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Japanese Bond Market Halted At Open As Bond Selling Purge Goes Global

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Japanese government bonds (JGB) futures have been halted once again this evening as the market opens down over 1 point. 10Y yields smash 11.5bps higher to 1.00% and 5Y yields add 6bps to 47bps. These are quite simply unprecedented moves in what 'was' a safe asset class and impresses yet another VaR shock on the market (as we detailed here). What this means practically is that Japanese banks push further into insolvency land (as we explained here) today's move wipes out another 1.5% of blended Tier 1 capital off the entire Japanese banking industry. Since the 10Y JGB yield lows of 32.5 bps on April 5, the move is rapidly approaching a full percentage point, or the parallel shift amount that the IMF warned would lead to 10% and 20% MTM losses for regional and major banks respectively. Today's jump in 10Y yields continues the post-BoJ regime of greater-than-six-sigma moves... something no risk model can withstand for three weeks. Just a good job the BoJ didn't have anything at all to say about this totally disorderly fiasco yesterday.

JGB Futures plunge to two-year lows...

 

leaving yields spiking...

 

10Y yields have now tripled from the post-BoJ meeting lows (in 7 weeks!!)

 

JPY is being sold like there's no tomorrow (which for the Japanese may well be true)

 

Meanwhile the Nikkei 225 is tearing hiugher once again - now up ovcer 85% from its Oct 2012 lows...

 

Charts: Bloomberg

 

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Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:23 | 3589962 buzzsaw99
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almost 1% on the 10y omg it's teotwawki

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:28 | 3589986 The Shootist
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Shocking, don't see 10 bps every day.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:35 | 3590001 flacon
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A MUST WATCH video explaining the significance of this:

 

 

Japan's Debt Problem Visualized

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njp8bKpi-vg

 

(4% yield is mathematical economic death)

 

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:47 | 3590075 Crisismode
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The Yen follows next.

 

Wait, patiently,

 

tomorrow morning it blows up, and then, down.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:49 | 3590080 Manthong
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omigosh.. why so ever would anyone not want to buy something that is depreciating by large amounts on a daily basis?

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:08 | 3590153 Meat Hammer
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Being that I am still barely out of diapers when it comes to investing and finance, are there any books or other media than anyone could recommend to help me understand the world of bonds and terms like Tier 1, effects of bps, etc.?  Many thanks.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:14 | 3590175 Caviar Emptor
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Minsky! Minsky! Your moment is at hand!

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:27 | 3590200 Manthong
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Crack up boom boom?

maybe not until they burn the  alleged Tier 2 capital which  buttresses the system until the alleged deposits gets whacked by what is alleged to be a market.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:36 | 3590227 CClarity
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:(

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 23:39 | 3590702 Meat Hammer
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Minsky moment...very succinct explanation of what's going on...or aboout to.  Thanks.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 03:47 | 3591123 Bearwagon
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+1 for good ol' Hyman reference. (Steve Keen mentions him often, too.)

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:31 | 3590221 noless
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Bond shock, yield up price down(to account for future rollover into higher yield), bond derivatives, or vice versa, currency, hit down for sale, as carry realigned between maturities(curve realigned to new expectations) currency flattens.

Sell, hot money hiTs currency (the sale)(up), assets redistributed for yield.

This is my laymans take, i honestly have no clue wtf is up.

But I'm guessing it will keep happening.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:58 | 3590330 RockyRacoon
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Kyle Bass could probably explain it to ya.

Kyle Bass -- hell yeah!

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 22:08 | 3590368 noless
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I'll let you know next Thursday, thanks for the heads up.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 23:53 | 3590739 AustriAnnie
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+1.  And Bass has too much class to rub it in their faces when he's proven right. I just want to see that humble shy "I TRIED to tell you so!" smile on his face when he gets interviewed by all the morons who tried to make him look like a fool over the years.  

 

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 22:24 | 3590435 Hulk
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Watch kyle Bass explain bonds and how they can blow up sovereigns overnight just like we see happening here. Go to youtube and search on kyle bass. Whats happening in Japan recently in regards to bonds is a big fucking deal and the only question left is what king of domino effect will the blow have world wide...

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 03:58 | 3591112 RebelDevil
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Add to that Max Keiser. He's been calling for a JGB crash 6 months ago, predicting it would happen in april.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 22:37 | 3590497 Hulk
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Just remembered I can save you some time. A couple of months ago, Interest on the japanese debt was one quarter of Japanese tax revenues. When interest payments = tax revenues, its game over.

Thats why Japan has had 10 FinMins in 5 years and why they either commit suicide or check into mental institutions after they quit...

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 23:42 | 3590712 Meat Hammer
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Thanks Hulkster.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:12 | 3590168 maxmad
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Rumors floating around that the next 2 days are going to be epic... The Nik potentially collapsing followed by the Dow... markets closing early, bank holiday... Happy Memorial day everyone!!

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:36 | 3590235 garypaul
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Again? I guess 2000th time might be the charm!

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:50 | 3590300 maxmad
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all takes in 1 time!

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 22:27 | 3590457 Hulk
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You know, when this shit finally blows, its going to be a horrible thing for us, but I'm hoping that these corrupt sons of bitches lose their goddamn heads...

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 08:18 | 3591487 andrewp111
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This little blip is just a correction. The real crash requires the DOW to be much higher first.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 00:02 | 3590757 Mine Is Bigger
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The Nikkei is down a tad over 2% now.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:01 | 3590132 klockwerks
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Flacon, thanks for the link, looks like deep doo doo for Japan

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 05:55 | 3591218 NipponMarketBlog
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Excellent video. Thanks.

 

http://nipponmarketblog.wordpress.com/

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:29 | 3589988 WmMcK
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Maybe TheBeginningOfTEOTWAWKI -- but I feel fine.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:02 | 3590139 max2205
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Gee, what ever happened to ZIRP?

 

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:52 | 3590097 AndrewJackson
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When you consider their population demographics, interest expense, deficit to gdp, and shear size of their debt: I can assure you going from 32 bps to 100 bps is indeed quite scary. How sad is it that a 2% yield on a 10 year bond is where one of the greatest western ponzi's ever declares game, set, match.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 23:28 | 3590674 LawsofPhysics
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Indeed, I hope the sovereigns of the west like to play dominoes.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 02:08 | 3591013 Nick Jihad
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OK, but that increase in the 10yr yield is going to take ten years to feed into the Japanese government's bottom line, right?  The banks will face some ugly mark-to-market losses in the mean time, but we solved that in the US by suspending the MtM rule.

 

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:04 | 3590111 SRSrocco
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It is quite amazing to watch grown adults trade this kind of nonsense.  This is the very same kind of garbage trading that produced the SILVER FLASH CRASH on Sunday night.  Martin Armstrong stated that the reason why the price of silver fell nearly 10%, because there were a lack of bids.   How silly, it goes without saying -- especially in the thinly most traded time period of the day.  Anyhow, I replied to Martin Armstrongs bearish silver commentary in the following post:

RESPONSE TO: Martin Armstrong’s “Silver — the Flash Crash”
Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:56 | 3590113 maxmad
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So this is how it ends!

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 22:26 | 3590453 lolmao500
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If the markets weren't that cooked and would stop ``halting`` every single time the free market tries to make a come back it would have been over a long time ago.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:27 | 3589978 Cognitive Dissonance
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I can't wait until the wheels come off.

Wait.......

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:30 | 3589995 LetThemEatRand
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Do these count as wheels, http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.inautonews.com/wp-content..., 'cause that's about what these markets look like.  

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:35 | 3590016 Stoploss
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LOL! A big one just flew by your head cog!

Look out!!

Time to look for some bond shorts eh?

Will the old TBT dog see it's day??

We shall see.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:42 | 3590053 CClarity
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It will get REAL when they match US action today. Nikkei down and JGBs down (yields up) for a super whacky change up. And then the margin calls will get ripping and EVERYTHING will go whoosh! Time to be very fleet.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:05 | 3590148 DeadFred
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Safer to short non-gov. bonds. They will rise with the interest rate environment but are less likely to be monetized. Junk bonds will be destroyed when this breaks loose.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:38 | 3590247 Ness.
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They're ALL junk bonds.

.gov bonds are backed by war.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 08:17 | 3591480 andrewp111
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At least UST's are backed by nuclear weapons and the most powerful military machine in the world. You can't say that for JGB's.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:40 | 3590044 westboundnup
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Ungh! Ungh!

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:28 | 3589984 jdkeller
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When the yield on your 10yr note goes up by ~2.5x in 2 months,  that is a problem!  Especially if your already spending 25% of revenues just servicing your current debt.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:34 | 3590012 buzzsaw99
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someone is selling at a loss and it damn sure isn't the boj

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:37 | 3590241 Mike in GA
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Kyle Bass said a 2% move will blow them up.  They're halfway there.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:28 | 3589987 LetThemEatRand
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I remember when Apple kept going up in parabolic form and it kept stopping out because the moves up were too big.  

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:30 | 3589993 fonzannoon
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Here we go bitches.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:32 | 3590004 insanelysane
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you can only play if you buy. sellers need not apply.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:37 | 3590027 SpeakerFTD
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Admiral Josh Painter: This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emdzsz_XvfA

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:38 | 3590033 Its Only Rock N Roll
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The 2 biggest sov debt markets are starting to melt down simultaneously.  JGB's & UST.  10Y UST down in overnight trading too.  Do the central banks of the 2 largest sov debt markets lose control at the same time?  Why not?

http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/us-treasury/10-year-us-tr...

 

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:30 | 3589996 JustObserving
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Abe should learn to speak from both sides of his mouth like Bernanke.  Then he will have the best of both worlds like Bernanke - a well behaved bond market and a surging stock market.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:31 | 3590000 They trynna cat...
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Praying that they make it through the other side of this madness without a major war or a new NWO-approved third world immigration policy.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:33 | 3590008 The Shootist
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At least they don't have porous borders or diversity problems to worry about. Just China...

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:57 | 3590117 They trynna cat...
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Britain didn't have porous borders either, and look what happened to them.  A third world piece of excrement just cut off a British soldier's head on a London street while a bunch of British faggots sit around in cafes patting themselves on the back for their 'tolerance.'

TPTB and their Korean chumps are already playing the "comfort women" fairy tale against Japan as hard as they can.  "Comfort women" has become to Japan what "the Holocaust®" is to Germany: a never-ending excuse to demand monetary reparations and political conciliations.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 23:14 | 3590630 Notarocketscientist
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Remind me of how many tens of thousands we killed in Iraq?

Remind me of how many innocent people we kill on a WEEKLY basis with drones?

Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth... just like that 'piece of shit' said on the video.

So FUCK YOU mate.

 

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 23:29 | 3590677 They trynna cat...
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Speak for yourself, "we" no longer have control over "our" government at this point.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 01:16 | 3590916 Missiondweller
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Remind me of how many tens of thousands  Baath party members & terrorists killed in Iraq?

 

There, fixed it for you chump.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:01 | 3590131 drdolittle
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lol. We have immigration policy and we'll soon have war.

I'm as selfish as the next guy. I've got an 11 yo son I don't want anywhere near a miliatary. The sooner the better and the pace is quickening.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:34 | 3590013 disabledvet
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What was that term with Greece back in the good old days? "geo strategic risk"? a country goes broke slowly...then all at once.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:34 | 3590014 famousamos
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So is this good for Kyle Bass?

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:34 | 3590015 Bay of Pigs
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So what happens when they halt trading everday, then every hour, and then halt it altogether?

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:37 | 3590030 NotApplicable
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Perfectly efficient market?

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:43 | 3590055 fonzannoon
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BOP I have seen this playbook before and the next thing that happens is the press conference where they blame an illness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sVdXg0aYYw

If that fails then they blame the market glitches on this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DItgw1mU9Us

Only finally, when that fails, can we find out the truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbv5B71KmkA

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:37 | 3590026 ebworthen
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How can it be called a market when "undesired" trading is halted?

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:37 | 3590031 Jack Burton
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Halt trading? What happened to free and open markets? What happened to price discovery? Oh, that is on the way up, any downward pressure and it is "HALT TRADING". What a fucking joke, no, this ain't capitalism, it is rigged markets. Every market now is rigged.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:41 | 3590047 LetThemEatRand
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Even the ammunition market is rigged by massive government purchases of same (for good reason given the rigging of all other markets, presumably)

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 22:07 | 3590362 Jack Burton
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Yep, they are hell bent on gold manipulation and driving it down so it can't compete with fiat as a form of wealth store for average people. They are trying to kill Bitcoin because it ain't banker fiat. Where is the free market?

How in hell can anyone call this shit free markets. I laugh my ass off when someone calls the US economy capitalist.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 22:20 | 3590434 noless
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It changes when the miners decide to exchange only based on innate demand/cost, that is the nationalization play.

If metals refuse to grind their workers harder, and the earth(local communities (pollution)) in extension, then industry either collapses, or is forcibly nationalized; without of course, the people that actually know how to run things.

Price manipulation will result in a "brain drain" no matter how many immigrants they import.

Cue the sadists.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:38 | 3590032 ParkAveFlasher
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Dishonor!

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:40 | 3590040 logicalman
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Wonder what the Bernank will do with this.

I imagine his deodorant is working overtime tonight!

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:40 | 3590041 delivered
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No worries about the losses when rates rise as mark to market accounting will be "suspended" and replaced with "I'm going to hold this debt until maturity so market losses are irrelevant bullshit accounting". Worked in the US when the banks simply did not acknowledge any losses (and still use this hybrid accounting method). The government's will allow the banks the leeway to use just about whatever accounting method they want and in fact, the banks may find a way to actually increase asset values (as somewhere in their books, derivatives will be repriced higher by some magical accounting method). That's the real issue with the banks as gains are realized when needed but losses are justified as "temporary market conditions" and investments are left on the books at cost. I don't believe anyone, anywhere has any idea of the magnitude of this problem but why worry as the banksters will be given freedom to cook their books whenever and wherever needed. 

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:41 | 3590045 tecno242
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Since Japanese citizens own a large portion of the national debt, they are taking quite the pounding to their net worth. 

Could be the equivilant of our housing crash, except with far wrose consequences in Japan as they have no counter move.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:50 | 3590083 tecno242
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I wonder what the 2nd largest world economy falling into a deep uncontrollable depression will do to the global economy.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 03:44 | 3591122 Minburi
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That seems like an impossibility to me. 

I'm practically certain that Bernanke and company are gearing to bail them out as you read this.

What other option does he have?

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 05:14 | 3591180 e-recep
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i hope it fucks the "global" economy fair and square.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:48 | 3590077 Hopium Dealer
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Grab your ankles Depend wearing Japanese senior citizens, Abe is going in dry.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:02 | 3590137 Nue
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In Japan it's an honor to be @## F##ked through your Wallet by your leaders.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 05:54 | 3591217 Room 101
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What were you looking to say?  Assfucked?  While ZH has a new political correctness policy to ensure that no protected social grouping is offended by the posts contained herein, profanity is still acceptable.   

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:49 | 3590082 alphamentalist
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Hory clap!

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:52 | 3590090 fonzannoon
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The most interesting part of this is the selloffs in UST's that follow the selloff in the JGB's. Fuck you Bernanke and your bullshit fuckin windown. You are going to have to print 200 billion next month at this rate.

You made you bed you dumb piece of shit monster, now we all are going to lay in it.

I guaranfuckingtee he is out of here with a pulled hamstring within two weeks of they don't find a way to put this shit back in the elephants ass.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:54 | 3590105 Bay of Pigs
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Is this the Full Retard moment we've all been waiting for?

Cue the deer in headlights pic Tyler. 

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:05 | 3590114 fonzannoon
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BOP I still don't think so. I think this thing goes in fits and starts. Believe it or not you could see money flying out of those Japanese bond markets straight into the U.S stock market in the short term. If the U.S 10yr gets pushed up high enough I think money may go flying in there as well.

Can the U.S avoid a direct hit if Japan hits the windshield? I guess we are going to find out.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:57 | 3590116 fonzannoon
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dup sorry

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:52 | 3590094 CitizenPete
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This is bearish for gold short term

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:54 | 3590103 fonzannoon
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and the most bullish thing in history after that.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:58 | 3590121 FreeMktFisherMN
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it's such  crap. Who cares about the relative ratio between fiat toilet paper currencies? What if both in the same proportion printed quadrillions of their currency, but the ratio stayed at USDJPY 1.03  Would that also be bearish for gold? Compare currencies relative to their purchasing power in real things, because they all are getting blowtorched.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:13 | 3590172 thelibcentury
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Excellent, well put. I was trying to convey something similar earlier to #James_Cole but his perspective is a little bit...shall we say, small?

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:55 | 3590309 noless
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James Cole is a reference to the movie "twelve monkeys", if you haven't seen it then perhaps you are missing the cognitive dissonance (not the poster) angle, or maybe i just think he's too clever and picked a handle that suits my biases.

James Cole is chosen from a subterranean slave population to determine the causes of the complete collapse of life on the face of the earth, he is escorted through time and eventually (unknowingly) sets off events which hasten the eventual collapse (through the incompetence of those sending him through times inability to accurately pinpoint locations(temporal or otherwise)), once he arrives at his intended destination he continues his involvement with a psychologist who had convinced him previously that he was insane, at this point he emphatically agrees with her even as it becomes apparent to her(and everyone) that he was in fact telling the truth, but do to his conditioning he continues to espouse his disbelief even as the reality he once heralded crumbles around him.

Watch the movie i guess (don't pay money) it's got brad pit in it.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 22:00 | 3590340 thelibcentury
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Yeah I've seen it, name didn't jog my memory at first but thanks to you its back.

 

I agree, decent movie - I actually like a lot of Gilliam's stuff, though it does miss "something, Pitt is interesting in that one too.

So, its an artfully chosen troll name? I don't get it, a GUS troll would never have that kind of creativity would it?

 

You've piqued my curiosity.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:07 | 3590149 Nue
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Actually in the end it will be neither. If you believe Dr. Antal E. Fekete

The price of gold is headed for extinction. I for one don't believe that the price of gold is headed for five digits. Long before that might happen, permanent backwardation* would shut down the gold futures markets. Gold could no longer be purchased at any price. Gold would only be available through barter. World trade is facing an avalanche-like transformation flattening out monetary economy into barter economy. Practically all economists, financial writers and market analysts have missed this possible scenario. They don't see the greatest economic contraction ever staring them in the face. They don't see the coming tsunami of unemployment. Very few see deflation as indicated by the progressive disappearance of cash gold. It never occurred to Bernanke that the new Federal Reserve notes he is printing galore could also go to purchase physical gold, causing the gold basis to shrink. Once the gold basis* goes permanently negative, the total U.S. debt, all $16 trillion of it, will not be worth one ounce of gold. That will pull the rug from underneath the international monetary system. Barter is the ultimate in deflation, and that is what the world economy is getting.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:12 | 3590170 Bay of Pigs
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I respect Fekete's work but can you imagine what the world will look like if his scenario plays out?

That is Mad Max times a hundred.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:15 | 3590176 thelibcentury
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What did you expect when the world starts to burn? Too much complexity to unwind in any sort of orderly fashion...

And he is spot on. Price targets are constructs of the current paradigm.

New paradigm approaches...

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:31 | 3590220 Pareto
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if gold goes south (to zero), then we go north (to barter).

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 22:43 | 3590517 RockyRacoon
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I'm going long scuba gear. 

I hear there's a lot of gold sitting at the bottom of many bodies of water.

Piss-poor boating practices, to be sure.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 22:38 | 3590501 RockyRacoon
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This is bearish for gold short term

MarketWatch has gone full retard on that one:

Gold will not make a comeback

Gold has been beaten down hard after soaring to over $1,900 an ounce, and some investors think that the time has come to get back into the metal. However, there are simply too many negatives to see much upside here.
Gold will not make a comeback.

Don't be fooled: Gold is no currency

Gold bugs have been spinning yarns about how gold has become a de facto currency, writes Michael Casey. But those stories haven't held up.
Don't be fooled: Gold is no currency.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 00:05 | 3590768 Meat Hammer
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I don't stack because of what gold is worth.  I stack because it's never been worthless.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 06:06 | 3591224 Room 101
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That is a full retard statement from market watch.  I happen to be short term bearish on gold as well, but to say gold is not going to make a comeback at some point is pure hubris.  And it smacks of desperation and an eagerness to sell a big lie. Makes you wonder what their real position is; are they buying with both fists? 

A real bear has no need for the big lie.  The facts are enough to validate short term bearishness.  A glance at the price charts for the last two months is a start.  So why lie?  

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:53 | 3590098 TrustWho
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......NIKKEI loves inflation and the demise of the Japanese culture +1.49% and may break above 16,000

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 20:24 | 3594202 TrustWho
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oooops, the retracement was amazing! The correlation was symmetrical beauty.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 20:57 | 3590115 NidStyles
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Can we just start this party already? I'm tired of this waiting....

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:09 | 3590154 ChaosEquilibrium
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Looks like JGB's just 're-re-opened'......5yr up9%...10 yr up 9 1/2%......feedback loop 5...4...3...2...!  How are THEY going to explain the COMPLETE COLLAPSE of ALL Major Economies....in days when it goes.....when everything is just FINE according to dead man walking Bernanke???  Many/Most will be introduced to the "ULTIMATE REALITY SHOW" soon....and it is Zero Sum and WE ALL are 'players'!!  Should have let the market CLEAR in 2008!!

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:28 | 3590209 WillieNelsonListener
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Same place that invented the Kamakazi?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNYGJyw5FoA

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:36 | 3590236 Dr. Engali
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There is no better way to watch the collapse of the Japanese bond market than having a good stuff drink, cleaning my AR and hanging out on the Hedge.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:41 | 3590262 fonzannoon
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What are you going to drink tomorrow night when the treasury market collapses?

Do you think Kito is on Ammex right now?

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:47 | 3590287 Dr. Engali
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I'm drinking Guinness with shots of Crown. I don't know about Kito ... He actually believes that there will be silver and gold to get when the paper price gets smashed.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 00:10 | 3590783 Meat Hammer
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I'll drink Irish car bombs in hopes of many of them being detonated in banksters' pimpmobiles.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 03:37 | 3591116 RebelDevil
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The Tylers are too modest! This post should be renamed "It's official! JGB Futures are collapsing, Yields rising fast." 

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:41 | 3590251 Antifederalist
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This is the end. The end my friend.

Bonds crater, stocks crack up, monetization increases.

Fear of monetization leads to dumping of more bonds.

Self re-enforcing feedback loop.

World markets to Ben: CHECKMATE .

I'll take Epic Financial Collapses for $1,000, Alex.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:49 | 3590298 AndrewJackson
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Don't underestimate the power of dumb money investors extending this ponzi for a long long time. The US could easilly have 15-20 years of kick the can before the day of reckoning arrives. If japan has showed us anything, it is that the size of debt does not matter if investors have faith. It is losing faith that keeps these central planners up at night.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:55 | 3590313 Antifederalist
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Possible. But not likely. Too much hot money looking for a trend. When the scales fall gold goes infinite bid, no ask.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 22:04 | 3590355 Stares straight...
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Yes. The US (Bernank) will b Putin' all 85 B towards the purchase of yen, so as to support it. watch OUR stock market decline first as that POMO fails to arrive in equities. China will be forced, in turn, to buy the UST.

This will go on for a while. Japan ( and the US) are hoping for some new Kondratiev wave to lift all boats, and it best be a tsunami.

Will it arrive before the us taxpayer goes civil war on their ass?

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 22:08 | 3590370 thelibcentury
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And I'd argue that the investors have lost faith. Not the monied players, but much more importantly the vast number of participants in the game. Kinda like a quickly diminishing WSOP. Well, maybe there is a bottleneck (on geopolitical/fiscal time scales) where players are buckling down and being conservative, but once that dam is broken those remaining start dropping like flies, while the leaders eat up their stacks.

Except in this Series, those few players have the secret table level cameras on every player, every hand - they cannot lose, except when it is beneficial to them to do so.

Well, even then they would eventually run out of suckers to swindle and have to confront each other in a real way.

Don't overestimate the ability of a complex system to act in increasing coordination amidst decreasing stability.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 22:44 | 3590524 web bot
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There isn`t 15 or 20 years of good will left in the US. Perhaps 3 or 4 more years... at the extreme.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 22:28 | 3590461 Dr. Engali
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No this isn't the end yet. When the end comes you will see asset classes vaporize as all the markets go bid less We are very close though, they still have a couple tricks up their sleeve, like bank holidays and seizing assets. If you're in the system you better get the hell out. .

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:44 | 3590270 chump666
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China is playing the Japanese.  See if they get yields back to 2011 levels.  Drive up rates and make BoJ and Abe look like f*cking clowns.  Next Japan stocks ala:

 *foreign investors bought net Y716.0 bln Japan stks

As a stock crash is looming, Japan will be short on all fronts cept JPY. 

Japan is under economic attack from within and outside.

Tasty.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:45 | 3590276 fonzannoon
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what do we do chump?

 

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:56 | 3590319 chump666
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Bust out the popcorn and study the subtle:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-Six_Stratagems#Thirty-Six_Stratagems

It was comical that Abe seriously thought he could mess with China and the rest of Asia.  Japanese banks will be in trouble once yields blow out further, if stocks are hit next, there goes the pension funds (Japanese citizens savings).  For us, we will have to see.  The bluntness of money printing could support ranges.    I don't know, we could be next.  30yr mortgage rate is up, 10yr UST is up, USD is bid = liquidity tightening/rates etc.

QE has failed sans Wall Street cronies cashing in.

 

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:59 | 3590337 new game
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all i care about is the end of july as my home closes and i am free to roam about...

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:58 | 3590328 Its Only Rock N Roll
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China has used the N. Korean puppet well also, probably in exchange for some colored beads and fire water. 

Start looking for capitulation top in NKY:

http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/NKY:IND

They will buy the socks until the very end.

 

 

 

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 22:02 | 3590349 new game
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down draft days a comin - been ther don that.  nice to be permanently (self banned) sidelined.

much better view, i do say...

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 00:51 | 3590866 chump666
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Like clockwork, Nikkei just got slammed.

 

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 21:58 | 3590329 Its_the_economy...
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Who remembers this: "Please do not worry."

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 22:07 | 3590363 new game
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anybody thinking ben to put a bid under this mess in japan?

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 22:08 | 3590365 malek
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As long as it's not
   “We were seeing things that were 25-standard deviation moves, several days in a row,” said David Viniar
(Goldman Sachs CFO, on August 13, 2007)

I'd say everything is peachy.

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 22:20 | 3590436 yogibear
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When Japan blows we can see a preview of the US.

Keep printing Abe up until you go off the cliff.

 

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 22:28 | 3590456 lolmao500
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Shorting the yen is making me a shitload of money...

Japan is fucked as a society for at least the next 20 years... if not 100.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 03:43 | 3591121 Lore
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Is Fukushima fixed?

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 03:51 | 3591125 Bearwagon
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No way! That'll take at least fifty years, if not much longer ...

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 22:33 | 3590482 Its Only Rock N Roll
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NKY has reversed and gone down on the day from up 2%....could be from the Chinese PMI data, not sure.  Either way volatility is increasing in equities too.

http://www.investing.com/indices/japan-ni225

 

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 22:51 | 3590545 1000924014093
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I'm seeing some wild movements in nikkei 225--over the last 20 minutes it's gone red and then green at least twice

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 23:55 | 3590745 Its Only Rock N Roll
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NKY gettin monkey hammered now.  Down over 800 points from top. Free fall

http://www.investing.com/markets/asia-pacific

Wed, 05/22/2013 - 23:57 | 3590751 ChaosEquilibrium
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......Down goes Nikkei....Down goes Nikkei.....DOWN 240 to  DOWN 490 in seconds.....will BOJ intervene? or is this wanted outcome to tame the 'market that is NOT in a bubble'?

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 00:21 | 3590804 GOLD AND SILVER...
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DOWN 650 now!!!  :O

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 00:30 | 3590825 Meat Hammer
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Nikkei is down 570 points!

http://e.nikkei.com/e/fr/marketlive.aspx

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 01:42 | 3590968 realtick
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this chick has an excellent grasp of the jap situation

Meet Christine Hughes

http://chartistfriendfrompittsburgh.blogspot.com/2013/05/meet-christine-...

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 01:46 | 3590976 Anomalous Howard
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Nikkei halted now.

Japan is dead in the water.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 01:49 | 3590981 Dan The Man
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Oh its just the Japanese bond market !  

I thought it said the James Bond market...I almost had a heart attack there

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 02:32 | 3591051 q99x2
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Did you know that darn Nikkei goes down faster than it went up. At this rate by the end of the week it will be lower than before the Central Banksters wisdom was bestowed upon it.

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