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The Holder - Issa Smackdown
This was not your grandfather's hearing. The air was thick with partisanship already but when Darrell Issa began by playing audio of Thomas Perez, assistant attorney general for civil rights and President Barack Obama's nominee to become the next Secretary of Labor, in which he confirms that he is arranging for details relating to the St. Paul case not to be disclosed. "Do you think it's appropriate for someone to -- at a federal level -- to try to keep information out in order to disguise what's actually going on?" Issa asked. "There are a whole variety of reasons why people, why we as a government and Justice Department, decide not to become involved in qui tam cases," Holder replied. Holder and Issa went back and forth until Holder lost it... "It is inappropriate and too consistent with the way in which you conduct yourself as a member of Congress," Holder said. "It is unacceptable. It is shameful."
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He's on the team though, I mean, come on..
Issa is shameful.
And Holder who ran 1,500 AR-15s to Mexican drug gangs is...?
Shameful.
Is that like inappropriate rearranging your nutsack under the table when you think nobody else is watching?
Jesus....
all i hear is chimptalk
One big criminal enterprise....
It does kinda remind you of a bunch of monkeys all throwing feces at each other.
Or just feces.
I find you shameful sir........even the mafia has a code of conduct.
I had both my ear's removed, there is an 100% chance I'll be exposed to this dog & pony bullshit in the future..
Fuck you in the ear Eric. ...dickface
The arrogance of this mutherfucker!
Did anyone else catch this shit?
Holder's use Washington Mumbai jumb of not answering the f'ing question is unacceptable.
Transparency, bitchez!
Eric Holder - "I'll look at the request [subpoena] and try to be as responsive as I can."
Yes Toys, don't you get the feeling that that "look at the request" will take place in a stall of the DOJ men's room and the result will be a resounding ker-flush!
Like he hasn't already done that. Subpoenas from congress have no meaning anymore.
You know he's just toying with them for the power play when he says that he hasn't seen it.
Now we can move on to the real issue. Issa is obviously a racist.
Hey Eric! Respond to this you prick-licking pervert! We're going to RAM that Benghazi subpoena so far up your ass that you'll be using it as dental-floss for weeks!
This Criminal needs to be hung upside down, have his throat sliced from ear to ear in front of his other Criminal cohorts & as they watch him drown in his own blood as they wait for the same outcome.
My latest theory is that IRS-gate and AP-gate are due to Benghazi and to a lesser degree on letting go the connected Saudi suspect from first Boston bombing. The traction in both those cases came from whistle blowers and leaks to the press. Then strangely just days later we get the Feds confessing that they have been blatantly abusing their power. "Give us grief and you'll get audited. Leak something to the press and we'll get your phone number or worse. When NOTHING happens to them for the abuses it will have a chilling effect on people who contemplate ratting the regime out. This is a Chicago thug power demonstation like finding a horse head in bed with you. Remember that the feds volunteered the info on what they were doing in both cases.
"Eric Holder - "I'll look at the request [subpoena] and try to be as responsive as I can.",
Yeah, a couple of things stand out about Holder's reply. 1. The obvious disdain he implies by treating a congressional subpoena (which is an order) like it is a polite request that he may or may not deem worthy of his attention. 2. Holder indicates that he hadn't even bothered to read said subpoena, which implies either (another) pass-the-buck lie, or a complete lack of control over his department.
I happen to live just outside of Issa's district, and find him to be a typical political scumbag locally, but I certainly am hoping he actually has some teeth this time.
Eric "Place" Holder is without doubt the worst AG we have ever had, and now he is in the running with Jon Corzine to win the award "The Biggest P.O.S. on Planet Earth."
So many candidates from this Administration...
Wiener/Holder 2016
Holder/Weiner 2016 sounds just as good...
That does sound a little better than Weiner/Holder 2016 but not by much!!!
The key word is "sounds"...
Yes, but how does it feel ? That's important too.
Good point there. We'll have to work that one...
I'd like to see Holder holding Weiner's weiner.
Hold her weiner? Hey, if you're into that kind of thing, who am I to criticize? :-)
The worst AG, no. Precedents set (of which he does have some) are more important than continued. He is up there though.
Partisan tools will of course claim him the worst but that's ignoring history. Ignoring history is very popular on here though.
Pray tell us who is worse. Back up any candidates with logic.
Bwahahahahahahaha! Stepped in that James_Cole, squish!!
John Mitchell?
LOL.
EDIT: Its a joke. Mitchell was a piker compared to this current asshole.
Right. Mitchell could not even imagine the lengths to which the DOJ has gone to subvert the law / Constitution. On NPR we suddenly find Obana supporters gnashing their teeth at the terrible AP for endangering the security of the American people! So it 's come full circle - those who once derided Bush's methods are now openly supporting even worse ones. Talk about intellectual dishonesty.
+100
don't forget,
Alberto R. Gonzales: slimy amoral bullshitting ass-licking mexican douchebag
Endless garbage ags, one of the most infamous:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Mitchell_Palmer
Ah, Woodrow Wilson's guy. Another #Winning!
Palmer did some pretty lousy things but Holder is responsible for many American deaths.
Exactly whose agenda are you pushing here @ ZH James?
He's not pushing agendas, he's just trying to push people's buttons.
He's not pushing agendas, he's just trying to push people's buttons.
People constantly confuse (intentionally and unintentionally) trends with aberrations. When you have an aberration it's fixable.
This binary political thing works so effectively because every step worse can be painted as an aberration as one team is always on hand to claim 'this' particular administration is way out of order suggesting that if you get the other guys in it'll be fixed. Meanwhile, the team on trial can point to the recent past and say 'look at what your guy did!' Goes back and forth forever.
The source of the problem meanwhile escapes unscathed - the source in this case being the office of the AG, not really any particular AG.
Obama's only problem is that he doesn't have an Ollie North to step forward and wrap himself in Old Glory to deflect all of Obutholes detractors.
Liberals need to be convinced to turn against him en masse. There's a lot of grassroots activism that truthfully presents what's going on but the tv news is so incredibly partisan that it effectively obfuscates everything. Everyone (both sides of the aisle + news) benefits from the partisan theatrics, the only loser is the people.
This US propaganda machine is the best of the best so it's hard to compete with, but shit like this (FOIA request) from the 'transparent' Obama regime needs to be more widely distributed:
http://www.aclu.org/files/pdfs/email-content-foia/DOJ%20Crim%20Div%20doc...
"The source of the problem meanwhile escapes unscathed - the source in this case being the office of the AG, not really any particular AG. "
That was one of the creepiest things I've read -- anywhere -- in quite a while.
You appear to be exposing yourself. Again(?)
I disagree, not creepy and cuts throug the red-blue bullshit.
The problem is not WHO is there, the problem is that there is a THERE to begin with.
An office that holds that much power is anathema to liberty, so no matter who holds the office, it is the office that is the problem.
Most do not care how much power the government has, only that their team calls the shots. James is pointing out the underlying problem.
(If I am reading James correctly.)
pods
An office that holds that much power is anathema to liberty
Most do not care how much power the government has, only that their team calls the shots.
This is the point. How often do you see a president scale back the powers their predecssor added to the position? Of course, when their predecessor (as long as they were on the other side) was expanding the office it was oh-so-terrible and unconstitutional.
Exposed as coherent, perhaps. What's creepy is the number of people who fail to understand the evil inherent in any forced collective.
I think Janet Reno still probably has a higher body count than Holder.
Gonzales was some serious competition. Worse? I don't know, how does one grade dog shits?
Onegrades dog shits on how are they are to pick up and throw away mostly.
Gonzales was some serious competition. Worse? I don't know, how does one grade dog shits?
How far they pushed the needle is a good metric (and under that criteria Gonzales is particularly egregious) but it gets too partisan.
I don't know how you overcome the partisan hurdles, but looking back at the history of the office of ag is illuminating.
What is illuminating is your effort to persuade your readers that Holder's behavior is driven by his allegiance to a "political party."
Sir Edwin Meese - had the NG beat the living crap out of Berkely students, used his AG position to push a pipeline deal that netted him millions from Bechtel. Mitchell was arrogant and stupid, Meese is smart and evil. Holder is merely a lacky - and I say that without a hint of racism.
@ James cole I doubt you'll find many partisans here. Truth seekers absoultly,
Huh?
My red-blue bullshit detector is pegged.
Sure it is couched in pointing out the faults of Lando, but is has all the canned responses and keywords of the usual false left-right paradigm.
(not junking you, merely honestly disagreeing)
pods
A couple reasons that I give a bit of time to Issa:
1) if not for his pushing, Benghazi would have been dead. He and pretty much he alone has been driving that, and frankly, regardless if he is on the red or blue team, I am glad he has
2) he isn't a fucking lawyer. He is one of the only guys on the hill who actually started, ran, and built up a successful business. Good
3) he is continuing to push for holder to be held accountable for gun runner. Again, yes he is a red team guy, but someone needs to try to hold this scumbag accountable.
Annnnddddd you're wrong. He is the worst. Hands down.
Until the next one. And the next, and next................
pods
Ya, and it looks like you're not. Jimmyboy
Whos worse?
And, do you and Holder share any physical characteristics that might lead one to think you perhaps voted for jomamma?
It seems like to me that everybody who is in some sort of power, whether in Congress or some exec on Wall Street, they all do one thing very well:
SAYS ONE THING BUT DOES ANOTHER
Its no wonder I never make it big in this world because fuckin religion tells me I should be truthful and honest with everyone.
Give up worrying about the system. Just walk away to the extent that you're able. There isn't a single fucking honest person left in D.C.
It's done. Finished.
Take your chips off the table and let these asshole criminals destroy each other.
You want to see someone prosecuted? Starve the beast and they'll do it themselves. There's no other way.
Evolution at work.
"Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country"
If not now - When...
Pounce!!!
I was in D.C. two years ago. Thought I'd stop in, get a room, and do a little sight seeing. I couldn't hang more that a couple hours it felt so creepy. Police and barricades eveywhere.
Looks like the wheels are starting to come off the Obama Totalitarian Express bus.
Well then, Mr. Evil, you have work to do! Get back and start protecting your "666" buddies! Hey, if I don't see ya in Hell, I'll see ya in FEMA Camp!
Just keep stackin, you can always buy your soul back from the devil or bribe a guard to look the other way when you escape from the American Gulag.
Only if you stack phyzz in the fartbox...
Bribing a guard requires an honest guard. One that won't take the bribe, the rest of the stack and still arrest you. IMO, we are beyond the point of honest guards.
A murderer.
It's not a problem. We know where these guns went.
Perfect. Turn them on each other.
That's how we'll know the end is near - when they start to cannibalize each other. These guys may soon discover they're not in the club they thought they were in.
Two men enter, one man leaves
If only...
Watched this thing live and wasn't dissapointed, t'was as billed.
"People who annoy you..."
Oh, Naggers...
off topic
Internet in Syria again offline -latest news:
http://tersee.com/#q=syria&t=text
Thank you.
I guess Issa can expect to get audited every year for the next few decades?
The source of the problem is Depts. like the IRS with too much power. Power will always end up being abused.
Anyone goes after Issa is going to pay.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Krugel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irv_Rubin
'Famous Arab american's --- U.S Rep. Darrell Issa, U.S. Sen. George J. Mitchell, Ray LaHood etc., etc.,...
http://www.aaiusa.org/pages/famous-arab-americans/
Issa is Lebanese and was brought up Eastern Orthodox Christian. Like Danny Thomas. I just hope he is serious about going after this scum but I am not optimistic.
It does make for good spectacle though.
If he goes after him, Holder will lose his job.
$5 says Holder stays.
"Yeah, that's good, Mr. Law Dog, 'cause law don't go around here."
~Ike Clanton
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Citizens of ZH... Let's settle this once & for all... Let's have a SPELLING CONTEST!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au2YcZPnmMY
Fuck U Eric Holder!
And his nasty wife.
When did it become part of Holder's responsibility, purview or domain to decide how a member of Congress should behave? When someone calls out your subordinate for OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE, and you are the top official in the JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, when did dodging the question become acceptable?
IMPEACH HOLDER. NOW. THEN TRY HIM FOR TREASON.
and then find out about what he signed off for in dealing with mcveigh and nichols in OKC
...or Holder's interference in the Kinston, NC 'non-partisan' election vote. Know your master, bitchezz......!
Better yet, just cut their funding and let them stew in their own tomatos.
If the "Rs" really believed their rhetoric, they'd hold fast at the next CR (I would say budget, but that's so 2007) and close this f-ker down. The Free Shit Army and the MSM will go bonkers, but liberty and justice would exponentially flourish.
But we all know they don't believe their rhetoric because they're just the bad cop to fool us.
it was the same posture johnathan napolitano had with the congressmen asking her about the first guy in boston...(s)he dick-tated to him also....making the structure aware of who is running the show.......
and the chair never stopped him either.....
Don't waste time, just hang him. He's already guilty of being a fuckface.
Impeach Obama and Harry Reid while your at it...
Who gave Harry the info on Mitt Romney's taxes?
Since when does the Leader of the Senate engage in election politics on the Senate floor demanding a candidate disclose his taxes because he has a "reliable source" ? And who is that source?
And what is in Obama's school records, and passport records?
Look, none of those guys are exactly pure, you know. And I bet the IRS has plenty on every single one of them. Its not new for the party in power to use the IRS to give their opponents a headache.
Probably the fact that he's an extraterrestrial alien-human hybrid, or at the very least a Reptilian.
What Holder should have said "You lie how you want to and I will lie how I want to"! BTW...you coming over for dinner tomorrow night? Homey is giving mustache rides!
I CALL FOR A DUEL!
Does this mean that Issa will bring back Fast and Furiuos into the news?
What a fucking cunt. Holder the murderer/gunrunner has the balls to point fingers.
Aggressive arrogant crimnal prick.
Remove this asshole, pronto.
Fuck you Holder. Fuck Obama too.
+ 1
Now that should be engraved on the building where the "Department of Justice" is.
The correct Issa response should have been:
“Listen asshole, you’re already in contempt of Congress, the very body you are sitting in front of. If I had my fucking way, you’d be answering these questions in jail, cocksucker. In fact, I think that’s where you belong.
Sergeant at Arms, arrest this man immediately, and detain him until further notice.
Mr. Attorney General, you are not above the law. Go think about that for a while in jail, while we contact your incompetent boss.”
You're being a little hard on the 'Beave' aren't you Ward?
Bwahahahaha!! (* 50)
Well done, sir!
AssHolder needs a little time in the slammer to “adjust his tone & temperament.”
The Beav wasn’t responsible for killing anyone. Holder (the nation's highest ranking law enforcement officer) is.
Obamanation really is bizarroworld.
Too bad there is no rule of law in this formerly great nation
Keep 'em office so they can own it!
Fuck You Holder. Issa is your boss and so are the taxpayers.
what a fine circus! more bread please!
The Black Racist AG got nailed.
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Long of Popcorn Futures
As per earlier thread, you might want to take popcorn delivery now, might be hard to get before long...
Long Faster and Furiouser Hearings II - did you catch that look Issa shot him? A lot of this is theatre. THAT part wasn't. At all.
Yeah, but what can he do?
These are the same stupid assholes that passed the NDAA and applauded when 'El Douche' signed it into law.
Some of those Repugnant pricks deserve whatever they get in Obama's torture chamber.
Obama's got over three years left, who's to say a few outspoken Republicans don't start disappearing down some festering hole.
The ballsy/hardball move would be to have the House Seargeant at Arms assrest him on the spot. He has that authority.
That would literally be challenging King Obama.
Issa and the other weenies don't have the balls for that.
Its not that they don't have the balls for it, they just haven't received orders to do it from their real masters.
One of these guys (or a citizen) is going to snap. Then its game on.
Boehner & Cantor are quiet, eh?
Pure Evil writes:
"Yeah, but what can he do?"
NDAA might let us send them to Guantanamo... :)
That way we could dress them up as goats and introduce them to their new roomates. It's been a long time since those boys at Camp Gitmo have been able to get a good sniff.
Issa better not drop the ball like Fast and Furious. Benghazi is where Obama can and will be impeached if they have the guts to do it.
+ 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000^10,000,000,000
But, they will likely do jack squat.
But if so it won't be for knowingly aiding and abetting international terrorism, unfortunately...
Time to cut losses.
A strawman purchaser of guns, in order to run them across the Mexican border to gang members, so they would turn up at MURDER SCENES and be traced back to the US, done while holding the office of, chief law enforcement officer of the nation...calling someone elses actions unacceptable & shameful.
Man thats fucking rich...lol.
"Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; truth isn't."
-Mark Twain
They ran the guns to make money for black ops. Come on.
Obama did apologize to the Mexicans that majority of the guns used in the killings in Mexico are from the US. He also apologized for imposing sovereignty on the Mexicans. I infer he thinks we are illegally occupying New Mexico and California.
No, the gringo is illegally occupying Azetlan, which encompasses Texas to Mexifornia and as far north as Washington state.
Various Maps of Azetlan
Lost to Spanish French Spanish French spanish Catholic conquest of Mexico. Long before "the gringos".
Try telling that to La Raza or MEChA, or the fact that the US paid the Mexican government for the Southwest territories after the Mexican-American war.
From Wikipedia:
"The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo specified the major consequence of the war: the forced Mexican Cession of the territories of Alta California and New Mexico to the U.S. in exchange for $15 million. In addition, the United States assumed $3.25 million of debt owed by the Mexican government to U.S. citizens. Mexico accepted the loss of Texas and thereafter cited the Rio Grande as its national border."
That's right, an agreement was reached after war. I hate coyotes and backstabber. We have rule of law, which is why this place is better than Mehico. You break the law you pay. Otherwise they'll be slaving for the nwo. I'm not going to slave for the nwo, or for any sorry clusterfuck of victims and theives like la Raza, the DNC and neoconazis.
Also the American indians have said those maps are bullshit.
LaRaza dosn't mention how Pemex nationalized beaucoup American oil assets not so long ago.
Seems to be the way his mind works.
Now, if he gives up his home in Chicago to the injuns (who "stole it" from another tribe...this starts getting complicated...lol) and forks over the swampland of DC and sics Holder on Dutch assets held in the US (who stole Manhattan for trinkets & blankets)...why then...I'll start thinking of him as a man of integrity & honor ;-)
You're right!
History shows how the Pawnee, Cherokee, Detroit, Crow, Plains and other indian Tribes enjoyed centuries of peace and progress before that Catholic guy from Spain came over!
you say you want a revolution...well you know....we all want to change the world
Shameful? Mr. Holder you and I have a different view of what shameful is. I would say that letting guns get smuggled across the border and used by Mexican drug lords to kill border patrol agents is shameful.
That just shows who the real friends of this Administration are. Dr. Engali, you forgot to mention Jihadists as well. We ought not forget who our friends really are...
And the Oscar goes to ...........
Eric "The Douche" Holder
Uppity, I think, covers it
Now, that's an old southern ray-ciss word meant to hold the poor black folks down on the plantation.
He decided to take a page out of Hillary's play book and go on the offensive. Either that or he just popped - liars and nuts crack under pressure.
Apparently, I have lived too long. I can remember the days when an appointee would never say something like that to an elected in a formal hearing. The mindset of those who run the federal bureaucracies these days is frightening.
That attitude is called "I'm powerful, above the people, President's right hand man. There's nothing you can do to me." And we better see it proved wrong.
An appointed official already in contrempt of the people he is attempting to insult.
Holder is an arrogant, dangerously stupid cunt.
I don't dissagree. But let us be thankful [place] Holders consistent pooch screws will take his boss down.
Just a few more times... then "yer out".
Again. My I submit:
Uppity.
adj. Informal
Taking liberties or assuming airs beyond one's station; presumptuous: "was getting a little uppity and needed to be slapped down" (New York Times).
Why would he NOT hiss and spit at Issa?
When's the last time a conservative really punched back?
Bunch of pussies...except maybe for Sens. Paul, Cruz and Chafez.
Demonize the fact finders, liberal handbook, ad hominem attacks.