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Watergate Was For Amateurs: Justice Department Spied For Months On Associated Press Reporters

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And so the final curtain falls on the myth of what was supposed to be, in its own words, the "most transparent administration" in history.

As it turns out, the big Friday story of Bloomberg journalists snooping on clients was just amateur hour compared to what the AP was about to serve. In fact, the Watergate affair may soon appear like a walk in the park compared to the First Amendment shitstorm that is about to be unleashed following the just reported news that the US Department of Justice had "secretly obtained two months of telephone records of reporters and editors for The Associated Press in what the news cooperative's top executive called a "massive and unprecedented intrusion" into how news organizations gather the news."

First amendment? Freedom of speech and press? Surely not when it comes to the Nobel-peace prize winning President and those who dare to expose his secret ways.

And what's worst, is that the AP breach has all the makings of a spiteful hack driven by personal vengeance against one of America's premier news outlets.

We can't wait to see the rest of the not so conservative media stands up in arms and defend one of their peers against an administration whose utter disdain for all checks and balances puts Stalinist Russia to shame. Or perhaps it will be merely a case of "first they came for AP's reporters, and we said nothing..."

And while it has long been known that the NSA actively intercepts and records every single form of electronic communication, the unspoken truth is that the government can do anything it wants as long as it doesn't get caught. It just did, and not only in Benghazi, or the IRS fiasco, but in making a complete mockery of the First Amendment.

As the NSA whistleblower told Wired Magazine over a year ago, “we are this far from a turnkey totalitarian state", all we can add is "we are now in a full-blown totalitarian state."

And nobody cares.

The AP story which must be read to be believed:

The Justice Department secretly obtained two months of telephone records of reporters and editors for The Associated Press in what the news cooperative's top executive called a "massive and unprecedented intrusion" into how news organizations gather the news.


The records obtained by the Justice Department listed incoming and outgoing calls, and the duration of each call, for the work and personal phone numbers of individual reporters, general AP office numbers in New York, Washington and Hartford, Conn., and the main number for AP reporters in the House of Representatives press gallery, according to attorneys for the AP.


In all, the government seized those records for more than 20 separate telephone lines assigned to AP and its journalists in April and May of 2012. The exact number of journalists who used the phone lines during that period is unknown but more than 100 journalists work in the offices whose phone records were targeted on a wide array of stories about government and other matters.


In a letter of protest sent to Attorney General Eric Holder on Monday, AP President and Chief Executive Officer Gary Pruitt said the government sought and obtained information far beyond anything that could be justified by any specific investigation. He demanded the return of the phone records and destruction of all copies.


"There can be no possible justification for such an overbroad collection of the telephone communications of The Associated Press and its reporters. These records potentially reveal communications with confidential sources across all of the newsgathering activities undertaken by the AP during a two-month period, provide a road map to AP's newsgathering operations, and disclose information about AP's activities and operations that the government has no conceivable right to know," Pruitt said.


The government would not say why it sought the records. U.S. officials have previously said in public testimony that the U.S. attorney in Washington is conducting a criminal investigation into who may have leaked information contained in a May 7, 2012, AP story about a foiled terror plot. The story disclosed details of a CIA operation in Yemen that stopped an al-Qaida plot in the spring of 2012 to detonate a bomb on an airplane bound for the United States.


In testimony in February, CIA Director John Brennan noted that the FBI had questioned him about whether he was AP's source, which he denied. He called the release of the information to the media about the terror plot an "unauthorized and dangerous disclosure of classified information."


Prosecutors have sought phone records from reporters before, but the seizure of records from such a wide array of AP offices, including general AP switchboards numbers and an office-wide shared fax line, is unusual and largely unprecedented.


In the letter notifying the AP received Friday, the Justice Department offered no explanation for the seizure, according to Pruitt's letter and attorneys for the AP. The records were presumably obtained from phone companies earlier this year although the government letter did not explain that. None of the information provided by the government to the AP suggested the actual phone conversations were monitored.


Among those whose phone numbers were obtained were five reporters and an editor who were involved in the May 7, 2012 story.


The Obama administration has aggressively investigated disclosures of classified information to the media and has brought six cases against people suspected of leaking classified information, more than under all previous presidents combined.


Justice Department published rules require that subpoenas of records from news organizations must be personally approved by the attorney general but it was not known if that happened in this case. The letter notifying AP that its phone records had been obtained though subpoenas was sent Friday by Ronald Machen, the U.S. attorney in Washington.


Spokesmen in Machen's office and at the Justice Department had no immediate comment on Monday.


The Justice Department lays out strict rules for efforts to get phone records from news organizations. A subpoena can only be considered after "all reasonable attempts" have been made to get the same information from other sources, the rules say. It was unclear what other steps, in total, the Justice Department has taken to get information in the case.


A subpoena to the media must be "as narrowly drawn as possible" and "should be directed at relevant information regarding a limited subject matter and should cover a reasonably limited time period," according to the rules.


The reason for these constraints, the department says, is to avoid actions that "might impair the news gathering function" because the government recognizes that "freedom of the press can be no broader than the freedom of reporters to investigate and report the news."


News organizations normally are notified in advance that the government wants phone records and enter into negotiations over the desired information. In this case, however, the government, in its letter to the AP, cited an exemption to those rules that holds that prior notification can be waived if such notice, in the exemption's wording, might "pose a substantial threat to the integrity of the investigation."


It is unknown whether a judge or a grand jury signed off on the subpoenas.


The May 7, 2012, AP story that disclosed details of the CIA operation in Yemen to stop an airliner bomb plot occurred around the one-year anniversary of the May 2, 2011, killing of Osama bin Laden.


The plot was significant because the White House had told the public it had "no credible information that terrorist organizations, including al-Qaida, are plotting attacks in the U.S. to coincide with the (May 2) anniversary of bin Laden's death."


The AP delayed reporting the story at the request of government officials who said it would jeopardize national security. Once government officials said those concerns were allayed, the AP disclosed the plot because officials said it no longer endangered national security. The Obama administration, however, continued to request that the story be held until the administration could make an official announcement.


The May 7 story was written by reporters Matt Apuzzo and Adam Goldman with contributions from reporters Kimberly Dozier, Eileen Sullivan and Alan Fram. They and their editor, Ted Bridis, were among the journalists whose April-May 2012 phone records were seized by the government.


Brennan talked about the AP story and leaks investigation in written testimony to the Senate. "The irresponsible and damaging leak of classified information was made ... when someone informed the Associated Press that the U.S. Government had intercepted an IED (improvised explosive device) that was supposed to be used in an attack and that the U.S. Government currently had that IED in its possession and was analyzing it," he said.


He also defended the White House's plan to discuss the plot immediately afterward. "Once someone leaked information about interdiction of the IED and that the IED was actually in our possession, it was imperative to inform the American people consistent with Government policy that there was never any danger to the American people associated with this al-Qa'ida plot," Brennan told senators.

Ah... the illusion of "freedom"

And below is a stock photo of a very busy Eric Holder. Well, at least busy when he is spying on the 4th estate. Not so busy when he is avoiding investigating and prosecuting Too Big To Prosecutve bankers for being instrumental in some $15 trillion in global asset transfers from the middle to the upper classes (and counting at a pace of $160 billion per month).

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Finally, in parallel news, following a FOIA request by the ACLU to learn more about the government’s practice of reading people’s email, text messages, social networking feeds and other private electronic communications without a warrant, here is one of "informative" responses the ACLU received back from the "most transparent" Department of Justice.




Updates via Politico:

Pruitt's full letter to Attorney General Holder:

There can be no possible justification for such an overbroad collection of the telephone communications of The Associated Press and its reporters. These records potentially reveal communications with confidential sources across all of the newsgathering activities undertaken by the AP during a two-month period, provide a road map to AP’s newsgathering operations, and disclose information about AP’s activities and operations that the government has no conceivable right to know.

We regard this action by the Department of Justice as a serious interference with AP’s constitutional rights to gather and report the news.

The Dept. of Justice has released the following statement:

We take seriously our obligations to follow all applicable laws, federal regulations, and Department of Justice policies when issuing subpoenas for phone records of media organizations. Those regulations require us to make every reasonable effort to obtain information through alternative means before even considering a subpoena for the phone records of a member of the media. We must notify the media organization in advance unless doing so would pose a substantial threat to the integrity of the investigation. Because we value the freedom of the press, we are always careful and deliberative in seeking to strike the right balance between the public interest in the free flow of information and the public interest in the fair and effective administration of our criminal laws.

House Oversight Committee chairman Darrell Issa has released the following statement:

This is obviously disturbing. Coming within a week of revelations that the White House lied to the American people about the Benghazi attacks and the IRS targeted conservative Americans for their political beliefs, Americans should take notice that top Obama Administration officials increasingly see themselves as above the law and emboldened by the belief that they don’t have to answer to anyone.  I will work with my fellow House Chairmen on an appropriate response to Obama Administration officials.


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Mon, 05/13/2013 - 17:13 | 3557953 THX 1178
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"I am not a cook"

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 17:15 | 3557962 localsavage
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Obama has a free ride from the press and he is even going to fuck that up....classic

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 17:16 | 3557966 ACP
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You reap what you sow, bitchez!

The First Amendment...use it or LOSE IT!

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 17:22 | 3557996 francis_sawyer
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You gotta be fucking kidding me...


AP reporters are all 'Rothschild' flunkies...

Has ZH gone FULL RETARD?...

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 17:39 | 3558066 Say What Again
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Is there any connection to this story and the recent hack-attack of the AP twitter feed?


Makes you want to go back to using pagers, pay phones, & burners

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 17:47 | 3558098 The Thunder Child
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The Rothschilds own AP (Rothschilds purchased Reuters in the 1800s and Reuters purchased AP a few decades ago), The criminal families indirectly own the Justice Department through blackmail, secret socities and traitors so this is a load of BS propaganda.

Francis you are absolutely correct, idiot downvoters.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 17:51 | 3558142 jaap
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this also explains the secret press meeting just before the white house press session with carney

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 17:58 | 3558169 McMolotov
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What's scary is that, as we sit here typing, people behind the scenes are likely working hard to come up with some new way to distract everyone from this.

They're gonna need a bigger pressure cooker...

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 18:02 | 3558183 The Thunder Child
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False Flags almost always happen at the beginning of the week, gives them days to loop that shit over and over to scare the public into giving up more freedoms. Keep an eye out on Memorial day...

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 18:38 | 3558335 redpill
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Just watch, some of these media leghumpers will STILL carry this traitor's water.  Unfuckingbelievable.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 19:10 | 3558446 flacon
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JUSTICE Department is in which of the the three branches of government? 


b. Executive 

c. Legislative





Mon, 05/13/2013 - 19:16 | 3558473 The Alarmist
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You call this news?  The news would be the list of the dozen or so privat individuals and organisations that are not being spied upon.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 19:22 | 3558492 TwoShortPlanks
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America needs to nuke.....itself!

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 19:32 | 3558521 dfwpike
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It's Bush's fault.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 19:53 | 3558582 francis_sawyer
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@Thunder Child


Thank you for your 'verification' [which any 'non-LAZY'] person around here could have done for themselves...

What's 'frightfully' odd, to me, are the number of times I get JUNKED by persons who go on to 'label' me as an emotionally reactive person... Only to find out later that my comment was 100% substantiated by FACT... Whereby, it's either <crickets>, or worse, about a week later they'll lash out in the same old way hoping to wear the victim down...

Kinda sad... I'm ESPECIALLY hated by the 'CheesePopes'...

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 20:00 | 3558596 TuesdayBen
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The Most Transparently Corrupt Administration in US history.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 20:32 | 3558694 BigJim
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 The Justice Department secretly obtained two months of telephone records of reporters and editors for The Associated Press in what the news cooperative's top executive called a "massive and unprecedented intrusion" into how news organizations gather the news.

This is news? I thought Utah meant they're weeks away from doing this to EVERYONE EVERY DAY. 

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 21:18 | 3558799 The Thunder Child
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Every phone call, text, email has been recorded for years by the NSA. They were just running out of storage...which is why this AP/Justice propaganda article is a load of shit. They could quietly pull all the phone calls without anyone knowing the wiser just ask David Petraeus.

I was hiding behind a VPN for some time for surfing and posting, but I don't care anymore fuck them, I will not be scared or made paranoid....fear is the mindkiller.

I will stand up and my voice will be heard. I'm here in Toronto come get me fuckers!

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 22:20 | 3559032 kliguy38
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You will kneel to the Queen NOW peasant......and GROOM the stool........on the other hand, we're all dead anyway so might as well not going out being a coward to these scum

Tue, 05/14/2013 - 06:28 | 3559538 GetZeeGold
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How bad is it when MSNBC calls it tyranny?


I's freakin MSNBC for the love of pete!!!

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 23:00 | 3559106 Ident 7777 economy
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 The Thunder Child:


" Every phone call, text, email has been recorded for years by the NSA. ..."

Oh bullshit! I pulled off two armed bank robberies and BRAGGED about it to a friend over the phone and I'm still free!




























Mon, 05/13/2013 - 23:20 | 3559142 TwoShortPlanks
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That funny feeling you had just after posting your comment - almost a concern nobody [of importance] takes your comments seriously - is what's being worked upon right now; to keep people fearful, even in gest, so as to usher-in control....1984 style.

Tue, 05/14/2013 - 01:01 | 3559293 James_Cole
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"We take seriously our obligations to follow all applicable laws, federal regulations, and Department of Justice policies when issuing subpoenas for phone records of media organizations." 

To be honest I'm starting to get the sense that Eric Holder is not a completely honest guy.

Also, funny seeing zh quoting ACLU so frequently these days. A good 'funny' but one of those things I'd of thought commentators on here would be in a frenzy over.  

Tue, 05/14/2013 - 01:17 | 3559319 Richard Chesler
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Corruption you can believe in.

Forward motherfuckers!


Tue, 05/14/2013 - 03:39 | 3559427 boogerbently
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"massive and unprecedented intrusion" 

That's a pretty accurate description of how the "news media" operates.

Not so fun being on the receiving end, I guess !

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 23:29 | 3559160 DeadFred
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Who cares about bank robberies? Did you give contributions to Ron Paul?

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 20:00 | 3558597 TwoShortPlanks
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I'm only here to gather intel (IP, Mac Ads) on bloggers...I like getting junked.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 20:32 | 3558696 Muddy1
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An open letter to all of you effers in the media:


You effers have been directly involved with promoting the need for more gun control.  How does it feel when your rights get infringed, FUCKERS??????  No lubricating jelly for you.

Ready to trade sides on the gun control issue?

Tue, 05/14/2013 - 00:35 | 3559265 buyingsterling
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President Puke and his salad tossers will still agitate for gun control. And these 'scandals' won't amount to dick. Has everyone forgotten that Obama is black? That makes him totally blameless. He will go down in history (according to the 'respectable' historians) as a harassed and henpecked savior. Count on it. A country capable of twice electing this piece of shit president isn't capable of holding him to account for anything. He's black. (repeat 'he's black' until you finally get it). 

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 21:25 | 3558852 Sabibaby
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While you collect packets, we're collecting bullets :)

Tue, 05/14/2013 - 00:35 | 3559154 TwoShortPlanks
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Guns and Ammo won't buy you a Backstage Pass at the Agenda21 concert, but Gold will. Not lots of it, just a solid belief in it, with actions and buying habbits supporting that belief.

There's more than one reason as to why the Gold price is within reach of the average person with conviction (globally), yet for the rest it seems to be either too expensive, or in a bubble.

Freedom Of Choice can be a bitch!

Look a little deeper: Central Banks today don’t have exit strategies because they’re not meant to have them. A CB is only as strong as the currency it prints, the rate it lends at, and the ability of that currency to rise once CB assets are resold (changes in the economy and standard of living can vary between buying and selling).

If you lease to yourself Gold you already own, then purchase it from yourself, so that you still own the principle Gold but are now owed the leased Gold as well, then you have doubled your wealth so long as the Gold cannot be obtained elsewhere (think Chinese & Indian buying pressure). If you do this while owning the currency with which the Gold was denominated in, thus supressing the Gold price and making it cheaper to buy, then, once the Gold runs dry you flood the market with the same currency, your wealth becomes a multiple of the underlying physical. If you do all of this and rehypothicate through the leasing process, you will own the principle Gold, a multiplier effect of your original wealth, and a value of debt which is an exponential of the principle Gold value.

The Gold may have moved, sure, but it's still mostly owned by the same entities.

Do you really think they care about the purchasing power of any currency?

Tue, 05/14/2013 - 00:47 | 3559274 Shell Game
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(on the periodic table)

Tue, 05/14/2013 - 01:08 | 3559303 TwoShortPlanks
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Please read my post above and then read this piece from William Kaye’s interview on KWN.,_Financial_Collapse_%26_The_Fed.html

The reason there is no exit is as soon as they exit, or try, the system will collapse on itself [not until every ounce is hoarded].  The only thing keeping everything going in this fictional world is one trillion dollars per year, which almost exactly matches the size of the US government budget deficit.  This means until it does collapse it can keep going.  This is how it’s getting financed.

Then, take a look at what has happened in history when similar policies were followed.  Why would you want to own a currency that is being so thoroughly debased? [Coz it's about cornering Gold!]  And it’s not just the Federal Reserve.  The ECB is doing the same thing.  The Bank of England is doing the same thing, and the most aggressive culprit of all now is the Bank of Japan.

So that’s the setup.  That’s the real world.  Pay no attention to Hilsenrath, he’s just a hack.  Pay no attention to the bullion banks who keep putting out these bear market reports and low forecasts for gold, trying to scare everybody out.  These are the same people who are short gold [ and the same people who own the physical Gold, the CBs and the Currencies too].

ABN AMRO is one of the most bearish banks on the price of gold.  ABN AMRO has already defaulted on gold.  In other words, they don’t have any gold.  About one month ago they sent a circular out telling their own customers who own their paper which says, you own gold, ‘Don’t call us and redeem this paper for gold.’

So ABN AMRO doesn’t have any gold.  And if you check the public information, JP Morgan has almost no gold.  They are at modern era record lows in their warehouses.  The COMEX, as of the last report I looked at, had under 200 tons of gold.  That’s also a modern era record low, against enormous liabilities to deliver gold [rehypothication of the principle Gold].”

Tue, 05/14/2013 - 02:21 | 3559361 TwoShortPlanks
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And here: 


Who has 400 tons of gold?  Goldman Sachs reportedly entered that order, but they don’t have 400 tons of gold.  Who has 400 tons of gold?  If 400 tons of (physical) gold is just lying around somewhere, why couldn’t ABN AMRO borrow it?  Why did they have to default? 

That was the first sign that this was the new strategy, and we (central planners) are going to engage in the wholesale raid, the wholesale manipulation of the precious metals market.  We’re just going to scare the public out of this thing, destroy investor psychology, and we the elite, the insiders, will acquire more at these cheap prices.  And if the downside is there is a redistribution of tangible wealth from West to East, so be it.  So to sum up, Eric, this is a criminal conspiracy.”


Mon, 05/13/2013 - 21:07 | 3558758 The Thunder Child
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You're welcome, JDL and Hasbara have you pegged....I would start calling them what they are 'Luciferian'. They hide behind Judaism, Christianity, Muslim, Flying Spaghetti Monsters...if people knew they were satanists they wouldn't get very far.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 21:47 | 3558935 Iocosus
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Indeed. It's hiding in plain sight. It should be obvious to whoever saw the Superbowl halftime ritual.


It's very real and people think we'll change it politically or by buying gold. They own the financial markets, in fact, they would never have accomplished so much without control of the markets, brought to the world through arch-demon Rothschild. We're battling spiritual principalities; the elite either believe they'll reign in hell or are possessed, or both. We know how the story ends, but in the meantime, things will get hairy and we will be forced to survive in a Doom-like world.

The great conspiracy is to make us believe they don't exist or to label us paranoid.

Tue, 05/14/2013 - 03:00 | 3559402 Clashfan
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The Thunder Child, of course, is right. The people ultimately in charge are luciferians, and what exactly, precisely is in charge is a luciferian system, period.

If you don't know this, you don't know much at all. Look into SRA for starters. Then learn what links all of the secretive societies. Then look at that fugly star on Izrahole's flag that never had anything to do with David. It did have a lot to do with the satanic Rothschild's door, though.

On another matter, does anyone know how Holder got his come-uppance in government? Why, by covering up the truth about Oklahoma City, of course.

Every single one of I'llbombya's appointments has been a nightmare.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 21:23 | 3558844 AllWorkedUp
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Some of these guys hve you on "auto down vote" because you tell it like it is. This is a non-story, non-event. Good that ZH brought it up but ZH isn't MSM so the story goes nowhere. MSNBC will be on fullblow Obama tommorrow.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 23:23 | 3559146 TheProphet
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You're better than this.

Tue, 05/14/2013 - 01:39 | 3559334 ebear
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I blame society!

Tue, 05/14/2013 - 06:05 | 3559523 Henry Hub
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***It's Bush's fault.***

Actually it is Bush's fault. That evil little fucker started all the police state policies that we are faced with now. Obama has continued and increased them, so he is just as evil.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 21:41 | 3558907 icanhasbailout
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That's pretty much exactly what I expect to happen. First, though, will be a false-flag nerve gas attack on the NYC subways which they are preparing as we speak.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 23:33 | 3559167 The Heart
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"America needs to nuke.....itself!"

They are already preparing for it.:


Mon, 05/13/2013 - 19:22 | 3558488 Raynja
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no one discovered this, no one had evidence of the irs shit, and the benghazi incident was already laid to rest.

so the quesion is, what is happening/happened that is so damning that they are trying to hide it in a pile of shit a foot deep.  they are volunteering incriminating evidence against themselves.


officer: do you have anything on you that i should know about?

suspect: well i got this 20 sack, so you don't need to check the trunk.....

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 20:10 | 3558629 espirit
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[Place] Holder said: "I know what you did last summer".

Yawn (Juan).

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 20:55 | 3558765 FEDbuster
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Keep your eye on the ball in my left hand ......

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 21:26 | 3558853 NoDebt
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Do you think all this shit hitting in rapid succession is coincidence?  Do yout think that's air you're breathing?

NO WAY everything hits the fan like this by random chance.  This is gonna be one HELUVA show they've prepared for us to watch!

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 22:24 | 3559046 Skateboarder
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Everything they ever showed you on TV, it's gonna come true, bitchez.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 23:33 | 3559170 DeadFred
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Mon, 05/13/2013 - 19:38 | 3558527 nmewn
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According to banker boy Senator Schumer there are only TWO branches of government...B &

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 20:18 | 3558659 flacon
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Thanks for that video. I knew Schumer was highly educated but I think even I underestimated just how highly educated. :)

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 21:17 | 3558825 MeMadMax
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The sheeple don't know what the branches of government are(not kidding brah)...

All they see is obama's carefully choreographed, heart stirring speeches, and a bunch of congressional retards saying its the republicans fault....

That's all they know beyond the world of iCrap and the Kardashians.........

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 21:20 | 3558833 Jim in MN
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You're welcome

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 19:28 | 3558506 imapopulistnow
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Who are the 14 "journo" flunkies who prepped Carney for his Friday presser? Inquiring minds want to know.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 19:46 | 3558561 ACP
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@redpill Chris Matthews isn't carrying Obama's water, he's got Obama's sperm bank in his mouth.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 21:18 | 3558828 MeMadMax
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I heard a sex change was in the works too.

First man to have obama's baby!


Mon, 05/13/2013 - 18:03 | 3558197 Frastric
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What? There's WMDs more powerful than pressure cookers?

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 18:28 | 3558306 SilverIsKing
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You didn't obtain phone records of AP reporters by yourself.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 18:49 | 3558366 xtop23
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Hillary's cankles come to mind.

Ollie North 2.0 in ....3...2...1..

Tue, 05/14/2013 - 01:04 | 3559304 James_Cole
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What? There's WMDs more powerful than pressure cookers?

Lol best line on here in a while. 

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 18:20 | 3558203 Normalcy Bias
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I was thinking the same thing. This administration needs another domestic tragedy/distraction. Scary.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 21:22 | 3558841 Jim in MN
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Don't forget the little story about the guy who STOOD NEXT TO OBAMA giving the eulogy for the Waco bomb--er 'splosion--victims being arrested with a pipe bomb.

Did he have it while the Prez was by him?  Duh.  Is anyone at all asking about it?  Double duh.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 23:04 | 3559115 Ident 7777 economy
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Bryce Reed. And he was 'cleared' by security too ... 

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 21:56 | 3558969 XitSam
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Nope. They don't care anymore. They want this publicized. They want everyone to know and be afraid of what they can do.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 18:10 | 3558227 Fuku Ben
Mon, 05/13/2013 - 18:56 | 3558393 LostAtSea
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False flags are no longer needed.  This is in-your-face totalitarianism.  They've learned that "nobody cares".  They've tested the waters, and it is now inviting.


Mon, 05/13/2013 - 19:12 | 3558456 imapopulistnow
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Seriously, it is the MSM's fault.  When you think you can get away with shit, you do a bunch of shit.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 21:06 | 3558785 TuesdayBen
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It is the fault of the citizenry, for wolfing down what the MSM serves without so much as even sniffing it

Shitburger, anyone?

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 22:57 | 3559105 NoDebt
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Can't remember the last president I wasn't sick of by his second term.  This guy takes the cake, though.  I was sick of him 3 months into 2009.  It was the thing with that college professor and the police up in CT, if I recall correctly.  Obama calls out the cops for being idiots but as it turns out it was the lib professor who was in the wrong throughout the whole incident.  Uh oh.  .....And it's been downhill from there.  Chicago asshole needs to go.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 20:37 | 3558709 Freddie
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I think the IRS story and the AP reporters being spied on are to distract everyone from Benghazi. The AP press being spied? BS. They do all of Obama's bidding.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 21:31 | 3558868 Blues Traveler
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Freddie, Freddie, Freddie.

Fuehr Oblunder just put the word out on the street for the media not to carry anymore benghazi stories, Unfortunately, benghazi will dissapear with out question.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 22:12 | 3559018 ChanceIs
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No, no, no.  Benghazi-Gate, Iranian nukes, Syria, IRS-Gate, AP-Gate, are all distractions for the bank holiday coming this Friday after the close.

James Turk, Jim Sinclair et al keep writing that the time to get your wealth out of the banking system was February.  The Euros keep putting legislation in place to seize bank accounts.  Those who follow gold will readily concede that the potential for a bullion bank run - COMEX default - JP Morgan default cannot be discounted.

Just where is Germany's gold anyway?

Dust off that Von Schlieffen plan one more time.  We will get it right this time.  Those French are such decadent wastrels.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 23:45 | 3559196 The Heart
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Everybody has long known the AP is CIA all the way.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 20:40 | 3558716 Freddie
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Dupe post. So junk me.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 20:50 | 3558750 Jim in MN
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Dupe post, or poster?

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 21:33 | 3558871 Jim in MN
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Just kidding, it was a setup man

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 22:22 | 3559037 Room 101
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-1. Per your request.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 21:43 | 3558911 Whatta
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I was thinking this story is the distraction for Bengahzi...or is it a distraction from the IRS scandal,...WTF

Government Gone Wild!!!

We are so totally fuct with this Out Of Control Government.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 17:59 | 3558174 gmrpeabody
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Eric Holder will be all over this like stink on... oh wait.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 19:21 | 3558490 General Decline
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I seem to keep referring to him as Dick Holder.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 21:33 | 3558872 Cornfedbloodstool
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on a N.....ever mind

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 21:34 | 3558874 Jim in MN
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Do not mistake the stink for the shit, grasshopper.


--Kung Fu 2020: Post-Apocalypse Edition

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 19:01 | 3558414 imapopulistnow
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So when, if ever, do we learn who those azzhats were?

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 19:41 | 3558543 Translational Lift
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Yep..........The "independant press" LOLOLOL will still be carring the POTUS water until there is no more.........


Tue, 05/14/2013 - 02:59 | 3559399 dunce
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What i wonder about is normally phone taps require a search warrant.  The reason must be presented to a judge in writing to establish probable cause. Did they get a warrant? Who was the judge that issued it? What was their cause of action? Will they claim a national security or executive privilege exemption?

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 17:57 | 3558162 jbvtme
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are we sure that justice wasn't just tying to track down barry's college records and birth cerificate?

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 18:48 | 3558369 blindman
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you could say that any president that doesn't have a
jack Kennedy moment in the first term has a
Monica Lewinski moment in the oral office in the
second term, I don't know that to be factual but
you could say it; focus and attention , the first
stages in the control process.
this seems like the kind of story that could command
a president's attention and focus for a great deal of time.
maybe amounting to nothing in reality and in the long run
but powerful enough to be used as a lever to derail
any track switching that might be contemplated while the
needs of the country go neglected and taken care of by
lesser wolves in sheep's clothing.
of course you can keep a good man down and keep a
corruptible one even more corrupted, it may not be
the rule but certainly is common enough.
Tweedle Dee Tweedle Dum by Bob Dylan on "Love and Theft"!/search?q=bob+dylan++love+and+theft

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 19:05 | 3558426 NotApplicable
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They make sure all the JFK types are far, far away from the "halls of power."

We know those people by the moniker "unelectable."

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 19:15 | 3558465 jbvtme
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or  by "plane crash/suicide  victims"...

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 20:06 | 3558616 blindman
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speaking of freedom of the press, snooping and
tweedle dum etc..
what is this and why is no one in the media or government
snooping into this seemingly farcical expose. the tibia
weave move with no blood shot is unforgettable, incomprehensible
and if not refuted incontrovertible proof of a staged fraud
with unimaginable yet real consequences.
Boston Bombing Involves Clearly Staged Carnage
False flag theater: Boston bombing involves clearly staged carnage.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 20:15 | 3558646 blindman
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"2010 [edit]

In the 2010 Alice in Wonderland film, Tweedledum and Tweedledee are portrayed by Matt Lucas, whose face was digitally added to the bodies of both Tweedledum and Tweedledee.

In the film, Tweedledum and Tweedledee are the court jesters of the Red Queen, but are secretly part of the resistance that supports the White Queen. Early in the film, they help the White Rabbit lure Alice to Wonderland and later help her escape the Queen's soldiers, but are then caught themselves by the Jubjub bird. They are also shown hitting each other as in the 1951 Disney film. In the video game adaptation of the film, they make infrequent appearances as obstacles. The player must give the duo aid in whatever game they are playing in order to gain a bag of impossible ideas (the game's currency) and some information that will become useful later on.
" wiki

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 23:39 | 3559186 Go Tribe
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Got to buy more ammo.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 17:46 | 3558112 Political_Savage
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Sounds like the gov't was going after 5 reports and 1 editor regarding a terrorist attack and release of information.

DoJ got lazy and trampled the constitution as a short-cut.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 21:19 | 3558829 blindman
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Benghazi Truth: Obama Was Running Secret Army
Committing Treason and Benghazi Murder Cover-up
good luck.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 23:07 | 3559117 Ident 7777 economy
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UR a nut

Tue, 05/14/2013 - 17:12 | 3562230 blindman
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for u.
John Trudell , I'm crazy ?

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 17:47 | 3558118 McMolotov
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I might start communicating solely through carrier pigeon.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 17:53 | 3558149 Ignatius
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Whispers through the village.  This is progress?

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 18:00 | 3558181 TeamDepends
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Mon, 05/13/2013 - 18:07 | 3558218 McMolotov
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+1 for misspelling it the right way, if that makes any sense.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 18:57 | 3558399 Everybodys All ...
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Fo Fo Fo ... Moses Malone.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 21:10 | 3558565 Manthong
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Long string..

and tin cans.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 18:13 | 3558238 Fuku Ben
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They're as extinct as our Constitutional rights

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 18:15 | 3558244 McMolotov
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Another candidate for 3D printing.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 19:25 | 3558503 Raynja
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carrier pidgeon?

its called a drone

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 19:39 | 3558539 HelluvaEngineer
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One of the Internet's most obscure technologies came to life last weekend: transmitting network information by carrier pigeon.

In 1990, David Waitzman wrote RFC 1149, a tongue-in-cheek standard for using pigeons to transfer information using the Internet Protocol (IP). On Saturday, a group of Linux enthusiasts in Bergen, Norway, succeeded in exchanging some data using the Carrier Pigeon Internet Protocol (CPIP).

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 20:25 | 3558674 spine001
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In Argentina, one of the most corrupt Countries in the world, the chief of the cabinet of President Cristina Kirschner, has not one but two full blown messenger piggeons cages...

The local NSA listens to every conversation and use that to futher their hold on the local political system, no privacy laws, no strong institutions to defend freedom at all. So if you think the USA is bad, come to Argentina for a while and watch the future of the US.

Until next time,


Mon, 05/13/2013 - 22:07 | 3559001 thisandthat
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Every country is one of the most corrupt in the world, just some hide it better than others...

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 22:24 | 3559044 Room 101
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Roast squab. Yum!

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 18:39 | 3558345 seek
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"Makes you want to go back to using pagers, pay phones, & burners"

Pay phones are scarces these days.

Crazy as it sounds, I'm better off (and less watched) using a two-way radio with a callsign attached to my name and address than I am a cell phone.

A two way radio can only be located when you transmit down to perhaps 1/4 mile, and only if someone makes the effort to use radio direction finding. This, compared to a cell phone that is constantly sending your GPS-located position to within a few feet to the cell phone provider.

Someone can record you off the air on a two-way radio, but they have to go through the effort of doing so, and they can't actually confirm that it's you transmitting. This compares to a cell phone that's logging every single call and text message, while transmitting a unique electronic serial number to a cell provider that's happy to provide the information to the government without a warrant.

A two-way radio can be turned off, and can't be tampered with remotely, and store no information. Meanwhile, it's been well documented that the cell providers in cooperation with government can remotely turn on the phone, reset the password and download phone contents and hand them over to the government.

Thanks to all this, I came to the conclusion a while ago that I'm better off randomly "forgetting" my phone and bringing ham gear along in case of a breakdown on the road than I am informing on myself. Sure, they've got their cameras and their license plate scanners, but they're not everywhere the way a cell phone signal is. I can only hope somwhere in the bowels of government it's keeping some insane control freak awake at night that they don't know if I'm picking up milk or meeting with a CIA informant leaking Obama's latest fuckup to me.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 19:26 | 3558504 12ToothAssassin
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Theres gotta be a nearly invisible way to foil license plate scanners, any know?

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 20:05 | 3558612 seek
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The Steve Job's loophole route (keep leasing new cars so you never have a plate).

You have to have a license plate, but to my knowledge, there's nothing in the law preventing you from have pictures of license plates or just lots of numbers and letters in a license plate font as decorations on your car. Any police officer would easily know the difference between the plates and the paint job. Robocop, perhaps not.

The license plate scanners used on police cars need a really high contrast image to operate; I've been told (but haven't verified) they use a very bright infrared light + IR camera to get this. IR cut filters pass visible but not infrared light, so one of those in front of the plate might mess with Robocop's head as well.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 23:11 | 3559121 Ident 7777 economy
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to my knowledge, there's nothing in the law preventing you from have pictures of license plates or just lots of numbers and letters in a license plate font as decorations on your car.


heh ...

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 20:40 | 3558722 shovelhead
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James Bond rotating license plates.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 20:28 | 3558687 spine001
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Guys/Gals, if you know how to do it and have the correct access codes, you can listen in to any cell phone anywhere that has a power cell attached, no matter if it is off or on. You can also watch through the two cameras on most smart phones... Not kidding.

Until next time,


Mon, 05/13/2013 - 23:12 | 3559124 Ident 7777 economy
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 if you know how to do it and have the correct access codes, you can listen in to any cell phone anywhere that has a power cell attached


Um ... no.

Tue, 05/14/2013 - 00:44 | 3559271 Herd Redirectio...
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If you look on the back of the a basic scientific calculator from the late 90s, it could be remotely interfered with.  Said so right on the thing.  They have been tracking people's movements via their cell phones for years now.  There was an article about it in Scientific American probably back in 2003 or 04.  Of course they were just using it for scientific purposes, how to improve traffic in Rome, and whatnot...

Not like they would store individual patterns or make inferences from there...  But given sufficient computing power...

Tue, 05/14/2013 - 04:34 | 3559468 Acet
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Sure, with a high-power electromagnetic source I can make your calculator go wild from affar. However, I can't actually control it. (to give you a familiar metaphor, it would be like trying to use a cannon from 10 miles away to play chess, with the chessboard covered so you can't see the pieces).

Mobile phones, on the other hand, are a whole different ballgame: not only are they essentially just 1 or 2 microprocessors with some shit around it, they're designed to be connected to a network that transfers data. It would be a reasonably simple job to design the software that controls a mobile phone so that certain functions can be remotelly activated and to send information to a remote listener - the more powerfull the phone, the easier it is. In fact, with my background in EE and Software Development, I could do it myself.

Thus I have little doubt that modern phones have government mandated backdoors. In fact, considering that they're made in China, I bet they have 2 sets of government mandated backdoors. Similarly, it's been widelly suspected for quite a long time that both Windows and Mac OS (which you probably have on the computer your are using to connect to ZH) have government mandated backdoors.

Tue, 05/14/2013 - 13:27 | 3561228 Ident 7777 economy
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No, no, no and no.


Simple possession of 'credentials' does not guarantee nor recommend positively that you could accomplish any or all the tasks you lay claims about ...

Wed, 05/15/2013 - 06:16 | 3563965 Acet
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I didn't want to go into the details of my expertise in software development in assembly, kernel programming, DSPs and embedded systems - I reckoned that most people here wouldn't even understand half the technical terms, much less be able to even judge my know-how when it comes to such a niche area.

Saying EE and software development was a simplification to make sure that a majority of the audience would get it.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 21:35 | 3558881 Jim in MN
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Space Weather Now...another handy site...R2 radio disruptions going on....

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 19:10 | 3558449 azzhatter
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I do

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 17:51 | 3558138 Ignatius
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Obama does suck donkey cock, but this smells of an elite set up.  Good God, how soon 'we' forget what BushCo got away with.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 18:04 | 3558209 Van Halen
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Bush was a piker compared to this bunch.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 18:27 | 3558303 Ignatius
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They're the same bunch.


Wed, 05/15/2013 - 15:24 | 3565988 mkkby
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So true.

I say fuck AP for acting like the victim here.  The MSM have happily distibuted misinformation that have shred the constitution.  Now they cry foul when if comes back and bites them.  Remember how you ignored and slandered Ron Paul, assholes?

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 18:32 | 3558316 TeamDepends
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That is disparaging towards pikers.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 19:10 | 3558450 Chump
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One is currently the Command in Chief of the United States Armed Forces and has the full force of various acronym police/paramilitary agencies at his disposal.  The other has started to really focus on his painting lately.

No one forgets what Bush did, but you need to get your head on straight.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 19:31 | 3558512 Ignatius
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"...but you need to get your head on straight."

How "Obama sucks donkey cock" can be construed as any kind of support for Obama I'll never know.

When someone -- anyone, any party -- becomes inimicable to elite, corporate interests, they are shown the door.  This is often accomplished by stirring up a scandal.  Is this a scandal? Yes.  But we're looking at a fucking forrest of scandals these last few decades and this, while bad, is not the worst, nor even close.

It's the shit that has become 'legal' the last decade or so that's fucking scary.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 19:53 | 3558579 Chump
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It's sufficient to point out lawlessness and corruption wherever it's found, and since you made the comparison between a former and sitting president you have to take the resulting criticism as well.

If increasing corruption and scandal has become so scary, what good does it do to point to the past as if to say, "sheesh, this here is small potatoes in comparison"?  Nothing but empty words, and that attitude simply contributes to...increasing lawlessness, as each new scandal needs to be even bigger and more improvedTM to be worthy of comment.  Hence the "get your head on straight."

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 20:10 | 3558631 Ignatius
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I don't see where I said not to prosecute this apparent crime.  I'm suggesting that it is a vehicle used to draw attention away from our owners.  We are owned by elite, corporate interests who sit on (or above) multiple corporate boards.  See, I don't believe that 'the democrats' are in charge any more than I believe 'the republicans' are in charge.  That's the point I am making.  You ever notice regardless of who is in office that  the agenda goes forward?  Chew on that awhile, maybe?

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 19:38 | 3558535 Henry Chinaski
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If you haven't figured it out yet Obama is a tool and Holder is the manipulator...

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 22:21 | 3559035 ironsky
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I've wondered myself who's higher on the organization chart of whatever Mexican cartel they're working for.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 17:52 | 3558147 sessinpo
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For goodness sake, everyone but you is a Rothchild, Bilderburg flunky.


Get over it. You are the black sheep of the world and we are all coming for you. LOL.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 20:58 | 3558775 The Thunder Child
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Obvious shill is obvious


Mon, 05/13/2013 - 19:33 | 3558524 Agstacker
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Has ZH gone FULL RETARD?...



Only when you post...

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 20:02 | 3558603 johnnymustardseed
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And George Bush tortured people and nobody gave a shit

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 20:47 | 3558741 knightowl77
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Cuz waterboarding someone, is so much more inhumane than sending a Hellfire missile to kill them and the children standing around them....
Thats why barry got his Nobel Peace prize, for killing peeps instead of waterboarding em

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 20:09 | 3558625 wchild
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Yes, you ARE correct, but in my humble oppinion, that is exactly what makes it "news worthy" here on ZH.  The fact that they are now being exposed for turning on their own.  This is a paranoid bunch... 

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 22:28 | 3559053 XitSam
Mon, 05/13/2013 - 22:52 | 3559098 BeetleBailey
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+100 on

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 17:25 | 3558013 kliguy38
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relax........its long gone....just a facade for sheeple consuption now......pack your bag for your fema camp

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 17:35 | 3558061 TN Jed
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Justice!  Hell yeah! Tonight, I shall celebrate with the entire Lee Greenwood catalog.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 19:45 | 3558556 caShOnlY
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what you think is the messiah may become your antichrist.  They chose unwisely.

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 17:21 | 3557994 FL_Conservative
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It's all ok as long as you're only fucking around with conservatives.

Tue, 05/14/2013 - 04:19 | 3559459 RafterManFMJ
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CONservatives? LOL, where have you seen one of them lately?

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 17:27 | 3558020 McMolotov
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The media are ideologically-driven sycophants. They'll probably circle the wagons and protect Obama because they think he's "one of them." The worst that'll happen is that some fifth-string flunky will get fired.

As for Holder?

Fetch the Comfy Chair! Poke him with the soft cushions!

Mon, 05/13/2013 - 17:58 | 3558166 The Thunder Child
Mon, 05/13/2013 - 17:27 | 3558021 Stoploss
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