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Guest Post: Centralization And Sociopathology

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Submitted by Charles Hugh-Smith of OfTwoMinds blog,

Concentrated power and wealth are intrinsically sociopathological by their very nature.

 
I have long spoken of the dangers inherent to centralization of power and the extreme concentrations of wealth centralization inevitably creates.
 
 
Longtime contributor C.D. recently highlighted another danger of centralization: sociopaths/psychopaths excel in organizations that centralize power, and their ability to flatter, browbeat and manipulate others greases their climb to the top.
 
In effect, centralization is tailor-made for sociopaths gaining power. Sociopaths seek power over others, and centralization gives them the perfect avenue to control over millions or even entire nations.
 
Even worse (from the view of non-sociopaths), their perverse abilities are tailor-made for excelling in office and national politics via ruthless elimination of rivals and enemies and grandiose appeals to national greatness, ideological purity, etc.
 
As C.D. points out, the ultimate protection against sociopathology is to minimize the power held in any one agency, organization or institution:

After you watch these films on psychopaths, I think you'll have an even greater understanding of why your premise of centralization is a key problem of our society. The first film points out that psychopaths generally thrive in the corporate/government top-down organization (I have seen it happen in my agency, unfortunately) and that when they come to power, their values (or lack thereof) tend to pervade the organization to varying degrees. In some cases, they end up creating secondary psychopaths which is kind of like a spiritual/moral disease that infects people. 

If we are to believe the premise in the film that there are always psychopaths among us in small numbers, it follows then that we must limit the power of any one institution, whether it's private or public, so that the damage created by psychopaths is limited. 

It is very difficult for many people to fathom that there are people in our society that are that evil, for lack of a better term, and it is even harder for many people in society to accept that people in the higher strata of our society can exhibit these dangerous traits. 

The same goes for criminal behavior. From my studies, it's pretty clear that criminality is fairly constant throughout the different levels of our society and yet, it is the lower classes that are subjected to more scrutiny by law enforcement. The disparity between blue collar and white collar crime is pretty evident when one looks at arrests and sentencing. The total lack of effective enforcement against politically connected banks over the last few years is astounding to me and it sets a dangerous precedent. Corruption and psychopathy go hand in hand. 

A less dark reason for avoiding over centralization is that we have to be aware of normal human fallibility. Nobody possesses enough information, experience, ability, lack of bias, etc. to always make the right decisions.

Defense Against the Psychopath (video, 37 minutes; the many photos of political, religious and secular leaders will likely offend many/most; if you look past these outrages, there is useful information here)
 
The Sociopath Next Door (video, 37 minutes)
 
As C.D. observes, once sociopaths rule an organization or nation, they create a zombie army of secondary sociopaths beneath them as those who resist are undermined, banished, fired or exterminated. If there is any lesson to be drawn from Iraq, it is how a single sociopath can completely undermine and destroy civil society by empowering secondary sociopaths and eliminating or marginalizing anyone who dares to cling to their humanity, conscience and independence.
 
"Going along to get along" breeds passive acceptance of sociopathology as "the new normal" and mimicry of the values and techniques of sociopathology as the ambitious and fearful (i.e. almost everyone) scramble to emulate the "successful" leadership.
 
Organizations can be perverted into institutionalizing sociopathology via sociopathological goals and rules of conduct. Make the metric of success in war a body count of dead "enemy combatants" and you'll soon have dead civilians stacked like cordwood as proof of every units' outstanding success.
 
Make lowering unemployment the acme of policy success and soon every agency will be gaming and manipulating data to reach that metric of success. Make higher grades the metric of academic success and soon every kid is getting a gold star and an A or B.
 
Centralization has another dark side: those ensconced in highly concentrated centers of power (for example, The White House) are in another world, and they find it increasingly easy to become isolated from the larger context and to slip into reliance on sycophants, toadies (i.e. budding secondary sociopaths) and "experts" (i.e. apparatchiks and factotums) who are equally influenced by the intense "high" of concentrated power/wealth.
 
Increasingly out of touch with those outside the circle of power, those within the circle slide into a belief in the superiority of their knowledge, skills and awareness--the very definition of sociopathology.
 
Even worse (if that is possible), the incestuous nature of the tight circle of power breeds a uniformity of opinion and ideology that creates a feedback loop that marginalizes dissenters and those with open minds. Dissenters are soon dismissed--"not a team player"-- or trotted out for PR purposes, i.e. as evidence the administration maintains ties to the outside world.
 
Those few dissenters who resist the siren song of power soon face a choice: either quietly quit "to pursue other opportunities" (the easy way out) or quit in a blast of public refutation of the administration's policies.
 
Public dissenters are quickly crucified by those in power, and knowing this fate awaits any dissenter places a powerful disincentive on "going public" about the sociopathology of the inner circle of power.
 
On rare occasions, an insider has the courage and talent to secure documentation that details the sociopathology of a policy, agency or administration (for example, Daniel Ellsberg and The Pentagon Papers).
 
Nothing infuriates a sociopath or a sociopathological organization more than the exposure of their sociopathology, and so those in power will stop at nothing to silence, discredit, criminalize or eliminate the heroic whistleblower.
 
In these ways, centralized power is itself is a sociopathologizing force. We cannot understand the present devolution of our civil society, economy and ethics unless we understand that concentrated power and wealth are intrinsically sociopathological by their very nature.
 
The solution: a culture of decentralization, transparency and open competition, what I call the DATA model (Decentralized, Adaptive, Transparent and Accountable) in my book Why Things Are Falling Apart and What We Can Do About It.
 


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Tue, 05/21/2013 - 12:37 | Link to Comment Ruffcut
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They like weaving their spider webs, like the greedy little spiders they are. No morals, all about money, power and more money, hoes and blow.

Thedy justify that they are extra special and beyond reproach. I guess my turds are special like that. I will never look at the toilet the same, again.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:18 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Gee, this is exactly what I was talking about in the Apple witch-hunt thread.

Nothing positive can EVER come from forced centralization. Only in a voluntary world does collaboration yield positive results, as the unimpeded judgement (and freedom to act upon it) of the individual is the only thing that empowers the "ever vigilance" required for a harmonious society.

You want leaders? Fine, follow anyone you wish, knowing you can remove your support at any time they fail to share your beliefs. Just don't claim they have any legitimate claim to power over me.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:39 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
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I remember taking an Organizational Behavior class a couple years ago (yes, I was forced) and we talked about Centralization vs Decentralization (briefly!)

We talked about, I shit you not, the positives and negatives of decentralization, and the positives of centralization.

Seriously!  There was NO discussion of the negatives of centralization!  Of course I brought it up, that all the positives of decentralization were unmentioned weaknesses of centralizing...

As for psycho/sociopaths, one has never been cured.  In history.  Ever.  They have to be outed, one by one.  But it should be for the psychopathic actions, because otherwise the psychos will label THEIR ENEMIES as  'the real psychopaths'.

For some reason our society just does not tolerate the use of the word 'evil'.  The media and Hollywood really don't address the problem of psychopathy ever.  Its time to realize that the most well-adjusted psycho/sociopaths are the biggest threat to humanity.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:47 | Link to Comment James_Cole
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Centralization of anything is against basic laws of nature, which is why it will always fail. Whether it's computer chips, capital flows or a farm - distributed systems / biodiversity always has better chance of survival. The more hegemonic the system the more prone to shocks and failure. 

The elephant in the room of this discussion being capitalism leading to concentration of power systems....

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:27 | Link to Comment 1C3-N1N3
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capitalism leading to concentration of power systems

It is the masses' predisposition toward submission that leads to concentration of power systems. The economic system in place is entirely irrelevant in this context. Whether the masses operate under capitalism, socialism, or mixed economies, they will remain subjects in any case, as it is their preference to be subjects.

A mixed economy with this population will lead to concentration of power. Capitalism with this population will lead to concentration of power. Socialism with this population will lead to concentration of power. I can go on all day. This population is incapable at the moment of protesting against concentration of power, because concentration of power is what they want.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 16:11 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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I disagree.  I believe that humans are inherently lazy and apathetic.  Simply put, we cannot live on the razor's edge all the time in a life of political and economic turmoil.  We make a bed in denial and then, eventually, collectively wake up enough to do a few chores, cut out beard, and drink some booze before passing out again for a long nap.  We don't have a pre-disposition to submission...  it inherently makes virtually everyone feel bad.  Instead, we have a pre-disposition to apathy and putting off til tomorrow whatever we can in an effort to maximize our present self interest...  the fact that someone else will take over and half-ass do the "leading" is enough for us to submit and maximize our time with other, more important (micro) pursuits, e.g. family, friends, NBA PLAYOFFS! 

However, this seeming apathy is only temporary...  the fact that people don't like taxes, don't like stop and frisk, don't like having to live in fear of everything, don't like the way the pills make them feel about themselves when not on them...  all of these build resentment in the population...  eventually this resentment turns to contempt...  and at such time, the appearance of "willful submission" takes a sour turn...  happens over and over and over again throughout history...  the only question is the general tolerance level of the population...  and I'll put americans' tolerance at...  a really high level at the present, but ever decreasing proportionately with the deterioration in the real economy.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 16:20 | Link to Comment 1C3-N1N3
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Humans aren't inherently apathetic. We'd have been dead and gone in the wild ages ago if apathy were a natural human trait. Apathy came about, particularly in the USA, through conditioning and a general absence of grueling stress over the duration of our lifetimes. Yankees (and I am one) have had it easier than anyone else. And so a lot of people here become complacent which opens the door for apathy. That'll be over soon.

You say that once the people do start caring, they will lose their tolerance and their submissiveness. I agree that the apathy will be gone, but not the submission. I say they will ultimately capitulate and beg for aid from their masters because that is their programming now. And that is their programming now because TPTB are also aware of history. They wrote it.

The answer ultimately lies in whether the population as a whole chooses to act out of fear, or out of love. And this is an easily-spooked bunch.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 16:38 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
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I sometimes wish I could grab and shake 90% of the population and yell:

"You have been LIED TO YOUR ENTIRE LIFE!"

"The gov't and the media are lying to you!"

"The gov't is NOT looking out for you!"

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 17:12 | Link to Comment 1C3-N1N3
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+1, I know what you mean.

That don't work, though.

Anytime I preach to the masses, they see it as my conclusions, not theirs. It is very easy for them to reject my conclusions, because my conclusions aren't theirs. They cannot take ownership of my conclusions, only theirs.

What I can do is get some conversational buy-in. Be likeable and trustworthy. I can give them snippets of information, but never the big picture (that shit drives them away). I can even help recreate the circumstances under which I "woke up". But the conclusions must become theirs, and not mine.

Ultimately, those who vigilantly adhere to value systems that differ greatly from yours or mine are beyond our reach.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:27 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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Denial...  another natural state of man.

No one is out of reach...  it's simply an issue of incentive.  They'll listen to you once they're incentivized to listen to you.  In the largest part and for a very long time, they are completely correct to think that if they keep believing in the status quo, that it will continue to exist.  In the end, it will be they who change their own perceptions.  At the very best, you're just going to do some minor guidance.

When you attempt to change someone's perception, about anything, it typically says more about you than them...

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:21 | Link to Comment Kobe Beef
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+1. Likable, trustworthy, and provide snippets.

A useful technique I've employed is to simply ask questions. Fundamental questions, like "What is money?" or, "Who put Lenin on the sealed train?" "What is the difference between x and y?" Appeal to empirical evidence.

The intellectually curious will then investigate on their own. Knowledge they can gain themselves is prized more highly than whatever truths you can provide them with. As it should be.

Unfortunately, nothing can be done for those who aren't curious. They don't know, don't want to know, and don't care that they don't know.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 17:21 | Link to Comment jimmytorpedo
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May I recommend everybody watch this?

I send it to everybody I know.

It clears a lot of this up if you can convince people to spend the time watching it instead of dancing with the bozo's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbNu0Akyj4s

Well worth it.

Please share it with your less brain dead associates and friends.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:17 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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Apathy and laziness are our default states...  it's just that sometimes our environment demands otherwise.  I agree that we desire to survive...  but we also desire to rent seek and coast.  We are risk averse in our efforts to survive.  Once our environmental constraints are met, then our natural state is revealed.  (let's face it, killing wild game and farming...  fending off raiders...  avoiding natural disasters...  is hard work!).  This is not something that is "taught" through "conditioning"...  In short, I agree that we strive to survive, but with some incredibly large caveats...  e.g. that if we can survive without doing anything or risking anything, that we'll sure as hell do it.  If we're not inherently lazy, then we sure strive to be.  Mentally, we're simply not equipped to deal with constant strife.

The first portion of the "change" will be for folks to beg for more handouts...  see greece...  however, eventually the free shit army runs out of other peoples' money.  I'm not sure this is inherently submissive...  Rather, I'll posit that it's a bargain.  We choose to trade our independence and vigilence for creature comforts...  safety...  rent seeking/laziness...  the ability to be politically and economically apathetic (it's impossible for us to give up all interests...  unless we start pill popping).  Submissiveness isn't inherently in us, but bargaining is.  Where people start getting mad is when the bargain they made turns out to be a terrible one...  one that was destined to fail (credit bubble/currency collapse).

As far as induction is concerned, the odds say you are correct...  however, there is that chance, every once and a while, that the outcome is different...  deductively, I'm not sure we can accurately forecast what will happen this time...

 

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 19:28 | Link to Comment 1C3-N1N3
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I retract everything.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 15:49 | Link to Comment They trynna cat...
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Humanity itself is hardwired to decentralize. Just look at the history of the Christian church: we started out with one and now there are basically a million variations (Catholic, Protestant, Baptist, Lutheran, Episcopalian, Presbyterian, Unitarian, nondenominational, etc. etc.). And forget race or ethnicity, just look at families; how common is it for siblings, cousins, etc. to cut each other off after some petty disagreement. It's HUMAN NATURE.

That's what the sick deluded leftists just can't understand. Like I posted before, the useful idiots that comprise the left and their sick sociopath masters have made a utopian bed for us, and they're going to make us fit in it even if they have to saw off our limbs to accomplish it.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:50 | Link to Comment malusDiaz
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Valar Morgulis:  "All Men Die" ~ On a long enough time frame.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:17 | Link to Comment css1971
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You don't get cured of a personality disorder, it is who you are.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:27 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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Lifelong Asperger's and glad of it.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 01:56 | Link to Comment Ctrl_P
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I call bullshit.

Personality is who you are. A disorder is increased rigidity in your adaptation to your social environment. Much like central planning is increasing rigidity in economic activity. You can learn both rigidity and flexibility. Both are habits in brain function. Both are reflected in behaviour, both are reflected in communities and populations and both are measures of the health of society.

Social function, trade, marriage, family and dare I say it, political activity are adaptations that are learned and relearned through every social progression but only when they have to be. The question I ask, is which time of the season are we in now?

 

Cheers.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:41 | Link to Comment Race Car Driver
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Two words: Traitor & Treason

 

Neither existed anywhere on this page until I typed and posted them. Neither are used anywhere near enough for our current times, situations and events.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:54 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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While those may be nice buzz words they're much harder to prove than the standard "high crimes and misdemeanors" which is what most of these politicians should be charged with.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:39 | Link to Comment Henry Hub
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"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason." - John Harrington

Obviously treason does prosper greatly in this country. That is why there is very little talk of it.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:27 | Link to Comment prains
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Why not just call this article;

 

Dick Cheney_How to....My Life in Gov't

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 12:37 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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Watch the hearings.  We're already there.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 12:41 | Link to Comment Ruffcut
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I'll watch it, just let me know when a huge tornado blows thru it, first.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:43 | Link to Comment sgt_doom
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Exactly!

Who owns GE, AT&T, JPMorgan Chase, Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, Citigroup?

ExxonMobil?

Historically, one-half of BP was owned by the British gov't (meaning the Bank of England, or its owners, the City of London Corporation), the other half owned by the Rockefeller, Mellon and Rothschild families.

Bet its ownership is still the same?

Rio Tinto is Rothschild, while historically JPMorgan Chase is a Rockefeller-Morgan concern, and AT&T, originally majority owned by Morgan (and minority ownership to Vanderbilt, which family essentially married into the Morgan family) was later transferred to the Rockefeller family (believe due to Morgan needing further funds for his purchase of Carnegie's steel company).

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:29 | Link to Comment samsara
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Neat fact.

Did you know that the president of CBS and the president of ABCboth have brothers that are top officials in the Obama administration?

Who Owns them?

 

Time Warner CNN
Home Box Office (HBO)
Time Inc.
Turner Broadcasting System, Inc.
Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.
CW Network (partial ownership)
TMZ
New Line Cinema
Time Warner Cable
Cinemax
Cartoon Network
TBS
TNT
America Online
MapQuest
Moviefone
Castle Rock
Sports Illustrated
Fortune
Marie Claire
DC Comics
People Magazine                                                                                  Walt Disney ABC Television Network
Disney Publishing
ESPN Inc.
Disney Channel
The History Channel
SOAPnet
A&E
Lifetime
Buena Vista Home Entertainment
Buena Vista Theatrical Productions
Buena Vista Records
Disney Records
Hollywood Records
Miramax Films
Touchstone Pictures
Walt Disney Pictures
Pixar Animation Studios
277 Radio Stations
Buena Vista Games
Hyperion Books                                                                           Viacom Paramount Pictures
Paramount Home Entertainment
Black Entertainment Television (BET)
Comedy Central
Country Music Television (CMT)
Logo
MTV
MTV Canada
MTV2
Nick Magazine
Nick at Nite
Nick Jr.
Nickelodeon
Noggin
Spike TV
The Movie Channel
TV Land
VH1                                                               News Corporation Dow Jones & Company, Inc.
Fox Television Stations
The New York Post
TV Guide
Fox Searchlight Pictures
Beliefnet
Fox Business Network
Fox Kids Europe
Fox News Channel
Fox Sports Net
Fox Television Network
FX
My Network TV
MySpace
News Limited News
Phoenix InfoNews Channel
Phoenix Movies Channel
Sky PerfecTV
Speed Channel
STAR TV India
STAR TV Taiwan
STAR World
Times Higher Education Supplement Magazine
Times Literary Supplement Magazine
Times of London
20th Century Fox Home Entertainment
20th Century Fox International
20th Century Fox Studios
20th Century Fox Television
BSkyB
DIRECTV
The Wall Street Journal
Fox Broadcasting Company
Fox Interactive Media
FOXTEL
HarperCollins Publishers
The National Geographic Channel
National Rugby League
News Interactive
News Outdoor
Radio Veronica
ReganBooks
Sky Italia
Sky Radio Denmark
Sky Radio Germany
Sky Radio Netherlands
STAR
Zondervan                                                 CBS Corporation CBS News
CBS Sports
CBS Television Network
CNET
Showtime
TV.com
CBS Radio Inc. (130 stations)
CBS Consumer Products
CBS Outdoor
CW Network (50% ownership)
Infinity Broadcasting
Simon & Schuster (Pocket Books, Scribner)
Westwood One Radio Network                                                        Comcast NBC
Bravo
CNBC
NBC News
MSNBC
NBC Sports
NBC Television Network
Oxygen
SciFi Magazine
Syfy (Sci Fi Channel)
Telemundo
USA Network
Weather Channel
Focus Features
NBC Universal Television Distribution
NBC Universal Television Studio
Paxson Communications (partial ownership)
Hulu
Universal Parks & Resorts
Universal Pictures
Universal Studio Home Video                                                                      http://www.prisonplanet.com/7-things-about-the-mainstream-media-that-they-do-not-want-you-to-know.html
Tue, 05/21/2013 - 15:28 | Link to Comment jumbo maverick
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Freddie is that you?

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 05:40 | Link to Comment smacker
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And America's media is not alone in having close relations with its political & corporate Establishments:

In April, I was at a private party in Brazil and a TV Globo news editor executive was present (TV Globo is about the 3rd largest TV network in the world). During a conversaton I had with him, I asked what sort of relationship TV Globo had with the government of President Dilma Rousseff. To which he replied "good, very good". He obviously didn't realise that I was probing..... And that I knew Rousseff has a long relationship with Communism.

And TV Globo coverage of events in Boston were extensive but almost entirely based upon US official reports. No questions were asked about strange official anomalies.

Back in Britain, the news editor at Sky News gave evidence to the Leveson Inquiry. He made the statement that "our job is to report the news, not to make it". This is why Sky now follows the BBC in reporting official news without asking questions. If they deviate from this model, they won't get any exclusive interviews with top dogs etc or maybe their journos would have their Press ID Cards pulled from official news conferences etc.

 

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 15:58 | Link to Comment They trynna cat...
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Sorry, but the world isn't ruled by a bunch of mothballed old WASP families.

EDIT: Junk me all you want. All I know is that I'm free to stand on any street corner and shout to the hills that evil WASPs rule the world. That right there proves that they don't.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 12:37 | Link to Comment TrustWho
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Damn, the founding fathers were some smart SOBs. They used so few words to describe a system that addressed the human condition; whereas today we just blah, blah, blah......

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:15 | Link to Comment Miffed Microbio...
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In my US history class in college we were required to read many founding fathers writing in original text ( very difficult, one sentence was often a paragraph). I was simply amazed the depth they had understanding human nature and formulating the country based on their visions,they were truly awake. I'm not sure how many people today could even understand what they were saying. Probably couldn't pry them away from their iPhones. Kids today have the attention span of a gnat.

Miffed;-)

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:30 | Link to Comment duo
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and most of them were in their 30s and 40s.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:17 | Link to Comment InTheLandOfTheBlind
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poets by today's standards

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:20 | Link to Comment NidStyles
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To be fair, they actually studied history. No one here really studies history anymore, just that historiography garbage.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 16:43 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
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"you do not study the events of the past directly, but the changing interpretations of those events in the works of individual historian"

God help us!  The works of individual historians?  More important than the events of the past themselves???

"Who controls the past now, controls the future.  Who controls the present now, controls the past. Who controls the past now..."

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:45 | Link to Comment sgt_doom
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Plus, the Founding Fathers, as demonstrated by the Declaration of Independence (which few Ameritards have ever bothered to peruse) were definitely believers in criminal and governmental conspiracy, and would have vigorously attacked all those conspiracy deniers today!

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:32 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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When it comes to pointing fingers at others, 'americans' have no match.

Pointing fingers at themselves,umm, umm...

Funny how the declaration of independence pointed the King as the source of problems..

Try doing the same today when 'americanism' is the source of so many more problems...

'American' once...

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 15:59 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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AnAnonymous, displaying his eternal nature of hypocricy:

When it comes to pointing fingers at others, 'americans' have no match.

Funny how this is said by the guy perpetually pointing his stinky dung hand fingers at the occupants of his hallucinated reality that he calls 'americans'.

Waooo, people love to cling to their myth.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 16:05 | Link to Comment Jekyll_n_Hyde_Island
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I find this post deluded and inaccurate.  While I don't disagree with the author, (I fight for the diminishment of the large, centralized government and believe in the locality and participation of intimate, regional communities to establish civic leadership) I think it is poorly written.  I think the author has just enough education to make him dangerous to other people who have just enough education, which represents 65% of the idiots on this sight who mistake it for a goldbug haven.

  "The first man who, having fenced in a piece of land, said "This is mine," and found people naïve enough to believe him, that man was the true founder of civil society. From how many crimes, wars, and murders, from how many horrors and misfortunes might not any one have saved mankind, by pulling up the stakes, or filling up the ditch, and crying to his fellows: Beware of listening to this impostor; you are undone if you once forget that the fruits of the earth belong to us all, and the earth itself to nobody."  — Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Discourse on Inequality, 1754

 Put that in your pipe and smoke it, two minds.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 17:08 | Link to Comment TrustWho
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Island Man

Common property law communities also has crimes, wars and murders. Human nature produces crimes, wars and murders.

I also thought 2 minds' article was poorly written.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 17:23 | Link to Comment Jekyll_n_Hyde_Island
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Right. I'm not into the common property law hippy commune malarky either.  Rosseau was quoted to expose 2mind's end game, which oftentimes isn't considered when ejaculating such armchair pundit political diatribes

 

  My point [albeit very crypic (no longer)] is that sociopathy is indigenious to human genetic code as result of warfare to perpetuate the survival of a tribe or culture; not related to the centralization of power in government.

  History simply does not support 2mind's assertions.  The Ceasars, Saladin, Alexander, Constantine, Genghis Khan -- these men were not sociopaths, on the contrary central authority was crucial to the expansions of their kingdoms, as well as effective justice within the regions they conquered to prevent imperialistic unrest.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 12:39 | Link to Comment Smegley Wanxalot
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that pic looks like Odo from Deep Space 9.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 12:41 | Link to Comment PiltdownMan
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I love Charles Smith's musings!

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 12:42 | Link to Comment CH1
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Excellent piece.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 12:44 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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"Nothing infuriates a sociopath or a sociopathological organization more than the exposure of their sociopathology, and so those in power will stop at nothing to silence, discredit, criminalize or eliminate the heroic whistleblower."

'We the People's' Achilles Heel is that we truly don't understand what "stop at nothing" means. Since we would stop long before the sociopath we simply fail to imagine what the sociopath is capable of. Combine that with our tendency to identify with "our" leaders and we have a budding tyrannical slave state on our hands.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 12:49 | Link to Comment chunga
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You're a stud C.D.

One of quite a few ZH contributors I'd love to have a beer with.

Same goes for a lot of great commenters.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:05 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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"One of quite a few ZH contributors I'd love to have a beer with."

You would be severely disappointed. I have out-of-control ear and nose hair and my beer farts are registered as deadly weapons. :)

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:13 | Link to Comment chunga
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Me too. It's all part of being a mammal.

Since we never came up with a ZH gang symbol (paging Banzai) I'll wear my tattered ZH cap and Banzai 99% pin to show my colors if we ever meet on the other side of SHTF.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:28 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Very occasionally Mrs. Cog and I see a Zero Hedge hat floating above the crowd, but we have yet to meet a fellow ZH'er in the flesh.

<I suspect they will have a separate dorm for us at the FEMA camp, though Mrs. Cog is of the opinion that they will keep us all separated to prevent us from igniting a revolution.>

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:44 | Link to Comment insanelysane
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I get the feeling that ZH-ers prefer to "stand together" by not standing together lest a drone controlled by a rogue DHS worker hits the trigger and takes out the group.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:08 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Mrs. Cog and I actually "met" on ZH. Since our union now constitutes two ZH'ers in close proximity we feel particularly vulnerable to rogue drone attacks.

That's why we are painting a large bulls eye on the roof of our new Plan B homestead. This way the drone drivers will miss our humble abode and instead hit the innocent goats at the goat wedding party way out in the woods. :)

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:43 | Link to Comment Miffed Microbio...
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Mr C.D.

Is this really true that you met your wife on ZH? How deliciously romantic! ZH women appear to me to be wildly independent, passionate about issues, have deep convictions and a strong intestinal fortitude. Your life must be quite vibrant. At least Mr Miffed has never claimed boredom living with me.

Late this summer we have been invited to spend time with a Canadian ZHer. This does involve some serious planning on our part including hiking for several miles in grizzly bear territory. We are so excited! Well, may be I should admit I am the most excited. I do detect a bit of reticence in Mr Miffed. Perhaps it's the personal safety issue or the fact we've never made the step from virtual friendship to real. I thought we were trailblazers but, obviously, some have already tread this path. In times so dark and uncertain it seems only natural to seek out those of similar minds even if I involves a bit of risk and adventure. Is a grizzly bear threat any more frightening than a FEMA camp? Best wishes.

Miffed;-)

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:41 | Link to Comment 1C3-N1N3
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ZH gang symbol

This looks like a "Z". Left hand over right.

http://gobuccos.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Pirates-Zoltan.jpg

(edit: I'm going to make that my avatar.)

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:49 | Link to Comment sgt_doom
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Holy crap!  You must be my twin who was separated from me at birth?

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:53 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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The maternity ward nurses couldn't stand the stink from the two of us. The rest (as they say) is history. :)

<Milk farts are worse than beer farts.>

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:03 | Link to Comment Inthemix96
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Cog,

I hear where your're coming form but if a bloke like me woke up, god knows how many have woken up since I did.

And heres a thought for all you sociopaths and psycopaths out there.  You ever used a claw hammer?  Claw hammers have an unbelievably wide aray of uses, you can hammer things like nails in with them, and even pull them bent nails back out, but when you engage your mind a touch, especially when you have been fronted, they have other uses too, and sociopaths as well as psycopaths should be aware that claw hammers can be incredibly dangerous when placed in the wrong hands.

Same as post hole diggers, they are serious bits of kit them, dig a two foot hole 12" round in under a minute, and thats a manual hand operated one.

Think about it sociopaths and pyscopaths, having never (by the laws of average) had a real hard manual job, and probably having very limp wrists, as well as weak backbone, and no stamina, and pale unhealthy skin, and an over bearing sense of entitlement, and probably even getting manicures for broken cuiticles, as well as being a bit of a morally possesed coward you should be made aware that claw hammers can be daft in the wrong hands.

:-)

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:05 | Link to Comment TaxSlave
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... we have a budding tyrannical slave state on our hands.

I think we're at the blooming stage now.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:08 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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I stand corrected. The endless (tyrannical) summer is almost upon us.

On the other hand I'm always amazed how much worse it can (and often does) get. Our tolerance for self inflicted pain is beyond (dis)belief.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 16:26 | Link to Comment Future Jim
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Tyranny is here indeed.

 
Obama’s DHS Targets White Children

 

Obama’s DHS ordered new targets featuring all white people and mostly kids and women with the theme “No Hesitation.”

If Obama had a son, he wouldn’t look like these kids. [1]

Note how these targets appear to be standing on their own property. Now why would Obama’s DHS need to practice shooting white people’s kids on their own property? If the people in Obama’s DHS find themselves in these situations, then the most likely reason is that they themselves are the bad guys, and thus they should hesitate.

Obama, The Democratic Party, and the Mainstream Media have taken Their Hate to a new level.

Clearly, the DHS has decided that too few DHS personnel are the kind of sociopaths who would blindly obey orders to kill ordinary innocent Americans, so DHS needs to manufacture more such sociopaths – hence the targets.

We now know why Obama’s DHS recently made an unprecedented purchase of 1.6 billion bullets. (Now it’s  2 billion.) This is nearly 20 times larger than a normal year for DHS. Why does this include 450 million rounds hollow point .40 caliber when .40 caliber is not used by the military, when hollow points are not used for practice, when hollow points will not penetrate Kevlar, and when hollow points have always been banned from warfare because they are too barbaric. Their only purpose is therefore to murder civilians wearing bathrobes and t-shirts – just like in the targets.

We now know why Obama has always wanted our guns.

How does DHS know who to target? I guess we now know why DHS listens to every call and reads every email in America.

How does DHS know its commanders will cooperate? I guess we now know why the Obama administration has instituted a litmus test to weed out any commanders who express reluctance to fire on Americans. Given that we know Obama worries about whether he can depend on the US military to fire on Americans without hesitation, we now know why Obama wants to create his own civilian security force just as strong as the US military.

Consider that drones experience “No Hesitation.” I guess we now know the reason for the massive drone build up.

Do we need the DHS? Consider that the DHS was created in response to 9/11, and that the official explanation of 9/11 cannot be true.

Unfortunately, I have found that many people feel that such overwhelming evidence simply could not be true given the image of Obama sold to us by the media. Therefore, I have busted the Myth of Obama so that we can move forward again.

We now have overwhelming evidence that the government is trying to provoke armed conflict with the American people, and we have overwhelming evidence that such plans have greatly accelerated under Obama, and of course, the only reason to provoke armed conflict is to justify a police state – beyond what we already have.

It is critical that the targets be white because ordinary innocent white people are the main source of resistance to a police state. White people are more numerous, more spread out, more wealthy, more educated, and more concerned about the Constitution; whereas, government has already neutralized black people by keeping them poor, distracted, and dependent on government. Blacks who resist are incarcerated, shot, or ridiculed and shunned. Law enforcement is already willing to shoot black people, so DHS needs to create more sociopaths with the same lack of respect for white people. Therefore, the targets are all white.

The next question is, “Other than front men like Clinton, Bush and Obama, who are the Elites that want to create a police state – and why?”

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 16:52 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
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The targets are a pregnant mom, a little girl holding hands w/ her 4 y.o. sister,  and a 7 year old boy.

No matter the race, that those are "No Hesitation" targets is seriously fucked up.

 

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:18 | Link to Comment InTheLandOfTheBlind
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seems as if they have a slight upper hand in this category, eh?

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:20 | Link to Comment They trynna cat...
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You are exactly right. If you haven't read 1984 you should, and then listen to Jonathan Bowden's lecture on it. He explains how it demonstrates the sort of sociopathic personality embodied by Stalin and Mao. They were capable of extreme terror both because they enjoyed it and also because they were not constrained by any internal or external rules of behavior whatsoever in striving for their desired ends.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:27 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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Most people overlook the connotations of the phrase 'power corrupts'. It really doesn't corrupt, it exposes a latent nature of almost everyone. People have an innate desire to change reality into what they believe is the best way to promote their own survival. Those in power will force their survival beliefs on others and it pretty much doesn't what the beliefs are.

Except for those of us who don't think controlling others promotes our survival, but allowing others to be free does. We of the very small minority.

 

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:50 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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This.  While there is more and more literature/studies proclaiming that sociopathy is more common than previously thought, I think the effects described in the article are ambiguously caused, at best.  In other words, why do we need to proclaim everyone sociopaths when simple self interest will suffice?  If sociopathy is as common as he would have us believe, then I'm not sure it's even diagnosable...  the criteria are simply too lose to analyze.

The simple fact is that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely...  it doesn't matter who we put in the positions of power, whether it's granny, mother theresa, corky, screech, stephen hawking, hitler, or that kid we all grew up with that played with fire too much.  It all ends the same...  it's the position that corrupts, not the people. 

Of course, we end up with the same conclusion...  that the ability to coerce and manipulate others should be limited and that power structures minimized as much as possible, but the article is completely mistaken as to the cause...  it isn't sociopathy, it's the structures themselves.  Throughout history, it isn't the sociopaths who rise to power each and every time...  some are, for sure, but not all.  This article is garbage.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 16:01 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
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Sociopathy means not having a conscience.  Not having remorse, or regret, or empathy.

Its real.  And I'd wager its over 2% of the population.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 16:18 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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No doubt sociopathy exists...  undeniable.  However, I didn't deny that sociopathy exists...  (and, actually, sociopathy is more broadly defined, technically, than your definition...  although, I personally agree more with your definition, else it gets too broad to judge).

If you're only willing to accept ~2% of the population are sociopaths, then I think you disagree with not only this article, but the myriad of similar articles coming out regarding the sociopathic traits that cause every successful person to be successful.  Point being, of the "people in charge", there are an incredible amount of them that are not sociopaths...  sociopathy is something MUCH more specific...  something clinically diagnosable...  and many people are using the term synonymously with "self-interested" or "greedy"...  they ARE NOT remotely the same...  not even kissing cousins.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 16:58 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
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Personally, I don't think psycho/sociopaths are greedy or care about money.  But money is power in their eyes, and they are powerhungry.  You can never have enough, in their eyes. 

Can I just ask, though, MachoMan, who are the "people in charge"?  The gov't?  The banks?  The Fed?  Those who control the Fed?  The wealthiest 0.1%? 

As I have mentioned earlier, violent psychopaths are obviously dangerous to society.  But the biggest threat is posed by the most well adjusted sociopath, because people won't realize the threat!  The liar, the backstabber, the fraudster, the smooth corporate gangster.  Charisma.  Willing to tell people what they want to hear 100% of the time.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 17:28 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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I guess I'll posit that it is practically impossible for you to distinguish between a "well adjusted sociopath" and anyone else of high machiavelian aptitude and success...  You're creating a narrative that you can't test...  ergo, it's either nonsense or might as well be.

The people in charge are too numerous to be described as sociopaths...  even amongst the top .001% of society, you've got a cross section of intellects, personalities, and demeanors.  I think it's fair to say that because of the incentivization structures and societal framework humans utilize, that sociopaths are predisposed for success...  but the fact of the matter is that they are too few, amongst the power elite, to deserve the credit they get.

Again, the threat isn't from sociopaths...  their destructive capabilities are completely redundant to those naturally created by our institutional construct.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:56 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
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So you don't think the % of sociopathy is higher among the ruling elite, than the % of sociopathy among the general population?  Just say so  :)

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 10:44 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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I readily admit that the rate of sociopathy is likely higher among the ruling elite than the general population...  but, before we discuss that, we must first determine materiality... or the total amount of sociopaths in the ruling elite, divided by the total number of ruling elite.  My guess is that while there are proportionately more sociopaths than the general population, there are still many "normal" people in the ruling elite who perform the same acts as the sociopaths (and many who don't).  Hence why I believe the cause of the effect the author has described to be ambiguous at best.

This is simply academically lazy...  the term sociopath has been thrown around a lot lately and this article is simply jumping on the bandwagon.  The real issue is vastly more complicated...  and, ultimately, scary since it causes us all to look in the mirror.  It's in the same vein of attributing everything we don't know about the universe to "god".  "Why do people in power behave the way they do?  They must be sociopaths!"...  Just academically lazy.  In the clinical setting, a practitioner who uses this process would be described as finding everything "symptomatic" of his diagnosis.

In short, fucking people over isn't a trait unique to sociopaths.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 17:26 | Link to Comment PhilofOz
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.... and that 2% all work their way up to the top of every organisation with a pyramid like structure, no matter how big or small. This planet is fucked and it all needs to be torn down and started again.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:29 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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I prefer to think of one's ability to restrain themselves as a strength and not an Achilles' heel.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:44 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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In a gentler world I would whole heartedly agree.

However in a world of lies, deceit and treachery it is a strength only when the sociopaths have been successfully restrained....or at least contained. The wolves welcome what they consider the weak to their dinner table. That doesn't mean I advocate using their methods. It isn't actually required. Like a vampire in the noon sun the sociopaths dissipate and are disarmed when attention and awareness is focused upon them.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:06 | Link to Comment Ignatius
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Preferred weapons:  humor, derision and ridicule and exposure.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:18 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Effectively the ONLY weapon the minority sociopaths have against "us" is to turn you against me. Take that weapon away and they are powerless.

Your preferred weapons are very powerful.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:34 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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The achilles heel of every sociopath is a knowledge base.  In short, if you have a well-documented history of their comments, views, and acts, then it is very easy to completely ruin them.  Sociopaths fear the light of day as it gives them no playground for subterfuge and manipulation...  In the clinical setting, it's incredibly easy to spot with well-documented notes...  the problem is that in the real world, the ability to manipulate and endear yourself trumps our memory...  As a result, we have to keep detailed records to catch sociopaths in their lies of sweet nothings and innuendo.

While it's generally a fucking retarded show, big brother gives us quite a few insights into this type of dynamic.  What happens to the folks that come out swinging, making "game moves", wooing the cast, and manipulating people when the guy who knows the whole plan gets put up on the chopping block?  He sings like a canary and the whole thing falls to shit...  the sociopath gets exposed and eats shit.  This doesn't happen every time, but there are two distinct playstyles...  the ruthless machiavellian bunch and the "we're gonna get everything out in the open" bunch...  if the latter group knows all the goins on, then the former group never wins...  simple as that.

For the folks that are simply too smart to catch, calling them sociopaths is more akin to desperation and conjecture...  I simply call those people "smart".  It isn't until they fuck up that their true identities are revealed and the only way to properly diagnose them would be in a clinical setting.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 15:09 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
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I fight them w/ Psychological Warfare.   They have been using the same playbook for something like 200+ years.  There's no way that is going to keep working.   On the one hand, the techniques (like Divide and Conquer) are tried and true, but on the other, they are tired and predictable. 

When changing an organizational culture, the idea is to move from the status quo to a 'new state'.  Well, first you have to 'unfreeze' the current status quo.  This is achieved by a big event.  Mass layoffs (on the corporate scale), a 9/11 type event (on the national scale), assassination etc.

This is actually the key state.  Things are now fluid, and changeable.  This is when the Elite try to pass new laws (PATRIOT Act), create new powers for themselves (DHS), set new precedents (Boston SWAT going door-to-door), etc.  

Thats why engineering events (false flags, stock crashes) gives them such control, because they know when it will occur, and hence, they can prepare for the 'fluid phase' better than everyone else, who is still in shock from said event.  So that means, when the Elite mobilize their 'change agents' (after a major event) we have to be ready at that moment, to fight back (from the psychological and intellectual standpoint).

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:36 | Link to Comment hardcleareye
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Chris Hedges article, Rise Up or Die, speaks very much to this.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/page2/rise_up_or_die_20130519/

 

I have to be careful when I read his stuff, I find his work so truthfully poignant that it puts me in a funk for some time......

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:21 | Link to Comment They trynna cat...
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I liked the article until I got to the part where Hedges is bragging about visiting Mumia Abu Jamal in prison together with Cornel West. Just another clueless self-hating liberal dope.

Reminds me of the white liberal idiots back in the '60s who used to go groveling before the Black Panthers sitting on their wicker 'thrones' asking "Brother, what can we do to help your cause?" ("Juss give us yo wimminz!")

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:47 | Link to Comment sgt_doom
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Correctamundo, CD!

All one need do is to read Ellen Brown's Web of Debt, Ellen Schultz's Retirement Heist, Linda McQuaig's Billionaire's Ball, and Das' Extreme Money to fully grasp this.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:04 | Link to Comment Ignatius
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CD

Ironic in view of the current trend is that the initial architecture of the Constitution and probably the key component is the de-centralization of power.  Nice connection made by CHS that centralization favors the sociopaths.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:11 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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CHS hits it out of the ball park way more than he misses. While I don't always agree with him I commend his intellect and his prolific output. He's a better man than I and I'm extremely grateful for that.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:38 | Link to Comment Winston Smith 2009
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"'We the People's' Achilles Heel is that we truly don't understand what "stop at nothing" means. Since we would stop long before the sociopath we simply fail to imagine what the sociopath is capable of."

We the People's Achilles Heel is that far too many of The People couldn't even define sociopath let alone recognize one or care.  We have a majority of propagandized and ignorant citizens who are apparently unable to think logically and critically, instead acting in accordance with guidance from the emotional centers of their brains.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:47 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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"Mission Accomplished" - Herman Goebbels from the grave

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 15:05 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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It's always been that way...  It hasn't been too long ago that the pieces we call "works of art" were merely church propaganda...  What will cook most folks' geese is that the founding fathers displayed many "sociopathic" virtues (using the term as loosely as everyone on this thread/article).  The fact that they understood human nature so well allowed them to utilize that knowledge to succeed...

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 12:46 | Link to Comment Antifederalist
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Bravo CHS.  One of your best.  Lord Acton would be proud.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:01 | Link to Comment aleph0
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Excellent article  ... Centralization Concentrates and Corrupts Power.
Decentralize everything as much as  possible and we will have far less problems.
The EU is the latest perfect example

 

 

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:02 | Link to Comment Fuku Ben
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The Psychopathic Corporation -- A Clinical Diagnosis, by Dr. Robert Hare

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmUXp_zE14E

 

Nice checklist for corporations and governments alike

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:05 | Link to Comment shutupnsing
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So brilliant even a psycopath can deny it!

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:06 | Link to Comment Charles Wilson
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Gee, didn't Ayn Rand say something about that in The Fountainhead?  The plans were changed for the Building but no one could exactly find out who changed them.

'Cept'n now we've got REAL Power pushing back and no one will stand up to it.

CW

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:12 | Link to Comment Skin666
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This was very good Chaz! *****

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:13 | Link to Comment They trynna cat...
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What makes the sick sociopaths who comprise TPTB and their useful idiot disciples so dangerous is that not only are they driven by power and wealth, but they actually believe that they know what's best for mankind and therefore they have a moral mandate to manage our affairs for us. They've made a sick and twisted Utopian bed for mankind, and they're going to force mankind into it even if they have to saw his arms and legs off to make him fit.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:19 | Link to Comment Umh
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The sociopaths don't care what happens to society.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:24 | Link to Comment Gold N Glocks
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Kind of reminds me of a Monkey King that's presently in our midst...

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:34 | Link to Comment dolph9
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Well what you have to understand is that the people at the top of hierarchies in America, at the highest levels of the federal government and big banks and corporations, basically want a multicultural population of useful idiots who do what they are told, and if we don't do what we are told, we are banished from the utopia of diversity and infinite debt and infinite shopping and tv watching.

If enough people think for themselves, the threat is that the system itself unfolds, and nobody knows what to do in that instance, because everybody has become dependent on the system.  And people fear what would happen if a multicultural empire falls apart.  Particularly the one with the biggest military that issues the world's reserve currency.

In the words of the joker, "these civilized people will eat each other."  Or something like that.  Sounds about right.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:52 | Link to Comment They trynna cat...
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A semi-famous nationalist thinker who is no longer with us used to say that TPTB know they are working with an intellectual house of cards, and that's why they are so much more concerned with people who rebel against it intellectually than with people who rebel against it physically. That's why major newspapers will demonize some redneck on their front page for making rayciss or 'homophobic' tweets on Twitter, whereas violent urban thugs and drug dealers who kill innocent people often don't even make the local news. Reason being, they know that their intellectual control is much more fragile than their physical control, because the entire worldview they push upon us is based upon lies.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:27 | Link to Comment Winston Smith 2009
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"people at the top of hierarchies in America, at the highest levels of the federal government and big banks and corporations, basically want a multicultural population of useful idiots who do what they are told"

And that's exactly what they have in the majority.  Critical thought and reasoning are learned skills that the majority have apparently not learned.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 16:02 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
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Kids aren't taught how to think.  They are taught what to think.

Even the smart asian kids are great little calculators and parrots and able to repeat a lot of data from memory.

But to analyze?  To think critically?  They don't know what logic even is!   The media and TPTB prefer it that way, because their favorite forms of persuasion are appeal to authority, and appeal to emotion.  Facts, logic, not so much.  Ask yourself why that is.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:42 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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People at the top in 'american' societies are managers. They manage the moods and tempers of their master: WeThePeople aka the 'american' middle class.

As to diversity, nobody has done as much as 'americans' to destroy it.

The world was so much more diverse before the arrival of 'americans'

The fact that 'americans', in spite of their impressive achievements in that department, feel diversity is still too high confirms the path they want for the world.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:34 | Link to Comment NotAMathWhiz
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Now if google glass could create a little speech bubble above sociopaths or psychopaths, that would be a product I could get behind.  Let's start working on that....

https://www.google.com/glass/start/what-it-does/

I just want to be able to see these folks coming, although it's safe to assume about half of the people with a title that starts with a 'C..' fall into this category.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:36 | Link to Comment SmallerGovNow2
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Hugh, great post.  Just ordered your book on Amazon...

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:43 | Link to Comment F. Bastiat
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Hayek wrote extensively about it in "The Road to Serfdom". A particularly apropos chapter, "Why the Worst Get on Top", is online here:

http://www.savageleft.com/poli/rts-ten.html

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:48 | Link to Comment hardcleareye
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John Dean (Watergate) wrote a book some time ago called "Conservatives Without Conscience"(these days it would be called " liberals without a conscience".....), in it he included work done by Bob Altemeyer, U of Manitoba, Bob's work and findings are published and available free online, it is a study on Authoritarians and I found it a fascinating read....  supports much of what is said in the article.

http://members.shaw.ca/jeanaltemeyer/drbob/TheAuthoritarians.pdf

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 13:51 | Link to Comment Florida Joe
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Almost absolute power corrupts too.

There, summarized it for ya.

 

Thu, 05/30/2013 - 02:17 | Link to Comment GoinFawr
Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:17 | Link to Comment Encroaching Darkness
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I think part of it comes from a certain set of mental tricks that these people adopt. One of the worst is, "The end justifies the means".

Let's make affordable healthcare available to everyone. (In order to attain that end, let's enslave all the doctors, enrich the insurance companies and wrap the nation in endless red tape and taxes).

Let's encourage diversity in society. (Let's legalize all the illegals, especially since they'll vote like we want them to, and reward them with perks paid for with endless red tape and taxes).

Let's grow the economy with government spending until the private sector recovers. (Let's steal jobs and resources from the private sector by growing the public sector, with endless red tape and taxes).

If you believe the ends justify the means, then you can sell guns to drug lords in Mexico, spy on journalists and private citizens, punish your enemies and reward your friends using tax money and government information and resources. You can intrude into everyday life in a million ways, strip-search grannies in wheelchairs in airports, and seize money from private citizens who are traveling to buy at cash-only auctions. You can support fundamentalist Islamic militants who hate you (and will eventually use those weapons against you, as ambassador Chris Stevens found out), keep the opium fields in Afghanistan blooming, sell missile technology to the Chinese and kill children attending weddings and funerals with drone rockets.

And the most cruel aspect is that you never have to admit your policies are not attaining your ends; you just say, "We haven't spent ENOUGH" or taken away civil rights ENOUGH or ruined lives ENOUGH or killed innocent people ENOUGH......

Humanity is not granted by birth, it is earned by your actions .... and we truly have inhumans among us.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:21 | Link to Comment Winston Smith 2009
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If I could give your post ten up ratings, I would.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 16:04 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
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Their philosophy is "Do what thou wilt"

Straight Luciferian.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:17 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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I have seen several of this type come into my workplace as boss. One in particular was clearly insane. His outrageous blowups prompted me to call the police one time as he appeared physically threatening to a fellow employee and seemed capable of anything when he was not obyed without question.

When the Police arrived and investigated the call of possible workplace violence, the insane boss quieted down and tried to lie his way into getting the cops to leave. In the end it was judged a verbal threat not worth action. But I made my point.

This being a small town he had no idea my cousin was the chief of police. He went to headquarters to see if he could get the police to understand that I was crazy and the workplace was not a place the police were allowed to enter. He failed on both counts.

This guy was clearly the worst insane boss I have ever seen. He was promoted to head a bigger office, inside 2 years he was fired for theft of company assets. Although I was under threat of losing my job, in the end the higher ups saw that I was defendong company interests and the fellow employees in our workplace. End of story. I suffered no ill effects from taking that risk. I will NOT suffer these pricks if I have a way to fight back. Never have never will. When I was in bootcamp, some recurits are put over the rest to maintain the drill instructors control when he was not present, like in barracks. One night we gave the worst one of these recruit officers a blanket party of epic proportions. He was a bloody pulp when they finished with him. He soon stopped his bullying and threating of other recruits.

My point is, fight these fuckers, everywhere, all the time. Or else suffer their torments. You choose!

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:39 | Link to Comment Umh
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It can be a rough few years when people like that get into an organization. Usually they leave before everyone catches on to what they are, but sometimes they go out due to everyone catching on to them and their sometime illegal actions.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:17 | Link to Comment Winston Smith 2009
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"If there is any lesson to be drawn from Iraq, it is how a single sociopath can completely undermine and destroy civil society by empowering secondary sociopaths and eliminating or marginalizing anyone who dares to cling to their humanity, conscience and independence."

A policy now continued by an army of sociopaths within their horribly corrupt "democratically elected" government.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:47 | Link to Comment samsara
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I would say, 

A sociopath, His Son, His Grandson....  Maybe starting before Prescott and the other Nazi supporters.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:23 | Link to Comment Hacksaw
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I've been critical of some of CHS's pieces but, I have to give him kudos on this one. Charlie finally hit the nail on the head, job well done.

The answer IS decentralization, government, health care, education, and business all suffer from the scourge of centralization. If enough of us overlook our differences, stand up, and discredit the policies of the Reagans, Thatchers, Clintons, Bushes, and Obamas of the world we might actually have a chance to fix this God awful mess.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:27 | Link to Comment decentralizedsc...
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There's no way to control a monster once it's grown.  Limits must be built into their DNA at conception. Here's how: 

28th Amendment (The Constitutional Emergency Amendment)

    Corporations are not persons and shall be granted only those rights and privileges that Congress deems necessary for the well-being of the People. Congress shall provide legislation defining the terms and conditions of corporate charters according to their purpose; which shall include, but are not limited to:
    1, prohibitions against any corporation;
    a, owning another corporation,
    b, becoming economically indispensable or monopolistic, or
    c, otherwise distorting the general economy;
    2, prohibitions against any form of intervention in the affairs of government by means of;
    a, congressional lobbying
    b, electoral sponsorship or advocacy
    c, educational sponsorship or publication
    d, media news reporting
    3, provisions for;
    a, the auditing of standardized, current, and transparent account books
    b, closing the FRB and the establishment of state-owned banks
    c, civil and criminal penalties to be suffered by corporate executives et al for violation of the terms of a corporate charter.

Optional: (or possible 29th amendment)

    The 16th Amendment to the United States Constitution is hereby repealed and Congress shall re-write the U.S. Code to reflect the changes embodied herein.

     

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:38 | Link to Comment Hacksaw
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Now that's what I'm talking about.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:30 | Link to Comment Hail Spode
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The book "Localism, A Philosophy of Government" has a section called "Corporate Persons".   It is not that long, but it makes the case that no corporation should be able to own another, which I noticed was 1a on your list.  http://localismaphilosophyofgovernment.blogspot.com/2013/02/virtue-capitalism-and-corporations.html

 

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:48 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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Another good piece by this 'american' propagandist.

Back in the 18 th century, 'americans' never grew weary of ranting against the exercise of personal power and pushed for an institutionalization of power, to escape the arbitrariness of the King etc

And puuffff, 236 years later, they are ranting against institutionalized power.

The lack of contemplation is once against typical to 'americans'

It does not even refer to history outside the 'american' realm. But simply to remember what they 'americans' ranted against at their origins.

One can guess you never know how duplicitous a human being can be until you've met an 'american'.

'Americans' have pushed like nobody for their institutional exercise of power. And this gives you this 'american' propagandist.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:54 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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That 'american' propagandist keeps going with his distorted 'american' history.

Decentralization of power is what gave birth to the US, the first 'american' nation to come to flatter humanity.

There were de fact two authorities in action: the authority the King exerted in his main territory and the authority that was exerted in the american colonies.

The power was decentralized. The King came into conflict with the burgeoning middle class as there were diverging principles.

The middle class was eager of expanding on Indian territories, denying the Indians' right to property. The King was not favourable. And showed a deeper respect to the right to property than the soon to become US.
The middle class forced slavery into the colonies while the King never re allowed the practice of slavery on his main territory.

When it comes to the US, it is the failure to centralize authority as the King never managed to get his colonies to converge with his territory's standards.

And that gave birth to the US, the mecca of 'americanism' on Earth.

That 'american' propagandist, in his urge to seduce his 'american' audience is off as 'americans' know how to be.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 14:56 | Link to Comment 0b1knob
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"silence, discredit, criminalize or eliminate the heroic whistleblower."

 

Remember Comerce secretary Ron Brown?   He got "retired" into a montain at 300 mph shortly after telling Clinton that if he went down he was taking Clinton down too?  Some of the people involved in the current scandals will soon suffer unfortunate turns of events.

Because its the CHICAGO way.

 

http://movieclips.com/6Jb8-the-untouchables-movie-the-chicago-way/

 

 

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 15:55 | Link to Comment Encroaching Darkness
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The book "Ron Brown's Body" tells you more than you want to know about the corruption, cronyism and criminality of the Clinton crew.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 15:04 | Link to Comment falak pema
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its called empire; get over all the fancy words. History is simple enuff.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 15:34 | Link to Comment kevinearick
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Military Law

Military Law, self-discipline in a common goal, is just common sense manners required to ensure reciprocal investment between generations, among participants. As with labor, capital defines military in civil law to its own end, to protect and grow non-performing assets with easily exploitable resources in a robot demographic social insurance policy, until it can’t.

Why would you subject the source of wealth to the insanity of civil law, backed by force, and not expect tyranny of the majority?

Under civil law, the majority replicates behavior from birth, accepting the false assumptions belying it and ensures continuation of the empire status quo, replication of its history. Assuming government assurance, social compliance in return for social insurance, its participants believe they are ‘freed’ from direct responsibility. They then test themselves and find that empire behavior is inescapable.

They pool their deficit behaviors and expect a surplus, prosperity, because there is always another credit on the bank card. The magic of scale economic gravity increasingly constrains the independent family budget to unleash the corporate family budget, and life is all about joining a body politic to direct the distribution of credit, which “suddenly” becomes the majority’s debt when the ponzi time delay mechanism collapses.

When you go to sea, one of the first things you learn is that distance is relative to how you measure it. If you measure in miles you lose every time, because of natural current. You work against the current, and, relative to others, fall behind, increasing your distance into irrelevancy. The space and nuclear programs failed by design, creating all kinds of make-work.

If you want to provide your children and grandchildren with an option on the future, and maximize your own NPV in the process, neither civil family law nor capping its participants in the head is the solution. Either way, your DNA goes to the garbage disposal, to be switched on at the convenience of nature, which has outlasted every irrational market in History.

Empires delay bad outcomes with penalties and interest shifted off-sheet, until their currency, the ability to delay, is all that remains, which works out just fine for you, if you do not put off to tomorrow what may be done today. The empire wants you to wait for Jesus. Prepare to be successful instead.

Corporations do not spend a disproportionate amount of time advertizing false values, branding, by accident. Who cares what P&G does with the money, Tide is a great product. If you calculate NPV in dollar terms you can only lose, but you have the consolation of losing last. A well-paying job with mortgages growing faster than your income, dependent upon negative real interest rates for a wealth effect to draw in more fools, does not necessarily make you smarter than a homeless person with no empire assets.

A house is a commodity, but a homemaker is precious, so the empire must inflate the price of the house and de-value the homemaker to plunder the independent family. Labor doesn’t go to war over the price of a house, or the oil to maintain it, neither of which is integral.

Move the source of propulsion and the empire is left entertaining itself. Capital is paying the majority with debt guaranteed by the unborn to enforce trade routes through its gates, in a collapsing scale economy, distilling out navigators. That is what you are looking at.

Military law does not appear to subject itself to civil law by accident. Civil law proffers freedom with explicit rights, and delivers slave labor implicitly. Military law employs discipline accordingly. The US Navy appears to be a military organization, but the slightest scratch on its surface reveals a civil administration. HR compliance is the cohesive.

Microsoft, Boeing and Gates Foundation would not be growing in the bottom of the garbage disposal if US Navy were a military organization. Timing, timing. timing; capital and majority are always timed into the past, and, left to their own devices, will navigate into the dead zone every time. If you want to go to the future, build the bridge yourself, and you will see others implicitly doing the same. Respect is the cohesive.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 16:46 | Link to Comment kchrisc
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Wonderful comment on a great article, but let's be clear: There is NO plan, there is NO goal, there is only theft and murder--they are criminals in collusion

These people, the pols, crats and their bankster masters, live off our back like we are their personal stock farm animals. In doing so they undermine our productive capacity which forces them to "work" us harder. When the "system" finally collapses and/or we are no longer of use to them they round us up and fence us in with physical fences. Behind physical fences they then will commence to relieve us of our remaining wealth, if any, and ultimately our lives.

The time has come to:

The Four Rs: Rejection, Revolution, Retribution, Restoration

Reject them, Revolt against them, Retribute them, Restore the Constitutional republic without them           hujel

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 16:01 | Link to Comment Future Jim
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 "The solution: a culture of decentralization, transparency and open competition, what I call the DATA model (Decentralized, Adaptive, Transparent and Accountable) in my book Why Things Are Falling Apart and What We Can Do About It."

 

We Already Know The Solution

 

We’ve always had enough information to know what to do:

We know what to do, so why aren’t we doing it? History has been consistent, so why does our “progressive” government keep doubling down on the failed policies of the past?

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 17:33 | Link to Comment Peterus
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You may "know this". Average person after public school and watching MSM thinks that it is compassionate to have a huge machine of violance that systematically robs everybody around and uses some of treasure to fund "good things".

Also, all the people that are pulling the machine or sitting inside it have their livelihood fully dependant on it. An average citizen gets all of his income from ... lets say selling his labor as an accountant (or whatever else) and than looses part of it to the machine. He is infested with dogmatic slavery towards it and discounts his own loss. On the other hand beaurocrat has all the income from the system and learned to glorify it. With forces aligned like this... how can it end? After the moment when total apprehension to new taxation is eroded lower than the total dependancy multiplied by far more intense zeal - it will just go downhill fast. Cut the spending? There is going to be blood on the streets. Slash it just a little by a long period? How can you have more resolve in this, than teachers, beaurocrats, unions, etc that are losing their income and having their (now useless after so much demoralization) asses kicked on the street?

Though maybe, just maybe, after south Europe, Japan and USA go down in flames enough people connects the dots and we won't have an age of tyranny after the coming crisis is over.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:09 | Link to Comment Future Jim
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Yes. The perverse incentives created by government will likely keep us locked on a path towards huge conflict.

Before, during, and especially after such a conflict, everyone will want an explanation or at least want to know who to blame, and by then it will be too late to educate them; therefore, we need to educate them now in a simple coherent narrative.

The Obama narrative contradicts all the facts, but it is the only narrative that most people know.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 16:15 | Link to Comment Carmagnole
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Great piece.

Bookmarked, to serve as useful debunking tool to the statist apologists infesting the interwebs these days.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 16:17 | Link to Comment auntiesocial
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No morals, all about money, power and more money, hoes and blow. 

And what are my bad qualities?

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 16:31 | Link to Comment warezdog
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GREAT ARTICLE!! And to think I almost glanced it over thinking it was another crappy Simon article, sooooooo glad I gave it a second chance and a full read. Goint to have to buy the book now too, masterful, intriquing, and brilliant!

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 16:36 | Link to Comment csodak
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"It is very difficult for many people to fathom that there are people in our society that are that evil, for lack of a better term, and it is even harder for many people in society to accept that people in the higher strata of our society can exhibit these dangerous traits."

"well...there it is"

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 16:45 | Link to Comment smacker
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"Corruption and psychopathy go hand in hand."

Yes they do, and also add criminality.

The reason is that psychopaths believe emphatically that they are above the law and it does not apply to them.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 17:41 | Link to Comment Peterus
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Psychopath has no empathy. He just feels no compassion and this frequently drives him toward evil deeds. Especially when it is evil that pays off (in peaceful community crime is just a bad business for the loosers, in demoralized one only suckers act moraly). But this is psychological condition. You may well have no empathy, belive you are not better at all, but act badly just because you can. You may know it is a scam and it applies only to those that you make it apply to, withot some kind of superiority complex.

There are also tons of psychologically "normal" people that do horrible stuff. Though their concience stings, or they have to first dehumanize their victims in their minds.

I would love for liberty people to start using these accurately. Psychopath, sociopath and just a person that does evil in a situation that favors it.

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 18:10 | Link to Comment smacker
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I don't think that everybody who occasionally does bad or evil things is automatically a psychopath. I believe a psychopath gets defined as one when he ticks most or many of the relevant boxes, which is why to get an accurate diagnosis one usually needs a professionally trained analyst.

Prof Hare is world renowned for having identified and defined psychopathy and he produced a clinical checklist: http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-3405700188.html . More here: http://www.hare.org/

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 17:03 | Link to Comment Hail Spode
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"The key tennant of localism is the decentralization of government and political power." - Localism, a Philosophy of Government

http://localismaphilosophyofgovernment.blogspot.com/2013/04/why-i-am-localist.html

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 17:16 | Link to Comment dizzyfingers
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Guill - O - tines.

 

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 21:28 | Link to Comment deepsouthdoug
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"On rare occasions, an insider has the courage and talent to secure documentation that details the sociopathology of a policy, agency or administration (for example, Daniel Ellsberg and The Pentagon Papers)."

 

Rare occasions indeed - that was more than 40 years ago!

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