Ron Paul: What No One Wants to Hear About Benghazi

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From Ron Paul

What No One Wants to Hear About Benghazi

Congressional hearings, White House damage control, endless op-eds, accusations, and defensive denials. Controversy over the events in Benghazi last September took center stage in Washington and elsewhere last week. However, the whole discussion is again more of a sideshow. Each side seeks to score political points instead of asking the real questions about the attack on the US facility, which resulted in the death of US Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.

Republicans smell a political opportunity over evidence that the Administration heavily edited initial intelligence community talking points about the attack to remove or soften anything that might reflect badly on the president or the State Department.

Are we are supposed to be shocked by such behavior? Are we supposed to forget that this kind of whitewashing of facts is standard operating procedure when it comes to the US government?

Democrats in Congress have offered the even less convincing explanation for Benghazi, that somehow the attack occurred due to Republican sponsored cuts in the security budget at facilities overseas. With a one trillion dollar military budget, it is hard to take this seriously.

It appears that the Administration scrubbed initial intelligence reports of references to extremist Islamist involvement in the attacks, preferring to craft a lie that the demonstrations were a spontaneous response to an anti-Islamic video that developed into a full-out attack on the US outpost.

Who can blame he administration for wanting to shift the focus? The Islamic radicals who attacked Benghazi were the same people let loose by the US-led attack on Libya. They were the rebels on whose behalf the US overthrew the Libyan government. Ambassador Stevens was slain by the same Islamic radicals he personally assisted just over one year earlier.

But the Republicans in Congress also want to shift the blame. They supported the Obama Administration’s policy of bombing Libya and overthrowing its government. They also repeated the same manufactured claims that Gaddafi was “killing his own people” and was about to commit mass genocide if he were not stopped. Republicans want to draw attention to the President’s editing talking points in hopes no one will notice that if the attack on Libya they supported had not taken place, Ambassador Stevens would be alive today.

Neither side wants to talk about the real lesson of Benghazi: interventionism always carries with it unintended consequences. The US attack on Libya led to the unleashing of Islamist radicals in Libya. These radicals have destroyed the country, murdered thousands, and killed the US ambassador. Some of these then turned their attention to Mali which required another intervention by the US and France.

Previously secure weapons in Libya flooded the region after the US attack, with many of them going to Islamist radicals who make up the majority of those fighting to overthrow the government in Syria. The US government has intervened in the Syrian conflict on behalf of the same rebels it assisted in the Libya conflict, likely helping with the weapons transfers. With word out that these rebels are mostly affiliated with al Qaeda, the US is now intervening to persuade some factions of the Syrian rebels to kill other factions before completing the task of ousting the Syrian government. It is the dizzying cycle of interventionism.

The real lesson of Benghazi will not be learned because neither Republicans nor Democrats want to hear it. But it is our interventionist foreign policy and its unintended consequences that have created these problems, including the attack and murder of Ambassador Stevens. The disputed talking points and White House whitewashing are just a sideshow.

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kato's picture

Intervention... True, Iraq was not worth one American life.

SoundMoney45's picture

Libya now has a BIS affiliated central bank and a fiat currency.  Mission accomplished.

iDealMeat's picture

Ron Paul Doesn't care.. Or he fears for his life.  Probably a lot of both.. 

 

Could have been a true Statesman and called Corzine and the Bernank before his committee..

 

But alas..  nothing..

 

fuck him.

The Juggernaut's picture

"Ambassador Stevens was slain by the same Islamic radicals he personally assisted just over one year earlier."

 

If any stupid fucking NSA, CIA, DICK or whatever reads this its about time you rethink why the fuck you're manipulating other countries.  The Blowback is 110% all your fault, turncoat fuckers.

MillionDollarBonus_'s picture

I'm not an expert on all this "Benghazi" stuff, but it doesn't take a genius to know that there are plenty of angry terrorists out there who hate America and will do almost anything to destroy our way of life. When you are facing a ruthless enemy, you need to take every measure to fight back, and this includes military action as well as domestic measures such as wiretapping and personal data warehousing. Another thing to remember is that fighting terrorism requires a vigilant population at home that is always on the lookout for suspicious activity. It's easy to spot the terrorists overseas, but anybody could be a terrorist at home.

IMACOINNUT's picture

MDB

Hey jerk, read the article again and just maybe you will scratch the surface of the intended message.

The Juggernaut's picture

@MillionDollarBonus_:  You're totally missing the point.  US troops and instigators move in (via Global Corporations, Banks, etc...) and the US people are kept in the dark about that initial intrusion.  So when the oil rich citizens of a country hit back most American's are lied to thinking America is randomly hit.

 

If terrorists hated American's because they're rich and free they must like them now.

kchrisc's picture

And ironically most domestic "terrorism" is planned, funded and executed by the FBI (Federal Bureau of Invention) for the benefit of their own agenda.

Add in that the US government is THE aggressor around the world, and the picture becomes clear on who really are the true murders for terror.

USA! USA! USA!

Now let's sing that funny song, you know, the one with the line, "...land of the free, home of the brave." LOL, what a cruel joke.                    hujel

redpill's picture

"land of the debt slaves, and home of the drone pilots" doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

 

BTW, MDB isn't to be taken seriously.

Jack Napier's picture

Rogue State agrees with Dr. Paul. Cause and effect bitchez.

PaJoad's picture

I think MBD is a master at setting the hook...

Buckaroo Banzai's picture

MDB does a fantastic job of parroting whatever the "company line" is in almost every field-- politics, economics, journalism, etc. Whether he is simply a sophisticated troll, or someone who just deliberately leaves off the /sarc tag for shits and giggles, he provides a valuable service in documenting the Bullshit Du Jour.

WhyDoesItHurtWhen iPee's picture

I'm not an expert on all this "Benghazi" stuff

Then shut the fuck up, ass nectar.

francis_sawyer's picture

Wanna know something really funny [vis-a-vis the MDB comment]?... This is a TRUE story...

~~~

I was talking to a friend of mine [who works as a 'Praetorian' for an unnamed MIC supplier], who I'd been ever so slowly, over a period of time, upping the dosage on RED PILLS for [with regards to different stories]... Anyway ~ I'm talking to this person a few days after the Benghazi story broke in an effort to help him/her see the light with regards to the "arms transfer" angle... I'm going on and on & as I am, in walks another person that both of us know, but neither knew anything about his/her occupation...

After a few minutes, CLEARLY this 'other person' became unraveled a bit & pretty much blurted out to me [paraphrasing]... "Well ~ you simply don't know what you're talking about... I happen to work for [insert alphabet soup here] & I can tell you that you're just not privy to the same information that we have"...

He/she was pretty much giving me the same story that MDB was above...

Oddly ~ the main focus of the topic of my assertations with the 'aforementioned' friend was me trying to get him/her to understand that what their bosses were telling them [IOW, the intel that they were getting from above] was horseshit...

So now you know HOW these agencies are capable of having 10's of thousands of 6 figure 'Praetorians' working for them...

TRUE STORY

Precious's picture

It's a riot watching these Administration doucebags try to juggle their lies.  Add "spinning bullshit" to the GNP and the USA would be growing 8% annually.

Saint Pitbull's picture

Not one of these countries is worthy of a warm turd, however, when they are exporting terrorists that filter through the US's porous borders and kill and maim us, and try to brainwash others, action must be taken.  The US's foreign policies have sucked for years.  It sucks in Rep administrations and it really sucks in Dem administrations.  The US effectively has NO foreign policy.  Is it any wonder with the limp dick presidents we've had for years?

And to all of the asshats who regurgitate that "we are doing it for the oil".  It seems to me that the US NEVER gets the oil!  China often does though - and I wonder how that happens?

And you know what - not an effin thing will change because the majority LoFo voters now effectively decide our elections and they:

- don't know that our young men and women are currently fighting undeclared wars

- don't know the US has military installations in over 130 countries

- who Ben Ghazi is

- think rich = bad

- couldn't find Saudi Arabia on a map

- don't know who the Vice President is (or if we even have one)

- don't pay taxes and think that the government earns its money

- think that socialism is a good thing

- can't read or write - and don't care since the reason they can't get a job is a lack of the most basic skills - it's because "life dealt them a bad hand"

But they sure know how to get an obamaphone and how to find a doctor to put them on disability and how to fill out welfare forms.

Panafrican Funktron Robot's picture

"when they are exporting terrorists that filter through the US's porous borders and kill and maim us, and try to brainwash others, action must be taken"

Who/what is Al-Qaeda, who funds it, and what is it's purpose?  That is your homework. 

Debt-Is-Not-Money's picture

"Who/what is Al-Qaeda, who funds it, and what is it's purpose?  That is your homework."

First, one needs to spell it properly- It' Al CIAda.

The Heart's picture

"First, one needs to spell it properly- It' Al CIAda."

Al-CIA-duh!

Fixed.

Debt-Is-Not-Money's picture

A Scott Adams (Dilbert) fan I see!

The Heart's picture

Lol...it's all good DINM. Thanks for the feedback. Bless.

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

Can't even finish reading this crap... Rich = $1 billion, and yes, in most cases that money was stolen, not earned.

Wealth has been stolen from 95% of the worlds population their entire life, and I only advocate returning it, nothing more, nothing less.

US is the world empire, that is the foreign policy.  China is just a scrawny kid out of high school who has been fed a steady diet of steroids and growth hormones.  Who supplied the steroids and growth hormones, and why, is the real question.   Who profited from moving all those factories oversees???

kchrisc's picture

Thanks for the laugh and the good cry.      hujel

Ying-Yang's picture

MBD says "it is easy to spot a terrorists overseas." REALLY... easy?

No it is easy to spot MDB saying whatever to get a rise on ZH. I am guessing one of the Tylers makes up MBD to get more comments.

francis_sawyer's picture

Well it's odd... to me anyway... that MDB comments don't, in the end, require surgical interventions by way of scrutiny from the Lodge of the juxtaposed triangular cheese popes...

kridkrid's picture

A couple of people from your story may just "say something" now that they have "seen something". Do you think we will get much outside time?

francis_sawyer's picture

Good question... & I really don't know... [Nor do I really care anymore]...

~~~

Here's how a Las Vegas bookie might handicap it... [in terms of points to consider]...

- It's a TRUE STORY... [says francis_sawyer ~ but most people on this blog think I'm FOS, so the 'value' may be zero]...

- I've identified the 2 individuals as 'he/she'... Doesn't narrow it down much does it?

- Even if you take a step further, the 'he/she's' involved here have a lot more to LOSE from exposure than I do ~ because the feathers in their nests are tied into the 'cheesepopebux' system... Mine are not...

- So... Wanna TAKE IT ALL THE WAY & make an EXAMPLE out of me [which would require droning my ass, or some shit]... Fine... Do it... [In which case... it would PROVE that everything I've ever said all along is TRUE... In the end, it might be a pyrrhic victory for me]... But I'm hoping that there would be virgins waiting for me on the other side... Or, a case of Natty Boh...

illyia's picture

Welcome to the New World Order.

<sarc>

Skateboarder's picture

Yes, all the gun-like-finger-pointing kindergartener terrorists must be waterboarded and brought to submission.

A bell around the neck for every patriot! Hoorah!

gorillaonyourback's picture

your a treacherous SOCK PUPPET million dollar idiot.  when we have a revolution and we will, it will be nice to rid our country of the  criminal government backed diaper wearing facists like u.    If reading shit like this doesn't git you off the couch to go  buy guns and ammo, god i dont know what else will.

MsCreant's picture

MBD,

You do a great job here. I have griped about various posts of yours in the past "jumping the shark" or edging on falling out of character, but really, that is your point being made here. 

By working so hard to stay in this character you demonstrate for us how impossible it is to actually embody, in one consistent belief system, the strands of thought that are constantly foisted upon us by the mainstream media. It is a joke because, well, it is a joke. No one could really believe all of this, thus, it truly is bullshit and simply does not work. Ergo, they are bullshitting us because to believe as MBD does is too absurd.

You are a wonderful effigy. I personally love hating you. 

francis_sawyer's picture

@MsCreant

~~~

If that's the case, you're going to simply ADORE the upcoming saga which chronicles the wacky escapades of the eclectic jazz ensemble 'Squeaky McWheel & the Yodelers'... [not to mention ~ their traveling hoard of groupies who call themselves 'The Oilers']...

"It's wonderful to be here

It's certainly a thrill

You're such a lovely audience

We'd like to take you home with us

We'd love to take you home"

Ignatius's picture

MDB

I just dropped a dime on you.  It's obvious to me that you are masquerading as a super patriot to hide your real, terrorist agenda.  Nice try.

Grinder74's picture

Nice, I went to click the down arrow while it was at -10, and after clicking it showed -34.  Rough day MDB??

ATM's picture

He still gets his Obama bucks for trolling the intraweb. Good gig if you can get it.

Guess he didn't make the cut to be a Dem spokesperson.

goBackToSleep's picture

Uh sure, and I guess jet fuel disentigrates buildings and some towelhead ass hat just so happened to take out a nice little chunk of the seal team that double tapped Bin Laden. Oh, yeah and a Youtube video sparked the benghazi thing as well. Bad news MDB, if Youtube has that much power, then surely there's an American revolution coming. Perhaps we at DHS should be datamining and preparing, oh wait..............

Agstacker's picture

" includes military action as well as domestic measures such as wiretapping and personal data warehousing."

 

You forgot to add door-to door warantless searches.

Long-John-Silver's picture

I'm not an expert on all this "Benghazi" stuff

You are an expert at trolling, I'll give you that honour.

Van Halen's picture

MDB, you are the best threadjacker I have seen in quite a while. You walk in here, drop a grenade, and wander off with a smile on your face, confident that everyone will be in an uproar long after you're gone. And you always succeed in your intentions.

I wish you were on our side.

MarsInScorpio's picture

MDB:

 

Once again, a brilliant satire missed by the air-heads who respond with fire and brimstone.

 

Dear Air-heads: MDB is a satirist. His posts are ridiculing the left-wing whack jobs who rationalize the insanity in the Obama WH. He shows them to be fools without peer; masquerading as "intelligentsia" when they are, in fact, dolts.

If you are so simple that you cannot recognize satire, then you should find someone to be your Guardian Ad-Litem, because you are incapable of determining reality for yourself.

 

In this case, he skewers their tin-foil hat theories about the need for the DHS, the Utah Universal Database, drones for domestic spying by agencies forbidden to intervene in the US, warrantless searches focused on wire-taps - but now expanded by the FBI to include your private emails, and additionally by the Boston murders, warrantless searches and ejection from your home at gunpoint, and in direct violation of a specific and unmistakable constitutional prohibition, the barracking of troops in private residences without either a declaration of emergency or martial law.

 

If you can't tell this is what MDB does - just as the satirist Dr. Krugman does in his niche, you are an empty intellect.

-30-

Jack Napier's picture

You aren't saying anything that isn't blatantly obvious, and it doesn't make it less annoying or magically change drivel into positive contribution. It's all about the ego, nothing more.

thewhitelion's picture

Not sure who to call, but I'm pretty sure I just spotted an asshole.

Skateboarder's picture

This morning's 5am radio alarm woke me up with stuff about Benghazi, saying "Americans have been lied to for over a month!"

I was too sleepy to LOL my pants off, but I did manage to get a couple of laughs in before going back to bed for another hour. I think this shit must've been NPR. Hi, I'm Mee-shalll Norris and I'm lying to your face, you idiot fuck.

Ignatius's picture

Unless the 'blowback' is intended

nugjuice's picture

Ron Paul has called out Bernank countless times, and while I'm not sure if he's specifically called out Corzine I'm sure he would if he could.

If there's one person who does care it's him.

But there's only so much one man can do. And dammit, that one man is doing a HELLUVA lot. You say fuck him to the one person who has tirelessly brought to the attention of the American people the corruption and cronyism of politicians? The one man who has inspired an entire movement of less gov't intervention and more gov't transparency?

I'd say your hatred and anger would be much better directed at...well...pretty much anyone else in the country.