Now It's Britain's Turn To Choose

Tyler Durden's picture

From Mark Grant, author of Out Of The Box

Now Britan Will Choose And Hopefully Choose Wisely

“An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile—hoping it will eat him last.”


        -Winston Churchill

Next week the House of Commons is going to vote on whether to stay in the European Union. It will not be an up and down vote on the subject but it will carry the same weight. The moment has finally arrived; at least for the politicians, though not for the citizens yet. I would like to take a moment and remind Mr. Cameron of Mr. Churchill's famous quote; noted above.

Britain may have been an equal partner in the European Union at inception but now they are a vastly minimized member of the clan. The Brits congratulate themselves that they avoided a number of problems by keeping their own currency. I say to my cousins, "Don't be in such a hurry to pat yourselves on the back." The simple truth is the England should never have joined the European Union at all. It was a great mistake that they now pay for not just with their currency but with an outside group trying and somewhat succeeding in running their country. Regulation by regulation, directive by directive; the Germans gain control.

“If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”


       -Winston Churchill

I am not impolite but neither will I ignore the truth and dance around it in the name of proper European etiquette. I have been told, more than once, that it is not socially acceptable to mention the German past or what they are trying to do in the present. Yes, well, I am a tougher boy than that.

We do not even need to get to motivation. It is not necessary to undertake the tricky subject of just what the Germans are trying to accomplish. We can just remain on the surface and avoid that discussion. The simple truth is, for whatever reasons, that the Germans are totally in control of the European Union. Even France, once a partner, has been thrust aside. There are the Germans and then there is everyone else. The ball is called in Berlin and Brussels is just a front for the ambitions of the Germans and to think anything else is a colossal mistake.

If England does not wake up and recognize what is happening then it will be Neville Chamberlin all over again. Appeasement is never a good answer and today no war is threatened just financial domination. Over time, if Britain remains in the European Union, they will get pushed down into the mud, lose their ability to govern themselves, watch as their financial institutions get trampled by Frankfurt. The Germans will force them into a space presently occupied by Greece, Slovenia and Cyprus. Retribution for two World Wars will finally be won in Berlin.

In Europe today there are no tanks rumbling through the countryside. There are no bullets being fired across anyone's boundaries. What there is, however, is a war of domination and control being fought with money and the German's are winning the battle.

I will go further; there is no longer a European Union. The concept now exists just in name only. There is a German Reich and a bunch of appeased nations that cling to it. Money and trade are both the carrots and the sticks and Berlin uses both side of this coin effectively. It is a very clever ploy; Germany prospers as their neighbors suffer and the capital of a Continent is used to prop up the ambitions and lifestyle of a single nation.

Next week the British will decide for themselves as is their current right. However, my friends, if you decide incorrectly you may no longer be granted the right to make such a decision again as Brussels declares your right to decide "Verboten" sometime in the future. The directive may come from Belgium but the policy will be formulated in Berlin. Choose wisely now while you are still allowed to choose.

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xtop23's picture

If they leave the EU they're in for rough times.

If they stay in the EU they're in for nightmarish times.

Choose wisely Brits.

Buckaroo Banzai's picture

"More than at any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly." -- Woody Allen

francis_sawyer's picture

"If England does not wake up and recognize what is happening then it will be Neville Chamberlin all over again. Appeasement is never a good answer and today no war is threatened just financial domination."


Couldn't agree more [metaphorically]

Just remember, per the new policy, to PLAY NICE people [with your comments below]...

giggler123's picture

On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero so who cares anyway?  I say quick is best, last thing one wants when committing suicide is failed attempts...

mkkby's picture

I fail to see how being a member of the EU is anything like the famous appeasement.  Can't they just remain a member and quit any time they find it inconvenient?  This just seems like the writer is hyperventilating.

Now for some history.  The appeasement wasn't a bad strategy for a variety of reasons. 

1 - You don't fight a war until/unless you are prepared.  This is basic tsun tsu.  So appeasement bought critical time to prepare. 

2 - During the appeasement, the enemy was fighting wars with others, thus weakening itself.  The longer the UK waited, the stronger they got and the weaker Germany got.  Churchill's quote is a lie.  It is not like feeding an alligator.  It is like watching insects bite the alligator.

Ghordius's picture

hyperventilating indeed

BigJim's picture

Mark Grant appears not to understand the main problem for Greece, Cyprus, Slovenia, et al - they're dependent on German largesse (and its de facto control of the ECB's  print purse strings) if 'they' want to stay in the euro-zone.

Britain's not in the EZ; therefore, Germany cannot force austerity on them.

Yes, Britain's fucked, but not because of the big bad Bosch. Britain's fucked because its polity was hijacked by the banksters long ago, and will continue to be irrespective of EU membership, and because its electorate are socialist sheep who think it's possible for everyone to consume value by picking each other's pockets.

tsouth's picture

Appeasement was dreadful, Germany was re-arming as fast as possible, Britain and France were not, so it was Germany who gained precious time by appeasement not the allies. France could have crushed Germany when hitler occupied the rhineland but they neglected to, granting hitler more respect from his generals for his political judgement.

During appeasement Germany wasn't fighting wars with others (the Luftwaffe was gaining extremely valuable experience in the Spanish civili war however...) that harmed Germany itself. Their powers grew rapidly in the mid to late 30s.

Britain and France couldn't believe they were already facing a repeat of the horrific Great War that scarred the entire continent with catastrophic losses of entire generations of young men- appeasement was not an evil strategy therefore but it turned out to be a wrong one.

GaryNeville's picture

Farage will save us!!



: )


Tango in the Blight's picture

@Mark Grant:

Godwin's Law, you lose!

Dingleberry's picture

So tell me enlightened I supposed to feel sorry or concerned for Britain? Seeing how they are the spawn of all things financially catastrophic? For the entire world!?

Everyone knows "the City" is a den of lawlessness and immorality. If is the free trade zone for fraud & deceit. They are the ones that brought you AIG, Blythe and her shit, derivative scams, LBME, etc. etc. etc.

Fuck them.

At least the Germans produce shit the world wants to buy instead of coming up with innovative ways to steal from humanity.

Fuck them all.

vic and blood's picture

By ganging up on Germany with other corrupt states, the British have postponed this reckoning for over a hundred years. Even after losing over 30% of territory, including African Colonies and the Eastern Provinces, Germany has made a comeback and is ready to assume the natural role of leader of Europe. As always, Germany dutifully stands as a bulwark against Russian aggression. Screw the stinking British. Go Germany!

By the way, the vaunted British Navy was unable to defeat the German Navy at Jutland. The British never tried to directly take on the German Navy, again.

Lednbrass's picture

Ahh forget it, there is very little that can be said on any topic that somebody won't find offensive.

So long, and thanks for all the fish

Sandmann's picture

The British never tried to directly take on the German Navy, again.


The Kriegsmarine never put to sea again except to scuttle itself at Scapa Flow

tsouth's picture

Idiot, the Germans never put to sea again and became a fleet in being, merely tying down the royal navy's resources in blockade. Jutland was a small tactical victory for Germany as they were fleeing for home as they sunk slightly more ships than they lost. Hard to take on a navy that stays in port.

Dugald's picture

The British never tried to directly take on the German Navy, again.

What was there left to take on?????? 

Inthemix96's picture

Sorry Tyler, I live here, and am an avid fan of news from here to the world over, thats how I found ZH.

Nothing of the sort will happen, they dont listen to us plebs, same as your lot could give two fucks about you lot.

We stay in the EU, wether you or I like it.

God damn mother fucking thieving peodophile bastards.

BoNeSxxx's picture

Yep... just another puppet show for the huddled masses.

kliguy38's picture

urumphhh.......urumphh.....chin up lad.....the Queen Mother knows best for you......just look at her own family.....that narrow eyed floppy eared decadent pile of shit Charles is what she is leaving you.......cheeryO......carry on

francis_sawyer's picture

Umm... I think those remarks qualify as 'disparaging'... I might have to report everybody to the THOUGHT CRIME COMMITTEE...

Pure Evil's picture

Yep, its only a matter of time before we all turn each other in for the express purpose of saving our own skins.

Does anyone know the number to DHS.

Buckaroo Banzai's picture

Really? It's the Germans we're going to blame for what the EU has become? Just because the Germans have figured out how to be the least-worst off under this ridiculous regime doesn't mean they are responsible for the underlying problems.

The Germans are at the geographic center of Europe, which puts them in a uniquely advantaged physical position. Plus, they are really good at running things in general. The fear of the Germans taking over Europe led directly to WW1 and WW2. The EU was created to keep the Germans down by peaceful means, but damned if they didn't stay down a third time either.

There is a giant spiritual and moral vacuum in Europe, and has been for over a century now. That's the real problem.

bank guy in Brussels's picture

Germans are 'running things' because they and the EU have become a proxy for the bankster class ... as ZeroHedge has pointed out, no bank has sold more 'weapons of financial mass destruction' derivatives than Deutsche Bank, north of 75 trillion. The EU financial house of cards centres on German banks, insurers and pension funds.

But the EU is such a flimsy mechanism really, that the core problem should be obvious ... it is not so much the 'Germans running things' (tho they are certainly getting brutal, selfish, cruel and nasty) ...

It is rather the traitors and quislings in other EU countries, who betray their own people, to let the Germans - EU - bankster Troika run things. (Much like the USA is run by fascist families who long ago sold out the American people.)

It is, for example, the traitorous government in Greece, who tragically allow Greek children to go hungry, begging other schoolchildren for food on schoolday mornings ... while taxes collected go to pay the Troika and banks and bondholders

As people in Europe escalate their demonstrating and rioting, the better focus of anger and hatred would be, not 'the Germans' (who yet do deserve scorn), but rather their own quisling governments, in Cyprus, Greece, Spain, Portugal (and Ireland too) ... their own traitorously corrupt leaders who are submitting to the EU - Troika extortions and mauling of their populations

EU leaders in the Mediterranean who serve the EU, banks, the Troika and the Germans, while local children beg their schoolmates for food, should ponder the December 1989 death of Romania's Nicolae and Elena Ceausescu in a hail of executioners' bullets. Or the similar fate of Vidkun Quisling himself before a Norwegian firing squad in April 1946.

Fuh Querada's picture

+100 All very true. Check out how much of the EU "loans" end up in the bank accounts of the political parties in the PIIGS. You can be certain that the political classes are offered "inducements" to lick the Troika's balls and "disincentives" to act contrarily, You have to ask - why otherwise is Greece still in the EU?
The DB derivatives book explains every detail of EU fiscal and monetary "policy" and cannot be emphasized enough.

Acet's picture

It's the fatal flaw of the modern Briton to allways blame it on the foreigners. This is why after almost two centuries of growth and prosperity, the UK has spend the last 50 rotting and decaying from the inside.

There is a corrupt, calcified social system in the UK that keeps the reins of power and wealth in the hands of a certain inept but well-connected elite (locals, not foreigners) and yet the typical British plebe just picks up the cues from a press owned by a very small number of members of the elite and rages against the EU, all the while getting shafted by their own countrymen.


Jack Burton's picture

I agree. The British Press, and I read it daily, IS a huge problem. They are masters of brainwashing and diversion. They have turned Brits into either ignorant twats or mind altered supporters of the establishment.

GCT's picture

Kinda sorta like the media here in the USA Jack!  I read the British press as well. 

JimmyRainbow's picture

everyone outside Deutsche Bank sees it as a german instrument

everyone inside Deutsche Bank knows that all memos are approved by The City

(for investment/wholesale, not retail)

FeralSerf's picture

The German banker/industrialists, like their Goldman Sachs cousins, are very good at bribery. When the average lying, stealing, cheating Greek, Italian, Spanish, etc. politician is offered the keys to the new BMW in exchange for selling out his countrymen, he does what comes naturally. He also has been assured that when it comes time to retire from public "service" he will have appropriate foreign digs so that he need not face the ire or firing squad of his fellow citizens.

American, north and south, and British politicians are no different.

klockwerks's picture

The people in Greece elected who they wanted and as par for the course, they took advantage of the power. The people elected the person who promised them more free stuff and the leaders took advantage of the sheeple stupidty. Looks to me like there is blame on all sides.

Ghordius's picture

did a "brutal, selfish, cruel and nasty" German bite you? Is it infectious?

the starving Greek schoolchildren story is beneath you, btw

Balanced Integer's picture

Indeed. The European Union was always going to revolve around an axis of Berlin and Paris. The axis became a tug-of-war, and damned if the Germans aren't ending up with the most rope. You can;t blame the Germans for playing the game and winning.

That said, the EU is a flawed project at best. It needs to be flushed.

DogOfSinope's picture

Nope. WWI started because Austria "annected" (read: forcefuly occupied) Bosnia and then attacked Serbia on false accusation of it being involved in the killing of Bosnia occupator crown prince Ferdinand (who would expect that?). Austrians were humiliated by small Serbia on the battlefield two times until end of 1915 (they are still a bit of a "fuck you!" nation...), when Germany attacked Serbia, too.

WWII started when Germany attacked Poland on fabricated grounds.

Another proof of the new German hegemony: trying to rewrite history!

So, Germans - we know you and we watch you! Next time we won't split you in two but in 50 states. Think about it.

FeralSerf's picture

WWI started because of the alliances between Austria and Germany and between France and Russia. Germany had no possibility of a military success over France/Russia unless she attacked France swiftly before the Russians could mobilize. Germany's choice was either attack (via Belgium, the only way to France) or start learning French and Russian.

The assassination of Archduke Ferdinand was merely the (convenient Zionist) spark. The gun was already locked and loaded by these alliances.

DogOfSinope's picture

Correct, though I'm not sure what Zionist had t do with it.
Also, the navy arms race between UK and Germany had nothing to do with it, right? ;-)

FeralSerf's picture

The First World War

By William G. Simpson

"But lest this seem too cloak-and-daggerish, and too full of mere suggestion and suspicion, let me now proceed to set down known facts.

Everything is ready. The U.S., with the Federal Reserve firmly fastened upon it, has been yoked for the decisive part it is to play. And Europe itself, beneath its surface, is a fierce welter of fears and hates and murderous passions. The long-standing conspiracy between France and Russia for the destruction of Germany has done its work: they know each other.237 It has long been recognized that the Balkans are “the powder keg of Europe.” Serbia in particular is the readied percussion cap, needing only to be struck to set off an earth-rocking explosion. And plans have been laid to have it struck. In 1912, the Revue internationale des societes secretes (i.e., The International Review of Secret Societies) published a few prophetic words by a high Swiss Freemason in regard to Franz Ferdinand, heir to the throne of Austria, to which Serbia was subject: “He is a remarkable man; it is a pity that he is condemned, he will die on the steps of his throne.” 238 Within two years the Archduke and his wife were assassinated by several Serbian Freemasons. The fatal shots were fired by one Princip, a Jew.239 This assassination “served as the spark which lit the conflagration in Europe.” 240

Professor Fay reviews the shorthand record of the trial of the young assassins in November 1914, which he declared “a fascinating human document” and pronounced “full and fair.” 241 One of them testified that “the Freemasons had already condemned to death the heir to the throne two years ago,” and again, “In Freemasonry it is permitted to kill.” 242 He describes the “Black Hand” terrorist organization for achieving the freedom of Serbia. Machinery was already installed by which Freemasons, plotting in Belgrade, under secret orders from unindentified Masons yet higher up in Vienna (or for that matter, in Paris or St. Petersburg) could step in and use the Serbian feud with Austria to start a world war for ends of their own.

He recounts the formation of the conspiracy. But the plot was actually hatched in France, at Toulouse, where three of the terrorists met in January 1914. Here one of them “came into direct touch with various Russian revolutionists, including Trotsky.” 243 The purpose in going to France was—it would seem manifest—to meet the men “higher up” who would decide who was to be killed, and when and where, and who would provide the necessary money and arms.

 What I have been implying is that I believe the Jews started the war. And after the evidence that I have already submitted, perhaps this will not strike my readers as too farfetched. But I will add that Henry Ford put it on record that some “very prominent” Jews insisted, in conversation with him, that it was their own people who contrived the war, precipitated it, and so controlled it that it would stop only when they wanted it stopped."



Sandmann's picture

WW1 started because the British joined an alliance whereas they had been a free agent until the Liberals were elected in 1906

schatzi's picture

Lulz, let me guess: a Serbian (or at least some roots) with a massive chip on the shoulder. Tell me how you are coming to terms with your country's very recent history of attempted genocide on its much smaller and weaker neighbours, yet ended up getting kicked in the backside and landing hard on your arse. Sadly Serbia is too small to even be split in two.

DogOfSinope's picture

Lulz, let me guess: German skinhead with an "Mein Kampf" copy under pillow?
The only genocide ever committed in Balkans was committed by Germans - twice. No one there buys your propaganda anymore.
Maybe Serbia is small, but still gave a finger to your Reich dream twice. And, will do it again.

koperniuk666's picture


Drivel - The EU was NOT created to keep the germans down by peaceful means 

It is a TRADING BLOCK> nothing to do with wars or peace or germans. dont repeat EU propaganda. READ Article 2

and 'geographic center' is very subjective and irrelevant anyway

The Union shall set itself the following objectives:



to promote economic and social progress and a high level of employment and to achieve balanced and sustainable development, in particular through the creation of an area without internal frontiers, through the strengthening of economic and social cohesion and through the establishment of economic and monetary union, ultimately including a single currency in accordance with the provisions of this Treaty,



to assert its identity on the international scene, in particular through the implementation of a common foreign and security policy including the progressive framing of a common defence policy, which might lead to a common defence, in accordance with the provisions of Article 17,



to strengthen the protection of the rights and interests of the nationals of its Member States through the introduction of a citizenship of the Union,



to maintain and develop the Union as an area of freedom, security and justice, in which the free movement of persons is assured in conjunction with appropriate measures with respect to external border controls, asylum, immigration and the prevention and combating of crime,



to maintain in full the acquis communautaire and build on it with a view to considering to what extent the policies and forms of cooperation introduced by this Treaty may need to be revised with the aim of ensuring the effectiveness of the mechanisms and the institutions of the Community.

tsouth's picture

Got to agree with buckaroo, the eu was designed to hold the deutschys in check. The French were terrified of ze Germans and ze Germans are terrified of themselves (what they're capable of..). No-one likes the Brits because they can't get across that pesky stretch of water.

Fíréan's picture

The British royal family are of German descent, didn't you know. " The Windsors were of House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, and the Mountbatton from the Battenberg family.

Ghordius's picture

German descent? Ain't nearly half of many US State's white's of it?

Sandmann's picture

So is the Belgian Monarchy

Dyhana's picture

Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way
The time is gone, the song is over,
Thought I'd something more to say.  PINK FLOYD

Hulk's picture

Cold hearted orb that rules the night,
removes the colours from our sight.
Red is grey, and yellow, white,
but we decide which is right,
and which is an illusion.

Damn, those bands from the 60's and 70's had a little Nostradamus in them...

Dyhana's picture

Mind expanding drugs....