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Meet "The Liberator": The World’s First Fully 3D-Printed Firearm

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Submitted by Michael Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

3D-printing, like decentralized crypto currencies, have the potential to change the world in which we live in extraordinary ways. Ways that are almost inconceivable at this point given we are so early in the game.  More than anything else, these technologies can empower the individual like never before, and I think that is generally a very good thing.

I first covered the impact of 3D-printing on the firearms industry in January in my post 3D-Printing Meets the 2nd Amendment, where I discussed Defense Distributed’s success in printing magazines for semi-automatic weapons.  At the time, their next major goal was to print a fully functioning firearm. They have now done just that.

 

 

From Forbes:

Eight months ago, Cody Wilson set out to create the world’s first entirely 3D-printable handgun.

 

Now he has.

 

Early next week, Wilson, a 25-year University of Texas law student and founder of the non-profit group Defense Distributed, plans to release the 3D-printable CAD files for a gun he calls “the Liberator,” pictured in its initial form above. He’s agreed to let me document the process of the gun’s creation, so long as I don’t publish details of its mechanics or its testing until it’s been proven to work reliably and the file has been uploaded to Defense Distributed’s online collection of printable gun blueprints at Defcad.org.

 

All sixteen pieces of the Liberator prototype were printed in ABS plastic with a Dimension SST printer from 3D printing company Stratasys, with the exception of a single nail that’s used as a firing pin. The gun is designed to fire standard handgun rounds, using interchangeable barrels for different calibers of ammunition.

 

Technically, Defense Distributed’s gun has one other non-printed component: the group added a six ounce chunk of steel into the body to make it detectable by metal detectors in order to comply with the Undetectable Firearms Act. In March, the group also obtained a federal firearms license, making it a legal gun manufacturer.

 

Of course, Defcad’s users may not adhere to so many rules. Once the file is online, anyone will be able to download and print the gun in the privacy of their garage, legally or not, with no serial number, background check, or other regulatory hurdles. “You can print a lethal device,” Wilson told me last summer. “It’s kind of scary, but that’s what we’re aiming to show.”

Oh, and you can now purchase 3D-printers at Staples for $1,299.  

Full article here.

 


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Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:14 | Link to Comment Precious
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Just enough bullets to shoot yourself in the head one time, or in someone's recent euphamism, "fully automatic".

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:27 | Link to Comment malikai
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Don't knock it. This is a very powerful thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FP-45_Liberator

One of those things in the hands of a dedicated french or polish resistance fighter could get you a mauser or two and a bunch of clips next.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:29 | Link to Comment Fukushima Sam
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If they can't stop you from downloading pirated media, how will they stop this?

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:38 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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Inside of 15 feet, give me a carbon-fiber knife.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:39 | Link to Comment Precious
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I'll be waiting for Version 2.0 of the CAM files which will supposedly print ammo.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:40 | Link to Comment iDealMeat
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What

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:11 | Link to Comment Precious
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In reponse to the new printed-gun technology, Representative Steve Israel (D - Huntington) will be introducing legislation to ban anything that can be pointed at people.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:11 | Link to Comment ratso
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Can you say "ZIP GUN"!

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:23 | Link to Comment Stackers
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You can also carve a spear out of tree branch and make knives arrows out of rocks.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:31 | Link to Comment James_Cole
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The liberator is a funny historical footnote, more useful was their ar magazine:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/01/14/gunsmiths-3d-print-...

Anyway, a lot of obsession over the 3-d printed guns in the press but there are lots of relatively easy ways to make guns (not an advanced technology).

Far more interesting is the promise of 3-d printing for more sophisticated devices through crowd-sourcing, the inevitable innovation breakthroughs will be incredible & will force a rethink of many things, including economy (so long as .gov doesn't manage to slam the boot down). 

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:15 | Link to Comment fonestar
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This is sweet... gonna download me a Liberator along with the Iraqi War redacted documents from Wikileaks and maybe some Mossad agents too...

Satoshi + Cody Wilson + Wikileaks........  Liberation Day!

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:37 | Link to Comment jbvtme
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can you make a box cutter or a pressure cooker?

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:01 | Link to Comment Precious
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Bloomberg approves so long as it holds less than 32 ounces of lead.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 18:20 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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The early adopters will of course be sex toy companies.

I am Chumbawamba.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:26 | Link to Comment Triggernometry
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Keep your pants on, this is just a prototype.  I work with 3D printing and CAD on a regular basis, there are limitations to what can be printed, furthermore 3D print material is notoriously brittle.  Yes, the compounds have come a long way since inception, but we're still talking about plastics which break down when consistently subjected to heat, sunlight, or high mechanical loads.  Plastics are so named due to their plasticity, not exactly a property you want in a firearm you depend on to save your life.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:30 | Link to Comment CH1
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3D printing UTTERLY ROCKS all the same.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:44 | Link to Comment Mad Mohel
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It's a nice technology, but it's really only suitable for tinkering and prototyping. Lately I have seen many " firearm hobbyists" inquiring about getting set up to learn 3D printing. The funny thing is the learning curve is about the same as using a lathe and a mill. And with the "old tech" you can actually make stuff that won't blow your fingers off or put your eye out.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:00 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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 I have a mini lathe, could make a barrel and reciever (in any caliber) in steel for that thing in 30 minutes, with practice or a little automation could get that down to 10 minutes each. With a little tinkering could make a jig to rifle it too, an operation that takes about 15 seconds.

It's really primitive technology folks.

Keep in mind they used to make "Damascus" shotgun barrels by wrapping iron wire around a metal rod, hammering it and then pulling out the rod. You can laugh now but in a pinch that fucker would still blow your head off. In some ways it was the precursor to 3D printing.

Anyone can make a handgun or shotgun. You don't need a 3D printer either. Everything you need is at the hardware store, you can buy a lathe online for $500, and you can make all the handguns you want in your garage, probably make three day if you got into a production run.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:31 | Link to Comment johnQpublic
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an old radio antenna will make a fine one round barrel for a .22

nail, rubber band, duct tape

of course we will need to ban all of this for the sake of the children

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:44 | Link to Comment Headbanger
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Ban all radio stations immediatewly!

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:47 | Link to Comment Headbanger
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That's IMMEIATELY damnit!

God dang cheap scotch again..

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 17:16 | Link to Comment Overfed
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The beauty is that you can prototype it out in plastic, make sure it'swhat you want, then copy it in steel. Also great to prototype bucking blocks for forming mags out of sheetmetal.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 18:48 | Link to Comment Paul Bogdanich
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You can't draw a barrel on a mini lathe.  You can't even properly machine hardened steel. 

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:44 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Looks like the trigger is broken to me...

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:34 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Yup, and that thing last for 6 firings.  Truly overwhelming.  Not!

I smell "guerilla marketing" in this story.  Clever marketing execs of 3D printers leveraging the G & A saga for juicing their sales.  If it helps the VOM (velocity of money), even Krugman the Fed will like it.  In spite of official objections.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 20:17 | Link to Comment Mr. Magniloquent
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You don't understand. It's obviously named "Liberator" after the French FP-45, aka "Liberator". I was a simplistic, easily concealed and manufactured single shot pistol to be used on a properly armed enemy at point-blank range. You strike them unaware, and then steal their weapon. Learn some history.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:34 | Link to Comment James_Cole
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Keep your pants on, this is just a prototype.  I work with 3D printing and CAD on a regular basis, there are limitations to what can be printed, furthermore 3D print material is notoriously brittle.  Yes, the compounds have come a long way since inception

Limitations (I assume you mean for the average Joe) are being removed very quickly. 

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/formlabs/form-1-an-affordable-profes...

http://www.stratasys.com/resources/case-studies/commercial-products/fdm-...

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:58 | Link to Comment The Big Ching-aso
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That is one royal-looking POS.    I wouldn't fire that phucking thing even if I was gonna commit suicide with it.  It's just too dangerous.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:57 | Link to Comment Precious
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I know.  That's the last problem anyone needs.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:21 | Link to Comment resurger
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but there printers that uses metal, you can load any type of metal in it and the laser will cut. i use Zbrush, btw can you print the mechanical parts, i think the problem is there.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:59 | Link to Comment rosiescenario
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....right you are....the shooter might be at higher risk than the shootee...

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 18:46 | Link to Comment Paul Bogdanich
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Also notice how the guy in the demo fired one shot.  That's probably because if you fire two either the breach or the barrel or both fail.  Plastics simply cannot support the chamber pressures generated by a properly functioning firearm and i bet the round at issue was loaded down to about 300 fps.  Fundamentally to print rather than machine means the material you are printing with has to be able to flow or else you can't print with it.  It's just a headline grabbing piece tailored to the gun nuts of which there are many.  If one was serious about doing something like that one would probably use machined phenolic or some similar material like that for the breach and the barrel.  Furthmore if they get to the point where they can print a material what would withstand even nominal chamber and breach loads it would have to be dense so all the scanners would see it just not the "metal detectors."  In sum just a scare story.  A lot of those lately as well.    

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:32 | Link to Comment AlaricBalth
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Can you say melted gun?

There are a few variables which determine the temperature of a fire arm barrel. Rate of fire, caliber of ammo, longitudinal location of barrel, radial location of barrel and mode of fire. Each type of firearm has its own barrel temperature range.

Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene (ABS) plastic has a melt temperature of 221 degrees F. Even a small caliber firearm has barrel temperature variation from 260-600 degrees F or more depending upon the above determinants.

I would imagine that this 3-D gun would be rendered useless after a few shots at best.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:43 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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And accurate at a range of, oh about 6 inches?

Why not use an ice pick?

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:46 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Now when I hear a story about somebody 'suiciding' themselves by TWO shots to the back of the head I'm gonna believe the story...

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:43 | Link to Comment JuliaS
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A gun that destroys itself after dischagre does have certain appeal. All that's needed is plastic shell-casing and a bio-degradable bullet to complement it. Give it another week.

 

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 20:28 | Link to Comment Mr. Magniloquent
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It's not intended to be a primary firearm. Wikipedia FP-45 or see above.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:22 | Link to Comment mick_richfield
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If pointed remarks are outlawed,

only outlaws will have pointed remarks.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:59 | Link to Comment Precious
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My kid got suspended from school for whispering the word "p-l-a-s-t-i-c".

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:06 | Link to Comment pierco1
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Great now 2 years are going to be locked up for pointing... gives a whole new meaning to it's not polite to point

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:08 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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"In reponse to the new printed-gun technology, Representative Steve Israel (D - Huntington) will be introducing legislation to ban anything that can be pointed at people."

Is that a (printed) gun in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? - Mae West

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:26 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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They already have a law on the books that bans guns on planes, which are not metallic -- and thus avoid metal detectors at airports. 

p.s. Altough there are a number of ways of achieving some very nasty results on planes, thankfully all of the people with those skills & brains are too smart to take themselves out of the gene pool. 

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:08 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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Just another nice Christian boy from the tribe.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:33 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Steve Israel should go to Israel and stay there.  F him!

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 18:41 | Link to Comment Henry Chinaski
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In reponse to the new printed-gun technology, Representative Steve Israel (D - Huntington) will be introducing legislation to ban anything that can be pointed at people.

 

Hah!  Half the population would be illegal. Just sayin.

(Cock blocking, bitchez!)

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:42 | Link to Comment Manthong
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well, only one logical solution..

time for the government to ban printers

has that been tried anywhere before?

oh, and HH.. I would favor a 1911.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:58 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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 I would favor a 1911

I was talking about undetectable and non-metal weapons. 

Nonetheless, inside of 15 feet, with your 1911 in a holster, and my Benchmade clipped in my pocket, I still like my odds.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:10 | Link to Comment malikai
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This doesn't sound like approved DHS self-defence protocol to me, fellas.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:18 | Link to Comment Saint Tibb
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Exactly.  You're supposed to call 911 and wait for the police to come and tag your corpse before you do anything.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 17:54 | Link to Comment jimmytorpedo
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I have my DHS approved scissors handy.

Unfortunately they're the plastic kindergarten variety, not carbon fibre.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:19 | Link to Comment Manthong
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Skill with cutlery is to be respected...    :-D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DzcOCyHDqc

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:28 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:28 | Link to Comment Manthong
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:-)    just having fun with the concept..

God knows everything else is getting ridiculous.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:33 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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Indeed.  When everyone else is losing their heads, keep yours...

 

Item 7

Complete the following courses in this order:

1. One half-day tactical folding knife class; $150.

2. 2-3 weekends of Tactical Pistol Courses; $1,000.

3. 2-3 weekends of Tactical Rifle Courses; $1,000.

4. One day of Self and Family Emergency Medical Aid/Trauma Kit Course; $150.

5. A series of several two-hour self-defense classes (not martial arts classes); $200.

6. Fulfillment of requirements for concealed handgun permit; $250.

You should learn in these classes how to safely conduct dry-fire training with your firearms and a dummy knife. Do this on a regular basis, such as once per week for at least 5 minutes.

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-19-10/fear-we-are-returning-time-history-where-it-common-occurrence-fight-ones-life

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:38 | Link to Comment prains
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Having a wife and children changes the paradigm from stand and fight to run and hide, if as a father you lose that knife fight (God help you) and worse if in front of your children, it's game over.

If you are like me and want a hedge to the finish line, after guns and knives (which by the way statisitcally do quite poorly against tanks) then your hedge requires;

_remotenss

_ability to survive after supplies run out

_even more remoteness after you've been discovered

_a really good pair of boots that can take an 8 hour run (carrying a child or two)

 

just saying if you're going to hedge then hedge to the e.n.d.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 18:17 | Link to Comment Oldwood
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Rule #1, Cardio. The fatties go first.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:48 | Link to Comment Precious
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Post soccer game parking lot brawl: Free

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:08 | Link to Comment Agent P
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There's a reason for the 21 foot rule.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:11 | Link to Comment Miffed Microbio...
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HH, you are absolutely right. I've seen numerous well armed people with guns killed quickly with knives. Some didn't even get the gun out of it's holster when they were overcome by stab wounds. I saw a marine kill a car jacker with a .357 pointed at his head with 3 stabs to his throat, chest and abdomen. The thief didn't get one shot in and was dead before he hit the ground. The only caveat was the knife armed person was more often then not highly skilled and trained. I'm very comfortable with hand guns but I have abject terror when it comes to knives. I know I need to get over this eventually and get trained. I wish I could erase 8 years working trauma in the ER.

Miffed;-)

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:15 | Link to Comment DosZap
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HH, you are absolutely right. I've seen numerous well armed people with guns killed quickly with knives. Some didn't even get the gun out of it's holster when they were overcome by stab wounds. I saw a marine kill a car jacker with a .357 pointed at his head with 3 stabs to his throat, chest and abdomen. The thief didn't get one shot in and was dead before he hit the ground. The only caveat was the knife armed person was more often then not highly skilled and trained. I'm very comfortable with hand guns but I have abject terror when it comes to knives. I know I need to get over this eventually and get trained. I wish I could erase 8 years working trauma in the ER.

Miffed;-)

 

Any intelligent fireams carrier SHOULD know, if you face a perp w/ a knife,if your weapon is holstered you will be carved up IF that perp is 21' or less away from you.The key is to have it out and in your hand at the ready.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:32 | Link to Comment Manthong
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the video supposes an LE situation versus a totally hostile threat environment.

I certainly agree with the training ..   draw..  composure.. point of aim./ sight picture..  trigger pull  (the breath thing gets a little dicey in combat)

I’ll still stick with the 1911..    or any conveniently available .40 Glock.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:33 | Link to Comment Headbanger
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WRONG!!!  S$W 686 Plus!

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:22 | Link to Comment Miffed Microbio...
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The problem is "faced". In my example the marine was surprised from behind with the perp holding the gun. He fortunately had access to a knife which he got in his right hand so when he exited the car he could strike before the perp shot him. The whole encounter was very close, within arms reach. This is where I believe knives have the best advantage. At least being on the hospital end where I saw the results.

Miffed;-)

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:02 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Aren't the best assasins the ones who are excellent with a knife?  Snipering must be an American (ex-Mil) thing -- ther need for gadgets.  The costlier the better.  According to Hollywood.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:58 | Link to Comment Ms. Erable
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Just hope you don't pull that pig-sticker on someone like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9AJzv8gb2A

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 17:24 | Link to Comment Overfed
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Dan Inosanto is one bad mofo.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:00 | Link to Comment Blano
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What, no scissors???

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:25 | Link to Comment Shell Game
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And I'm talking about armor penetrating blades, so I'll stick with my Hissatsu..  ;)

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:53 | Link to Comment BLOTTO
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I think i found one of these 'Liberators' in a Kinder egg.

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Effective range is, 1-4 yards? You basically better be sleeping right next to the enemy.

.

I rather use my SOG tech bowie...and its pure stealth. No need to wake up everyone...especially when you only have one shot.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:52 | Link to Comment exi1ed0ne
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Roll your own.

http://reprap.org/

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:19 | Link to Comment CVfriendship
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Ban Printers.....QE IS OVERRRRRR

 

Thanks 3D printing.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 17:01 | Link to Comment rosiescenario
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.....better yet, shut down the entire internet so blogs such as ZH cannot disperse accurate information...

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:15 | Link to Comment maskone909
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Never bring a knife to a 3d printed gun fight

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:45 | Link to Comment DosZap
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Inside of 15 feet, give me a carbon-fiber knife.

This is what they need to use to print and make really reliable recievers(esp AR clones).

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:12 | Link to Comment villainvomit
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Leo Gaje ??'

At least you don't have to worry about reloading.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:44 | Link to Comment thisandthat
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Somehow silex seems cheaper and sharper...

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:45 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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They'll try to stop it the same way they've tried to stop illegal drugs, and it'll be as much of a raging success as that experiment.

Good old Uncle Sam is as fully retarded as Simple Jack.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:05 | Link to Comment malikai
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I can't wait to see "Printer Madness".

Wait a minute..

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:30 | Link to Comment mick_richfield
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Oh I doubt that.

The point of drug prohibition is to create lucrative monopolies in commodities with extreme artificial price support.

It's hard to see how the market for guns could ever be anywhere near as large as that for recreational drugs.

Gun prohibition wouldn't make nearly as much money as drug or alcohol prohibition.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:38 | Link to Comment CH1
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the same way they've tried to stop illegal drugs

They've really tried to stop drugs? Or they just made a show of it for budgets and to get moral suckers to vote?

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:31 | Link to Comment Precious
Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:33 | Link to Comment malikai
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Why'd they call them deer guns?

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:36 | Link to Comment Precious
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Deer french or polish resistance fighter:

Here is your new gun.

Sincerely,

Dwight.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:16 | Link to Comment Gringo Viejo
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@ malikai

In absolute agreement with you 'bro.

It's called "trading up."

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:40 | Link to Comment Stoploss
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Will they be releasing downloads for the life size 3D images for the critter of choice to use as target practice?

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:15 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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About time they 3-D printed a gun.

The Second Amendment lives!

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:17 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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Chucky doesn't want that to happen:

Now he wants to ban 3D printers:

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/05/05/schumer-announces-support-for-measure-to-make-3d-printed-guns-illegal/

Too bad it doesn't outlaw Ben's...

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:30 | Link to Comment oddball
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Fuck you Chuck.  You can't kill and idea.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:47 | Link to Comment Tsunami Wave
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Hey Chuck why don't you outlaw your lips, tounge, and the words that come out of them, you Wall-streeting, money stealing, career politician lying corrupt piece of slimy shit.

 

We know who really owns you:

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cid=n00001093&cycle=2...

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:00 | Link to Comment Midas
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Oh shit, last time Chuck tried to outlaw something I ended up with a bitcoin mining obsession.  Looks like its time to go long hewlett-packard...

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:06 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Schumer is a pure self-serving ass.  Besides...

/ If you want quality US weapons, just buy them from the Gov -- via the Mexican gun runners.  What was the DOJ gun-running operation again?  /s

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:37 | Link to Comment oddball
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I thought guns were illegal in Mexico?  Shouldn't Chuck be slapping Nack in the ass and telling him to get back to work?

 

Ass-clowns all of them.

 

 http://tijuana.usconsulate.gov/tijuana/warning.html

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 17:04 | Link to Comment rosiescenario
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The absolute control of guns in Mexico insures that only the criminals and the police have guns, but I repeat myself.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:34 | Link to Comment cynicalskeptic
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C'mon... is he going to ban pipe and steel tubing too?  Ever heard ofa Zip Gun?   The weapon of poor gang bangers before the firearms industry started producing die cast Saturday Night Specials.

Hate to say it but if there's a demand, it is going to be filled for the right price in one way or another.    

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:35 | Link to Comment Quinvarius
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Why the Hell does he even care???

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:39 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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They've probably (and very quietly) mishandled the police pension funds in NYC, and now they realize they've lost protection.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:17 | Link to Comment Meat Hammer
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Why the Hell does he even care???

 

He knows that 3D printing will prove that free people owning an abundance of guns doesn't increase the murder rate.  The gun-grabbers will be silenced once and for all.

Freedom, bitchez.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 17:43 | Link to Comment Things that go bump
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I'm sorry, I don't believe they care about the murder rate particularly. They want to get guns out of the hands of the people, because an unarmed population is much easier to control. 

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:25 | Link to Comment waterwitch
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Gives ctrl-p a whole new meaning!

 

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:16 | Link to Comment syntaxterror
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I guess the plastic pellets used in 3D printers will be impossible to buy soon just like ammo is now. 

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:16 | Link to Comment Lendo
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The DHS must hate this.  Therefore you know it's a great thing!

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:18 | Link to Comment mckee
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DHS just ordered half a billion 3d printers

 

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:33 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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I sense a shortage in ABS plastic and rising prices coming soon!

(PS. there are already people designing self-shredding ABS 'wire' extrusion units to turn waste plastic into usable print 'media'.)

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:41 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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Buy up those Lego construction packs, that's a raw material right there.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:29 | Link to Comment Agent P
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Do you have kids?  Lego is more expensive than ammo.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:11 | Link to Comment ChanceIs
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I am a mechanical engineer - when I am not busy losing $$$$ holding silver.  I needed to look into 3D printing a few months ago.  I got on all of the manufacturers' ticklers.  The other day I got an announcement that one of the companies was printing with high end stainless steel.  You can get ceramics, alumnide, all sorts of stuff.  You would be AMAZED.  I don't even understand why they are talking plastic.

Oh.  And you don't even need to blow $1,300 on a printer.  They will turn a part overnight if you like.  Just upload the drawings for an instant quote.  So what to do???  If you don't want to order all of your parts from one printer service firm, spread it around to 20.  What will Chucky do?  Try to ban the fabbrication of all 3 inch long by .22 caliber tubes?  Fat chance.

Out glorious Prez was just boasting in the SOU how he wanted to make some town in central Ohiop the world's hub of 3D printing.

This is the best thing that ever happened to the NRA.  You have to figure that the pols will have to cut the crap because there is no stopping guns.  I like this because I viewed the entire gun control issue as being one more of pushing me further into the mental state of servitude to the state.  It has nothing to do with guns.  Its right out of 1984.

War is peace (thank you Syria/Liibya/Egypt)

Freedom is slavery (thank you gun control)

Igrorance is strength (thank you public schools/"W" for no student left behind))

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:21 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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+1 Chance.  Brilliant points!!!  3D printing represents viral production, it has the potential to be a factory in your kitchen.  The economy goes back to the cottage.  TBTF's worse nightmare, no need for financing hubbed by a CB and plenty of workaround of tax revenues.   

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:33 | Link to Comment RebelDevil
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Most of us until now were in doubt that you could print using metals and ceramics. +1 for the extremely informative post sir.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:36 | Link to Comment mick_richfield
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Thanks for the stainless / ceramic / aluminide news.

I had no idea.

This is going to make my space colonies a lot easier.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:37 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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 Shapeways was one such place.  MetalBot was going for open source metal printing using a bunch of different methods.  I also found numerous resources for creating parts designs from plastic and then using metal casting methods to produce metal parts. With a lot of emphasis on gun parts I might add.  I think both types of printing fit a need, one thing to watch is the consumables.  Any way of replacing the consumables from locally available resources will have a big advantage.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:48 | Link to Comment Freddie
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If they get amnesty - they will have vote to get guns.  They already are making ammo very hard. 

I heard on the radio that they awarded 6 murdered teachers at Newtown a medal from Obama.   I avoided reading all the details because the story was so horrible. 

There is no way that one kid killed all the children and 6 teachers.  Oh and no one survived.  No one.  Columbine you had survivors.   I did not believe Newtown before and now there is no way.  There were professionals in the school.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:16 | Link to Comment Lendo
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lol, exactly dude.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 17:04 | Link to Comment rosiescenario
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.......and 50 trillion tons of plastic pellets...

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:16 | Link to Comment Rustysilver
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A solution in search of a problem. I don't have a problem buying a gun (a reliable one). Do you?

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:26 | Link to Comment bpj
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But buy a gun and try and get it on an airplane.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:36 | Link to Comment cynicalskeptic
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ding ding ding... NSA just added you to their 'people of interest' list........

you can't even joke about such things now with the Stazi mindset running loose.....

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:38 | Link to Comment pods
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Good thing they now make ABS cased ammunition. err, wait.

The second to last thing I wanna do is get on an airplane. The first is to wake up in Goddamistan with some 2 bit CIA contractor pulling out my fingernails with vice grips.

You seem to be wanting to do both?

pods

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:57 | Link to Comment mckee
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F'n hilarious... I'm still trying to dry my shirt from the water that came out of my nose.

 

+42

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:42 | Link to Comment Miffed Microbio...
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Pods, want to here something funny? Last February I traveled to Fiji, Australia and new Zealand routed thru LA. I boarded 9 planes. When I got home I found a .40 live cartridge in my purse. I don't know how it got there, must have accidentally dropped it when I was at the range before I left. Not one screening caught it. Even the TSA mega assholes. (very glad at that, I'm sure if they had I would have gotten the " special" screen! ) not that I would ever do that again knowingly but it was certainly funny.

Miffed;-)

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:51 | Link to Comment Freddie
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How many times were you groped?  How many times were you irradiated? 

.40?  LOL!  It "ain't" a small round like a .22.  Maybe they thought you were DHS because all the DHS has .40 and the peasants cannot find any ammo.  ;-)

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:53 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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Why are you still flying?

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:31 | Link to Comment Fukushima Sam
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You're looking at the wrong solution/problem set.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:16 | Link to Comment mckee
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"you didn't print that"

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:03 | Link to Comment Midas
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"Those who cling to religion and printers"

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:16 | Link to Comment Bangin7GramRocks
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This is great news! What will you gun nuts rave about now? Get yourself a 3d printer and print a whole fucking arsenal.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:31 | Link to Comment LoneStarHog
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Gun Nuts are your totally irrational Libtards.  They are not like belivers in the 2nd Amendment, who are rational and do not fear an inanimate object. Capiche'?

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:06 | Link to Comment Tsunami Wave
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"This is great news! What will you gun nuts rave about now? Get yourself a 3d printer and print a whole fucking arsenal."

 

That must really terrify ya, right?  I'm not exactly sure who you're referring to as "gun nuts".. but it's good to know that guns terrify egotistical, statist "lets steal everyone else's money to buy poor people votes, but don't you dare tax me bro" liberals!  The same ones that ironically 'love' tolerance.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:29 | Link to Comment Bangin7GramRocks
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I am an Independent. Not a fucktard liberal. I also believe in the right to own a gun. What I am opposed to is the growing subculture of gun-obsessed crazies who visit gun shops weekly and stockpile ammo. Contrary to what you are spoon-fed on conservative radio, TV and Internet, the gubmint is not coming for your guns. Feel free to feed the family this month instead of spending all the money on "scarce ammunition".

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:34 | Link to Comment KnightTakesKing
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Despite your protestations to the contrary, you are a libtard.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:11 | Link to Comment DosZap
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Bangin

I am an Independent. Not a fucktard liberal. I also believe in the right to own a gun. What I am opposed to is the growing subculture of gun-obsessed crazies who visit gun shops weekly and stockpile ammo. Contrary to what you are spoon-fed on conservative radio, TV and Internet, the gubmint is not coming for your guns.

You REALLY need to pay attention to what is going on in D.C.,Do you have a clue what was in Feinsteins BAN list?.I doubt it,otherwise you would not speak as you have.

As for stockpiling ammo, try and buy a box of 22LR, or 98% of any other caliber.

There are no PILES to buy.

 

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:17 | Link to Comment Bangin7GramRocks
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Yes. And it will never pass. The craziest thing about the Obama administration is that there has been no progress on gun control. Listening to people here, one would swear that Obama has outlawed handguns. There are too many pro-gun democrats from rural states to ever pass any gun control laws. This reality will not stop the gun manufacturers and NRA from whipping everyone up in a frenzy.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:25 | Link to Comment Meat Hammer
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So you are bothered by what other people do that doesn't, in any way, affect you. 

 

It's not even a libtard, independent, conservative thing.  You're just a whiny bitch.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:56 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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That must really hurt.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:32 | Link to Comment Bangin7GramRocks
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I'm sorry for being such an asshole. I got a bad case of Weaver Fever this year and I just can't seem to shake it.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:35 | Link to Comment Ms. Erable
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And we should let you tell us how much ammunition is enough to have on hand, right? Why do I keep 500 9mm, 500 .40S&W, 2500 .22LR, 1k 5.56, and 250 .308 on hand?

Because fuck you, that's why.

 

 

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 15:46 | Link to Comment Bangin7GramRocks
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Sshhhhh! They are listening to everything we say.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 16:55 | Link to Comment Freddie
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What I am opposed to is the growing subculture of gun-obsessed crazies....

Me too....I loathe liberal Hollywood directors and the "stars" the pedophile/rapist directorsforce into sex to be in their shitty and violent movies. 

Just another reason why I stopped watching O-Hollywood and O-TV.  F Hollywood and F TV.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:57 | Link to Comment Che Guevara is Dead
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Meh, I'll stick with my AR-15, Saiga 12, and Glock 17. 

In the meantime, go have an abortion, baby killer.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:12 | Link to Comment Creepy Lurker
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ZH seems to filling up with these collectivist spew lovers lately.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:13 | Link to Comment asscannon101
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"This is great news! What will you gun nuts rave about now? Get yourself a 3d printer and print a whole fucking arsenal."

Look, Mommy! A talking asshole!

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:17 | Link to Comment Dr. No
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It would appear from the photo the trigger is broken.  Typical of SLA material performance.  No doubt one day SLA materials will be better, but currently they suck in terms of engineering materials.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:23 | Link to Comment Agent P
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That's the safety.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:25 | Link to Comment Dr. No
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Whenever we make SLA marketing mock-ups the first thing we tell the sales guys is "be careful; tha material is not representative of the actual intended product".  They break it anyway just by touching it.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:39 | Link to Comment adr
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I see all these idiots on TV claiming the homeconsumer product revolution is right around the corner. That 3D printing will be like the internet and create hundreds of billion dollar corporations. They have no knowledge of how they work and how hard it is to actually use them.

I talk to people that are buzzing aout 3D printing and ask them if they have ever used one or ever handled a 3D printed product. 9 out of 10 times it is, no.

Right now 3D printing is just Wall Street hype in the hopesof running another con game. Hoping they can take a few hundred 3D printing corporations public.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:42 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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yeah-daimler should have stopped building cars when his first attempt wasn't an S550

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 13:32 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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Everyone in america will buy one...  it's just that the printer will end up with a bunch of dirty clothes on it like the treadmill in the extra bedroom.  Think about all of the kitchen gadgets we have that we don't use because we're too lazy to bother fixing supper...

For some it will be awesome, and that's neat...  but I think economies of scale and, more importantly, time will dictate that the effect of printing is limited.  The real issue is that it will help the move for localization and give enterprising folks a chance to get a few pounds of pressure from the boot off their throats.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:36 | Link to Comment Dr. No
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The printer prices are not too bad.  The raw material is the bank breaker.  Ours gathers dust here at work since you have to provide a cost center to charge before you build.  Its bout $350 a bottle.

Razor blade buisness model.  But you nailed it: cycle times are really long.  Not feasible for volumes greater than 5.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:17 | Link to Comment Silverhog
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Looks dangerous to everyone near it except the intended target.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:34 | Link to Comment Wile-E-Coyote
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Hey turn your kid into an assassin. ...........Orrrr

No one would suspect a four year old would hijack a plane, and they would wllingly fly it into a building for fun.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 12:19 | Link to Comment Pimp Juice
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Next up: 3D Gold Eagle printer. That Ben Shalom is one smart cookie! But Obama said, "You didn't print that", didn't he?

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