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Israel Informs US That Russia Plans To Sell Weapons To Syria

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We almost got an entire 24 hour period that did not have news about imminent war rumblings out of Syria. Almost. Late last night WSJ reported about the civil war torn country (in which the rebels may or may not be using chemical weapons, but are backed by both Al Qaeda and the US government) again, this time on a leak by Israel having warned the US that Russians are "imminently" going to sell advanced ground-to-air missile systems to Syria "that would significantly boost the regime's ability to stave off intervention in its civil war." Supposedly this means that Israel would be unable to continue its unimpeded military incursions of Syrian sovereign airspace and blow stuff up at whim just because it feels like it, and for whatever pretext the Israeli defense forces come up with.

Some details on what Syria is said to receive from Moscow via the WSJ:

Israel has warned the U.S. that a Russian deal is imminent to sell advanced ground-to-air missile systems to Syria, weapons that would significantly boost the regime's ability to stave off intervention in its civil war.

 

The package includes six launchers and 144 operational missiles, each with a range of 125 miles, according to the information the Israelis provided. The first shipment could come over the next three months, according to the Israelis' information, and be concluded by the end of the year. Russia is also expected to send two instruction teams to train Syria's military in operating the missile system, the Israelis say.

Naturally, there were no official statements on the matter, meaning interpretation of events is up to "objective",  "unconflicted" media spin, the same way the US government is convinced it was the Assad regime using chemical weapons despite the UN's report claiming just the opposite.

U.S. officials said on Wednesday that they are analyzing the information Israel provided, but wouldn't comment on whether they believed the sale of S-300 missile batteries was near.

 

Russian officials didn't immediately return requests to comment. The Russian Embassy in Washington has said its policy is not to comment on arms sales or transfers between Russia and other countries.

 

The government of President Bashar al-Assad has been seeking to purchase S-300 missile batteries—which can intercept both manned aircraft and guided missiles—from Moscow going back to the George W. Bush administration, U.S. officials said. Western nations have lobbied President Vladimir Putin's government not to go ahead with the sale. If Syria were to acquire and deploy the systems, it would make any international intervention in Syria far more complicated, according to U.S. and Middle East-based officials.

 

According to the information the Israelis provided in recent days, Syria has been making payments on a 2010 agreement with Moscow to buy four batteries for $900 million. They cite financial transactions from the Syrian government, including one made this year through Russia's foreign-development bank, known as the VEB.

Since Russia has a naval base in Syria, it probaly should not come as a huge surprise that Putin is on friendly terms with the current regime. After all it is not just Israel and the US that have strategic visions regarding a country that many see as the gateway to the Israel-Iran conflict.

In 2009, the Russians started upgrading Syria's outdated analog SA-3 surface-to-air missile systems, turning them into the SA-26 Pechora-2M system, which is mobile and digital, equipped with missiles with an operational range of 17 miles, according to the assessment.

 

The U.S. is particularly worried about another modernized system Moscow provides—the SA-5. With an operational range of 175 miles, SA-5 missiles could take out U.S. planes flying from Cyprus, a key North Atlantic Treaty Organization base that was used during Libya operations and would likely be vital in any Syrian operation.

US planes flying out of Cyprus carrying Cypriot gold perhaps?

As for the whole farce surrounding Syria, ok, ok - we get it. By now even the cheap seat have grasped that Israel wants to not only start a war with Syria, but to preferably have the US fight it, but not before alienating public opinion against Russia and soon China.

 

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Thu, 05/09/2013 - 09:51 | 3544292 SamAdams
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And Israel's word is "golden"....

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 09:53 | 3544308 TeamDepends
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You can take it to the bank....

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 09:58 | 3544331 Spider
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Does this smell like the beginnings of a wider conflict?  Can anybody say "Franz Ferdinand"...

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:04 | 3544361 SamAdams
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Anyone seen Assad since his Iranian bodyguard shot him in the head?  That was the story, haven't seen him since.  Anyone else?

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:10 | 3544390 Pinto Currency
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Syria informs Russia that US intends to sell weapons to Israel.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:15 | 3544409 Sofa King Confused
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Russia should give Syria 3 or 4 nukes so if Israel bombs them again they can completely destroy Israel. FOREVER!

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:39 | 3544452 The Juggernaut
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USA should respond with, "Go fuck yourselves.  We'll be energy independant soon so... figure it out."

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:40 | 3544529 Chupacabra-322
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The Zionists are playing the American public like a violin. Zionism (Rothschild-ism): is the fake ‘history’ created by the Rothschilds to lay false claim to the land we call Israel or Palestine.

The ‘chosen people’ they claim, Bible prophesy, interpreted by many of the ‘Churches’ in this country, that God established the current regime in Palestine for European Rothschild Khazars (pseudo-Ashkenazi Jews), and any criticism of Israel, even if deserved, is an affront to God Almighty Himself.

Yup, and most Americans swallow that one hook, line, and sinker.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:49 | 3544576 Triggernometry
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*Yawn*

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 11:13 | 3544661 Chupacabra-322
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The Zionist Elephant In The Room

The political creed of Zionism has big ears and a long trunk and I think it’s time that was pointed out. It also stampedes through our lives at every level and that needs to be said, too.

It has created a pincer-movement on the human mind by hijacking staggering amounts of political, corporate, banking and media power on one side and by using the fear of being called ‘anti-Semitic’ if you dare to state the bloody obvious.

 They have been able to do this by equating in public perception that Zionism = Jewish people. It does not. Zionism is a political creed introduced by the House of Rothschild to advance the goals of the Illuminati families that are largely controlled by the Rothschilds.

 When people think of Zionism they think of Jewish people. When they think of Israel they think of Jewish people. That’s understandable given the propaganda, but it is seriously misleading and those instant connections need to be broken if we are going to understand what’s going on here.

Zionism means Rothschild just as Israel means Rothschild. When we see the extraordinary number of Zionists in key positions around the world we are looking not at ‘manipulating Jews’, but manipulating Zionists representing the interests and demands of the Rothschilds.

 

Significant numbers of Jewish people are not Zionists and oppose that appalling creed while many Zionists are not Jewish. These include the Christian Zionists and Obama’s vice-president, Joe Biden, who told Israeli television ‘I’m a Zionist’.  If, as Biden rightly says, you don’t have to be a Jew to be a Zionist, how can it be a racial rather than a political movement? It can’t. It’s just made to appear like that to manipulate public perception because opposing Zionism then becomes opposing Jewish people as a whole and the ‘you’re a racist’ card can be played over and over.

 Far from protecting and advancing the interests of the mass of Jewish people it has often been devastating for them and caused millions to be labelled unfairly by the actions of the Zionist elite. On the Jews Against Zionism website one feature highlights how Rothschild Zionism targeted Jews who had lived for generations in Palestine side-by-side with Arabs in peace and harmony:


‘The religious Jews who by virtue of their faith, clearly contradicted Zionist nationalism, and who had lived peacefully with their Arab neighbors for generations, became unwillingly identified with the Zionist cause and their struggle with the Arabs.

 They requested the United Nations that Jerusalem be designated as a defacto international city. They appealed to the diplomatic corps assigned to Jerusalem — but to no avail. They were hence confronted with the choice of either becoming a part of the Zionist State, which diametrically opposed the interests of Jews as a religion, or abandoning the land of which their forefathers were the first Jewish settlers.

 Let’s get this straight. Zionism doesn’t give a damn about Jewish people. To the Rothschilds and their Zionist gofers and thugs the Jewish people as a whole are merely cattle to be used and abused as necessary – just like the rest of the human population.

The networks of the House of Rothschild were behind Hitler and the rise of the Nazi Party in the Rothschild heartland of Germany where they had changed their name from Bauer in 18th century Frankfurt and launched the dynasty that was to control global finance.

 After the war the Rothschilds used public sympathy for Jewish people targeted by the Nazis to press for a homeland in Palestine. This was the alleged reason for the founding of Zionism, but that is only part of it.

 The campaign to impose a Rothschild fiefdom in Palestine goes back at least to the earlier part of the 19th century and probably long before. It was given a massive boost with the Balfour Declaration in 1917 when the British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour declared in a letter his government’s support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine.

This letter was sent by Balfour, an inner-circle member of an elite secret society called the Round Table, to Baron (Walter) Rothschild who funded the Round Table.

 Today, Rothschild Illuminati fronts like the Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg Group, Royal Institute of International Affairs, and others, still answer to the Round Table which string-pulls and coordinates from the shadows. This is why Zionists in government are invariably connected with these Rothschild-controlled organisations.

The Rothschilds funded the early settlers from Europe to relocate in post-war Palestine and they also funded and armed the terrorist groups, like Irgun, which bombed and terrorised Israel into existence in 1948, a campaign which forced 800,000 Palestinians to leave the land of their birth.

Israel is simply the State of Rothschild and how appropriate that they paid for the construction of the Israeli parliament building, the Knesset, and the Israel Supreme Court. The name Rothschild means Red-shield and it originates with the red shield ‘Star of David’ symbol (not a Jewish symbol before the Rothschilds) which they displayed on their house in Frankfurt .

 

 

 

 

 

Political Zionism:

The social movement which creates and sustains the physical nation of Isreal.  The driver for World Government through Isreal in the tradition of the Heretical Frankist Jews. 

This definition is embodied by The Rothschild family.

Not all Jews are political Zionists.  Not all political Zionists are Jews.

The political Zionist movement feeds off Jews in the sameway the the Nazi movement feed off the Germans.

Political Zionism is the greatest enemy of the Jews.

 

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 12:07 | 3544850 BraveSirRobin
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Wow - Lulu land.

Isreal was greated in 1948 to ease the Jewish refuge problem in post WWII Europe. There were millions of homeless, penniless Jews wandering around Europe. There were also other mass refugee problems, particularly ethnic Germans, who were forced out of Prussia when it was given to Poland, Yugoslavia, etc, etc. Millions of people were on the verge of starvation. The industrial and agricultural infrastructure was ruined and there was a severe drought.

The Jews, as you can imagine, did not feel particularly welcome in Europe, they had just been rounded up and slaughtered en-mass, and latched onto the Zionist movement as a means to leave Europe and create a safe haven. To help reduce the refugee problem in Europe, the UK, USA, and France also saw this as an opportunity, and facilitated the movement of Jews to Israel.

There was no conspiracy here, just an effort to alleviate an immediate problem. 

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 12:15 | 3544884 Herd Redirectio...
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Right... The Rothschild fingerprints aren't all over Israel.  Got it.

Is this a variant of "Don't believe your lying eyes" or "You'll have to trust me on this one, no, really.  And stop asking questions"

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 13:01 | 3545065 General Decline
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So Syria wants the ability to defend it's air space??  Terrorists!!  Next thing they'll tell us Assad likes to kick puppies.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 14:00 | 3545283 Anusocracy
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Hasn't Russia agreed to sell advanced defensive systems to just about every enemy of the US?

When will they deliver them? After they have been converted to friends of the US?

I trust Russia about as far as I could throw one of Hillary's cankles.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 13:44 | 3545229 galis
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as max keiser said to peope like you - the idiots who keep talking about the rotchild and ignore the bankers who robe in broad day light

draghi abe carney damon  paulson geithner are all hard core zionists.

the 0 precent intrest in us  and low in europe and england sent billions , tens of billions to the banksters from reg. people.

who need a c theori here?

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 12:21 | 3544908 Rustysilver
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The mass ethnic Germans were forced to give up land that wasn't their. The Germans settled in Poland under Nazis and were thrown out.

Cry me a river.  A lot of borders were shifted as well as a lot of people.

Quite a few Jews move to Palestine before and during WW 1 from Poland were there was big Jewish population.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 13:09 | 3545104 Sandmann
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Jews lived in Mandate Palestine - there were Immigration Controls. The US worked to bust the controls and the British worked to maintain them by blocking ships leaving Italian ports. the USSR recognised Israel first, Czechs armed them. The US did what it could to undermine Britain in Palestine. Go read up on Ben Hecht

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 15:17 | 3545631 Kirk2NCC1701
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"The name Rothschild means Red-shield and it originates with the red shield ‘Star of David’ symbol (not a Jewish symbol before the Rothschilds) which they displayed on their house in Frankfurt ."

That's not correct.  There was no 'Star of David' on the shield.  The red shield had a graphic picture of the Roman Eagle.  Which some also interpret as a Phoenix (Egyptian symbolism of rebirth from ashes). 

Street numbers were not common back then, and houses had "names".  Tradesmen and craftsmens hung their sign/shingle at the door, like we do today.  Their house name & address was "zum Rothschild", Judengasse (at Redshield, Jew Alley), Frankfurt am Main.  As opposed to the 'other' Frankfurt:  Frankfurt a.d.O. (Frankfurt an der Oder). 

True, the Bauer ('Farmer') family changed their name to the that of their sign -- as a kind of re-branding and re-positioning, which helped them make better inroads with Nobility and Royalty.  This is like courting 'Key Corporate Accounts' today.  You have to admit that Redshield has a cooler ring to it than Farmer.  Just like 'Blackrock' sound cooler than 'Schwartzstein' (German equivalent).

Hope everyone learned something today.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 17:15 | 3546134 thisandthat
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Also, it's nothing they invented: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_David#History

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 11:14 | 3544666 Randall Cabot
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"World Zionist leaders initiated a program to change America and its religious orientation. One of the tools used to accomplish this goal was an obscure and malleable Civil War veteran named Cyrus I. Schofield. A much larger tool was a venerable, world respected European book publisher--The Oxford University Press.

 The scheme was to alter the Christian view of Zionism by creating and promoting a pro-Zionist subculture within Christianity. Scofield's role was to re-write the King James Version of the Bible by inserting Zionist-friendly notes in the margins, between verses and chapters, and on the bottoms of the pages. The Oxford University Press used Scofield, a pastor by then, as the Editor, probably because it needed such as man for a front. The revised bible was called the Scofield Reference Bible, and with limitless advertising and promotion, it became a best-selling "bible" in America and has remained so for 90 years."

 

 

 

http://rense.com/general60/zcre.htm

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 12:46 | 3545003 BraveSirRobin
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Wha-a-a-a-t?

The Scofield Reference Bible is a study bible. Its innovation is that it added interpretive notes to the margins, and not in separate sections. It did not alter the text of the Bible. The notes promoted a dispensationalist view of the Bible, that is, the idea that the entire period between the creation and the final judgment can be broken into seven distinct phases or eras that came serve as a framework to better understand the Bible. It laid out a timeline for the entirety of human history and helped popularize the 17th century Usher estimate for the date of the creation (4004 BC). It also gave a detailed timeline for the “end times.” The Scofield Reference Bible became popular during WWI and WWII because of its time lines and interpretations of the Apocalypse. Many dispensationalists thought Jesus was supposed to return and rule in 2004 AD. It is NOT widely circulated today. Very, very few Christians still hold onto the timelines put forward by it.

The most popular study Bibles today (by unit sales) are:

1.         Every Day With Jesus Bible (CSB)

2.         Chronological Study Bible (NKJ)

3.         Study Bible (ESV)

4.         Life Application Study Bible Revised (NIV)

5.         God Sightings the One Year Bible (NLT)

6.         Daily Bible in Chronological Order 365 Daily Readings (NIV)

7.         God Sightings the One Year Bible (NIV)

8.         Study Bible (KJV)

9.         Life Application Study Bible (NLT)

10.     Personal Size Giant Print Reference Bible (KJV)

Oh, and sales of study Bibles are fare less than regular Bibles.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 13:38 | 3545195 IdiocracyIsAlre...
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Obviously you have very little interaction with dispensationalists.  The fact that the Scofield Reference Bible itself is does not continue to be top seller is meaningless.  It sprung many, many offspring not the least of which include Hal Lindsay "The Late Great Planet Earth", LaHaye and all of the "Left Behind" crapola and pretty much everything that Mossad financed fatass douche bag Hagee ever wrote.  That the initial timeline has now expired is irrelevant - the peddlers of this nonsense just make new shit up as necessary.  And the fools still lap it up.  Trust me, I have dispensationalists in my extended family which feels me with no end of embarassment.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 14:27 | 3545413 Randall Cabot
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"It did not alter the text of the Bible."

It helps to read the article that you're commenting on:

Scofield, whose work is largely believed to be the product of Darby and others, wisely chose not to change the text of the King James Edition. Instead, he added hundreds of easy-to-read footnotes at the bottom of about half of the pages, and as the Old English grammar of the KJE becomes increasingly difficult for progressive generations of readers, students become increasingly dependent on the modern language footnotes.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 12:39 | 3544974 caconhma
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America is a nation of imbeciles ruled by the Zionist Banking Mafia. Zionists completely control the White House, the Congress, and the Supreme Court.

The last Sunday, my neighbor, a police lieutenant, told me a story how Chechens were bombing Boston, robbing 7/11 stores, and throwing jihad explosive belts trying to kill lightly-armed police officers. I mentioned Lee Harvey Oswald and he agreed that the bastard has killed JFK.

I was impressed. Otherwise, my neighbor looks normal…

 

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 13:39 | 3545204 Herd Redirectio...
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Control of the media = controlling public opinion, and even the level of public education

Control of the police/military = controlling the use of (deadly) force/preventing the status quo (fiat/fractional reserve banking/usury) from being ended through force.

Control of the courts = Rules are for everbody else.  Courts in your pocket mean they can't be used to end econo-political status quo.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 13:19 | 3545139 IdiocracyIsAlre...
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You are not kidding.  Don't even get me started on the bible "prophecy" BS which has been peddled since the early 70's and undoubtably to a large degree Mossad financed.  Not coincidently about the same time megachurches started appearing - paid for by the same.  Brilliant scheme when you think of it -  concentrations of high authoritarian followers to manipulate into doing your bidding.  Don't know how those who see the whole thing for what it is can do anything to awaken said followers on how they are being used, sadly.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 14:04 | 3545300 The Heart
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Isreal=Created, owned, and fully operated as the TOOL to start the third world war, and nothing less. The rottenchids will wipe isreal off the map after they start the final solution population reduction world war III. No nation on the planet is more stupid than isreal is in allowing themselves to be set up, and used like little piglets for the slaughter. Stupid is, as stupid does.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=-WfqdcnjvlA&feature=endscreen

http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm

 

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 11:15 | 3544613 The Phu
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For those that think that the Cold War ended on 25/26 December 1991, please think again.  The Cold War is known by many as a "proxy war" in which the US and USSR used other parties as proxies for a bigger war (I'm thinking of Cuba - Cuban missile crisis (and therefore Turkey), Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iran-Iraq war, Egypt, Korea, et al).

 

I posit that in today's conflict in the Middle East, the US is using Israel as it's proxy; Russia is using Iran and Syria as their proxies.  Likewise, on the other side of the globe, I suspect Putin has zero real interest in North/South Korea, but I bet he's more than happy to have NK think that Russia will support them so that NK will drag SK/USA into another war.  I must conlculde that we (Americans) are refusing to acknowledge that our former adversary doesn't agree that the Cold War is over.  Further, the Russkies have an axe to grind as they blame us for the collapse of their government and economy and their seat at the head of the international table next to us. 

 

Look at the map.  US/Israel and Syria/Russia/Iran.  If fighting starts in the Middle East (doesn't matter who starts it), assume that Iran will get involved.  Iran has Russia's backing, and China is the largest buyer of Iranian oil (throw India in there too).  China and Japan has some issues over a couple of shithole islands and then Kimmy in Korea Norte thinks he has China's backing in a war with SK.  Of course, I need not mention the defense pacts the US has with both SK and Japan.  Bombs start dropping in Damascas and I bet you Pyongyang and/or Senkaku conflicts might start heating up.  Russia is playing chess and the US is playing checkers.  One shot fired, one Franz Ferdinand moment, and the WWIII scenario falls into contolled chaos. 

 

Last but not least, check out current carrier locations: http://www.gonavy.jp/CVLocation.html

 

The US has two boats deployed, one in the Pacific and the other in the North Arabian Sea.  If a Norfolk-based carrier were to leave VA today, it's still about a week out from the Med.  I fear that all we have in theater are boomers, and B-2's in Whiteman AFB - but even those are likely forward deployed to Diego Garcia and/or Guam.  Obummer's in a bind, he's been caught flat footed, and Vlad knows it.  He'll send those weapons and we'll be complaining about Red Lines.  We're not dealing from a position of strength and I cannot think of a time that happened in the Cold War (except maybe U-2's getting shot down over Soviet airspace or early in the Korean war).  Vlad's got us in check.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 11:29 | 3544721 Herd Redirectio...
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What you need to understand is there are greater puppet masters at work here.  They are not American or Russian, or even nationalistic!  They are globalists, they are power-hungry, war-mongers, and usurers. 

Russia and USA are the proxies.  Divide and conquer.  We have been divided already...

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 11:46 | 3544763 The Phu
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I appreciate your perspective but politely disagree.  I don't think that Russia would look at a New World Order, a glabal central governing and economic body, even Goldman Sachs, any more differently than if they had a "Made in the USA" sticker on the bottom.  Russia has very isolationist tendencies (granted, I can think of several situations where they've thrown those aside - Peter the Great, Napolean, Crimean, Russo-Japanese War, Afghanistan, etc.).  Putin, or any Russian leader, would likely view a NWO-type structure just as threatening as an American nuke.

 

I could get behind your theory that Russia may feel that American agression is due to America being a pawn of this "globalist agenda."  That said, I don't see Russia ceding control to any external force and there's a long history of precedent there - Mongols, Swedes, Hitler, Napolean.  Russia has always refused to be conquered from the outside and I feel that this cannot be ignored.  

 

Americans may be willing to sell out to the NWO, if it exists, but I don't see the Russians doing it.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 11:53 | 3544782 Herd Redirectio...
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Yes, you are such an expert on Russian history, please tell us about how Russian history was written by German historians, and how the Romanovs' power base was from where again?  Siberia?  The Volga region?  Or was it closer to Germany and Poland, hence why St Petersburg was founded (an escape route back to the power base)

If history has shown anything its that you have to conquer Russia from the inside.  So I postulate, do you think Putin is running the show on his own over there?

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 12:06 | 3544845 The Phu
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The Russkies claim they built Petrograd (St. Pete) for two purposes - to provide a FOB and fortifications against Swedish incursions (modern day Peter and Paul Fortress), and to build the port facility and naval base on the Gulf of Finland.  I contend that it was also built to stroke Peter's ego, but that's a different story for a different day. 

 

If I were to agree with your position that St. Pete was built as an escape route back to it's German and Polish power centers, which isn't a position I support, I would say that I could buy that they built St. Pete as a window/portal to the West.  Peter knew Russia was centuries behind the rest of Europe because of it's seclusion.  He wanted Russia to participate in the European economy, he wanted a navy that could protect His interests around the globe.  I don't think it was so he could import German brides for his future Romanov sons and grandsons.  That's just my opinion.

 

I don't believe Putin is ruling Russian with an autocratic fist.  I definitely believe his buddies have immense influence.  To say that Putin is controlled/influenced by the Oligarchs fails to recognize that Buffett, Gates, Immelt, Eric Schmidt, Dimon, etc., have plenty influence on Obama.  But, I do think that Putin has total control over his military, intelligence branches, media, and economy than any American President ever has.  So yes, in very simple terms, I do think Putin is running the show. 

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 12:19 | 3544895 Herd Redirectio...
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Who brought Putin to power?  How has he retained power?  Just from his KGB links?

What about that little Napoleon, Dmitri Medvedev, you don't think that kind of guy is the exact kind of sell-out you would expect in a compromised Russian government?  He is about 1.54m with shoes on, that guy would do anything for anyone who promised him power and wealth.

And what about Khodorkovsky's fortune, doesn't that indicate quite strongly who the predominant Oligarch in Russia really is (hint, he's not Russian or named Khodorkovsky, but Yuko's shares did pass to him...)

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 12:30 | 3544943 Rustysilver
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Herd Red...

Medvedev has Jewish links.

My grandfather was in Czarist army (which of course makes me an instant expert on all things Russian).

I don't think that Putin has a complete grasp of Russia. Yes he is knocking of some oligarch that oppose him. He won by 68% which by Russian standards is like winning by 3% in US.

The Russian general have not forgotten how much prestige they have lost.  They want the all Soviet state reconstituted.

 

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 15:13 | 3545615 Jekyll_n_Hyde_Island
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Awesome.  ZH has become a meeting place for conspiracy theorists and Jew haters.

 

  Fuck.  Fuck this comment thread.  It's the biggest compilation of pseudo-intellectual tinfoil hat wearing nincompoops I've ever come across. 

 

 

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 11:54 | 3544794 Sofa King Confused
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Phu,

After looking at the link provided in your post, it looks like it takes 10-12 years from starting to build a carrier until it is commisioned by the navy.  I would say that if it takes that long this is the perfect time for WWIII from the Chinese and Russian perspective.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:40 | 3544530 Sandmann
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Israel buys weapons from the USA using Bernanke QE Dollars

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 11:16 | 3544673 Jack Napier
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Captain Obvious informs Israel that it's just business, with pleasure being an unindicted co-conspirator.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:13 | 3544396 Herd Redirectio...
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http://news.yahoo.com/video/syrias-assad-may-day-public-173156052-cbs.html

Video is  not available in my location, so I haven't actually seen him.

But really, last time I looked at a map Syria was a LOT closer to Israel than USA.  So why would the US be concerned?

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:22 | 3544431 TeamDepends
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He was rushed to Beth Israel Hospital in Boston where the same doctors who administered life-threatening procedures on Tamerlan are fitting him with a prosthetic head.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:29 | 3544475 Dr. Engali
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+1 for the twisted humor.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:42 | 3544540 Debugas
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does that prostetic head come with a pre-loaded set of crappy ideas ?

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:51 | 3544584 TeamDepends
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If by "crappy" you mean "Krugman-like", yes.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:31 | 3544491 JOYFUL
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Anyone seen Assad since his Iranian bodyguard shot him in the head?

err... that was Allende... and his bodyguard was Cuban ....

modern leaders don't do foreign manhandlers any more... it's all subcontracted to Ukranian babes. But the uniforms may be Cuban.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 12:13 | 3544868 Essential Intel...
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The presence of the S-300 in Damascus might force NATO to launch a ground attack on the eastern outskirts of Damascus from the northern Jordanian border, along which it has been arrayed since the beginning of the present war in Syria. This move may be complemented by means of an Israeli concentration of forces on the Golan heights, in order to force most Syrian forces to remain assigned to the western outskirts of Damascus, or else the Israeli forces could move on Damascus, thus complementing the NATO-Jordanian prong towards a pincer movement on Damascus. Details here: http://essential-intelligence-network.blogspot.com/2013/05/syria-conventional-war.html

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 13:06 | 3545091 Sandmann
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The SS26 rockets should test Israel's US-funded Iron Dome then

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 13:35 | 3545179 mick_richfield
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Iron Dome, not.

Tin Hat, maybe.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 11:53 | 3544777 BraveSirRobin
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Any new systems ordered will have no effect on the current civil war or intent, if any, of US, NATO, or Israeli intervention. First, it will take time for Russia to move the systems to Syria, even if they have already been manufactured. Second, the equipment will need to set up, and crews training to proficiency if they have any hope of becoming effective. Third, the US and Israel have countermeasures to make these systems ineffective in any event. I'm surprised the Syrians are wasting their money on this. It's probably a "Do Something!" response to the recent Israeli air attacks. It will not be an effective "Do Something!" at all.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 12:49 | 3545023 Winston Churchill
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They never announce a proposal for anything in realpolitik until

its shipped, and already  fully operational.

This is just zionist shit stirring.Note I said zionist,not Israeli

or jewish.Everything is a diversion anyhow,the real target is S Lebanon's water,

and the zionists cannot annexe that prize without knocking out Hezbollah by removing

the Syrian and Irananian backing .If they can get the US to do it for them,they will.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 13:42 | 3545215 Herd Redirectio...
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Oh, they need water?  Why not just take the Golan Heights?

*checks calendar*

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 14:36 | 3545454 DosZap
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This is just zionist shit stirring.Note I said zionist,not Israeli

Exactly what does that term mean to you?.A definition pls.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 21:46 | 3546830 BraveSirRobin
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People announce things that never will happen all the time. Remember, governments are largely incompetent. That's why I laugh at those conspiracy believers. Government, corporations, rich people, secret societies, are all just too incompentent to do much of anything of any complexity with any real intent. And usually, people are just reacting to events around them and not putting much real thought or rigor into their actions.

Isreal bombs Syria. . . ., there's no grand plan. Someone just saw a target of opportunity and took it. It only gets dangerous when people start to delude themselves they are actually in control. You can control a moment, you can control a small plot of ground if you have enough guns, but no one controls destiney.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 13:11 | 3545108 Sandmann
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Syrian crews ARE trained on the S300. there are 50,000 Russians in Syria. The US does not have counter-measures as NATO exercises proved.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 15:31 | 3545735 Kirk2NCC1701
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The IDF will be 'loaned' (gifted) a bunch of JSF (Joint Strike Fighter) planes, right?

Too bad the eye-tracking HUDs inside the helmet visors won't be ready by then.   Would have been interesting to... 'see'.  Or maybe they will, if they keep pulling in the schedule?

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 22:10 | 3546894 BraveSirRobin
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Israel is slated to recieve the JSF in 2014.

There are not 50,000 Russians in Syria. And there are effecive countermeasures to the Russian system. A previously mention NATO exercise in 2012 included aircraft from France, Norway, Denmark, Germany, and Turkey. The US was not involved. The ECM systems involved were not top line.

The US and Isreal has had access to the SA-300 for a very long time. In my opinion there are highly effective countermeasures against this system. Russian gear, by and large, sucks. Their history of combat performance proves it.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 09:54 | 3544313 chumbawamba
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More like "nigger".

I am Chumbawamba.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:02 | 3544352 Cognitive Dissonance
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Too funny.

These threads are just like catnip to you Chumba. Have you ever considered going to CA (Catnip Anonymous)? :)

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:07 | 3544380 SamAdams
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the politically correct term is "chattle"...  Oy-vey!

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:02 | 3544349 azzhatter
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Just curious but where does Syria get that kind of cash? Do they have a Syrian Bernanke just print it up?

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:03 | 3544357 otto skorzeny
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Future revenue streams from NG fields .

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 11:17 | 3544679 Jack Napier
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Money doesn't grow on trees. Trees can't keep up.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:04 | 3544366 Doode
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I think the whole Syrian conflict was started to get land concessions from the new Syrian government to solve the Palestinian conflict once and for all - Israel cannot physically give the current Palestinian terrotires to a new country - it would split Israel into 2 countries that would be impossible to defend. And certainly no strong government in the region would ever make land concessions voluntarily - hence the war in Syria. I think that is its true purpose. A bonus is to take out Iran's ally and make a strike on Iran easier to achieve.

 

Thoughts?

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:25 | 3544454 Mad Max
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I think that's unlikely.  I really don't think Israel's current leadership cares a bit about the Palestinians as people, only as pawns for political games.

Israel probably DOES want Syrian land - for water and fossil fuel extraction.

(I didn't neg you)

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:33 | 3544501 tango
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zh may love Assad but the reality is that Syria has been a family fiefdom for decades run by a tiny religious Shia minority and a huge secret police.  When the "Arab Spring" came along, the other 90% thought it was their turn.  Nice and simple - no CIA, Mossad, Illuminati, UFOs or conspiracies. Lest we forget, no one wanted Assad out - Israel, Turkey, Iran, Egypt, Jordan, the US.  At least he maintained stability even if was by abhorant means. 

A Palestinian state was possible decades ago but Egypt and Jordan annexed their land and absolutely refused to consider a separate state, placing them in "refugee" camps and forbidding political activity.  Jordan went so far as to massacre tens of thousands. 

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 11:16 | 3544674 Herd Redirectio...
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A Palestinian state also existed decades ago...  I believe it was called... Palestine?

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 11:20 | 3544691 Jack Napier
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tango, none of those nations you've listed are sovereign enough for their desires to matter. Regime change in MENA is the game plan. Even nations like Iran and DPRK are giving us every reason in the world to advance the agenda, eager scapegoats that they are.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 11:43 | 3544755 Jack Burton
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Herd Redirectio..., Don't tell the truth! Are you anti-semitic? Everyone knows the Palestinian people didn't even exist. I heard a US congressman say so once, and you know he would never lie?

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 12:03 | 3544829 Herd Redirectio...
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Herd Redirection Committee.  I'm just a member.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:37 | 3544517 Herd Redirectio...
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I am sure they think only in terms of profit and control, so... Is this new territory under their control and they profit from its operation?  And its, well, rented to the Palestines?  I could see that being the goal... But beating Syria up, and then telling them, "Now you have to take them", don't think thats going to 'solve' much at all!

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 11:33 | 3544731 MrBoompi
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My thoughts are the US (the Western Powers) has wanted to overthrow Iran and Syria for decades, and Israel is an ally in this effort.  We will continue to impose our will in the Middle East and everywhere else that has oil and natural gas, until oil and natural gas are no longer considered vital to our national security, or corporate profits.  If Saudi Arabia ever started selling their oil for Euros, Yuan, or gold, they would be on "the list" too.  I'm not saying the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is not important, only that energy is what drives the overall policies over there.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 12:33 | 3544956 Rustysilver
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Doode,

A lot of Palestinians are in Jordan. That government is not stable: they get a lot of help for US. To me at least, I would make more sense to have Palestinians move to Jordan.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 13:04 | 3545083 Sandmann
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Jordan might want The West Bank back to house all these Palestinians

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:13 | 3544391 freewolf7
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The War Ma$hine is fully operational.

Divide. Conquer.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:21 | 3544436 freewolf7
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"Israel Informs US That Russia Plans To Sell Weapons To Syria"

Russia Informs Syria That US Plans To Sell Weapons To Israel

See?
The parts are inter-changeable!
You can play, too!

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 11:01 | 3544626 smlbizman
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freewolf..its obvious that you have not been paying attention...the difference is...we are the good guys, right?...

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 11:20 | 3544687 freewolf7
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We are all pieces in The Game.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:28 | 3544473 Canadian Dirtlump
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I have no doubt Russia is sending arms to Syria and God bless them for it. We've seen swiss arms shipped through quatar for the rebels, US arms shipped through  libya (now croatia). So fair is fair. A stray MOAB over incerlik airbase in turkey, the jordan syria border, the syra israeli border, doha quatar, riyadh saudi arabia would also help alot.

 

What one must wonder, is why Israel is overtly supporting a Al Quaeda / muslim brotherhood who will doubtlessly be committed to their destruction. This includes operating hospitals inside israel for al quaeda.

http://www.debka.com/article/22959/Israeli--and-Hizballah-controlled-enc...

 

Makes one wonder if a force is at work trying to line up something biblical.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:52 | 3544575 Canadian Dirtlump
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I found this interesting, a narrative stating that more "Rebels" are "defecting" to essentially Al Quaeda. I wonder if this is a PR spin to pull back from rebel support or what?

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/08/free-syrian-army-rebels-defe...

 

Either way, here's hoping all supporters of syrian rebels, and the rebels themselves all get ebola zaire for their next birthday.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 12:38 | 3544967 Rustysilver
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Hey Canadian,

As I recall, Israel was support Iran during Iran / Iraq thing. So, at least to me, very little makes sense in ME.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 15:39 | 3545771 Kirk2NCC1701
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Use Occam's Razor. Simplicity over complexity:  In whose interest is it to have weak, squabbling neighbors? 

1. Is it easier to increase water rights from up north from a strong Syria or weak Syria? 

2. Is it easier to have an Iraqi-Syrian oil/gas pipeline from a strong Syria or weak Syria? 

3. Is it easier to deal with a Lebanese Hezbollah with a strong Syria or weak Syria?  "You and what army?"  -Shrek.

Whaddya get when you add up (cascade) 1-3?  QED.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 11:59 | 3544812 Uncle Remus
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golden shower

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 09:52 | 3544294 Troy Ounce
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Finally some good news.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 09:54 | 3544314 Cognitive Dissonance
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Mrs Cog would be very pleased with me if I could ring her bell as many times as you pushed the "save" button bro.

What's your secret?

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:42 | 3544543 Troy Ounce
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Impatient personality without object empathy. Sorry!

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:46 | 3544562 kito
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tyler erased my high frequency posting jab...what gives??????

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 09:55 | 3544318 pods
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Short bursts or you will warp the barrel.

pods

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:00 | 3544341 Cognitive Dissonance
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I was gonna say something snarky here, but I decided not to after remembering that Mrs. Cog reads ZH.  :)

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:07 | 3544379 Dr. Engali
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+1 LOl

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:13 | 3544399 Cognitive Dissonance
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The good news is that the dog house now has heat and hot water. The bad news is that it's still a dog house.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:17 | 3544415 krispkritter
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If I read you correctly, it's also occasionally the 'Cog house'...

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:18 | 3544424 Cognitive Dissonance
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But it does have wifi so it's all good bro. I can still post on ZH while "in residence". :)

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:17 | 3544418 Mrs. Cog
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LOL

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:21 | 3544434 Cognitive Dissonance
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Excuse me honey.....but you promised never to show yourself in public without your veil.  :)

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:27 | 3544453 Dr. Engali
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Hello..Mrs. Cog (if this is really you and not CD or some other scoundrel in disguise) welcome to the Hedge. You need to keep an eye on your husband. He likes to stir up trouble :)

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:30 | 3544482 Mrs. Cog
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Hi Doc... (it IS really me) and thank you for the welcome. He's really not that much trouble.... usually ;)

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:34 | 3544502 Cognitive Dissonance
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Against my heartfelt and sincere advice Mrs. Cog decided to come out and play sans her usual disguise.

Play nice boys or she will eat you for lunch.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:39 | 3544524 Dr. Engali
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This is fight club...although I suddenly feel compelled to clean up my language :)

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:44 | 3544553 Cognitive Dissonance
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She is no slouch and can hold her own with the best. I am a foot taller and twice Mrs. Cog's weight. Even with this considerable advantage she can pin me to the wall in a New York minute either with her sharp tongue or her martial arts training.

So I do everything Mrs. Cog tells me to do. :)

<And I promise you.....you do not want to be around her when she is pissed.>

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 11:03 | 3544631 pods
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But does Mrs. Cog know that you are trying  to get pinned to the wall?

pods

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 11:04 | 3544641 Cognitive Dissonance
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Sshhhhh

<When Mrs. Cog is happy everyone is happy.>  :)

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 18:18 | 3546338 RockyRacoon
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You newcomers are just insufferable.   Oh, wait....

An old denizen in a new wrapper.  We'll have to have a talk on the side with CD about keeping you in line.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:10 | 3544388 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Plant more radishes, Mrs. Cog.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:17 | 3544417 Cognitive Dissonance
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We are moving to our Plan B residence in a month so Mrs. Cog didn't want to plant the garden at the old place and then abandon it mid season. So I was forced to plant a few rows of radishes myself just to keep the SPICE flowing. :)

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:20 | 3544433 TheFourthStooge-ing
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There's always time for radishes. They only take 30 days or so, equivalent to a worst-case stint in the Cog house, I mean dog house.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:22 | 3544444 Cognitive Dissonance
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That's what I said. But then she gave me that look, the one that says "Don't mess with me buster."

I found the seeds and planted them myself.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:30 | 3544486 kito
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hey cog....you probably already answered this.....whats the reason to move to plan b???? is plan b the plan when you sense the imminent u.s. economic storm???

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:40 | 3544531 Cognitive Dissonance
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Not imminent by any means. At least not from my point of view. However to be fair Mrs. Cog does feel a greater sense of urgency than I.

But we both believe that by the time we sensed that the crap was about to hit the fan our ability to do everything we want to do might be severely hindered by capital controls, currency wars, martial law and so on. The bottom line was that since we do not know how this will play out, only that it will play out, we wanted to be in situ before and not wishing we were.

In this situation there is no such thing as too early.....just too late.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:44 | 3544554 kito
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if i may ask, what are the general demographics of the plan b place vs where you are now? do you factor in community support, or prefer to go it alone?

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:54 | 3544591 Cognitive Dissonance
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Much more rural than where we presently live. Higher elevation, no zoning laws for maximum flexibility and self sufficiency, small scattered local population but they are very capable of taking care of themselves and each other. Farm country up on a mountainous plateau. Plenty of acreage both cleared and wooded. Two sources of fresh water, no county water and sewer utilities to be dependent upon.......you get the idea.

We wanted to integrate into the local community now rather than be strangers precisely when we needed friends.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 11:00 | 3544619 kito
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very nice. thanks for the info..........

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 11:14 | 3544662 Cognitive Dissonance
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The "no zoning law" was something both Mrs. Cog and I didn't consider as very important at first. In fact on the surface it appears to create disorder because a trailer park can be placed in front of a McMansion, making both appear to be out of place. In a world of row houses and manicured lawns conformity to the herd is all that counts.

But when it comes to trying to find any way possible to make a living or even just to put basic food stuffs on the table no zoning means that I can pretty much do as I want as long as it meets building codes. That is extremely valuable when the economy sustains maximum stress. What good is plenty of open land if zoning doesn't allow for farm animals or a shoe string business to be placed on your land?

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 11:34 | 3544734 kito
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very true. are you losing much of the growing season by heading for higher altitude?

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 11:56 | 3544797 Mrs. Cog
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Yes, but I don't mind so much this year. Cog has to get our deer fencing up before any earnest planting is undertaken. The temperature and weather conditions look to give us the same growing season that we have now, so it is the move itself and getting organized that will curtail our harvest.

No worries though, I have promised Cog there will be no interruption of radish production once we are there.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 12:31 | 3544945 kito
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Lol....thanks ma'am......

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 20:54 | 3546716 samsara
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We wanted to integrate into the local community now rather than be strangers precisely when we needed friends.

 

That's what I been telling people for about 8-10 years now.

In the future, the most frightening phrase you will be asked is;

"YOU AIN'T FROM AROUND HERE ARE YA?"

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:23 | 3544445 i-dog
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Is that radishes, or "radishes"?

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:02 | 3544350 SamAdams
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+1

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:27 | 3544464 forwardho
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My goodness, I didn't know Troy was an algo.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 09:53 | 3544305 Mad Max
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If you don't have an Archduke Ferdinand to kill, make one up, then kill him.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 09:53 | 3544306 kito
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did israel also inform the US that the US is GIVING arms to al quaeda in syria?????????? oh the hypocrisy boils my blood...........

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:14 | 3544403 i-dog
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Shhhhh ... it's a secret.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:22 | 3544441 Ignatius
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As long as they don't give them WMDs... you know, pressure cookers.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 09:53 | 3544307 Cognitive Dissonance
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This is all very confusing to me. Russia selling weapons to Syria is bad.....but US giving/selling weapons to Al CIAda is good?

Someone help me here.....please.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:01 | 3544345 Rustysilver
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Cognitive Dissonance,

You don't need any help.  You understand things very well.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:09 | 3544367 Cognitive Dissonance
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I thought so as well. But then I fall off the wagon after watching the all war channel (CNN) for 5 mins and I can't get back up again.

<My eye, my eye. What have you done to my mind's eye?>

BTW the "new" buzz phrase is "Shelter in place" and it's taking the US by Storm Trooper.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:25 | 3544459 Ignatius
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What's the federal pay grade for the guy that comes up with these euphamisms?  Must be like atleast a G-13 or higher.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 11:03 | 3544630 Cognitive Dissonance
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G-13 or higher and a copy of 1984 (pdf) always at hand.

<Animal Farm (pdf) as well.>

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:39 | 3544523 Bastiat
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It used to be called house arrest.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:02 | 3544351 Mad Max
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We have ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia!

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:21 | 3544435 Joe Davola
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aka - proving grounds.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:04 | 3544364 Mad Max
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And to think the "infamous terrorist" here could be either Morpheus OR Emmanuel Goldstein - in fact it could be both!

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:23 | 3544447 uno
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So what FEDS support JIHAD with AL QADEA against Christians in Syria, declare JIHAD against Christians and returning Vets in US, and just for fun arms Sinola Cartel

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 09:54 | 3544310 pods
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I'm gonna call my big brother on you!

pods

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 09:55 | 3544317 kito
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DADDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 09:57 | 3544328 otto skorzeny
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Would be nice if big bro refused to fight little bro's battles for him any more.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:04 | 3544355 kito
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u.s. cant hit syria directly..... israel cant hit iran directly......so israel hits syria directly with the hopes that iran gets involved so israel can hit iran and the u.s. can then hit both.............................makes sense to me...............................ultimately, as you said yesterday otto, its what the US wants......its the US money that flows..its the US military weapons that flow.........................

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:18 | 3544407 Kinskian
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What the US wants? It'll keep the Zionist campaign contributions flowing to submissive US politicians, and in Lindsey Graham's case, buy another day where the Mossad won't be releasing the pictures of you being double penetrated.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:21 | 3544430 Dr. Engali
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Thanks for burning a horrible image in my mind. I have to think of something to get it out now...Rosie  O'donnell naked...Rosie  O'donnell naked...Rosie  O'donnell naked....

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:27 | 3544465 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Dr. Engali said:

Thanks for burning a horrible image in my mind. I have to think of something to get it out now...Rosie  O'donnell naked...Rosie  O'donnell naked...Rosie  O'donnell naked....

...standing behind a bent over Lindsey Graham and penetrating him with two strapons, as John McCain, attired in a frilly bra and panties, sings into Lindsey's ear "bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran".

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:33 | 3544460 LeisureSmith
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Massive Ordnance Penetrator is more than just a awsome porn name.... someone somewhere is itching to try out the new toys.

On the s300, Russia might be selling them some "software" to go with the hardware also. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZWPyy8Nfj4

A better video without the 80s infomercial syhth-pop. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vnjLjzPeSc

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:03 | 3544356 francis_sawyer
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Well if Israel is so worried about it... I suggest they go right in & start carpet bombing Moscow...

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:06 | 3544373 Mad Max
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BREAKING STORY: "Israeli" attack on Russian Naval Base in Syria.  News at 11!

/future

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:38 | 3544519 Aurora Ex Machina
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A massive blast at a munitions dump in southern Cyprus has killed 12 people, including the commander of the country's navy, officials say.

A fire reportedly ignited about 100 containers holding confiscated Iranian explosives at the naval base at Zygi.

The fire spread to the island's largest power station. It has been knocked out, resulting in widespread power cuts.

Defence Minister Costas Papacostas and National Guard Chief Petros Tsalikides resigned over the accident.

President Dimitris Christopfias, who went to the area, described the explosion as "a catastrophe of biblical proportions".

He added: "We were devastated by this event, not so much by the material damage, but by the loss of human lives and the injury of many of our compatriots."

The dead also include the commander of the Evangelos Florakis naval base, police said. About 60 people were wounded in the blast.

Government spokesman Stefanos Stefanou said sabotage had been ruled out. [BBC 11th July 2011]

 

Running the same play twice would be bad form.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:45 | 3544559 Herd Redirectio...
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Yes, exactly, get those IDF troops lined up, and start marching for Moscow.  Let us know what happens.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:36 | 3544512 Sandmann
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Israel wants National Guardsmen from the US to do the dirty work. After all it is what the USA is good for. Remember Leo Strauss and Albert Wohlstetter and their disciples Richard Perle and Wolfowitz......they know what Americans are good for.......knocking over Iraq, knocking over Libya, knocking over Syria.......all brawn and no brain......the brain is supplied from outside

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 12:11 | 3544862 Uncle Remus
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Putin:"Go ahead, make my day."

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 12:52 | 3545037 Rustysilver
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Uncle Remus,

The best that Putin did was to pay off IMF loans and told them to get the Fucck out. He is doing this with the NGO's but rather clumsy.

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 10:20 | 3544428 crzyhun
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Which one? Big Bloomberg or Big Administration?

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 09:55 | 3544316 FieldingMellish
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Ruh-roh. /Scooby-doo

Thu, 05/09/2013 - 09:56 | 3544320 alien-IQ
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Is it my imagination or does Israel appear to be walking America right into World War 3?

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