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Ron Paul: "The IRS’s Job Is To Violate Our Liberties"

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From Ron Paul

The IRS’s Job Is To Violate Our Liberties

“What do you expect when you target the President?” This is what an Internal Revenue Service (IRS) agent allegedly said to the head of a conservative organization that was being audited after calling for the impeachment of then-President Clinton. Recent revelations that IRS agents gave “special scrutiny” to organizations opposed to the current administration’s policies suggest that many in the IRS still believe harassing the President’s opponents is part of their job.

As troubling as these recent reports are, it would be a grave mistake to think that IRS harassment of opponents of the incumbent President is a modern, or a partisan, phenomenon. As scholar Burton Folsom pointed out in his book New Deal or Raw Deal, IRS agents in the 1930s where essentially “hit squads” against opponents of the New Deal. It is well-known that the administrations of John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson used the IRS to silence their critics. One of the articles of impeachment drawn up against Richard Nixon dealt with his use of the IRS to harass his political enemies. Allegations of IRS abuses were common during the Clinton administration, and just this week some of the current administration’s defenders recalled that antiwar and progressive groups alleged harassment by the IRS during the Bush presidency.

The bipartisan tradition of using the IRS as a tool to harass political opponents suggests that the problem is deeper than just a few “rogue” IRS agents—or even corruption within one, two, three or many administrations. Instead, the problem lays in the extraordinary power the tax system grants the IRS.

The IRS routinely obtains information about how we earn a living, what investments we make, what we spend on ourselves and our families, and even what charitable and religious organizations we support. Starting next year, the IRS will be collecting personally identifiable health insurance information in order to ensure we are complying with Obamacare’s mandates.

The current tax laws even give the IRS power to marginalize any educational, political, or even religious organizations whose goals, beliefs, and values are not favored by the current regime by denying those organizations “tax-free” status. This is the root of the latest scandal involving the IRS.

Considering the type of power the IRS excises over the American people, and the propensity of those who hold power to violate liberty, it is surprising we do not hear about more cases of politically-motivated IRS harassment. As the first US Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall said, “The power to tax is the power to destroy” — and who better to destroy than one’s political enemies?

The US flourished for over 120 years without an income tax, and our liberty and prosperity will only benefit from getting rid of the current tax system. The federal government will get along just fine without its immoral claim on the fruits of our labor, particularly if the elimination of federal income taxes are accompanied by serious reduction in all areas of spending, starting with the military spending beloved by so many who claim to be opponents of high taxes and big government.

While it is important for Congress to investigate the most recent scandal and ensure all involved are held accountable, we cannot pretend that the problem is a few bad actors. The very purpose of the IRS is to transfer wealth from one group to another while violating our liberties in the process, thus the only way Congress can protect our freedoms is to repeal the income tax and shutter the doors of the IRS once and for all.

 

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Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:39 | 3580174 slaughterer
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If only RP were in the White House.  If only...

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:44 | 3580191 SilverIsKing
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The truth is that if RP had been elected President, his white house would have been about 7 feet long, 2.5 feet wide, and 3 feet tall.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:59 | 3580256 Going Loco
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RP being president was always about as likely as Congress protecting freedoms, repealing the income tax, and shuttering the doors of the IRS once and for all. Such things never happen.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:09 | 3580287 fuu
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RON PAUL!

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:12 | 3580298 DaveyJones
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They're doing a great job cause every day I feel more and more violated

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:23 | 3580344 Boris Alatovkrap
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Ah, poor Amerikan citizen is rape and violate by government... sob... welcome to "rest of world"! You have it all and elect abject amateur for president of great free nation. Why is surprise when SHTF and get soiled!?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:26 | 3580357 BeepBeepImAJeep
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RP literally potato

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:35 | 3580390 King_of_simpletons
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As the first US Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall said

Obviously nothing changed after he said that. So I suggest we conserve our energy by shutting the fuck up, as they say.

 

 

 

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:40 | 3580417 pmbug
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Well, once Sweden and the "US experiment in Nigeria" have laid the groundwork, the USA may transition into a cashless society.  And then FedGov won't need the IRS any more.  They will be replaced by computers. 

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 14:57 | 3581246 Jack Napier
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Boris is so good at being bad with English that it makes me want to save all his posts and make a How-To Guide. Keep it coming!

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 16:42 | 3581661 Anusocracy
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Culling out the 'un-antlike' is how an ant colony evolved.

That is basically what government's effect on Homo sapiens is moving us towards.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:39 | 3580411 iDealMeat
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Mr. Paul,  How about actually calling some people out instead of throwing softballs at some institution?

How about publicly calling for Jon Corzine's (MF Global, GS, Obama Bundler) arrest? You could have

pulled that card and gone full M.A.D. during the election and probably prevented a lot of what is and has

happened.

 

Your just as at fault as any of them.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:41 | 3580421 kralizec
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I'd prefer he lead the mob burning the bums out, but maybe that's just my fantasy...

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 13:01 | 3580781 rustymason
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Pretty easy to criticize RP from your keyboard. You cannot criticize him for stuff he has done, so criticize him for not being Superman and not having done everything. RP is one honest man in a very large coven of murderous witches. It's hard enough just to stay alive, much less be your savior.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 13:24 | 3580888 iDealMeat
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Funny that I get junked for criticizing RP.  He was in govt for what ?40 years? Yes, he does have some integrity, intelligence, and some honesty.. He was chairman of the Domestic Monetary Policy Subcommittee and Never called on the Bernank or Corzine to explain themselves..  MF Global was the 22'd primary dealer for the FED that went Bankrupt for fuck sakes.. What was more of opportunity to act upon his beliefs regarding the FED?

He's been around the "murderous witches" long enough to know who is behind JFK.. He's smart enough to know that Building 7 didn't just burn down..

How about calling some bitches out?

 

He's a player..  Feeding your false sense of hope you have for any constitutional freedoms..

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 13:57 | 3581024 rustymason
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You know nothing about RP but criticize him intensely, just like that psychotic blowhard Karl Denniger. I've been following RP for over ten years now. I've been to his talks, I have talked to him, and I have read dozens of his articles, I watched him many times on TV and listened to him on the radio. I have investigated the bills he has sponsored, the committees he has chaired, and the "movements" he has worked in or lent help to. A more honest, hard-working man you will not find in Washington. You should try actually knowing something about what he has done and the hard time that other politicians have always given him over the years, and how he is always the last man standing against any bill that is unconstitutional. The MSM, D.C., the Israel lobby, and the banksters are his bitter enemies. Oh, and you, too.

He is one of the few people who constantly criticize the Fed and the IRS, but that it not enough for you. What do you want? His blood?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 14:26 | 3581120 iDealMeat
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You're right, frankly..  I really don't know much about RP..  I don't care.. No.. I don't want any of his blood. I want some accountability..  and WOW, It seems you're pretty enamored with the good Dr. Paul.

You know who else He's had quite an impression on?  His own Son, Rand.. 

 

Oh...., wait...  never mind.

 

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 15:01 | 3581258 Jack Napier
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All I want is for Ron Paul to admit his a masonic plant for controlled opposition. His entire family is in it except for him and Rand. That way they have plausible deniability.

iDealMeat is right. Paul was in politics for 3 decades. What change did he ever make? Idealism is great and all but it doesn't get things done. HR1207 to Audit the Fed was a joke, no teeth, nothing promised was ever delivered. He's shining us on.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 15:05 | 3581285 DosZap
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iDealMeat is right. Paul was in politics for 3 decades. What change did he ever make? Idealism is great and all but it doesn't get things done. HR1207 to Audit the Fed was a joke, no teeth, nothing promised was ever delivered. He's shining us on.

 

Get real, ONE Representative can do NOTHING!,he has been the LONE voice in the wilderness up in that shithole for 30yrs.

 

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 15:15 | 3581297 Jack Napier
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If any you guys follow Dr. Paul as closely as I have you will remember how popular HR1207 was to finally audit the Fed. All the C4L peeps were counting the congressional votes cheering every step of the way (I was one of them for a time), and then it gets gutted in the 11th hour and no audit has ever taken place. That's bullshit. I dropped the Paul ticket like a hot rock after that.

A lone voice isn't going to get anything done except to placate people.

If he was serious about getting elected he never would have run as a Republican as it was obvious he'd never get the party nomination, and wouldn't have run off with all those money bombs without even seeing through a candidacy.

His wife and daughters are practicing freemasons, and so was his father. His job is to keep you complacent. He is the vampire killer, Bernanke is the vampire, and they're both marionettes in this play.

Ron and Rand are both career politicians. Rand was even willing to support Romney in spite of his Bain Capital history just to have a longshot at VP. They are just getting theirs like everybody else.

I don't enjoy ripping these guys apart but I was duped by them until I did enough due diligence. There isn't anybody out there who's going to be our champion. We have to do it ourselves.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 15:29 | 3581386 iDealMeat
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+1, The one thing the "Leaders" hate is losing their followers..  The system simply is not fixable. Not worth it to lose days/years of your life by stressing about it.

Cut your consumption in half, sit back, and enjoy the show as the elite turn on one another.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 17:02 | 3581721 Winston Smith 2009
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"You know nothing about RP but criticize him intensely"

That wasn't directed at me, but to it I say, RP was the chairman of this committe and what did he ever even attempt to do with it?

The jurisdiction of the Subcommittee on Domestic Monetary Policy and Technology includes—

(iv) domestic monetary policy, and agencies which directly or indirectly affect domestic monetary policy, including the effect of such policy and other financial actions on interest rates, the allocation of credit, and the structure and functioning of domestic financial institutions [such as the Federal Reserve System];

He should have gone balls to the wall at least after he decided to not run for another term.  He didn't.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 13:45 | 3580981 SamAdams
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While Ron is careful not to step over the line, RAND IS THE WEASEL.  Rand will be the republican distraction for president in 2016 and will throw all sorts of liberty minded people under the bus.

Here is Rand in Jerusalem, in front of the Israeli flag, stating how America should not have a king?  Way to confuse your base you **** moron!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMbZgneTUPc

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:11 | 3580541 seek
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Boris, our president was appointed, not elected. You of all should know this.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:54 | 3580752 mess nonster
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Ron Paul is anti-Israel and anti-Semitic. I know this is true because he opposes the Federal Reserve, which is run almost exclusively by Jewish Zionists. If the Fed were ended, then the power of Jewish patriots of Israel to tax Americans and use their money to support a Jewish homeland would be greatly compromised.

I am very glad to see that ZeroHedge has recently implemented an anti-hate-speech policy in order to restrain the racist and anti-semitic comments of certain ZH readers. I am sure the ZH management did this on the proimtings of their own conscience, without any pressure from the ADL, SPLC, or other heroic defenders of free speech, such as the IDF.

I cannot tell you how relieved I was to see Ron Paul marginalized by the interpid and courageous reporters of the major news networks. The RNC also did a fantastic job in stonewallling and silencing Ron Paul supporters in the run-up to the most recent election. I give the officials at the RNC kudos for their heroic support for Israel and for free speech everywhere.

Israel has been a beacon for freedom and liberty throughout the world. The Israeli's enlightened treatment of the aboriginal population of their ancient homeland is a model of modern humane relocation and containment procedures.

Again, if Ron Paul had been elected, we would be taken back to the darkness of the Enlightenment, where such concepts as God, and God-given natural rights were the witchcraft and superstition of the day.

 We would be hamstrung by the outdated proscriptions of that worthless rag called the Constitution, which was written by anti-Semitic white men who would today call for the destruction of Israel, were they alive. Imagine! The Constitution forbids the direct taxation of private property by the federal Government! if this bizarre directive were actually followed, how would Israel be able to defend herself from the enemies that surround her?

Ron Paul is a menace, and all who support his policies should be monitored and surveilled by the State. If they get out of line, Ron paul supporters should be detained indefinitely, until some sort of evidence can be found to charge them with a crime, or they are re-educated, whichever is the more effective control.

Freedom is taxation.

War is shopping.

Ignorance is Google.

Long live Ingsoc!

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 13:46 | 3580993 SamAdams
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Million Dollar Bonus, is that you?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 14:11 | 3581073 rustymason
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Ron Paul does not personally hate anyone. In personal terms, he is quite the modern liberal. He has no real problems with foreigners. That fact may disappoint the haters, but its completely true. He's just a nice guy. Meet him, you will see for yourself.

OTOH, he is a strong, unwaivering believer in the vision of the Founders, in the Constitution, and in property rights. That is what moves him, much more than his personal beliefs about race, ethnicity, or smoking pot. Sean Insanity, Lush Rimbaugh, Bill the Leprachaun, and Michael the savage weiner are all lying media whores when they say otherwise.

RP also recognizes that several American institutions have been totally taken over and corrupted by hostile entities (it's illegal in die Schweiz to tell you who they are) and he works hard to stop them. Unfortunately, he is an army of one and is unable to get much real work done on Capitol Hill.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 14:20 | 3581101 mydogisprettier...
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"Ron Paul is anti-Israel and anti-Semitic."

 

Why? Because he wants the US to stop the purse strings and stop being an older brother against the bullies?

 

I say if Israel wants to pick a fight with Iran, Syria, Lebanon, etc...let them back up their BS.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:12 | 3580270 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Yeah team Marxism is in full control of both sides of the aisle and has captured the MSM, higher education institutions, wall street, banks and finance. This whole shit show is nothing more about trying to reestablish public confidence in the system and an internal turf war for team Marx between the left wing faction aka the Fabian Socialists like Hillary, Obama, Chucky Cheese Schumer, etc and right wing communistic faction like Lindsey Graham, John McCain etc for who is going to be the favored party come 2016. It has to be Hillary or else they have real competition from the Libertarians and Tea Party types though they might be able to undermine them like they did in 2008 by buying people off like Marco (Ricky Retardo) Rubio. If anyone who isn't on team Marxism grabs too much power they are going to get suicided if they don't coalesce and become strong and organized enough to counteract team Marxism. The Neville Chamberlain approach is not going to work with team Marxism, the sooner people realize the paradigm has shifted and this not longer a left vs right, democrat vs republican issue but Team Marx and Team Keynes vs Team Capitalism and Team Austrian for what truely makes for a free and diverse and prosperous society and economic system. I think it is obvious Team Marx and Keynes are failing miserably and can't function without the use of lies and deceit to foward their agenda.

It is time for the reset button and change in approach...........

It is time for a full house cleaning by any means necessary of as many of these Marxists whether they are left or right leaning and replace them with left and right leaning capitalists to heal and restore the republic. The cronyism on Wall Street don't give a fuck which end of Marxist scale we lean as long they can control both sides of the coin in their playground because corporatism and Marxism share one common element which dehumanization of the average person where they are nothing more than resource to be controlled and used as needed for the advantage of a select few, socialist approach deals with psychological while the corporate is the business approach to for this means to an end.

It is quite fucking simple when you take all the bullshit out of the equation as Ayn Rand once said.

"When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed."

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:18 | 3580310 Ident 7777 economy
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"team Marxism is in full control of both sides of the aisle " No

Maybe seen from the perspective of say, a Mussolini?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:26 | 3580363 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Survey says wrong. Try better than character assassination there Spanky. I am not the one running for office or trying to be a politician. People have to do for themselves first and foremost which means change comes from the individual and within first then radiates out. A control freak like Mussolini (who is just another team Marxist) wants to control that process. A guy like me who is a Libertarian doesn't, we only want to empower people to commit to trying to walk the path and help along as needed. If they don't do they get Marxism and progressively more repressive Marxism as the resources dry up.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:30 | 3580383 Ident 7777 economy
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heh 'survey', not logic or reason. Thanks for playing.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:44 | 3580430 tarsubil
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Show me 'potato salad'!

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:06 | 3580519 Creepy Lurker
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If you have a refutation of what Dewey says, spit it out. If it has merit, people will listen. Poor attempts at snark don't convince anyone.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 13:50 | 3580722 Ident 7777 economy
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What about a third option, that of an approving (or disapproving, as in this case) critic, whose review may be presented without further comment? A 'summary judgement review' if you will.

 

Additionally, when what is proffered in the first paragraph (followed by supporting argument) FAILS on its face, why do I need to argue against what follows?

Maybe you can clear that up ...

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 16:17 | 3581587 Anusocracy
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Team Marxism and team Fascism have performed a Vulcan Mind Meld and are in control of both sides of the aisle.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:30 | 3580374 IamtheREALmario
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Intersting view.

IMO

A. The creators and distributors of money control everything in a world where all money is created from debt. The government and the politicians are simply slaves (with an ego complex) to the distributors of money.

B. Having read some of Marx's writings, it is clear that his portrayal of communism is simply a ploy to fool the people into handing power from one group to another group. People have always suffered under communist rule. The only equality under communism is an equality of oppression to outsiders and corruption and abuse from the insiders. It is a poisonous lie... dressed up to look like a chocolate chip cookie.

For the parasite class, it is all about draining so much blood out of the host that it cannot fight the infection but survives in a semi-comotose state.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:51 | 3580457 MachoMan
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We only have the law of the jungle...  self interest dominates all.  Our descriptions of a present state of the economy are simply fleeting and fickle...  I'm not sure we can even accurately describe mixed economic systems (all of the ones that matter).  The only consideration is how much power to grant central authority...  who has that power is completely irrelevant (and changes fairly frequently).  We're all part of the parasite class if given enough power... 

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 16:30 | 3581628 Anusocracy
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Self interest is fine as long as it is not backed by a legalized use of force.

If that happens, a competition between increasingly nasty people vying for control will ensue. The US is a prime example.

 

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 22:44 | 3582842 MachoMan
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Pretty much, but the problem is that self interest always leads to the legalized use of force...  it's a quandry humans haven't quite managed to overcome.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 11:21 | 3584105 Anusocracy
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If desire to control is a bell curve distribution, then only the tiniest minority lacks the desire.

Most everyone is social and that means that they desire to 'influence' others.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:08 | 3580525 Hulk
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Rand's last paragraph describes us to a t...

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:34 | 3580668 slightlyskeptical
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Nice rant but the reality is that capitalism is not much different than marxism. Capitalism is the ownership of the means of production by those who have the capital. Ultimately it means these same folks end of controlling the government,so the re4ality is that marxism is simply the end result of Capitalism.

What I believe you want is free unfettered trade dependent upon true unmanipulated supply and demand which isn't capitalism at all and never will be.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 13:52 | 3581018 Ident 7777 economy
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"What I believe you want is free unfettered trade dependent upon true unmanipulated supply and demand which isn't capitalism at all and never will be."

It does look as if you've fully decoupled the horse from the cart. Nicely done.


Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:20 | 3580331 Boris Alatovkrap
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... and 2m (6 ft) deep.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:28 | 3580370 tmosley
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A martyr would only help the cause of liberty.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:18 | 3580317 Burt Gummer
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I will never understand why or how the American people did not elect Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012, apparently they like being slaves.

 

http://www.youtube.com/user/OneiroThoreau

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:18 | 3580322 Ident 7777 economy
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Gullible.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:24 | 3580349 Boris Alatovkrap
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Free mobile phone?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:40 | 3580389 Ident 7777 economy
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Saps? (and I'm not talking "Simplified Acute Physiology Score" either.)

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:20 | 3580330 Turin Turambar
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The answer is really simple.  Here's a clue:   Baaaaaaaaaah!  Baaaaaaaah!

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:30 | 3580382 Dexter Morgan
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A compliant media with idiots watching.  Bill O'Reilly took two radio interview clips of Ron Paul lasting 6 seconds from a 30 minute interview out of context and verbally raped him.  3rd party debate was carried at last minute by cspan, no notice on scrolling cable menu, and last two 3rd party debates had to be watched on al-jezeera or russian television.  MSNBS, CNN, FOX, all play on the same team.  If you vote republican or democrat you are part of the problem!

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:50 | 3580453 TeamDepends
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Flouride, commie infiltration of the education and political systems, feminism, promotion of homosexuality, msm pumping propaganda 24/7, "food" that is harmful, Nancy Pelosi, etc. etc. etc....

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:38 | 3580686 Creepy Lurker
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Yuri Bezmenov and Charlotte Iserbyt. Everyone on here would benefit from plugging those names into YouTube and watching the interviews.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:36 | 3580671 Mad Mohel
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Because he's mush mouthed. The man is right on with his thoughts and ideas, but his delivery is a buzz kill. And like it or not the public takes that shit into consideration maybe above all else.

But I agree that most of the populace these days are grateful for their serfdom.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 13:17 | 3580855 Frank N. Beans
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if RP had a voice like Trace Atkins (minus the drawl), he'd be president. 

 

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 15:16 | 3581334 Blankenstein
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Yes because the public has learned through watching pure shit 24/7 on TV that they should only pay attention to the superficial.   He's not that poor of a speaker, he's just not a slick speaker using a teleprompter or delivering canned sound bytes that mean nothing, but contain buzz words that make the sheeple content.  

I guess it would be better if he sounded like this?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxxxGUeZtno

 

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:29 | 3580640 WhiteWolf
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July 4, 2013.  Everyone at midnight lets all take our 12 guage shotguns and blow em off promptly at midnight.  No not up so that they can hurt anyone but straight into the ground towards hell the government and central bankers are taking us.  All at once.  Let them HEAR the power of 300Million plus weapon discharged at one time towards he US Government, their banking cartels, their  Federal Reserve, their faggot IRS agents.  I think if they hear the sound of 300Million plus discharges they will understand that we have had enough.  Who is in?  Lets let them know how worthless their Natl Guard would be against 300Million weapons discharged at one time.  Here Here for LIberty

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:20 | 3581963 nc551
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Shooting birdshot into the air is fine.  If you go bird hunting in heavily trafficked areas it is fairly common to have birdshot rain down harmlessly on you from time to time.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:48 | 3580723 WhiteWolf
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July 4, 2013.  Everyone at midnight lets all take our 12 guage shotguns and blow em off promptly at midnight.  No not up so that they can hurt anyone but straight into the ground towards hell the government and central bankers are taking us.  All at once.  Let them HEAR the power of 300Million plus weapon discharged at one time towards he US Government, their banking cartels, their  Federal Reserve, their faggot IRS agents.  I think if they hear the sound of 300Million plus discharges they will understand that we have had enough.  Who is in?  Lets let them know how worthless their Natl Guard would be against 300Million weapons discharged at one time.  Here Here for LIberty

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:48 | 3580724 WhiteWolf
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July 4, 2013.  Everyone at midnight lets all take our 12 guage shotguns and blow em off promptly at midnight.  No not up so that they can hurt anyone but straight into the ground towards hell the government and central bankers are taking us.  All at once.  Let them HEAR the power of 300Million plus weapon discharged at one time towards he US Government, their banking cartels, their  Federal Reserve, their faggot IRS agents.  I think if they hear the sound of 300Million plus discharges they will understand that we have had enough.  Who is in?  Lets let them know how worthless their Natl Guard would be against 300Million weapons discharged at one time.  Here Here for LIberty

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:48 | 3580725 WhiteWolf
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July 4, 2013.  Everyone at midnight lets all take our 12 guage shotguns and blow em off promptly at midnight.  No not up so that they can hurt anyone but straight into the ground towards hell the government and central bankers are taking us.  All at once.  Let them HEAR the power of 300Million plus weapon discharged at one time towards he US Government, their banking cartels, their  Federal Reserve, their faggot IRS agents.  I think if they hear the sound of 300Million plus discharges they will understand that we have had enough.  Who is in?  Lets let them know how worthless their Natl Guard would be against 300Million weapons discharged at one time.  Here Here for LIberty

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:41 | 3580180 Stackers
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Stop enforcing the never legally ratified 16th amendment !!!

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:26 | 3580365 Boris Alatovkrap
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Knox it off with silly philandering conspiracy.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:34 | 3580397 Crash Overide
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Don't forget about the original “Titles of Nobility Amendment” of the 13th that was never put in the books due to war at the time.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:49 | 3580734 WhiteWolf
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July 4, 2013.  Everyone at midnight lets all take our 12 guage shotguns and blow em off promptly at midnight.  No not up so that they can hurt anyone but straight into the ground towards hell the government and central bankers are taking us.  All at once.  Let them HEAR the power of 300Million plus weapon discharged at one time towards he US Government, their banking cartels, their  Federal Reserve, their faggot IRS agents.  I think if they hear the sound of 300Million plus discharges they will understand that we have had enough.  Who is in?  Lets let them know how worthless their Natl Guard would be against 300Million weapons discharged at one time.  Here Here for LIberty

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:41 | 3580181 F. Bastiat
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Certainly, financial coericon is the primary weapon of coercion wielded against the people and the states, by the central government.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:42 | 3580185 buzzsaw99
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It will be fun watching the two supposedly opposing parties harass each other with the bureaucratic blob. The next repug prez will probably have a few dozen axes to grind. They deserve each other.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:42 | 3580186 Marty Rothbard
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Here, here.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:44 | 3580195 Mike7.62
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Yeah. I voted for him a few times over the last couple of decades, but the hoi polloi don't like his message and want to remain in the Matrix.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:45 | 3580196 Seize Mars
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The IRS takes your money and gives it directly to the Federal Reserve "system," i.e. banks. Unfuckingbelieveable.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:45 | 3580197 vegas
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Wait until the average Amerikan dolt gets introduced into Obamacare and the absolute abuses that this will lead to: let the riots begin.

 

http://vegasxau.blogspot.com

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:48 | 3580203 slaughterer
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Average Amerikan dolt will never riot.  They might miss "Dancing with the Stars"

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:49 | 3580210 duo
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Your access to health care under IRS-care will depend on your political leanings.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:11 | 3580295 SilverIsKing
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Stay healthy my friend.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:25 | 3580356 earnyermoney
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It'll be hard to stay healty when the IRS knocks on your door to point out your political leanings are wrong.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:29 | 3580377 duo
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And you must submit to experimental vaccines if you want to keep your house.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:47 | 3580443 XitSam
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I already did that. But it wasn't Obamacare *tic*, it was the U.S. Army.  As a condition of my enlistment *tic* contract (it's a contract and yes I read it) I agreed to submit to any test medications.  As far as I know, they didn't. *tic*

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:19 | 3580328 TuPhat
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Esactly, duo, but definitely not depend on race, ethnicity, religion or sexual preference (sarc).  Oh wait, those are all included in political leanings now aren't they.  My bad.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:29 | 3580371 duo
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I can see it now:  supplimental insurance for Republicans that will cover things that IRS-care will deny them.  Republicans/Libs having to drive all over town looking for a doctor or hospital that will treat them....

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:58 | 3580253 Panafrican Funk...
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Pretty close to 50 million are already on food stamps.  If you make up to 133% of the FPL, you get "free" Medicaid; beyond that, most Americans will actually get heavily subsidized health insurance.  The people that are really going to pay for this are those in the $75K+ gross income bracket, ie., "the rich" (which is a laughable definition, but there it is).  Surprisingly few households actually make that amount, and those households tend to have a lot to lose from any major shifts in governmental policy (ie., a lot of these people work for heavily subsidized companies such as GE, XOM, JPM, etc.).  So yes, regardless of dolt factor, we're going to willingly eat this shit sandwich.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:19 | 3580315 Bastiat
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Take care of your health and stay out of the medical system.  The third most common cause of death on the US?  Medical error.  I'm only halfway through it but already it's the single most important book on health I've ever read:  The China Study, T. Colin Campbell.  

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:26 | 3580360 fuu
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Thanks.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:48 | 3580448 Crash Overide
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The leading cause of death on this planet throughout time has been... "government"

We are the fucking experiment, the IRS is just another tentacle. If one thing in all this chaos could bring people together it would be taking down the IRS, no one likes them. Torches, pitchforks for real this time...

Rise up bitchez!

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:54 | 3580760 shovelhead
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No lie.

The first thing they teach in residency is to say "Hmmm" instead of "Whoops"

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:57 | 3580748 gaoptimize
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A healthy lifestyle in now a prerequisite to liberty.  I am uping my game over the next 6 months in defiance of ObamaCare.  I'm replacing lettuce with dandelion and breakfast cereal with high tannin srghum.  No more GMOs and packaged foods and beverages.  Most years, I have one interaction with the sick care industry.  I'm targetting zero interactions under ObamaCare.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:46 | 3580200 Global Hunter
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The IRS’s Job Is To Violate Our Liberties

Sadly this simple truth is probably considered radical or revolutionary to many

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:47 | 3580204 Jim in MN
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Both parties embrace extreme corruption at the highest levels. 

Corruption is wiping out potential GDP, killing jobs, lowering wages, and rendering the US unable to function.

Geithner knew and won't even be asked.  Goldman Sachs was undoubtedly informed--no one asks them for their daily/weekly communications logs.

Maybe DOJ should spy on the fucking banksters and find some actual crime.

We need a bill to ban all TBTF institution employees from Federal service for life.  End or post publically all contact between TARP recipients and the government.  And for safety and security, close the NY offices of the Federal Reserve and Treasury for five years.  Make them all work from Cincinatti for a while, see how they like that.

So the White House is chin deep in its own filth....big deal.   Let's get to the real issues.  They cut both ways....so you won't be hearing it anywhere but here.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:13 | 3580536 JR
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Absolutely right in all your points, except when moving the NY Fed I would suggest moving it to the unemployment office and not Cincinnati.

As for the corruption from both sides, we see the liberals lying and pushing government to end the free enterprise system with welfare, open borders and a crackdown on middle class values. Meanwhile, the right side of the aisle pushes Big Government war, expansion of intelligence services, protection of government secrets and hatred of Muslims. An extreme example:

RNC head Reince Priebus was on Fox and Hannity over the weekend saying Eric Holder should resign because of his long list of scandals and poor judgments. He particularly hit Holder's attacks on the US Constitution.  So what were these “attacks” he hit first? Why, the protection of a man’s legal rights.

Of all the “scandals” attributed to Holder, Preibus and Fox and Hannity used his support of our Miranda rights to propagandize the public into giving up our freedoms. Said Priebus: You remember this? The Christmas Day bomber – reading the Miranda rights to the Christmas Day bomber. Claiming that he would read legal rights to the dead corpse of Osama Bin Laden,” and, on Fox, giving  Guantanamo prisoners their Miranda rights.

Contributing to this corruption, of course, is the media: with Fox out front in the war against Muslims and support for Guantanamo and torture while the liberal media aligns its principles with communism and the destruction of the American culture.

Ironically, both sides of the politics and the media emanate from a single power source, namely the banking cartel. They play it like a football game but it is all played from the same source.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 13:26 | 3580898 ceilidh_trail
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We here in the CINCINNATI area already have a federal reserve building downtown (small copy of guarded/fortified buildings in DC). We have a good sized federal occupation here and do not wish for more. As an ex New Yorker, I insist that You take them in Mini sota instead! We've had enough of the burden already and it's time that you stepped up to the plate to house these critters.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 15:04 | 3581278 Jim in MN
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The Federal Reserve building in Minneapolis was abandoned for toxic air quality reasons, renovated and now could indeed host some filth and slime.  I have personally been tear gassed while friends were batoned underneath said building.  Not recently of course ;*)

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 15:00 | 3581263 DosZap
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So the White House is chin deep in its own filth....big deal.

 

The entire estab is full of nothing but Bucket Mouthed Liars,with rare exceptions.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:49 | 3580208 mckee
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He is so audited!

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:56 | 3580237 ThisIsBob
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Please leak it to the press - only way the president will find out.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:49 | 3580209 swissaustrian
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Has ZH been audited lately?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:56 | 3580241 Jim in MN
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Only by their Swiss nannies.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:58 | 3580250 swissaustrian
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A Swiss "audit" doesn't deserve to be compared to an IRS audit.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:50 | 3580212 Inthemix96
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If its true that the IRS is there to take away your liberties, should you not be prepared to take away the liberty infringing pile of shit first?

Fucking jumped up little Hitlers.  Bout time these parasitical humans were instructed to do something more constructive with their time instead of illegaly harrasing normal citizens.  Make these useless fuckers dig holes and then fill them back up.

Living life on the backs of others is not fair play Mr IRS man, shut this whole fucking show down and while you're on, shut down the government as well.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:40 | 3580694 Meat Hammer
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Absolutely right, Mix.  I challenge everybody here to put their money where their mouths are and refuse to comply with the unconstitutional ACA.  I will not be filling out their forms because I am a sovereign being and am not a franchise under contract with the government.  We are going to have to make them put us in jail; if the public sees people being dragged away in hand cuffs for not proving to have health insurance, there will be outrage.  We have to draw a line in the sand at some point.  Collapse this bitch by overwhelming this bitch........bitchez.  Paul Revere would think we're a bunch of vaginas.  

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 15:15 | 3581329 DosZap
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Absolutely right, Mix. I challenge everybody here to put their money where their mouths are and refuse to comply with the unconstitutional ACA. I will not be filling out their forms because I am a sovereign being and am not a franchise under contract with the government. We are going to have to make them put us in jail; if the public sees people being dragged away in hand cuffs for not proving to have health insurance, there will be outrage. We have to draw a line in the sand at some point. Collapse this bitch by overwhelming this bitch........bitchez. Paul Revere would think we're a bunch of vaginas

Just make sure you sell all your assets, and take every dime from wherever and whatever it's invested in OUT, and turn it into cash,PM combo.Then you can afford to do what your suggesting,most people will not do it.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:51 | 3580215 insanelysane
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As much as I would enjoy a repeal of the income tax, I think that a flat tax of 15% of all income is more achievable in the near term.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:14 | 3580307 Boxed Merlot
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a flat tax of 15% of all income is more achievable...

 

It may be "achievable", but why place a tax on "income" at all?  If a person is willing to work and save the fruits of ones labor, then one ought to be able to do so without penalty. 

Taxes should be collected at the point of consumption.  In case you haven't noticed, wealthy people spend / consume more and would justly pay a larger share even when a percentage of a tax remains equal for all. 

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:41 | 3580418 Forty Six and 2
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As much as I would enjoy a repeal of the income tax, I think that a flat tax of 15% of all income is more achievable in the near term. - Insanelysane

 

Translation - The current set of chains are a bit too heavy, but I'd be okay with a lighter set.

 

While the idea of more fairness in taxation (theft & serfdom) sounds great on the surface, it's still theft and serfdom. All the Flat/Fair taxers have got to get out of the mindset of paying any labor compensation to gov - period! It's not theirs to have.

I also don't like the idea of a state sales tax and definitely not federal sales tax. Reverting to the import duties of old or some other mechanism that takes the burden off the people should suffice. The fed and states can divvy up the tariffs to fund their respective limited operations. They can only ever get crumbs otherwise we get what we have today.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:54 | 3580471 XitSam
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Modern school history teachings: Articles of Confederation were not working because the government could raise no revenue.

And that was bad how?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:13 | 3580548 Crash Overide
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Right, government is not supposed to be a business, it's a service. 

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:34 | 3580664 Professorlocknload
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Yeah, 15%. Then 20%, then 50% then, you want Rainbow stew with that? OK, 80%.

Why is the solution always tax more and never spend less?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:54 | 3580224 Squiddly Diddly
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IRS Mission Statement:  "“The power to tax is the power to destroy” — and who better to destroy than one’s political enemies?"

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:53 | 3580228 Agent P
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10% across the board flat tax, no deductions, no tax-exempt organizations.  If that doesn't raise enough money to support the government, too fucking bad, shrink it...start with the IRS.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:59 | 3580255 Sofa King Confused
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You still dont get it...No taxes on the people..... prior to the BS we have now corporate taxes and other things like import duties funded the entire GOV

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:29 | 3580375 Agent P
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As appealing as "no taxes on the people" sounds, we are a vastly different country now than we were 100+ years ago, and I just don't think the math works to return to that tax structure.  I'm not trying to be a party pooper here, I'm just trying to be a realist.  So my proposal is that everyone chips in a little, and the government has to live within its means based on that...I guess that doesn't sound much like a realistic view at all, but I'd like to see it move in that direction.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:58 | 3580488 XitSam
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Government never lives within its means when it has the power to raise the tax rate and print paper "money" and go into debt. It would work, it just won't be a government you would recognize. 

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:20 | 3580588 Agent P
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So what's the solution then, no taxes?  I just don't see how that works, but judging by the red arrows above, advocating for lower taxes and smaller government just doesn't go far enough on a Ron Paul post. 

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 17:13 | 3581762 XitSam
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No tax on people does not mean no taxes, see Sofa King Confused above. Also, we're talking about federal taxes, not state taxes.  All the "services" that the feds provide, why not do away with them, let the people in each state decide if they want the state to provide that "service" or not. I sure don't need a Department of Labor or Education or Homeland Security. Each state can decide if they want to fund the federal government and for what service, thereby making the federal government responsive to the needs of the states. Just one idea, lots of others available. 

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:19 | 3580581 buddybear
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If we don't change things soon the U.S. will be "a vastly different country" anyway.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:22 | 3580601 Agent P
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I totally agree, hence my original post for a lower, flat tax and smaller government.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:37 | 3580682 Forty Six and 2
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So are you saying that some level of theft & serfdom of the people by our gov't is necessary for it to function?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 13:29 | 3580916 Agent P
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Short of anarchy (which I'm not fond of) government in any form requires funding.  I suppose they could run a bunch of state-owned for-profit enterprises, but I'm not a big fan of that either, so yes, I believe taxes are inevitable.  That being said, I'd like to see less taxes and certainly less government, and to your point, one that functions solely for the good of its people.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 13:33 | 3580932 ceilidh_trail
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Yes.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:37 | 3580678 Professorlocknload
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Ah, a little bit of socialism instead of a lot. Who decides the allocations there?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 13:56 | 3581032 Agent P
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Socialism?  WTF?  Explain that one to me.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:31 | 3580386 sosoome
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Just follow the Constitution; tax the States (apportioned), and restore State representation in Congress. This insane "money-go-round" will cease overnight.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:38 | 3580687 Professorlocknload
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Nullification!

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 13:37 | 3580954 lakecity55
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10th Amendment, Bit-Chez!

See: Nikki Haley/OblowmeCare.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:58 | 3580480 hootowl
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The U.S. Constitution prohibits the federal government from laying a direct/head tax on American citizens.

The Supreme Court has ruled that the 16th amendment does NOT add any new taxing power to the federal.

This whole federal income tax on individual compensation received for services is an illegal, unconstitutional scam.

Americans are being totally deceived, robbed by the Babylonians, because they won't educate themselves.

We have been told that: "My people are destroyed by lack of knowledge".

The U.S. Government is nothing more than an ongoing criminal enterprise that has been empowered by itself to police itself.

 

STARVE THE BEAST

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:23 | 3580605 Ms. Erable
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Long train of abuses, bitchez. Prepare accordingly.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 13:35 | 3580950 lakecity55
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+ 1000

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:57 | 3580244 trillion_dollar...
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Chief IRS Counsel bailed out Jeremiah Wright's Church of Hate from IRS probe in 2008:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/19/Chief-IRS-counsel-bailed-Jeremiah-Wright-s-church-out-of-IRS-probe-in-2008

How far down the rabbit hole are we going to go with this scandal?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:00 | 3580260 yogibear
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Outright lawlessness.

The criminals don't even hide it anymore.

In the meantime people don't even care or pay attention to it anymore. 

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:58 | 3580249 machineh
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Spectator reporting that Obama met with Colleen Kelley (head of the NTEU) in the White House on Mar 31, 2010, the day before the Tea Party targeting started in Cincinnati.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://spectator.org/archives/2013/05/20/obama-and-the-irs-the-smoking

This is big ... REALLY BIG.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:21 | 3580334 Uncle Remus
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Thank you, JFK. /sarc

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:29 | 3580641 Professorlocknload
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I wonder how big it is. Big as Monica Lewinski? Big as the house impeachment of Slick Willy? Big as Iran Contra?

Or is it comparable to a tempest in a teapot?

For sure, if the IRS goes, what replaces it will be ugly as well. The problem here isn't the IRS. It's the scourge it's directly connected to. The IRS is nothing but one of it's thousands of tentacles.

Unfortunately, it isn't going anywhere until the Fed is buying all it's tax liens to add to it's dung collection.

 

 

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 13:34 | 3580946 lakecity55
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We know where Slick put his cigars with Monica.

I shudder to think where Reggie puts his cigars with Bath House.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 13:33 | 3580935 lakecity55
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Impeach

Convict

Imprison

(preferably in Gitmo).

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:31 | 3582005 mqg25
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Really big? You mean bigger than the Beatles on the Ed Sullivan show in "64?" Then dude this must be big.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:00 | 3580257 madcuban
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It will be interesting to see if Homeland Security enters into a power struggle with the IRS or if they just decide to join forces to have ultimate and complete control over all aspects of citizens' lives.  Think ahead.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:22 | 3580342 Uncle Remus
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Our very own "Night of the Long Knives"?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:12 | 3580533 XitSam
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I'm thinking Janet stages a coup on Obama. To protect homeland security, natch. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded." He wanted it, and now it will turn and bite him.

Update: If you've been watching, ICE and in particular HSI, have been doing jobs that FBI, Secret Service & ATF used to do.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 13:32 | 3580923 lakecity55
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We would just swap a commie homosexual for a commie lesbian.

She would be able to Lick Bush if Jeb runs against her, though.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 14:20 | 3581105 rustymason
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Ha! I see what you did there.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 13:01 | 3580589 Squiddly Diddly
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IRS Homeland Security personal privacy molestation.  Birds of a feather.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:00 | 3580259 Smegley Wanxalot
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amen, RP.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:01 | 3580265 Tsunami Wave
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This Ron Paul and his facts and coherent arguments make too much sense.. even for politically divided people. Better not report any of this in the MSM or to bought/paid for blogs and websites. You don't want people to think they have the freedom to choose things and get along with each other and our differences now..

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:10 | 3580288 FunkyOldGeezer
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By all means Income Tax should be repealed, BUT if you think that would mean less taxation, you're not thinking straight.

Certainly it is anti-liberty and it does give governments power over the citizenry. Giving too much power to the tax authorities has lead to a certain over zealous application of income tax laws, resulting in absolute power...and we all know what absolute power does.

However, for Tea Party types to get upset and indignant over close examination, targeting and calling it politically initiated, is over selling the situation, IMO.

Ron Paul just comes across as another (relatively rich) moaning, grease ball. Bwah, bwaaaah, why do WE we have to pay tax.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:57 | 3580478 LongBallsShortBrains
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Your opinion sucks.

Who gives a fuck if RP is relatively rich????

Go read your Marx.

Fucking commie

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:26 | 3580622 SmallerGovNow2
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this targeting of a political class is why Nixon had to resigne geezer...

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:10 | 3580290 Aegelis
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Awesome points brought up here.  How could anyone not listen to Ron Paul?  I may not agree with everything he says, but I do recognize the value in listening to his intelligent arguments.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:25 | 3580350 Seasmoke
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I agree with everything he says.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:12 | 3580299 writingsonthewall
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The US flourished for over 120 years without an income tax

WTF - yeah with SLAVES imported from Africa to ensure that 'everyone was wealthy' - well except for the slaves, but they didn't matter at the time.

If you pay attention this is what the grandees of tax-hating are working towards. You get rid of the tax system and it will be the little man that pays - and if you're reading this - then yes, that means YOU - no matter how 'grand' you think your life is - there are people out there with wealth a million times greater than yours who will happily not contribute and 'buy everything they need privately'. The rest of you will be the 'new slaves' of society - and the wealthy will crow "you never had it so good" because of a "rise in production efficiency" (aka working for less than feeds you)

What the IRS did is wrong - but this has now been jumped on as an opportunity for the free market free-loaders to demand an end to the tax system.

It's true the IRS is there to redictribute the wealth - but from the LUCKY to the UNLUCKY, from the WEALTHY to the POOR - that is what republicans are really pissed about - nothing to do with the investigations of the IRS.

Considering the T-party were being funded by a few wealthy indiviudals - then part of the scrutiny was justified, especially as the same party was pushing a 'no tax agenda' - chances were they were never keen on paying tax in the first place.

It's interesting to witness the undoing of hundreds of years of human development which led to the redictribution of wealth and a more stable society - being undone by a few 'half baked ideas' which appeal to the masses of hicks and hillbillies who like to keep things simple.

It's also interesting to watch people call for changes which will adversely impact them without any benefits - I believe this is the definition of 'stupid'.

 

Don't worry - it's the same the world over - we have a bunch of swivel eyed loons who think that a 'Euro exit' will be 'clean and graceful' and of course Europe will continue trading with us (not).

One day these morons might pick up an economic history book and look at the myriad of ways that countries can impose restrictions without breaking any international free trade laws.

These aren't in use at the moment due to TRUST - not to do with any law governing free trade.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:21 | 3580338 Ident 7777 economy
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-1 "yeah with SLAVES imported from Africa to ensure"

Does not reflect reality as evidenced in the 20th century ...

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:28 | 3580352 Uncle Remus
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"[S]wivel eyed loons" eh? Inthemix96 - I believe this one is one of yours.

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