Guest Post: The New European Revolt

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Originally posted at Populyst blog,

Some young Europeans have given up on change. They just want to leave.

One of the main benefits of forecasts based on demographics is the fact that they can be more precise and therefore more reliable than others. For example, the number of people aged 40 in the United States twenty years from now is roughly the same number of people aged 20 today, minus premature deaths plus new immigrants. A prediction that enjoys a similar inevitability is that welfare programs as currently defined will certainly be unaffordable a few years from now, given the aging of the population and concomitant rising dependency ratio.

An expensive legacy.

An expensive legacy.

It is a fair bet that one way or another, the current generation of young people will be unwilling and/or unable to pay for Social Security and Medicare as they presently stand. Of course, Western Europe has the same problem and President Hollande of France recently got a whiff of what is coming from an open letter addressed to him by a 20-year old student named Clara G.

In summary, Clara does not believe it fair that she and her generation should be saddled with the enormous debt accumulated by Mr. Hollande’s generation. As a remedy, she is considering leaving France for friendlier pastures. She says she is not alone and cites a recent poll by Viavoice which found that a shocking 50% of French people aged 18-34 wish to leave France. Forty-five years after the upheavals of Mai 68, half of the young of France are more interested in exile than in change.

Addressing the President directly, she writes:

“This will probably shock you, but it is mainly for fiscal reasons,… simply because I do not feel like working all my life to pay taxes, a large part of which will only service the 1.9 trillion Euros of debt that your generation has kindly left us. If these borrowings had at least been invested to prepare the future of the country, if I was getting a small benefit from them, it would not be a problem for me to help repay them. But this debt only helped your generation live above its means, and assure itself a generous social safety net which I will not have.

 

(…)

 

My labor and my taxes will also pay for your generation’s retirement which you did not bother to plan, and for all the health and support expenses incurred by the elderly who in less than twenty years will be a majority of the population. So what will be left for me to live and to raise my children?

 

(…)

 

And, if by some improbable miracle, I managed to make a lot of money, I know already that not only will I be paying most of it in taxes, but I will also endure the general reproach of my compatriots and your personal disdain.

 

This is why, Mr. President, I am thinking of leaving France. And why your [government] should be less worried about the dangers of immigration and more concerned with the threats of emigration by the youth of this country. Where would I go? Perhaps to Germany, a country that you frequently disparage but which looks like a confident country. Or perhaps further, to Canada or Australia. Or to a developing country. To Africa, why not?”

But not to the United States, Clara?

She continues:

“Yes, I want to go to a country where there is growth, where wages are rising, where being rich is not a deadly sin, a country in short where the individual and the society have confidence that tomorrow will be brighter than today.”

I wrote recently that developed nations with deteriorating demographics will have a big problem if large taxpayers decided to move away to lower tax jurisdictions. Clara’s letter suggests that an exodus by the young would be just as damaging, indeed probably more damaging.

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Fri, 05/10/2013 - 20:45 | 3550325 Yen Cross
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      Moar gargoyles...

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:29 | 3550367 freewolf7
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"Clara does not believe it fair that she and her generation should be saddled with the enormous debt accumulated by Mr. Hollande’s generation."

"Previous generations were also resistant, Clara, but in the end, you too will succumb to the calling to sacrifice your ideals for the allure of two jobs, fewer luxuries, a few children...a line of credit...true love...You're getting sleepy, Clara, very sleepy..."

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:52 | 3550529 LetThemEatRand
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"you too will succumb to the calling to sacrifice your ideals for the allure of two jobs"

Having 3 jobs is uniquely American.  America.  Fuck Yeah!

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:28 | 3550621 Pure Evil
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I thought having no job and collecting benefits from the state was the New American Normal.

Do you have an Obama phone? No? Then there's something definitely wrong with you. Hey loser get with the program.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 23:23 | 3550716 LetThemEatRand
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Every phone now is an Obama phone in that he can listen in.  Fuck the 4th Amendment!

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 02:56 | 3550896 AldousHuxley
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Not in Russia

in USSR, you have freedom from Americans

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 03:13 | 3550900 i-dog
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Some sage advice for Clara, and other young ladies:

http://dickiebo.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/pdm-7a-8.jpg

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 00:13 | 3550781 RafterManFMJ
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As soon as you can get an iPhone Obama phone, I'm quitting my job and picking up a hobby. I'm leaning toward Heroin.

Ill be riding the Horse, baby!

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 07:50 | 3551088 jimmytorpedo
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Make sure your horse has a name, otherwise you might end up in the desert.

No cell reception in the desert.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 14:10 | 3551699 RafterManFMJ
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I'll try to shoot on Sunday, if I don't get to damn depressed...

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 23:26 | 3550723 Stuck on Zero
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How are young Americans going to support us and pay off our debts when we've sent all their jobs to China?

 

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 00:15 | 3550784 RafterManFMJ
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Why it sounds like you think more than 3 months ahead; no .gov or Wall Street job for you, SO0.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 09:41 | 3551205 Bobbyrib
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We won't. I hope you were one of the smarters ones in your generation and saved for retirement.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 13:58 | 3551681 koncaswatch
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I did... but not quite enough to overcome uncles Alan and Ben's money debasement program. I hope the cat food tastes better in the future.  

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 08:49 | 3551154 Diogenes
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I find it amusing that these young rebels are raised, fed, clothed, and educated at someone else's expense then suddenly discover the system is all wrong  as soon as they are expected to give something back.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 09:42 | 3551209 Bobbyrib
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Yeah, it's not like their parents and other family members are paying taxes to support the system. /sarcasm.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 13:31 | 3551616 Things that go bump
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They didn't ask to be born. The burden of life was thrust upon them the same as it was for everyone. Children can't consent to how they are raised and at whose expense - that decision is rightly or wrongly made for them by their caretakers. They are in no way responsible for the decisions made for them and under no obligation to pay back the expense incurred in the rearing of them. If they reach the age of their majority and look around them and decide that the debts incurred in their name and without their consent are insupportable they are going to do something about it. 

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 20:55 | 3550372 DoChenRollingBearing
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Europe: the world's largest outdoor museum

We can learn a lot from Europe.  Lessons include:

1) This is what you get when you elect Socialists.  Even the Nazi's were Socialists: National Socialists...

2) Allow uncontrolled immigration, you will get France...

3) Europe claims low crime rates, this is false.

4) Many of the smart kids (Clara) want to leave, not good!

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:13 | 3550419 RaceToTheBottom
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I believe the only "learning" going on will be the countries trying to emulate the American tax plan....  AKA "Hotel California" you can check out, but you can never leave

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:41 | 3550493 DoChenRollingBearing
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I believe that you are correct.  How regretable that is, that .gov would chase us to the ends of the Earth for MOAR!

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:53 | 3550531 LetThemEatRand
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.gov is a cover for the oligarchs.  If we take away .gov, we are left with .oligarch.  

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:55 | 3550538 DoChenRollingBearing
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Is .oli taken yet?

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 23:26 | 3550722 LetThemEatRand
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Cheney took it.  But it's available on GoDaddy for one shot in the face with Cheneyshot.  And you get Gitmo'd and don't get to ask any questions.  But you get to be ambassador to Libya.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 09:44 | 3551210 DaveyJones
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Cheney tried to take it

We're not "in control" of any of these places

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 09:00 | 3551167 psychobilly
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".gov is a cover for the oligarchs.  If we take away .gov, we are left with .oligarch."  

If we take away .gov, we are left with .oligarch without the power -- under color of "the law" -- to steal from people and otherwise force them into doing things that are against their interests.

What's worse: .gov always attracts the worst, mentally deranged scum imaginable because no mentally healthy person desires to rule over others.  The worst of the worst will excel at demogoguery, deceit and false promises of free lunches, and make it to the top of the greasy pole known as .gov.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 23:08 | 3550689 Anusocracy
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Socialists are the cultural descendants of the hunter-gatherer culture, the National Socialists are the cultural descendants of the pharaonic culture. The main differences between them is that the pharaonic culture had plant and animal husbandry, greater reliance on technology, and rudimentary individual property rights.

Both believed that the collective - tribe for the socialists, State for the National Socialists - was sovereign.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 02:15 | 3550867 AldousHuxley
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socialism works for small societies in Europe...like a family unit.

In large socieities like USA, no ism works well.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 09:45 | 3551211 Bobbyrib
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Which societies did socialism work in?

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 11:11 | 3551311 e-recep
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why is the united states "united" again?

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 06:22 | 3551029 Tompooz
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"4) Many of the smart kids (Clara) want to leave, not good!"

 

Not good for Europe, but great for the countries that welcome them in.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 17:24 | 3552114 thisandthat
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The Nazi party was eminently right-wing populist/nationalist, and frontally opposed to socialism/communism: "The party was created as a means to draw workers away from communism and into völkisch nationalism." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party (from: Otis C. Mitchell. Hitler's Stormtroopers and the Attack on the German Republic, 1919–1933. Jefferson, North Carolina, USA: McFarland & Company, Inc., 2008. p. 47.)

History: learn it.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 23:42 | 3552912 Waffen
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This, look, national socialism was a form of government to serve its folk. A nation in this sense was its people.

I would be ok with socialism if it existed to serve and support people genetically like myself who have a common goal, values, principles and genetics.

However in Amerca we have non of that now in America.

"Diversity is a strength," is one of those ridiculously stupid concepts repeated enough that people will believe it.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 16:11 | 3554078 thisandthat
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F.U.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:14 | 3550425 Element
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What she describes sounds a lot like what might be described as a DEPRESSION.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 20:39 | 3550329 Rustysilver
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They're only one problem for Clara: where the hell do you move to. Every place is like France.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 20:46 | 3550346 suicidalpsychologist
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There is massive emigration of french youth in their 20s/30s to north america (quebec/canada) while millions of third worlders from africa and the middle east are poured constantly into the country by cynical elites.  Unemployment is already alarming, yet the equivalent of 400 to 500 000 more third worlders are imported into france every single year.

As most europeans are atheists who dont reproduce anymore , whole europe will probably become muslim in a century. Russia has lots of chinese and moslems on its borders outnumbering its own population; I predict whole eurasia will become a sino muslim alliance, and will probably take over australia and africa.

When you dont have kids anymore, you get replaced by those who still bother reproducing. It's as simple as that.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 20:54 | 3550369 A Middle Child ...
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Unfortunately, those having hordes of kids are overwhelmingly represented by those who are too retarded to understand how to use birth control. We are all doomed.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:03 | 3550380 suicidalpsychologist
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It s a bit more complicated than that; those third worlders in fact willingly outnumber the natives with the sole and only purpose to replace them. It s all part of the plan ; muslims wether they re black or arab want their revenge against the old white dying rotten man, the oppressor, the esclavagist , colon etc. Add to that atheist , depressed, suicidal old white people who hate themselves, their roots, and see patriotism as nazism are giving up on having/raising kids and leaving the country willingly to these third worlders. The big loser is indeed the poor white youth who s getting raped by both their elders and the invaders imported by them. The richest socialo communist -so called hippies who became millionaires in the "30 glorieuses / golden era" that followed ww2 actually sold their countries to the third world, while living themselves far away from all the crap they ve imported and created. They protect their own kids when they have any puting them in nice neighborhoods, while the white middle and lower social classes are flooded and beaten into submission by the muslims "immigrants".

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:07 | 3550399 nobita
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heh. Im white, atheist, depressed and suicidal. But I have a kid! 

 

 

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:17 | 3550414 suicidalpsychologist
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Well, you become a depressed atheist who doesnt even know why he gave birth to a kid only AFTER abandoning Christianity, or having been led to abandon it by your own parents/grandparents. So it's only a matter of going back to your roots to give a new meaning to your existence.

Back on subject; I was born in france of german parents and lived there for 26 years before moving to french canada, so I know quite a bit on the matter. France is toast; so are italy, spain, belgium, germany; most of their youth are from the middle east or black africa. Old europe is dying slowly but surely. Abandoning Christianism to convert to atheism which in itself is a form of belief system -a nihilistic one; consum, buy, destroy, dominate, but dont reproduce "enjoy life ot its fullest without thinking of the consequencies"- led them to stop reproducing so ultimately they re disapearing. I see the same trend developing in north america, with the US becoming more and more like any european socialist shithole; these ideas traveled over the ocean to corrupt the minds of your own elites. Big cities full of cynical, self hating capitalist hippies abusing everything and leaving nothing behind them but despair and ruins, which will benefit to the third world moving north.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:20 | 3550445 nobita
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My parents did try (halfheartedly) to raise me christian. 

But my people value critical thinking above anything. It is the most important skill a human can have, and thus I do not not believe in God. Because it is a fairy tale.

And I know why I had a kid. Because I wanted to and I am happy I did.

He is great, the joy of my life. 

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:33 | 3550477 DoChenRollingBearing
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Nice dialog, + 1 all the way up.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:40 | 3550489 fonzannoon
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What religion am I? I believe in a higher power. I believe we are all here for a reason. I believe when our time is done here, something else happens after. I have faith that the people I love, I will see again in the afterlife.

I have no fuckin clue who is running the show, and why they allow so much fucked up shit to take place. I believe that most people who subscribe to an organzed religion have every right to do so, but deep down I think they are deluded. Whoever is up there has also made it clear that I am on my own and it's up to me to look after myself and my own.

What am I considered?

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:44 | 3550502 nobita
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No you are not. You are just not religious. Maybe you can be called spiritual?

I obviously do not know if there is a God or not, but I am 100% sure all religion is bullshit so I call myself atheist for lack of a better word.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:55 | 3550536 nmewn
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"I obviously do not know if there is a God or not..."

"But my people value critical thinking above anything. It is the most important skill a human can have, and thus I do not not believe in God. Because it is a fairy tale."

Can someone unwind this for me?

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:57 | 3550545 nobita
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I meant religion is too unlikely to be true. No idea if there is a God or not.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:32 | 3550625 nmewn
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What religion is unlikely to be true?

Sounds like you have more of an issue with a former religion, than whether God exists.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:39 | 3550640 nobita
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Dude. All of them. Which religion do you find plausible?

I have issues with with every single religion I have come across and those I have only read about. None of them make any sense at all.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 23:19 | 3550708 nmewn
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The one I find most plausible is the one that does not force conversion to it by government decree or tax.

"None of them make any sense at all."

Well, I don't know what you've been exposed to but most religions (outside of a few) rest on the simple things of observable values, good & evil, right & wrong, admiration & disdain.

You can take them or leave them as they are without denigrating them all.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 01:22 | 3550837 francis_sawyer
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Zero Hedge puts up a notice about race & religion & the next thing you know... ENTIRE threads talk about God & religion...

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U people are fucking hilarious...

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