This page has been archived and commenting is disabled.

Visualizing The Shrinking Dollar

Tyler Durden's picture




 

The almighty dollar is looking less mighty these days. By almost every measure, the purchasing power of the US dollar is in precipitous decline.

 

 

 

 

- advertisements -

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:05 | 3550389 Cursive
Cursive's picture

Thank you, BernanQE, I can now buy less than 1/4th a loaf of bread as my parents used to buy.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:09 | 3550410 LetThemEatRand
LetThemEatRand's picture

Actually, even less.  Your parents bought bread.  You are buying bread flavored loaf -- now with real bread flavoring.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:13 | 3550421 ACP
ACP's picture

Would that be Soylent White?

I like the sourdough Soylent myself.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:16 | 3550434 LetThemEatRand
LetThemEatRand's picture

It's Sheeple!!!!!

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:23 | 3550444 DoChenRollingBearing
DoChenRollingBearing's picture

It's magic!

 

Actually all I really care about (and can influence) is my own (and family's) financial circumstances.  

The Yen (and perhaps soon Korea's Won) are in freefall, which for now gives us a good deal on bearings from those countries.

In a way it is sad that I now feel that way.  Thanks .gov and Fed.  Thanks a lot.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:26 | 3550457 ACP
ACP's picture

Pretty much puts everyone else in the "bearing" straights?

HARDY-HAR-HAR!

 

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:29 | 3550462 DoChenRollingBearing
DoChenRollingBearing's picture

Now that's just cold...

One more for FEMA Camp.  Next!

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 23:57 | 3550757 Jam Akin
Jam Akin's picture

I see that "Mad Arrow" is on board tonight.  Purse your lips, pucker up and kiss my ass Mad Arrow.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 01:38 | 3550852 markmotive
markmotive's picture

Dude with the Yen breaching 100 I think it's the Japanese consumer who deserves the most sympathy right now.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 02:53 | 3550893 Wile-E-Coyote
Wile-E-Coyote's picture

How much does a loaf cost made of saw dust, coming to a store near you soon!!

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 04:43 | 3550964 jbvtme
jbvtme's picture

"wheat is the anti-christ"

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 06:03 | 3551017 negative rates
negative rates's picture

It's in decline, but stronger than many others, it's the reserve currency, but everyday we need more of it to do the things we are used to doing.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 09:47 | 3551213 spine001
spine001's picture

The worst part is that eventhouvh economists recognize that what they do is not a science and that most of the time they are wrong. Their true honest intellectuals are honestly convinced that they are right and that the problem  is not enough fiscal deficit spending. Oh and they call me a brilliant mind with "novel ideas" when I challenge them in their own turf. But they d9nt have time to give them a try ansd see the falacy in their models and understanding. It seems that the only way to challenge them would be to do a PhD in finance and prove them wrong. I dont know that there iss enough  time. At the same time I dont know that there isnt...

Until next time,

Engineer

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 11:00 | 3551294 General Decline
General Decline's picture

"Their true honest intellectuals are honestly convinced that they are right and that the problem is not enough fiscal deficit spending."

I disagree. They are intentionally trying to take the system down do as to usher a new system in. Prepare accordingly.

- also an engineer, if that makes a difference.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 14:24 | 3551731 Skateboarder
Skateboarder's picture

Engineer #3 (me) agrees with engineer #2's disagreement about engineer #1's post. We are seeing an orchestrated collapse. A poorly ocrchestrated one, but orchestrated nonetheless. You're either in their club or you aint. If you in, you better have some damn good doublespeak and be able to doublethink like a champ.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 10:36 | 3551261 ejmoosa
ejmoosa's picture

And Bryers's Frozen Dairy Dessert?  That would be Soylent Cream,

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:20 | 3550440 freewolf7
freewolf7's picture

LTER, thanks that was great.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:55 | 3550535 Jena
Jena's picture

Something else very satisfying to make yourself.  It's easy to do especially with a bread machine and it's not very expensive.  The smell of freshly baked bread is fantastic.  I have a loaf of honey oatmeal whole wheat just finishing up and the aroma has filled the house.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:00 | 3550553 LetThemEatRand
LetThemEatRand's picture

Thanks, Martha.   Got any stock tips?

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:03 | 3550563 Jena
Jena's picture

Sure.  Buy low, sell high.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:14 | 3550593 AlaricBalth
AlaricBalth's picture

Jena,
That is so 80's.
The new paradigm is buy high, sell higher.
Thanks to the Fed, the greater fool theory now reigns supreme.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:33 | 3550627 Jena
Jena's picture

I guess that's why we're on the sidelines, other than PMs.  We got out with a profit but we're happy to leave it to those more clever -- or foolish, as you say AB.

I'd rather bet on my my husband's business than risk it in the market where nothing appears sustainable. 

On the upside there, bronze is cheaper than it's been in years, a side effect of cheap copper. 

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 17:26 | 3551448 e-recep
e-recep's picture

BERNANKE SAVED THE WORLD!!! THE WORST IS OVER!!! JUST BTFD!!!

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:34 | 3550631 LetThemEatRand
LetThemEatRand's picture

Buy high!  That has so many double meanings.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 16:50 | 3552058 longwind
longwind's picture

I only buy high. I sell depressed.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 01:37 | 3550850 capitallosses
capitallosses's picture

I thought these days it was simply BTFD.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 11:50 | 3553584 odatruf
odatruf's picture

The "market" can only go up, ergo it is lower now than it will be soon, ergo in a dip relative to the future, ergo buy now.

 

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 11:50 | 3551407 Montgomery Burns
Montgomery Burns's picture

Bread is a big part of why there are so many fat people in the US. Maybe yours is slightly more healthy than most but im sure it still has a relatively large amount of fat and some type of sweetener in it.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 23:46 | 3550745 vulcanraven
vulcanraven's picture

MADE WITH REAL FRUIT JUICE*

 

 

 

 

*contains less than 1% juice

 

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 04:37 | 3550961 SmittyinLA
SmittyinLA's picture

"real bread flavoring" good to know there's still some room for further food debasement.

 

We still have room for "bread flavoring" then "simulated bread flavoring", and  "loaf" has unlimited potential for food debasement.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 08:29 | 3551132 chubbar
chubbar's picture

OT, but a nice recap of Benghazi.

"America has a rare second chance to stem the tide of tyrannical oppression which is sweeping this country. Every American needs to become a citizen journalist through the upcoming summer. Each American needs to become responsible for spreading the truth about the criminals who have hijacked our government. I am not seeking a revolution against the United States government, I am seeking to drive the criminals from power who have hijacked our government. These criminals are destroying this country through abuse of power, malfeasance of office, treason against the Constitution of the United States, fraud, theft and ultimately murder. They need to be brought to justice at all costs. Obama and Clinton need to be tried for first degree murder for the planned death of Chris Stevens.

Testimony of government whistle-blowers has established the fact that there was plenty of opportunity for the Obama administration to save the life of Ambassador Stevens and his security detail. However, the Communist News Network (CNN) as well as ABC, NBC and CBS refuse to provide any meaningful coverage of the C-Span televised congressional hearings. However, the truth is out there on Youtube and all through the internet. I don’t care if the MSM refuses to cover the first degree murder of Chris Stevens carried out at the behest of key members of the Obama administration. We, the general public can take this information and disseminate it to a dozen colleagues, friends and family members because the present congress will not act.

The Memory of Chris Stevens Cries Out for Justice

Chris Stevens and his security team need not have died in vain. The circumstances surrounding his death give freedom-loving Americans the chance to expose elements of the NWO to the unaware public. Over the next week to 10 days, we are going to see a multitude of evidence which shows the following facts:

  • · We now know that Hillary Clinton suddenly resigned as the Secretary of State but not before it was established that three times Stevens requested an increase in his security detail and three times, Clinton refused to honor the request, thus leaving Stevens exposed. With all the money that this administration wastes and with the billions of dollars of fraud connected to the bailouts as perpetrated by this administration, are we really supposed to believe that Clinton could not assign a dozen more marines to protect the ambassador? It is clear that Clinton, on behalf of the Obama Administration want ed Stevens dead because he was the link between the administration and gun running to al Qaeda. Can you imagine the fall out when al Qaeda takes down an American airliner with one of the 20,000 stinger missiles that we let “fall” into al Qaeda’s hand in Libya.
  • · We know that in defiance of Obama’s orders, Admiral Gayoutte and General Hamm attempted to launch a rescue mission to the save the life of Chris Stevens. They were promptly arrested, relieved of their command and being held in undisclosed locations and the Ambassador’s last hope to stay alive was squashed. These two men are heroes.
  • · We now know that David Patreaus did not resign from his role as CIA Director because of an extra-marital affair. He resigned because as CIA Director because Congress could have compelled his testimony. As a private citizen, he could invoke the Fifth Amendment and claim the right to avoid self-incrimination. This is critical to understand because it is now clear that Stevens was providing guns, for the CIA, to al Qaeda to aid in the proxy invasion of Libya and now in Syria. Stevens had to be silenced as this administration could not be seen as complicit with the alleged planners of 9/11. As CIA Director, Patreaus was caught in the middle. It is also appears likely that Patreaus was not on board with the Obama’s assassination of Stevens and could not be counted on to take a bullet for the administration. Congress should have interviewed him six months ago. I pray for Patraeus’ safety. Given Hillary’s penchant for being followed by a trail of dead bodies (see Part one), his life is in grave danger.
  • · We now know that Clinton resigned as Secretary of State because like Patreaus, her testimony cannot be compelled, in opposition to her Fifth Amendment right to avoid self-incrimination.
  • · We now know that that there was a well-armed rendition (torture) camp less than a mile from the compound where Stevens and his security team were murdered at the behest of Obama.They could have rescued the Ambassador.
  • · We now know from the Hicks testimony, that there were weaponized drones flying overhead which could have stopped the attack on the compound. This means that there were three separate ways that Stevens could have been saved and Obama’s Murder Inc. blocked all three potential rescue attempts
  • · We now know, and the media cover-up is out in the open, that the media are nothing but lap dogs for Murder Inc. (the Obama administration). While the Hicks testimony, more damning that Watergate, was playing live on C-Span, the Communist News Network, under former CIA operative, Anderson Cooper, was silent on the issue. Also, the globalist controlled media of ABC, NBC and CBS were mum as well. If there is a silver lining to this tragedy it shows why none of us should ever watch the corporate controlled presstitutes except to see what the enemy is up to"
Sat, 05/11/2013 - 13:33 | 3551619 RockyRacoon
RockyRacoon's picture

How come they wanted Stevens dead?  That's the part I must have missed.

Just trying to get all the puzzle pieces sorted by pattern.

"...planned death of Chris Stevens."

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 18:18 | 3552190 nmewn
nmewn's picture

The only thing that makes sense is if they were in fact running guns to AQ affiliates in Syria. He was a lose end.

I don't subscribe to this theory of "a hit" as there are plenty of people that would know what he knew as well, up & down the food chain/command structure. I think everyone knows my lack of respect for O'Barry & Hitlary, I'd love to nail em to the wall on something like that...but I don't think so.

More than likely its just what it is as we know so far...bloated, bureaucratic, incompetence. Other nations had already moved out their staff or increased security, throughout Libya, which is what is coming out now...they were asking for more security and were refused...plus they farmed out "guards" to the locals.

Then when TSHTF they froze. The big question is where was "our" Commander in Chief that night, apparently sleeping, while Americans were being slaughtered.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 19:04 | 3552240 The Grip
The Grip's picture

Yep. Hanlon's Razor. "Explains" a lot more than I formerly sheepishly believed. Even in my backyard. 

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 15:19 | 3551887 mt paul
mt paul's picture

wood kiln baked

sourdough french ...

 

let them eat

real  bread..

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:43 | 3550501 The Swedish Chef
The Swedish Chef's picture

Yeah, and you make five times as much as your dad made a month... Kind of adds upp, does it not?

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 08:50 | 3551157 ParkAveFlasher
ParkAveFlasher's picture

Actually, no.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 12:21 | 3551475 The Swedish Chef
The Swedish Chef's picture

Then you need a new job.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:27 | 3550619 Taint Boil
Taint Boil's picture

 

 

What … You got bread in your house? It really throws salt on the wounds when the rich people come here to brag and rub it in.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 22:25 | 3552729 A Nanny Moose
A Nanny Moose's picture

You didn't bake that.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 06:24 | 3551030 CheapBastard
CheapBastard's picture

Bread and dark chocolate are  up over 100%...gold up over 100% from it's $700/oz level.....silver used to be about $10/oz....even a can of sardines is up over 100%....Anyone who does not see this is blind.

 

Other things that were already overpriced (like housesand clothes) are plunging but have levelled off a little for awhile at last before they continue their correction downward.

 

 

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 07:19 | 3551063 onthesquare
onthesquare's picture

I take in less than 1500 calories per day.  Feel great

Food is so over-rated

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 08:08 | 3551104 pods
pods's picture

Yikes, I would die at that level.  I am at 3500-4k per day.  Real food though.

pods

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 09:57 | 3551223 IPA
IPA's picture

Amen to real food. the surprising thing about produce; it is generally cheap in comparison to say, a box of cheese it's. Just takes a bit more work to prep it and get it to the tabIe.  

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 15:47 | 3551940 jerry_theking_lawler
jerry_theking_lawler's picture

1500 calories.....sounds like a normal breakfast to me.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:05 | 3550391 W T F II
W T F II's picture

Yeah, all true, but it's goin' to the MOON is the next few months...CRASHVILLE is here

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:27 | 3550461 DoChenRollingBearing
DoChenRollingBearing's picture

That's why holding a fair amount of genuine FIAT dollars is not a bad idea.  Three months expenses if possible.  Good diversification that many people never think of.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:36 | 3550482 Bill Blackstone
Bill Blackstone's picture

+1.  Cash may not rule everything around me, but it does rule some.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 18:02 | 3552169 sessinpo
sessinpo's picture

Out of curiosity, can you tell me one person it doesn't rule?

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 23:09 | 3550691 lasvegaspersona
lasvegaspersona's picture

Truth is that fiat works fine as a medium of exchange. Who holds cash over the long haul? So what if the few $$$ in your safe loose 2% a year?

The problems start when we hold fiat (and derivatives) as a store of value. That forces us to earn a return..or try to...to keep up with inflation.

The big lie is that the dollar is as good as gold. It is not.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 18:18 | 3552192 sessinpo
sessinpo's picture

lasvegaspersona      "Truth is that fiat works fine as a medium of exchange. Who holds cash over the long haul? So what if the few $$$ in your safe loose 2% a year?

The problems start when we hold fiat (and derivatives) as a store of value. That forces us to earn a return..or try to...to keep up with inflation. The big lie is that the dollar is as good as gold. It is not."

 

Comment

Very few people actually hold derivatives or even trade derivatives as a measure of the population. 

And since you stated: "Truth is that fiat works fine as a medium of exchange. Who holds cash over the long haul? So what if the few $$$ in your safe loose 2% a year?",.

You have taken fiat out of the equation. In a way I disagree. The FRB has created an illusion of stability of the fiat currency system by keeping interest rates artificially low and additionally buying debt of at least $85 billion a month. When this mirage ends, and we have all been waiting and speculating on this ending, it will be horrible.

Quite frankly, this thread is misleading. Just yesterday (5-09-2013), a thread was posted about the rising dollar and the falling of commodities.

Sometimes when I come here lately, I feel like I am on Yahoo News which often has articles that contradict each other.

Deflation is the problem. Can you tell me why after trillions of money has been printed, why prices aren't much higher?

Do you recognize that there are trillions in debt that offset what is being printed?

Do you know that in a deflationary period such as after 1929, many people expected inflation (because of massive printing), but were wrong and they saw declining commodity prices and a rising dollar?

 

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 19:56 | 3552325 nc551
nc551's picture

It matters when you are paid in fiat and your income does not increase along with the inflation.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 17:58 | 3552163 sessinpo
sessinpo's picture

Very common sense thinking. thumbs up.

Until the dollar is dead, it is still the way debts are resolved. I have said this for over a year now on ZH. Holding some PMs is still a good thing because eventually the dollar will collapse and you want PMs for the breif time of turmoil.

It's funny when I get down arrows from PM bugs even though I hold some PMs. But history has shown that in a deflationary environment, most commodities including PMs go down as people and nations need to raise cash (US Dollar currency reserve) to settle debt obligations.

Another thread suggested the dollar rise was the result of margin calls. That is the same thing.

 

I would suggest at least 3 months of fiat and PMs stored for a time of turmoil. And don't forget your food, gun and ammo storage.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 20:20 | 3552379 klockwerks
klockwerks's picture

Keep some of it in smaller bills. All I had were 100's and one of the web sites I read, Canada Free Press with Doug Hagmann mentioned that some smaller bills were a good idea. I had not thought about it. Next trip to the bank I cashed a 7K check and ask the teller to give it in 10's and 20's. Here eyes got big and she ALL OF IT, yes mam, please

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:07 | 3550398 LetThemEatRand
LetThemEatRand's picture

My eyes have lied to me my whole life.  America!  Fuck Yeah!

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:30 | 3550468 BigDuke6
BigDuke6's picture

It's the end of empire or a pause for breath
She'll b right mate

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:09 | 3550402 freewolf7
freewolf7's picture

Bernanke looked miserable today. I revel in that.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 23:24 | 3550713 e_goldstein
e_goldstein's picture

He should count himself as one of the luckiest bastards of all time. Once, in this country, those who debased the money were executed; now, they get the bearded lady, Paul Krugman, to lick their sacks. 

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 02:58 | 3550898 Wile-E-Coyote
Wile-E-Coyote's picture

I noticed Bernanke shaved part is his beard. Shouldn't he have gone on the run first before changing his appearance?

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 13:35 | 3551624 RockyRacoon
RockyRacoon's picture

Wife says she spotted him in a hoodie the other day at Walgreens buying hair dye.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:13 | 3550404 Yen Cross
Yen Cross's picture

   The shrinking YUAN ? The second that this (usd/cyn) symbiotic relationship breaks?

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:15 | 3550429 Everybodys All ...
Everybodys All American's picture

Curious YC what you would consider shorting if the Fed is truly leaving the easing business.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:18 | 3550439 fonzannoon
fonzannoon's picture

I would short the human population for starters,

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:20 | 3550442 Everybodys All ...
Everybodys All American's picture

lol ... consumer staples.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:23 | 3550452 freewolf7
freewolf7's picture

Agree.
Long next life.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:31 | 3550458 fonzannoon
fonzannoon's picture

What would you short?

 If....and it is a giant if...the fed exited QE....and this is just my insanity...I would short any High yield bond I could find, and and MBS I could find. I would actually go long treasuries as money all over the planet would still stupidly decide safety is in UST's.

I'd short the shit out of the aussie dollar as gold would crash hard. I would take every single dollar I had from those gains, if I had any, and buy as much real assets as I could find. Because the subsequent crash in equities would end up in QE7 being unleashed. At that point I expect a worldwide treasury dump and game over.

Anyway, you?

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:52 | 3550522 Everybodys All ...
Everybodys All American's picture

Seems plausible. Some of these equities with extreme PE's are attractive from a short perspective. (see below). I'm also considering FOSL which is not an extreme PE but to me looks like when it breaks down it really breaks down.

I agree with much of what you are saying. I think the Fed sees the gold shortage as the major issue they have to deal with directly. Delivery of gold to individuals is causing the banks lots of headaches. Therefore lesser amounts of QE can and will take the pressure off of the gold price. All commodities got absolutely slammed today. I think someone knows whats about to come down from the Fed.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:51 | 3550661 kito
kito's picture

I would short atheism if it gets that bad........

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 23:18 | 3550707 fonzannoon
fonzannoon's picture

what's the ticker symbol?

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 23:30 | 3550732 Dr. Engali
Dr. Engali's picture

Styx

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 00:22 | 3550761 Jam Akin
Jam Akin's picture

I thought it was DOG 

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 03:11 | 3550909 BeetleBailey
BeetleBailey's picture

Fonz....that was a pleasant fiction.....but.....the giant "IF"....is too laughable to even fathom.

ONLY if the entire Congress, K street, and the Fed were wiped out in a giant sudden tsunami - and then Rand or Ron Paul got in power, would that ever happen.

The Fed is thinking up USD to infinity - they have no other choice now.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 03:01 | 3550902 Wile-E-Coyote
Wile-E-Coyote's picture

Go long body bags and lead blend Sunscreen.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:27 | 3550460 Yen Cross
Yen Cross's picture

   As Fonz and other fantastic posters have postulated. Buy lower denominations of gold, silver, and platinum coinage. Buy bullion for emergencies. (50toz bars) purchase rent, cars, ect...

   I trade fiat for a living. I have been honest and show my trades. Buy/hoard, gold silver platinum copper  (ferritic metals) ect.

 

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:44 | 3550500 Everybodys All ...
Everybodys All American's picture

I hope you did not think I was calling you out. I just know you trade quite a bit and I value your opinion. I'm looking for shorts of some equities that have bloated PE's or no earnings at all. TSLA, LNKD, AMZN are on my radar along with some others. What do you think?

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:54 | 3550534 Yen Cross
Yen Cross's picture

    I think bond yields are showing something nasty.

      How can multinational corps. be profitable with this sudden surge in the dollar?  I think that borrowing costs are delusional.

  As a landlord, I have zero interest in property acquistion. We're selling off the equity exuberance.

 

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:06 | 3550568 Everybodys All ...
Everybodys All American's picture

I will also say that I see many of these same firms buying their own stock with buybacks and essentially creating the earnings per share beat from these buybacks. When the market doesn't continue higher guess what all of a sudden happens to these EPS estimates.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:09 | 3550585 Yen Cross
Yen Cross's picture

 Exactly/

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 00:27 | 3550776 Jam Akin
Jam Akin's picture

It seems a lot of people have the same idea. Good link from today on this topic: http://www.stansberryresearch.com/growth-stock-wire/

I work in a global capital equipment business and signs are decidedly mixed at the moment.  Solid equipment sales and movement in the pipeline toward more - activity in all major markets around the world is greater than or equal to last year.  Also executive recruiting activity has shot up noticeably in the recent weeks.  Finally, the dollar euro cross is roughly equal year over year in its impact YTD so no significant difference from FOREX for 2/3 +/- of the world economy from this influence. (yet)

 

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:48 | 3550517 DoChenRollingBearing
DoChenRollingBearing's picture

Yen Cross

You make a good case for owning small gold coins as well...

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:00 | 3550552 Yen Cross
Yen Cross's picture

    Coins have intrinsic and tradable value.

If I walk into 7/11 with a 50 toz bar of siver to buy a slurpee?  It's pretty hard to make change.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 15:45 | 3551926 mt paul
mt paul's picture

sign on the wall at local Oxford assay shop..

all transactions over 4 thou 

must/will be reported to the IRS....

so if you tryed to sell 100 oz bar when silver was 42 $

you got paper trailed..

one might consider buying smaller ,more kilos 32 oz

silver would need 130 $ price to reach reportable limits

one ounce silver rounds best for barter trade..

one tenth oz gold coins ..smaller increments ..

this dollar game is about done..

the snow is melting spring on the tundra 

enjoy..

 

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:04 | 3550547 Everybodys All ...
Everybodys All American's picture

In the crash of 2007/2008 it was obvious to me to short financials because of sub prime. I'm wondering if there is anything that obvious this time in your estimation.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 20:25 | 3552386 klockwerks
klockwerks's picture

Yen, what size coinage? Going to pick up a monster box wed and thought I would buy some gold coins, size?

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 23:13 | 3550701 Yen Cross
Yen Cross's picture

      You're a smart person. Who's the winner when everyone is playing the same game?

   He with the most gold?

 

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:09 | 3550412 TeamDepends
TeamDepends's picture

Clearly, it was when we attempted to adopt the metric system when it all went stinky....

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:22 | 3550447 RaceToTheBottom
RaceToTheBottom's picture

It was the failure to adopt the metric system that caused the US to spirol into the present position directly above the toilett bowl.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 07:33 | 3551077 cynicalskeptic
cynicalskeptic's picture

The US shut itself out of a good amount of International Trade by NOT adopting the metric system.  While most of the world transitioned to the metric system and all that entils - Electrical standards, mechanical one s and all else, the US clung to English measurements.  The astounding growth in the developing world was fueled by goods bought elsewhere to metric standards.  The US has finally caught on - albeit on a less visible scale.  Anyone working on cars hasd had to deal with metric fasterners for decades - too many parts are made overseas or FOr overseas.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:23 | 3550611 infinity8
infinity8's picture

+1 - that's hilarious on many levels.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 23:57 | 3550760 Rusty Shorts
Rusty Shorts's picture

LMAO!!!, yes indeed my friend, yes indeed

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 00:16 | 3550786 Hulk
Hulk's picture

Missed Mars by 25.4 inches. Or was that 25.4 mm ??? Damn conversions...

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:15 | 3550428 Yen Cross
Yen Cross's picture

 Energy is moot. The United States can fuel itself, via the Balkin reserves. It's about money. (extraction costs)

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:19 | 3550443 lolmao500
lolmao500's picture

You're funny. At most, if you could extract enough barrels to supply the US every day consumption (you can't, not by a long shot), the Balkin Reserves would last what... 3 years at most... What ya do after that, Willis?

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:36 | 3550481 Almost Solvent
Almost Solvent's picture

40 acres and a Skittles-shitting Unicorn that pisses liquid gold?

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:00 | 3550554 IridiumRebel
IridiumRebel's picture

Bernanke Ranch! High Ho Tungsten!

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:36 | 3550484 Yen Cross
Yen Cross's picture

       First of all. I "mispelled "Balkin for Bakken.  Secondly, I''m a bit juxta-posted. 

   Did you even know that I mistakenly said balken? (without the I)?

   What is 120% of 140%?

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:50 | 3550521 DoChenRollingBearing
DoChenRollingBearing's picture

168%

Balkanz, bitchez!

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:02 | 3550558 Yen Cross
Yen Cross's picture

 Well done. Thanks Don.

  Gotta love reverse engineering.  ;-)

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 23:20 | 3550709 Yen Cross
Yen Cross's picture

    Based on my (un-updated) original post you're correct. 

  Bakken reserves/  http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/30/usa-energy-bakken-idUSL2N0DH26...

     Name calling is childish.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:15 | 3550430 lolmao500
lolmao500's picture

But but but! Dollar index is at multi years high! That must mean that the US dollar is number ONE! What do you mean the index only means what it's worth compared to other currencies and not what the purchasing power really is?? Impossibru!

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:18 | 3550441 Yen Cross
Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:37 | 3550485 OutLookingIn
OutLookingIn's picture

BDI all time high @ 11,771.00 points May 21, 2008

Low 61/2 months later @ 666.00 points December 04, 2008

All time record low @ 648.00 points February 06, 2012

6 month dive followed by a 2 year bounce, then a 1 year bounce and trading flat since.

On the weekly chart the BDI has not even touched it's 200 DMA since the crash of 08! 

This is NO recovery. Ongoing depression, about to get much worse.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:40 | 3550491 Yen Cross
Yen Cross's picture

 I would friend you. OOps no CIA snooping account. +1

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:48 | 3550515 OutLookingIn
OutLookingIn's picture

lol

Look at a 5 year chart of the BDI. Picture perfect 6 month dive, 2 year bounce, followed by a 1 year bounce and flat now, for over this past year.  

Kinda like a volleyball, big bounce, smaller bounce, then rolling along the ground! Until the ball stops rolling. Soon!  

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:33 | 3550624 Element
Element's picture

I've seen it many times but it's frightening, activity just bled-out, we're almost looking at an economic coma patient today.

This is an ex-parrot.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 00:31 | 3550798 Yen Cross
Yen Cross's picture

 What is a yard Element?

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 07:16 | 3551061 Room 101
Room 101's picture

No, the economy isn't dead. It's pining for the fjords. 

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:52 | 3550528 DoChenRollingBearing
DoChenRollingBearing's picture

And yet they will not lower our shipping rates from Asia to Callao.  Less than containerloads, but still...

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:04 | 3550569 OutLookingIn
OutLookingIn's picture

Ocean freight rates were below the level to cover basic operating costs. Mainly thanks to higher bunker fuel.

So, effective April 01, 2013 OOCL along with Maersk, followed by Haphag-Lloyd raised their twenty foot container (TEU) rates by $200.00 to $500.00 each, depending on destination.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:36 | 3550637 DoChenRollingBearing
DoChenRollingBearing's picture

Wow, the bastids.  

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 15:59 | 3551958 mt paul
mt paul's picture

buy the dip...

 

bought a new kayak ..

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:25 | 3550449 geewhiz190
geewhiz190's picture

kinda dumb-you can buy more of just aout every commodity there is now with the same dollar than you could have 2-3 years ago.  on the retail side, tvs, clothing even food in many cases are lower in dollar terms.  despite   4 years of creating dollars out of thin air the currency is worth more now on a trade weighted basis than in 2008. so what happens when the fed starts to slow the flow?  could be at a major inflection point on a longer term basis

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:44 | 3550504 filament
filament's picture

I especially love the 4 lb bags of sugar and the 114 ounce "gallons".  Or the 3.6 quart Ice cream containers. etc.etc.etc.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:25 | 3550455 OutLookingIn
OutLookingIn's picture

ONLY WAY OUT -

BITE THE BULLET

1/ Dismantle the fed 2/ Back dollar with gold 3/ Reduce debt until in a surplus position. Two generations.

Will the public go for it? NOT A HOPE IN HELL! Welcome to the "new normal."

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:05 | 3550573 lolmao500
lolmao500's picture

Only way out : Bernanke and his worshippers bite the bullet.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:10 | 3550588 OutLookingIn
OutLookingIn's picture

lol

Bullet in mouth injected through back of head!

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:14 | 3550594 lolmao500
lolmao500's picture

That's what I was thinking.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 23:25 | 3550719 Yen Cross
Yen Cross's picture

     I was thinking { Al Jazeera}. Junior I sent you some statistics.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:31 | 3550473 tarsubil
tarsubil's picture

I didn't go because all women are God's children but my brother went to a strip club and said he got change in 2 dollar bills as the 2 dollar bill is the new 1 dollar bill in strip clubs. 100% inflation.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:38 | 3550483 freewolf7
freewolf7's picture

I have a brother who went to a strip club, too.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:43 | 3550499 tarsubil
tarsubil's picture

He bought me a $19 bottle of Allagash Curieux (drinking it right now) so I don't judge.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:07 | 3550581 freewolf7
freewolf7's picture

My brother said he got drunk after having seven beers and five shots of Cuervo Gold, from a waitress who reminded him of his eighth grade Math teacher. He said she was hot.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:57 | 3550544 FeralSerf
FeralSerf's picture

God probably needs someone to watch his children.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:32 | 3550474 They trynna cat...
They trynna catch me ridin dirty's picture

A rapidly weakening dollar?  You know what that means.

American exports dominate = EPIC GROWTH

Only thing to do now is sit back and watch the economy take off like a rocket.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:57 | 3550651 Element
Element's picture

Only if there is sustained prior real investment.

HFT micro-second slices of liquidity is not investment. Picture this, a 3-year development and certification program needs to occur, but with HFTs experimenting with bids on a daily basis (a million times per). I see IPOs are really setting for new levels of activity - not.

The economy will not take off like a rocket if highly levered, or if the banks are trading insolvent and Govt near defaulting, and taxes and spending thus a major issue. The economy will instead drag its sorry ass around for another 10 years - if all goes better than is reasonable. Maybe if energy were cheap and abundant you could get the economy and small business to look interested in a sudden aggregate demand upturn. But QE and Keynesianism is not doing it.

If the USD falls others will print.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:38 | 3550487 Yen Cross
Yen Cross's picture

 I realize the earth spins Gentlemen. Money doesn't!

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:46 | 3550508 JustObserving
JustObserving's picture

All the inflation numbers are fudged.  Real US inflation is at least 3% higher than the official number.  This massaged inflation has the beneficial effect of increasing the GDP.  But the dollar has shrunk a lot more than the officially acknowledged shrinkage.  One of the tricks used by the US BLS is hedonic adjustments.

The US uses hedonic adjustments to its Consumer Price Index (CPI) and with you can massage data to produce whatever outcome you desire. For example, if computer speeds increase 50% a year, and the computer price stays the same, the US assumes that you are getting 50% more computer for your money. So even if the sales of computers remain the same in dollar terms, the GDP portion of computers has gone by 50%, And inflation rate for computers is -33%. Such is the miracle of hedonic adjustments.

This hedonic adjustment is applied to everything produced in the US economy. If prices go up for cars by say 10%, the US can assume that 7% of that increase was caused by quality improvements and the real inflation is only 3%. From 1967 to 1999, the price of a car in the US increased by 6.42 times. But the US BLS (Bureau of Labor Statistics) reported an increase of 2.83 times. So 56% of the increase in the price of a car was hedonically adjusted away.

These adjustments are far more egregious for computers and they contribute to at least 25% of the growth of the GDP. As a rule of thumb, US inflation is understated by about 4%. So US growth is overstated by 4%. So instead of 0.4% growth in the last quarter of 2012, the economy was shrinking at 3.6%.

If you correct the US economy for these adjustments over the last 10 years, US GDP is only about $10 trillion instead of the conventionally assumed $15.5 trillion now. And the economy is now in recession, shrinking instead of growing at rates that makes Europe envious of the miracle of US growth. In July, USA GDP will grow by $500 billion because $500 billion of intangibles will be added to the US GDP.

There are damned lies, statistics and statistics generated by the US BLS. But everyone seems to report US economic numbers as if they were gospel. The truth is so hideous that it must be protected by a phalanx of adjustments.

 

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 07:38 | 3551081 cynicalskeptic
cynicalskeptic's picture

Politicians learned from Carter's experience.  No point in being honest with US voters.  Easier to lie to them.   GDP, Inflation and Unemployment are all bogus.  

REAL unemployment - by 1980 standards is 24% - past 1932's peak.  The only reason you're not seeing bread lines is the massive spending on unemployment, food stamps and all else by government.  But even with all that you're seeing food banks running out and places giving free meals having long lines.   It's bad but a lot harder to see these days.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 12:19 | 3551470 Clycntct
Clycntct's picture

Nice Job. Thanik you.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 21:45 | 3550509 deerhunter
deerhunter's picture

3 boxes 50rd 115gr FMJ  9mm's 13.97 a box.  I think I just scored some PB at the local Walmart.  She said they came in this morning,,,, 50 boxes,,, 3 box max,  there were 4 boxes left when I left the store at 1PM today.  I feel better.  Stack,  lock,  load.  Not ever required to be in that order either.  Great weekend all. 

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:04 | 3550570 lolmao500
lolmao500's picture

Unintended consequences...

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4378271,00.html

Syria: Thousands of rebel fighters defect to al-Qaeda

Well-resourced Jabhat al-Nusra, Islamist group linked to al-Qaeda, lures thousands of rebel fighters away. Brigade commanders: 'Fighters feel pride, want to be martyrs'

Ooooooooops.

And China is kicking it up a notch...

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2013/05/10/2013051000930.ht...

China, Japan in War of Words Over Okinawa

Japan is incensed by an article in China's state-run People's Daily claiming Okinawa and its connected island chain rightly belong to China.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:17 | 3550598 freewolf7
freewolf7's picture

'Fighters feel pride, want to be martyrs.'

No leverage with a guy ain't afraid to die.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:22 | 3550607 lolmao500
lolmao500's picture

Banksters can't understand that...

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 07:57 | 3551092 Diogenes
Diogenes's picture

Muslims ready to die for Islam. Americans ready to kill them for the hell of it.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:06 | 3550576 Yen Cross
Yen Cross's picture

       I have enough ammo.  Cheap fillings and scrap metal please.s/ sarc

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:09 | 3550587 Gyoza Mimi
Gyoza Mimi's picture

Someone made a discovery of that thing called "inflation". I cannot imagine the joy he'd experience one he finds out how much people earn today vs. 1960.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 07:46 | 3551085 cynicalskeptic
cynicalskeptic's picture

My father was making $6000 a year in 1948 when he got married.  My grandparents bought a house for $12,000 the next year.  My parents bought the same house for $28,000 in 1968, not quite 20 years later.  I was high salary for my engineering degree in 1978 at $21,000 - that'd be almost three times higher today (you couldn't hire a receptionist for that today).  And that crap house that was $12,000 in 1948 sold for well over $500,000 fifty five years later.  Looking only at the dollar figures you'd thingk everyine has gotten really rich.... when the reality is people's buying power has been dropping for 30-40 years.

Used to be that you were doing really well if earning 10 times your age.   Now, it's ok but not outstanding. 

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:19 | 3550605 Peter Pan
Peter Pan's picture

The quantity of dollars being produced has far outpaced the fall in value but the real problem is that the distribution of those additional dollars has been increasingly going to the top end. The problem for the little people is made even worse bythe fact tht Ben pas them nothing for thir meagre savings.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 22:53 | 3550664 ISEEIT
ISEEIT's picture

Oh all this silly fringe blog crap is like sooo old.

Everything is fine.

Relax.

It won't hurt.

FORWARD!!

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 23:13 | 3550699 tradewithdave
tradewithdave's picture

...but the silver dollars value as a material for stuffing sandbags is stronger than oak... Jerry Maguire oak. 

 

http://tradewithdave.com/?p=16559

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 23:13 | 3550700 kareninca
kareninca's picture

I went through the Taco Bell drive through today here in Silicon Valley.  The person working the window was a slim, very attractive, well-spoken white woman in her mid-fifties.  That was f***ing terrifying.  Somehow I bet her part-time eight dollars per hour aren't going very far.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 23:23 | 3550714 Yen Cross
Yen Cross's picture

 BLS-U-6 Statistics.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 13:46 | 3551652 RockyRacoon
RockyRacoon's picture

And she had abilities that put 3 fully tattooed twenty-somethings out of work.

Work ethic is going to become the new job applicant's friend.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 23:23 | 3550717 Stuck on Zero
Stuck on Zero's picture

Your dollar may be worth a lot less but because you earn so much more today you are up there in the rich tax brackets.  That should make you feel good.

 

 

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 23:37 | 3550726 Aquarius
Aquarius's picture

There is only one issue to embrace and that is survival; for survival hold Gold (and Silver) hard (physical), a food supply and protection. The 

 

collapse is near.

 

Given:

 

1. All politicians, bankers, bureaucrats and Economists that make up "leadership" lie, a priori, and always for their own benefit - always have - 

 

it is the nature of politics. The lie is the nature of ghouls: Verbewarp

 

2. All Fiat currencies fail due to manipulation, theft and agenda by those in control: Public Domain.

 

3. Freedom is not granted by "leadership". Freedom is the direct effect of action by those who would be free: An unknown slave.

 

4. Collectives are statist and the enemy of man: Verbewarp

 

5. Terrorism is purely political action for political advantage: Pallas Athena

 

6. Militants are those murdered by politicians: MSM

 

 

 

7. "So long as the people do not care to exercise their freedom, those who wish to tyrannize will do so; for tyrants are active and ardent, and 

 

will devote themselves in the name of any number of gods, religious and otherwise, to put shackles upon sleeping men" : Voltaire. 

 

8. "Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.": Albert Einstein 

 

9.The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men: Plato 

 

10. Ideology is the realm of the Dead: Pallas Athena 

 

Ho hum

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 07:25 | 3551067 Room 101
Room 101's picture

The advantage of end of the world prophecies have is that given a long enough time horizon, they'll be proven right.  The problem is predicting that time horizon.

Collapse IS near: the sun will go supernova in a few billion years which is a mere few moments in the life of the universe. 

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 00:03 | 3550770 Manipuflation
Manipuflation's picture

Oops!  Well, knock me over with a feather.  Again.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 00:12 | 3550778 adr
adr's picture

A dollar may not buy as much as it used to, but an EBT card sure buys a hell of a lot more.

Why am I working a real job instead of a minimum wage cake walk?

I could save $480 a month on health insurance
$150 a month on utilities
$100 on TV and internet, online school for the kid
$60 for a cell phone
Get at least $200 towards food
Probably get to rent my house for $250 a month, low income subsidized, saves me $900 a month.

There's about $20 grand in savings right there. The great thing is I can make $20k and still keep all the benefits. All that is fun money since I'll pay no taxes and all the other stuff is covered.

THANKS OBAMA AND BEN!!!!!

And they wonder why unemployment is falling. Why work when you can have far more by not working.

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 00:27 | 3550794 OutLookingIn
OutLookingIn's picture

Precisely why Obammy got back in. All the 'lunch for nothing' crowd voting for the goodies. Only its your lunch they got, along with a good portion of your wages in the form of income tax. Aint life great!

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!