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Goldman: "Our View Is That Tapering Is Announced At The December FOMC Meeting"

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And yet another post-mortem opinion, this time from the man who meets every month or so with Goldman's the NYFed's Bill Dudley at the Pound and Pence in FiDi: that of Goldman's Jan Hatzius.

The most notable statement made by Bernanke during the Q&A session was that the FOMC could potentially cut the pace of QE purchases "in the next few meetings," although this was predicated on a continued improvement in the outlook for the economy and confidence in the sustainability of that improvement. He also stated that the purchase pace will depend on incoming data and that the FOMC could either raise or lower the pace of purchases in the future. Our view continues to be that the December meeting and subsequent press conference is the most likely time that the Committee would announce QE tapering, although September is a possibility if the economy picks up more than we expect in coming months.

 

2. On the strategy for winding down the Fed's portfolio, Bernanke noted that the Fed could exit without selling securities (in contrast to the June 2011 exit principles which prescribed asset sales), consistent with the recent trend in Fed communication on this topic.

 

3. Bernanke's prepared remarks were very much in line with recent communications from the Fed leadership. He acknowledged the gradual improvement in the labor market, but stressed that the labor market remains weak and allocated a considerable amount of time to discussing fiscal drag. Bernanke reiterated an argument which he has made in the past, that raising interest rates prematurely could choke off the recovery, ultimately resulting in a longer period of low interest rates.

But... but... Hilsenrath just said attempting to predict the tapering, pardon, the slow down of $80 billion in monthly flow is futile and meaningless!? (incidentally we think it will be September: just after the Bernanke-free Jackson Hole meeting and right around the time the US debt ceiling is hiked again, following much theatrical kicking and screaming from all sides).

Or is this just another "distract with BS" script, while the oligarchy continues to quietly convert paper assets that have never been more expensive into oh so very cheap real ones?

 

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Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:34 | 3588305 Cognitive Dissonance
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The last time I got this good a hum job was when.........nevermind. :)

<All the Fed and its various talking heads have left in their tool bin is the verbal BJ.>

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:41 | 3588346 Headbanger
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Oh please do tell, do tell!

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:47 | 3588379 knukles
Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:53 | 3588409 Manthong
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I'm dreaming of a Green Christmas.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:57 | 3588426 NotApplicable
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And the herd continues to scatter, reacting to one head-fake after another.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:42 | 3588351 King_of_simpletons
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Who cares...QE3 will taper off and Feds start QE4.

Talk of tapering off is BS.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 13:43 | 3588595 GoldenDragon
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Of course, there will never be a tapering off until the US Dollar comes to an end.

The Fed is purchasing 85B per month.  You can be sure by year end it will be more ... much more.   I think it will be at least $120B per month by the time we get into 2014.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:43 | 3588361 old naughty
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No change until Ben departs...

Squid's in the know. He's covered.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:44 | 3588366 Village Smithy
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Yes I know what you mean. The 1-900 thing works for awhile but soon it just doesn't do it for ya anymore.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:56 | 3588422 dracos_ghost
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People don't realize this is the tapering they're talking about:

http://www.edenfantasys.com/anal-toys/anal-probes/tapered-ruby-butt-plug

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:37 | 3588308 Shizzmoney
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I still won't think they will ever stop printing....there maybe a "pause" for it, but the minute they even think about stopping = market chaos.

2015 is my end date for the current bubble.  Sovereign bonds will be what tirggers it.  2014 will be the "2006-2007" in the sense that is when the MSM will finally realize that the economy sold to them with the DJIA gains was all mirrors.

Ironically, an economist I follow on Twitter  from UM says that he doesn't get why Ben Bernanke loves Abenomics, but doesn't practice them.  Don't worry, buddy: once the market sells off 25%, Abenomics (aka the M4Carbine Money Printer) will be the only action left to "save" the market.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:35 | 3588313 gatorengineer
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Todays news, presses full speed ahead and the market responds with

Stocks - up check

dollar up ???????

gold down??????????

Oil down????????

10 year rate through the roof??????????????

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:39 | 3588332 Cognitive Dissonance
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The market algos don't know what to make of the latest Fed rat poision left in the closet.

<You try it. No, you try it. I'm not going to try it. Let Mikey try it. He eats everything.>

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:49 | 3588396 knukles
Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:35 | 3588314 Stoploss
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LOL!!

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:40 | 3588320 Cacete de Ouro
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Goldman strategists get paid gazillions to look at a calendar?

"Here, pass that calendar would ya? I'm gonna be rich I tell ya"

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:37 | 3588324 Carl LaFong
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"What a load of commie bull." Gen Buck Turgeson, Dr. Strangelove

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:38 | 3588329 The Thunder Child
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More bullshit...ignore it.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:38 | 3588330 fonzannoon
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Fuck you Goldman you fed cocksuckers. I would like to dream right now that the bond market is overwhelming the fed but the financial system as we know it is not ready to blow it's brains out.

 

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:39 | 3588338 Stoploss
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Oh, and hitting the crack pipe and playing around with formula's with no understanding of the physics behind them, is not refereed to as MATH.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:41 | 3588343 debtor of last ...
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Extend & pretend. Just like Europe. Deja vu time until they have to double the $85 billion.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:41 | 3588344 Headbanger
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Translation:   PUT YOUR HEAD BETWEEN YOUR LEGS

AND KISS YOUR ASS GOD BYE!

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:46 | 3588374 Bastiat
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I can still touch my toes--that will have to do.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:43 | 3588356 mayhem_korner
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GS is milking the bubble...making sure it doesn't inflate too fast.  Hantzius office might be like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glSN4qvjt2E

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 13:05 | 3588455 disabledvet
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That is Goldman Sach's job. How's the dollar doing?

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:43 | 3588357 spaceduck
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Can i say, fuck you goldman!

Your views on many things are most of the time wrong, and as being one of (maybe the most) powerful multinational banks of the world, i really don't understand if use to say bullshits purposely or they are just not as good as they should.

Anyway, this damn QE tapering must be announced in the focm of today, this is MY view.

And Good Luck

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:43 | 3588360 MFLTucson
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4 years of money printing and thye economy is on a banna skin and the next few months it could pick up?  lol!  What a crock of Bull.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:44 | 3588364 Dr. Engali
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What a load of bunk. Why in the hell would the announce any tapering a month before the Bernank is headed out the door?

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:46 | 3588377 ParkAveFlasher
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Maybe they are insinuating that they will install a non-taperer in Ben's stead.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 13:24 | 3588536 ekm
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That is exactly what it is, sooner rather than later.

He may even resign in advance, let's say august, due 'health issues' which is not far from the truth, seeing how he shakes when interviewed.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 13:20 | 3588517 ekm
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Nobody cares about Bernanke. 

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 13:34 | 3588565 Dr. Engali
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I disagree. The Bernank has done a good job carrying the water  for them. They will either give a reason for markets to fall apart like a false flag or they will pin it on the next guy. The Bernank will be rewarded for his service to TPTB.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 14:12 | 3588723 Village Smithy
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Generations of Bernankes will be rewarded for his service to TPTB.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:45 | 3588372 Bastiat
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The financial PTB are getting a bit hysterical.  I think they are feeling a little pressure from PM delivery demands. God knows what derivatives are at risk behind the PM prices.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 13:21 | 3588521 ekm
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it's all about swap losses.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 13:41 | 3588589 Bastiat
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Which swaps are you thinking of?

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:46 | 3588376 Village Smithy
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In other words "We need to off load some soon to be rapidly depreciating equities and bonds, so load up muppets while we top tick."

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 13:19 | 3588515 ekm
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Correct.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:47 | 3588386 Bastiat
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Goldman:  muppets being set up for the transrectal cardiectomy.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:51 | 3588401 ParkAveFlasher
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+1 for technical jargon.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:49 | 3588394 CrashisOptimistic
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The Japanese currency move is hitting US Ts.  Ben can't like this, but he dares not criticize them.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 13:06 | 3588462 fonzannoon
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really the japanese currency move is hitting US T"?

So I have not been wrong?

Nice revelation.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 13:50 | 3588628 Panafrican Funk...
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Man, it's going to be funny when stocks AND bonds crash.  I guess when two gigantic asset classes are traditionally negatively correlated, and you engage in a scheme to pump both up, there will be natural consequences.  

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:49 | 3588395 The Proletariat
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..."Bernanke reiterated an argument which he has made in the past, that raising interest rates prematurely could choke off the recovery, ultimately resulting in a longer period of low interest rates."

Complete lies....the Bernanke is forbidden by his zionism to charge his fellow zionists interest. Period! 

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:53 | 3588408 knukles
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Choking off what recovery?

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:52 | 3588403 Dr. Engali
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The 10 year is starting to wake up. Bill Gross better do his doody and buy it so he can get back in the Bernank's good graces.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:55 | 3588418 Professorlocknload
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"Our view is Jawboning is on, in an attempt to temper bubbles we and our accomplice Ben have created, in lieu of a bond market stampede."

Fixed it.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 13:01 | 3588441 cougar_w
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Correct.

They need the bubble to make any money. There is no other way to make money now except via speculative bubbles, which they create themselves, but they can create them only so long as there are willing playerz with mad money and no hope except to "go 4 it!" Complicating things, the sheep are nearly shorn now so they need to extend the bubble waaaaay beyond its usual lifespan because this is likely the last bubble for a while. Like, maybe for a few hundred years.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 12:59 | 3588433 the grateful un...
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we taper down on the expectations of tapering, the fact we are discussing tapering should be enough to remind you that we'll always be there to backstop the market, tapering or no tapering

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 13:01 | 3588440 scatterbrains
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Gs says,  "Don't worry guys keep buying the dip.. we promise we'll warn you when it's time to get out. 

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 13:03 | 3588446 Quinvarius
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Is Goldman just changing their mind ever 5 minutes so they can claim they called it when the something happens either way?

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 13:12 | 3588486 curbyourrisk
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December....what year?

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