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Bank Of America Q1 Profitable Trading Days: 100%

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After the "humiliating" performance in Q4 2012, when Bank of America had a whopping 2 trading loss days out of 61, in has managed to redeem itself in the first quarter of 2012, when not only did it record seven trading days when it generated revenue of over $100 million daily, but more importantly it had zero days (of 60 total) with any net trading losses: a track record that can only be matched by any daytrader on Twitter. After all, what is better than trading when there is no risk of loss.

From BAC:

The histogram below is a graphic depiction of trading volatility and illustrates the daily level of trading-related revenue for the three months ended March 31, 2013 compared to the three months ended December 31, 2012. During the three months ended March 31, 2013, positive trading-related revenue was recorded for 100 percent, or 60 trading days, of which 97 percent (58 days) were daily trading gains of over $25 million. These results can be compared to the three months ended December 31, 2012, where positive trading-related revenue was recorded for 97 percent, or 59 of the 61 trading days, of which 69 percent (42 days) were daily trading gains of over $25 million and the largest loss was $50 million.

And the stunning histogram:

Going further back, here is 2011 and 2012:

And summarizing it all: since the start of the New Normal 2009, Bank of America has had 962 profitable trading days, with just 97 days with trading losses: a 90.8% win record.


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Wed, 05/08/2013 - 10:45 | 3541040 LawsofPhysics
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Must... keep... pensions... solvent...

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 10:52 | 3541067 Pladizow
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And they'll still collapse!

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 10:56 | 3541087 Ness.
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And we'll still bail them out.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:02 | 3541120 The Phu
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My dad asked me the other day why I stopped trading stocks regularly and moved into illiquid assets like silver and copper-jacketed lead (not to mention those horrible implements of evil that throw that Cu+Pb at 2000fps).  My response was that I didn't feel that the market provided the little guys like me even a hair of fairness.  When HFT trades bid up take a penny per share per each trade from me, money-center banks maniupulate markets and never lose, and when the market goes up every day the fed conducts POMO, I cannot even dream of beating the house.  I'd argue that my chances are actually better at the casino than in the stock market.  Alas, it's easier for me not to play the game and just defend my stack.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:03 | 3541125 Zer0head
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Look out Goldman , BAC might just steal away the prized "Madoff Cup" you so proudly display in the front lobby of 200 West

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:13 | 3541168 MillionDollarBonus_
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@The Phu

I'm not sure what you are talking about? If you had simply invested in a major stock index like the S&P 500, you would have realized spectacuar gains over the last four years. Those stock returns are not just for the big guys - those returns are also for you.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:13 | 3541178 Stackers
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unless said little guy bought at the top of 2007 .......

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 12:17 | 3541436 The Phu
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Hi MDB_,


Thank you for pointing out that I should, as a small, uneducated investor, trust my money to the market and "ride the wave."  I hate with my 401k and the few remaining IRA assets that are highly correlated to market moves.  However, the wealth effect that central planners are hoping I would feel have been offset by losses on my house, stagnating income growth (as an employed 30-year old, I'm fortunate to have a job, let alone one in which I'm fairly well compensated and have seen my income double since I first enetered the work force).  However, while my paper wealth in those retirement vehicles has increased, those are returns that I cannot touch (without tax penalties) for another, at best 29.5 years. 

What has increased in value better in that same time horizon?  I used to buy .223 ammo for $0.22 per round in 2008-09 time frame.  Last I looked, which was a few months ago, the same brand & style ammo was fetching close to $1.00 per round on sites like  My paper gain on the ammo, and the gun that shoots the ammo, have displayed fantastic gains.  However, those are unrealized gains because I recognize the utility of the ammo and the gun are worth more to me than the fiat I could convert them into.  I thank Barack Hussein Obama for that wealth effect... and only BHO!

My final point is this.  I used to believe that the Oracle of Omaha was a smart dude.  In fact, in today's universities, the Buffett model of investing is taught as if it were religion.  However, the school of hard knocks has taught me to see the real truth - he's a kleptocratic parasite.  I have never felt more wealthy than I do today with a stack of real money "under my bed" instead of a pile of Benjamins in my wallet or in the bank. 

I realize that your comments are made in jest.  Mine, however, are not.  I have real wealth - a good family, a good head on my shoulders, means of defense, some fiat, some real money, and beans, bullets, and bandaids.  I don't rely on a morally and fiscally bankrupt gov't for anything.  I believe in Liberty and personal responsibility.  I could give a rat's ass what happens on Wall Street because I'm no longer a slave to that paradigm - unplugged from the Matrix, so to speak.  And I couldn't be happier as a result. 


Best of luck to all of you when the system, the world as we know it, comes crashing down.  If it doesn't come crashing down, if I'm wrong, then come on over and we'll drop some ammo, drink a few beers, and polish some silver.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 14:42 | 3542076 Freddie
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So what did he say?  "F**k you Bernake!"

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 14:44 | 3542092 Rustysilver
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The Phu,

I wish I took your advise 25 years ago.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:04 | 3541132 eclectic syncretist
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This is absolutely in-fucking-possible without some form of insider trading going on.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:30 | 3541255 Manthong
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Hillary turned 1K into 100K in cattle futures..

it's a piece of cake..  if you have official privilege

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 14:43 | 3542087 Freddie
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"What does it matter!!!"

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:46 | 3541321 Pairadimes
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Sunuvabitch. I think I just saw a unicorn walk past my office window.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 12:08 | 3541409 smlbizman
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goldman has the same kind of record, i would guess jpm and hsbc do can you guess who has to be losing ?

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 10:57 | 3541094 fourchan
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Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:05 | 3541140 bobnoxy
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Perfect fore-knowledge?

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:10 | 3541161 slightlyskeptical
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Front running by HFT. It's a guaranteed profit if done on a large enough scale.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:47 | 3541326 Apocalicious
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Scalping your clients. Or the more politically correct term is flow trading. FLOW!!! Its the new prop.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:02 | 3541116 mac768
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I just wonder how the "Bill Gross Haircut" looks on BAC, could be an ugly sight...

but dont worry, Dr. Bernanke will take care of it...

in the end, main street will get the haircut and wallstreet looks just fine


Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:16 | 3541192 xtop23
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And continuing to pay effectively nothing in interest to it's future victims.... I mean depositors.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 10:59 | 3541105 slaughterer
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BAC--we are talking the dumbest of the dumb.  100% success.  Clearly, HFT has some merits: even a moron can use it to make money.  

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 12:05 | 3541400 Colonel Klink
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If anyone here on Zerohedge still banks with any of the majors, then you're truly not putting your money where your mouth is.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:06 | 3541146 Groundhog Day
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back to the perfect trading days....thoses traders must be geniuses

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 10:46 | 3541043 CharliePrince
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insider info?  on fed actions

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 10:52 | 3541066 doomandbloom
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just BTFD

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 10:58 | 3541097 DoChenRollingBearing
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Wed, 05/08/2013 - 10:46 | 3541044 Possible Impact
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If you check the math, it is actually 105% of the time.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 10:50 | 3541057 pods
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Now that is doubleplus good!


Wed, 05/08/2013 - 10:47 | 3541046 B2u
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Must keep bonuses flowing to the 1%.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 10:47 | 3541047 fonzannoon
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Wed, 05/08/2013 - 10:49 | 3541051 Dr. Engali
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Wed, 05/08/2013 - 10:55 | 3541082 Seasmoke
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Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:01 | 3541115 gimli
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Andrew Cuomo

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:03 | 3541123 Dr. Engali
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Maria Bartiromo

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:27 | 3541248 OneTinSoldier66
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Sonny Bono

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:30 | 3541257 BeepBeepImAJeep
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Tony Romo

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:48 | 3541328 Pairadimes
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Wed, 05/08/2013 - 14:58 | 3542154 Ban KKiller
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Burned out Limo

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 10:55 | 3541085 fourchan
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Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:06 | 3541144 prains
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Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:15 | 3541187 WhyDoesItHurtWh...
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Wed, 05/08/2013 - 16:20 | 3542439 prains
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Wed, 05/08/2013 - 10:48 | 3541049 Dr. Engali
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I think that the only person who can't make a profit in this market is Jim Cramer.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 10:54 | 3541080 FoeHammer
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lol. He must be too busy playing with his sound board.


Muppets by definition cannot win!

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 10:51 | 3541059 GraveyardSpiral
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Profit?  There's that word again.  I thought it was not "fair" to make a profit.  What's going on here????????

Perhaps its "Prophet" and I am misundertsanding something...or someone

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 10:54 | 3541070 Ness.
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Bonds ripping higher, stocks ripping higher...time for me to get higher.  


At least the banks and F&F are making money.  



Wed, 05/08/2013 - 10:53 | 3541071 TeamDepends
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They must have the best of the best working there...

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 10:57 | 3541086 thepigman
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Crash master Ben Bernanke....I think he can  do it. Crash it, Ben.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 10:58 | 3541096 Arrowflinger
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Tyler - there seems to be a niggling typo in the intro paragraph..."has managed to redeem itself in the first quarter of 2012" ....looks like that should be 2013

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 10:59 | 3541103 Hedgetard55
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"Niggling". Dat be raycis.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:32 | 3541266 speconomist
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Was going to post precisely that.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:01 | 3541110 astoriajoe
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Perhaps Brian Moynihan should contact James Randi as this is clear evidence for psychic ability, although the million dollar prize is peanuts for BAC.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:01 | 3541111 B2u
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Who needs profit?  Obama gives us food stamps and phones...and "free" healthcare.  Government will take care of us.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 18:42 | 3542860 Collapsed
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Who needs profit?  Obama gives us food stamps and phones...and "free" healthcare.  Government will take care of us Coporations. (Fixed it)

Food stamp money to Doritos, Obamaphones to Apple and AT&T, healthcare to Blue Cross.  Social Security and Disablity checks direct deposited to the banks...  The American Corpora-kleptocracy in action, executed to a T.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:02 | 3541118 Inthemix96
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Now whats the odds on that folks?

Fucking remarkable it is, A 100% running streak.

Bet these fuckers is good at a Vegas chip table.

Shocked I am.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:04 | 3541130 Smegley Wanxalot
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BAC got lucky more than I did in Q1.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:07 | 3541135 slaughterer
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Nearly everything at all-time highs.... VIX getting destroyed... even shitty sovereign bonds being bought up by an army of yield seekers...  P/E just crazily being pumped... no down days... fastest flow of liquidity and low-rate money available to buy just about anything except PMs without regard to fundamentals.... HFT just killing all semblance of a rational market where buyers meet sellers... when the Fed decides it is appropriate, the bears (Janjuah, Schiff, Gross, Rosenberg, Grant, even certain GS teams ...) will be paraded out to convince you to lose money shorting all of this.  Just ask yourself: how is Bidermann doing these days?    

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:08 | 3541154 thepigman
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Screw it. Let Bernanke give money to the banksters until they crash the markets. Always ends the same exact way.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:13 | 3541177 Dr. Engali
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I've said it before and I'll stick by it. when the time comes to short this market, it will have been too late. The lack of real shorts, the HFT robots, and these artificial levels have pulled away any underlying bid this market may have. It will vaporize in overnight trading and people will be scratching their heads with a WTF look on their face.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:21 | 3541221 Bay of Pigs
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Many of us realized this when the bond vigilantes ended up in the Mariana Trench a few years back.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:05 | 3541138 JustObserving
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Even if you have an 80% chance of making money on any given day, the chance of having 60 days without a loss is  1.532 in 1 million.

So either Bank of America got very lucky, or the markets are rigged.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:09 | 3541159 Smegley Wanxalot
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I'd say it's a clear case of very lucky. 

Rigged markets would be prosecuted to the"full extent of the law".

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:07 | 3541143 gimli
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I'm buying miners, so if you put me and BAC together we get a more respectable 50% success rate.

Each bank can put in this Gimli factor if they wish to avoid manipulation speculation. I do charge a fee though.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:08 | 3541152 slaughterer
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BAC has a large portfolio of Australian miners--like I said, dumb bank.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:15 | 3541186 El Hosel
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BAC is making Bernie Madoff look like a Fuking Boyscout.... Fraud is legal if you ar too big to fail.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:19 | 3541211 Downtoolong
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Obviously these folks aren't trading under the same rules, terms, and conditions that you and I are subject to.

Given that, it doesn't amaze me at all that they are all multi-millionaires.

What amazes me is that they aren't all multi-billionaires.


Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:20 | 3541218 pragmatic hobo
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what I'm wondering is, how they lost money on those 97 days when your "trading" mainly consists of front running bid/ask ...

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:31 | 3541249 Aurora Ex Machina
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I bet all those fishies who were caught up in sending off-the-record emails to fix things in their favor are feeling silly now. This is much easier.

If you're winning with a 100% success rate, you're pushing beyond the probable into the impossible. (Probability and Possibility are two different Sets, but hey)[1].

If you do the math on the probabilities, you're right into plaid. Universe breaking stuff. We're glad to see that Wall Street has left the reality based community, and joined the faith based community, just as the US government suggested. Time crystals away! [Reddit cross fertilized with HN if you need to catch up]




[1] Assuming your outcome isn't predetermined in some fashion. Invisible hand, I guess. Mysterious ways and all.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:29 | 3541254 LongPAU
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We cover BAC's losses, so how can BAC report a trading loss with a straight face?

Maybe they're just being polite?

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:37 | 3541285 overbet
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first quarter of 2013


Wed, 05/08/2013 - 11:54 | 3541357 economists_do_i...
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100% every day is not enough.  They will seek more.  100% every hour.  Every minute.  Every milisecond.  100+ million every day.  More leverage.  Bigger bonus.  The greed will eventually do them in.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 12:01 | 3541381 economists_do_i...
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Here is the link to file a complaint with the SEC:

If everyone that views ZH files a complaint, perhaps they'll stop watching their midget porn videos long enough to do their JOB.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 12:02 | 3541387 riskon.then.riskoff
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Only market making can do this,but this passive strategy in FX market with EURUSD

open position each day (long or short) with take profit of  15pip no stop loss = +-75 hit rate in EURUSD

EURUSD 2002==>2012,10 yr  backtest = 75% green day

And with some guys  with "great spirit" of BofA trading floor, is not so difficult to turn this strategy to 100% green gay i think!!!!!



Wed, 05/08/2013 - 12:07 | 3541406 Cheeseus Sonofdog
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How do I get on the Feds special emailing list?

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 12:22 | 3541452 ak_khanna
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In a casino, the house always wins and in all the electronic exchanges, the too big to fail banksters are the operators. Armed with funds from the FED and using High Frequency Trading softwares and Derivatives, they move the markets exactly where they want it to cause maximum losses to the traders and the hedge funds.

Even if they do make a loss, their budies, the central bankers and politicians are there to transfer their losses to the taxpayers so that they have a 100% success record in transfering wealth to their coffers from rest of the world.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 12:24 | 3541464 NoWayJose
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Clearly those two trading loss days last quarter were due to human error. Skynet terminated those individuals abd is now in complete control.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 12:59 | 3541623 Shizzmoney
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Wow, batting a 1.000%? 

They must have upped their bribery game this year!

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 13:07 | 3541650 bagehot99
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So, they are on the winning side of their trades 100% of the time? Who is on the other side?

Asked rhetorically.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 13:26 | 3541718 short screwed
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I think this pretty much says it all for the equity markets.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 14:32 | 3542034 NEOSERF
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Could some give me access to the 8AM morning meetings as to which stocks are in play each day...would help me out on my 40% accuracy.

Wed, 05/08/2013 - 16:14 | 3542334 One World Mafia
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And JPM and Goldman?

And the bullion banks that fix the the gold price twice a day:  Bank of Nova Scotia-Scotia Mocatta, Barclays Bank, Deutsche Bank, HSBC Bank USA, and Société Générale?

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:52 | 3544587 Morrotzo
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Bank of America and JPM had 123 days of profitability off the prop desk.

Even if they had it all sown up and such a knowledge advantage that they'd profit on 

95 percent of the days...

1000 to 1 shot, I think, .95 times itself 123 times.

Wow, these guys are really lucky!


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