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In Diplomatic Escalation, Russia Publicly Exposes The CIA Station Chief In Moscow

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Earlier this week, the CIA's Russian outpost was deeply humiliated when (in a calculated move following accusations that the US had not gotten appropriate Russian information on the two Boston bombers, and following the visit of John Kerry whose primary objective was to, unsuccessfully, get Russia to relent on Syria) Russia's FSB exposed and broadcast on live TV the arrest of its agents caught while attempting to recruit a Russian spy.  Back then we suggested to "expect a prompt retaliation by the US" however it turns out Russia was not nearly done with embarrassing the US in what is becoming an obvious campaign to humiliate the US intelligence service, this time by going where very few clandestine operations go, at least during peacetime detente: by publicly exposing the head counterparty US spy. As Telegraph reports, "Russia's Federal Security Service has publicly revealed the identity of a man it calls the CIA station chief in Moscow, in what experts say is a serious breach of intelligence protocol."

Speaking to Russian media about the recent capture of an alleged CIA spy in a wig in Moscow, an FSB spokesman named the CIA "rezident", or station chief, in the capital.

 

A diplomat of the same name is listed as a Counsellor in the US Moscow embassy in the autumn-winter 2012-13 edition of a directory of foreign diplomatic, media and business offices in the city.

With tensions between the US and Russia already at high levels, and with both countries having sent naval support in the vicinity of Syria which is increasingly looking like the next powder keg, the US will not be happy with this dramatic and unexpected escalation in diplomatic warfare:

The naming of the top CIA figure working in Russia is likely to provoke an angry response in Washington, and damage important bilateral links in the struggle against global terrorism.

 

It is common practise for US and Russian intelligence agencies to identify to each other their top officials in their respective embassies, but they are not identified publicly.

 

The exposure appears to be a calculated snub to Washington, a month after the two countries agreed to share intelligence over the Boston Marathon bombing, which was allegedly carried out by two men with roots in Russia's North Caucasus region.

RT has more on the official statement:

As early as by autumn 2011, the FSB was aware that the CIA was pursuing a goal to get an informer within the Russian special services, the agent told RT.

 

“Those were not one-off events, which caused our concern,” the operative pointed out. “Therefore, we decided to warn our American colleagues and ask them to stop these activities.”

 

At a time, the FSB did not make public any information they knew about the CIA operations in Moscow, but held a meeting with the head of their station’s chief in Moscow, Stephen Holmes.

 

“We hoped our American colleagues would hear us, given that we also presented to them precise information about CIA officers making recruitment attempts in Moscow and who exactly was doing that,” the source added.

 

In particular, back then, the FSB named such American agents as Benjamin Dillon, third secretary of the American Embassy in Moscow. Last year, “Dillon got into the same story as Fogle” and was expelled from Russia in January, the source said. 

 

Hoping that the CIA would make necessary conclusions from the incident, we did not make that case public,” he said. Apparently, the Americans did not appreciate the FSB’s “correct attitude towards professional ethics.”

 

The FSB was aware that Ryan Fogle worked for the CIA since his arrival in Moscow in April 2011. Russian intelligence, “keeps an eye on” representatives of all foreign special services and the American intelligence agency is no exception to the rule, the source noted.

 

“The point of such an approach is to terminate all possible actions by foreign intelligence that could pose a threat to Russia’s security,” the operative said. “This, certainly, does not refer to diplomats who do their duties on behalf of the US State Department.”

Curiously, and hinting that this action was in response to recent escalations in Syria, the language used by Russia was a carbon copy replica of that used by Obama recently to decry Syrian use of chemical weapons, which is the populist lynchpin of the US narrative in obtaining public support for eventual military escalation:

An FSB spokesman told the Interfax news agency on Friday that the US had "crossed a red line" with Mr Fogle's actions, because the CIA had already been warned to stop trying to recruit Russian citizens.

 

"In October 2011, the FSB officially warned the station chief of the CIA in Moscow, ...... that in the case of continuing provocative recruitment actions with regard to employees of the Russian special services, the FSB would take symmetrical actions with regard to CIA officers," the spokesman said.

 

A spokesman for the US embassy in Moscow was not immediately available for comment on Friday afternoon.

Just like Israel continues to bombard Syria without any consequences, so Russia continues to use the US State Department as a punching bag without fear of retaliation.

Will the US continue taking it, or will it, as the Telegraph suggests, "provoke an angry response in Washington, and damage important bilateral links..." And how long until Israel conducts another overnight raid in Syria, only this time a Syria which as the NYT reported has now received advanced Russian Yahkonts missiles whose main difference from all prior Syrian armaments is that they are outfitted with "offensive radar" and can be used for more than just self-defense.

Unlike Scud and other longer-range surface-to-surface missiles that the Assad government has used against opposition forces, the Yakhont antiship missile system provides the Syrian military a formidable weapon to counter any effort by international forces to reinforce Syrian opposition fighters by imposing a naval embargo, establishing a no-fly zone or carrying out limited airstrikes.

So with Israel suddenly facing the prospect of actual casualties should it engage in more air raids over Syrian airspace, just what avenues are left for telegraphing superiority and supremacy in the latest middle eastern hotbed of future escalation? Or does this mean the days of foreplay are over.

 

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Tue, 05/21/2013 - 16:07 | 3585246 MeelionDollerBogus
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The guy looks like Mr. Bean of the CIA. They were probably laughing too hard to aim the snips properly and just gave up.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 14:50 | 3573720 loveyajimbo
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Hard to humiliate a President who is already widely considered to be a clown and a laughingstock...  Bad day for the muslim brotherhood...

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 14:51 | 3573724 venturen
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Well Russia, our Oligarch(wall Street, Buffet, Pritzker) are richer and more corrupt than your oligarchs!!! So There! 

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 14:53 | 3573733 exodus11
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What's the big deal? All anyone has to do to get the names of C##@I__A covert workers is pull up a list of all positions in all USA embassies around the world and there you have it. The list of C@($I..A fools.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 14:56 | 3573738 JR
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It isn’t Qatar (or Russia) that is pulling the strings in Syria as the Financial Times claims; it is Israel. When the US Empire makes its move it can count on Qatar to be there. And when Israel makes a move it can count on the US to be there. Translation: Qatar's power and influence can be translated as Israeli power and influence.

“Americans can either confront the ugly realities of what has been going on for the past twelve years or they can pretend that what they are seeing is not really there. The gatekeepers are understandably concerned lest Washington’s next war be blamed on American Jews so it is far better to suggest against all evidence that Israel is a pawn of American imperialism or that recent wars have been about oil or capitalist exploitation. The reality is that if progressives (and the rest of us) really want to stop a proxy war against Syria followed by a catastrophic conflict with Iran we have to take the blinkers off and be willing to confront Jewish groups like AIPAC and the ADL directly and persistently.”

That's how Philip Giraldi concludes his column, “Gatekeeping for Zion,” on May 9 on Antiwar.com.

But says Giraldi, the groupthink: “Instead of biting the bullet and confronting the fact that it is leading Jewish organizations and their in-the-pocket politicians that have quite plausibly been the sine qua non in unleashing a series of actual and impending wars against the Muslim world, they instead sometimes serve as gatekeepers to frame and divert an uncomfortable truth while looking for alternative explanations. …

"This approach largely exonerates Israel from actual blame for what it does and it also by extension minimizes the role of the Jewish groups that constitute the core of the pro-Israel lobby because it is claimed that Washington drives the Israeli government’s behavior based on its own self-interest not vice versa. As a result, the critics seldom question the legitimacy of the self-defined Jewish state...

 Making the case that “the United States government is no  free agent when it comes to Middle Eastern policy,” Giraldi then lays bare the position of America’s “commander in chief”:

“President Obama recognizes the power represented by Jewish groups acting as a cohesive and focused political entity when he meets with them collectively in the White House, so why the reluctance in recognizing and confronting their persistent pro-war, pro-intervention agenda?

“At a March 7th session, shortly before his trip to Israel, Obama met with a Ma Alan Solow, Lee Rosenberg and Michael Kassen of AIPAC; Barry Curtiss-Lusher of the Anti-Defamation League; David Harris of the American Jewish Committee; Jerry Silverman of Jewish Federations of North America; Harvard Professor Alan Dershowitz; former Congressman Robert Wexler; Dan Mariaschin of B’nai B’rith; Malcolm Hoenlein, executive vice chairman of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations; Jeremy Ben-Ami, executive director of J Street; and Rabbi Marvin Hier, dean and founder of the Simon Wiesenthal Center. Admittedly the linking of Jewish organizations’ easy access to policymakers with their possible role in launching a string of failed wars in Asia and still more in the offing on behalf of Israel makes many people uncomfortable because it invites the dual loyalty critique and even more extreme commentary that is ultimately racist in nature, but there you have it.

The president knows who is pulling his strings and so should the rest of us.”

http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2013/05/09/gatekeeping-for-zion-2/print/

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 15:12 | 3573770 Aurora Ex Machina
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One data point people seem to miss when discussing Russia / Israel: ~15% of Israelis are originally Russian, and indeed Russian is basically the third language, they vote largely as a block (ultra-Right wing, to a large degree) and have some interesting connections to grey / black money.

 

If you miss this, you miss a lot of the Russian <> Israeli dynamic.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 16:49 | 3574147 Jorgen
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Regarding the 15% of Russian Israelis: there were tens of millions of German Americans in the U.S. during WW2 and this did not stop the U.S. to declare war on Germany and to carpet bomb German cities. I am not implying that Russia is going to attack Israel any time soon. Imho, they mind their business in Syria and will do whatever it takes to preserve the pro-Russian government there. Some IDF or IAF soldiers may be killed with Russian weapons sold to Syria, or even directly by Russian special forces helping Assad, but I don't think this is something that makes Russian generals losing their sleep at night.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 17:41 | 3574290 Aurora Ex Machina
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Their voting patterns are fundamental to the Hawks in the Likud; anti-Russian stances would be as unlikely as the GOP not supporting Israel while aware of AIPAC. (Although, that said, Putin is probably not popular, I've not researched the vox populi on the topic).

 

Putin is probably well aware of the ties between Israel, Georgia and Moscow. *ahem*

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 17:49 | 3574381 Kayman
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Jorgen

Hitler declared war on America; Roosevelt wouldn't/ couldn't enter the European war until then.

As to carpet bombing, the dropping a bomb into pickle barrel was all Hollywood. Generally, dumping bombs anywhere in a city was usually achievable.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 23:05 | 3574459 Jorgen
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"Hitler declared war on America; Roosevelt wouldn't/ couldn't enter the European war until then."

You are correct that formally, it was Hitler who declared war on the U.S. in solidarity with Japan. However, U.S. had already been participating in the war operations supporting Britain, even though at that time, officially, America had been 'neutral'.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 20:08 | 3574718 Henry Hub
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***Generally, dumping bombs anywhere in a city was usually achievable.***

I should say so. Dresden was a city with no military targets of any kind. No war manufacturing, and few troops. People from all over Germany sent their children there to be safe. The Allies (Britain & U.S.) firer bombed it near the end of the war. Approximately 100 thousand people burned to death, mostly women and children. A real war crime who's story has been suppressed in the U.S.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 18:08 | 3574436 The Heart
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"I am not implying that Russia is going to attack Israel any time soon."

True this for now, but the way the geo-political picture show is going right now with all the phony-baloneyism on the information highway, ludicrous fraud in these cover-ups, and the atrocious corruption of a rouge puppet-nation gone wild, the ongoing agenda in the works now will take place. Eventually, Russia will be set up to wipe isreal off the map and everybody knows that. If the people of Israel knew this was happening, is going to happen, and will happen IF they do not stop the madness of constant hate, deceptions to start this coming world war, and the out of control leader-puppets that are owned by the rottenchid banksters, then this will certainly all manifest. That you can take to the defunct bank!

Question is, will this go down as planed and only the devil in the details remains to be seen? Or, can the good people of Israel get it together to STOP this insanity and their certain demise? Truly, time tells all things. Let us all hope and pray that all this does not come to pass as it is all set up to happen. To be a conscious caring humanitarian is getting harder and harder to be in the face of the pure insane and blatant criminalization of a babylonina govt. The corruption is so dark, sticky, and nasty, it pours like pickled molasses on a cold October morning.

May sanity and the Rule of Peace finds it's Way.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 15:33 | 3573912 ITrustMyGut
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thanks JR.. geat info to share here.. ans yes.. truth.

Sat, 05/18/2013 - 02:34 | 3575342 Andy Lewis
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Chickenshit bullshit.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 14:59 | 3573755 Chaos_Theory
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Question for the non-US posters (to Expats too):

In the U.S., the media in general portray Obama in a very positive light.  Key words probably being "measured, thoughtful, intelligent, strong anti-terror, multilateral, adult, cares about the average citizen."  I am curious how he is portrayed by the media in other nations, especially non-English ones.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 16:09 | 3574064 MxBonanza
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Stupid Mexicans love him. And that is the majority.

When he visited Mexico weeks ago, he was treated like a celebrity. Brainless journalists were impressed by his big airplane and entourage. Especially by his limo, repeating endlessly some factoids about "the beast" ->¡Laaa Beeestiaaa! In reporter's spanish

For the US press, the visit was a non event, it did not exist, for Mexican media it was some bizarre extasis. They looove Obama.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 15:01 | 3573761 Aurora Ex Machina
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The USA has just announced 20 more years of "War on Terror".

You'll want to watch this (yes, I know the hosting site is Democracy Now, and left leaning, but it's purely feed) as an Independent Congressman basically lays it out that The Republic no longer has control over military action. It's not new to most, but if you still have faith in "the power of the people", you probably should watch it.

 

They specifically mention East Africa.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 15:30 | 3573897 Clycntct
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Oh goody I was getting so tired of that war on drugs.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 16:19 | 3574121 optimator
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We're still fighting LBJ's "War on Poverty".

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 17:52 | 3574393 Kayman
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More and more Americans are getting poorer and poorer, so I guess the war on Poverty will soon be won. The objective was to make everyone equally poor... No ???

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 18:12 | 3574446 knukles
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Be equally poor and miserable
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Fri, 05/17/2013 - 20:45 | 3574808 TheObsoleteMan
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Thats what socialism does.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 16:03 | 3585228 MeelionDollerBogus
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No one here is using socialism. Socialism requires that the people collectively own the means of production. Instead you have Fascism where corporations are your government. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ml7-aDXrgQ ">It’s the Mussolini blueprint.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 20:19 | 3574745 Henry Hub
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***We're still fighting LBJ's "War on Poverty".***

 

I joined the war on poverty a log time ago. I shot a beggar.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 15:03 | 3573762 ebworthen
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The Bear is not happy.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 18:17 | 3574455 knukles
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Looks more to me like the Bear is doing one of those drinking games like "Hi Bob" where every time somebody said Hi Bob on this Old House everybody had to take a shot of booze

Putin and the guys are playing "Oh fuck me"
Every time the Russian Ambassador calls Moscow and says that was an "Oh fuck me" moment of Obumba, everybody takes a shot of Vodka and you know how much those crazy Russians love to drink

And the drunker they get the more petty and insulting the shit becomes.
Betcha the O sends Kerry back to ask them to "Please be nice because after all it is his second term in office and he has more flexibility*"

* Remember he told them that?  "Chill Mofo, I'm be havin' more good shit fo yo ass later..."

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 16:18 | 3573764 optimator
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Eighty Billion a year we spend on itel -- and that's the best wig they can buy an agent?  Unmasked on LIVE TV!   I think we'll have the only President that was ever laughed out of office!

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 20:21 | 3574751 Henry Hub
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***only President that was ever laughed out of office!***

Bush comes first then Obummer.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 15:03 | 3573766 falak pema
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the russian revival, politically unstable and temporary but with a strong RM base, is one of the enigmas of tomorrow.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 15:30 | 3573893 Eally Ucked
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Why it's unstable to you? Which western govs are stable now?

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 16:06 | 3574047 falak pema
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none, but they have a long democratic tradition which russia lacks...its called inertial momentum or roots of civilization. 

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 16:39 | 3574209 Eally Ucked
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Are we talking here about cliches? Or "inertial momentum" which does not have the same meaning as "roots of civilization". Sorry I'm retarded

 

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 18:19 | 3574458 knukles
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Hey, Russia's got a fine tradition of Reign by Terror!

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 22:54 | 3575101 Anusocracy
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I look at trend lines in countries.

They're usually resistant to being reversed and may be representative of the population. 

Like in most Western nations.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 15:05 | 3573772 monad
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This is circus.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 15:22 | 3573858 TheObsoleteMan
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Good for the Russians.  This administration not only deserves to be humiliated, but it NEEDS TO BE HUMILIATED. These SOBs can't do anything right, much less protect the public. Either they are complete amateurs or they don't give a shit. They are more dangerous to us than the Taliban and al Quada put together. They bungle every thing they do. And this is what the American people have chosen for leadership? You reap what you sow.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 15:41 | 3573939 knukles
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Seems to me I'm reaping, harvesting and handing all my shit over to somebody else I had no choice in the sowing of....

Sat, 05/18/2013 - 10:06 | 3575630 el Gallinazo
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ObsoleteMan

They are the "Taliban and al Quada put together," plus, of course, a lot more.  Those two are both just puppet front groups for the USA shadow government's long term agenda.  They don't even try to hide it any more.  The so-called rebels in both Libya and Syria are both openly al Quada operatives yet armed, moneyed, and supported by NATO and the Banking Cartel.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 15:26 | 3573868 Kreditanstalt
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But The Telegraph's conclusion is such ridiculous propaganda...

   "The naming of the top CIA figure working in Russia is likely to provoke an angry response in Washington, and damage important bilateral links in the struggle against global terrorism."

"Terrorism"?  WTF?  THAT'S what they're there for?? 

Is The Telegraph being spoon-fed this bullshit?

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 15:45 | 3573957 Things that go bump
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Apparently, they too benefit from unending war against a phantom and largely imaginary enemy.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 17:09 | 3574298 Aurora Ex Machina
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The Telegraph is know to put forward the M i 6 agenda, much the same as certain US papers have 3 letter agency "contacts".

 

It's not news to anyone.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 23:52 | 3575207 Curiously_Crazy
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:)

Reminded me of Yes Minister:

 

Hacker: Don't tell me about the press. I know exactly who reads the papers: the Daily Mirror is read by people who think they run the country; The Guardian is read by people who think they ought to run the country; The Times is read by people who actually do run the country; the Daily Mail is read by the wives of the people who run the country; the Financial Times is read by people who own the country; The Morning Star is read by people who think the country ought to be run by another country; and The Daily Telegraph is read by people who think it is.

Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, what about the people who read The Sun?

Bernard: Sun readers don't care who runs the country, as long as she's got big tits.

Sat, 05/18/2013 - 11:37 | 3575773 Aurora Ex Machina
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As amusing as this is, it's also wildly out of date; quaint even. It's no longer accurate and hasn't been for 30 years or so.

Look into Murdoch owning the Sun and switching to supporting Blair for one example of how Murdoch shifted the power balance within the UK press.

And Blair: never forget he was a junior shadow minister for finance (or similar position; covering The City at least) in the '87 crash, appeared on TV, then went to Bilderberg, took the party leadership after the old working class lefty leader had had an unfortunate heart attack, took the lead in a power deal with Brown (infamous curry house deal, I think it was), gets Press support from Murdoch, sweeps to power and so on and so forth and the Iraq war is a go (even after 2 million people marched against it, and they even promised a plebiscite on the matter at one point). He's now Godfather to one of Murdoch's children, and was present at the Baptism on the banks of the river Jordan (along with a glut of other A list stars, such as Nicole Kidman).

You might want to look up Robin Cook and his unfortunate heart attack if you think UK politics is any safer than US politics. "In a column for the Guardian four weeks before his death, Cook caused a stir when he described Al-Qaeda as a product of a western intelligence"[wiki]. 

 

Power. Wery wery tricky to play that game if you want to deviate from the Party line.

Sun, 05/19/2013 - 02:17 | 3577367 Curiously_Crazy
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"... if you think UK politics is any safer than US politics."

 

Not in the slightest mate. I'm a cynical old fart who has seen way to much to even consider the idea that UK politics differs in any considerable way given they are both controlled by the same strings in the end - but that goes with politics in general. Thanks for the heads up on Cook though it's something I'd missed (there is only so much reading one can do in a day). 

I do still enjoy watching the Yes Minister/Primeminister series every now and again though because irrespective of how old and 'qaint' you may find it there is still a lot of truth in the humour.

Cheers..

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 15:52 | 3573950 lolmao500
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ISRAELI SPECIAL FORCES CROSSING INTO #SYRIA, FOX NEWS VIDEO SHOWS

https://video.foxnews.com/v/video-embed.html?video_id=2387678544001

Home front report: High likelihood of chemical terror

Internal report obtained by Ynet points to 'high probability' of chemical terror, says there would be no warning. Gas masks shortage is 'critical,' could harm citizens' resilience and confidence'

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4380579,00.html

Israel might strike Syria again soon, report says   The Wall Street Journal late Thursday cited US officials as saying that Israel could strike a weapon shipment from Syria to Hezbollah “in the near future.” 

 “Israeli and Western intelligence services believe [Yakhont] missiles, which have been sold by Russia to Syria in recent years, could be transferred to the militant Hezbollah group within days,” the US daily reported.

https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/mena/israel-might-strike-syria-again-soon-re...

CIA chief John Brennan in Israel on mystery stop

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/17/cia-chief-john-brennan-i...

The Lebanese news website Elnashra reported that Israeli Air Force planes have been circling at low altitude above the Lebanese villages of Bint Jbeil, Marjayoun, Tebnine and Tufah since Friday morning.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4380876,00.html

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 21:45 | 3574105 besnook
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putin has gone full fuck you on the usa. this is funnier than kruschev pounding his shoe on the podium. those pussy idf soldiers will refuse combat if someone shoots back at them. nutandyahoo is probably screaming at obama to send the marines or they will release the photos of barry smoking pot while a young man is smoking his pole.

on a serious note. the current wave of bad news from benghazi to the irs to the doj was not a coincidence. the butt boys of israel on both sides of the aisle have been given their orders to hound barry until he does what the asswipe of a country, israel, wants him to do. ww3, bitchez! game on!

 

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 16:19 | 3574127 XitSam
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Remember when Obama told Putin that he would have more flexibility in his second term?

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 17:57 | 3574405 Kayman
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From a headlock to a liplock in one election. Now that's what I call flexibiltiy.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 16:24 | 3574148 shovelhead
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"In other news today, Vladimir Putin, angered over the US response to the Embassy spy scandal has outed Barak Obama as a Soviet era sleeper agent of Moscow."

"Putin claims, 'Honestly, he was so useless, we had forgotten about him.'"

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 16:34 | 3574174 Jack Burton
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The writer has his missiles badly mixed up. But I think it is easy enough to google systems and get the correct information. In any case, the missile that Israel fears is the anti aircraft S-300, mobile and defended by shorter range Tor missile systems. The two can operate together to allow Tor to defend the mobile launchers against attack while S-300 does the business of engaging Israeli planes at long range.

The Russian Iskander surface to surface missile is also mobile and defended by Tor. It can take out targets at long range and are meant to replace conventional air strikes. Just the weapon Assad needs to deter Israeli ground attack.

The Russian anti shipping missiles, mobile as well, are just icing on the cake as Israel likes to use surface ships for bombardments, as in Lebanon war.

These 4 missile systems, if integrated into a Syrian defense network, has potential to not defeat Israeli forces, but to make their attacks so costly that Israel backs away from serious air and ground intervention in Syria.

All depends on how serious Russia is about getting these systems into Syrian hands. It is reported in Russian media that Syrian troops have been pre trained in Russia to operate the systems and would return with them to be operational at once. Also, Russia does not hide that their technical troops man Syrian air defenses. Word is that Syria has not even used or switched on it's defense systems. Many of which are now passive, thus immune to anti radition missiles. It is expected that all system go on line ONLY when Israel or NATO go ALL IN in an air or ground attack.

The spy scandal broke earlier than this. This latest guy is number three in recent months. The last one was caught and removed without Russia going to the press about it, as a favor to Obama and the CIA. Now they are madder than hell because CIA went right back to it after being given grace over the previous two.  If you are FSB and planning to turn on Russia, be aware, you will get caught. FSB will not be kind to you when you are caught, can you spend those millions the CIA hands out when you are in hell?

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 16:48 | 3574243 besnook
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it was reported somewhere that russians were on the ground ready to "coach" the syrians on the use of the missile batteries. russia and china warned the usa nad israel syria was the line in the sand. barry gets it. nutandyahoo doesn't.  israel is boxed in with the sea at its back.

in my dreams i see a dunkirk evacuation to cyprus as hezbollah, syria and egypt push the europeans to the sea and onto fishing boats from all over the med with captains on megaphones calling for the highest bidder and the crew enforcing a selective boarding procedure with ak47s. it would make great video for the 6 o'clock msm news.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 17:27 | 3574337 lolmao500
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And to those who say that Russian anti-air systems are crap... Guess what, Israel never really confronted them...

When they bombed Syria earlier this month and in April... they never entered Syrian airspace... they went supersonic over the Meditenerranean and then dropped their small diameter bomb (60 nautical miles/110 km range) from Israeli airspace.

The bombing of the ``nuke site`` in September 2007... The command and control system was hacked... meaning the authority to shoot down the Israeli aircrafts never made it to the ground crews.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 23:22 | 3575113 Element
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" ... All depends on how serious Russia is about getting these systems into Syrian hands. It is reported in Russian media that Syrian troops have been pre trained in Russia to operate the systems and would return with them to be operational at once. ..."

Exactly, that is the normal practice for any country buying new imported high-tech defense systems, though it is very likely Russian elements will be accompanying the system to complete the operational training to bring the trainees to full operational capability and readiness. 

At that point a battle to take back Syria from the 'imports', and dramatically reduce the internal resistance in earnest gets rolling. Damascus and Syria's military has been patiently getting ready, putting the necessary defensive pieces in place, so that they'll have a free-hand. Everything they have done until now has been place-holding.

And add in this system to, which you didn't mention above, as it also has not been used yet;

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-16/russian-pacific-fleet-warships-...

And I think we can safely say this will be a significant expansion in capabilities for the surface-launched Yakhont variant:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-16/view-highest-point-western-hemi...

Once you take it all into account, with a Russian Fleet in the area to block US/NATO overstepping, then a very different picture emerges of where Syria is at, strategically, and that is before any other player gets actively involved in support of Damascus.

The Sunni elements in Lebanon should be thinking carefully about what they're about to get themselves into, because they're going to be held to account at some point if they go into Syria and run-amok in there. Because the Syrian defense force will be coming to their own home towns at some point, and completely obliterate those parts of Lebanon that were involved.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 16:40 | 3574214 VikingCoral
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Mainstream Media, so lets define "Mainstream": main·stream - belonging to or characteristic of a principal, dominant, or widely accepted group, movement, style, etc. So by this definition, (thanks reference.com) Fox News would be the most mainstream media because it is the most popular media outlet. So when one says "Mainstream Media" helping Obama I'm lost, as Fox seems to not help out Obama in any way shape or form. What I think you might be talking about is "the media" which would be everyone, mainstream, non-mainstream etc.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 16:49 | 3574247 tickhound
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Damn rookie you are lost... You sure know how to split hairs regarding the more diluted left leaning media side of the mainstream message.  Even your split ends got split ends. 

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 18:22 | 3574463 knukles
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Hegelian Dialectic claims another one

Hey ma, lookie here, a hair!  Lets split it!

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 18:08 | 3574435 Kayman
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Even big, bad Bill O'Reilly is running cover for Obama- always trotting out some "plausible" explanation why he is such a fuckup.

1." Well it coulda been some overzealous, low-level IRS guys mistakenly thinking they were helping out the boss." 

2. "Well maybe Hillary or Barry didn't get fully briefed on Benghaizi until later."

3." Well the DOJ is constantly looking for National Security Leaks so it doesn't surprise me that Ap was targeted."

Yeah, Billy, it's all an incredible coincidence. Fuck, yeah !

Remember the old days when you were a reporter Billy. If it looks like shit and smells like shit, you don't need to taste it to confirm it is shit.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 16:45 | 3574231 Cycling Fish
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A former DIA officer labels the IDF as " Gucci soldiers" - having spent too much time killing unarmed Palestinians and not enough time training hard against equivalently armed forces.

The result of that was that Hezbollah handed them their ass when they invaded Southern Lebanon.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 19:34 | 3574634 Herdee
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I can't see Israel allowing itself to be boxed-in by Russia-Syria-Iran alliance.Various countries in the region have attempted that before and were unsuccessful.I'm watching this geopolitical situation very closely for what it means on a Gold trade.We'll see what happens and stay ready for a trade.Don't forget,people in the middleast buy a lot of gold too.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 21:33 | 3574891 Paracelsus
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The Russians help Iraq with military hardware during the Iran/Iraq war.The Kuwaitis help Iraq with loans. The war over, US Ambassador April Glaspie gives Saddam the nudge,nudge wink,wink "We have no opinion on Arab/Arab disputes". He invades Kuwait because they won't forgive his loan debts.Ms. Glaspie later remarks,"we didn't think he would take all of Kuwait".The Russians were given large,profitable leases on the Iraqi (Majoon?) oilfields. I doubt these are now valid. They take a big hit.

Now: Cyprus gets debt-bombed,and Syria,a favorite Russian client state is fragmenting.

The whole area is awash with weapons.Putin must be laughing his tits off that the US is $6 Trill.in the red over this.

What did we get for our dough? Iran encircled a bit,still has a nuke program,still selling oil. Petrodollar propped up for a few years more but at a great cost.Risk of hyper-inflation due to all the money printing going on.

Plan? What fucking plan? 

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 21:47 | 3574931 besnook
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nutandyahoo is betting the usa will come to its aid no matter what israel does. that may be a bad bet this time.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 15:04 | 3585000 MeelionDollerBogus
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I can’t see a choice. The US isn’t powerful enough to stop the box-in and Israel is less powerful.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 21:26 | 3574882 the not so migh...
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KGB is going to stick a spiked dildo up Obamas butt

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 21:39 | 3574908 thisandthat
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the struggle against global terrorism

It's like the struggle against your inner monster...

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 22:52 | 3575100 GMadScientist
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I, for one, am truly glad we had Hillary hit that "reset button".

Hahahahahaaaa.

Sat, 05/18/2013 - 02:04 | 3575327 CutOut
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Sat, 05/18/2013 - 02:41 | 3575343 Andy Lewis
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