What Did Obama Know About The IRS (And When)?

Tyler Durden's picture

Amid the sound and fury of yesterday's IRS hearing were a few small tidbits which raise significant questions about who knew what and when within the Obama administration. While getting the answer (the real honest truth) is highly unlikely, as the Wall Street Journal notes, the IRS's watchdog told top Treasury officials around June 2012 (when Republican lawmakers were complaining publicly about alleged IRS targeting of tea-party groups) he was investigating allegations the tax agency had targeted conservative groups, for the first time indicating that Obama administration officials were aware of the explosive matter in the midst of the president's re-election campaign. The revelation nonetheless raised a fresh set of questions about who was aware of the problem within the Obama administration. However, the hearing left numerous other fundamental questions unanswered, including who ordered the targeting and why it continued so long, pointing to a protracted investigation ahead as Rep. Paul Ryan exclaimed, "how can we not conclude that you misled this committee?" As Doug Ross' full timeline below suggests, this is fascism on the part of the IRS and White House...


Via Doug Ross of Director Blue blog,

Reading this timeline, I have come to three conclusions:


  1. Steve Miller lied to Congress
  2. Lois Lerner lied to Congress
  3. Barack Obama lied to the American people

This scandal has the fingerprints of Axelrod, Jarrett and/or the Chicago Machine all over it.

This is fascism on the part of the IRS and the White House. It is fascism, straight up.

Or, as I call the IRS: Organizing for Revenue.


Via The Wall Street Journal,

The Internal Revenue Service's watchdog told top Treasury officials around June 2012 he was investigating allegations the tax agency had targeted conservative groups...




The revelation nonetheless raised a fresh set of questions about who was aware of the problem within the Obama administration.




the agency had taken "absolutely inappropriate" actions in targeting conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status for often heavy-handed scrutiny.




The hearing left numerous other fundamental questions unanswered, however, including who ordered the targeting and why it continued so long, pointing to a protracted investigation ahead. Mr. Miller conceded the agency likely disciplined the wrong employee in one effort to address the problem.




House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp (R., Mich.), "I think the most interesting revelation was the overall arrogance of the IRS and the lack of information from somebody who was in charge,"




White House officials say they learned about the targeting of conservative groups from the report, and not before. President Barack Obama on Thursday said, "I can assure you that I certainly did not know anything about the IG report before the IG report had been leaked through the press."




At the hearing, lawmakers of both parties expressed anger that IRS officials didn't reveal the problems to them in 2012.




then-commissioner Douglas Shulman about that in March 2012. He testified before the Ways and Means committee then that there was "absolutely no targeting,"...




"Throughout this time, the IRS leadership has demonstrated a total disregard for the oversight role of the Congress and this committee," said Rep. Sander Levin




"How was that not misleading this committee?" said Rep. Paul Ryan (R., Wis.) to Mr. Miller. "How can we not conclude that you misled this committee?"



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LetThemEatRand's picture

Obama should be impeached for not knowing.

Obama should be impeached for knowing and covering it up.

Obama should be impeached for not knowing and covering it up.

Obama should be impeached for probably 20 other things we don't even know about.

If he's impeached, it's because they have a reason that has nothing to do with the list above.

Bollixed's picture

I upped you even though the thought of that idiot Biden getting to run the show makes me puke. Obozo replaced by the real Bozo...

LetThemEatRand's picture

Biden is from Delaware, which happens to be where many large banks, credit card issuers and other financial (and large non-financial) corporations are incorporated.  He would never be elected Prez on his own accord.  Wonder why he was chosen for VP after the 2007 melt-down?

sunaJ's picture

The problem with shoddy (amoral at best) artifice is that it crumbles so easily.


EDIT:  Wait, did I say 'problem with'?  I meant, 'benefit of'.  Expect more.  Much more.

Isotope's picture

Obama can never be impeached. He is The One, our first minority president. He could walk out on the whitehouse lawn, gutshoot a blind ten year old girl, and dump her alive into a vat of molten iron, and nothing would be done.

Skateboarder's picture

His real name is ClintBush ObaNix Keynesvelt

AlaricBalth's picture

"This scandal has the fingerprints of Axelrod, Jarrett and/or the Chicago Machine all over it."

I wonder where I heard that 3 days ago?
{This IRS scandal has Valerie Jarrett's fingerprints all over it.}


Meat Hammer's picture

“After we win this election, it’s our turn. Payback time. Everyone not with us is against us, and they better be ready, because we don’t forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded; the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve..."  - Valerie Jarrett

LetThemEatRand's picture

"If you're not with us, you're against us."  GW Bush.  History repeats, rhymes, and repeats and rhymes until you let the groundhog drive you off a fiscal cliff.

G-R-U-N-T's picture

Fuck you LTER! I see you as a liberal troll with the usual head up your ass, blame Bush bullshit. You can take your statist mind-set and shove it up your brown eye, bitch!



Manthong's picture

“What Did Obama Know About The IRS (And When)?”

Before the last election, of course, but no big deal because the alternative would have been just as much in the banker's bag as the present shill.

Supernova Born's picture

Obama's voters RECEIVE money collected by the IRS, the don't EVER write a check to the IRS.

The IRS is THE "benefits collector" for the modal Obama voter.

Why should a net receiver of entitlements have any issue wih ANY level of coercion used to collect THEIR ENTITLEMENTS?

The better the modal Obama voter understands what has happened the LESS they will care.

GetZeeGold's picture



I would assume Obama knew about it before he gave the initial order.

Bearwagon's picture

Do you mean his masters knew about it before they ordered him to give the initial order? ;-)

GetZeeGold's picture




You can go ask them.....you might even make it back alive.

Bearwagon's picture

Unfortunately I can not go ask them. They have a somewhat rigid "shoes and shirts policy" at that place ...  ;)

GetZeeGold's picture


I heard that....those dress robes are wicked expensive.

economics9698's picture

Obama will be impeached when the Jews get tired of his ass, and not a day sooner.

Rick64's picture

 Get the popcorn, dog and pony show coming right up. Presidents have lied, used gov. agencies for their benefit, and covered up all through history. Politicians are usually liars. 

GetZeeGold's picture



It's almost like we need a marxist revolution....but only in reverse.

Bearwagon's picture

How about some evolution?

Bendromeda Strain's picture

"If you're not with us, you're against us."  GW Bush.  History repeats, rhymes, and repeats and rhymes until you let the groundhog drive you off a fiscal cliff.

I hate defending Bush, but against the likes of you, I guess it must be done. Equating what he said in its context ("us" being all Americans and so-called "free peoples" in general) to what Jarret said in its context (political enemies list) shows you to be a dishonest little imp, of the reptilian variety. Maybe you can pinch hit for Carney after he cracks up from the strain.

Esso's picture

Is "reptilian variety" code word for "CheesePope"?

ATM's picture

of course. she runs the place and is a little communist cunt. 

LetThemEatRand's picture

"He could walk out on the whitehouse lawn, gutshoot a blind ten year old girl, and dump her alive into a vat of molten iron, and nothing would be done."

I beg to differ.  I'm pretty sure they'll come up with a Nobel for him if he does that to sit next to his Nobel Pieces of Humans prize.

jekyll island's picture

This article misses the point, the sheeple don't care if Obamma lied, we've already been down that path.  The big problem for him will be spying on the AP and tapping their phones.  The liberal media has been in his pocket from the beginning, if they turn on him, well, no one will spin away the next Benghazi on his behalf. 

LetThemEatRand's picture

You mean the liberal media owned by GE, Viacom, etc?  There's no such thing as liberal media.  The MSM is owned by a few huge corporations that wish to maintain the status quo, which includes a game called Red Team vs. Blue Team.  It's even more popular than Monday Night football.

Chupacabra-322's picture

Forget this IRS bullshit distraction. He's a Criminal Trsonist of the highest order. This is distraction from his murder of four Americans in Bengazi.

Fast & Furious
War crimes Muder Drones Strikes
Illegal wars of aggression
Illegal Wire Tapping
Arming funding & training the same terrorist AL CIA duh groups through NATO & Turkey they claim to be protecting us from. TREASON!!!

CIA drug running & money laundering throught the TBTFB.

Economic terrorism
MF Global

LetThemEatRand's picture

And that's just the shit we know about.

BoNeSxxx's picture

Did you catch the little slip in Holder's testimony on AP-Gate last week?

He claimed that the record gathering on AP reporters was because of a 'credible threat against the safety of the American people'. Then, moments later, he said that Obummer didn't know about the inquiry into AP phone records until he read about it the same day as the rest of us.

Obviously something stinks... either our executive branch appointees don't tell our president when there are credible threats against the American people or... the asshole knew all along.  These people can't be this stoopid, can they? (/s)

LetThemEatRand's picture

Putting all of that aside [because of course Obama knew, or if he didn't it just proves he's a puppet of those who did], I just can't believe that a single human on the planet who is not in the memory wing of dementia plaza thinks that it would be okay under ANY circumstances to bug the Press for "national security" reasons.

Manthong's picture

There is only one truth.

Everything this administration has done after Apriil 27, 2011 is illicit as a result of the constructed layered graphics file posted and presented to the nation as an official document as proof of legitimacy of the choomer-in-chief.

Q. f’n E. D.

noless's picture

I still can't believe that happened and wasn't an issue for some reason..

Clashfan's picture

Nor could I believe that anyone with half a brain doesn't think that it doesn't happen all of the time, under any adminstration.

The Heart's picture

 "These people can't be this stoopid, can they? (/s)"

No, but as Everybody Knows, they the puppetry can be this corrupt and criminalistic in the deeds and actions that manifest from the banksters play book.

The dis/mis-information people get from the babylonians is the crux and major clog in the whole log jam that is more responsible for the mass mind being so controlled and manipulated than anything. One holds a vision that there are worlds where this is non-existent, and the media of those worlds really do the job they have the tiles for. They actuality report the truth, which is far more interesting that than outdated 3-D lies & deceptions for the greedy gains and agendas of the few. How darn monkey-man is that? Eeep eeepp~!

Maybe there is hope that before it all falls completely apart, the truth will shine it's light brighter than the constant lies and distortions in the news organizations. These supposed leaders should tell the American people the truths about banksterism and let the people decide how much longer the world should be held in the prisons of the debt-money-god. Sure not holding the breath on that one for sure, eh!


Meanwhile, back to more important things. Look...up in the sky...it's a....

chubbar's picture

Speaking of "Dick" Holder and the DOJ, here's a snippet of the latest shit they are pulling on their employees over there, soon to be in a workplace near you.


"Our sources have provided Liberty Counsel an internal DOJ document titled: “LGBT Inclusion at Work: The 7 Habits of Highly Effective Managers.” It was emailed to DOJ managers in advance of the left’s so-called “Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender (LGBT) Pride Month.”

The document is chilling. It’s riddled with directives that grossly violate – prima facie –employees’ First Amendment liberties.

Following are excerpts from the “DOJ Pride” decree. When it comes to “LGBT pride,” employees are ordered:

  • “DON’T judge or remain silent. Silence will be interpreted as disapproval.” (Italics mine)

That’s a threat.

And not even a subtle one.

Got it? For Christians and other morals-minded federal employees, it’s no longer enough to just shut up and “stay in the closet” – to live your life in silent recognition of biblical principles (which, by itself, is unlawful constraint). When it comes to mandatory celebration of homosexual and cross-dressing behaviors, “silence will be interpreted as disapproval.”

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/05/doj-on-gays-silence-will-be-interpreted-as-disapproval/#8GXPz5S47zZuhVcv.99


pods's picture

That's fine, when your team takes over they can cram their version of morality down our throats.

Not that I like jumping into this mud, but exactly how are first amendment rights being violated here?

Working for anyone, even the Imperial Federal Government, is not a right.  It is a privilege.

Said privilege may have constraints attached to it.

Am I incorrect here?


Buckaroo Banzai's picture

Sodomy is filthy and deranged. It's no accident that it is associated with the Left.

pods's picture

And the only comment I get is a simple canned Left-Right one?

Might be about that time.



Isotope's picture

"Qui tacet consentiret videtur" (Who is silent is seen to consent). This is an a ancient principle that has been recognized in both legal and diplomatic context to this day. Apparently the people in charge at the "Department of Justice" are either unaware or willfully ignorant of this.

Note that this is the norm in North Korea, where if you don't turn out to cheer at a state event, you go to the Gulag to die.

Chupacabra-322's picture

This is nothing more than the Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Carter criminal Western Crime Syndicate. If your a sitting or former President you should be wearing an Orange jumpsuit.

disabledvet's picture

again "the keyword is BI partisan." in order for removal to be the word both parties must agree to it. this is the ULTIMATE in political decisions...the bar for impeachment since Clinton seems rather low actually. thus i turn my attention to POLICY decisions that are being made (response to the Boston Massacre, oversight of the media, review of policy decisions vis a vis Israel) as paramount in these matters. In short "blowing off McCain/Feinstein is a bad idea." did i say repeatedly? with the lowest turnout election since the Great Depression the publius is hungry for something big and public...there is no better way than a good fashioned "arrogance of power" regime since by its very nature power is arrogant..."but must be expressed appropriately." good luck with that. from where i'm sitting this thing is wide open right now and could go anywhere. as i've maintained a consistently uber bullish view on equities since the low in 2008 so i have maintained a consistent view that doing anything that pisses off pure military is a REALLY bad idea. unlike Vietnam where when we left "it was over" this one is going to last 1000 years "and has only just begun." it is again in my view a war of choice...there were no WMD's in Iraq. "don't be the one held responsible for it." just my personal view of course...still waiting for those who think otherwise of course. easy to get caught in the trap of "all American wars end" as everyone till this one have of course.

i-dog's picture


Whyd'ja skip Nixon, Johnson, Eisenhower and Truman?

Chupacabra-322's picture

He's dead. As are the other Criminals burning in hell.

infinity8's picture

'Cause he's dead. WTF-ever.