This page has been archived and commenting is disabled.

White House Explains: Obama Didn't Know What He Knew When Everyone Else Knew What He Should Have Known

Tyler Durden's picture





 

Yesterday, when we reported that as a result of new disclosures regarding the timing of who learned what, but most importantly when, in the White House regarding the IRS persecution (if not prosecution) of conservative groups, we made it quite clear that the narrative enacted by the White House, which could simply be summarized as "we'll make it up as we go along", was nothing more than damage control in total disarray. Because once caught lying, the best solution usually is to stop lying and tell the truth, tying up all those loose ends that eventually lead to Watergate-type outcomes unless addressed early on. No such luck here.

Instead, the White House has doubled down on its crash and burn storyline and in doing so is merely guaranteeing that the very same conservatives, and all others who would rather not have a very political IRS on their back, who have smelled blood are not going to let go until someone at the very top takes responsibility for what, together with the AP-fiasco, is rapidly becoming Obama's Nixonian scandal.

Sure enough, here is The Hill with the White House's official explanation for what happened: "White House officials were notified of a Treasury Department inspector general report on the IRS but elected not to tell President Obama about it." In other words, neither the IRS chief was aware of what is going on at the IRS (recall the countless "I don't knows" and "I don't recalls") and apparently, neither was the president briefed on what everyone beneath him at the White House knew weeks in advance of the premeditated IRS leak. And in fact, it turns out it was someone else's executive duty to make the decision what the chief executive of the nation is and isn't allowed to know in the first pace. So, maybe we are confused, but just how is Obama the "president" again?

For more on how when the White House finds itself in a hole, it merely keeps on digging and digging, we go to The Hill:

White House press secretary Jay Carney said Monday that Chief of Staff Dennis McDonough and other senior officials knew of the general nature of the report but decided to keep the president in the dark about the report’s finding that the IRS had targeted conservative groups for extra tax scrutiny

 

Carney said it was the White House counsel Kathryn Ruemmler’s judgment that the matter should not be told to the president, and that she conveyed this sentiment to senior staff.

 

Carney defended the decision, saying conclusions often change in the final stages of inspector general reports, and that it would’ve been inappropriate for the White House to involve itself in an ongoing investigation.

 

 “To be clear, we knew the subject of the investigation and the nature of some of the potential findings,” Carney said.

 

“But we did not have a copy of the draft report, we did not know the details, the scope, or the motivation surrounding the misconduct. And we did not know who was responsible. Most importantly, the report was not final and still very much subject to change.”

 

Carney said that upon learning about the report, McDonough “rightly chose not to take action” to avoid being seen as intervening.

 

That’s what any White House should do,” Carney said at the daily White House briefing

So according to the head spin doctor of the administration, what the White House should do is serve as a buffer for Obama, who should take all the credit for any and all correct decisions, but have heard no evil, seen no evil, and spoken no evil, when the implications could be potentially impeachable. Come to think of it, if we were running an unaccountable enterprise, we would do the same.

As for Ms. Ruemmler, or the women who decided what the president of the US should and shouldn't know, or in other words, his superior, should she perhaps be culpable of at least something?

Lanny Davis, a former special counsel under President Bill Clinton, wrote last week that Ruemmler should resign if she knew about the probe of the IRS and failed to tell the president.

Davis, writing for The Hill, argued that a White House counsel must have a keen ear for politics, and that it would have been better to tell Obama immediately of the facts of the case.

"If Ms. Ruemmler did know about this IRS story and didn’t inform the president immediately, then, respectfully, that must mean she didn’t appreciate fully the mammoth legal and political implications for the U.S. government as well as the American people of a story involving IRS officials abusing power and possibly violating criminal laws," Davis wrote.

Carney said Ruemmler and McDonough had only “top line” knowledge of the report’s findings. He argued that some in Congress, including House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrel Issa (R-Calif.), had been similarly briefed on the upcoming report, but chose to sit on the information so as not to interfere.

“Our whole point has been that knowing this was coming does not change the fact that there was nothing we could have or should have done about it,” Carney said, adding that it was wrong to say “that somehow the president should have been notified.”

The bottom line is that it appears the president is nothing but a figurehead, at least according to the White House's own take on things:

Carney said the president wasn’t upset that he had to learn about the report through the media, rather than from his advisers.

 

“The president believes and has faith that it is entirely appropriate that nobody here took any action to intervene,” Carney said. “Some matters are not appropriate to convey to him, and this is one of them.”

In other words, Executive-In-Chief... except when being Janitor-In-Chief leads to a more palatable outcome. Ironically we doubt the public will be very upset when they too learn, ostensibly through the wiretapped media, that Obama was and is nothing but a charismatic expert at reading a teleprompter, and that those who make the actual decisions, including what the "president" should and shouldn't know, are sitting comfortably, far behind the curtains.

That said it would not surprise us if the broader US population, engrossed in its Obamaphones and Tumblr blog accounts, has already long forgotten not only about this scandal, but that the whole premise of a functioning democracy is to have operating check and balances to those in charge. Which by definition means holding them accountable and responsible when such travesties of justice as those exposed in the past two weeks come to light.

Or maybe, once again, it will all be just Fabrice Tourre's fault...

 


- advertisements -

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:06 | Link to Comment fuu
fuu's picture

Liars!

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:11 | Link to Comment kliguy38
kliguy38's picture

Let's all remain calm and not jump to conclusions, name calling accomplishes little......now......having said this ........foch all these lying scumbag bastards and may hell show them no mercy.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:12 | Link to Comment Troll Magnet
Troll Magnet's picture

I trust these people to run my life. I trust these people to run my life. I trust these people to run my life. I trust these people to run my life. I trust these people to run my life. I trust these people to run my life. I trust these people to run my life. 

 

FORWARD!!!

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:23 | Link to Comment SilverIsKing
SilverIsKing's picture

Who benefitted most by this activity?

And that's your answer because anyone who was pulling this shit on conservatives/tea party/patriots/etc, would have been so proud of what they were doing and would have wanted a pat on the back from their Master in Chief.

Not a chance in hell they kept this from him and eventually, someone will roll over.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:27 | Link to Comment Manthong
Manthong's picture

The good news is that as Clinton set the standard for little girls everywhere by declaring BJ’s not to be sex anymore, Obama has set the standard for all of us by making the IRS and the law irrelevant.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/05/19/dan-pfeiffer-legal-questions-in-irs-scandal-irrelevant-to-inexcusable-actions/

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/pfeiffer-irs-scandal-law-irrelevant_724883.html

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:36 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
Herd Redirection Committee's picture

Did you guys ever see the chart that shows where in the Military Intelligence hierarchy the President sits?

Something like 21 levels from having top security clearance! 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/ORG_Chart.pdf

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:40 | Link to Comment knukles
knukles's picture

Sounds plausibly deniable to me.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:41 | Link to Comment Big Slick
Big Slick's picture

Do we still run politicians out of town on a rail? 

Tar?

Feathers?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:53 | Link to Comment knukles
knukles's picture

I wonder just how dirty that kid Carney feels every night when he goes home?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:00 | Link to Comment post turtle saver
post turtle saver's picture

I visualize him cowering in the corner of his shower with the water running, rocking back and forth while he weeps and sobs uncontrollably.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:09 | Link to Comment ShrNfr
ShrNfr's picture

That would imply that he has a conscience. I strongly doubt that he does.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:24 | Link to Comment negative rates
negative rates's picture

The president of a company is the lead salesman, told by others what and how to sell a product. This is really no different.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:34 | Link to Comment nope-1004
nope-1004's picture

But when the President of the company is selling bullshit, he/she/company doesn't last long.  Bills can't be paid with bullshit.

 

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:47 | Link to Comment Stackers
Stackers's picture

Why dont we get Valery Jaret up on the stand in Congress and see what that ex-slum lord knew and when.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:10 | Link to Comment Meat Hammer
Meat Hammer's picture

Blood going down the shower drain a-la Leaving Las Vegas.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:10 | Link to Comment CrimsonAvenger
CrimsonAvenger's picture

Very nice. If WB7 doesn't jump on that imagery it will be the greatest injustice in the history of all mankind.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 20:30 | Link to Comment WhackoWarner
WhackoWarner's picture

The only way this guy cowers is at the thought that he may NOT be able to deflect responsibility.  Even then the revolving door will save.  There is not one single bit of morality left in political USA. (so excuse, nothing left with any power).

 

Obama?  Sheesh the world looked to him.  What an absolute farce and dupe and idiot he is.  Shame is a foreign concept these days south of the 49th.  But we do no better here. We got the idiot Harper.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:10 | Link to Comment a growing concern
a growing concern's picture

Do fascists have souls?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:12 | Link to Comment nmewn
nmewn's picture

"I wonder just how dirty that kid Carney feels every night when he goes home?"

He doesn't, he's used to dealing with hallucinations and altered states of reality...he was, afterall, Bidens mouthpiece before he took this job ;-)

But ladies & gentlemen, we have a real opportunity here IMO.

We all know the tax code is used by BOTH parties to reward their cronies and punish their enemies when they are in the drivers seat.

Now is the time, while the iron is hot, to burn the current tax code to ash...to debate (and in my opinion) implement the Fair Tax or a Flat Tax. Strip them of the power to use a citizens taxes for their own purpose, that is to confer favor or punishment.

These opportinities don't come around very often where the state, in all its bureaucratic glory, is on full display.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:18 | Link to Comment RockyRacoon
RockyRacoon's picture

This isn't enough for what you propose.  The IRS agents will have to bludgeon a family to death on their own front porch and the agents seen making off with all the family's belongings -- on Youtube.   Then they will imagine looking at the the thought of the remote possibility of abolishing the IRS... maybe.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:30 | Link to Comment nmewn
nmewn's picture

lol...you're probably right Rocky.

But if we're going to have a federal government, it will need to be funded. I could care less myself but there's a lot of people who (for whatever reason) want it.

Whatever we decide, it can't go on like this...tweaking around the edges...as they keep on trying to mollify the masses just one more time.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 20:04 | Link to Comment Poundsand
Poundsand's picture

Would have to be much worse.  At Waco Janet Reno was able to actually burn 76 people alive including 17 children and no one even went to jail.  Now having thought about it, it will never happen.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 21:25 | Link to Comment knukles
knukles's picture

US Army troopies were used in that operation

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 20:02 | Link to Comment gatorengineer
gatorengineer's picture

how could one feel dirty doing what they percieve as Gods work?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 20:25 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
Anusocracy's picture

Exactly.

It fits their morality.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 20:51 | Link to Comment WhackoWarner
WhackoWarner's picture

Oh really? Whose God?  Wall Street? Short term gain? The interpretations i get on my radar of this
Christian God that is touted are so hit and miss you wonder if anybody actually read the book.  Sometimes the Reader's Digest or the movie version may not be quite true.

 

Christianity sucks. Islam is a farce. Judaism is a joke.  What happened to using our own brains? Freedom ot thought and choice. Christianity has bred nothing but war (class or otherwise), abuse (class or children) and lies.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 11:28 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
Anusocracy's picture

Morality (moral behavior) has its roots in our primate past.

Religion, like government, just uses morality for its own purposes.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 21:56 | Link to Comment SgtSchultz
SgtSchultz's picture

I would love to be a fly on the wall as their "writers" dream up new talking points like a bunch of SNL writers, reminds me of Animal House:

Flounder: Will that work?
Otter: Hey, it's gotta work better than the truth.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:08 | Link to Comment Meat Hammer
Meat Hammer's picture

They elected not to tell him what he already knew.  

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:52 | Link to Comment DeadFred
DeadFred's picture

Remember the story that broke at the same time. If someone rolls over and goes to , let's say the AP, they know they will be traced. If traced they can be droned, renditioned to Gitmo or simply disappear. Many of the sheep in this country don't believe that could happen but if you are in the know enough to do the rolling over you also know what the regime can and will do. No one will roll over on this is my guess.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 21:58 | Link to Comment Keegan11
Keegan11's picture

This is a helluva good point. Intimidate witnesses immediately - this shit is fucked man !

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:08 | Link to Comment candyman
candyman's picture

The president and all members take an oath. Lets review it and see where the Good 'Ol US of A stands today under Oboma's leadership.

"[T]he duty imposed upon him to take care, that the laws be faithfully executed, follows out the strong injunctions of his oath of office, that he will ‘preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution.’ The great object of the executive department is to accomplish this purpose." Story wrote further that if the president does not honor his oath, his office "will be utterly worthless for...the protection of rights; for the happiness, or good order, or safety of the people."

Members of Congress and commissioned military personnel are also required by statute to "solemnly swear, that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic [emphasis added]: that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same, that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion: So help me God."

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:20 | Link to Comment RockyRacoon
RockyRacoon's picture

Fat lotta good that oath has done so far.  Why now should they be expected to uphold it?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 23:01 | Link to Comment Swarmee
Swarmee's picture

Not to put you one the spot, Rocky, so rhetorically: what worse fate does an oath-taker face than one who simply offends against the same principles sans oath? My observation is none. No difference. So what is the worth of the oath? None as deterrent. Bring back accountability to one's honor, livelihood, and family. Let all oath-breakers be shunned by society and they and their family unable to even buy bread, assuming they survive their conviction in the law, and I guarantee honor will return to posts claiming such. Until then, expect all oaths to be broken with impunity for they who break them know their is no just recourse in modern day.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 00:40 | Link to Comment RockyRacoon
RockyRacoon's picture

Okay, I'm willing to shun them.  But other voters seem to keep putting them back in office ad infinitum!

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 00:49 | Link to Comment Swarmee
Swarmee's picture

Exactly. I hope you dont mind i took your comment merely as a launching point. Without a legal encoding, there is no deterrent. These people are not stupid, they know the rules and tiptoe around them as closely as plausible. Time to prosecute according to the spirit of the law, if the letter of the law is not clear then it needs adjusting, by us, the governed.

What part of "shall make no law" or "shall not infringe" is not clear? Apparently some folks need an education in the difference between 'should not' and 'shall not'. The point being that if we have allowed loopholes then let us, the people, the true sovereigns and conveyors of any power over us, define them clearly and enforce our intent with prejudice. We did not elect members of our populace to constrain us for the benefit of the elected, we elected them to represent us; the lesson has been lost on those given power. The power to rule is GRANTED, not inherent. Let those with the hubris to abuse it be educated in its origins.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 10:02 | Link to Comment RockyRacoon
RockyRacoon's picture

The Constitution dilutionists will always fall back on the "yelling fire in a crowded theater" rule.

Doncha know.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 20:57 | Link to Comment WhackoWarner
WhackoWarner's picture

Not only me but maybe the whole wide world is waiting wiith baited breath for all of this to become a bit more than talk.

When is the American public going to wake up?  I will buy futures on that bet....100:1  Now figure what side I take.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 20:51 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
Jim in MN's picture

We have only to ask:

'Cui Bozo?'

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 07:49 | Link to Comment jimmytorpedo
jimmytorpedo's picture

What Troll Magnet meant to say;

"I trust these people to RUIN my life, I trust these people to RUIN my life,..."

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:47 | Link to Comment Keynesian Mess
Keynesian Mess's picture

Thought I'd let you know that you mis-spelled "ruin" 7 times.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 20:32 | Link to Comment General Decline
General Decline's picture

He only misspelled it once. Cut & paste misspelled is 6 times.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 21:57 | Link to Comment Cobra
Cobra's picture

Haha! +1, I was gonna "fix" it, glad I scrolled down!

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 07:52 | Link to Comment jimmytorpedo
jimmytorpedo's picture

I should learn to scroll down.

I recognize that i'm impulsive.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 22:39 | Link to Comment Go Tribe
Go Tribe's picture

I want Congress to be my doctor.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 00:11 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
Colonel Klink's picture

I've never seen someone miss the "I" in ruin so often.  You must have cut and pasted the misspelling over and over.  I blame the flawed keyboard.

FORWARD!!!

 

EDIT:  Damn you Keynesian Mess you beat me to it.  I need to refresh articles more often.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 00:14 | Link to Comment Cynicles
Cynicles's picture

 

 

Forward

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:19 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
Sudden Debt's picture

maybe....

but I think...

That Obama....

DOESN'T KNOW JACK SHIT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THIS WORLD!!

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:28 | Link to Comment old naughty
old naughty's picture

Or, he doesn't give a shit...

after all, ants are under the boots, no?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:41 | Link to Comment knukles
knukles's picture

Is it on ESPN? 
Solves that, don't it?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:44 | Link to Comment Big Slick
Big Slick's picture

I HONESTLY think this guy is baked most of the time.  

They don't call him Choom for nothing.

He admits to being a cocaine user in his autobiography.

Being POTUS must get you unbelievable sh!t

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:55 | Link to Comment knukles
knukles's picture

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

          huh?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:07 | Link to Comment Agent P
Agent P's picture

True...but it's not his fault...nobody tells him anything.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 23:43 | Link to Comment eatthebanksters
eatthebanksters's picture

He's just in it for the perks...AF1, parties and awesome vacations! 

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:55 | Link to Comment steelhead23
steelhead23's picture

"I think that Obama doesn't know Jack Shit what's happening in this world!"  - Sudden Debt.  This is precisely the sentiment they are going for.

 

"White House press secretary Jay Carney said Monday that Chief of Staff Dennis McDonough and other senior officials knew of the general nature of the report but decided to keep the president in the dark about the report’s finding that the IRS had targeted conservative groups for extra tax scrutiny

 

Carney said it was the White House counsel Kathryn Ruemmler’s judgment that the matter should not be told to the president, and that she conveyed this sentiment to senior staff."

There is a shopworn term for what they are attempting here - plausible deniability.  In my opinion, Obama knew a great deal of what was going on.  Hint:  They weren't doing this for themselves.  He merely wishes to stand above the fray, let his minions take the fall, and keep on truckin.

 

Oh, BTW - I happen to believe that Tea Party activists got damned close to doing partisan politicking and some organizations should be scrutinized and perhaps lose their tax-exempt status.  But hey, I feel the same way about the Roman Catholic Church.

 

 

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 22:01 | Link to Comment Keegan11
Keegan11's picture

Spot on - all of it.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 22:57 | Link to Comment Swarmee
Swarmee's picture

Pardon me for barging in half-drunk, but.... FUCK tax exemption for whatever the fuck mythical legend one believes in. Do you own land? Is land taxed in your district? Congratulations, you owe taxes!

If the purpose of religious tax exemption is to prevent discrimination of beliefs then the answer is simple, tax them all at the same rate, which is NOT ZERO. Why do my taxes have to subsidize the faith of every idiot who wanted to build near the center of town? Land is land is land. Tax it all at the same rates or not at all.

End of rant, begin of next beer. Sorry, carry on.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 02:05 | Link to Comment defender
defender's picture

Actually, tax exempt status for religious orgs was started to allow groups that operated soup kitchens and the like to get more of their received money to the poor that they serve.  It grew after other groups figured out the benefit, but at least it had some benefit to society at its base.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:20 | Link to Comment t0mmyBerg
t0mmyBerg's picture

Brings to mind one of my favorite lines from a long forgotten 80s movie called Head Office.  "Lying God Damned Bastard!"

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 20:26 | Link to Comment Chupacabra-322
Chupacabra-322's picture

Focus Hedgers! Eyes on the prize. Bengazi, Bengazi, Bengazi.

The rest, although Criminal & treason is just a distraction.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 23:37 | Link to Comment Jake88
Jake88's picture

You're right. Benghazi is high crimes and treason. Worthy of serious jail time though I wish they would hang the POS.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 20:26 | Link to Comment Chupacabra-322
Chupacabra-322's picture

Focus Hedgers! Eyes on the prize. Bengazi, Bengazi, Bengazi.

The rest, although Criminal & treason is just a distraction.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:27 | Link to Comment HelluvaEngineer
HelluvaEngineer's picture

Ever heard of "falling on your sword"?  In DC terminology, this is called "falling on your dildo."

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:49 | Link to Comment Everybodys All ...
Everybodys All American's picture

I can see it now the slick willy defense. It depends on what the word 'know' means. Or I thought you said 'no'.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 10:05 | Link to Comment RockyRacoon
RockyRacoon's picture

In 1972 I was 24 years old.   In 1974 after 40-odd people had gone to prison for Watergate I was a bit older.

I laugh at these amateurish shenanigans, as I laugh at the hyperventilation amongst the media and the citizenry about the comparisons.

Watergate it ain't... yet.  This would be small potatoes in the real world.  But this is not a real world; it is one created and managed by the oligarchs, financiers, and the controlled media.  The whole thing is a distraction fostered by both sides of the aisle to keep from doing anything about anything.

Since there has been massive inflation in just about everything of value in the U. S., I guess we can now add the word "scandal" to the list.

Nowhere have I said that illegalities did not occur, nor did I say that some people should be fired or prosecuted.  I simply said that it doesn't deserve the scrutiny and sensationalism that has transpired thus far.   Since it has risen to this level, the only alternative is a Special Counsel to investigate.   Would you like to know the outcome of any Special Council?  It will be called a white-wash no matter what is found.   Conclusion: There is no satisfaction to come of this -- just as it took time, lots of time, for Watergate to fade away.   Many deserving folk never served a day in jail for what was done then, and the same will happen now.

It will all happen again in another year, by another governmental agency or department.  I, for one, don't intend to waste my energies pointing fingers or analyzing every news agency or governmental pronouncement.  I did that from 1972 through 1974 and wish I had every minute back to do something constructive with my time.   Again, did I say it was not worthy of thought nor consideration?  No.  I just meant that I'd rather control my own time and energy rather than let it be controlled by others.  Losing my composure, frothing at the brain, and assuming guilt or innocence based upon political party lines is exactly what those in power would have happen.   They'll not get that from me, ever again.

Politicians, pundits, and those who would obfuscate are PAID to do just that.  Until they PAY me to become concerned before the facts are clear, I'll just go on my merry way.  That applies to the entire trifecta of "scandals" now on the agendas of those who would seek money and power from discrediting another over a slight degree of political difference.

Edit:  I see one down arrow so far.  I suspect more will follow but the up arrows are appreciated.  There is at least one reader who finds my lack of outrage unacceptable.  Since there was no reply to my post I'll chalk it up to my lack of partisanship on the situation(s) now unfolding.

Edit:  Still no reply and 2 down arrows so far.  I guess that's pretty good for going against the grain of the general thesis to blame without evidence.

 

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:00 | Link to Comment johngaltfla
Mon, 05/20/2013 - 20:42 | Link to Comment General Decline
General Decline's picture

It's only 1/2 ok.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:25 | Link to Comment Everybodys All ...
Everybodys All American's picture

It's a good thing Obama is wire tapping everyone or he wouldn't know what the hell is going on.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:37 | Link to Comment Jdog
Jdog's picture

Come on people! Give Obama a break please! This poor guy didn't even know he was born in Kenya! He doesn't know anything, all he knows is blame Bush on everything. 

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 20:20 | Link to Comment Chupacabra-322
Chupacabra-322's picture

@ fuu,

No. CRIMINALS!

Bengazi
Fast & Furious
NDAA
Tortire
Rendition
Americans targeted for assignation via drones
War Crimes
Illegal wars of aggression without congressional approval
Arming, funding & training AL CIA duh via State Dept, CIA, NATO, Turkey
Economic terrorism MF Global LIBOR
911 Inside Job
Illegal Wire Tapping

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 22:44 | Link to Comment Go Tribe
Go Tribe's picture

Don't be a racist. Black men have to work harder - president said so.

Just another one of those people who annoy me.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 20:17 | Link to Comment Slightly Insane
Slightly Insane's picture

3 choices ;

the first - he is an idiot (75 IQ. - a complete dumbshit) ... his existance is by others (he is someone else's ass clown)

the second - he's normal (100 IQ, and just a shit bag liar ..... but why the fucking teleprompter .... and why would I marry Chewbacca unless I was queer?)

the third - above average (125+ IQ) - just why the fuck would I need a teleprompter, why would I marry an Amazon idiot whose looks are less then standard, and why would I hire so many assholes around me?  (Why would I be a communist / socialist / fascist?)

 

Which is it folks?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 20:51 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
Jim in MN's picture

They learned it from Enron and Goldman.

We need to take out the global elites.  Physically remove them from the equation.  Not hurt them of course.  In a very Buddhist but firm manner.  Perhaps take them to a small island or padded cell for a couple of decades.

Perhaps then our childish political class will learn to behave with more decorum.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 03:55 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
Herd Redirection Committee's picture

There's a sign in Fight Club which shows what is needed.  Its when the Police Chief is dragged to the bathroom, and they put the elastic around... ummmm...  Watch the movie.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:07 | Link to Comment docmac324
docmac324's picture

SACs of shit.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:08 | Link to Comment Bastiat
Bastiat's picture

I wonder when Valerie Jarret knew?  Maybe just before she gave the direction?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:44 | Link to Comment Tucson Tom
Tucson Tom's picture

Bingo! The chicago puppet master.She has been running him for years.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:54 | Link to Comment Dealer
Dealer's picture

+1 TT!!

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 20:30 | Link to Comment Chupacabra-322
Chupacabra-322's picture

@ Tucson Tom,

"Running him." I bet she's his CIA handler.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:10 | Link to Comment LetsGetPhysical
LetsGetPhysical's picture

The old potomac two step. 

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:11 | Link to Comment Temporalist
Temporalist's picture

Plausible doucheability

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:12 | Link to Comment sharky2003
sharky2003's picture

Sorry, but I have trouble believing this.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:27 | Link to Comment Zero Govt
Zero Govt's picture

it's the Govt officials that are having more trouble remembering this

they've all got memories like Jon Corzine under testimony

I knew Govt was staffed by village idiots and cretins but epic memory loss is a new human failing worth noting of this most dumb of all human institutions

why didn't Mr President just say right at the beginning, "I know shit man!"

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 20:03 | Link to Comment Pure Evil
Pure Evil's picture

 

"I know shit man!"

 

That only works if you're holding a lit Philly Blunt while riding around in a 60's Choom wagon.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:13 | Link to Comment overmedicatedun...
overmedicatedundersexed's picture

glad we have all those thoughtful, compassionate, nurturing women in high office, our gov reflects this change in the intrusion in all our lives of those who would mother us all..a nation led by women has become the most corrupt and murderous gang in our history.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:17 | Link to Comment ekm
ekm's picture

Are you going to believe me now that both Obama and Boehner have given up and stopped leading?

Nobody would go golfing as often as both of them, if they were actually busy.

 

There are at least two elite groups fighting for dominance on the gov, and both Obama and Boehner are waiting to speak with the winner.

 

My take:

Big oil and big hedge funds on one side

Pharma, big banks, unions on the other

Alliances are very fluid. Military complex which is the biggest guy seems to have sided with the big oil.

 

Inside the Fed it's clear that Fisher + Plosser are with Big Oil and Evans + Yellen are with Pharma, however the structure is such that Bernanke is directly accountable to Obama first and Boehner second.

Seeing Boehner being an woosy, Obama has been ordering Benny to do what Pharma and Big banks and unions have asked for so far, but Obama seems to have withdrawn and let them fight

 

Fascinating.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:34 | Link to Comment ekm
ekm's picture

Reminder, constitutionally, Boehner, Reid and Obama are co-equal.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:44 | Link to Comment knukles
knukles's picture

Reminder, from an IQ standpoint, there is a world of difference

Fight Club!

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:49 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
Herd Redirection Committee's picture

Big oil and big banks opposed to one another. Ha! Hahhahahaha. Ha.

Ever heard of Rockefeller?  Ever heard of who financed the Nobel brothers over in Baku?  The Bush family?

No, there might be groups competing, but primarily it is the peasants against their noble overlords (the billionaires).

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:01 | Link to Comment ekm
ekm's picture

Alliances amongst elite are always fluid.

It used to be like that, but interests change abruptly.

 

Big banks are cutting into big oil's pie, I think

Shell, BP's offices were raided in europe because.......big banks complained.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:26 | Link to Comment ekm
ekm's picture

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW28Mb1YvwY&feature=youtu.be

fascinating first footage of F-35 takeoff

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:43 | Link to Comment ekm
ekm's picture

1) The FIGHT would consist over deep disagreements on GOVERNMENT MONEY ALLOCATIONS to all influential lobbies

 

2) The fight would consist on how many congresmen and senators they have in the pocket to vote for those said money allocations.

 

3) Military complex is seeing cuts but pharma is seeing revenue due to obamacare and big banks are seeing record bonuses.

 

Military is mad and wants those funds back, hence fighting obamacare  and big banks to divert funds over to military again.

Bob Woodward (military's man) showed up again and trying to keep Benghazi pressure cooker alive.

Pressure has been put on JPM's Dimon also.

 

This is fascinating. Elite vs Elite in the Open, not in the shadows.

 

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 20:20 | Link to Comment sleestak
sleestak's picture

Insightful post.  I have thought many times that this administration, rather than bringing an agenda to the table, appears to need one handed to it, then uses Obama's speechin' and ethnic teflicity to execute.  Shelby Steele made a great point early in the first term: O is not a lefty because he gives a crap, but because for someone as self-absorbed as he is, a statist agenda is the only one he could sell.  Restrained gov't, self-sufficiency, etc. doesn't rhyme with his view of himself in power.  A sitting duck for Reid, Pelosi, Jarret, Rahm... Thinks he's the man but he does their bidding.  Pathetic.

And another thing, a friend pointed out recently that when the Fed bailed out European banks in '08-9, it broke the US law.  The admin waived prosecution, but now owns Bernank.  Makes sense to me.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 21:01 | Link to Comment ekm
ekm's picture

Same with Boehner on the other side.

He's extremely powerful, but not using his power at all, actually he's impeding others to attack the administration.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 22:43 | Link to Comment sleestak
sleestak's picture

Boehner is powerful but has no executive authority.  O's team knew this and played him like a fiddle (a few times), knowing that even if he could get his caucus to a conciliatory position, O could change their position on a dime while JB would have to go through a whole 'nother round of selling to already reluctant House majority.  When Boehner said he would never do business with O again, that's what he was complaining about.  "Post-partisan" baby.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 21:03 | Link to Comment ekm
ekm's picture

Excellent point about Shelby Steele's depiction of Obama.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:13 | Link to Comment monad
monad's picture

I did not "have" sex with that woman. Define "is".

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:46 | Link to Comment knukles
knukles's picture

Correct Answer:  The Null Set

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:50 | Link to Comment Big Slick
Big Slick's picture

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky."

That line was directed TO Monica ABOUT Hillary

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:53 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
Herd Redirection Committee's picture

Clinton even did the quotation fingers when saying "woman".

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:58 | Link to Comment knukles
knukles's picture

While referring to Hillary, Janet and Sotomayor

 

Oh God, I can just hear him now with that soft slight drawl, commenting upon the 3 of 'em "being one hell of a lotta woman"

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:08 | Link to Comment ThisIsBob
ThisIsBob's picture

Hillary Clinton - one of the few women in the world that could make Monica Lewinsky look good.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:14 | Link to Comment HD
HD's picture

For once Obama may have done us a favor.  This circus seems to have put the gun control and internet sales tax BS on the back-burner.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:22 | Link to Comment Bollixed
Bollixed's picture

Another midnight vote, perhaps?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:14 | Link to Comment Temporalist
Temporalist's picture

Speaking of taxes:

Senate investigators: Apple avoided $44 billion in taxes

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/apple-taxes-offshore-senate-invest...

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:17 | Link to Comment Charles Nelson ...
Charles Nelson Reilly's picture

44 billion!?! That's like 10 days of Bernanke's magic printing press

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 20:32 | Link to Comment kchrisc
kchrisc's picture

Be reminded that businesses do NOT pay taxes, ever. Their customers pay what ever costs that a business incurs and taxes are a "cost" of doing business under a particular group of criminals called government.

So what really happened is this: to keep costs down, Apple managed the "cost" called taxes and kept their prices down to the tune of some $44 bil. The thieves and murderers that they adroitly avoided now want their "cut" and are going to rake them over the coals to get it. I'll bet that even now numerous sheeple, the ones that ultimately pay, are already saying "yeah, how dare they not pay their 'fair share." LOL

hujel

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:14 | Link to Comment Ljoot
Ljoot's picture

Needs moar Geithner.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:16 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
SheepDog-One's picture

We know nothing! NOTHING!!

But give us a .1% drop in the unemployment rate and ObaMao will knock down grannies getting to a camera to take full credit for doing that.

Soooo....I suppose you had NO idea about State Dept. wiretapping AP reporters and congress itself either? Yea I'm sure it's all news to you on that too. Benghazi? Fast n Furious? 

'No Comment' I'm sure.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:25 | Link to Comment Meat Hammer
Meat Hammer's picture

but give us a .1% drop in the unemployment rate and ObaMao will knock down grannies getting to a camera to take full credit for doing that.

 

+1!  So hilarious because it's so true.  

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:15 | Link to Comment Bastiat
Bastiat's picture

 

President met with anti-Tea Party IRS union chief the day before agency targeted Tea Party.

http://spectator.org/archives/2013/05/20/obama-and-the-irs-the-smoking

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:16 | Link to Comment JustObserving
JustObserving's picture

Since when did Obama have any credibility?  Obama may start a war with Syria or Iran to wag the dog. Whenever a US president is in trouble, people die.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:17 | Link to Comment observer007
observer007's picture

It seems we didn't know the whole story about what the White House knew when about the Internal Revenue Service's improper targeting of conservatives.

IRS = GESTAPO

like it the former Nazi German 3rd Reich.

Nothing else!

Latest News:

http://tersee.com/#q=irs&t=text

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 22:48 | Link to Comment Go Tribe
Go Tribe's picture

Yes, I wish people would stop calling it the IRS and start calling it what it is: the Treasury Police.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:18 | Link to Comment TheEdelman
TheEdelman's picture

need moar tornado ...

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:20 | Link to Comment TulsaTime
TulsaTime's picture

Big feaking deal, how about investigating our financial overlords? How about acknowledging Climate Change?  

IRS being mean to local political groups, IT IS UNHEARD OF AND WILL BE THE END OF THE REPUBLIK.....give me a break.

 

Talk about circus absurdica, lets all run around and piss ourselves over stained drapes while the house catches fire.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:03 | Link to Comment Sabibaby
Sabibaby's picture

Didn't Obama promise hope and change in regard to financial overlords and climate change? 

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:21 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
Seasmoke's picture

Why do any if us, ever need to listen to anyone above us ever again.

On every level. They are overpaid. And know nothing.

I let no one tell me how to live my life.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:24 | Link to Comment Kinskian
Kinskian's picture

Limbaugh says that Obama will get a pass on these scandals because he is the first black president. I think he's right. But if blacks are the equals of whites, why must we always hold them to a lower standard of performance?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:29 | Link to Comment TrustWho
TrustWho's picture

Chris Mathews calls you a white supremist racist SOB....that is the answer to your question.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:31 | Link to Comment blabam
blabam's picture

Fuck Limbaugh.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:42 | Link to Comment HelluvaEngineer
HelluvaEngineer's picture

You don't watch too much TV, do ya?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:05 | Link to Comment ThisIsBob
ThisIsBob's picture

Affirmative action gone horribly wrong.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:27 | Link to Comment TrustWho
TrustWho's picture

...exactly when does this government run out of money. This circus needs to end SOON.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:27 | Link to Comment Oldwood
Oldwood's picture

HE has never actaully taken ownership of his position. He instead has maintained his position as campaigner in chief. AS long as he maintains his campaign role he can act as if he is still the outsider and all of the crap his administration is doing is not being done by him. He just keeps talking and campaining as though someone else is POTUS. He knows nothing! Talk radio is responsible for violence, conservatives are responsible for dirty air and water, not to mention global warming and he knows nothing. Nobody tells him anything. He is a mushroom, existing only in the dark. Actually vampire would be more appropriate.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:40 | Link to Comment Hedgetard55
Hedgetard55's picture

The Limbaugh Theorem in action.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:44 | Link to Comment you enjoy myself
you enjoy myself's picture

with one exception, the killing of Bin Laden.  he used the first person like 326 times during his endzone dance - "i directed", "i instructed my national security team", "at my direction", "i determined that we had enough intelligence", etc.   other than that, he apparently learns about everything else via ESPN and Twitter.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:29 | Link to Comment world_debt_slave
world_debt_slave's picture

Obama was groomed by his CIA handlers from the beginning of his climb from obscurity

 

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:45 | Link to Comment JustObserving
JustObserving's picture

Few know that Obama's first job was with Business International Corporation, a CIA front company.  Obama conveniently forgets to mention this fact in his autobiography - "Dreams from My Father."

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:06 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
Herd Redirection Committee's picture

Step 1:  Go to Google.

Step 2: Type "All in the Company"

Step 3: Pay attention.  Although I think Madsen may be wrong about Obama's father being Barack Obama Sr (maybe Frank Marshall Davis).

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:30 | Link to Comment ThisIsBob
ThisIsBob's picture

Well thank goodness for news leaks, otherwise the president wouldn't know anything.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:40 | Link to Comment Everybodys All ...
Everybodys All American's picture

GOOGLE news ... - http://www.mediaite.com/tv/co-conspirator-fox-news-reporter-james-rosens-private-emails-given-to-justice-dept-by-google/

... might want to consider Bing instead for search and someone else for email. The Obama administration is literally out of control and to believe the president had no knowledge of this all going on is ridiculous.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:50 | Link to Comment knukles
knukles's picture

googggle and the nnnsa are bedfellows...
from initial funding to presence on campus...

go figure

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:53 | Link to Comment Everybodys All ...
Everybodys All American's picture

Yeah and if you recall Eric Schmidt recently was placed on some stupid presidents council, might have been a jobs council. Obama Fascism in your face.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:28 | Link to Comment Muppet Pimp
Muppet Pimp's picture

Putting the russian guy in charge of IT may turn out to be a mistake....

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:42 | Link to Comment lesamourai
lesamourai's picture

StartPage is an option for secure, unrecorded web searching.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:41 | Link to Comment Hedgetard55
Hedgetard55's picture

If Barry Choomwagon wasn't half soul brother he would have been removed from office by now.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:51 | Link to Comment StarTedStackin'
StarTedStackin''s picture

he's black ya'll

now he's black ya'll

he's blacker than black

blick blickity black

now he's black ya'll....

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFY2kJ96jNY

 

That seems to be his idea of a viable defense.....

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:43 | Link to Comment Waterfallsparkles
Waterfallsparkles's picture

They may think we are sheep but do they really think they can pull the wool over our eyes?

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:45 | Link to Comment StarTedStackin'
StarTedStackin''s picture

They just have to convince the stupid......i.e. the people who HAD jobs and worked for a living that voted for the Obowel Movement TWICE!

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 20:20 | Link to Comment Lost Word
Lost Word's picture

That is called being "Hoodwinked", which is Freemasonry terminology for blind obedience to Jews.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:44 | Link to Comment StarTedStackin'
StarTedStackin''s picture

Yep, he didn't know that the anti Tea Party IRS Union official, who had publicly made it her goal to attack the Tea Party, who he met with on a tuesday would start auditing the Tea Party on Wednesday!!!

 

 

It's time to flush the Obowel Movement........

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:44 | Link to Comment The Heart
The Heart's picture

Ah ha ha ha haaaa ha!

How funny.

In a total Maxwell Smart style, it's the old knew what they knew we did not know they knew we know about them knowing nothing about what we did not know they thought they knew when really no one knows a thing, eh!

Typical, and totally gut popping hilarious!!!

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:47 | Link to Comment Payne
Payne's picture

They have already said the same thing on Bengazi, that it didn't matter where Obama was since he doesn't matter.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:52 | Link to Comment knukles
knukles's picture

I don't think they said it quite that way... 
Hell, that'd be the truth!

:)

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 18:59 | Link to Comment StarTedStackin'
StarTedStackin''s picture

Does it bother anyone else that our ambassador to Libya was gang raped to death at Bungghazi, and the pro homosexual Socialist media is silent?

 

 

From what I gather, Obowel watched drone footage of the multiple gang rapes of our Ambassador, excused himself and went to the men's room, masturbated, then went to bed early to rest up for his golf trip to Vegas the next day.

 

 

 

google libya gang rape ambassador, you can't make this shit up!

 

 

heck, it's as plausible as the tale the Obowel Movement shot out of it's dirt hole!

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:02 | Link to Comment StarTedStackin'
StarTedStackin''s picture

Down arrowing coward want to refute some facts?

 

 

lol@SnivelingPussies

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:04 | Link to Comment bunnyswanson
bunnyswanson's picture

My theory is that this man angered someone, showed reservations, voiced opposition or presented a problem because of what he knew and they set him up.  Sending a gay man to an area where civil unrest with armed religious radicals is not a wise decision.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:23 | Link to Comment StarTedStackin'
StarTedStackin''s picture

ahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

 

 

Sending an openly gay Ambassador to an area known to HATE and KILL phags!

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:38 | Link to Comment thelibcentury
thelibcentury's picture

like...

 

    your mind?

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!