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Eric Holder Admits To First Americans Killed By Drone Strikes

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In a letter to Congress (below), AG Eric Holder admitted that the administration deliberately killed American Anwar al-Awlaki (the radical Muslim cleric) in a drone strike in September 2011 adding, as the NY Times reports, "the decision to target Anwar al-Awlaki was lawful, it was considered, and it was just." As RT notes, there was collateral damage, as it has been widely reported but rarely acknowledged in Washington that two other US citizens - Samir Khan, and al-Awlaki's teenage son, Abdulrahman al-Awlaki - were executed in that same Yemen strike. With Holder’s latest admission, however, a fourth American - Jude Mohammed - has also been officially named a casualty of America’s continuing drone war; bringing the total 'known' Americans killed under the US Drone War to 4 since 2009.

Via NY Times,

One day before President Obama is due to deliver a major speech on national security, his administration on Wednesday formally acknowledged that the United States had killed four American citizens in drone strikes in Yemen and Pakistan.




The American responsibility for Mr. Awlaki’s death has been widely reported, but the administration had until now refused to confirm or deny it.

The letter also said that the United States had killed three other Americans: Samir Khan, who was killed in the same strike; Mr. Awlaki’s son Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, who was also killed in Yemen; and Jude Mohammed, who was killed in a strike in Pakistan.




According to former acquaintances of Mr. Mohammed in North Carolina, he
appears to have been killed in a November 2011 drone strike in South
Waziristan, in Pakistan’s tribal area. Mr. Mohammed’s wife, whom he had
met and married in Pakistan, subsequently called his mother in North
Carolina to tell her of his death, the friends say.




These individuals were not specifically targeted by the United States,” Mr. Holder wrote



Via Russia Today,

“The administration is determined to continue these extensive outreach efforts to communicate with the American people,” continued Holder. “To this end, the president has directed me to disclose certain information that until now has been properly classified..."




As part of the vaguely defined ‘War on Terror,’ the US has reportedly waged drone strikes outside of Afghanistan where the Taliban once harbored al-Qaeda. In recent years, those strikes have targeted towns in neighboring Pakistan, as well as Yemen, Somalia and perhaps elsewhere.


But despite growing criticism over escalating use of drones, the president and his office has remained adamant about defending the operations. It’s “important for everybody to understand that this thing is kept on a very tight leash,” Obama said last January, adding that his administration does not conduct "a whole bunch of strikes willy-nilly.”

Full AG Letter:


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Wed, 05/22/2013 - 18:08 | 3589549 slaughterer
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Can we impeach him yet?  

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 18:09 | 3589552 Bastiat
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Almost seems like he's asking for it.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 18:12 | 3589568 Cursive
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Would Goebbels have been impeached?  Beria?

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 18:14 | 3589576 ACP
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No post on the Woolwich terror attack?


'We swear by almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you': What man holding bloody cleaver said after 'hacking soldier in Help For Heroes T-shirt to death just yards from Woolwich barracks'

Pretty coincidental to the riots in Sweden.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 18:19 | 3589595 McMolotov
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If that had been Texas, the headline would have read:

"Man Brandishing Meat Cleaver Shot Dead By 12 Bystanders."

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 18:43 | 3589676 gmrpeabody
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While I'm not shedding too many tears for Alla Walla Kolalli and company, I do wish Mr. Holder and company might accidently let lose one on themselves eventually.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 19:02 | 3589738 DeadFred
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Benghazigate, APgate and IRSgate are all heating up and the place holder guy reminds us "We can kill you if we want". Probably just a random coincidence.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 19:29 | 3589812 Manthong
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it gets to be a bitch when you have to disclose evil in policy

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 19:47 | 3589842 AlaricBalth
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I'm wondering how many times POTUS's name comes up when the National Counterterrorism Center run their models in the disposition matrix to determine who is a clear and present danger to the security of the US.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:04 | 3589879 James_Cole
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Hey Tyler, this is factually incorrect: As RT notes, there was collateral damage, as it has been widely reported but rarely acknowledged in Washington that two other US citizens - Samir Khan, and al-Awlaki's teenage son, Abdulrahman al-Awlaki - were executed in that same Yemen strike.

>> Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was killed in a SEPARATE strike. Very key difference. <<


There was has never been an explanation for why Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was targeted and there still isn't, he was not collateral damage in the strike that killed his father, the son was killed later. 



"After Abdulrahman heard the news of Anwar’s death, he called home for the first time and spoke to his mother and grandmother. “That’s enough, Abdulrahman. You have to come back,” his grandmother Saleha told him. “That’s it.” 


He and his cousins had joined a group of friends outdoors to barbecue. There were a few other people doing the same nearby. It was about 9 pm when the drones pierced the night sky. Moments later, Abdulrahman was dead. So, too, were several other teenage members of his family, including Abdulrahman’s 17-year-old cousin Ahmed"


Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:05 | 3589911 Slewburger
Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:23 | 3589966 Meat Hammer
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Holder admittedly violated American citizens' right to due process.  It should be an open and shut impeachment...

And Bernanke shouldn't counterfeit money...

And if my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle...

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:15 | 3590035 James_Cole
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It's amazing (-ly depressing) how many people on the NYT comments section support these drone strikes, even more so in these specific cases. 

Don't even bother asking who the people hit were or why they were hit. Just assume .gov hit the bad guys for the right reasons and who needs due process anyway?


Obama admin targeting American teenagers with no known involvement in terrorism? A-ok. All in the name of fighting the good fight!

Your fellow citizens, probably not all they're cracked up to be:



Thu, 05/23/2013 - 15:45 | 3593347 NihilistZero
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At least you can get a conservative to question his double-think by arguing principals.  Liberal mainstream Obama voters have no principal other than "Support Dear Leader!" and "Progressive Government is Great!"  NYT readers are Liberal/Facist boot lickers of the first degree.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 23:09 | 3590608 Papasmurf
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I see your willy-nilly, and raise you a silly willy.

Do you miss slick willie yet?

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 00:41 | 3590847 RichardP
Wed, 05/22/2013 - 18:48 | 3589694 Relentless
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Apparently the UK police shot two men - hopefully not for wearing puffer jackets.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 13:07 | 3592601 detached.amusement
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anyone else see the piss poor edit job they did to make the guy's hands look red?

oh, and in england the video that contain the unedited stuff has already been blocked.


not bloody:

and you can still see the edit-box around the cleaver:


all this technology and they cant even hire someone with competent editing skills.

you can even see the blurriness around his hands in the doctored one.  its pretty bad.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 19:07 | 3589755 TheObsoleteMan
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You Texans and your bullshit bravado; an attack WORSE than that happened in Texas {remember Ft.Hood?} and the attacker is alive and well. Hasn't even been court marshaled yet. So much for Texas machismo.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 19:10 | 3589763 outofideas
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To be fair, the soldiers at Ft Hood where not allowed to carry guns, unlike most Texans.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 19:12 | 3589772 NotApplicable
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Well, it was on an Army base (federal property), so there weren't any gunslingers around.

Interestingly enough, the guy has been paid $278k in salary since the shooting.


Wed, 05/22/2013 - 19:12 | 3589773 ACP
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Wrong. That was on a military base, where firearms are tightly controlled.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 19:14 | 3589780 McMolotov
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A) I'm not a Texan.

B) Ft. Hood, although a military base, is a gun-free zone:


Wed, 05/22/2013 - 19:34 | 3589826 Hobbleknee
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Makes perfect sense in Bizaro World.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:36 | 3590017 sun tzu
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That's because 0bozo the Clown is in commander in chief of the military, which is trying the case since it happened in a gun free zone on a federal army base. I didn't think anyone on ZH could be as stupid as you, but I was wrong.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 18:34 | 3589647 john39
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What a shock, ramping up the false flag events before they push for yet another evil war in the ME.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 18:35 | 3589650 fonzannoon
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That is the first thing that has happened in a while that I am pretty sure was not false. Just listen to the interview with meat cleaver guy. That shit was real.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 18:42 | 3589675 john39
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its already causing violence in the area... and fomenting more hate.  who benefits?  what is the british government pushing for? 

not saying that the guy with the cleaver didn't behead someone... what i am saying is that he is probably a drug addled meat puppet who had a handler tell him just what to do...


Wed, 05/22/2013 - 18:49 | 3589697 john39
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here is one example... 'anti-muslim' groups calling for "feet on the ground" in the area tonight...


this entire event smells centrally planned...  to increase hate, get the public in a war mood (blood lust); more police state.... less rights...    btw, Syria is about to break into all out war as the government is defeating the foreign mercs...  so cue NATO and the British government calling for arming the rebels (who would be exactly like the guy with cleaver in mentality), and a broader war...  it is all tied together.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 19:00 | 3589730 Cathartes Aura
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heading into an eclipsed full moon weekend, with a patriotic "Memorial Day" monday folks, pay attention.

upvoted you john39, because you're still able to see a wider picture, and haven't succumbed to taking an artificial "side" - wide angle lens people, don't get stuck in the muck. . .

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 19:06 | 3589751 john39
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indeed... i don't expect many upvotes on this topic...  people are hard wired it seems to fall for the events that set up for them...  911 was a classic example...  the MSM was telling us within the hour that it was osama and the muslims.   almost no one questioned the party line, and as a result, millions dead, most of them innocent people... wars around the world, total destruction of the constitution in the U.S., and on it goes...  wake up people, its getting pretty late, and something huge is lurking.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 19:41 | 3589836 nmewn
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So, you're saying Mr. Meat CleaverMan is a false flag?

A homicide, in broad daylight, filmed, making "his religious/political statement" afterwards to the world.

Is everything a fucking false flag with you people?

Burning down libraries in Timbuktu, naw, false flag. Destroying buddhist artifacts in Afghanistan, nope, false flag. Executions at soccer stadiums, family fun night?...naw, false flag.

Its incredible.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 19:51 | 3589858 Cathartes Aura
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consider that the "cleverman" is fallout for a lifetime's policies used on other'd peoples - whether he has a backstory, or is acting "on his own" it's the RE-action of authorities that bears watching. . .@ 17:35,

‘In response to the Woolwich incident, Conbra is being convened. Tom Newton Dunn, The Sun’s political editor, is also reporting that the Met are treating this as a terrorist incident. This means that the terrorism issue, which has dropped down the political agenda in the last few years, will again become a big part of our politics.’

consider that enough ticking time-bombs embedded in a system bent on self-destruction will inevitably see one go off.

Problem, Reaction, Solution - old as dirt.


Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:04 | 3589899 nmewn
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"consider that the "cleverman" is fallout for a lifetime's policies used on other'd peoples"

Thats pretty much what Meat Cleaver Man said and what lifetime of policies? He doesn't look a day over thirty to me. He's obviously African descent so where would "his people" be under assault from the British government?

Rhodesia?...nope. Kenya?...nope. Where?

So, it is religious, just as Meat Cleaver Man also says.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:20 | 3589957 john39
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911 happened in broad daylight as well. So what? Goverenment controlled murder and terrorism is old news, or should be to anyone paying attention.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:09 | 3590156 Cathartes Aura
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by your logic, you should only be interested in those national policies that happened since you were born.

no need to worry over anything historical, anything that might be part of your "national identity" - no flags waving, no memories of family droned, bombed, incarcerated, abused, etc.

the British have a long history of colonisation, who knows in what way this has affected this man's family.

I'm in no way defending his actions, but seriously, these threads are filled daily with lamentations that reference history - it works both ways, and those being occupied now may have some survivors with family stories, going forward. . .

it's often called blowback.

Speaking in a British accent, the man said: ". . You think David Cameron is going to get caught in the street when we start bussin' our guns? You think politicians are going to die? No it's going to be the average guy, like you, and your children. So get rid of them. Tell them to bring our troops back so you can all live in peace."

whatever his "origins" from the news reported so far, he appears to be British.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:19 | 3590185 nmewn
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"by your logic, you should only be interested in those national policies that happened since you were born."

You set the parameters...you said lifetime, meaning his lifetime.

My ancestors were brutalized by yankees but I don't run down pasty skinned Michiganders on the sidewalk in my car and hack them to death with a meat cleaver while being filmed by my buddy.

That takes a special kind of hatred...one that will eat you from the inside out if let it.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:36 | 3590239 Cathartes Aura
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I'll pass on the distracting, wild side arguments tonight.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 22:16 | 3590413 Ima anal sphincter
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Never heard of the story until about 10 mins ago. As soon as it came on the boob-tube, I was up and out of the room. MSN.... ALL BULLSHIT!!!!

This "incident"...... BULLSHIT!!!!!

Stop eating their crap.... you'll be healthier for it.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 19:05 | 3589749 DeadFred
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Nasty dictator turning the tide and routing rebels leading to Western intervention. Where have I seen that plot line?

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 18:52 | 3589707 gmrpeabody
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Now that's a legitimate defense if ever I've heard one... <sarc>

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 18:44 | 3589681 NotApplicable
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Remember, in a false-flag attack, the events aren't false, but the "flag" is.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 18:47 | 3589693 fonzannoon
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"I'm sorry you people had to see this. Our people see it everyday. Get your people out of our country. Your government does not care about you"


Wed, 05/22/2013 - 19:00 | 3589729 Ness.
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Since local police aren't allowed to carry firearms it took over 20 minutes for the nearest 'armed' police to arrive and eventually shoot the perps.

You can't make this shit up.

"They took 20 minutes to arrive, the police – the armed response."


"It was strange, they didn't run off, they just stood there as if they were waiting for the police.

"It must've taken about 20 minutes for the police to arrive, I think it must've been because they were waiting for armed police.



Wed, 05/22/2013 - 19:06 | 3589754 ACP
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They stood there waiting for police because that's what sheep do.

"The government will take care of this."

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 19:14 | 3589784 NotApplicable
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Well, it's not strange if these guys were programmed by some intelligence agency.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 19:04 | 3589744 Cathartes Aura
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sounds like a clear statement fonz - irrespective of his actions, how would it be different if someone in amrka committed a similar action, as is mentioned daily here?  how is this different to calls for "removing immigrants" in amrka?

"our people see it everyday" - do you doubt anything he is saying?

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 19:39 | 3589832 fonzannoon
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I think that guy was an example of someone with nothing to lose and actually was able to vocalize himself in the process. Nothing about that seemed false to me.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 19:59 | 3589877 Cathartes Aura
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all I'm suggesting is that perhaps his statements can be taken at face value, and in his mind he's acting in a loyal way - whether loyal to a "god" or a "nationstate" - he's identified with something, and sees another thing as an enemy.

it's a really popular way to be in the world lately.

but then, there's always a more complicated viewpoint, involving more sophisticated mind control. . . so many ways to approach what at first seems simple.

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