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Perhaps instead of "America, The Brave", a more appropriate description of what the USA has become would be (judging by the following chart) "America, The Dependent".
I just crapped my depends!
At first I thought "Gotta be Bush's fault". Then I saw the X axis timeframe of the graph. For sure this is Clinton's fault.
And for all you passionate TA'ers, yes, I am being sarcastic.
I dont wanna get another Warning but HONESTLY HOLY FUCK! Is Daniel Werfel (NEW IRS Chief) another Zionist Cheesepope????
Dunno what a Cheesepope is but if Francis and Otto both uses it, I am fine with that!
You crapped your depends? Jackpot! I'm pretty sure incontrollable bowel makes you eligible for disability. After all, you poor bastard, who would want to hire someone who runs around shitting their pants all the time?
Surely it's not the strict diet of burgers and beer you've been on for the past two years. Surely you should take no responsibility for this terrible fate.
Where does Real Money Benefits come from? The source? BLS? Fed?
Raymond, I believe the bottom line is it comes from US, and goes to THEM via taxes, zirp, .gov benefits, ebts, welfare, foodstamps, theft, medicaid fraud, social security fraud, overpaid federal, state, county, city employees, military contractor theft/fraud, more taxes, overpaid politicians, free money for banks, zero percent interest on legitimate savings, more taxes, dhs, dea, cia, dod, pell grants, affirmative action, more taxes, acorn, israel, foreign aid, more foreign aid, overpriced stawks, inflation, more taxes, fines, regulations, laws, and taxes on my dog. did i fucking miss anything?
I am so distraught from seeing these charts that I am rushing out to apply for mental disability.
Looks like the last president that saw a rise in the ratio of workers to disabled was...Carter!
Now there was a peanut-farming bastard who turned the skrews on the working class, if I ever saw one.
It's the ratio of workers/Galts. You Americans are not as stupid as you think.
It's the ratio of workers/Galts. You Americans are not as stupid as you think.
2 terms for Obama in exchange for a pittance of Welfare? You take that back....
"Galts" - that doesn't mean to you what it means to me. Galts drop out of the system for rugged individualism.
I'm really REALLY surprised that this disability thing isn't more in the mainstream. I'd say pretty much all the alternative topics are generally in the mainstream now. In fact yahoo, sometimes, is faster than Zerohedge at reporting some stuff. However, disability is NEVER talked about.
I personally know NUMEROUS people collecting disability. Shit tons. Some of them sure maybe have some injuries, or some "health things" but to say they're disabled and can't provide any value to anybody? Ridiculous.
Don't worry, inflation will eventually disable them all.
Sorry for idiotic question, what is the unit on the bottom chart Y?
The disability thing is quite depressing. I have a (intentionally) pathetically small set of friends on my CIA dosi- uh-Facebook profile, mostly people I knew in high school, and two go on and on about working with lawyers for a favorable disability ruling due to their tragically acute case case middle age unemployment and lack of desire to work.
I have a mild chronic illness and several years ago my doc at the time said it was a free ride ticket if I wanted to go that route, even though it's nothing that would prevent me from working. One look at the disability stats, particularly past 2008, shows this system is being abused to a great degree.
Ditto that. I know someone still working SS eligable. Atrophy in one hand. He mentioned disability & I asked him----"With 3 more years on your side, do you want to rush medicare since so many doctors are refusing medicare patients"?
I saw an interesting documentary on the rise in disabled workers. It noted that given the huge amount of white collar jobs that have been destroyed, most available jobs nowadays are in the service sector where you have to be on your feet all day. Combine that with the rapidly deteriorating physical health of the average american (for those of us older than 40, when you were growing up, how many adults did you know who had bad knees or bad hips? I remember exactly none), and the fact that many people in the lower middle class and below have to work at least 2 jobs, part of the reality is that some of these people are actually breaking down physically.
Of course, for every legitimate disability case, there are at least a dozen shirkers or scam artists. But still.
I have written this before and it is true.
Where my wife works there is a guy that is legitimately disabled due to a debilitating disease. He is unable to do his job but they can't get him on disability because no one knows how to fill out the paperwork for a real medical condition. The have just been sitting him in a corner because they have too much compassion to cut him loose but he can't do the work.
Bad knees and bad hips are a direct result of FAT America. Two human legs were not designed to carry 300+ lbs. - in flip flops of all things! Ugly feet aside, the load is too much for the supports.
You haven't climbed ladders, poles, done squats & worked 1 ft off the floor 8 hrs a day for 40 yrs.
Actually, you'd be surprised what I do. I don't want to give away my identity, but let me just say that I've climbed some pretty tall structures and can say with 99.999% accuracy that it is much harder than anything the boyz at the Volt plant have done.
Is this a personal attack at me because you've worked hard? Or are you fat? Generally speaking, our nation is fat and lazy. But you are welcome to prove me wrong here......
While I agree with the fat part, you aren't taking into account that grown men/women running for no reason other than "health" is a somewhat new phenomenon. I now a shit ton of healthy older men who aren't overweight, worked desk jobs, and have had two knees. Then you have the ups guys jumping in and out of truck all day, etc. Lots of reasons for blown out knees, sports injuries, fat, overuse, roofing work, etc.
Government made Hoverounds too easy to get.
Yeah, we should overlay a chart of new disability claims with the increase sales of quarter fucking pounders and cheese. Likely exponential... Now then, a quarter pounder with cheese does offer incredible hang over relief, but who is hung over everyday. I know you guys are......:)
instead of drilling down on the poor, why not first address the REAL problem;
an Oligarchically captured gov't that does only their bidding because ALL the policy makers are bought and paid for including the office of POTUS (for several decades now). Once you have your .gov back and pointed to the land of "by the people, for the people". THEN drill down on your unpayable promises to the people.
Order of Operation: it's an equation that has to be solved in the proper sequence, you can't go to the resultant without first addressing the variables.
Articles like this are just NOISE meant to divert attention away from the correct order of operation
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You mean those ones Siragusa's pitching?
I don't follow any sport where the greatest speed achieved is by running on foot and made all the more ridiculous by the use of padding to protect the athlete, so to answer your question, no.
short version; real men play rugby, at least its honest, skull on skull
I think I strained my back looking at the chart...where is the nearest SS office? Oh yeah, maybe I need to call Jack "The Hammer" Cheatum, Esq ... see if I have a case against ZH and Al Gore...I mean if Al hadn't invented the internet and ZH had not posted the chart I would not have had hurt my spine bones, right?
No one ever gets off the D train
...until the train goes over the cliff.
Forward (over the cliff)!
Please send the GPS Cliff coordinates to the Engineer
Train left the station and the Engineer was going to bail out at Pettycoat junction, now you are on your own.
Drivin' that train, high on cocaine (and disability bennies).
I'll just point out the fact that the medical system is leading killer.
They still pimping those pills to cure toenail fungus ? ...what a scam .
That brings up an interesting question...if the pills work, and my toenail fungus is cured, do I have to stop accepting my disability payments? I'm not really an open-toed shoe model, but that's what my attorney told me to put on the form.
I know I feel dis-abled by Bennie and the Feds! Crony capitalism and manipulated medicated markets have disabled a whole lot of people while making everyone sick!
Make everyone dependant upon you, then you can do whatever you want!
Reminds me of the steadly increasing tuition rates. Which are then reduced for some ( via grants) while loans are generously supplied to others. I guess it doesn't occur to academics to reduce cost somehow. And that would reduce the appearance of being nice with the grants and loans anyway. I don't have any real issues with academic scholarships BTW.
People are just doing what they have been shown how to do. People are trying fail since that is the easier route to a relaxed lifestyle. They may not end up being rich, but they are leading lifes of leisure.
I've watched this for a long time. It began when factory and middle class jobs started heading for China. When these workers often 40-50 years of age got pushed out, their job prospects were grim. They quickly latched on to the disability train. Plenty of lawyers work this angle, and I know many in my Rust Belt area who are not yet 60 but have been retired on disability for years. Most are men. Perhaps women will catch on soon.
Disability has replaced the welfare system as the go to government support program. Britian suffers the same type disability claims explosion.
How many double dip into SNAP, I wonder. Man the crash is going to be something to behold.
Word of advice: look poor and disabled yourself. Just because those working now aren't enough to support the system and raft of freeloaders doesn't mean during and after the crash they won't try to increase the burden on the "wealthy" and working.You don't want to be a target in that environment.
I strongly suspect there'll be a number of off-the-books millionaires sitting it out in mobile homes far in the boonies waiting for the crash to blow over for a few years before returning to the good times.
anyone on disability is permanently out of the workforce. Next year the number will go balistic with the health care requirement. Anyone on part time will not be able to afford health insurance. One of the biggest perks of disability (aka middle class welfare) is medicaid.
uno, fewer then 8% of the doctors in my neck of the woods now accept medicaid.....the ERs are gonna be packed I predict since 'no one can be turned away." Bad for people who have legitimate emergenies...they're gonna have to wait with that knife stuck in their gut or clutching their chest with a heart attack....
Finances or spitefulness? Either way, that kind of shortage will eventually result in any medical tourism being looked at as a crime, with surveillance that only the US can bring to the table.
It really is disgusting how shameless, lazy and stupid US citizens have become.
Given the lack of work and willingness to train/retrain these people, they're only responding to incentives.
It might take 2 or 3 years, but any talented disability lawyer can get just about anyone onto SSDI.
I'm applying for SSDI on account of my dick being broken...well, I don't think it's actually broken, but my wife seems to think that it is.
It's the gallows or the woods for you my friend. You shouldn't stand by the window, someone might see you up there.
Bullish for sales of Mobility Scooter and Dunkin Donuts.
Making the people a burden to themselves - brilliant!!!
$550 million for Saturday's Powerball jackpot.
Hmmm, cash option is convertible into over 250,000 oz of gold
Maybe be worth wasting a few devalued fiats on a chance in hell of winning
I am retired. Maybe I should try to be disabled.
the archetype american Ws "free hand of invisible market" icon; who invented the Nasdaq.
The hand that ponzied his son...amongst a few others.
Just push people into disability in order to hide real unemployment figures.
I've got an electrician buddy who had a stroke; result; totally blind in one eye - nearly blind in the other; cant get electical work anymore and has been turned down for disability benefits cause he's not toally blind; go figure;
Your buddy blew it. He was supposed to tell them this: "Because I've had a stroke and one eye has gone blind I have sunk into a deep depression," or "Ever since my eye went blind I see things that aren't there, but I can't tell they're not real." Instant SSI.
He needs a better lawyer.
that chart looks like a good ol' fashioned Pincher play
And the valiant Free Shit Army marches/waddles/rolls/scoots and generally cavorts onward towards victory, taking their rightful place in the seat of honor at The Big Trough Of Plenty.
The gallant FSA utilizes Blitzkrieg tactics as they roll their scooters into Walgreens on a daily basis to pillage the beer isle for cases of Milwaukee's Best.
Did you know that a full case fits right on the floor of the scooter? That way the FSA soldier has hands free to maneuver his battle wagon while checking out with his authorized SNAP card.
I watch from across the street as battle weary FSA soldier returns to home base to meet with FSA rear echelon support troops ( not really sure what their MOS is)They sit on the front lawn with shirts off, homemade tattoos of dragons, skulls and eight balls gleaming in the sun as they drink their well earned beer and smoke authorized FSA cigarettes.
All the while I can feel secure in the knowledge that although I paid for their daily battle campaigns I am supporting True American Heroes - THE FREE SHIT ARMY!
Unpossible! Why? Because, it can't happen here! Greatest country on earth, American exceptionalism, etc. etc. Besides, Obamacare has made healthcare FREE! Or something... That, plus SS benifits, shit, isn't that enough to let the entire population prosper without EVER working again? See? Jobs are irrelevant! Holy crap, all these other benifits are just icing on the cake! FREE money is the wave of the future! Why the fuck our forefathers worked so hard is just a complete mystery, right? Thank you Keynes, in fiat we trust, and God fucking bless!!! USA! USA!!!
Bibi to Putin : NO YOU DON'T :
Putin to Bibi : THOUGH SHIT BOY!
WW3 here we go.
The BRICs have had enough of this shit. Looks like they have drawn a line in the sand. Good.
An evening of warm breeze and that line is gone.
Warm... how warm? 100 000 degree celcius warm?
While Obama sending ships to Israel... and Russia parking 12 ships in the Mediterranean... while Obama and Erdogan say they are working to overthrow Assad... this is gonna end so well...
Not to mention now the BBC is pushing the ``Assad has used chemical weapons, we have proof`` line...
Netanyahu to Putin: Trust me, my illegal attacks on Syria, in flagrant violattion of all international laws and that have killed hundreds, have no chance of triggering war.
Russian media reported that 300 Syrian soldiers had been killed and hundreds more wounded in Sunday’s attacks alone.
When will all this killling end? That answer is not blowing the wind.
Maybe the answer is a hot blonde chick blowing Bibi?
Small price to pay for saving millions of lives.
When will all this killling end?
That answer is not blowing the wind.
-thats actually a nuclear breeze.
Reading this article I just threw my back out........will have to contact insurance company and check the 8000 pages of ObamaCare for the "undocumented immigrant hurt on job" section.
Welcome to the Obana Rebuplic of America.
At least 40% of the 15x left working work for the government anyhow. Hows that gonna pan out?
Everybody's watching the OJ fame. What next.. Judge Ito on Broadway performing Rocky Horror with the Rockettes?
I see food stamp whores everyday at work, ordering lamb shanks, top line steaks, bakery items, pop, junk food and they have the attitude of complete entitlement. I'm sick of it!
The unemployment rate among those on SSI is ZERO.
Doing their part for the statistical good of the economy.
Accumulated, annual welfare benefits now exceed average pay. Forward Comrades!
Most stay in the family business, generation after generation, and each new generation gains even more knowledge and contacts to better game the system.
Nationwide, about 6 percent of the nation’s working-age population receive disability payments from Social Security or Supplemental Security Income (SSI), but some southern and Appalachian states have much higher rates — over 10 percent. This disparity, though, mostly reflects a few key demographic and economic factors:
Some people expect other factors, such as poverty and unemployment rates, to explain the variation of disability rates across states. But statistically, they’re less important than the four factors listed here.
At least their cola raises are guaranteed.
So you want a day off. Let's take a look at what you are asking for. There are 365 days per year available for work. There are 52 weeks per year in which you already have 2 days off per week, leaving 261 days available for work. Since you spend 16 hours each day away fron work, you have used up 170 days, leaving only 91 days available. You spend 30 minutes each day on coffee break which counts for 23 days each year, leaving only 68 days available. With a 1 hour lunch each day, you used up another 46 days, leaving only 22 days available for work. You normally spend 2 days per year on sick leave. This leaves you only 20 days per year available for work. We are off 5 holidays per year, so your available working time is down to 15 days. We generously give 14 days vacation per year which leaves only 1 day available for work.There's no way I'll let you take that day off!
i see you have your cake and eat it too
snap and disability?
I realize this is just a joke but the part about 16 hours per day away from work doesn't reduce the total number of work days, because those hours are spent outside of work anyway. So total work days could be 171, which is still far too few for a country to be truly productive.
ya, that's the problem with Socialism, the people always "front run" the state, accepting disability is a "call bet" on the Socialist ponzi political agenda.
When people demand the benefits they got stuck paying for, the system always collapses, that's the problem with pyramid ponzi schemes, eventually everybody wants the return on their "investments" back.
The disability seekers are just more attuned to their environment, they know the rules better than chumps that work for the state.
There are some times in life, in history, when you are inevitably led to question everything. We live in such times.
In a perverse sort of way, the disability cheats are the smart ones. They understand, even if at a rudimentary level, that it's worth it to ride that train, get free payments, and sit at home watching TV or surfing for porn and making one trip every two weeks to the grocery store to load up. Don't you agree that it beats fighting traffic to continue to go to a dead end job? Or do you guys still believe in that good old fashioned American Protestant work ethic?
What is of course never said is that the disabled are merely conduits that allow profits to continue to flow to banks and corporations, and this allows them to pay the remaining worker serfs their wages. The banks and grocery stores and tv producers are in fact dependent on the disabled!
Thus we come to an understanding about the reality of the way things work in America. The upper crust of banks and corporations exist in a mutual relationship with the disabled, the dependent, the prisoners. At the absolute bottom of the socioeconomic hierarchy are all of the people actually doing productive work.
The reason why it's difficult to accept this is because it goes against everything you were told and taught. The mind rebels. It is a very hard, perhaps impossible thing, to admit that you did the right thing and were taken advantage of. Why? Because then you have to admit you were the sucker, and you don't want to admit you were the sucker, you would rather think of yourself as a "hero", noble, honorable, patriotic, ethical, responsible, hard working. Because that is what gives your life meaning, and the structures of society are organized to keep you believing this.
For me personally, I've admitted I was the sucker and I've internalized that. So I now have to look for other sources of meaning, and, it's tough but it can be done.
sometimes i feel like dagny
All this redistribution has another fun effect: inflation. Since you're giving away pieces of the finite pie to people who are no longer doing anything to grow said pie, everyone gets less pie.
Perhaps you meant "everyone who is working or independently retired gets less pie." Those on disability get more pie than they would otherwise. Considering the gracious extension of Medicare to people who fake disability, their pie eating is substantial.
Hunger Games says it all:
Hammish: They'll put all kinds of things right in the front, right at the mouth of the Cornucopia.... There'll be a bow too....It's a bloodbath. They are trying to pull you in. That's not your game. You turn, run, and find high ground.
what happens when the ratio is inverted 2 disabled slobs to one "productive" worker (aka facebukking goldbrick)?
Wow, so this problem was Nixon's fault?
Is the chart a reflection of more peopleclaiming disability or just fewer people being counted on the working side of the equation....or a combination of the 2??? When the chart refers to "Full Time Workers" are they counting in contractorsand part time workers?
One 0f 9 people in wv on ssdi
One in 5 on food stamps.
One in 5 student loans 3 months behind
Summer of recovery 4 rocks on
So this is what all those young ladies are talking about when they say they want the "D"??
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