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Auditing The IRS: "Is There Any Limit To The Scope Where You Folks Can Go?"
While it does have all the impromptu genuineness of a made for C-Span soap opera, the following exchange between Rep. Mile Kelly (PA) and the IRS' commissioner Miller was the highlight of yesterday's grilling of the IRS by the House Ways and Means committee, because rehearsed or not, it does capture the prevalent sentiment the US public harbors not only toward its tax collectors, but the government in general.
"The IRS can do almost anything they want to anybody they want any time they want. This is very chilling for the American people.... This is a Pandora's box that has been opened. The American people should be outraged and they are. This has nothing to do with political parties - this has to do with highly targeted groups. This reconfirms everything that the American public believes. This is a huge blow to the faith and trust the American people have in their government. Is there any limit to the scope of where you folks can go? Is there there any question that you should have asked: how much money do you have in your wallet, who do you get emails from, whose sign do you put up in your front yard: this ia tax question? The fact that you all can do just about anything you want to anybody: you can put anybody out of business any time you want.... I think the American people have seen what's going on right now in the their government. This is absolutely an overreach and this is an outrage for all Americans."
And while contemplating these questions, let's make government even bigger, and also why has that pesky Second amendment not been overturned yet?
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What's Democrats to do with it? Both parties are predominately populated with treasonous tyrants in the top spots.
Democrat vs. Republican is and excellent example of the Hegelian Dialectic in action. The American (and lots of non-American) people are victims.
This red team/blue team stuff is bull. It is us against them.
Obama: ‘If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun’
Of course he didn't know anything about the IRS targeting Tea Partiers.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/06/14/obama-if-they-bring-a-knife-to-the-fight-we-bring-a-gun/
The agenda to eliminate "fringe" groups seems to be progressing nicely. Once we finish the charade of a two party system, this thing will kick into high gear.
Exactly, people around here are focusing on the tea party and patriot angle because it was explicitly stated, but the other 75% of the groups were supposedly political as well, they were targeting everyone who disagreed..
For those living in "Free" countries, this is the precise face of totalitarianism. This is how it happens. Miller's testimony is the face of government elitism and arrogance. They go together.
It is arrogant, partisan, statist leaders and bureaucrats like Miller and his ultimate boss, Obama that initiate this stuff. It trickles down to government drones at their desks saying "I was just doing my job." "I was just following orders.", even though they know it is wrong whether legally or morally.
It is also the unfettered power of bureaucracies which have fewer limits and rules than your justice departments. There are no Miranda rights or recourse when IRS agents show up at your door...armed, I might add. Statist accountants with guns. This is government.
I can say a hundred more things but I will go with just this. Anything less than dozens if not hundreds of people going to jail and losing their jobs is a travesty and a victory for the statists. In the military, you are trained that you never follow an illegal order from a superior. Seems like government robots are not so well trained.
This is how you get a fascist or soviet state from freedom. The ancillary stories that are popping up, now are numbing.
Dissolve the entire IRS from top to bottom and jail the ring leaders for life. This is exactly the stuff that destroys a country.
A lot of my firends think I'm crazy but the Obama agenda mirrors the agenda of Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini etc. They want to take your children at age 4 to start the brainwashing and want you to pay for it. They want to take your guns. They want you to be in endentured servitude thru student loans, car loans, mortgages etc. They want a to track your every move. The question about how much cash you have in your wallet is telling. They can't track cash easily so they would like to eliminate it. They are enlisting Hitler's brownshirts at a young age to go door to door and spread the good word. And believe if you tell them to fuck off your name will be on a list. This stuff is so obvious.
The solution is massive civil disobedience. Refuse to comply. Drop out of their culture, refuse to comply. They can't jail everyone. We can win but it takes sacrifice. Drop your cable, stop eating in their restaurants, go Galt, withold your production. Yes, it will be painful and self sacrifice is required but the alternative is so bad, so stark most americans can't imagine. We are at a crossroads people and you can choose whether you want to live in a free state or a totalitarian state.
i have cut my spending to near zero, except for a few inverse etf's.
+1. UVXY, FAZ, TZA?
Inverse winner!
You're going to full automatically get fleeced, unless you only hold very selective intraday...
Shit, when I held some inverse ETFs in summer 2008, I got paid dividends!
I was dumbfounded and had to research that: yep, Securities Lending holder gets the dividends paid.
Never actually heard when they changed the ETF rules on that.
You know, azzhatter, I would have mildly scoffed at you years ago. Now, I am inclined to agree. My current thinking today is that no IRS agent or other bureaucrat will come through my door alive unless they are accompanied by legal documents and real police. I have actually had an IRS shakedown but it did not involve anything other than letters and me hiring a tax defense agency. I will tell you that I was in mild depression for the whole time. If it has ever happened to you, you realize there are government drones at desks who are impersonal, heartless, soulless and whose mission is nothing less than to make your life hell until you capitulate and pay up. I would say refer to the famous line from Jaws where Quint talks about looking into the dark lifeless eyes of the shark. That is your government bureacracy.
Asshatter, you are not crazy, maybe just ahead of your time and neighbors.
What if tens of thousands of people began every phone call they made with a phrase like "The bomb is in place" or "The Sarin gas will be released tomorrow". If enough people did this every single time they made a call the NSA surveillance computers would go dark repeatedly and frequently, and there wouldn't be enough HSA goons to begin to track everyone down. For those who did get a visit, you were simply repeating what you thought you heard on the news.
During the industrial revolution workers who wanted to resist being replaced by machines would 'drop a spanner in the works' - "accidentally" drop their work tools into the gears of the machines. Americans in the 21st Century who want to resist being enslaved by a creeping governmental and financial tyranny need to discover the equivalent action and do it as frequently as possible.
I think Gandhi would approve, though I could be wrong. I believe that Americans need to find more creative ways to resist passively - angry threats involving guns and violence are just playing into TPTB's strength. Millions making passive resistance an active priority will be far more likely to disrupt the tyrants' objectives than all the heartfelt but ineffective 'out of my cold dead hands' threats. Let's all just go down to the sea and make our own salt.
Take up smoking. Toss a lit cigarette into every trash can you see.
+100
I will also add something more extreme, I think the penalties for this should be just short of the death penalty. I could even argue death penalty in the spirit of Nuremburg. This is the exact stuff that kills nations. This is (free) nation-killing naked authoritariansm. I would personally like to choke the shit out of that arrogant asshole, Miller. I would like to subject him and all his friends and family to never ending midnight visits by government agencies, with audits demanding reports and documentation of their entire lives, everything they have ever said, ever done, ever bought, ever sold, every email, everyone on their phone list, email list, friends on Facebook, high school alumni, grade school friends. I want to know every though he has had, everywhere he has ever been. I want to know the friends of his friends. I want him in virtual hell for the rest of his life and I want the gatekeepers to be all the people he and his fascist IRS drones ever asked for infinite information. All the people who had IRS agents show up at their door essentially because they had the wrong ideas about the benificence of government or they supported those who did. I want Miller in a N. Korean reeducation camp to see firsthand the endpoint of his ideas and arrogance.
I want a perp-walk with Miller in handcuffs.
I want the same for all the other government agencies doing the same damed thing...and you know they are.
Oh, BTW, when we do it, we will just call it "bad customer service", too.
F-king asshole.
epic
Richard Nixon politicized the IRS under the principle of “friend or foe”.
If you were on his enemy list (or a competitor of one of his backers), you got audited into hell.
If you on the friend list, you got a free pass - no audit.
Everyone is asking the wrong question - who got audited and why.
The correct question is: who is or became exempt from tax audits - there is a list.
Actually, Nixon was a piker compared to these guys. This is wholesale willful corrpution by the bureau itself. By the way, Dept. of Labor was in on this, too.
My only rather slight happiness is that this makes a very case for libertarianism. It is not theoretical dark conspiratorial imaginations. It is real and right in front of our eyes.
IRS-Obamacare has politicized health care. Next thing you know there will be different prices at hospitals for Democrats and Republicans. Worse yet, if you are a not a card-carrying Democrat, the ambulance won't go to your house.
Government healthcare is the back door to ruling every aspect of your life. Once you health and healthcare is a collectivist concern you can be ordered to do anything. Interpreted it also means you can be fined, harassed and jailed for anything. There are no limits just like the tax code. Oh, and the nice men at the IRS will run it all.
Imagine life in prison for being a Tea Party member who buys a big gulp.
No he wasn't. He was a sack of shit just like Every President after him. He quit before he could get impeached. Then He got pardoned by another sack of shit. The first bailout.
FDR was The Master of using the IRS to abuse his enemies, specifically Andrew Mellon, the evil rich bastard.
Much like FDR, modern leftists only believe in/allow riches if they come from government. Government is the source of and font of all wealth and organization.
That the persecution of sorts by the IRS was allowed to occur and continue is just further proof that our USSA is on the path of tyranny.
If this isn't a big flashing red light to Americans, I don't know what is.
It would seem we have reached that point where a revolution of sorts is required or the powers that be will have successfully tested the system only to find that they actually CAN do whatever they want to the citizens.
I'm surprised anyone thinks the Government and it's entities can't do anything they want. I've never seen it any other way. Lindsey Graham needs to jump on this, oh wait.
"The fact that you all can do just about anything you want to anybody"
Yep. That describes every branch of the US government. As usual, the whining starts when the whiners realise that they are not in the exceptional group.
If the IRS had CCTV they would put the cameras under the rim of your toilet seats.
The next time you're on a public can look up
The cctv in the ceiling is either an IRS feed or voyeur porn feed
Probably the same people on the other end
Does that mean they will tax the shit out of you?
No, just tax you for taking a shit. Tax you for flushing your shit. And, audit you for giving a shit.
If the terrorists were real, they would bomb the shadow government. All else is state terror on its own people, using patsies. Quite simple and a tactic used for thousands of years. Who here believes the IRS scandal is going somewhere? The IRS did exactly as they always do, and now it is news? Smokescreen for the braindead. Who controls the IRS, who controls the media, who creates money from thin-air? Benghazi could be the focus, but lets not forget the full plate we have been served since the 11th day...
People around the world are really starting to get more than sick and tired of the lies, corruption and treason
This could get very ugly if we're not careful
Watch how quickly the paid thugs vanish when everyone stands up together
99% F*CK Yeah!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQexLYK-X88
Gotta love the guy that orders the servants of the people to stand up
Of course they don't because they have no respect for those that they serve
Try not standing up during a pledge at an f-ing ball game and see what happens to you. I was a Yankee stadium once and a guy didn't stand up and thought the crowd was going to attack him. The cops showed up and escorted him out. Not sure if they arrested him. They're great at making up charges. Maybe disorderly conduct.
When I stand for the anthem, I rise for what our country originally stood for and for what my father fought for and endured in WWII. I stand for what this country was and what it hopefully will be again someday (maybe after an EMP or ?).
I do not stand for what this country has become.
I understand we will soon have an updated national anthem, "99 problems."
This just reminded me that back in junior high, I refused to stand or say the pledge. This caused all sorts of consternation and I had to go talk to the vice principle. It took them a few days but I guess the school talked to a lawyer who told them that there's no law that says anyone needs to say the pledge.
What really surprised me was that not a single person ever joined me. I was just dumbfounded that they were participating in their own brainwashing. I haven't said the pledge since, and in the context of this story, it's just mind-boggling how anyone can say the last line of the pledge and not have a major case of cognitive dissonance.
Kind of reminds me of the girl in Texas that refused to wear an RFID badge. Sad I don't recall anyone else supporting her either except her family.
I don't see why anyone should be required to cite it if they don't want to do it. I don't believe there's a law that requires it. And there are plenty of flag waiving traitors in many countries. I see many politicians in all countries wearing their flag pins on their clothes while they sell their respective countries down the toilet to the NWO for their own benefit.
What should be required by law is that public officials stand up and recite and present their signed oath of office at the start of any event. Maybe just a reminder to them that they work for the people not the other way around.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/01/after-refusing-any-id-even-without-rfid-texas-student-kicked-out-of-school/
I think this whole idea of requiring "allegiance," AKA blind submission to authority, is really one of the core problems we face. The phrase that has been popping into my head over and over again lately is "Good Germans." We know what those "Good Germans" did, and anyone who thinks it can't happen here are wrong.
I was a bit of a pigheaded youth, but the experience of exercising my civil liberties taught me a few important lessons, the most important of which was that "authority" is often not as powerful as they want you to believe. They critically depend on our obedience and compliance, but in many ways are incredibly weak when one pushes back. There are a million ways to resist the machine, but it all begins with pushing back when told to do something, anything, by those who claim "authority" over our lives.
I like your idea for public officials, but increasingly I am taking the view that politics is merely Hollywood for ugly people, and it's all just a show. When I see Carter, Bush Sr, Clinton, W, and O hugging each other, it looks just like the Oscars.
Nothing in this country changes as long as the Federal Reserve and the 16th amendment remain in tact.
This became known as "working towards the Führer"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organization_of_the_Third_Reich
Working towards the Fuhrer [edit]
The government of Nazi Germany gradually formed into a process known as "working towards the Führer". Although Adolf Hitler was the ideological force behind the Third Reich, as leader of the country, he often deferred making decisions, avoided clear delegation and allowed subordinates to compete with one another, especially in the pre-war years. Therefore, a system of government was formed whereby leading Nazi officials were forced to interpret Hitler's speeches, remarks and writings on government policies and turn them into programs and legislation. Any government member could take one of Hitler's comments, and turn it into a new law, of which Hitler would casually either approve or disapprove when he finally heard about it. This became known as "working towards the Führer", as the government was not a co-ordinated, co-operating body, but a collection of individuals each trying to gain more power and influence over the Führer. This often made government very convoluted and divided, especially with Hitler's vague policy of creating a multitude of often very similar posts. The process allowed more unscrupulous and ambitious Nazis to get away with implementing the more radical and extreme elements of Hitler's ideology, such as antisemitism, and in doing so win political favour. Protected by Joseph Goebbels' extremely effective propaganda machine, which portrayed the government as a dedicated, dutiful and efficient outfit, the dog-eat-dog competition, and chaotic legislation was allowed to escalate out of control. Historical opinion is divided between "intentionalists" who believe that Hitler created this system as the only means of ensuring both the total loyalty and dedication of his supporters, and the complete impossibility of a conspiracy; and the "structuralists" who believe that the system evolved by itself, and was a serious limitation on Hitler's supposedly totalitarian power.
I did not know this concept but I believe it very well describes the Obama administration. I indirectly refer to in in my rants. It is also why I think we need a literal government purge of these assholes. All autocratic societies depend on a huge body of people who will sell out their fellow citizens. Personally, I want all the government desk drones who participate to end up like Mussolini. I want to hear "I was just doing my job." a thousand times as we hang the bastards.
Without the IRS, they would have to support themselves exclusively with their Congressional insider trading profits.
Good one!
DO NOT FEED THE IRS BEARS!
Like, OMG! This is so like, news!
'DUCK DUCK GO', before you post on this thread.
Derpa will come knocking on your door with [Will Smith & Tommy Lee Jones] in tow....
As if the junkster has more balls than I do. lol
I don't see a problem. What does one expect from Fascists?
USSA, building the future, one new tax slave, one new bailout at a time!
'Are you not bound by the Constitution ?’ I think is what he meant to ask.
the gub student loan gestapo tries really hard to make you name names...they must know something i know...you can even say, look, i'm not naming names but i'll pay you twice what you're asking...crickets...in end after fighting them they accept their initial payment request...weird.
One can hope that someone or some group will be able to tame the beast. I guess we will see, but I have to say I am not that confident.
Nice speech, and he has passion. Does he (and others like him) have the tenacity to really pursue this to its logical end? Are they really willing to dismantle what the Federal government has become? There will be threats on his life and livelihood, on his family, they will dig up every mistake or illegal activity this guy has ever done and tell him to back off or he is ruined. Or will they just write reports and pass more laws that are indecipherable and interpreted and administered by the nameless, faceless bureaucracy?
And who among us is without sin?
I hope this is the one, the event that spurs the elected body forward to fix it. But only mobs with torches and guns at the steps of the White House, Congress, the IRS, the Fed etc can have any effect in my opinion.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure.
Not this time or any time soon. We will see. sschu
I believe you only end this stuff by reducing government and it's scope. That essentially means you quit asking government to do stuff and eliminate whole agencies. Apart from that, this will happen over and over and they will get better about covering it up.
That's why it's crucial to conquer your pride, and understand that the attacks, although constant, eventually will only act as proof of your interpretation.
BREAKING NEWS:
Less than 50% http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/18/bernanke-address-future-commencement_n_3298685.html
This is important news. Innovation is going to save us, according to an institution that, like the IRS, still runs on fax machines. The chairmans remarks are typically faxed to him. The IRS can do anything it wants, except run a email server. I wonder if Timmay has anything to say to his former master Bernanke about innovation raising the living standards for us all?
http://www.irs.gov/uac/Send-Us-A-Comment-About-the-Web-Site
This country went bankrupt in 1933 and all property, including you, was pledged as collateral. All the gold (assets) were confiscated, and the state of emergency is in effect, and statutes, rules, regulations, and executive order are how the receivership is executed. The IRS is the collection agency for the receivership and can do whatever it wants with their property.
WE aquiesce to this every day by volunteering to get licenses, registrations, forms, and signing them and sending them in. We are fully indentured and on the slave plantation, and those Tobi's who try and jump the fence to freedom are summarily targeted, not only by their slave masters, but mostly by the other slaves themselves who do not want to make waves.
Hail to helicopter Bernanke, Holder, Obummer, Geithner, and the rest of the private agents who operate this corporatocracy for the elite!
Actually it happened long before that....the USA ia a corporation...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVsMUpPgdT0
http://reality-bytes.hubpages.com/hub/The-Corporation-Of-The-United-States-Of-America
http://www.serendipity.li/jsmill/us_corporation.htm
http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/history/american/news.php?q=5224677191ed7f448f691637a13fa00f
http://bit.ly/tJ3f77 We are still under martial law since 1860
Rules for those in power.
1. Stay in power using any means possible.
2. Destroy the opposition.
3. Recruit brainless followers to implement Rule 2.
4. Practice Rule 1.
Rules for government:
1. invent/cause crisis
2. claim crisis resulted from insufficient government
3. expand government power
4. repeat
Looks like the Koch brothers have worked out how to "solve" Detroit:
WINDSOR, Ontario — Assumption Park gives residents of this city lovely views of the Ambassador Bridge and the Detroit skyline. Lately they’ve been treated to another sight: a three-story pile of petroleum coke covering an entire city block on the other side of the Detroit River.
Brian Masse, a member of the Canadian Parliament, wants a bilateral agency to investigate the pile accumulating in Detroit.
Detroit’s ever-growing black mountain is the unloved, unwanted and long overlooked byproduct of Canada’s oil sands boom...
“I’m not making a value statement, but it comes down to emission controls,” Mr. Routt said. “Other people don’t seem to have a problem, which is why it is going to Mexico, which is why it is going to China.”
“One man’s junk is another man’s treasure,” he said. One of the world’s largest dealers of petroleum coke is the Oxbow Corporation, which sells about 11 million tons of fuel-grade coke a year. It is owned by William I. Koch, a brother of David and Charles.[NYT]
If you don't get the hat tip, Oxbow lakes are cut off from the mainstream. And yes, those "other people" really do have a problem; it's called Minamata Disease [NSFL if you're squeemish] or methylmercury poisoning.
Detroit: now dumping our black colored pollutants into it. Yes, we get the Dog Whistle Mr Koch, yes we do, how witty you are.
Oxbow = Preakness Winner
Ah, the Preakness Stakes? Looks like tobacco money with an annoying Americanism of not using the two preceding sires/dams to form a proper portmanteau. Blue Bloods would look down on such commoners' mistakes.[1]
7 out of 7 Oxbow Corp lobbyists in 2012 have previously held government jobs, Total contributions to PACs, parties and outside spending groups: $4,739,500 [Open Secrets].
The "cut off from the mainstream" was snark, but never-mind. Big Business loves the myth of the Independent Financial - Government system, it's all one happy Family.
[1]Breeder Bio: Richard Santulli is former chairman of NetJets, a fractional corporate jet ownership company and currently serves as CEO of Milestone Aviation Group, an aircraft financing company.
After beginning his career at Shell Oil Co., Santulli worked from 1969-79 as an investment banker with Goldman Sachs & Co. He earned bachelor’s and master’s degrees in applied mathematics and operations research from Brooklyn Polytechnic Institute. A steward of The Jockey Club, trustee of the New York Racing Association and member of the Breeders’ Cup Board of Directors, Santulli, 68, has campaigned several stakes winners including Safely Kept, who captured the 1989 Breeders’ Cup Sprint and earned that year’s Eclipse Award as champion sprinter.
That Was My Short Term Investment gift to ZH......$32.80 for 2
Long Term............GOLD = $10,000USD
Abolish The Fed. Abolish the IRS. Jail all the criminals in the political class and financial sector. Close down all the redundant agencies and departments of the government (including Homeland Security, TSA, etc.). Repeal Patriot Act, NDAA, etc.
And just for some satisfaction... Ben Bernanke eviscerated, drawn and quartered, beheaded and boiled in oil.
What exactly is the IRS?
http://www.supremelaw.org/sls/31answers.htm
Good luck auditing the Mafia's collectors. You can't mess with Guido, never mind that income tax was never "ratified" and was supposed to be temporary to support some bullshit war that the Mafia Rockefuckers Rot-childs, etc created in the first place.
What we need is a set of Siamese twins where one pays his taxes and the other doesn't. That will annoy the shit out of them because they won't be able to jail the non-payer.
No offense but y0ur still living in the Pre Bush/Obama world.
Start with Guantanamo
Guilt has nothing to do with the goverment in the USA court system, unless your poor and at best you will get a plea ..
Fair left the USA with the TAX system!
Peace
Is the ruthlessness of the IRS new? Should the IRS target the Boy Scouts or the Hell's Angels? Why not at least a 15% withholding on all stock and bond sales just as for those who exchange their labor for money. Workers carry the heavier burden. What about those who actually have income by definition? Why do we deserve special treatment enabling us to use untaxed dollars to derive more income all year long until receiving special tax treatment at the end of the year and then "calculating" our income? Consider the case of a credit card bank. Capital One may issue a $500 limit card to anyone in your trailer court immediately after bankruptcy. They may charge an application fee that appears in the unopened first statement. If no statements are opened after 6 months (thinking that no charges were made--no bill is due), the bill for the unused card is over $500 inclusive of the application fee, the late fees, the over-the-limit fees and escalating interest often over 30%. If the card is maximized at $500 and unpaid, the total write off can be over $1200. Upon writing this "loan" off as a bad debt, COF reduces their "income" by the loss amount. Credit card banks create their own income tax liability. Buy these high ROE banks as the tax liability is almost up to them by tax advantage alone. If these banks were targeted for conspiring to influence tax legislation through a .org, would you stand with them? Republicans did when they voted for Bush in 2000. Their bankruptcy reform legislation was the first on the agenda.
What would the founding fathers say about the IRS?
"IRS delendum est."
Or maybe just, "Doh!"
They'd say "Get several ropes....
Grandstanding B.S. This has been going on for decades and everyone has known about it, especially those in power. It's a slam-dunk prediction that zero changes will be made in our favor as a result of any of these "investigations." Don't be surprised when the IRS [officially] teams up with Google to squeeze even more info from us.
https://twitter.com/BananaRepublyc/status/335548382045151232
We need ten more additions to the Bill of Rights
Freedom from racial classification
Freedom from government surveillance and data collection
Freedom of association
Freedom of movement
freedom to possess
freedom to consume
freedom to create and manufacture
freedom to know the existence of, and have access to all government information
freedom to contract
freedom to take risk
We already have those rights because they were not delegated to the government in the Constitution.
Gee, pal, I've done more money than all my three husbands and going.
THIS THEATRE BORES ME
Gut the place ...
Instead of layering new law upon new law, and having to pass the laws so we know what's in them, we need a radical restructuring ... from top to bottom.
Start with the tax law quagmire.
Lets make the IRS go away!
And who or what will replace the IRS you ask?
Why the DHS of course!!
inversely proportional to the number of guillotines and firing squads.
The IRS story is a coverup foe the Benghazi story.
#INTIMOGATE
They are not mutually exclusive.
People need to stop viewing them separately, and instead understand the depth of corruption and abuse of power of the Nixon Administration.
The what Administration?
Nice performing. It doesn't go beyond that in the US gvt. Just circus.
It all sounds nice but you must be a voter to see it as anything else but a political posturing. Nothing will come out of it.
Politician chest banging never works.
Government really is following the Consitution on taxes! The Consitution speaks on behalf of "Public Money", but has nothing to say about a "Private Currency". Why list it as Money when they are on a "Credit system". Read the Law, and of course a Legal dictionary, and you will find out that everyone is deemed a "Banker" and a "Law Merchant", thus we are all Fiduciaries. Now factor that we have no choice in our currencies anymore, so it is no longer a benifit privlige, to use Private Notes. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/12/411 Now where in that law, does it tell people to use those things? Your indorsing your pay checks incorrectly! They cannot be redeemed for lawful money anymore. Site that law, and deposit for Credits only, dba ALL CAP NAME- By: and sign your fictional name.
Some have suggested, but I haven't personally tried this, to Deposit, Redeem for Lawful Money, 12 USC 411, because the bank now has to purchase Money from Treasury and it cost the banks money, and they cannot Fractionalize it.
yes yes an outrage indeed .....tomorrow it will be business as usual ...off with their heads !
Congress holds hearings to scold the IRS for enforcing the stupid tax laws written by Congress. Hilarious.
it is the quid pro quo for when levin went off on blankfein a few years back....
Just the tip of the iceberg. IRS shares info with the DHS and all those donor lists are also getting passed along to private parties. Persecutions and crackdown of the violent sort yet to come. Loverly. Thanks IRS.
We already know Big Sis has been doing the same thing as the IRS, targeting and demonizing law abiding Americans since her appointment in 2009. Meanwhile, DHS manuals actually instruct local LEOs to get Islamic sensitivity training from radical muslims, not moderate muslims... I kid you not... so they "will have a better understanding of 'Sharia'."
Interesting FYIs:
IRS has about 150,000 employees who are members of the NTEU (National Treasury Employee Union) and raised about $400,000 for political campaigns and only gave $1000 to a Republican -- $382,000 went to democrats, especially those running against Tea Party candidates.
IRS has a long history of illegally leaking donor lists and and private tax info to private parties including the donor lists to those in California opposed to gay marriage resulting in a gay website with graphic targets of those donors opposed to the gay marriage referendum, indicating the donors' residences, places of business, and churches. Over 450 documented cases of violence and vandalism were perpetrated upon those opposed to gay marriage during the referedum campaign.
It's interesting to me that the government has been wiretapping and reading the emails of 300 million Americans (and moar) but the AP only now got upset when it happened to 20 of their phone lines. They couldn't previously be bothered to report the growing fascism, I suppose because thought they were immune since they have been carrying Obama's water.
Yes, accountability both on the part of the government and its citizens is long overdue. Those who are not filing, illegally understating taxes due, engaging in major tax protestor activity and consider Gordon Kahl, Lynn Meredith, Irwin Schiff, Ed and Elaine Brown, and others who have taken violent action against the government, are not part of the solution. Two wrongs don't make right.
"Two wrongs don't make right."
Who said we have two wrongs?
I for one am tired of the faked outrage at fake hearings. Congress doesn't have the balls to do anything other than waste people's time. "Quick, look at the fake scandal over here while we let Wall Steet and the Federal Reserve rob you blind and we start another war or two!!"
Why pay taxes if the Government has the ability to print it's own money? They don't need you to file and pay anything. Think about that.
They tax because they like slaves...and they can use the IRS to punish enemies.
Shit even Piers Morgan backtracked on gun control and admits the government and specifically the IRS and DOJ are 'BORDERING' (if there ever was a liberal left admission of wrongness this is it) on tyranny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pbL_mYcz7kY
I'll believe Americans are "outraged" when they stop paying their taxes!
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/05/18/304101/video-shows-israeli-comma...
What is notable are the comments. The majority if not all are only awakened comments condemning these evil actions by isreal.
Looks like there is a lot of build up of armed forces to strike poor Syria, another innocent country on the neo-cons PNAC list. Is this what the 666 warning was about? Will Monday open the news week with some sort of attack or God forbid, another false flag event sponsored by isreal and the babylonian rouge govt to cover up Benghazigate and boston?
Stay tunes ladies and gentlemen. The show seems about to begin towards the end of it all.
Liberty and Equality?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKxCWheH5Vk (1:25)
Milton Friedman - Equality and Freedom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCnxOICRtLE (56:23)
Uncle Milty is my hero
Good for Rep. Kelly! Now do something about it. JAIL THE BASTARDS AND END THE FED,,,FOREVER!
C-span is not the same without Brian Lamb.
Abolish the IRS and give all of the employees a one way ticket to North Korea.
IRS says: Senators told us to do it!
Where's the letter from the IRS legal department back to the Senators telling them
that their suggestions and requests are ILLEGAL!
This IRS thing gets even better.....
http://redflagnews.com/headlines/shock-disabled-veterans-targeted-have-c...
(Kevin E. Lake) -- Recently, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) has come under attack for malicious treatment of certain U.S. citizens and groups by singling them out based upon their personal political preferences. At this time, it is still unclear where the direct orders came from to initiate such heinous activities, but what is crystal clear is that this type of activity is not new for the IRS.
The IRS has mastered the art of breaking their own laws, one case in particular; using banks to launder and then steal disabled veterans' disability checks.
The Veterans Disability Act of 2010 is a Federal law which exempts VA disability from withholding of any sort. Actually, existing code USC, Title 38, §5301 already protected VA disability from withholding, but this provision was re-iterated and included in the newer legislation of 2010, because too many civil court judges were legislating from the bench and including veterans' disability monies as earned income and granting it to ex-spouses (men and women) in divorce proceedings, at times, leaving disabled veterans without any safety net for self-care.
However, the IRS is still figuring out ways to get to a veteran's disability money. How do I know? Recently, it happened to me.
A couple of months ago, when I logged into my online bank account to make sure that my VA disability check had been deposited (I am a 60% disabled veteran of the Iraq War) I saw red and a negative balance, beside which read the word "hold."
I called my bank and was informed that the IRS had sent a letter demanding that the bank take all of the available funds out of my account on the first day of the month and then wire them to them. The bank gave me a telephone number at which to call the IRS. After being placed on hold for a very long time- long as in a biblical age- I finally spoke with an agent.
Long story short; they claim I made $157,000 in 2010 and that I owe them tons of money, and that until I pay it, a lien will remain on my personal bank account.
At the beginning of 2010, I was still in the hospital recovering from injuries I'd sustained while serving in Iraq. I was released early in the year, but still did not find employment until October, and even then, it was only part time. I can assure you, as I did the IRS, that I did not earn $157,000.00. Actually, I earned less than $10,000.00 in 2010.
I kindly read the federal code mentioned above to the lady I spoke with at the IRS, reminding her that VA disability money is 100% exempt. She placed me on hold for another age (I could see a man coming- bearing water- over the horizon) and then she came back on the line and told me, "We do not take veterans' disability money. We wait until the funds are deposited from the VA and then we take all of the funds from your bank account."
Um.
Isn't this called laundering?
I find it ironic, now, that only weeks before the IRS put this hold on my bank account, I'd been asked to be a contributing writer for key Tea Party personality "Joe the Plumber." I'd been writing freelance articles on veterans affairs for some time, publishing and distributing them mostly through Facebook, and I viewed the personal call Joe made to me as one of the greatest compliments I'd been paid in regard to those articles. I jumped at the opportunity to join his team and give my work, such as this piece, a wider audience. I can't help but think that part of my decision to join Joe's team may have played a part in being singled out by the IRS at this specific time and having my VA disability money taken from me in complete breach of federal law.
The good news is that through my persistence, and my refusal to accept their answer, that it is okay to launder VA disability money, I was able to get the IRS to refund all of the money they'd taken from my bank. I am working with the IRS to remedy their great misunderstanding of my earnings for 2010, and I am reaching out to all disabled veterans to let them know that if this is happening to them, they do have rights, and they need to stand up for them.
As many veterans know, our war does not stop once we make it home. Often, new battles begin, such as battles for the rights our government promised they'd provide for us upon our return from war that they often turn around and attempt to take away.
Currently in America, twenty two veterans a day are committing suicide. One of the biggest contributors to the suicide epidemic is our veterans' inability to find suitable work after serving and the inability to take care of themselves and their families financially. This is why VA disability is sacred- except in the eyes of the IRS. Too many disabled veterans in the U.S. are just a disability check away from being on the street and joining the already nearly 70,000 homeless veterans in America.
If you are a veteran receiving disability from the VA, and you are having it garnished, withheld, or having a lien placed upon it for any reason, please contact the entity who is withholding, garnishing, or who has placed the lien, and reference the federal code stated earlier in this article. You stood up for the rights of all people of a great nation in combat, but unfortunately, you must continue to stand up for yourselves to ensure that the promises of being taken care of upon your return are kept. But you can do it, because you are a warrior, and that's what warriors do.
A soldier fights for the flag and his brothers-in-arms and no one else.
I had my problems after Vietnam, but nothing like yours.
Everyone reading this should take pause to remember:
The Government is not your friend.
Stand tall. Use every rule and regulation to your advantage.
Do not give up. Steel your resolve.
You need the same tenacity of mind to survive at home that you had when surviving overseas.
I wish you all of the best.
2/101st RSV 68' - 69'
Thank you for posting this ---This story made my head want to explode. These IRS bastards need to be jailed. To me, this conduct is another form of domestic terrorism!
Attitude duly noted ... for future reference
As posted by others, the IRS is a bunch of Gestopo Nazis!
With this administration I might have to consider using a browser proxy for privacy!
http://hidemyass.com/proxy-list/
So abolish the IRS and let's call it a day! So, this Rep just chewed the IRS for 5 minutes and that was that. Fuck, I could have done that. Impeach Obama and do away with the IRS. Now that would be worth writing home to mom about.
They shoudl be investigate for not auditing the unions or church exempt status!
What "faith and trust in government?" Uncle Sam is a shill for the fraud banks!
Widowmaker has said it a million times -- fraud fiat is dead, worldwide. That goose is stuffed.
There is zero confidence in the fraud-dollar and the "elite" addicted to it. It is a mechanism of oppression, organized crime and political racketeering.
Flush DC, END THE FED and make the faggots of finance pay dearly.
Mr Kelly deserved the ovation. The IRS behaves like a Nazi, and should be held accountable - every man and woman that allowed its abuse of power.
Arrivestes beware.
http://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?flash=old&doc=57
16th Amendment 1913
Amendment XVIThe Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration
The Federal Reserve Act (ch. 6, 38 Stat. 251, enacted December 23, 1913
Funny how the two come together and are used in a highly partisan manner
WOW!
The Tiny Dot.