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Benghazi Attack House Hearing Redux: Live Webcast
Following the latest set of revelations on the Benghazi embassy attack, the House is back to doing what it does best: pontificating, pointing fingers, and talking, and making a TV spectacle of it all. As the Hill notes, "New revelations about the terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya, are pulling Hillary Clinton back into a political firestorm that the presumptive 2016 candidate had so far managed to escape unscathed. House Republicans have unearthed new evidence suggesting the Obama administration could have done more to help the U.S. diplomats under attack last Sept. 11. State Department whistle-blowers testifying Wednesday before the House Oversight panel are also expected to say the then-secretary of State was personally involved in the decision to depict the attack that killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans as something other than terrorism." Sadly, Hillary will not be there to vehemently ask, rhetorically of course, of anyone interested in the failings in US foreign policy, "what difference does it make?"
Live webcast below.
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WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?
ummm...quite a lot.
without being a fan of Hillary: WTF, is the StateSec really supposed to be accountable for something like this? if yes, then there is quite a huge list of embassies that have to be evacuated, even those that resemble huge fortresses like a few I've seen in the ME
Who are the terrorists, and who are the freedom fighters. I can't tell the difference.
True "Freedom Fighters" are mighty rare these days. Mostly they're all terrorists. The only difference between the various factions of terrorists are their respective agendas, i.e. who gets to shear the most sheep.
When Nixon lied, no one died.
Yep. Lying to the American people has to be punished. This nonsense started because of how it would look during an election season. That's a primary reason it went down like this.
I just heard Rep Cummings say Death is a part of Life. I guess nothing matters, until it does.
Cummings also just said that he has a responsibility to "both of them", implying Clinton and Obama. Isn't his responsibilty supposed to be to the American people and the Constitution.
Yes and Yes.
Both parties have blood on their hands.
This time, it's the Democrats who fucked up. That's all.
And Republicans fucked up on Iraq.
It's time for a new top-tier national political party.
It is time to defund military adverturism, maintaining DEFENSE.
Military adventurism is big bucks for banks and contractors. It will be defended at all costs by both parties because both parties are owned by the exact same people.
Hillary Clinton is a sociopath: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y
She's a politician, so that's to be expected.
'*You* can't handle the truth!'
What difference does it make now?
Yes yes and yes.
Quoting Julius Caesar is NOT giving anyone any comfort about the direction of our foreign policy.
Can you imagine if she becomes President? She will use all of the presidential powers that crush individual liberty because she openly admits we're an empire and the President is American English translation for Romanorum Imperatoris.
I'm swimming across the Rio Grande to Mexico if this puta becomes president. It's(I refuse to call this person a woman) the most scariest politician in the US.
All that plus cankles and a gunt
What a catch
Bill's a lucky man
When you put it that way, I begin to understand why...
http://www.fullissue.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Monica-Lewinsky.jpg
"And Republicans fucked up on Iraq."
This is one of those memes that gets under my skin. Go back and check the record and see how many democrats voted YES the authorize the Iraq war. Hillary voted yes, along with almost every single other democrat. How many voted for Lybia? Oh that's right, Lybia was never voted it on and is an illegal war.
There is not a dime's worth of difference between the Democrat and Republican Political Parties in this country.
George Wallace 1968
They voted 'yes' because Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and Powel all dd an awesome job of lying to the public and lying to members of congress.
You weren't listening very closely. He said that, but then his main point was to reverse it: Life is a part of Death. I couldn't figure it out. I don't think he knew what the hell his point was despite having tried it out at a funeral beforehand.
Ahhh... the congressional black caucus... american leadership at its finest...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVXjg
10% of the population vote mindlessly for these idiots and then insist on blaming others for their condition in life.
Whatever he's on is some amazing sh!t! Choom-quality!
Perhaps you're forgetting the thousands of dead Americans in Viet Nam and hundreds of thousands of dead VietNamese.
You're forgetting that Kennedy started that war and Johnson double downed on it.
It was during Nixon that the war finally ended.
Ike started that war
"1. If one could think about direct army involvement then it would be Sept. 27, 1950 when the US establishes the Military Assistance Advisory Group, Indochina (MAAG) in Saigon to aid the French military (the French had been fighting communist rebels in Vietnam, their pre-WWII colony, since 1945 A.D.).
2. If one could think about direct combat engagement then it would be November 1, 1955 -- The US re-designates MACG, Indochina, as MACG, Vietnam to specify its new direct combat advisory role with the North Vietnamese Army. The US essentially took over the advisory role from the French, who were leaving Vietnam after their defeat at Diem Bien Phu in 1954. The Department of Defense views this date as the earliest qualifying date for inclusion on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. In fact this allows US military personnel to use live weapons in Vietnam aka 'to win'!
3. March 1959 -- Ho Chi Minh declares a People's War to unite all of Vietnam under his leadership. His Politburo orders a changeover to an all-out military struggle. From the communist perspective, the "Vietnam War" against the US has now officially started."
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When_did_the_Vietnam_War_start_and_end
Youre stuck in bullshit of the 'left' vs 'right', 'Dem' vs 'Repub' paradigm
You need to educate yourself on Nixon's 'ending' the Vietnam war
Kennedy was gettin' out of 'Nam. Kennedy said "no" to Bay of Pigs. Kennedy was back channel to Kruschev in '62 asking for 'help' as the generals were lookin' to actually fight (nukes) rather than the negotiated pull back from the brink.
That's why the elites murdered Kennedy in Dallas.
People think the President runs things -- and so did Kennedy -- and that's why he was taken out.
Im surprised Hillary doesnt blame the Serbs and start bombing them again like her husband did in the 90's...
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Shameful.
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http://www.teslasociety.com/500.htm
Hundreds of thousands of dead Vietnamese? No, it was millions. Over 2 million from 1965-1974 and even more if you go back to 1955. Also, it was 65,000 American soldiers dead, over 100,000 wounded, and hundreds of thousands more developed health complications as a result of exposure to Agent Orange. Also, over half a million Vietnamese children were born with defects as a result of Agent Orange, and over one million Vietnamese developed health complications as a result of exposure to the chemical.
Indeed. The terrors visited upon Vietnam were horrific, and should never have happened.
Yet we poison ourselves today continuously with Agent Orange's declassified little brother, Roundup, which is in all the water systems, all the GMO plants, and often at more than trace levels in our own bodies as a result, even in newborns. Agent Orange/Roundup (it is the same molecule) is known to cause not only birth defects, but sterility, neural defects--indeed, quite a laundry list of nasties. The Natural Society website has more information.
"When Nixon lied, no one died."
Except when Nixon promised the North Vietnamese that if they waited for him to win the presidency (over Johnson) that they would get a better deal at the negotiation table. For Nixon it was all about bettering his odds in the upcoming election. Lots of people died because that war went on longer that it could have. (Websearch YouTube with recording of Johnson talking about Nixon's behind the scenes moves regarding the North Vietnamese.) If there's an afterlife, Tricky Dick is buring eternally most likely.
Of course, Johnson lied regarding the Gulf of Tonkin 'attack' on US warships that greatly expanded the US involvement in the war. That cost 60,000 lives of US troops and more than a million Vietnamese (some estimates are much higher than this, 3-4 million.)
Lesson: they are all liars and psychopaths/sociopaths who don't care who dies as long as they gain power.
“I'll have those crackers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” Not a lie.
According to Ronald Kessler's book Inside the White house, LBJ said niggers, not crackers. He was speaking to two governors about his true motivations regarding his support of civil rights legislation, while aboard Air Force One.
“I’ll have them niggers voting Democratic for the next two hundred years.”
I can't believe some crackers needed a /sarc to get my comment.
For what these thoughts are worth:
1. Why does it seem that Hillary Clinton has categorically failed on every initiative she's ever been on. Whenever something she does blows up, she blames everyone. Remember how she made 100,000 trading pork futures because she learned it by reading the WSJ? Sure.
2. The fact that a) Hillary says "what does it matter" and, b) John Kerry being in charge now, should send a strong message to any families of American military families that their loved ones are seen as being disposable, ignorant pawns in the hands of the global elite. Kissinger said it first. Larry Dallas is just repeating this.
I'm sure some vets will red arrow me, but I never met anyone who wasn't involved in post 9/11 Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. that came back thinking the whole war and involvment was utter bullshit and now fiercely Ron Paul supporters.
Larry Dallas - - - well, during the last election Ron Paul received more donations from active military than any other candidate. So maybe you just havent talked to the right vets yet.
On your other points, people who have sacrificed and seen buddies die tend to give all that meaning.
There is a difference in how we deal with them. Libya is well above the Clinton-Netanyahu Line, so death and destruction from above is the order of the day, versus food and dollar drops from the sky.
The Clinton-Netanyahu Line, where drone strikes on brown people cease, and aid drops (or investments?) for black people begin.
These criminals own the “government”. The “government” does not tell them what to do, they tell the “government” what to do. They are the reason there is war everywhere, why the “government” ruling over us attacks nations all over the planet committing murder and terrorism against them and treason against us every day. I can’t imagine what sort of force will have to come to the fore to stop these criminals, but they must be stopped.
The “government” is a criminal organization. They rule with fire power. They are a gang that numbers in many thousands. Their goons are everywhere. America in under an occupation of criminals and will continue to be until they are at last forcibly removed from our land.
Their economic Ponzi scheme is about to collapse and the main mechanism of their control will be gone. Their central bank, the Fed Reserve, (see fifth Plank Communist Manifesto) has run its course. A 100 year conspiracy is coming to fruition and the deed is done.
Just one big problem for them, 200,000,000 guns in the hands of free Americans who hate their guts, and are hell bent of restoring this Republic to Constitutional legitimacy. Whatever cruelty, whatever ruthlessness the criminal “government” uses we must exercise even more so. Don’t forget, they want us dead. No quarter for traitors! No quarter for the enemy!
This is nothing but another diversion from the important questions that we should be facing now.
And those questions are...
Those important questions need to be answered and they arrrree.....
Let's keep focused on the important questions, such aassszzzz.......
Wait, what?!
Do you have some kind of mental malfunction or something? You should have that checked out.
I was commenting on the lack of information for what questions you find more important.
Can't you come up with those yourself? Let me see, the biggest economic crisis ever, stealing from the people to empower the elites, environmental issues, lying governments, bank accounts being stolen, pensions being stolen... Do you need more fucking issues to worry about?
They are the same elites you idiot. You say they need to be accountable but you do not want to have them accountable. Make up your mind. The "can't we move on" or the "President needs to work on more important things..." Like more golf and more Reggie Love?
I'm pretty sure it's Honey Boo-Boos new dress.
Your alias suits you well.
Yeah, cause knowingly abandoning US diplomatic staff to being murdered in plane sight is just so irrelevant.
And what is going to be done about it? Are you 55 year old couch-potato gonna do something about it? No? So STFU!
Cass? Cass Sunstein? Is that you, again? Ya'dirty old motherfucking dog!!
Are you experiencing another epileptic fit? Poor boy.
The Red Team versus Blue Team thing still works exceedingly well as a distraction. The Blue Team fucked up and tried to cover its ass, and the Red Team sees this as an opportunity to hurt a potential 2016 presidential candidate while also squashing the idea that we can have any cuts in defense spending.
No matter what comes out of this hearing, though, we'll continue sliding further into debt as our liberties gradually evaporate. The two teams are simply fighting over who gets to control the train. The track we're on never changes, and the destination is the same regardless of who does the steering.
Lesser of two evils, Molotov cocktail. I'm allying with the red team because they're less evil and less hell bent on socializing the country.
FOR NOW.
Supporting the lesser of two evils always results in a gradual slide toward evil. It's why this country has been in a state of decline for a long time, regardless of which team was in charge.
Obama and the dems are able to do what they're doing now because of Bush and the pubs before them. So you may feel better knowing that you voted for the team that drove us off the cliff at "only" 50mph instead of 70mph, but we're still screwed either way.
Why support either side at his point? It's ultimately a slap-fight between a bunch of brainiacs like Ed Schultz and Sean Hannity, and we're all made more stupid by participating.
There isn't a difference betweeen both teams because 100% of one and 80% of the other want bigger Govt. or more Govt control. That doesn't mean that there isn't a difference in ideology and it doesn't negate the fact that the culture has been steadily moving further and further left since WWII. Look how far left we've come, to follow the Constitution and the priciples of our founders is now considered radical.
Fascism is on the right.
Fascism is on both sides of socialism. Few people understand the liberty and personal responsibility that comes from limited govt.
'Fascism is on both sides of socialism.' 100% correct.
'Few people understand the liberty and personal responsibility that comes from limited govt.' And even fewer people understand that the GOP will never allow limited govt. to happen.
True, there's too many frauds in the GOP to ever allow limited govt. to happen. But they do have a larger base of limited govt supporters. They get suckered into voting for the wrong person but at least they try :)
"Fascism is on both sides of socialism."
What does that mean?
Fascism is the marriage of big government, big business, big union, etc.
Examples of fascism in current events would be the internet sales tax. It helps big business and big government but hurts individuals.
Fascism is not a right wing thing. It belongs to both parties who support more war and more welfare.
Thanks for clarifying that, Ray.
The Nolan Chart makes more sense than Right versus Left.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nolan_Chart
Not really. Fascism is rather syncretic in nature but I'd place it more on the left. The Nazi party performed best in areas where the Left was historically and is currently strongest while it performed poorly in the monarchist/classically liberal areas of southern and western Germany. It also did incredibly well with state employees. Hmm.
That doesn't mean that there isn't a difference in ideology...
I'd argue that the only difference in ideology today is found among the voters, not the parties. The parties themselves are concerned first and foremost with power, both how to obtain it and how to hold on to it.
If you talk to Republican and Democrat voters, you'll notice that they do have legitimate differences. But those differences are easily brushed aside by politicians in their quest for control, so voting red or blue becomes an exercise in futility because the march toward statism is intertwined with the desire for power that now grips both political parties.
Politics changed forever once people figured out they could vote themselves bananas. Todays sheep don't view it as a battle between liberty and state power, they keep looking to govt for answers . Of course the broken centrally planned govt will blame anyone but themselves. I don't know if we can reset the liberty system we once had, the founders said it wouldn't be easy.
"A little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical."
—Jefferson
"if we can reset the liberty system ..."
STOP Do not renew the Federal Reserve System's Charter. They had their chance. Now is the time.
Back to real money. Constitutional money.
The Constitution states in Article I, section 8;
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;
This power was given over to the Banking cartel in 1913 and the only way we can reset is to take back that power and repeal the set of laws giving the FR System unelected authority over us all.
EndtheFed
But how do you end the welfare state that was created as a result of the progressives, the FED and the FR system. The sheep will sooner hang you if you theaten to take away their govt candy than their politicians or bankers.
you one a them constitutional extremists, son?
GK Chesterton said, "anything worth doing is worth doing poorly."
It took my about 8 years to understand that.
The central issue isn't the parties themselves. It's the elected representatives of our country, regardless of their party affiliation.
Certain vacuous morons are drawn towards one party more than the other -- which happens ironically enough, to be the jackasses.
Republicans by-and-large believe in a few things that hold true to my self understandings. They don't think that God and religion are campaigning platforms to be manipulated and become elective tools. They can tell the difference -- for the most part -- between people that can't work and people that won't work. And they aren't postmodern. Regardless of their personal flaws, they believe in morality and absolute truth, not secular humanism or postmodern ironic virtue.
As much as the majority of this forum doesn't like it -- the train is being driven by two parties, and bitching constantly and trolling and debbie-downing isn't going to produce any change. It's a train we're all on, and I think most of us know, it sucks and our wallets are becoming thinner.
Instead of following Nader and Paul pipe-dreams, libertarian teaparties and goldbugging -- we have to go about fixing our malcontent by reforming and allying with a driver, we can propose and follow a new driver; quantitative change will happen when not trying to reinvent the wheel. How loud is one black sheep's voice amidst the clamor of a million sheeple? If the driver represents our long term replacement candidate in a more pure way, that replacement candidate will eventually have more of a chance.
The Durden's avatar and caricature is based on movie made from the cynical Palahniuk novel. That's two levels of fantasy, one a novel, and two a movie -- both fiction. It's not reality, folks.
So no -- we aren't going to have a zombie apocalypse, no matter how many violent, society-isolated wetdreams forumists may have - we aren't going back to the old west where all of the paranoid doomsday preppers and militia hopefuls and armament builders and anarchy wishers hope we're going -- we need to achieve real change in the reality of our current economy and circumstances.
In short, this forum has become polluted with conspiracy theorists, jew haters, weapons hoarders and hard commodity nuts looking for an excuse to justify and rationalize their withdrawal from society and their eccentricity and video game reality.
When really, most of us need to slow down, read the Durden's entire posts instead of posting one liners to be first in the comment thread. How about comparing the material from two different perspectives and be thoughtful and compelling and within society to bring about change.
Don't get me wrong, I've gone way beyond hedging my soft investments with hard commodity, I'm 80% precious metals, physical, not futures. I'm also not living in a book, a movie or my own mind.
The end.
I'll be in the Club car getting shitfaced.
This is nothing but another diversion from the important questions that we should be facing now.
Like whether covering up a preventable murder of an ambassador is more or less impeachable than sharing a cigar with a girl in a room next to the oval office?
Hillbama
http://i.imgur.com/0Er0Tgl.png
The first thing that came to mind seeing that was "Lipstick on a pig". LOL.
Nice picture h_h. At least he wasn't bowing...
Every time I see this bitch I am reminded of what dried up nasty old cunt she is
We need that kind of teachers. Desperately.
dollars? I said gold.Have a nice day.
What are you implying with this guilt-by-association photo: that Qaddafi was in on his own downfall and bloody death? You're a fucking moron.
Which man is/was the terrorist? Which man is/was the freedom fighter?
Not sure who the terrorists and freedom fighters are, but I know we have met the enemy, and it is us.
-- "All these folks aren't her for no reason." <-- Double negative ineffective rhetoric, anyone?
BTW -- FUCK YOU HILLARY -- Capital Hill's foreign policy and foreign intelligence committees are about as self honest as radical Islamists.
I'm so sick of this "This is an outrage and will be addressed accordingly," political rational vernacular post hoc ergo propter hoc BULLSHIT.
It's time for Americans to get educated and vote these pretending, lying fucks out of office so our foreign interests are protected and represented by honest, God fearing Americans, not postmodern soulless agnostics with moral compasses pointed to their pocket books and fame meters.
You speak as if the votes in this country arn't being manipulated for the outcomes they desire.
Until American's learn to think for themselves, we will all continue to be manipulated.
More than 300 people lost their lives, due to terrorist attacks in Beirut during Reagan’s watch. Was the Reagan administration negligent? Was President Reagan directly responsible for those deaths? Was he “soft” on terrorism?
There Have Been At Least 15 Attacks On U.S. Embassies And Consulates Since 1979 -- Including Seven Under George W. Bush. U.S. embassies and consulates were attacked at least 15 times under the presidencies of Carter, Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Clinton, and George W. Bush. Seven of those attacks occurred during the presidency of George W. Bush.
Being interviewed by Geraldo Rivera of Fox News, General Jack Keane basically debunked the theory that more could have been done to conduct a timely rescue mission at the U.S. consulate in Libya or that the President somehow screwed up or was incompetent. Here are some of the General’s direct quotes:
“The consulate was stormed”.
“There was no gunships in the region”.
“There was nothing that could have prevented it”.
“It was over in about an hour”.
“Forces got there as soon as possible”.
“To politicize this is very hurtful”.
And that general is lying his fucking blown-out ass off.
Clearly, Taint, you don't know much about/haven't spent much time with Mil guys. Here's the rule: *any* officer above the rank of Major/Lt. Cmdr got that eagle/stripe/star(s) by playing politics. You can be Audie Murphy or Dick Winters or Mitchell Paige or Sgt. Rock, and it doesn't matter: if you don't suck up and kiss upper brass ass - unless there's a world war going on - you ain't getting promoted. Period.
So now a general, a guy who is *by definition* exactly as much a political asshole as any scumbucket congressman is, comes out and sucks up to his bosses by "defending" them, despite the fact the real soldiers involved have contradicted _every single thing he said_. Hmmmm.... who to trust on this one.......think, think....
Yeah, I know …….just throwing a little gasoline on the fire to stir things up a bit.
Not that I defend Reagan much, but he and his people didn't come up with some bullshit, "a movie caused it" excuse. Furthermore; if our troops had been under a sustained attack in lebanon, they would have fought back, and probably had support from other units in the region.
The State Department is filled with CIA moles at every embassy. These people were left to die and be murdered and then they covered it up, lied about it, threatened witness and on and on. Obama made a speech to the UN about the evils of YouTube to try to cover it up. These ****ers are evil.
The CIA hasn't improved the lives of the average American, (or the average non-American either). It is a criminal organization, much worse than the mafia. Ditto MI5 and Mossad.
Let's ask this question another way:
Blaming people isn't really important MOST of the time, but people do need to be held accountable, particularly in politics. So in this case, who is accountable?
So what if you're a fan or not - who is accountable?
Frankly, I say it's the President for one reason, Hillary held Bush accountable (correctly) for Abu Ghraib. But Rumsfeld fell on the sword. Hillary didn't fall on the sword, except rhetorically, and then said "what difference would it make?"
It would have made a hell of a lot of difference. And the fact is there were rapid response troops within a 4 hour flight that could've arrived to help out when the battle lasted almost 9 hours.
As long as we keep saying nobody can be held responsible 'because', then we abdicate all responsibility for all acts of ignorance and uncaring.
"What difference does it make?" was the question that Bill asked Hillary when she found out about his ramming cigars up Lewinski.
Hillary's been mumbling that line about everything ever since.
"What difference does it make?" was the question that Bill asked Hillary when she found out about his ramming cigars up Lewinski.
Hillary's been mumbling that line about everything ever since."
Actually the phrase that was given to the press by the Ragin' Cajun Jimmy the "freak" Carville to parrot and the sheep followed was "SO WHAT"
"What difference does it make?" is just another phrase to wave around so that mind numbed retarded folks can stare at the teevee with eye's glazed over and say; "Yea man, What difference does it make" and yes republicans are just as complicit in government fuck ups and as long as government has a monopoly on force there ain't a god damn thing you can do about it.
@ Iridium, si quiere conversar sobre C America (etc.), gmail me at my moniker.
Si, estudio para mi examinaciones de universidad ahora. Manana tengo mas tiempo gratis. Gracias para toda amigo.
i Que diferrenciones que lo hace !?!?!?!?!?
At least post in Latin...
...or Ebonics.
Shiiii.....wha mufuckin difrince itgon mayk? Where my McDonal cheeburger fool?
No, it doesn't. Mistakes happen. Get over it.
I accidentally forgot to fix those brake lines on the vehicle your daughter just brought to me. I figured it out about a day ago, but was too lazy to drop you a line. Sorry about her dying. What difference does it make?
I upvoted you because you must have been sarcastic.
It's the lie. There's no inflation, little unemployment and certainly no terrorists carrying out pre-mediated attacks on certain anniversary dates. Everything is beautiful, peace out and enjoy the new iphone.
I'm curious what, if any, difference are you referring to?
Option a: they discredit Hillary, Biden is an idiot, GOP wins 2016.
Option b: nothing of import results from the testimony, Hillary escapes the flames, Biden pulls out of the running because of horrific polling and it's obvious the Dems want the wicked witch, she soundly defeats the GOP and becomes potus.
Neither a GOP or Clinton victory changes a single thing of consequence. The govt. is bought, the 1% need to impoverish the masses to the point they'll embrace slavery, and the majority of Americans are not only asleep but in all honesty completely uninterested fucking imbeciles.
Nat'l debt 22 trillion- 60 million on food stamps- youth unemployment 35%- FED balance sheet a cool 7 trillion- interest rates at (-0.3% )- war with Iran ( after we invade Syria of course )- austerity- civil unrest ( after a good "Cyprusing" of American depositors, destruction of civil liberties, and veritable gutting of the Bill of Rights )....... and imo this is an extremely conservative prediction.
The worst case...... I don't want to even consider.
Edit: I concede to Sheep-dog, that with regard to the families that lost loved ones, some measure of closure and recompense might result. I was speaking in broad strokes.
Come on, don't sugar coat it.
<Now what's the "bad" news?>
Tough love, man. Truth hurts.
I pray that we somehow find a path out of the tar pit we're in. I have a daughter on the way. You think I want the world this fucked up? I'm not seeing a whole lot of unicorns and lollipops on the horizon.
Dude, not EVERYTHING is about politics or the economy.
The people serving our nation overseas deserve better than this.
Too bad you have been without human warmth so long you have apparently forgtten this simple fact.
JB. We ALL deserve better than this.
I've done the time with wounded warriors, transported a multitude of these poor guys with cancer from depleted uranium or blown off limbs, and given 'em hugs when they've broken down, so screw you and my apparent lack of warmth.
This hearing is pure political brinksmanship and certainly not going to change a thing where political gains / expediency are considered more important than human life.
consider the worst case, because it is what you will probably get.....
What difference does it make? Apparently none, if you're a dried up old whore....but tell it to the families of the people who were killed there while the State Dept did nothing...denied request for more security, denied special forces assistance. Govt for, by, and of, whores.
You mean we should prosecute politicians whose poor judgment leads to American deaths?
Well, I'm in. Let's start by quantity - which would put our focus squarely on Bush, Cheney and their administration. Ready to go on that? I sure am.
'Dead men tell no truth..'
Ouch! How true. How cynical. Run, Obitchez...!
No unicorns and rainbows here. But I'm sure there's a silver lining somewhere?
...bottom of the lake.
;)
Super. Comment of the day!
'Dead men tell no truth..'
Bill and Hillarious refer to that as a 'Fosterism'.
Fuck you Cliton (no n)
you too obama
hillary is so hot when she's angry
Funny, i think of her more as an ugly villianous 'Cruella De Vil' type of cunt.
It's just too bad she doesn't burst into flames. I guess she's been hanging out with Satan too long so she's fire resistant.
Since this is a congressional hearing, Hillary's probably experiencing roid rage á la Roger Clemens.
Yes, very sexy
nasty dried up old cunt
Vince Foster would not agree
"What difference does it make." H. Clinton.
Never forget that line. In fact, find the tape and post it here, Tyler. It was very revealing then and remains so now...about the failed nature of the political status quo in this country. None of them ever seem to contemplate that their various failures should have consequences assigned to them.
These are our leaders. These corrupt and incompetent fools, making war all over the world, spending money that can never be repaid, writing laws as fast as they can to control the people, stocking up on ammunition and armoured vehicles...these bumbling idiots...all of them backed in perpetuity by none other than Ben Bernanke via the destruction of our currency if only to stay in power another day, another week, another election cycle.
Rome is in flames.
Cdad, what a great response, +1000. These PEOPLE, and i use the term loosely, are the power hungry vultures who we've all known throughout our lives. Even as we were children, there was always the one kid that would do anything to get ahead of the others. From squealing, to cheating and lying, to any self serving rationale to get ahead of the herd. The problem as i see it is that these turds have all floated to the top of the cesspool, and now are our "leaders". From the unnaccountable ranks of the congress, to the fraudulent centerpiece of the president. The WHOLE clusterfuck that we call "government" is infested with the Hillary's, Obama's, Reids, Pelosis, Boehners, & like minded cohorts. They lie, propagandasize, kill, and wage war at everyone elses expense. They have no bounds to their lawlessness, because they make the laws. They can spend money relentlessly, because they print the money. They are ALL in command now, and will not relinquish that ill gotten control over all of us until the sheeple are starving, (and i, or any of us knows when that tipping point will occur). I think EVERYTHING in our lives as it concerns to anything political, ie. voting, hearings, etc. are scripted and screened to pull the proverbial wool over the sheeps eyes, until there is no wool left to pull. Same goes for the economic disaster we're engulfed in. It's ALL outta control. It's a sad situation becoming a dire pessimist after being a lifelong optimist........... from totally pissed in almost heaven.
SGOREM,
+1,000,000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR3XTOjZPfg
Yeah but the people hiding in the shadows are the real power. The mega billionaires. The European banskter tribe families.
Govt of, by, and for whores.
"These are our leaders" Well no, not really, they are our elected servants and we need to stop calling them "our leaders". You see part of the deception is to convince us all we live under democratic form of government and not a Constitutional Republic and them dumbasses our our "leaders" because I sure the fuck don't follow them. If anything this is more like being a part of a Bataan Death March and they happen to be in front.
it isn't terrorism when the cia is know to be involved, then
it is national security and systemically important to
maintain the fiscal and monetary control exercised by their
employer, the owner's of the federal reserve and all the other
industrial complexes.
(*yawn*...) For some reason this whole non-issue gets the patriotic military-loving statists all upset and crying, gnashing their teeth...
What did they expect? It's a GOVERNMENT.
Meanwhile, the economy is in meltdown and living standards are plunging...
Yes, it is the statists like Hillary that get all upset and crying out "What difference does it make?" for they might get called to account, much like the economy, where they prefer to kick the can, than do something that would make a difference, like prosecute their bankster bundlers.
Hillary will be getting a new sign made for her desk, based on the sign that Harry Truman had:
"THE BUCK STOPS THERE -> "
I must not think crticially.
Critical thinking is the mind-killer.
Critical thinking is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my critical thinking.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the the critical thinking has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.
My entrée to sci-fi, and still my favorite sci-fi series.
Awsome Spas....
+1000 Spas
"We are all Fremen now"
Clearly the only solution is to spend moar money on the military and build moar impenetrable castle-like embassies all around the world.
There is an unintended consequence of their actions, an unknown psycho among them that believes in the scorched earth policy.
All it takes is one at the right place & time.
It is an issue when the President's Representative, ie the Ambassador gets murdered in a terrorist attack in a foreign country, where we had just intervened to bring these terrorists into power, while at the same time trying to bring other similar terrorists into power in Syria using weapons run out of Libya.....This same President claims that some innocent film maker is responsible, and that no one could have forseen a "terrorist attack" on say a date like 9-11....
This same Prez who when informed of the attack (that will last 8 hours or longer) leaves and is not seen again till the next day at a campaign rally across the country. We are told that neither the Pres or Hillary requested the military intervene, even though we had resources in country that were not only not deployed, they were ordered to stand down...WTF??? We had NATO bases 1 hour flight time away in Italy. The Admiral of the Med Fleet is relieved of command during the attack, why? The General in charge of Africom is relieved that morning, why? Did they refuse the order to "Stand Down??" Did they send assets that led the Seals on the annex roof to believe that help was nearby and start lasing targets that led to their deaths...These same Seals that had ignored the Stand Down order in Tripoli, and commandeered a plane to Benghazzi to assist in the evacuation of embassy personnel...
So Nixon has to leave office over a 3rd rate burglary of the political opposition, no one died, no one was smuggling arms from one country to another in violation of numerous treaties. But to you this is a non-issue??? Clinton was almost impeached for lying to a grand jury over sex with an intern....OMG, of all the things to leave office over, Watergate or Monica this is 3000 X worse......
BHO is a traitor. Hillary Clinto is a POS....Knowing to what extent, or lack of extent they can be trusted or believed, may cause the rest of their anti-gun, free-immigration and welfare for all agendas to crash and burn. That would matter despite what Hillary and you claim.....String em up!!!
+1,000,000
I had no idea about the admiral and the general.
Any links to share? I'd like to see that.
Google
"Benghazzi and military leaders relieved of command" and you'll get several
Thanks.
From Snopes:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/benghazi.asp
Washington Times:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-report/2012/oct/28/general-l...
Apparently, the admiral was fired for being a horrible persont to work for:
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/apr/15/navy-inspector-general-gaouette/
What were you doing in someone else's country in the first place?
As long as you continue to glorify the military and state power over others these things will continue to happen.