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Who Is The Highest Paid Public Employee In Your State?

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Think the best paid public servant in your state is some tax-collecting bureaucrat with a commission-based comp structure, or some administrative apparatchik? Think again. As the following infographic from Deadspin shows, in 41 US states, the highest-paid public employee is either the football, basketball or hockey coach at the local state school. Whick takes cares of the "Circuses" part. For now, at least, public sector bakers did not make the list...

But fear not: your taxes don't pay for these key actors in the daily lineup of "bread and circuses" - from Deadspin: "The bulk of this coaching money—especially at the big football schools—is paid out of the revenue that the teams generate."

What are the considerations?

  1. Coaches don't generate revenue on their own; you could make the exact same case for the student-athletes who actually play the game and score the points and fracture their legs.
  2. It can be tough to attribute this revenue directly to the performance of the head coach. In 2011-2012, Mack Brown was paid $5 million to lead a mediocre 8-5 Texas team to the Holiday Bowl. The team still generated $103.8 million in revenue, the most in college football. You don't have to pay someone $5 million to make college football profitable in Texas.
  3. This revenue rarely makes its way back to the general funds of these universities. Looking at data from 2011-2012, athletic departments at 99 major schools lost an average of $5 million once you take out revenue generated from "student fees" and "university subsidies." If you take out "contributions and donations"—some of which might have gone to the universities had they not been lavished on the athletic departments—this drops to an average loss of $17 million, with just one school (Army) in the black. All this football/basketball revenue is sucked up by coach and AD salaries, by administrative and facility costs, and by the athletic department's non-revenue generating sports; it's not like it's going to microscopes and Bunsen burners.

So what constitutes total salary, and can taxpayers be on the hook after all? Apparently, yes.

Most of these databases include only the coaches' base salaries, which are drawn directly from the state fund. This is how you could be led to believe that Virginia's offensive coordinator earns more than its head coach.

 

Far exceeding these base salaries is the "additional compensation" that almost all of these coaches receive, which is tied to media appearances, apparel contracts, and fundraising. While this compensation does not come directly from the state fund it is guaranteed in the coaches' contracts; if revenue falls short, the school—and thus the state—is on the hook to cover the difference. Plus, even it doesn't come directly from taxpayers, this compensation is still problematic for all the reasons listed above.

 

Beyond salary and additional compensation, coaches earn money from bonus incentives tied primarily to the team's performance. This analysis ignored those bonuses and focused on guaranteed money, as it's impossible to guess at whether a coach will hit his benchmarks. And we're not even touching the ridiculous amounts of money coaches can get if they're fired before their contract ends.

Paying millions to "mediocre" state coaches: not a bad gig if one can get it.

One wonders - how long until Wall Street starts pitching football coach total return swaps and football victory collateralized structured products? And when will these subsequently become securitized, as footballs and jockstraps become quality eligible collateral to extract some more value out of yet another source of "assets"?

 

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Sun, 05/12/2013 - 16:35 | 3554102 Element
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If you've ever run a business you'd know that you ALWAYS get what you pay for, if you're lucky.

Try getting a volunteer unpaid rural fire brigade to put out a fire in a 14 story apartment.

See what happens.

The illogical shallow strawmen people are coming out with in this thread is amazing.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 17:07 | 3554183 WAMO556
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What he means is this:

Most UNION folks could care less about the corrosive effects that their UNIONS have on the general fabric of society.

If we were to have a go at the TRAITERS of this country the list would look like this:

1. BANKSTER'S - those folks who are continuously printing, fractional reserve lending, CDS, MBS's, etc... You get the point. THEY ARE TRAITERS!

2. Politicians - from federal, state and the county level, most of these folks are NO longer capable of ANY type of governance for the common weal. THEY ARE TRAITERS!

3. Corporatist's - the way that the system is made (by the bankster's through debt based money system) any and all corporations MUST get larger to succeed. Either they eat other companies, are they get eaten. The system will not allow a company to stay small and survive. Corporations bottom line is to the shareholders and no one else. By the way, corporations ARE NOT PEOPLE!!!

4. FAT CAT UNIONS - by having a monopoly on government contracts (whether at the county, state or federal level) UNIONS have made it so that a wrench turner, bag stuffer at the market or cop at the donut shop gets well paid for minimal work (do you wonder why so many cops participated in the Boston bombing and shoot out? Time and half, double time and extra pay for hazardous duty). These jobs used to be entry level where folks got them and "moved up or out". No longer!! SINCE UNIONS have made inroads into these sectors, the costs have gone up exponentially. Also, UNIONs are MONEY LAUNDERING conduits to the politicians.

5. MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX - same as unions. But WAR is BIG money and is also a money laundering conduit to the politicians.

In regards to the UNIONS, lets call a spade a spade. Why should a corporation pay some schlub here in the states 50 dollars an hour when that very same corporation can pay a Chinese/Vietnamese/Korean schlub .50 cents an hour. The only reason that there are still jobs in the USA is for the corporations to maintain a presence here. Methinks that they wouldn't do it if they could get away with it. Also, the banks need to continuously HOOVER wealth OUT of the USA into their coffers.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 17:14 | 3554192 Element
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Right!  It's the MIDDLE MEN who are the parasites.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 18:25 | 3554339 noless
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I was only following orders sir.

Still an appropriate defense? Plausible deniability and all that?

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 19:05 | 3554428 Element
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I have no clue what you're even talking about.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 17:37 | 3554215 Urban Redneck
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It's not a strawman argument.  You're creating a fallacy of composition with your 14-story apartment example.  

By the way, all politics are local, some union fucktard in Manhattan isn't screwing a volunteer company in Beaver County, PA.  

 

edit: then there's the issue of the breakdown between Fire/EMT calls, and the fact that volunteer EMTs not only have to meet identical standards, but often pay for their own continuing education...

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 19:04 | 3554425 Element
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Well, have you got any solution to even a 7 story high-rise fire?

Do you actually want to rely on amateurs turning up for that?

Do you now want to live in a high-rise with your family, given no one is responsible for making sure the alarms and sprinklers and exits all work, and extinguishers and hoses are present, functional and current? And that there's a better than even chance no one will turn up quickly? Or make serious experienced proficient efforts to extinguish it?

People who say they don't want to pay for a community fire brigade have to provide realistic, sustainable long-term answers.

Here's a hint: ideology generates massive practical day-to-day problems and solves not one of them.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 02:08 | 3555327 Urban Redneck
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Your post is full of stupid drivel, unfounded assumptions, and the two previously cited fallacies- "given no one is responsible for making sure the alarms and sprinklers and exits all work, and extinguishers and hoses are present, functional and current? And that there's a better than even chance no one will turn up quickly"

 

And as to  "realistic, sustainable long-term answers" - steal their fucking pensions and let the greedy bastards and their families starve - since that is the State's plan.

 

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 02:44 | 3555355 Element
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So basically you'll reject any sensible argument by inserting some insane brain-fart like that, and then you're off to your next cowardly worthless pap? You're the most fucked in the head commenter so far in this sorry-ass thread. Ignore the discussion just pile on a load of crap and piss off, well done. My Hero.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 05:33 | 3555453 Urban Redneck
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You haven't made a sensible argument, you've simply piled one fallacy on top of another and failed to respond to the valid criticisms I've raised.  

Just going back to your previous post -

The assertion that  "no one is responsible for making sure the alarms and sprinklers and exits all work, and extinguishers and hoses are present, functional and current?" is 1) unsubstantiated and 2) irrelevant to performance based on whether a company is paid or volunteer, unless you think members of volunteer companies can't perform safety inspections - the NFPA code book really isn't that complicated - especially compared to texts like NEC which a surprising number of (members of a an actual trade union) are intimately familiar with despite their being volunteer fire company members.

"And that there's a better than even chance no one will turn up quickly" This is function of availability and proximity - it has nothing to with whether the company is paid or volunteer.  

Going back to my point about EMT continuing education - which is controlled at the State level where unions have aggregated influence- there seems to be a propensity to schedule training and certification events primarily during normal business hours M-F, which distinctly favors union companies- even though at the level of the individual fire fighter they have to staff departments 24x7x365... so because of corrupt and self serving unions - both unionized and volunteer actual first responders are inconvenienced because of management's petty self-interest.

You really should stop digging, before you wind up in China - where the .gov cheese for corrupt civil kleptocrats is far less generous, so they have to go out and steal it themselves.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 11:41 | 3556258 Element
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Summing-up your position; I haven't made a "sensible argument", in defense of having professional firefighters, but the quintessence of your "sensible argument" is that professional firefighters are basically optional useless "parasites".

Thank you for your valuable contribution to the advancement of urban stupidity and shortsighted ideological puss-wads.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 12:44 | 3556543 Urban Redneck
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That's not the essence of my argument.  Perhaps you should go back to the beginning...

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 06:51 | 3555520 Urban Redneck
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And getting back to the 14-story example, I don't have a simple answer, not that there isn't one, but it is subset of specific cases only relevant in certain metropolitain geographies.  However, if I carried your example to its logical conclusion (of specialization) the professional company is just as SOL.  When you get into industrial facilities (regardless of geography or architecture)- such as chemical plants and oil refineries, the first responders ARE THE PROFESSIONAL EMPLOYEES OF THE FACILITY, and without proper documentation drawn up before hand, or a plant employee on sight to provide realtime guidance in the event of a fire, neither the professional, nor the volunteer, is going to be able to properly direct resources in order to mitigate risk.  

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 11:47 | 3556308 Element
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but it is subset of specific cases only relevant in certain metropolitain geographies.

Yet I haven't made, what was it, a "sensible argument"?

But seriously, good luck raising an effective dutiful and appropriately-equipped volunteer (i.e. amateur) urban fire fighting capacity that actually shows-up (for they may be busy getting all cracked-out that day and playing hide the sausage) not just within a central business district context, but almost anywhere within the sprawl, where >80% of people live. where community spirit is so strong and cohesive.

You don't live in a little European glacial valley village, where that community culture might work - mostly OK.

In reality an amateur fire fighting capability would be a dangerous farce from one fire to the next, and be quickly replaced (practical necessity trumping ideological buffoonery) by regulated professionals. Not unlike now, and the ideological counter-culture would be told to shut it and pay their contribution/share/tax (public, or private), or else to fuck-off and don't come back again.

Enjoy burning your floorboards in winter, but best be careful with naked flames.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 12:42 | 3556535 Urban Redneck
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Now your ignorance and bigotry is recorded for posterity.  I warned you to stop digging.

You are flat out berating the skills of vounteer firefighters "amateur capability" and accusing them of not even "showing up", and making up shit to cover your ignorance.

I would suggest you come of with some evidence to support the superior "capability" or "qualifications" of union firefighters for the 65% of the calls they respond to that are for medical assistance - in case you didn't get the hint above.

As for digging throught the minutae-

newsflash- (over 2/3) firefighters in the US are volunteers, the frontline of the divide is suburbia and small cities, not the exurbs or rural environs.

Extinguishing fires only account for a small percentage (<7%) of calls firefighters respond to.

In 2011, of the 1.389M calls that actually were fires, less than 500K of which were structure fires, of those less than 96K were apartment units of ANY height, and less than 99K were non-residential structures of ANY height. 

http://www.nfpa.org/categoryList.asp?categoryID=15

And yet you continue your loyal bootlicking of the parasatic public sector unions, even though if you spewed shit that stupid in front of them, they'd probably smack you upside the head or tell you to shut up themselves.

Tue, 05/14/2013 - 05:24 | 3559476 Element
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Listen up knuckle-dragger, go back to the top of this theme of crap, where it started above, where some fucking ignorant retarded dick-wad stated that teachers and Firemen, are all "parasites".

That is why this discussion is occurring.

So all the other crap you wanted to wax-on about is totally fucking irrelevant to that. It is an obviously cretinous suggestion to say that present-day communities should not have any professional teachers or firemen, just because some insane ideological fuckhead asserted they're all just parasites.

People like you are a fucking poncy dismal joke as far as I'm concerned, you don't think that wanker's assertion is just a bit off? A bit unbalanced? You don't pull him up, oh no, you fucking hypocritical coward, you instead insert your load of bullcrap directing it at the person who actually does have the guts to call-out such a fucking retarded statement and proposition. You could have informed him instead, but no, you are too much of a coward and a pissy little sycophant for any of that.

That's the sort of shallow tosser you really are Mr Urban Redneck. Have a look at yourself for a bit.

You are beyond fucked in the head at the most basic level of what really matters, as a result, everything you said was just insane crap on your part, so of course I'm not going to listen to shallow smarmy self-righteous bullshit from a spineless pissing-pot like you.

And you have zero say in telling what to think, or say, or do, here or anywhere else.   lol , you fucking Jerk.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 16:27 | 3554107 arby63
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I haven't seen an actual fire put out in 25 years; however, I have seen a lot of structures burn under heavy observation.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 16:36 | 3554133 Element
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You're right, bin the lot of them.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 19:10 | 3554197 Element
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And seven complete twats red arrowed that!

Gawd help you lot.

EDIT: make that 12, so far. What the fuck is wrong with you people? Have you all been eating mad-cow burgers? Explain yourselves, or are you all idological cowards, who don't want your shallow ignorant bullshit exposed?

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 19:19 | 3554454 nmewn
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If I may, I think you're being junked for saying a rural volunteer fire department couldn't put out a fire in a seven to fourteen story building.

There are none of those out here.

And no, it wasn't me ;-)

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 20:29 | 3554534 Element
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Ah, cheers nmewn, because here the only volunteer fire depts are rural, usually only equipped and trained to fight bushfires or in small structures.

EDIT: no that's not it either nmewn, different comment

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 20:34 | 3554633 nmewn
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Same here my man, mostly swamp fires & traffic accidents caused by drowsy drivers who can't seem to snap to attention when running over the "Watch the hell out" strips before a major highway intersection...and of course the visible light which is red (per normal)...and the signage one mile back saying they're actually approaching a major intersection, decrease speed.

Ya know, normal stuff, if your primary goal is to get where you intended to go...and not the morgue or the hospital...lol.

A silo is about as high as I've seen any man made structure around here and it would be gone before the call is placed due to distance.

I think a volunteer operation can work in cities as well, less distance. But it takes a commitment, they certainly have more "idle manpower" than out here but now we're getting into something less savory ;-)

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Edit to your edit...which one?

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 21:02 | 3554717 Element
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Less savory? Than all this crap above in the thread? LOL OK, I'll just add I can't see how a volunteer fire brigade could possibly work effectively or reliably, in a timely way, in a large city context. Looking at the replies above I shake my head at how impractical irrational and unreal so much of it is. Most people don't give a fuck about thinking about how it will work, just what their ideological knee-jerk caused them to spit out of their pie-hole. It's dismal, I laugh but it isn't funny. I wonder what the hell is going to come of people when idealism meets its limits. This is what will really happen, life will take over, and all the ideological shit they have will be out the door, completely, useless to them, and to everyone else.

What they will do then, nmewn, is what will work, and that will not be what their ideology or propaganda said.

 

EDIT: This, up to 16 ...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-12/who-highest-paid-public-employe...

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 21:24 | 3554789 Sean7k
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You might want to examine economic studies that have shown it would be cheaper to let buildings burn and replace them, than fund fire departments. Your seven story example is without value.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 23:17 | 3555080 Element
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As is your sense of phoney logic and economics, when appled to the real world.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 22:03 | 3554891 nmewn
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"What they will do then, nmewn, is what will work, and that will not be what their ideology or propaganda said."

Correct and logically followed.

Folks in the sticks just don't want to be taxed for people in cities who pay none. I pay for services for people who don't even know I do or even care that I do, it just happens...its a govermental miracle...lol...thats the ideological problem/impasse.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 23:32 | 3555119 Element
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Yeah, I get where you're coming from. After reading through the page again all I can say is it's very tempting for everyone to bathe in the warm-glow of boofheadedness (for want of a better word), it can be fun, sure, but it doesn't work when you need real answers. As always enjoyed the chat, got to get some sleep, cheers.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 01:10 | 3555287 Curiously_Crazy
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Nor me, though I can see why some would.

Having lived in a few rural towns (and by rural I mean nearest fast food or ATM 180 kms away - town populations of between 600-2000) as well as semi-rural (within 50kms of a major city) I can say that the volunteers are part of a community and will fight tooth and nail to protect those that they interact with on a daily basis.

It's not about money, it's not about getting kudos, it's about actually giving a fucking shit about where you are living and willing to donate your time for said community. Sure we might not be able to put out a 14 (or 7) story building fire but we also don't have millions of dollars of equipment; on top of that it's not even an issue when the highest building for 500kms is a 3 story Pub with hotel rooms above it. What we do have is *manpower* every farmer has firefighter unit ready to be loaded on the back of the Landcruiser or Patrol Ute and I'll be damned that if there is a problem you wouldn't have a quicker response than city crews.. (UHF CB's - everyone knows quick smart when there is a problem).

Bloody ell I need a beer.

Cheers

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 18:14 | 3554315 Professorlocknload
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Humm, a house fire down the street was in fact recently put out by a local volunteer fire dept. Must not have been a Union fire, maybe?

Oh, forgot, the more a bureaucrat is paid the better he performs. Just look at the Department of Motor Vehicles.

And Obamacare is going to be a real gem after the SEIU streamlines it.

 

s/off

 

 

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 18:49 | 3554387 flyingcaveman
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I'd be for an all volunteer police department as well.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 19:42 | 3554509 Professorlocknload
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Yeah there caveman,

 

Or maybe open the positions to public bid. Not very hard to figure out why there are thousands of applicants for every position.

But yes, in the woods I hang out in, most law dogs will tell you "I'm just here to take a report. We can't be everywhere."

Didn't SCOTUS also rule Law Enforcement wasn't obligated to "Prevent" crime? 

Big revenue in all those Seat Belt violations though, I guess. Gotta be worth $90k a year + bennies, no?

 

 

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 20:25 | 3554606 Angus McHugepenis
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In almost 50 years of life I have known 4 firefighters. Times I needed their service = ZERO in 50 years. Of those 4 guys, I recall their average time off was 8 weeks (with generous accumulated unused sick days banked). And that goes back to the 80's.

Of the 2 firefighters I knew back in the early 2000's, one ran his own cement contracting company, the other a flooring installation company. They spent far more time (at full public salary) running their side businesses than they did working in uniform. I never actually saw either of them at "work" and I used to live beside one of them.

Cops & LEOs: Actual times I've needed them in 50 years = ZERO. But they seem to want to intrude on my life every so often so they can threaten me at gun point if I don't pay them their fines. I have NEVER knowlingly had an acquaintance with a LEO. They are a breed of control freaks that keep to themselves when off duty. And it's not hard to imagine why they wouldn't want to disclose their "job" to anyone around them.

I stopped paying for these parasites 12 years ago.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 20:34 | 3554638 Element
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Fires used to be very dangerous community events and the fact that fires are now much rarer is because fire training, suppression, planning, building codes, materials used and monitoring all works.

And if it works well then downsize the fire department and cut costs.

That is rational and necessary.

But calling firemen "parasites", if you really mean that, is clearly FUCKING IDIOTIC.

Think about it.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 21:17 | 3554677 Angus McHugepenis
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I see you're one of those that thinks red/green arrows mean something here. Everything that drains my resources to pay for what you want is parasitical to ME. I have an urgent need for hookers and blow right now so you won't mind me asking you for your Visa number so I can charge it to YOUR tab?

Fires used to be very dangerous community events and the fact that fires are now much rarer is because fire training, suppression, planning, building codes, materials used and monitoring all works.

Building codes... lol... think Chinese drywall!

Quick, call somebody to save you !!

Edit: Geez, how could I forget... most firefighters (and this comes from the horses mouths) do cash, under the table work, like building decks or going so far as renovating a basement in their "spare time". All WITHOUT obtaining building permits or giving one single rat's ass about building codes or material quality. Even LEO's get in on the action but most of them are too dumb to swing a hammer unless it's on their uniform belt and they are aiming for a perp's head.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 00:44 | 3555257 Element
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Arrows weren't the concern, if I was concerned by popularity, you think I'd take a contrary view? One thing about honest views is dishonest people hate it. Person says something rational, logical, reasonable, and a flock of low-brow fools with ideological chips on their shoulders do what? I wrote about them, not about the arrows.

As for your numerous corruption anecdotes, maybe be more selective? Are you interested in remedying the debasement that's around you? Corruption is nothing to revel in, yeah it's a way of business, and for desperate fools, and you might think you're worldly to it, but you're just a target. But you don't want 'parasites' leaching-off your wallet?

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 21:39 | 3554838 Sean7k
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Go to www.marginalrevolution.com and see charts on firefighting= because they aren't fighting fires.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 16:47 | 3554140 RaceToTheBottom
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This is not a professional analysis.  but I live down the street from an old folks home.  A 2 story house with I would guess 25-30 inhabitants.  Every week, the fire truck and paramedics travel to that house daily, some time multiple times a day, with both the huge fire truck and the parapmedics.

I have never seen the ladders extended to reach the second floor.  Everything is accessible via stairs and elevators.  Sometimes while the truck waits around for the hour or two, I see alternate fire trucks running through the neighborhood going to other calls (presumably called from adjoining neighborhoods), putting strain on their system as well.

With all the advances in technology available in the last 20-30 years, why cannot they even determine that the Paramedics truck is all that is required?  this is a retirement home, for land sakes, they can guess what is wrong.  Cannot they even tell the difference between an ailing old fart and a burning building before they make the call?

 

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 16:52 | 3554159 FreeMktFisherMN
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I see the same thing right near my place. 

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 17:09 | 3554174 Element
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Where I live if any registered system monitored fire-alarm sensor is triggered the fire department HAVE to respond to it, ASAP, in person, with an appliance. It is mandatory, no exceptions. They get a huge number of false-alarms every day. That's a lot of what they do, much of the rest of the time they are checking pumps fittings and sprinklers are operational, ready and do work. I'm guessing the same would apply to mandatory paramedical attendance for any hospital or aged-care home fire alarm.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 17:35 | 3554224 RaceToTheBottom
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I get billed a 100$ for every false alarm I mistakedly do on my home breakin alarm system.  Why is not a market driven force appearing here as well?  All they would have to do to spawn some industry solution separating "Old guy dieing" alarm from "building buring down" alarm.  Maybe reduction in costs or some rebate?

Now that hospitals are finally being forced to enter the 20 century, maybe fire stations should as well?

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 19:16 | 3554448 Element
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Why don't you start a BUSINESS doing that, instead of complaining about it, if it's such a prevalent problem in your community?

 

 

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 20:22 | 3554600 RaceToTheBottom
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BIOYAYDH

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 11:50 | 3554439 Element
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Someone asks a simple question, a perfectly valid reply is given, and 5 dickheads down arrow it.

What fucking losers you are.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 22:13 | 3554926 Jena
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It isn't simply for false alarms, it's for medical emergency calls and those situations can often change rapidy from one thing to another with little warning unti the patient is stabilized.  When paramedics get a call the fire department personnel (all certified in CPR and basic life support) responds for added man-power.  When the medics don't know what they're going to be dealing with, it's better to have more hands on deck than too few.  For instance, it's impossible to do CPR, ventilate a patient, push the IV drugs and everything else involved in Advanced Life Support as well as drive the ambulance. The average retirement home has several calls per week if not daily.

That's why you see the fire department trucks along with ambulance calls.  The fire crew stays until they know for certain that they're not needed.  Is it a waste of time?  Not if they're needed. 

Also, firefighters generally work 24 hour shifts, which is why they work eight or nine days per month.  It's no big thing if those shifts are quiet but if they're running all 24 hours long those shifts can be killer.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 21:49 | 3554862 A Nanny Moose
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What teachers?

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 16:07 | 3554070 Boondocker
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Would you really WANT to teach in the current situation?  

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 16:18 | 3554083 Element
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Your point is a good hint why remuneration and conditions are high, i.e. to induce people to seek qualifications, and then engage a long-term career doing it.

Just like any other crap job on earth.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 17:19 | 3554202 g speed
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without a doubt you are a union shill---you just made my overlook this commenter because he has nothing but bullshit to contribute list. Congrads!!

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 19:56 | 3554453 Element
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And you are delusional, with nothing intelligent to say, and incapable of saying it, and are responding with cheap diatribes and denial of the obvious major problems of comprehension and processing you have on this issue.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 15:11 | 3553940 cosmictrainwreck
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College foosball...Big Bidness - the "private sector" our salvation, right?

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 15:12 | 3553944 I am Jobe
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Great Aspirations await the sheeples . Football and basketball. Shows how fucked up states and educational isntutions have fleeced the masses and continue to see the crap . In TX it is a big thing and all you hear at work is the fucking football crap everyday.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 15:12 | 3553945 Skateboarder
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The 'adjunct' professor who taught me semiconductor physics and transistor circuits a few years ago, he has a small corner office that almost has a closet feel to it. He makes less than the guidance counselor (who gives shitty advice) and imparts more knowledge upon the willing student than most other teachers I know. UC system btw, where top med school heads make 3/4s to a million bucks a year easy

The people who do the best work get rewarded the least.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 15:43 | 3554028 James_Cole
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The 'adjunct' professor who taught me semiconductor physics and transistor circuits a few years ago, he has a small corner office that almost has a closet feel to it.

The people who do the best work get rewarded the least.

Not only do they get rewarded the least, they are often (historically and currently) ostracized to boot. 

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 15:16 | 3553954 The Shootist
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The Federal Reserve's 5th mandate, Bread & Circuses.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 15:20 | 3553956 UTICA CLUB XX PURE
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I'm from New York State and I have a wish list. Cuomo, Schumer & Bloomberg are all on it. 

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 15:39 | 3554004 IridiumRebel
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Three people I'd like to see voted out?

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 15:39 | 3554011 quasimodo
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It appears someone who blows mikey junked you

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 16:06 | 3554066 gatorengineer
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{To Jeopardy music},

Who are the next president, sec of state, and govenor of New York?

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 15:24 | 3553964 Colonel Klink
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In a word....DISGUSTING!

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 15:25 | 3553971 Little Boots
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Would like the title 9 effect on this

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 15:26 | 3553974 sitenine
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Priorities, bitchezz!

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 15:30 | 3553981 syntaxterror
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More implied GDP!

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 15:32 | 3553985 Graph
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Drive by any school in US and you’ll see that they are not home of the math, science, literature….they are home of “Tigers”, “Pumas”, “Knights”….

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 18:00 | 3554272 css1971
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Schooling is not education.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 15:34 | 3553986 Yen Cross
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       Welcome to the "United States of Rome".

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 15:36 | 3553998 10mm
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Fuckin goon sport.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 15:39 | 3554006 earleflorida
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SouthPark's 'Cartman' and,  'stu-dent-ath-o-leets'  [crack babies series]

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/387407/stu-dent-ath-o-leets

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 15:41 | 3554019 quasimodo
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I only wish Ferentz would get the Iowa Hawkeys to win some fucking games, and take a huge paycut in the process

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 15:43 | 3554026 sadpanda
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Watch the espn 30/30 documentary Broke. Details how the wallstreet squid gets ahold of these athletes and swindles a good portion of their money. Most are divorced and bankrupt five years into their retirement. Granted most made horrendous personal life choices. But the squid get's theirs; along with the gubmint.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 15:48 | 3554037 Jake88
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Did they figure in graft? Makes a big difference.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 15:50 | 3554039 PiltdownMan
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There  is a business professor at Ohio State University that makes over $600k a year and teaches 1/2 class. His budget is hidden in the Provost's "Specials" budget, so it only appears as a fraction of his true salary.i

And he spends much of his time in Europe on taxpayer dime.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 16:31 | 3554118 W T F II
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Good thing football and hoops 'revenue' can allow for such indulgences...!!

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 15:52 | 3554044 ThisIsBob
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That's showbiz, baby.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 15:59 | 3554052 ParkAveFlasher
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Smile!  You've been Sandusky'd!

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 16:01 | 3554056 Smegley Wanxalot
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On the bright side, Football coaches add value to life, whereas 98% of civil servants and 174% of politicians make life worse for everyone.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 17:16 | 3554194 Skateboarder
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Football coaches, sponsors of tomorrow's brain damage.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 17:25 | 3554211 g speed
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value to life?? -- ok --except of course the players the coaches like to cornhole --

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 16:04 | 3554063 Bahamas
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Highest paid public employee in the world: Giorgio Napolitano from Italy ! 

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 16:10 | 3554074 W T F II
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B,

Not Even Close...!!

Vladimir Putin....HANDS DOWN...!!

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 16:05 | 3554065 Seasmoke
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The Basketball coach in NJ , just got fired for firing basketballs at his players head.......but he still is highest paid because they are paying the fucking pyscho

PLUS they are paying the NEW coach , who is a graduate of Rutgers, but he just never GRADUATED !!!!

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 16:08 | 3554072 W T F II
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NCAA is perhaps the MOST criminal of the many criminal organizations rampant in this Country...!!

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 16:21 | 3554097 Seasmoke
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They do not even have to pay their slaves minimum wage !!!!!!!!

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 16:29 | 3554114 W T F II
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they kick them out if they take $10....

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 16:31 | 3554122 DIgnified
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Hey...... ten bucks is ten bucks.   That's a couple packs of cigarettes.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 16:53 | 3554161 W T F II
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Actually, it's more like 1 1/3 packs...lol

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 17:19 | 3554201 Skateboarder
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Or if you go to a store that doesn't rip you off, a pouch of American Spirit original blend. 50 papers included, and the pouch is good for about 75-80 smokes, so throw in the $2 for an extra pack of papers and you get double the smokes for the same price of two boxes. Real leaf too, none of that sheet tobacco shit they put in the box cigs.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 16:28 | 3554111 DIgnified
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If there's a better example of the 'distracted masses are paramount to all' theory, i haven't seen it.  

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 16:48 | 3554150 I am Jobe
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Sheeples spend lots of money with the crap NFL,MLB, NBA, NCAA all sell and on top of that spend money going to games and watching countless hours. I guess inbreeding does work in the USSA

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 16:54 | 3554163 W T F II
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Where was the NRA 'protection squad'..??

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 17:01 | 3554173 Unwashed
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The collegiate conferences have an ingenuous method to create a relatively new revenue stream - cable channels.

It's the Dire Straits business model - "Money for Nothing"

I think each Big Ten school gets ~ $20million per year from the Big Ten Network.  The ideas is to put the crap on your basic package, so everyone pays. No one watches but each cable bill is charged about $10/yr if your state has a Big Ten team. Just another leech on the fat ass of the American cable subscriber.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 17:30 | 3554189 Kirk2NCC1701
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<---  I pay Federal taxes.  Regulary.  Private sector.  Not a Gov employee.

<---  I  do NOT pay Federal taxes.  Poor, exempt, good CPA + shrewd... or, whatever.

Show of hands please.

 

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 17:17 | 3554196 The Heart
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One has to wonder, how much do these actors get paid?

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/05/11/false-flag-theater-boston-bombin...

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 17:23 | 3554204 Aurora Ex Machina
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I did a long post, then laughed and deleted it, the Society of the Spectacle is obvious.

25% of the Globe's resources to produce fodder for the circus, with ~70% obesity rates and a general populace as ignorant as India's or China's. The irony, of course, is that no-one hates an Empire that produces actual Übermensch.

 

Money and Faith as the sole organization of society. That worked well. Keep pushing those Academies, I'm sure they'll do it differently. The sad reality is that it could all be done so much better and so much more creatively, and when it's over, you'll drive yourselves mad with the lack of the real animus spark.

 

 

Twilight comes.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 17:58 | 3554209 Helvetico
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I bet Gringo Viejo cried when Paterno lost his sainthood for protecting a known pedophile. I bet 99% of his self-worth is derived from the number of brain cells he lost playing Pop Warner ball. Fuck you, Gringo Viejo, for worshiping the false idol of sports. 

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 17:26 | 3554212 noless
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Nevada's made me lol for the sheer utility factor.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 17:28 | 3554214 Stuck on Zero
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What's the big deal? Weren't gladiators among the highest paid in Rome?

 

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 17:39 | 3554227 observer007
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JF Kennedy Secret Societies Speech (full version)

The real reason why he was shot?

 

"For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.


      Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match.
"

 

http://homment.com/kennedy-secracy

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 17:45 | 3554240 Kirk2NCC1701
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When the entire SYSTEM gets corrupted and hijacked, all sorts of aberrations and illnesses occur.  This is just one of many.

The system got corrupted by politicians (Reagan, Bush) who promised economic growth by the miracle of "Deregulation*" that was stifling Wall St.  Careful what you wish for, you just might get it. 

* It turns out that "Deregulation" was a nice big gift box with shiny wrapper and a bow, that had a different content:  Elimination of "Checks & Balances".   / There's NO returning of this gift -- that just keeps on giving. /s

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 17:56 | 3554260 css1971
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WTF are you talking about? The system was born corrupt. Corruption is built in, it is fraud at it's very core. It corrupts and encourages weakness and expediency in everything it touches.

Christ, you think this is 30 years old? No. It's 300 years old at least, probably centuries more to millenia.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 17:47 | 3554242 Catullus
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It's just covering up the ridiculous salaries of a superintendents, provosts, and university presidents.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 17:49 | 3554246 john milton
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zero hedge capitulates.. the next one will be with tax..

c^mon you were almost there..

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 18:03 | 3554276 steveo77
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Kill List - Midwest
Well if the President can have a Kill List, why can't the good guys have a Kill List.

Here are the biggest nuclear threats in the Midwest.    They are some of the oldest, growing up around Chicago and the famous Argonne National Lab who did open air experiments to intentionally make reactors go critical and explode.   Seriously, Mr. Gunderson pointed that one out to me.   See the video at the bottom for documentation of this "Experiment".       Nuke plants can blow up like minor nuclear bombs, the proof is in the video.    The pro-nukers hate this one.

Here is the Midwest map and explanation.

My kill list is, in order of priority, but will take any opportunistic weaknesses that present.

Kewaunee – CONFIRMED KILL
Palisades (Clunker with lots of problems run by Slumlord Entergy, on Lake Michigan)
Lasalle (2 Boiling Water like Fuku, even a lightning strike just took them down)
Cook (On Lake Michigan, 37 YO)
Point Beach (on Lake Michigan, 41 YO, and huge uprate to 118%)
Dresden (2 Boiling Water like Fuku, 41YO and huge uprate to 117%)
Quad Cities (2 Boiling Water like Fuku, 39 YO and huge uprate to 117%)
Monticello (Boiling Water like Fuku, 42 YO)

http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2013/05/kill-list-midwest.html

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 18:18 | 3554303 razorthin
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Hey, I played sports when I was a boy.  Operative words - PLAYED and BOY.  This is just another example of America's thirst for distraction.  Don't teach me or make me think, and God forbid you scare me.  Entertain me.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 18:14 | 3554317 22winmag
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Plenty of mediocre Hollywood actors and mediocre politcal actors are grossly overpaid.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 18:22 | 3554333 I am Jobe
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Great fucking role models

 

Former Lions receiver Titus Young arrested for the third time in a week after break-in

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/former-lions-receiver-...

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 18:23 | 3554336 I am Jobe
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There u have it, stupidty breeding

 

Pregnant Blackhawks fan goes into labour during Game 5, waits for it to end

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/blackhawks-fan-goes-labour-...

 

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 18:36 | 3554354 10PastMidnight
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fuck sports past the high school level and politicians past the hatching level.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 18:45 | 3554376 Mr. Magniloquent
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I hope the Medical School Plastic Surgeon in Nevada doesn't belong to UNR. Most of their teaching physicians are socialites who graduated from the UNR medical school to practice for less than five years, only to return to the UNR medical school as a professor. It's shameful. It's one of the reasons why UNR is ranked as second to last of all the medical schools within the USA. Given that I worked at their training hospital for nearly five years, I can attest to the abyssmal quality that school excreets.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 19:02 | 3554418 john milton
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Word for Omg.. its really time to sell.. whats wrong with you guys, where are you going?? Wikileaks or Anonymous or something where u guys are best for.. ah, but its the visitors...  Miss the old good days..

 

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 19:08 | 3554432 Manipuflation
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See Minnesota?  That's because we spread stupidity equally around here.  Want some leftover lutefisk?

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 21:51 | 3554869 Proofreder
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Naw

Take it to the neighbor who got a skunk living under the porch.

Lutefisk will drive it out, but then he's gotta stinky porch.

Bring along some aquavit, won't smella thing.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 19:18 | 3554452 Bingfa
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This place has cleared right out

Censorship is awesome...

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 19:43 | 3554513 TNTARG
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New Orleans shooting, what about it?

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 20:06 | 3554559 kekekekekekeke
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pay for state troopers in Oklahoma has been frozen since 2006 #priorities

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 20:07 | 3554563 kekekekekekeke
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but I'm a(n) (assistant) (girls) (high school) (tennis) coach too so I can't hate too much

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 20:49 | 3554691 TheFulishBastid
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Well Hell, you don't even factor in the costs of shipping these loads of cattle to various parts of various states to smash into each other.

I used to work in a hotel where the visiting teams stayed when playing against Clemson (football).  3 busloads, couple a trucks with trailers full of gear, hotel and meeting rooms for the night, and let me tell ya, those boys can flat out eat!  Not to mention the support staff.

 

BE AGGRESSIVE! B E AGGRESSIVE! B E A G G R E S S I V E!

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 21:06 | 3554733 dolph9
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The country's a zoo, that's all there is to it.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 21:10 | 3554743 dolph9
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If somebody advances enough to lead an organization such as a university, fine, pay them alot.

But coaches?  Honestly?  Does it really take all that much skill to tell a bunch of nigs where to run and who to pass the ball to?

 

Obscene.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 21:29 | 3554804 boeing747
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We pay them to destroy this great country called United States of America, once 'sweet home of liberty' as Neil Diamond sang.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 21:37 | 3554826 egoist
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Sun, 05/12/2013 - 22:51 | 3555021 hfbamafan
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Granted alot of the coaches are partially paid by boosters including mine I do not have much of a problem with this.

 

RMFT!!!

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 23:36 | 3555127 Kelley
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As a former writer for a college newspaper, I've seen the actual financial reports for the athletic department.

Coaches can get paid six figures for those halftime interviews that last maybe 30-60 seconds. Who pays them? The school!

The students, including PHD candidates who have no time or interest in sporting events, were FORCED to pay student activity fees each semester that went mostly to the athletic department.

The profits from the cafeteria system also went to the athletic department. This was about $4 million a year if memory serves.

Without the student activity fees and the cafeteria profits, the athletic department was in a huge financial hole. Even with it, they still "lost" money.

One year, the football team went to a bowl game. Despite a huge payment to the school, the AD announced they had just broken even from the trip. Many comp tickets were given to donors. Incestuous to the max!

 

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 23:40 | 3555145 Son of Loki
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The future looks....bright?

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 07:52 | 3555618 Milton Freewater
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Fuck Sports!!

 

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 08:12 | 3555653 torak
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Says a lot about America and it's priorities.

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