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Eric Holder Testimony To House Judiciary Committee: Live Webcast
We present today's main circus event: Eric Holder, Attorney General of the US, who will field questions from assorted members of the House Judiciary Committee chaired by Bob Goodlatte whose career donors can be found here broken down by industry. As a reminder, earlier today we got this: "House Speaker John Boehner wants to know, "Who's going to jail over this scandal?" He's talking about the Internal Revenue Service's targeting of conservative groups for extra scrutiny of their applications for tax-exempt status." We know the answer: nodody.
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Holder's prepared remarks can be found here. Not surprisingly, the concluding issue here is the impact of the sequester on the DOJ and the demand for more funding.
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Holder needs to trim that 'stache in from the sides to go for that "Hitler Look".
BTW, my new favorite thing is watching Carney answer press questions. Squirm motherfucker.
He can leave it like it is. When historians write about the rise of American Fascism his can be the new 'stache of evil.
I think I am ok with this, but can we get them some form of military garb? Something a little less fashionable and more fascistable.
Everyone is wearing a lapel pin flag. Don't they understnad that after the coming civil war people will look at that pin the same way we today look at old news reels of Nazis with swastika lapel pins?
The swastika is a good luck charm dating back 3,000 years. The fucking Nazis ruined it for everyone.
See this is how you lose your symbols. In 20 years we won't be able to show the American flag anymore without risking inprisonment on war crimes.
Why am I the only one gets this?
You aren't, just a bit early.
You're not.
People have a visceral reactions to symbols that reflect an ideology. Note Obama's use of the O symbol to represent 'Hope and Change'. Rather than think about policy decisions or platforms the symbol can represent what the observer reads into it.
Don't watch what we do or examine what we say...Just believe that we represent your ideals.
Joseph Campbell has some insight into the use of symbols in mythology and religion. What is politics if not a philosophy or a belief system to create order in a worldview?
The IRS commissioner was a bush appointee who has tried to resign 3 times but has been unable to because the new head of the IRS Obama appointed has been blocked by the republicans. likw whitewater this is a huge distraction and a big waste of time and energy. next.
I knew you losers would figure out a way to blame it on Bush.
can you give me the info on how the AP stuff is bushes fault? I always get a kick out of the rationalizations.
PAY ATTENTION YOU STUPID FUCK!
The repubs are as threatened by the Tea Parties as the dems. Tea Parties want the government to have less power. Big Politics wants moar power because moar power means more payola, er donations.
Damn skippy!
You'll see McCains, little miss Lindsey, Lugar and Hatchs fingerprints on the IRS fiasco along with the Donkey usual suspects. Betcha betcha.
Makes me wonder if THIS was intended by whoever dropped this. Burn the rhinos along with em. Won't hurt my feelings seeing Yosemite Sam in federal orange...turning big rocks into little rocks.
Leavenworth is prolly much nicer than Hanoi.
One can dream.
That was true in 2006/2007.
Koch sunk ~ $50 mil+ into the Teaparty, and transformed it. You got the GOP bat-shit crazy Religious wing in the 2010 State elections, and ever since the GOP have been wondering how to capitalize on it. Any real Libertarian grassroots parts of the Teaparty were toast so long ago it's not funny.
Full disclosure: I am not American, and so am totally nonpartisan.
Howard Coble can be sent to the iceflows now.
I watched that asshole for 15 seconds and all I could think about is how badly I wish somebody would choke his fucking lights out.
Same here. I could only listen for about 30 seconds.
My revulsion is real, total and physical. I would not walk on the same side of the steet as that useless lying fucker.
I listened to about 5 words from the committee chairman and I was done. Let me know if Holder confessed (/s)
Where do they learn to lie with such sincerity.
Law school.
Nah,
Law school only teaches the fundementals. Like a guitar teacher can show you how it's done, the student needs practice, practice and more practice to excell at the task.
Luckily, lawyers get on the job training.
Stay tuned. Immediately after the hearing, all the woosies in the House are going to line up to lick Holder's boots.
Holder is a lying, Communist POS.
It seems that the Powers are taking down Obama and his administration; thus weakening the Democrat Party. The question is "why"? Is it because the Powers don't want one party to become "too powerful"? They gave the Soviets the nuclear bomb because they didn't want the United States to become the dominant super-world power. Is this what is happening here? Have the Democrats become too haughty and too powerful, and need to be brought down a couple of notches?
I think the worm-hole just opened.
This is not the totalitarian Fascist take-over the elites had in mind.
Their hand-picked candidate will be appearing on stage in a year maybe less. He'll point to Eric Holder in testmony as one of the reasons Americans should throw off their elected government in favor of a selected one.
Obama thought he was doing the right thing listening to his advisors. In a year he'll be learning how very badly he was advised.
It's the other way round. Get all the sh!t out in the open......nothing happens......TPTB can then do whatever they want with absolutely nothing and nobody to rein them in.
I ain't seen a rope-a-dope like this since Ali/Frazier.
Deficits "wots dat?", a role in government is a lead-in to a nice federal prison term, blatant partisanship by everyone but especially career bureaucrats. Day by day, the Federal government in DC looks more like Illinois.
Why would that be?
Not to let this distract from Benghazi too much but you know shit is going south when even MSNBC turns on the Oreo concerning Benghazi.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/05/15/ABC-CNN-Call-For-Whit...
***UPDATE: NBC's senior White House correspondent joined the chorus Wednesday. On his MSNBC show, "The Daily Rundown," Chuck Todd looked into the camera and said, "Attention White House: Release all the emails." The headline has been updated to add NBC.Assuming they are the ones who leaked to CNN an email written by Ben Rhoades (a Deputy National Security Advisor close to the President), the White House might have been too clever by half Tuesday. An act that was obviously meant to pour water on the Benghazi fire started by an ABC News report, has only ended up being gasoline. Now both CNN and ABC have joined conservative media in calling for the White House to release all the emails surrounding the editing of the CIA talking points.
Friday, in a bombshell report that blew the long-simmering Libya scandal wide open and right into the arms of the mainstream media, ABC's Jonathan Karl reported that an email written by Rhoades specifically mentioned the State Department's concerns about the CIA talking points. Here is how Karl transcribed the Rhoades' email:
We must make sure that the talking points reflect all agency equities, including those of the State Department, and we don’t want to undermine the FBI investigation. We thus will work through the talking points tomorrow morning at the Deputies Committee meeting.
Though this point wasn't the main focus of Karl's report, it was important because it showed that the White House was backing State in pushing inconvenient facts out of the talking points -- this included the fact that terrorists were behind the attack and that State had been negligent when it came to providing security for our diplomatic mission.
In the end, as we now all now know, and apparently due to the prodding of Hillary Clinton's right hand woman at State -- Victoria Nuland, the talking points ended up being completely wrong, which resulted in the American people being misled by the Obama Administration, straight through to a speech the President gave at the United Nations almost two weeks after the attack.
Yesterday, though, CNN's Jake Tapper received what he was told by a source is the actual transcript of Rhoades' email, which reads this way:
All –
Sorry to be late to this discussion. We need to resolve this in a way that respects all of the relevant equities, particularly the investigation.
There is a ton of wrong information getting out into the public domain from Congress and people who are not particularly informed. Insofar as we have firmed up assessments that don’t compromise intel or the investigation, we need to have the capability to correct the record, as there are significant policy and messaging ramifications that would flow from a hardened mis-impression.
We can take this up tomorrow morning at deputies.
What is important about this version is that it does not directly mention the State Department, which gives the White House some cover when it comes to its role in shaping the talking points. And whether they leaked the email to Tapper or not, there is no question the White House was excited about the leak. White House spokesman Jay Carney made sure to mention the news of Tapper's report in yesterday's White House briefing.
But things aren’t exactly turning out the way the White House likely hoped.
Though he didn’t see the original Rhoades' email and was reporting off what a source told him the email said, Karl stands by his original reporting:
I asked my original source today to explain the different wording on the Ben Rhodes e-mail, and the fact that the words “State Department” were not included in the e-mail provided to CNN’s Tapper.
This was my source’s response, via e-mail: “WH reply was after a long chain of email about State Dept concerns. So when WH emailer says, take into account all equities, he is talking about the State equities, since that is what the email chain was about.”
Karl then called for the White House to release the full transcripts of the full email chain surrounding the shaping of the CIA talking points:
The White House could still clear up this confusion by releasing the full e-mail transcripts that were provided for brief review by a select number of members of Congress earlier this year. If there’s “no ‘there’ there,” as President Obama himself claimed yesterday, a full release should help his case.
On his verified Twitter account, Tapper quickly agreed and added that, "If there's 'no "there" there,' as POTUS said, [this] shouldnt be a problem."
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Wednesday morning the National Journal's Ron Fournier also agreed:
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Stephen Hayes of The Weekly Standard, who first reported on the Rhoades' email, has been calling for the White House to make these emails available to the media for some time, and added an important point about context Tuesday night:
We don’t know who provided the Ben Rhodes email to CNN, but the leak did not include the earlier emails in the chain among top administration officials. If it had, we would know more about a curious reference on page 20 of the House GOP report. The report describes an email we now know was written by State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland, who wrote to the group that earlier edits to the Benghazi talking points did not “resolve all my issues or those of my building leadership.” And then, according to the House report, Nuland’s email reported “that the Department’s leadership was consulting with [national security staff].’”
Is this characterization from the House report accurate? Did the consultation happen? If so, who in the State Department leadership spoke with the White House’s national security staff? Why weren’t they satisfied with the earlier edits? What were the remaining “issues” with the talking points?
If the goal was to bail Obama out of the brewing Benghazi mess, tactically, whoever released the Rhoades' email to Tapper, just made a huge error.
Now the media wants to see them all.
Why is this relevant because you know the Oreo is going to have Ball Holder and his minions use warrantless wiretapes on CNN now to find out who the leak was all in the name of 'NATIONAL SECURITY'.
Bravo to the Honorable Eric Holder, Jr. for being forthcoming with all the facts. Fuckin kangaroo court.
Apparently it's bring-your-kid-to-work-day today in the House.
If that's "all the facts", then the man's head is empty.
Is Sheila Jackson-Lee really that stupid? Holder's investigation is to DELAY and PREVENT the AP scandal from being resolved. We'll get a report on the AP 1st Amendment violations in 2039, buried in the back appendix of the DC phone book, and writting in Russian using Cyrillic alphabet.
That's how it's done - avoid questions using the "ongoing investigation' excuse, and bury the sterilized report somewhere no one will ever find it, long after the miscreants involved are history and safely buried.
Yep. she is really that stupid.
Sheila Jackson-Lee is the "canary in the coalmine" when it comes to guaging whether or not your country is a banana republic. We used to be treated to her brilliant rants on the radio at least once a week here in Houston. She is way too stupid to be making decisions for her own family, much less for a large part of the country. She is as stupid as that congressman Hank Johnson, the one who thought Guam might capsize. But, she apparently fits in just fine on Capitol Hill, so ...
How did SHEEEEEEEELA get elected in Texas????????????????????
Come on now, Texas has a history of electing idiots.
You're right.....what was I thinking?
hey.........hey.........hey...........doesn"t Issa know he's talking to someone who is above the law????????
What a shit show.
No doubt, brother. Shit show.
I've been to two worlds fairs, a hangin' and a goat fuckin'...but these last two dys has been a sight to see.
Ed for grammar. Language left as is...
We have the DOJ/AP gate scandal, the Benghazi scandal, the Seal team six shootdown stonewall, and the IRS bias scandal all breaking at once. Conservatives including cheney are locking elbows. Why now???
We have had midnight and holiday issued presidential orders issued that defy constitutional limits, with no retaliation. We had Benghazi accusations along with conservative hit ads that were shelved prior to the election that never made the press. Why now?? Why are they dogging obama now?
If you believe as I do that both parties are simply 2 wings on the same bird why is hell raining down on obama now? Why is the public distraction of attacking the administration being created? What slight of hand is about to befall the public perception through the theater that is politics and media??
Was it always the same shit show? At what point did it change? I'll tell you this. Obama is a Marxist and that is now becoming obvious to even the most timid of conservatives.
Obama a Marxist? Wow! He is anything but. No pres has ever supported the corrupt excesses of capitalism more, NONE. Marx would truly be insulted at the suggestion.
This is not capitalism. Very far from it. No more and no less than there is capitalism in China. If you will not accept Marx then think of it as Maosim. The same collectivist that have run the economy of China want to do that here. There is very little difference between Marx and Mao. Obama is a Marxist just like his daddy.
If at all possible, I think what has befallen us progressively throughout the last several presidential administrations is much, much more insidious than maxism or maoism. I won't know how to label it until it is fully manifest and then it will be too late.
For now, Do As Thou Wilt seems to be descriptive.
Oh, he's a Marxist all right. Anybody who knows anything about Obama knows that for certain. He's just playing both sides of the street right now. You need to read your Marx. Something about "giving the capitalists enough rope to hang themselves" ringing any bells?
"Why now?"
This. For my money, this is the question I haven't been able to form in my mind, Paint it red.... Because it sure seems almost all of these pots have been simmering for a while.
You nailed it, as far as the question goes.
Afraid I've got bupkis for answers at the moment.
Because this time they pissed off the liberal media?
This whole shit show with Ball Holder reminds me of the old Carlin quote.
"The real reason that we can't have the Ten Commandments in a courthouse: You cannot post 'Thou shalt not steal,' 'Thou shalt not commit adultery,' and 'Thou shalt not lie' in a building full of lawyers, judges, and politicians. It creates a hostile work environment."
This is exactly what the Saul Alynski's Rules for Radicals teach their cohorts. Obama if not involved directly surely is very much on board. This country is so screwed right now I'm afraid it might be too late. Thanks alot Obama sychophants...
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2013/05/15/reports-irs-spared-liberal-groups-as-tea-party-languished-more-conservative-orgs-targeted-than-first-thought-n1596864
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For me the real scandal is - with all of the unethical lawyers in the world, This is the best the government can afford. Any lawyer is, in essence, a con artist, and this guy couldn't pour pis out of a boot with the directions written on the heel.
It seems apparent that sequestration is causing all the ills in the western world and all problems would be solved by having more money to spend.
Holder is such a good little soldier in the Obama Army.
I could watch more but I'm running out of hair to pull out.
Holder is trying to justify impeding justice by announcing investigations that involve matters Congress is investigating. Jordan was trying to ensure that one of Holder's people, scheduled to appear next week, won't cite Holder's investigation to avoid testimony. Holder basically said Jordan was likely to have just created a reason for evading testimony; essentially, giving NO assurance the witness won't cite Holder's investigation as a reason to avoid testifying to Congress.
Holder does not understand the separation of powers in American government - only his Department has power, can have power, or is justified in using power. Everyone else sucks NO tit - they're just there as Constitutional window-dressing, there for show but not to hold anyone accountable, especially not Holder. Holder feels he has the ability to pre-empt Congress on any matter he wants to, at any time, for any reason.
+100 all that...
And a bonus + 50 for the "sucks NO tit" thing.
Haven't heard that for a long time.
Note to Obama: Lawyers are kleenex, not fine silk hankerchiefs. When they get soiled you just toss 'em. Come on, this stuff isn't hard.
They're like nuclear warheads. They have theirs, so I have mine. Once you use 'em, they fuck everything up.
From the movie "Other People's Money"
Trey Gowdy just brought up the Holder quote that implied that illegal immigrants have a HUMAN and CIVIL RIGHT to citizenship! I hadn't heard this one; it sounds like the Att'y Gen is not only advocating citizenship for law-breakers, but claiming a moral superiority for illegal immigrants!
Imagine that, the highest law enforcement official declaring rights for the lawless that the law doesn't confer. Is there a stronger case for DISMISSAL?
Edit: Now Holder is whining for RESPECT. What respect did Vickie Weaver get? What respect did the women and children of Waco get? How much money is he getting paid to run a department that won't keep records of recusal, won't investigate voter fraud, won't stop hiding behind every excuse available for inaction / misaction / misdirection? Go home, we need an ADULT in your position.
but Eric Holder won't rest until he's found THE REAL GUN-RUNNERS!! :D
I will go to bed tonight with the knowledge that (like all people) some day this piece of shit will die. My prayer before bed tonight will be that he dies a awful, and unending burning hell of a death. Please God answer my prayer.