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IRS Witch-Hunt Congressional Hearing Begins - Live Webcast
While unlikley to have the kind of fireworks of Holder and Issa, we suspect President Obama will be biting his nails a little at the inability to control the questions asked here as IRS ex-top-man Steve Miller faces an entirely "bipartisan" questioning into the IRS witchhunts of select political groups.
Witness List
Steve Miller
Acting Commissioner of the
Internal Revenue Service
Testimony
J. Russell George
Treasury
Inspector General for Tax Administration
Testimony
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From Ways & Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp:
This hearing provides an opportunity to hear from the private sector about the potential benefits and challenges of these negotiations. In particular, I hope that we will learn more from our witnesses about the following issues:
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5. Developing and strengthening cooperation regarding our shared concerns with trade and investment policies in third countries, such as anticompetitive behavior from subsidized state-owned enterprises and policies that undermine intellectual property rights.
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The Ruskie navy floating around in the Med ready to mix it up with the 6th Fleet and the crazy ass isrealies, and these clowns and the FauxNews ass hats are all over the white house about a tax issue - fucking insane - deal with anything but reality -
You like shiny things don't you.
Not with the title "ICBM" on them. Don't fuck with the nuclear navy - either one of them.
Stuff like war is what happens when were sitting around watching Dancing With Stars.
NOTE: There's more to this story than most understand; sadly, knee-jerk reaction has set in and people are unlikely to allow for any corrections (in/to logic/facts) to be absorbed. I knee-jerk too (especially to those in power, and those who want to be in power), but I eventually settle down and apply independent judgment. Yes, the sound-bite-ness of this has all sorts of really disgusting things, but, as sound-bites typically go, they're primarily sales jobs.
I think a pretty level-headed discussion was from David Clay Johnston:
http://www.democracynow.org/2013/5/16/the_other_irs_scandal_david_cay
NOTE2: Knee-jerkers will likely down-arrow this because of the source. All I can say is that one ought to focus on messages rather than the messenger.
"new political organizations seeking tax-exempt status under tax code Section 501(c)(4). Groups such as Karl Rove’s Crossroads GPS have claimed to be social welfare organizations while spending tens of millions of dollars on political operations."
One rule for the peasants, another for the lords, I guess.
Steven Miller is full of shit.
Freeze that frame.
The witch hunt is over and has been found: Sarah Hall Ingram . Read about her at Drudge. Now, unbelievably, she is in charge of Obamacare at the IRS. SHE is the person Boehner needs to put behind bars.
I really love how everyone above pointed fingers down. It's now taken a different course. The career Bureaucrats think no one is paying attention. They prognosticate and pontificate in the bars around DC about the country needs. They really think they're immune from this stuff.
Steve Miller, "one of those completely unquestioning, devoted drudges on whom, more even than on the Thought Police, the stability of the Party depended." GO 1984
Witch Hunt? fuck off.
How about investigation of a criminal enterprise?
Miller.....Uaaah....I ah dono....remeber....don't recall....I'll have to get back to you on that..........
Same ol...same ol BS.......
He always tells the truth. These were not partisan attacks. He says it without blinking an eye. The government is full of sociopaths. This is just fucking bizzarro.
He says it without blinking an eye
Clear sign of Monarch butterfly programming........just Google it.
I think you mean MK Ultra brainwashing, but thats just splitting hairs.
Brainwashing... One of the first red pills I ever took. Was fascinated by the idea at age 14, had no idea where it would lead me.
So Mr Millar was aware that a Taxpayer's confidential records were being briefed to the press lobby and he did.......nothing.
I stumbled upon this from David Clay Johnston and believe that it's worth considering. He provides, as much as I can tell, real facts surrounding all of this. Some refute the "popular" beliefs being pushed out there, some present things that haven't been pushed out. I think he's being pretty straight up.
http://www.democracynow.org/2013/5/16/the_other_irs_scandal_david_cay
NOTE: Those that have a problem with this being from Democracy Now! can walk away and stick their heads in the sand and continue to ignore the "message" because of the "messenger." I stopped and listened to this because the guy sounded like he had knowledge of things that I did not, and as such I heard plenty that gave me the impression that what he's saying can stand up to strict tests of logic, and This is my measure.
Watched the video. Anyone who tells me IRS agents are the best government employees and that they have a rough job is like Steven Miller. They are full of shit. 70,000 applications for 200 people. 70,000/200 = 350. 52 weeks * working 4 days a week = 208 working days. 350 applications per employee / 208 working days a year = 1.7 applications a day. Holy shit! They had to do almost two applications a day after getting every Friday off! Those poor fucks!
Lois Lerner, the one he mentions was lying to the press?
http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/16/embattled-irs-official-lois-lerners-husbands-law-firm-hosted-an-obama-campaign-organizing-meeting/
It must be hard to complete 1.7 applications per day when one has to ask questions such as: "How many times a day do you defecate? Does it come out blue or red?" and "How often do you read ZeroHedge?"
Then there are all those follow-up questions to ask, like "Have you ever heard of the Constitution?"
It ain't easy finding ways to prevaricate on these applications from anti-Progressive whacko extremist groups. Give those poor IRS agents a break.
Anyone who says IRS agents are the best government employees simply scares the shit out of me and has obviously never been audited. This is like saying the executioner has a tough job...not if he is enjoying it!
You are also ignoring the fact that as with most government jobs, most of them are doing nothing more productive than purely supervising the few that do anything at all. This is why we cannot pinpoint any accountability. They are virtually all managers. No one actually does much of anything. Why don't thet just blame it on the congressmen that had sent letters to the IRS demanding that they investigate these conservative groups. But thats right, its not anyones fault. A simple misscommunication/clerical error while pursuing the ever illusive governmental effeciency. As is always the case, from a liberal perspective its OK to break a few eggs in the making of a more perfect utopia. Afterall, tryanny is a non issue to a government that is only here to help, right?
Federal government employment has long been about "Social Justice". Of those 200 employees, a percentage is anencephalic. Another percentage is going through the motions until they are promoted to improve diversity. Another is being harassed by their psychopathic bosses because they want to do things "right" etc. Along with the usual office useless meetings, yakking, romances, ass kissing, petty spats and smoking, bathroom, coffee breaks, and lunches, there is no time. Your tax dollars at work. There is no fixing it.
Thanks for the link.
Yup, he voted for NDAA.
The whores in these ads are looking skankier and more desperate. Oh, that's the congress & the irs... Oh.
Yeah, they need to let the Investment Bankers and DSK pick the whores just get rid of these dogs.
Prosecute anyone but Wall Street.
Just another shit show
Now that Steve Miller's stint with the IRS is over, I really hope he gets the band back together.
Touring in a 707 probably ain't a good idea, though.
Yeah Steve,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2ykq2KFVu4 Most dangerous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiBOf87pYuU
I don't remember. I don't recall. I'm not sure.I can't give you an approximate time. Can't help you with that.I believe. I don't believe. Not sure.Let me make it clear. Can't respond might be illegal. (fifth amendment) Dems questioning Bush did it. Is that correct? yes sir Rep response Did he lie? He was incorrect. Not targeting. Incorrect but not untruthful. He knows he was uninformed.
Why aren't they tried in court like the rest of us slaves?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QPjEgtD_4I
Above the law? Hell, they are the law.
Does anyone really believe one of the real culprits in the entire U.S. insanity project will go to jail or be totally exposed? I've been at the end of my rope with this cabal of criminals that flood the entire "government" sector (which obviously includes the bankers and other corporate heads). Shortly after Boston I said they had no evidence to convict that young man and they would either have to let him go or they would have to show fabricated evidence, which if fabricated would be about a months time. Sure enough, yesterday they come out with the boat have a message written on it by Dzhokhar. They've had this boat in their possession since they caught him (19th of April)..... I rest my case.
Right. As the cops were shooting the boat full of holes, he wrote a message. That's almost as believable as the 9-11 passports that survived the fire and were found on street.
I'm mad as hell, and I won't take it anymore!
Yes you will, and for questioning our authority we will use sand as a lubricant.
They found a Note in a Boat, and built a story that wouldn't Float.
Linda Green wrote it.
Wondered where she was working now.
Obama got his second term so the pressure is off for him no matter what. This is all about 2016 for repubicans. Just like the 37th vote to repeal Health Care Reform. BTW, it costs $24 million per day to have Congress in session. That almost $900 million for 37 days tied up in voting they know is useless before they start. I know I'm impressed.
It is well worth paying 535 human zeros $24 million per day to do nothing instead of something [destructive].
Mr. Brady has asked the most important question: "Is this still America". This is the most important question that needs to be answered, to see if America still works.
Its working good, just look at "the Market " pricing in another "Happy Ending" wank wank wank...AHHHHHHHHhhhhhh
I have a strange desire to clear my throat.
Too bad that torture is not used nowadays. ...wait!
Shouldn't Obammy himself be testifying. He just reassigned the person in charge of the IRS scandal to head the Obamacare part of the IRS and its new army of agents.
Two things I dont get. People are going batshit like this hasnt happened before? IRS went after left ast well. Second question is for the the "teanuts", who in their right mind believes that these organizations had their primary function in social welfare? Lets cut the bullshit, these are all political organizations, nothing more. Or can anyone offer me an explanation that these are not political organizations?
My solution: get rid of the tax exemption for good, for everybody. Why the hell churches get it? You believe in you mumbojambo, you pay for it.
Rival gangs fighting over turf.
Why do churches get tax exempt status?
Its so that the gov't has something to hold over the church. You think about questioning gov't and preaching peace and the end of war, and the end of the MIC, think again.
Churches have been completely complicit in the War on Terror. And tax exempt status is why.
" Don't Know, Not Sure, Can't Remember".... IRS must be too big to fail and that, as you know, causes memory loss.
So this is the law, the IRS spent years back and forth trying to find their way out of a paper bag, they then interpret the law to mean they can ask for what books their reading, Facebook posts, and donor rolls and because people took notice and realized how fucked up this was, the solution should be to scrap the whole thing and raise taxes on churches?
How about we just get rid of the IRS? Then they can't fuck up this badly
Today this about a criminal enterprise that was being directed by the political left maybe those closely associated to Obama through the IRS to prevent unfairly the application of the law with respect to tax exempt status. How else do you explain that Austin Goalsby has tax records of a private company who happens to be a political foe. This is the tip of the corruption in the Obama presidency. Make no mistake about that my friend.
Wikipedia lists Goolsbee as a member of Skull and Bones. But you got to love how they snuck it in there:
"At Yale, Goolsbee was a member of the Yale Political Union, the improv comedy troupe Just Add Water, Skull and Bones, and the Yale Debate Association."
The improv comedy troupe "Just Add Water, Skull, and Bones", or is that, the improv comedy troupe Just Add Water, and the murderous, psychopathic secret society Skull and Bones.
I really don't believe too many are completely surprised by this. It wouldn't surprise me if later they do determine he is in fact a foreign national (Kenyan - by birth) and that he stole the election with ballot box trickery in addition to New Black Panther Party thugery intimidation. "Politizise Everything!"
As the kabuki theater is played out, the war on America continues..
The most direct attack on America is the expansion of legal immigration to this country. Almost half the people currently living in the US are here as a result of the Immigration Reform Act of 1965. The work and student visa program, green cards and refugee programs make illegal immigration look puny. Contrary to the current meme, our country was not founded by immigrants - it was founded by colonists that forged a new country out of the wilderness for themselves and their posterity. It is our inheritance and it is being sacrificed at the table of political correctness, just as surely as Esau gave up his inheritance for a pot of stew, Americans are giving up their inheritance for the porridge of a false self-righteousness of "multiculturalism" that is nothing but the death of the American way of life and freedom.
These brainwashed Eurotrash socialists and third world bottom-feeders have no history or tradition of natural rights, and in fact have never heard of the concept, or understand that the Constitution was an attempt to codify those natural God-given rights. They do not understand what our Founders understood - that men who are drawn to centers of power are by nature the worst among us, and that laws are needed to keep them in check. They do not understand or respect that the Constitution was written as a witness against the fallen nature of man, and that it is as timeless man's nature, which has not changed, and will not be out-dated until that nature has become angelic.
The descendants of America's founders are being replaced with a foreign people, and this was by design. The American gun-owning, freedom-loving middle-class was the biggest obstacle to One-World-Government-equally-distributed-misery plans of the international bankster cartel. It was no accident that American wages started stagnating in 1970 and have decreased ever since. Simple supply and demand. Since that wasn't enough, more jobs were moved overseas and more foreigners were moved in to take the jobs still here.
Ben Johnson said this about the The 1965 Immigration Act in an article for FrontPageMagazine in 2002:
The 1965 Immigration Act: Anatomy of a Disaster By: Ben Johnson FrontPageMagazine dot com | Tuesday, December 10, 2002
"Despite the overwhelming assurances of the bill's supporters, the 1965 Immigration Reform Act has remade society into the image its critics most feared. Immigration levels topping a million a year will increase U.S. population to 400 million within 50 years. Meanwhile, exponents of multiculturalism insist new arrivals make no effort to assimilate; to do so would be "genocidal," a notion that makes a mockery of real genocides. Instead, long-forgotten grudges are nursed against the white populace. Native citizens take to flight as the neighborhoods around them, the norms in their hometowns, are debased for the convenience of low-paid immigrants and well-heeled businessmen. All the while, indigenous paychecks drop through lower wages and higher taxes collected to provide social services for immigrants. And this only takes into account legal immigration.
"Americans must realize demographic trends are not inevitable, the product of mysterious forces beyond their control. Today's population is the result of yesterday's immigration policy, and that policy is as clearly broken as its backers' assurances were facetious. A rational policy will only come about when native Americans place the national interest above liberal howls of 'prejudice' and 'tribalism.'"
Its only gotten worse since Ben penned this article.
At a time when unemployment is at an all time high, "Conservative" Senator Ted Cruz wants to expand legal immigration, most of who will vote Democrat or Big Government Republican once they get here and take your job.
This is a war against the American People and Culture, and the Americans are loosing badly and don't even understand why. Most Americans blame only illegal immigration which is a fraction of the problem, and miss the bigger picture of legal immigrants.
I often hear people ask the question of how America became such a divided Nation. Now you know.
America was divided from the beginning. Before the Immigration Act of 1965, Americans of different ethnic and religious backgrounds lived in their own neighborhoods, and looked down on other ethnic and religious groups. While I do not agree with an “open door” immigration policy, there is more to the “divisions among Americans” than the large influx of “foreigners”. The biggest division in this country is between the Republicans and the Democrats, and you can thank Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton for this permanent wedge in our nation. And may I also note: they were both white men.
duly noted.
The biggest divisions in America? Let me list them, we could be here a while
Male vs Female
Black vs White vs Latino
Young vs Old
Rich ($1 billion) vs Poor (under $100k/year)
East vs West vs South vs Midwest
And so on. Its all a result of Divide and Conquer. 99% of the population has a great deal in common with one another, and absolutely nothing in common with 1% of the population (also the wealthiest, coincidentally)
Don't forget the catch all in Religion vs Religion. Even if we all realize we're the same regardless of income or skin color you then bring out the big guns...
Abortion
Gay Marriage
Which God you worship (or hate for the athiests)
If you're Christian, how your version is better than the others
Shi'a or Sunni
Jewish?!
Simplistic reply. You completely ignore the major factual points in comment you are replying to. Grow a spine.
"Before the Immigration Act of 1965, Americans of different ethnic and religious backgrounds lived in their own neighborhoods, and looked down on other ethnic and religious groups."
This is mostly bullshit. I've done extensive research on this. It's a fact that most immigrant ethnic groups have gradually diffused geographically over a period of generations. There are two notable ethnic groups that have defied this phenomenon: blacks and hispanics. Blacks, in fact, have gone the opposite way over the last century: they have become more geographically concentrated.
: "I've done extensive research on this."
Where? On "Stormfront"? I lived it, Bubba. I've lived in Italian neighborhoods, Mexican neighborhoods, Irish neighborhoods, Catholic neighborhoods, Black neighborhoods, and White neighborhoods. I lived it, Bubba; I didn't just research it, and trust me Dr. Duke, it ain't "bullshit".
It is bullshit. Fuck your stupid anecdotal "evidence"; scholars have done actual studies on this, which I researched carefully about 6 or 7 years ago, because my livelihood at the time depended on the results. I could dig up the links, but that would take awhile, if you care so much do the work yourself. In the meantime quit talking out of your asshole.
Blame Thomas Jefferson? Wow, you really are a clueless dumbfuck aren't you. Why not tell us Hamilton was a pro bankster snake?
It's Red and Blue nonsense and all whitey's fault for this? LOL..thanks for the Friday humor.
I think they taught you in your public schools that Aaron Burr shot the pro-central banking Alexander Hamilton. He didn't shoot him because of immigration policies, or because Hamilton was a "foreigner". At least Aaron Burr in shooting the opposition had more balls than your pussy, cowardly ass, who sits all day, hiding behind a computer, instead of fighting for your country.
Its not just about divisions. It is also about creating and identifying "oppressed groups" that require special considerations. The suspension of immigration laws, welfare benefit enhancements and legal identities, all inorder to buy political support. Its one thing to support one party or another to protect your freedom, but when it is about redistribution and constitutional adaptations, we should all be very very concerned.
So, you wanna blame giving Blacks and Mexicans food stamps for all of our economic woes? My God, where do you people learn this garbage???
A-fucking-men brother.
Say any of this though out in public and you'll be strung up as rayciss, eentolerrant, or big-ootid in a heart beat. White men have taken advantage of all these poor ethnic groups for centuries! It's their turn this time around.
FOR SLAVERY AND THE DESTRUCTION OF ALL! ZEIG HEIL!
Ted Cruz is against the immigration bill pea brain.
"Contrary to the current meme, our country was not founded by immigrants - it was founded by colonists that forged a new country out of the wilderness for themselves and their posterity."
Colonists my ass, conquerers comes to mind.
By strange coincidence, the History channel is talking about the rise of Hitler. They just described how he wiped out opposition to him and the National People's Socialist Party by convincing everyone that anyone not with them was against them. Before the Jews were the point of focus, it was political and vocal opposition that was removed.
I immediately thought about IRS being used to target the Tea Party, thus validating it's significance as a credible, political threat.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Strange coincidence ? Just preparing for Impeachment.....
Its important to note that Hitler was telling people what they wanted to hear in re: "the Jews". He wasn't selling them on a belief of his own. Although I bet you the common German was more upset with Rudolf Havenstein's hyperinflationary actions, than his religious persuasion. I wonder if criticism of his actions could be deliberately misinterpreted as anti-semitism?
I've heard enough. These guys basically think nothing is wrong. And why should they? The laws are vague. And they're doing as they damn well please. And they're going to take the standard government "if you dont tells me to specifically not do something, don't be surprised by anything that I do."
So can we move this to "because the laws are so vague, the agencies are the ones who interpret the laws and come up with the real regulations on their own. And if you complain, they say 'talk to your congressman'. But in effect, the agencies are making laws that no one is actually agreeing to. They're just being authorized to legislate on their own."
The government is completely broken. No one is agreeing to anything. There's no accountability. And there's nothing you can do about it unless you just wipe things out wholesale.
It's not complicated; they think they are better than us, that they are our masters, and that we serve them at their pleasure. They do what they are told to do by their superiors, unquestioningly, because they have the moral capacity of a pack of hyenas.
On my 1040, I will now answer all of the questions with "I don't know" or "I don't recall".
heil Obama, heil.
Xavier Becarra has now mentioned that our tax system is voluntary 5 times.
and confirmed... CONFIRMED... by Mr. Miller. WTF? If voluntary then I chose ...............
Makes you wonder what shit they're trying to pull by emphasizing it's voluntary so many fucking times.
It is at least interesting counterpoint to the other Congresscritters who want to hire more IRS employess because every $1 spent on salaries equals $260 in revenue.
And every $260 in revenue is $260 less money being spent in the economy by individuals, and instead to be given to government cronies of all sorts.
Bingo.
I was getting my income tax done at H&R Block and the Obamacare penalty for the 2014 tax return is already built in to the software; it was around $950. The lady told me that it was "a courtesy advance warning". I hope to hell that I'm living out of the country by then. Fuck this place.
Why aren't they putting Mrs Doubtfire on the stand? (mr/ms sarah ingram)
We can avoid most of the IRS problems by having a flat tax, we'd be able to eliminate 90% of the IRS funding and get the same revenue. We'd remove the IRS as a political weapon. We'd remove all the legal loopholes for the super rich for tax avoidance that average Americans cannot afford to implement.
The govt wants to make everyone a criminal in the eyes of the law, in order to clamp down on selective people at any time as they wish.
So we have voluntary system of paying our taxes? -LOL!
I volunteer to pay NO taxes.
I caught that too... LMAO... yeah pay no taxes and the IRS will bring their shiny new shotguns, get a corrupt judge and idiot jury to convict, and haul you off to prison. Because we live in a free country! USA USA USA USA USA
The proof is in. No Democrats have ANY constituents who were treated unfairly by the IRS. But on the other hand the Republicans have constituents who have to go thru months of harassment. Isn't odd that the Dems don't have anybody complaining about the IRS?
The best admission of guilt you get from DEMS is "wellll....ummmm.....Bush did it too!!!"
You do understand the liberal mindset is that only republicans are the evil people you should not trust.
Why are they referring to the tax payment in the U.S. as voluntary?
They did?
The D from California... whateverthefuckhisnameis... he said it at least 5 times.
Obama doesn't know shit, Holder doesn't know shit, the head of the IRS doesn't know shit and they want us to believe shutting down the government would be disasterous for the economy? Other than a flood of worthless know-nothing do-nothing bureaucrats hitting the unemployment rolls we the people wouldn't notice.....
Now would be a good time to end the FED & IRS. That would take care of a lot of things. Just saying.
The IRS is a rogue criminal organization that should be terminated immediately.
Unfortunately, they are part of a much larger rogue criminal organization, which will protect them.
What an absolute joke. Watching Rangel of all people grilling this shmuck about ethical behavior?
The hand wringing from Boner saying that people need to go to jail over this?
Free Jon Corzine!
Corzine for tax commish and fed chairman, and SEC chairman!!!
Just when the questioning gets interesting and Miller starts to squirm, the time runs out. How convenient -lol
Panem et circenses
Miller is a dick. I dunno, I don't have that name, not sure about that, I did not know that, I'll check with legal advisors, blah, blah, blah...
He characterized this as "really bad customer service" issue.
Say what?!
Throw a rope around that fuck and drag him out onto the street!
And that Dem buttpounder from Californicatia! Yeah, this is all our fault for not being specific enough on laws governing tax exempt orgs and this is all just a one-time abberation, blah blah blah...
Yeah, not targeted...all those libiot groups that sailed through the application process and didn't receive outrageous 80 question ass-drillings under penalty of purgery penalties proves this was bipartisan targeting, eh?
String that fuck up too!
Why can't Spiro Agnew lead the questioning or Jon Corzine or, let's see...................... Hillary commodity trader Clinton.
Is "witch-hunt" really the right metaphor? How about "shooting rats at the dump"?
http://www.enca.com/technology/cornstarch-proves-its-weight-gold
Yeah, let's put another strain on the corn supply.
Illegal??? What illegal??? We're the IRS!
I am now so fucked off with this whole charade I am personally praying for an Alien Intervention.
Its as clear as the fucking nose on my face these fuckers are beyond the law and beyond reproach.
God damn fuckers, come on down my Alien friends and anally probe these fuckers to death.
Theatre of the fucking absurd is what we are living through.
Na, the aliens are grabbing some popcorn (or their equivalent of popcorn), and watching the whole thing unfold. It's like watching an antfarm.
This is bigger than watergate.
The House committee grill of ousted IRS chief is only a big theater.
"The president insists he learned of the investigation into allegations the agency had been targeting conservative groups along with everyone else...?"
latest news here:
http://tersee.com/#q=irs&t=text
how about asking, "Why was Harry Reid so adamant about Romney releasing all his tax returns IF IN FACT HE DIDN'T HAVE INSIDE INFORMATION FROM IRS" YEAH, THAT'S A LEGITIMATE QUESTION. (see I used all caps... you know I'm serious... would you doubt someone who takes the time to push the shift key?)
The IRS thing gets even better now.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottgottlieb/2013/05/15/the-irs-raids-60-mi...
The Internal Revenue Service is facing a class action lawsuit alleging that more than 60 million personal medical records were improperly seized by agents from the embattled agency.
According to a story by Courthousenews.com, an unnamed healthcare provider in California is suing the IRS and 15 unnamed agents, alleging that they improperly seized some 60 million medical records of 10 million Americans, including medical records of all California state judges on March 11, 2011.
According to the complaint, the IRS agents had a search warrant for financial data pertaining to a former employee of the “John Doe Company,” however, “it did not authorize any seizure of any healthcare or medical record of any persons, least of all third parties completely unrelated to the matter.”
The medical records included information on psychological counseling, gynecological counseling, sexual and drug treatment, and other sensitive medical treatment data, the suit alleges. A copy of the legal complaint can be purchased here for $35......
Can you say preemptive obamacare record raiding to enforce tax compliance...... Not only preemptive but illegal and wiping their ass all over HIPAA privacy rules in the process. I'm sure grabbing medical records that they had no right or warrants to grab wasn't politically motivated in any manner concerning obamacare or other political reasons. /sarc
No, but I can say "Drag them out into the streets for some real justice"!
I think Tyler made this connect the dot suggestion. http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/17/18320618-irs-official-in-charge-of-scrutinizing-political-groups-now-heads-agencys-role-in-obamacare?lite
Just so it doesn't get buried in the comments and is tied to your comment for the connect the dots purposes.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottgottlieb/2013/05/15/the-irs-raids-60-mi...
The dickface Miller dodged that issue too, admitted he "promoted" this psychotic statist whore to oversee the IRS ObamaCare Office knowing she ran the corrupt tax exempt office...but she's a kick-ass employee who would never ever do anything wrong!
Tar, feathers, rail!!!
I TIRE OF THIS PATHETIC THEATRE.
Both sides hate the Tea Party. Probably the Republicans hate them even more.
No More Government.
Tea Party is a direct threat to Republicans, but they would just be the opposition to Democrats. So the current Rs (the sell outs, social climbers, and sociopaths) hugely fear the threat.
They know the appeal AN HONEST CANDIDATE would have.
Exactly, which is why a genuine person like Ron Paul was discreditied and the paper mache person of Mitt Romney promoted.
.............. *WARNING* ..............
ZH is being targeted by FedGov spam bots saturating the comment sections with trash and down voting certain posters.
They are not just individual trolls, they are professional operatives attempting to undermine and discredit ZH.
I'll take "who gives a shit?" for 1000 Alex.
Down Voting?
OHHH the agony.
How will I ever sleep tonight?
That is it I am removing ZH from my favorites bar.
Oh wait a minute.....who gives a flying fuck on a rolling doughnut?
IT'S TIME FOR A 'MERICA CHANT. USA! USA! I LOVE THE IRS! USA! USA! I LOVE THE COLLECTION AGENCY FOR THE PRIVATE FEDERAL RESERVE! USA! USA!
Soros Gave $6.1 Million to Groups Linked to Pressure on IRS to Target Conservative Nonprofits
https://www.mrc.org/bias-numbers/soros-gave-61-million-groups-linked-pressure-irs-target-conservative-nonprofits
Conservatives are being targeted for elimination because in the liberal world any and all opposition must be controlled and discredited to the point they give up and go away. It's why they want your guns, its why they passed obamacare, it's why they want to know what books you read, what you post on Facebook, where you pray, and even who you voted for. Don't believe me well these are just a few of the questions that the IRS agents sent conservative groups.
"The IRS scandal can be traced back to a series of letters that the liberal groups Campaign Legal Center (CLC) and Democracy 21 sent to the IRS back in 2010 and 2011. Both groups were funded by George's Soros's Open Society Foundations. The CLC received $677,000 and Democracy 21 got $365,000 from the Soros-backed foundation, according to the Foundation's 990 tax forms.
The letters specifically targeted conservative Super PACs like Karl Rove's Crossroads GPS, asking the IRS to scrutinize them more thoroughly to determine whether or not they should retain their tax-exempt status."
Soros letter to the IRS
http://www.campaignlegalcenter.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=art...
I'm sure this had absolutely nothing to do with this story and subsequent posting of tax exempt forms online by prorepublica.........
https://www.propublica.org/article/controversial-dark-money-group-among-...
"The IRS sent the applications submitted by the five groups to ProPublica in response to a public records request, although the agency is only required to supply these records after groups are recognized as tax-exempt. (ProPublica also obtained the pending application of Crossroads GPS, the dark money group launched by GOP strategist Karl Rove that spent more than $70 million on the 2012 elections, which we wrote about separately.)"
Prorepublica's posting of Crossroads tax exempt form online at the same time.
https://www.propublica.org/documents/item/537045-crossroads-gps-applicat...
Which explains this story ProRepublica put out the other day.
https://www.propublica.org/article/irs-office-that-targeted-tea-party-al...
Before the 2012 election, ProPublica devoted months to showing how dozens of social-welfare nonprofits had misled the IRS about their political activity on their applications and tax returns. Social-welfare nonprofits are allowed to spend money to influence elections, as long as their primary purpose is improving social welfare. Unlike super PACs and regular political action committees, they do not have to identify their donors.
In 2012, nonprofits that didn’t have to report their donors poured an unprecedented $322 million into the election. Much of that money — 84 percent — came from conservative groups.
As part of its reporting, ProPublica regularly requested applications from the IRS’s Cincinnati office, which is responsible for reviewing applications from nonprofits.
Obviously covering their asses on this one. I think we can conclude Soros was either working on behalf of the Oreo or directly for the Oreo to target Crossroads using people inside the IRS. They need to question him closely now. Of course they wont...........
If someone on the inside pushes the issue they are going to find out the leak for those tax forms wasn't the IRS to Prorepublica but the IRS to either Campaign Legal Center, Democracy 21, the Center for Public Integrity, Mother Jones or Alternet (all Soros funded groups) and in turn one of those groups leaked the documents to Prorepublica. What makes it even more ilegal is the tax exempt forms weren't approved at the time which making them public record in and of itself is also illegal so not did only both these entities have government records they shouldn't have had Prorepublica took it a step further and posted them online for everyone to see.
Saw the movie "The Lives of Others" last night. The movie was set in 1984 E. Germany - you have to see the similarities to the US today.
Has anyone mentioned "criminal" or "Jail"?
Didn't think so
The problem here is Big Government. Where were the Tea Party people when antiwar groups (such as Justin Raimondo’s Antiwar.com that they equate with pacifists and Muslim lovers) were being targeted by many branches of government, including at airport security and at their meetings?
Also, many factions on the right say they are for the Constitution and smaller government but they oppose cutting one single penny from the defense budget or the intelligence services. And it must be mentioned that the military, CIA and FBI are the earmarks not only of big government but of surveillance of citizens.
These groups on the right were on board with the Patriot Act and now they are worried that this Big Government monster they helped the Democrats create has the power and the audacity to single them out for IRS persecution. They are not only hypocrites but they are causing this country to go astray as they are led by the Zionists tsunami to sweep the world of Israel’s enemies.
And speaking of the Zionist tsunami, when are we going to get to the IRS Commissioner who really was in charge as the latest scandal was underway – Douglas Shulman on whose watch these crimes were committed?
Shulman, who stepped down on Nov. 9, is the true “IRS ex-top-man,” not Steve Miller.
A good read to put things into perspective is Raimondo’s latest column today on Antiwar.com:"Our Civil Liberties, RIP."
As Raimondo says: “The Tea Partiers may be shocked – shocked! – that the Big Government they have spent the last few years complaining about really is a threat to our liberties, but the government targeting certain political groups wholly on account of their views is hardly breaking news…”
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2013/05/16/our-civil-liberties-rip/
Congressional hearings .... boring .... I predict IRS .... get's huge budget boost .... for all the hard working, honest slime .... most of those people couldn't clerk at 7/11 .... and no offense to my Pakistani buddies at AM/PM and Circle K !
IRS is like a hard working, honest bone marrow cancer ! LOL Part of the strategy .... is to bore you to death .... rope a dope ?
Just because it is true....doesn't mean it is a witch hunt.....
I was thinking that, too .... one of the Tylers must have relatives who work at IRS ?
Attention american muppets in CONgress, who's gonna fund your liabilities now?
BOOM motherfuckers; http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/bond/10_year
Ben would have done better to drop cash from a helicopter at this point. He's got the printer, but we control velocity.
Go ahead hamstring the IRS (your one source of revenue). that should help, morons. The circuses continue, let's hope they can keep delivering the fucking bread.
Ha! One instance of illegal government activity floats to the surface and all attention is diverted to it.
Meanwhile, I'm sure that all kinds of even more serious illegal government behavior is taking place that will never surface nor will anyone ever go digging for it since no one is watching the watchers.
He's taking the 5th?!! The head of the IRS gets to take the 5th, BUT you are not allowed to take the 5th when reporting your taxes. This fucking agency is incredible. No one else is allowed this basic civil right except the employees of the IRS.
Complete your taxes then redact all the sensitive details, in fact everybody should do this under aliases like Mickey Mouse, Richard Head, Amanda Hugginkiss, etc...flood the bastards...choke the system!!!
Witch Hunts usually ended in death
This fraudulent bunch of garbage will end in nobody knowing anything and for those not fired promotions and if fired pay increases after becoming lobbyists
1.) abolish the federal reserve bank.
2.) abolish the irs.
3.) abolish the legal tender codes.
4.) end this monetary charade and "everything that hangs off it".
5.) start over.
6.) start living life incorporating all the knowledge we should have
gained through suffering this circus theater side show for too long.
7.) are all these people making 6 figures sitting around and bullshitting
each other and the general public?
8.) yes they are.
9.) ....
Eric Holder Has No Idea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fCF_LiS4l4&feature=player_embedded
general atmosphere of cluelessness ensues.
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John Stewart describes how the Monsanto Protection Act was snuck in under
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K4pfiYK2IQ&feature=em-share_video_user
.
Joe Ely "The Road Goes on Forever"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu56oi8ui84
The Warlocks are questioning the Witches?
Will there be a bubbling cauldron?
Will bat wings be in it?
Will anything change?
IRS ,DOJ ,DOD , State Dept, DOE, Treasury. The cancer has spread too far. The Big Con is dieing.
Texas will be a free and independent republic again.
the complexity and obfuscation has become the economy which
is failing and is doomed. 501c4 is a scam from the word go
as is everything associated with the federal reserve, legal tender
laws and the irs.
a skid mark leaving scam of global proportions that will
bring down the government and all the trust it attempts
to engender in the population.
This is actually a civil rights case and Miller's ignorant rant about targeting individuals for their beliefs is not illegal is going to haunt everyone involved. Furthermore, if there are more than five people working together to violate these company's civil rights; the whole process could turn into a RICO (organized-crime) case.
if a "political" group believes they should be tax exempt
and that other groups should pay the taxes that they receive
as payment for fulfilling government contracts or other
subsidies than his comment makes perfect sense.
does the population have the right to know the identities
of contributors to "charities" if they are either domestic
or foreign agents? should foreign agents and government
contractors receive tax exempt status?
when someone is repulsed by intelligent questions
the truth of their agenda and identity is revealed.
fascist with an agenda I say !
'I promise the American people this investigation has just begun,' was the final statement.
Make it so with serious consequences for those who abused power - including Miller who worked for the IRS department which committed the offences prior to his promotion to temporary AC of the IRS. Resigning is insufficient punishment for his failures, and culpability.
for ZHer's consideration:
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For many in the AAPI community, that story is one also marked by lasting inequality and bitter wrongs. Immigrants seeking a better life were often excluded, subject to quotas, or denied citizenship because of their race. Native Hawaiians and Pacific Islanders endured decades of persecution and broken promises. Japanese Americans suffered profoundly under internment during World War II, even as their loved ones fought bravely abroad. And in the last decade, South Asian Americans -- particularly those who are Muslim, Hindu, or Sikh -- have too often faced senseless violence and suspicion due only to the color of their skin or the tenets of their faith.
This year, we recognize the 25th anniversary of the Civil Liberties Act of 1988 and the 70th anniversary of the Chinese Exclusion Act's repeal -- milestones that helped mend deep wounds of systemic discrimination. And with irrepressible determination and optimism, Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders have prevailed over adversity and risen to the top of their fields -- from medicine to business to the bench. But even now, too many hardworking AAPI families face disparities in health care, education, and employment that keep them from getting ahead.
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Meeting those challenges will not be easy. But the history of the AAPI community shows us how with hope and resolve, we can overcome the problems we face. We can reaffirm our legacy as a Nation where all things are possible for all people. So this month, as we recognize Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders who are fulfilling that promise in every corner of our country, let us recommit to giving our children and grandchildren the same opportunity in the years ahead.
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Meanwhile, the IRS within the executive branch headed by the President asked a conservative group: 'What is the content of your prayers?'
Why is this group persecuted while other groups are promoted, contrary to the President's alleged commitment to American values 'in the year of Our Lord 2013' ... and dating back to 2009 according to testimony just heard before Congress on the IRS abuse of power?
Hmmmm?
Need a IRS tax exempt status? Just insert the word mosque into your application form. You’re bound to be dragged to the front of the line.