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Friendly Reminder: CNBC Viewership Plunges To Eight Year Lows
Update: we decided it may be an opportune time to remind readers of this particular fact... not opinion, not propaganda, not insinuation. Fact, which apparently has forced a once informative medium, and now purely propaganda infomercial, to stoop so low to be in need of trolling websites to generate incremental eyeballs.
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By now it is well known that the ubiquity of central planning (not to mention the persistent threat of HFT flash crashes as exhibited by yesterday's twitter-driven #Hash crash) in capital "markets", has made trading stocks in a rigged casino a sucker's game - one that retail investors have decided to shun, and nearly 5 years after Lehman have still to come back in any size to the stock market.
One of the main, unintended consequences of this development to prop up markets at all costs, even if it means removing all logic and reliance on fundamental data, has been the complete evaporation of interest in any finance-related media, forcing the bulk of financial outlets to rely on such cheap gimmicks as slideshows, pictures of kittens, trolling and generally hiring liberal arts majors straight out of school to copy and paste articles while paying them minimum wage, and providing absolutely no insight (and then wondering why the Series ZZ preferred investors will never get their money back, let alone the A round).
However, nowhere is this more obvious than in the relentless imploding viewership of once financial media titan, CNBC, which lately has become a sad, one-sided caricature of its once informative self, whose only agenda is to get the most marginal Joe Sixpack to dump his hard-earned cash into 100x P/E stocks, and where according to data from Nielsen Media Research, the total and demographic (25-54) viewership during the prime time segment (9:30am - 5:00 pm) just tumbled to 216K and 40K - the lowest recorded viewership since mid 2005 and sliding.
So why the relentless collapse in CNBC viewers, which in turns leads to plunging ad revenues (aside from our observations from last summer on just this topic) and which has forced the station to even resort to muppets as a cheap ratings-boosting gimmick? Perhaps it has something to do with outbursts like this, where 13 minutes into the clip, one Jim Cramer tells the camera point blank when discussing daily market gyrations, and with absolutely no remorse, that "i want everyone to play that game at home by recognizing that fraud is part of the equation and the government cannot stop it."
That's right: on one hand CNBC's most overcaffeinated anchor admits that the market is nothing but uncontrollable fraud, and on the other he beckons viewers and listeners, usually with the assistance of assorted bovine sounds, to "buy, buy, buy."
Perhaps the greater fool is truly dead, or simply the embedded hypocrisy of the CNBC stock "infomercial" is so transparent that nobody really cares what the Comcast subsidiary's paid entertainers have to say any more.
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First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then you punch them in the face.
Who is interested in watching official State propaganda? How is CNBC different than North Korea's media?
Maybe if one or two take it in the ass live on air..
Will that help?
Virgin airways is introducing see through tops...maybe CNBC should do the same?
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/397831/Sir-Richard-Branson-bra-wars-over-girls-see-through-tops
that's about virgin trains, but i would commend virgin atlantic for pushing see-through tops, as frankly, their planes are incredibly ordinary
Sadly, Bloomberg TV is actually worse if that is possible. Between the pompous Bowtied buffoon or the high pitched nasally Emily Westworld Chang BBG has devolved into a facebook/Apple/ and whatever is the stock of the day infomercial when it isn't laying the foundations for the tiny perfect Mayor's eventual run for the Oval office.
But at least it's free to watch online but then you get what you pay for.
it's free to watch online.
so are the stock and FX recommendations made by goldman sachs.
Ironically, looking at the above-chart, it appears that CNBC would benefit from another market crash...
hft's killing the retail guy will do that to viewing.
So what about a ZH Cable Channel to tell the truth?
Would be great to see, but it would have to be a subscriber model - you're not going to get any advertisers by telling the truth.
half of the viewership is banks lobbies; da-really, like fuck this in the ass.
hey joe-blow-KERNEL BRAIN - FUCK OFF...
if i f'd with the "market" anymore, i would short google..
idiots just blew their brand to pieces
GBTV is looking to add talent...
Capital idea my friend! Who cares if the drop-dead ZHTV money-honeys understand what they are reading or not in those golden cheerleading outfits....
i love zh as much as the next guy, and certainly spend my share of spare time on this site, but with all due respect, zh is just as biased as cnbc, but just the opposite direction.
one should never get all his/her news from one source.
Only if they bring back Marla!
Still looking for the app.
CNBS = Joseph Goebbels wet dream!
threadjack....do the numbers include CNBC.com?
ZH Financial news network....nice ring to it
Why not? It definitely boosts sales.
As a young tad I worked a beach bar and the owner tried having the waitresses wear sheer tops (no bra).
Sales went up about 40% and stayed there. The tips almost doubled. Any waitress grumbling ceased.
Ta-tas are a winner.
Stews are wage-earners; every dollar increase goes to the bosses.
Now, if there was a wage-differential, a skin bonus, then we might be talking...
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Becky Quick does what ever Buffett wants...so maybe.
Are you suggesting that Becky would strap on?
nice..
Follow the FED. Inflate.....the cleavage
Sara Eisen would . . . and did
http://www.thejanedough.com/bloomberg-reporter-dress/
Becky Quickie and the rest are impressed by big money. Rather than being objective and hard-hitting CNBS has become pump channel 1 and Balloonberg is pump channel 2.
Show your tit's Mandy.... More Cowbell...
oh that stupid accent.
Becky Quike getting oral cream pies from all the guests in the morning, ratings would go to infinity and beyond.
Bukkake Becky
Bartiromo has a great set of DSL!
While opening a can of soup with those teeth of hers...
OOooooo! Good idea! Do we get to pick?
Maybe one of the Tylers (the one in Miami?) can get a ZH spot and go tete-a-tete with Cramer?
Monetary & Fiscal OCTAGON, baby! In the Blue-pill corner we have... and in the Red-pill corner we have...
It's insufferable. Both CNBC and Bloomberg Radio have become informercials for stocks. Absolutely 0 value.
cnbc were continuously blabbering about "great value" and "undervalued equities" back in 2008-2009 - ie, it's always sell-side, never actually taking an objective side at bull vs bear
who is this cnbs and bloomberg that everyone talks about? I must check my TV's channel block status...
it's a little known fact that cnbc were formerly known as "amazing discoveries" and used to run on late night TVs in the 80'es.
tar? ink? rust? iodine? didi7 gets rid of them all!
According to The BlowHorn[CNBC], it's all Tyler Durden's fault.
Wild swinging round house punches, catching nothing but air. If anyone was on still on the fence regarding The BlowHorn, Joe Kernan made all things abundantly clear this morning.
Way to go COMCAST! Way to ship shape that dying network...that you...errrrr....bought.
Coming up with the name BlowHorn was genius Cdad. Thx...
I believe the term is "Digital Dickweeds" LOL.
Quite sickening. Your brain can only take so much of the BS before you start to look new or information which looks be factual.
"It's insufferable. Both CNBC and Bloomberg Radio have become informercials for stocks. Absolutely 0 value."
Actually, as an engineer (good with numbers, right?), all you have to do is "Follow the money trail".
"If it pays, it stays. If it don't, it won't". You can quote me on that.
So, is there an ETF for dilithium crystal futures?
Or there's Comedy Central.
Not so funny is the fact most drones get their dose of propaganda from that network.
Na Waldens pushing tech stock at least charlie had a real job.
CNBC has the freedom to fuck the people of this country by way of incessant propaganda. North Korean media is coerced into fucking the people of their country with misinformation.
Ultimately people get fucked one way or the other.
maybe CNBS will need a bailout of their own and the fed will come to the rescue, since debt = money
Sure this post has nothing to do with this morning's buyfest punctuated by the Tyler is an idiot jab on CNBC. BUY BUY BUY!!!
Then you punch them in the face.
If it's your first time....you gotta fight.
You'd think with Dow 15k, more people would watch them than watch porn.
Hahahahahaa!
FUCK YOU CNBC! You asshats giggle and mock and laugh at us physical gold and silver buyers when your bullion bank cronies crush the price. You point at the April 2013 metals charts and say "told you so" and ignore the completely fake stock, bond, and housing markets. You lie with every breath you can muster for your corporate masters and it is totally transparent as evidenced by the above chart. Yeah...well go ahead and try to BTFD on your viewership now assholes.
If some other channel just had a blank screen with stock tickers running across the bottom with no commentary it would have a larger viewership than cnbc. Someone should jump on that.
If they had cartoons playing above the tickers it would become a most watched channel.
They couldn't show Wile E Coyote go off the cliff.
Everyone would question why he falls but the "markets" do not.
pods
if they allowed those unemployed 25-40 or whatever bracket to have a split screen where one side was CNBS and the other was call of duty then ratings would go thru the roof
I'm very happy that no one watches these blowhard bullshit artist fluffers for Wall St criminals!
I'd be very interested to see the above charted against the S&P....
Could not happen to a more MARXIST network.They have ZERO creds w/anyone in the know.Evidently folks are sick of the LibTardation Stations.
Never has a network more needed a guy like Mark Haines than CNBC does now. I loved that salty bastard blowing up people's "beautiful story" business models.
Joe Kernen might be the guy you have a beer with but he comes off as a lightweight too often.
Mark Haines was okay but I remember this clearly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLVOdd2Y6ok
- I changed the clip. Wrong clip before sorry.
I think Haines was tapping into the fact Gold was not a front burner concern for J6PK, possibly giving Shiff the opportunity to explain why it is or could be.
May he rest in peace.
I am not going to trample on the guy because he certainly can't defend himself now, and may he rest in peace. But I will leave it at, If you are right I would have hoped he could have went about it better.
If he was buying the beer I might have a beer with him, then steal his girlfriend.
You're going to steal Andrew Ross Sorkin?
BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Taterboy with a three-run Tater....out of the park onto Waveland Avenue...
***Joe Kernen might be the guy you have a beer with***
Kernen is relentless at pushing the corporate message, a pure propagandist. And I wouldn't have a beer with some guy who pimps his kid to sell a book!
The last phase of the bubble is when even its proponents realize it's a bubble even as they shill it to the end
Dr Benway .... the sign of a true ponzi. The 'true believers' will defend them even to the moment the command to 'fire' is given to the firing squad.
nah, it's when people get on it because "they can't afford to miss it". they never realize it was a bubble until it's imploding.
unless it's gold, of course. then suddenly the entire media become experts. it's almost as if there's some sort of agenda.
They could gain 10,000 viewers by making Liesman wear a paper bag over his ugly mug.
I was thinking more like a dildo super-glued to the forehead
- the financial guru unicorn
or better yet one on each side of his bald head - they would wobble and flop around as he moved that bowling ball shaped head.
- the financial satan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE-WTzYD0Us
I'd like to see Andrew Ross Sorkin and Maria Bartiromo host a two hour discussion with panelists Antal Feteke, John Williams, Peter Schiff, and Reggie Middleton. I'd prolly go to the studio for that melee.
Better a tight plastic bag.
If they had any brains, they would sell this unprofitable Boat-Anchor to Glenn Beck's the Blaze and rename it the Blaze Financial and make it 24/7 that would rock Bloomberg's world. Now that team would get-r-done and make a real network out of it. Keep the Money-Honey and Santelli, as far as the rest of them to coin the Donald, "Your Fired!".........
Cripes. The Glenn Beck Financial Network?
"Buy from Goldline. OBAMA's A COMMIE AND EATS THE FOUNDERS' LIVERS FOR BREAKFAST AND WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!! Did I mention Goldline? - They're a sponsor."
If CNBC and other corporate mouthpieces were presented on paper at least you could wipe your ass with it.
Wow, CNBS is losing viewership almost as fast as the Republican party is losing participants.
If the GOP doesn't stop the online sales tax they might as well get DNC donkey "tramp stamp" tattoos and be done with it.
Look closely, that tramp stamp tat has been on so long it's already starting to blur. Ever since they agreed to give stuff away for 'free' and promote enormous government only to prolong self-serving careers.
pro bailout republicans are not republicans
Indeed. And therein lies a very painful problem: the Republican Party is flush with non-Republicans. Meanwhile, true Constitutional warriors like Gary Johnson and Ron Paul are torpedoed by the Leviathan.
'The centre cannot hold...'
The dems and reps already have tramp stamps on their backs that are eerily similar: an eye in a pyramid and a dollar sign inside a penatgram above Alfred E Neuman saying "Who Me?"
...makes a good target for the Banksters they bend over for after the pull-out...
Tyler:
Keep up the good work. Kernan dissing you is a sign of major progress.
Time is on your side
Tyler probably paid for that plug.
His dream is for CNBC to sponsor 'two minutes of hate for Zero Hedge' every day!
Whack us again, Joe ... harder!
It's actually possible. CNBC whored themselves out and let Fox news steamroll them with ad's on their own channel.
What did Joe have to say?
Nothing. Gratuitous hate.
I didn't hear it but I'll bet it went something like this: If you listen to the doom-and-gloom idiots on ZeroHedge you would have missed this entire rally since the March 2009 lows.
Am I close?
Kernan acted like he did not really know who Tyler Durden/ZH was. Who's that guy, from that movie, that is now a bunch of guys? Nice try. Sorkin was pretty much like -- please don't poke the bear across the picnic table.
(Yes I watch in the AM for the releases, have done so for a decade, and enjoy, apparently, being part of a very small club)
Marginal viewers want to see a train wreck market, not a bunch of smug fuck snake oil salesmen all smiling and happy.
Saw the ZH mention earlier.
Hey joe kernen, youre an ignorant fucking dolt.
kernan and the msm are dinosaurs
Seriously, how could anyone, even if you are completely illiterate pass time watching an impish clown like Cramer? He is such a jackoff, a complete train wreck of a human being. At least a few of the women have decent hooters like Drury and Carbrera. And that crew of jerkoffs that is on early in the mornings is really pathetic. Some middle aged smartass named kernan, a punk yuppie and of course the financial retard Squickey pumping the Buffett meme. Not a critical thought amongst them, like Hey Warren aren't you really just a crony capitalist?
The amount of bankster semen that's gets swallowed to keep this station on the air is incredible.
the financial retard Squickey pumping the Buffett meme.
That thar is eight funny words.
Eeeewww.
That last sentence does not go with morning coffee AT ALL.
good for the skin though.
"We don't have a cow."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUtSazFb5qM
No reason for violence.
Most recently we see misinformation,outright lies,superfulous fluff,non business reporting,self-serving guests and,the list goes on and on.
CNBC has long foregone reporting business and news.Self destruction is in offing.
Bloomberg is shifting same direction also.
And Bloomberg, the mayor, is a cunt, pumping millions into politial causes in ripe states (gun control etc in Colorado). The network is probably ahead of CNBC in direction seeing as he probably has a strategy to undo any remaining freedoms he feels get in the way of 'what is best'. Can't wait til he runs for President...and he'll take the fools in NY for 93% of the vote. Can we finally admit that New York is for assholes.
The money honeys are all dried up. No wonder the bees are all dieing
I like the hot asian anchors on the international segment that airs at night. Also, the blonde from Australia who anchors the Australian show. Need more of that and less of the clowns.
that oz blonde who hosts the oz show is an empty bottle head..probaby cleans her teeth with something shoved up her rear :)
We ZHers may not be able to stop the money printers, the lies, the endless manipulation or the theft directly - but we sure as hell can turn off CNBC and not visit the propaganda website.
For those who can't help themselves from watching the CNBC train wreck, at least make sure your cable box is on another channel when your TV is off.
Since we know that there are CNBC producers and/or behind-the-scenes hacks following ZH, I'm curious to see if they will post some anonymous rationalization or just sit quietly in the fetal position and tweak their resumes. And I wonder further if they ever contemplate the fact that they are willing contributors to a propaganda war that has sentenced the country and the world to a protracted, worsening depression and, ultimately, the full brunt of bankruptcy.
What say you?
Not to mention tryannical debt slavery and death, ala Hunger Games.
I'd pay to see that....(in FRN's)...
Lots of people no longer have 401Ks or stocks to worry about, so why watch?
Yeah, but they do have the NINJ requirement to flip a house.
Oh, wait. HGTV has it covered.
won't See Ya Later CNBS!
Wow, this is one sentence:
One of the main, unintended consequences of this development to prop up markets at all costs, even if it means removing all logic and reliance on fundamental data, has been the complete evaporation of interest in any finance-related media, forcing the bulk of financial outlets to rely on such cheap gimmicks as slideshows, pictures of kittens, trolling and generally hiring liberal arts majors straight out of school to copy and paste articles while paying them minimum wage, and providing absolutely no insight (and then wondering why the Series ZZ preferred investors will never get their money back, let alone the A round).
FWIW Zerohedge: you are the new finance-related media, and God Bless You TOO!!
It could be that most of their anchors that were saying or asking anything interesting have died (Haynes) left (Insana) or been moved on out (Ratigan).
The article makes a weak case, the graphic is not explained, and what Cramer says is true, he is not saying the market as a whole is a fraud, which is the article's tone. It is impossibly costly to remover all fraud, yes.
Insane??????
Are you insana??????
Got a serious hangover.....damn.
Maria, the queen bingo caller, of cnbc has a husband that owns and runs an etf company. How objective is she? His former job was running a penny stock hedge fund that blew up after it was discovered that his positions were all marked for purposes of generating that 20% fee.
cnbc is toats. One more event on wall st., and they wont be able to give away stock free. And cnbc will cease to exist.
I try to figure out who is their biggest, most lying pumper. I think it's a toss up between Kernan, Bartaromo, and Sue "Chubby Cheeks" Herrara.
I NEVER watch their show, even with the sound off. And, don't think for a second you get financial news faster from them then the internet. Twitter is the game now.
Of course, all the cnbc rats got rich helping wall st rob the publc.
Well put! I will feel a little remorse when Santelli gets let go but I'm sure he'll land on his feet.
I hope CNBC play the on air dispute between Carl Icahn and the JCP dickhead for an hour today while they try to figure out what else to talk about.
Tyler I hope you leave this as the top article from here on out.
I'm waiting for Carl to whip it out with a tape measure and challenge a measuring contest. I'll be watching Becky's expression since she likes the smell of old money.
How dare you try to impose reality on people. Think of it like MTV for gen Y, Comedy Channel for college students getting their politics, or Jerry Springer for the trailer folk to understand interpersonal relationships.
The Muppet investors deserve their own network. It's their right to be just as misinformed as everyone else.
I think somewhere in the constitution it even says this.
I wouldn't watch either, but the knob on the turret tuner snapped off back during the dot-com crisis.
what's a tv?
CNBwho again??
Don't watch CNNobody either.
Hey, I know! maybe J6P is waking up... took long enough.
We Canadians are a little luckier with BNN. They try to achieve a little more balance although it's sometimes hard to find guests that have a realistic point of view. The guest pool is swimming with shills, but Berman is excellent, Sprott and Shiller guests are good, and once in a while we'll be treated to Rosenberg.
LOL you are right just look at how Canadian equity markets have underperformed the rest of the world - they must be objective
CNBC should be rooting for financial turmoil. Look how viewership rose during the '08 crisis
If we're reading charts does this mean we are 3 years from said turmoil?? Aye Gawd, I don't think I can palate the thought..
CNBC anchoerettes are more over the hill than this fakeass 'rally' they're humping 24/7.
Television is incredibly odd to me.
When you can see immediately whether or not people are lying, the entire shadow show takes on a ghoulish and surreal air. People often mistake it for lizards or psychosis; it's just the effect of not realizing you're watching actors and being told it's real. Take the test. If you get 18+, you're on the right track. If you get lower than 10, for your own safety, don't watch TV.
Oh, and this isn't a conspiracy theory, it's a well known fact:
In a bizarre television and spatial anomaly on CNN this morning, the blanket coverage of two true-crime stories led two news anchors to conduct an odd "satellite" interview from the very same parking lot, background traffic and all.-[source May 7th 2013]
Admittedly, they've gotten a lot better at it than the Gulf war days were the faking was amateurish (remember homeboy, he's the talent there). With green screen technology (e.g. Stargate Studios) the sky's the limit.
People weren't lying to you in the 1970's, although they didn't win.
If you need a quick and dirty test to see if you're really bonkers, they exist. No need for lizards, just take the test to reassure yourself. Then permanently switch off your TV, and do take note the internet is full of the same traps.
Dubbed the “Policy Violation Checker” in the patent filed May 2, the system would identify “problematic phrases” in documents like emails or other online documents run on Google’s Drive like presentations. But it’s not limited here. Google envisions the program being run through mobile devices, televisions, set-top boxes or other processors. [source]
p.s.
There's currently two versions of this thread? One has 300 odd comments, this one has only 60 odd. How very very strange.
[edit ~ regarding the word "fake" over that CNN broadcast from the Gulf war. I'm not claiming it wasn't made in country, but the point is the attitude of the anchorman. He clearly does not believe in anything he's saying, and he clearly is self-aware of it and contemptuous of his intended audience (it's also rather sad to see his own internalization of self-loathing expressing itself as arrogance and snapping at "minions" to enforce the hierarchy, but there we go). It's got to the point where even your own (admittedly left wing) fictional series dissect your own "real" media. [see here]. Tip: All the media does it]
13, paid too much attention to the wrong part of the face. very revealing test to discover one's cogdis, indeed.
figured out Charlie Chaplin test right away, but that's cuz i was diggin the music. can't wait to play that track WICKED LOUD with a massive subwoofer.
the ears must have it :)
one back at ya, (and a clue to the rest who wants to score high on the test)
I only watch to see what kind of slop they're trying to feed J6P. Months (or weeks) ago it was, "QE is NOT the reason for this rally." And today ol' BQ comes out with "How to pick stocks in a QE4eva world." WTF?
Meh, who gives a rat's ass about CNBC. FARTiromo is a big turn off anyway.
They love you in Singapore.
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/zerohedge.com
When I first saw a Cramer fiasco on CNBC, I asked myself, "Who is this clown?", but that was probably 15 years ago and I stopped watching CNBC probably 6 years ago or more now, but it was great to see Maria jump the shark everyday at market close.
Now and then I see a clip on the web, but for the most part, I never watch it anymore. A CEO that I know spent 75 grand to make a guest appearance on CNBC, probably around 1994.
The CNBC of old was a better channel with the likes of Gerry Spence and other programs that were less financially oriented in content. There used to be more there. I suppose they could go back to the old programming model and might gain more viewers.
Easy to ignore CNBC nowadays.
Come on Maria, flash em just one time. That'll get your ratings up.
It's either that or paying the next winners on Dancing With The Stars to show up and tell everyone they never would have won if they didn't buy stocks.
We forget the fact that CNBC now has direct compeition from FOX Business... I'd watch it if CrapWarner carried it.
Muppets 4 life
Fox is evil, more evil I think than the other MSM dreck, you want the BS Bankster mouthpiece...fox is it.
Though, Lori Rothman is truly hot.
Do we think that maybe ZH has something to do with the CNBS viewership cliff dive?
I found ZH because of CNBS. It was early 2009, Obama had been recently appointed ruler, people were desperate for financial information after the crash. The economy was not getting better. Obama was not a savior, never will be. I realized CNBC was lying. I never looked back. F*ck you Comcast, CNBC and your endless propaganda.
Fuck me, I've forgotten exactly how I first found ZH. We should have a thread for that sometime....although it is a bit campfire-y.
Dennis Kneale, when he was still on FNN CNBC, clued me in on Zerohedge. THANKS DENNIS!!!
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/dennis-lets-zero-hedge-have-it
I seriously can't handle watching five minutes of the propaganda anymore. I'll turn it on to see the ticker but will mute it every time invariably because of the bs show that it has become.
There should be an app for this...'CNBC CrateRatings'
TV is for suckers and zombies who watch instead of act. TV is the great pacifier...for babies of all ages.
Bloomberg is just as bad. They have to dye the JAP hair blonde, but we still know she is a Jew from the ridiculously dark eyebrows.
Video:
http://homment.com/syria-internet
I used to watch CNBC in the morning but now I enjoy reruns of Married With Children on TBS. Even they understand banking better than the hosts do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-5q5pZuSvY
In 2009 (check the charts), Amanda Drury wore a shiny blue ruffled top that received criticism for its plunging neckline, and lent itself to visible proof of the ongoing fabric shortage. CNBC responded by replacing her plunging necklines with plunging ratings...