimulative action so far has been too radical. This will lead to inflation in the future.

Currently, the U.S. is sporting a near 6% output gap. The problem is that an output gap of nearly 6% doesn’t correspond with a 1.6% inflation rate.   At that level we should be seeing negative inflation rates. From my work I think that the output gap is more likely 2-3% which means that the Fed should be tapering off their actions now…rather than later.

Here is the problem currently. The real fed funds rate is very negative. The last time this occurred was when Author Burns was Fed chairman. The following two decades were not kind.


Furthermore, negative real rates in the past...


...have always led to asset bubbles.


The reason I am getting divorced from my love affair with bonds is that when inflation eventually rears its head - those individuals long high yield bonds, and unhedged, will lose.

My view since joining Gluskin-Sheff has been “Safety & Income At A Reasonable Price” which I am now shifting to “H.I.R.P - Hedged Inflation Risk Protection.” 

These are the areas that should perform the best should this longer term view of the world begin to develop.

  • Real Estate
  • TIPS
  • Art/Collectibles
  • Gold/Silver
  • Banks
  • Staples
  • Energy
  • Metals
  • Agriculture
  • Credit Arbitrage
  • Long-Short Strategies
  • Volatility
  • Lonnie/Aussie/Kiwi

Equity Sector Selection In A Cost-Push Stagflation Environment

  • Staples
  • Consumer Discretionary
  • Utilities
  • Telecom
  • Cable/Media
  • Oil & Gas
  • Industrial Conglomerates /Electrical Power
  • Road & Railroads
  • Machinery
  • Airlines
  • Basic Materials
  • Precious metals
  • Specialty chemicals
  • Paper packaging.



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Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:42 | 3534877 SheepDog-One
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All markets green....they give a fuck Simple Jack out frolicking in the corn fields smashin butterflies with a wooden mallet. 

Simple Jack (2009) Full Extended Trailer - Official/High Quality - YouTube

Anyway...yea we know it's fake we've been saying that month after month...the part I'm wondering about is how it all flies apart into a million pieces, arms legs and asses strewn everywhere, like some Rube Goldberg-ian contraption flying down the hiway at 200 mph when it hits a pothole? 

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:46 | 3534919 kaiserhoff
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I don't know how, SD.  There are a million possible triggers,

  but when... that's when we all least expect it.  Not a good time to be a politician.


Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:47 | 3534930 fonzannoon
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you seem to be lumping politicians in with "we". big mistake. this may be the best time in history to be a politician.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:51 | 3534944 kaiserhoff
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Not when the shit hits the fan.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:53 | 3534951 Manthong
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A Maestro followed by a Hero…   we are so very, very fortunate.

I feel like breaking open some bubbly.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:09 | 3535250 macholatte
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the part I'm wondering about is how it all flies apart into a million pieces


Maybe it's more like surgery. "THEY" professionally take the subject apart, piece by piece and feed on it for a while. But keeping some life in the carcass is what's important. Otherwise, they lose their food supply. So the technique is to not allow it to fly apart or get gangrene and die.  Slow motion train wreck is really what's happeneing.

IMHO we will look back on this day 5 years from now and little will have changed.  The poor will be poorer, the rich richer and the politicians will still be lying to save their own asses with central banks firmly in control.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:21 | 3535288 Fish Gone Bad
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How it all falls apart is the fruit flies in a jar (with fruit) analogy.  Originally there were fruit flies flitting around, eating fruit (other countries buying our debt).  Then a lid is placed on the jar (countries stop buying our debt).  The fruit rots a bit more, fruit flies party til their pants come off.  More babies are born (prosperity) but the flies can not get out and there is limited oxygen and limited food (monetizing debt).  Eventually the usable oxygen is depleted, the food is no longer available or inedible, and the babies are either dead or perhaps eaten by the unforseen bacteria, yeast and mold.  Meanwhile, outside the jar, life goes on.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:42 | 3535341 macholatte
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the fruit flies in a jar


OK..... the flies get technology and print fruit, recycle oxygen, invent birth control and war.

Life goes on inside the jar.




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Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:54 | 3534955 fonzannoon
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the shit has been hitting the fan for years. just not their fan.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:11 | 3535256 ParkAveFlasher
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Just their shit~!

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:56 | 3535402 prains
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it's a mobius shit log

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:04 | 3535007 Stoploss
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Dave, any idea how long the HIRP out breaks last??

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:58 | 3534948 McMolotov
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It's not just the market that's fake, it's the entire country.

People are buying iShit and taking out excessively long-term loans for their new Government Motors automobiles as a way to keep up appearances. Meanwhile, we're experiencing record numbers month after month for food stamp enrollment, and people are increasingly turning to disability claims as their unemployment runs out.

Fake, fake, fake. This imaginary debt-fueled prosperity will collide with reality at some point, and it will be epic.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:33 | 3535132 Spastica Rex
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like when Omar Sharif finally catches up with Julie Christie?

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:35 | 3535138 prains
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and the only thing that won't be fake will be the TPTB front running the coming implosion

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:25 | 3535304 Fish Gone Bad
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Frontrunning will not be equal.  This is where the real money players shine.  Those informed on the inside will do fine.  The big entity that fails will be carved up and eaten by the likes of JPM. 

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:40 | 3535159 Hopeless for Change
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"Will you walk into my parlour?" said the Spider to the Fly...

$699 stock trading course for the low low price of 25 bucks cheap on Living Social.  Such a deal!!!!! 

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:41 | 3534906 kaiserhoff
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Real estate should perform well?

Not in Illinois, Florida, or Virginia, three states I know quite well.  Take a look at carrying costs, demographics, the insane premiums along the blue ridge, your new illegal neighbors in Fort Meyers or Orlando, and think again.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:27 | 3535104 spastic_colon
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he must mean real estate in off balance sheet portfolios.....cuz most folks think in nominal terms, what does he think will happen to nominal real estate prices when rates rise?

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:56 | 3535206 Professorlocknload
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On RE, I beg to differ in Portland, Silicon Valley and San Diego.

Looking at Phoenix about now, as well, specifically Scottsdale. (Old demographics go for the arid Sun Belt)

It's Location, Location, Cap Rate.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:19 | 3535286 kaiserhoff
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The West does seem to have some life to it, or maybe it's just the flippers.

Doesn't everything out there depend on California wheezing along as usual?

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:44 | 3534910 Yen Cross
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    You can tell what a ' utopian unicorn ranch' the markets have become, when you go over to RTRS or BBG and their message boards are full koolaid swilling retards discussing what color they paint their toenails in an article about Unemployment Benefits.

     What a buch of dumbshit,(first generation to walk upright) ignoramus idiots with the IQs of fruit bats...

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:48 | 3534932 DeadFred
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Don't be so rude to fruit bats

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:12 | 3535260 francis_sawyer
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Howz about 'Potemkin Village Idiots'...

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:43 | 3534914 dontgoforit
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I read this and somehow feel like I've been punched in the mouth.  Real estate?  Really?

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:43 | 3534915 Cursive
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Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:46 | 3534920 Shizzmoney
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we are currently are witnessing the Potemkin rally (the phrase Potemkin villages was originally used to describe a fake village, built only to impress)

It's like China, except with lube.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:32 | 3535120 aminorex
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standard & potemkin 500

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:45 | 3534921 Zymurguy
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"We are currently witnessing the slowest economic recovery of any post-WWII period."


Flawed assumption... we are not in a recovery whatsoever.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:46 | 3534924 fonzannoon
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yes rates are going to rise as bond traders decide that rather than banking those big checks the would rather blow their brains out and take the exonomy and monetary system down with them. 


NIRP Bitchez, now please sell your bonds to Rosie who knows it's coming.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:46 | 3534925 DeadFred
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Grigory Potemkin tried to impress out the Empress with fake waterfronts and his name will be famous for centuries. In the year 2313 will people talk about the Bernank or will history follow the route of not saying the Devil's name out loud.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:55 | 3534961 Groundhog Day
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The history books will never have a banker at fault.  They will read how , due to a terrorist organisation like Al Caida, the US had to spend trillions of dollars protecting the sheep (although I read i am 8x's more likely to killed by a cop then a terrorist) and the debt overload caused the system to implode. 

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:52 | 3535386 prains
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Bernank isn't building fake villages, he's burning the real ones to the ground everytime he pushes Ctrl-P

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 18:06 | 3535613 Law97
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Don't you mean Al CIAda?

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:46 | 3534926 saycheeeese
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asset price inflation is good for the central bankers, the bankers, the tax man and eventually the asset holders....      as long as consumption inflation is.. tame.  So the business model is to steal from the savers and disciplined people in favour of the bankster and the ones who could not afford to leverage but did.

making bubbles... is the way of life.. until when?

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:48 | 3534929 Tie-The-Tubes
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NY Fed even stated that excess liquidity is impeding on market efficiency; shit?!

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:48 | 3534934 Groundhog Day
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Could Rosie throwing in the towel on Bonds be the contrarian indicator for equities?

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:52 | 3534946 fonzannoon
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a guy smart enough to know interest rates can never rise betting on a rise in rates? I call BS.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:21 | 3535074 gwar5
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Answer to your question from yesterday: Yes, you can take physical possession of PMs in a self directed IRA.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:26 | 3535094 fonzannoon
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Hey thanks gwar...interesting I thought the had to be held at some registered custodian or something.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:15 | 3535272 Professorlocknload
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I can't find much on holding physical in my possession in an IRA. Can you provide a link?

All I can find requires a Trustee hold them. Everything else states I can take possession after retirement age is reached, but is treated as a cash out (Or distribution)


Mon, 05/06/2013 - 18:02 | 3535605 Auntie Lo
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Other people know more than I do on this. When I looked into it, it seemed like you had to set up an LLC(?) for a self-directed IRA. Then as trustee, you decide what to invest in. Seems like it's more sophisticated than any one in my town can handle, no one i asked here knew how to do it!

I don't have a lot of assets and decided that I would just pull my funds and pay the taxes. I'm old enough that there is no longer a penalty in addition to taxes.

Tue, 05/07/2013 - 00:20 | 3536639 Professorlocknload
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Thanks for that, Lo. I think the LLC set up is also a way to hold RE in a self directed IRA.

I'll keep digging.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 18:16 | 3535646 spine001
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I read long time ago that you can even have real state properties in your IRA. The key was to find a trustee that allowed it. It may be similar with Gold.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:04 | 3535235 Professorlocknload
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Dunno, fonz. Hendry stated along the lines of 'Some $trillion sometime will do it.'

If the owner of the currency wants inflation, I wouldn't stand in front of that steam roller.

I'm going to have to lighten up the GNMA's a tad here. Been a good run. Why tempt fate?



Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:10 | 3535254 fonzannoon
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If anyone anywhere wanted inflation they would break that 85 bil a month up and send each one of us a check.

Instead they will give that money to the banks and those banks will buy up everything in sight as each of us coughs it up to them as we deflate ourselves to the poorhouse. Then they massively revalue the currency overnight and that precious inflation they were trying so hard to get will hit US like nothing we have ever seen.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:39 | 3535337 Professorlocknload
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fonz@ " they would break that 85 bil a month up and send each one of us a check."

I would expect just that at the end of this, and that being sooner rather than later. It will be indirect, through cash infusions into EBT or SS or Disability or FNMA or VA or all of the above?

But it will be here as soon as they get the psychology flipped to critical mass. Those around me are already purchasing new vehicles and looking at RE again.  

When the liars loans re-emerge, it will be on. Here's a puff piece now;

And judging our new Fannie Chief, I'd expect another paper storm soon.

Seems to me, for most intents and purposes, the Fed is now the Lender of Only Resort here. Sky's the limit?

1. Originate 'em.

2. Buy 'em back.

3. Burn 'em.

When it's all "In House" there are no rules, no?

ps. The several construction contractors I maintain contact with here in the west are all booked through summer. Humm?

I'll try and check back here later this evening for any appreciated comment.



Mon, 05/06/2013 - 17:23 | 3535497 fonzannoon
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Great comment. I wish I had one back for you. All I see is the big money grabbing everything in sight. The poor just checking out of society and half the middle class trying to speculate and ride the bubble and the other half clutching everything with dear life......and it just seems to go on with no end.

Tue, 05/07/2013 - 00:28 | 3536649 Professorlocknload
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For sure, it's uncharted rekoning here. These psycho's are capable of most anything.

I've been light risk for sometime now and don't plan on exposing a thin dime to this chaos.


Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:55 | 3534962 Tsunami Wave
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Off Topic.. But The Economist has come out with a slanderous hit-piece on Nigel Farange and the UKIP's recent victories:

Title: Send in the Clowns!

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:01 | 3534989 prains
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everyone with a brain seems to have the diagnosis down pat. Shit Will Hit Fan. Yes doctor we know those warts on his balls will not end well. What's the best wart removal ointment with the least amount of blood? And no i don't want to "invest"

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:14 | 3535011 Bam_Man
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Rosie may be right about future "stagflation", but I'm not with him on the bearish bond call. And I won't be for a while yet.

ZIRP is 4-ever (or until the current monetary system collapses, whichever comes first). Guvvamint Bonds will always provide much more yield than a bank savings account in a ZIRP environment. Slowly but surely, deposit account holders will migrate to government bonds, just like they did in Japan. And then they will stay there. Yes, eventually they will see their purchasing power destroyed by inflation. But we are still in early innings here. Bank depositors are just beginning to make the switch to bonds. Bernanke knows this. That's why there are $TRILLIONS in excess reserves sitting at the Fed. They are insurance against the slow-motion "bank run" that ZIRP 4-ever will eventually produce. That slow-motion bank run will be very bullish for bonds while it is happening.



Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:22 | 3535077 dracos_ghost
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It will speed up when we adopt the ECB modelled negative interest bank CD. Gonna force everyone like you said into Treasuries -- or their mattresses. Must feed the bureaucrats at all cost. Banks already thinking about penalties for withdrawals.

Bigger question is , is this the NWO master plan or is it a bunch of rats jumping off the Titanic because this Globalist NEW CAPITALISM(Sovereign Wealth Fund bullshit) has shit the bed.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:05 | 3535170 Bam_Man
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It will also speed up when bank depositors see some of their friends or family get "bailed-in" or "Corzined" in a Money Market Mutual Fund. Seeing 50% (or more) of your bank account vaporized overnight will be a quite a "wake-up call".

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:53 | 3535195 Groundhog Day
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also look at where cash now sits in brokerage accounts(which are supposed to provide 400k of cash protection) at the TBTF's.  In treasury money markets by likes of JPM and WFC.  It isn't bad enough they give you .02 in the fund and they have fees of .68, WHEN YOU ARE CORZINED they will say your money in the brokerage account was not in cash but in Treasuries, so should have read the fine print in the disclosure we sent you,


Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:18 | 3535064 gwar5
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Doomsday Rally. Next time it crashes it won't come back in my lifetime, if ever. Who needs a stock market when Central Banks can just print money?

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:45 | 3535354 Professorlocknload
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Most affirmed! It will be the Crack-up Boom.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:25 | 3535095 taketheredpill
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What about Breakevens on longer-dated TIPS. Until the BEs drop under 2% I can't see Deflation as being priced in.





Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:30 | 3535113 madcows
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I disagree.  Wages aren't rising.  They are falling, and have been for a while.  People aren't getting raises, but they are working longer hours... that's a falling wage... and it doesn't even include wage loss to inflation.

I believe we are in an inflationary environment due to all the Central Bank printing, but that hasn't translated to wage growth.  Whether or not wage growth is needed to fuel big time inflation, I don't know.  My instinct tells me this all ends badly with an inflationary crash.  Inflation expands due to printing, while the real economy shrinks due to lack of wages and cost of living increases.  In the end, the bottom falls out when noone can make payments anymore.

Gotta go find me a bunker before the noone accepts the dollar anymore.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:40 | 3535155 smartstrike
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Good stuff!

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:49 | 3535189 Uncle Zuzu
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This is old baker's dozen. New baker's dozen is 11 items. #gloom

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:53 | 3535197 mayhem_korner
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The reason I am getting divorced from my love affair with bonds is that when inflation eventually rears its head - those individuals long high yield bonds, and unhedged, will lose.


ummm...those individuals long US Ts will lose also.  'Course, the 10yr effectively is a junk bond at this point.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:55 | 3535208 RKDS
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The rich are getting what they want and that's all that matters.

Tue, 05/07/2013 - 08:52 | 3537129 madcows
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Free money from the FED?

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:57 | 3535212 Hongcha
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Long TZA right here, right now.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 18:07 | 3535620 Awakened Sheeple
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Welcome back to the den ;)

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:09 | 3535249 orangegeek
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"... We are currently witnessing the slowest economic recovery of any post-WWII period..."


Recovery?  There's no recovery.  It's a clusterfuck effort to keep markets (and pensions) up in value.  The economy has diverged from markets and is already in the tank.


The reality is that deflation with a smidge of market collapse is pending - all the Ben and Barry spend is delaying the inevitable.


48M Americans on food stamps - wwwweeeeeee!!!!  More fun than a stick.


Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:12 | 3535258 OpTwoMistic
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What an insane market.  BAC,  bankrupt POS,  up 5.5% today.  Don't care what the reasoning was.

I expect Buffett had a cum hemmorrhage.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:13 | 3535263 Fiat Burner
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I still think yields, at least Treasuries, have a lot further to drop.  I see another round of deflation coming before any inflation induced currency crisis, even with the current amount of QE . A bursting junk bond bubble will probably just blow the Treasury bubble even bigger.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:21 | 3535292 besnook
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once the multiplier ticks up inflation will drive it and prices to the moon while impoverishing 50% of the people.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:23 | 3535297 Zigs
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About four months ago I remember listening to an interview with Alan Greenspan.  It was obvious he was going to great lengths to set up the "birdie" for everyone to watch.  Can't remember how many times he said to "watch the Dow."

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:30 | 3535317 electricgorilla
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Go Long! The FED must keep printing to keep faith in this market or shit hits the fan and we have a collateral circle jerk....Ben is gonna make a tulip bubble out of this market.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:43 | 3535347 q99x2
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I have a customer but no basement.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:54 | 3535392 FreeNewEnergy
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Deflation will continue until the real estate market actually sets real values.

Real estate (generally) is still overvalued by about 20-30%, more or less, depending on where you live, work, play. Here in upstate NY foreclosures are accelerating, not declining, but the best deals are being snatched up pretty quickly by the vultures.

Upstate NY (Syracuse, Rochester, Buffalo) was not largely affected by the sub-prime boom-bust, so we are now simply seeing the effects of a bad economy. People have hung on as long as they could, the banks delayed through the robo-signing mess, but now there is no job creation and it's a buyer's real estate market, though demand is limited by high standards and lack of capital.

Jobs fuel housing and without jobs, housing has to suffer. The suffering has only begun. Take away the Bernanke bucks and the depression would be full-blown and nationwide. It's coming, and we've not seen the worst. This is oversupply meeting slack demand and that can only end in prices going down. I say, deflate away, ruin the Fed and off to bed.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 17:03 | 3535426 Zer0head
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Rosie not sure H.I.R.P - Hedged Inflation Risk Protection.”  will catch on to the same extent as dickheads BRIC's acronym but HIRPies is catchy none the less - (obviously some brilliant marketeers at Gluskin). Anyway to your credit you have been on the correct side of the bond market from the get go so this is a monumental change

In terms of collectables I was cleaning out my office down in the cellar over the weekend and came across some of your predictions for the equity markets since 666 -- what do you figure they might be worth as collectors items?

Tue, 05/07/2013 - 01:20 | 3536707 No More Bubbles
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While I agree that the Fed should be stimulative…the extent of the stimulative action so far has been too radical. This will lead to inflation in the future.

FUCK YOU ROSEY!  I'm so sick of motherfuckers talking about "inflation in the future" - when WE HAVE IT RIGHT NOW!!!  Don't these fucking eCONomists eat?  Do they not ever buy groceries or pump gas?

Tue, 05/07/2013 - 08:27 | 3537056 pavman
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Commuting is so last millenium. Learn from the movie War Games...the only real way to win is not to play.

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