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The Bronze Swan Arrives: Is The End Of Copper Financing China's "Lehman Event"?

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In all the hoopla over Japan's stock market crash and China's PMI miss last night, the biggest news of the day was largely ignored: copper, and the fact that copper's ubiquitous arbitrage and rehypothecation role in China's economy through the use of Chinese Copper Financing Deals (CCFD) is coming to an end.

Copper, as China pundits may know, is the key shadow interest rate arbitrage tool, through the use of financing deals that use commodities with high value-to-density ratios such as gold, copper, nickel, which in turn are used as collateral against which USD-denominated China-domestic Letters of Credit are pleged, in what can often result in a seemingly infinite rehypothecation loop (see explanation below) between related onshore and offshore entities, allowing loop participants to pick up virtually risk-free arbitrage (i.e., profits), which however boosts China's FX lending and leads to upward pressure on the CNY.

Since the end result of this arbitrage hits China's current account directly, and is the reason for the recent aberrations in Chinese export data that have made a mockery of China's economic data reporting, China's State Administration on Foreign Exchange (SAFE) on May 5 finally passed new regulations which will effectively end such financing deals.

The impact of this development can not be overstated: according to independent observers, as well as firms like Goldman, this will not only impact the copper market (very adversely) as copper will suddenly go from a positive return/carry asset to a negative carry asset leading to wholesale dumping from bonded warehouses, but will likely take out a substantial chunk of synthetic shadow leverage out of the Chinese market and economy.

Naturally, for an economy in which credit creation is of utmost importance, the loss of one such key financing channel will have very unintended consequences at best, and could potentially lead to a significant "credit event" in the world's fastest growing large economy at worst.

But before we get into the nuts and bolts of how such CCF deals operate, and what this means for systemic leverage, we bring you this friendly note released by Goldman's Roger Yuan overnight, in which Goldman not only quietly cut their long Copper trading recommendation established on March 1 (at a substantial loss), but implicitly went short the metal with a 12 month horizon: a huge shift for a bank that has been, on the surface, calling for a global renaissance in the global economy, and in which Dr. Copper is a very leading indicator of overall economic health and end demand.

From Goldman:

Closing: Long LME copper September 2013 contract at $7,482/t, a $236/t (3.1%) loss


Following the initial sell-off in copper prices in the second half of February 2013, we established a long copper position at $7,718/t in the September contract (on March 1, 2013). We believed that the fall in copper prices, reflecting in part concerns about Chinese activity, was overdone. We reiterated this view on April 22, post further substantial price declines. Since then, prices have rebounded strongly, with the September contract closing at $7,482/t on May 22, up by 10% from the May 1 low of $6,808/t.


The emergence of the risk that CCFDs unwind over the next 3 months – we had assumed that deals would continue indefinitely – has complicated our near-term bullish copper view (from current prices). On the one hand, our fundamental short-term thesis is playing out – copper inventories are drawing, copper’s main end-use markets in China are growing solidly (property sales +39% yoy, completions +7% yoy, auto’s output +14% yoy Jan-April 2013), seasonal factors are currently supportive, Chinese scrap availability is tight, positioning also remains short, and policy risks are, arguably, mildly skewed to the upside.


Set against this is the likely near-term unwind in CCFDs and, critically, our view that copper is headed into surplus in 2014 (the window for higher copper prices is shortening). On net, we now see the risks to our 6-mo forecast of $8,000/t as skewed to the downside, and, in this context, we unwind our September long copper position at $7,482/t, a $236/t (3.1%) loss, given the recent strong rally in LME prices to near our 3-mo target of $7,500/t. Additionally, we believe that a further rally in copper prices in the near term would be a good selling opportunity taking a 12-month view [ZH: translated: short it].


Consumers: We believe that consumers will have a better opportunity to enter the copper market to buy taking a 12-month view. Following the recent sharp sell-off in zinc we are increasingly bullish on the outlook from current prices and as such believe consumers should take advantage of current low levels.


Producers: Our base case of a sharp slowdown in growth of Chinese construction completions in 2014, in the context of above-trend supply growth, presents significant longer-term downside risks to global copper demand growth and prices. Therefore we continue to believe that any further rallies in the copper price in 2013 represent a good opportunity to hedge, and in our view other non-producer market participants should continue to monitor any copper positions in light of the 2014 downside risks.


So just what is the significance of CCFDs? As it turns out, it is huge. Goldman explains (get a cup of coffee first: this is not a simple walk-thru):

The combination of Chinese capital controls and a significant positive domestic (CNY) to foreign (USD) interest rate differential has, in recent years, resulted in the development and implementation of large scale ‘financing deals’ which legally arbitrage the interest rate differential via China’s current account. These Chinese ‘financing deals’ typically use commodities with high value-to-density ratios such as gold, copper, nickel and ‘high-tech’ goods, as a tool to enable interest rate arbitrage. With the notional value of the deals far exceeding the export/import value of the commodities used, and likely significantly contributing to the recent run-up in China’s short-term FX lending (and related upward pressure on the CNY), China’s State Administration of Foreign Exchange (SAFE) announced new regulations to address these issues (May 5), to be implemented in June. Goldman continues:

SAFE’s new policies are, in our view, likely to bring these Chinese ‘financing deals’ to an end over the next 1-3 months. Having said this, some uncertainty remains around the implementation of the new policies by SAFE and Chinese banks, the speed at which the policies impact the market, and the possibility that new financing deals are “invented”. Owing to these uncertainties, a complete unwind of CCFDs is still at this point considered a risk.

In this note we provide a full example of a typical deal and discuss our understanding of the impact of an unwind in Chinese Copper Financing Deals (CCFDs) 1 on the copper market.


Our view is that the bulk of copper stored in bonded warehouses in China – at least 510,000t at present, as well as some inbound copper shipments into China – is being used to unlock the CNY-USD interest rate differential. This material has not been entirely unavailable to the market (deals can be broken if costs rise, such as a tightening of LME spreads), but the inventory has been effectively financed by factors exogenous to the copper market for some time.


We find that a complete unwind of CCFDs would be bearish for copper prices as the copper used to unlock the differential would shift from being a positive return/carry asset to a negative carry asset for those who currently hold it. As such this inventory will likely become more ‘available’ to the global market. Initially stocks would likely move into the Chinese domestic market to ease the current tightness, until the current SHFE price premium to LME closes.


After the SHFE-LME price arbitrage closes sufficiently, the remaining bonded stock (over and above day-to-day working flows) would likely shift from bonded warehouses to the LME. We expect that the ex-China (LME) market would likely see inventory increases as a result, as China draws on bonded stocks instead of importing and as excess bonded stocks are shifted back on to the LME. We estimate that the ex-China market will need to ‘carry’ a minimum of 200-250kt of additional physical copper over the coming months, equivalent to 4%-5% of quarterly global supply. The latter would most likely result in a widening contango, including downward pressure on cash prices.


Specifically, the current LME 3-15 month contango is 1.1%, compared to full carry of c.3%-3.5%.


The emergence of this bearish risk – we had assumed that deals would continue indefinitely – complicates our near-term bullish copper view. Indeed, our fundamental short-term thesis is unfolding – copper inventories are drawing, copper’s main end-use markets in China are growing solidly (property sales +39% yoy, completions +7% yoy, auto’s output +14% yoy over the Jan-April 2013 period), seasonal factors are currently supportive, and scrap availability in China is reportedly tight. Positioning also remains short, and policy risks may be mildly skewed to the upside (ECB meeting June 6 and FOMC meeting June 18-19).


The other factors that have recently supported a rebound in copper prices have been mine supply disruptions at Grasberg in Indonesia (c.480kt for 2013E), and the threat of further strikes in Chile ahead of the Chilean elections and at Grasberg ahead of contract negotiations (the current labour contract ends in September). Our forecast 2013 disruption allowance of 5.8%, or c.900kt is designed to account for these kinds of developments, and so far this year our allowance looks reasonable, meaning that these disruptions are not set to impact our overall balance forecast.


Set against this is the likely near-term unwind in CCFDs and, critically, our view that copper is headed into significant surplus in 2014 (the window for higher prices is shortening). On net, we now see the risks to our 6-mo forecast of $8,000/t as skewed to the downside. In this context, we unwind our September long copper recommendation at $7,482/t, a 3% loss.

If you haven't shorted copper after reading the above.... we suggest you re-read it.

Ploughing on: below is the reason for SAFE's new dramatic regulations, and why China decided to go ahead and kill CCFD, unintended consequences, whatever they may be, be damned:

China’s foreign currency reserves have risen significantly since the start of the year, placing upward pressure on the CNY (Exhibit 1). This development prompted SAFE, China’s regulator of cross-border transactions, to announce a new set of regulations on May 5, to be implemented in June.



The new regulations can be split into two parts, and broadly summarised as follows:


a) The first measure targets Chinese bank balance sheets. This measure aims to:


i) Directly reduce the scale of China’s FX loans, thus reducing the scale of letter of credit (LC) financing (bank loans), thereby reducing the volume of funding available for CCFDs (though not specifically targeting CCFDs); and/or


ii) Raise banks’ FX net open positions (banks are required to hold a minimum net long FX position at the expense of CNY liabilities), thus raising LC financing costs, thereby increasing the cost of funding CCFDs.


Specifically, Exhibit 2 shows that SAFE aims to implement a bank loan to bank deposit ratio of 75%-100% going forward, compared to an existing ratio of  >150%.



b) The second measure targets exporters and/or importers (‘trade firms’) by identifying any activities that mainly result in FX inflows above normal export/import backed activities (i.e. trades for the purpose of interest rate arbitrage, amongst others). This measure would force entities to curb their balance sheets if they are found to be involved in such activities.


Since May10 SAFE has been requesting ‘trade firms’ provide detailed information of their balance sheets and trading records, in order to categorize them as either A-list or B-list firms by June 1, 2013. B-list firms will be required to reduce their balance sheet significantly by cutting any capital inflow related trade activities.


To avoid being categorized as a B-list firm by SAFE, ‘trade firms’ may reduce their USD LC liabilities in the near term, with CCFDs likely impacted. It is not yet clear what happens to the B-list firms once they are categorized as such. However, if B-list firms were prohibited from rolling their LC liabilities this could increase the pace of the CCFD unwind, since these trade firms would likely need to sell their liquid assets (copper included) to fund their LC liabilities accumulated through previous CCFDs.


These new regulations are likely to impact a number of markets and market participants. In this note we focus on the impact on CCFDs and the copper market. Should a) and b) be enforced, copper financing deals are highly likely to be impacted.

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That explains China's macro thinking. But what does it mean for the actual Copper Financing Deal? The below should explain it:

An example of a typical, simplified, CCFD


In this section we present an example of how a typical Chinese Copper Financing Deal (CCFD) works, and then discuss how the various parties involved are affected if the deals are forced to unwind. Exhibit 3 is a ‘simplified’ example of a CCFD, including specific reference to how the process places upward pressure on the RMB/USD. We believe this is the predominant structure of CCFDs, with other forms of Chinese copper financing deals much less profitable and likely only a small proportion of total deal volumes.


A typical CCFD involves 4 parties and 4 steps:

  • Party A – Typically an offshore trading house
  • Party B – Typically an onshore trading house, consumers
  • Party C – Typically offshore subsidiary of B
  • Party D – Onshore or offshore banks registered onshore serving B as a client

Step 1) offshore trader A sells warrant of bonded copper (copper in China’s bonded warehouse that is exempted from VAT payment before customs declaration) or inbound copper (i.e. copper on ship in transit to bonded) to onshore party B at price X (i.e. B imports copper from A), and A is paid USD LC, issued by onshore bank D. The LC issuance is a key step that SAFE’s new policies target.


Step 2) onshore entity B sells and re-exports the copper by sending the warrant documentation (not the physical copper which stays in bonded warehouse ‘offshore’) to the offshore subsidiary C (N.B. B owns C), and C pays B USD or CNH cash (CNH = offshore CNY). Using the cash from C, B gets bank D to convert the USD or CNH into onshore CNY, and trader B can then use CNY as it sees fit. 


The conversion of the USD or CNH into onshore CNY is another key step that SAFE’s new policies target. This conversion was previously allowed by SAFE because it was expected that the re-export process was a trade-related activity through China’s current account. Now that it has become apparent that CCFDs and other similar deals do not involve actual shipments of physical material, SAFE appears to be moving to halt them. 


Step 3) Offshore subsidiary C sells the warrant back to A (again, no move in physical copper which stays in bonded warehouse ‘offshore’), and A pays C USD or CNH cash with a price of X minus $10-20/t, i.e. a discount to the price sold by A to B in Step 1. 


Step 4) Repeat Step 1-Step 3 as many times as possible, during the period of LC (usually 6 months, with range of 3-12 months). This could be 10-30 times over the course of the 6 month LC, with the limitation being the amount of time it takes to clear the paperwork. In this way, the total notional LCs issued over a particular tonne of bonded or inbound copper over the course of a year would be 10-30 times the value of the physical copper involved, depending on the LC duration. 


Copper ownership and hedging: Through the whole process each tonne of copper involved in CCFDs is hedged by selling futures on LME futures curve (deals typically involve a long physical position and short futures position over the life of the CCFDs, unless the owner of the copper wants to speculate on the price).


Though typically owned and hedged by Party A, the hedger can be Party A, B, C and D, depending on the ownership of the copper warrant.

As Goldman further explains, the importance of CCFD is "not trivial" - that is an understatement: with the implicit near-infinite rehypothecation in which the number of "circuits" in the deal is only a factor of "the amount of time it takes to clear the paperwork", there may be hundreds of billions, if not more, in leverage resulting from this shadow transaction that has been used in China for years. Now, that loop is about to end. The reality is nobody can predict what the impact will be, but whatever it is - i) it will extract tremendous leverage from the system and ii) it will have adverse impacts on both China's ability to absorb inflation and grow its economy.

How important are CCFDs? They are not trivial!


Chinese ‘financing deals’, including CCFDs, are likely to contribute to China’s FX inflows since they involve direct FX inflows through China’s current account. Specifically, for CCFDs, the immediate cross-border conversion of FX to onshore CNY after Party C pays Party B for the copper warrant (Step 2) directly contributes to China’s FX inflows. In terms of outflows, the issuance of LC (FX short-term lending) by Party D to Party A (Step 1) is not associated FX outflow by definition, and when the LCs expire they tend to be rolled forward. Step 3 occurs offshore, so there is no inflow/outflow related to this transaction.


In this way, the net Chinese FX inflows/outflows associated with CCFDs are equivalent to the change in the value of the notional LCs. We make some broad estimates of how much of China’s short-term FX lending could be accounted for by CCFDs.


Specifically, our best estimate suggests that roughly 10% of China’s short-term FX lending could have been associated with CCFDs since the beginning of 2012 (Exhibit 4). In April 2013, we estimate that CCFDs accounted for $35-40 bn (stock) of China’s total short-term FX lending of $384 bn (stock), making various assumptions. More broadly, Chinese bonded inventories and short-term FX lending has been positively correlated in recent years (Exhibit 5).


Two key questions remain: how the upcoming unwind will impact each CCFD participant entity...

How an unwind may impact each CCFD participant


As we discussed on pages 4 and 5, SAFE’s new regulations target both banks’ LC issuance (first measure) and ‘trade firms’ trade activities (second measure). Here we discuss how the different entities (A, B, C, D) would likely adjust their portfolios to meet the new regulations (i.e. what happens in a complete unwind scenario).


Party A: Party A, without the prospect of $10-20/t profit per Step 1-3 iteration, is likely to find it hard to justify having bonded copper sitting on its balance sheet (the current LME contango is not sufficient to offset the rent and interest costs). As a result, Party A’s physical bonded copper would likely become ‘available’, and Party A would likely unwind its LME short futures hedge.


Party B, C: To avoid being categorized as a B-list firm by SAFE, Party B and C may reduce their USD LC liabilities by: 1) selling liquid assets to fund the USD LC liabilities, and/or 2) borrowing USD offshore and rolling LC liabilities to offshore USD liabilities. The broad impact of this is to reduce outstanding LCs, and CCFDs will likely be affected by this. It is not yet clear what happens to the B-list firms in detail once they are categorized as such. However, if B-list firms were prohibited from rolling their LC liabilities this would increase the pace of the CCFDs unwind. In this scenario, these trade firms would have to sell their liquid assets (copper included) to fund their LC liabilities accumulated through previous CCFDs.


Party D: To meet SAFE’s regulations, Party D will likely adjust their portfolios by reducing LC issuance and/or increasing FX (mainly USD) net long positions, which would directly reduce the total scale of CCFDs and/or raise the LC financing cost, respectively.

... And what happens to copper prices (hint: GTFO)

Implications for copper - bonded copper moves from a positive carry asset to negative carry asset

Implications for copper - bonded copper moves from a positive carry asset to negative carry asset


We expect that a complete unwind of CCFDs, everything else equal, is likely to be bearish for copper prices, LME spreads, and bonded premiums.


CCFDs involve a long copper physical positions and a short futures position on the LME. The physical position would be sold if CCFDs unwound and the short futures positions bought back. The newly available physical copper would not be financed by the China and ex-China interest rate differential anymore (not a positive carry asset anymore), and would instead need to be financed by a natural contango (in the interim copper becomes a negative carry asset), everything else equal.


Theoretically then, the physical market, over a short period (say, one quarter), may need to absorb as much as c.400kt of copper, equivalent to 8% of quarterly global copper supply.


By contrast, the LME futures market would need to absorb buying of c.0.2%-0.3% of quarterly traded LME volumes and c.6% of daily average 2012 open interest. The impact on the physical market is therefore likely to be relatively large, in spite the fact that an unwind of CCFDs does not result in the creation of new copper (i.e. aggregate global copper inventory impact is 0/our inventory chart does not change).


What about in practice?


Since there are no comparable historical examples to make reference to, what happens when CCFDs unwind in practice is open for debate. We believe that since the downward pressure on the physical market is large, both in absolute terms and relative to the upward pressure on the futures market, near-term prices are likely to come under relatively significant pressure. Further, if the market fears the unwind of CCFDs, physical buyers may hold off on purchases, and futures sellers may bet on lower prices (offsetting either in part or more than offsetting the financing deal related unwind buying). In this way it is likely that in practice the whole copper price curve would be under pressure in the case of a complete CCFD unwind, at least until the contango widens sufficiently to compensate for the cost of carry.


We see the following as a likely chain of events in a complete unwind scenario:

  • China would draw on bonded until it is ‘full’. In the current market bonded copper stocks will likely initially flow into the domestic Chinese market, since SHFE prices are above LME prices, with the SHFE curve in backwardation and LME in contango.
  • Chinese imports fall/remain low, placing upward pressure on LME stocks. Since China is drawing bonded inventories to meet its demand, Chinese copper imports are likely to be under downward pressure beyond May, resulting in any excess material ex-China turning up on the LME as well (Exhibit 7). Remaining bonded stocks (ex-stocks in transit), would shift to LME. Once China is ‘full’ (i.e. the import arbitrage closes, bonded physical premia decline, SHFE price and curve softens), the remaining excess bonded inventory will likely make its way on to the LME. Since China is in deficit at present (drawing bonded and SHFE inventories, SHFE in backwardation), due in part to seasonal factors, the inventory numbers noted above, in practice, will likely be smaller but still very large. Our best estimate would be a minimum of 200,000-250,000t of stock could shift/build on the LME over the next 2-3 months, or 4%-5% of quarterly global consumption.
  • LME contango to widen. Higher LME stocks suggest higher LME copper spreads, including downward pressure on the front end. Exhibit 8 illustrates that over the last 6 years, the buildup of LME inventory has been consistently associated with widening LME spreads into contango, and the scale of contango is mostly driven by financing cost and inventory levels. With excess copper flowing into LME warehouses, the spread needs to widen further to finance the carry trade effectively. For reference, LME annual rents are c.$150/t or 2% of copper prices. Assuming an annualized financing cost of 1%-1.5%, full carry is c.3%-3.5%, compared to current LME 3-15 month contango of 1.1%.


The main caveat to the above is that a complete unwind in CCFDs is still subject to the implementation of the policy by SAFE, Chinese banks and ‘trade firms’, and the possibility that new financing deals are “invented”. As a result, we will continue to closely monitor implementation of the policy by banks via monitoring bonded physical premiums, SHFE spreads and bonded stock flows.

Finally, what does all this mean for explicit rehypothecation chain leverage (initially just at the CCFD level although a comparable analysis must be done for systemic as well) and CCFD risk exposure:

Leverage in CCFDs


Below is a demonstration of the LC issuance process in a typical CCFD. Assuming an LC with a duration of 6 months, and 10 circuit completions (of Step 1-3) during that time (i.e. one CCFD takes 18 days to complete), Party D is able to issue 10 times the copper value equivalent in the form of LCs during the first 6 month LC (as shown from period t1 to t10 in Exhibit 10). In the proceeding 6 months (and beyond), the total notional value of the LCs remains the same, everything else equal, since each new LC issued is offset by the expiration of an old one (as shown from period t11 to t20).


In this example, total notional amount of LC during the life of the LC = LC duration / days of one CCFD completion* copper value = 10. In this example, the total notional amount of LC issued by Party D, total FX inflow through Party D from party A, and total CNY assets accumulated by party B (and C) are all 10 times the copper value (per tonne).


To raise the total notional value of LCs, participants could:

  • Extend the LC duration (for example, if LC duration in our model is 12 months, the notional LC could be 20 times copper value)
  • Raise the no. of circuits by reducing the amount of time it takes to clear the paperwork
  • Lock in more copper


Risk exposures of parties to CCFDs


Theoretically, Party B risk exposure > Party D risk exposure > Party A risk exposure


  • Party B’s risks are duration mismatch (LC against CNY assets) and credit default of their CNY assets;
  • Party D’s risks are the possibility that party B has severe financial difficulties. (they manage this risk by controlling the total CNY and FX credit quota to individual party B based on party B’s historical revenue, hard assets, margin and government guarantee) (Party D has the right to claim against party B (onshore entity), because party B owes party D short term FX debt (LC)). If party B were to have financial difficulties, party D can liquidate Party B’s assets.
  • Party A’s risk is mainly that party D (China’s banks) have severe financial difficulties (Party A has the right to claim against party D (onshore banks), because Party A (or Party A’s offshore banks) holds an LC issued by party D). In the case of financial difficulties for Party B, and even in case Party D has difficulties, Party A can still get theoretically get paid by party D (assuming Party D can borrow money from China’s PBoC).

In brief (pun intended): a complete, unpredictable clusterfuck accompanied by wholesale liquidations of "liquid assets", deleveraging and potentially a waterfall effect that finally bursts China's bubble, all due to a simple black swan. Although, in reality, nobody knows. Just like nobody knew what would happen when the government decided to let Lehman fail.

So... is this China's Lehman?


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Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:08 | 3591845 brewing
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fuck it, let's do this...

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:11 | 3591855 HelluvaEngineer
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US markets will close green today.  How pathetic.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:17 | 3591864 The Master
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Bernanke's bipolarism yesterday was totally deliberate.  He wanted to test market reaction.  He has now seen that there is NO WAY QE can be tapered any time soon.  He will not step down as Chairman with a market in free fall.  As much as I hate to say it, this is the best BTFD opportunity we've had in a while.  Furthermore, hedge funds are unwinding their Nikkei positions and I imagine a lot of those proceeds will flow into U.S. equities.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:32 | 3591913 SWRichmond
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Isn't it interesting how everyone intuitively knows that money- and credit-creation must be based on somthing real, hence the basis of commodities for various infinite or near-infinite rehypothecation schemes (copper, gold at 100:1, etc)?  "My leverage is safe as long as it's got some reality behind it, some real good...wait, HOW MUCH leverage?  HOW MANY people own this asset?". 

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:43 | 3591958 Buckaroo Banzai
Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:17 | 3592059 nope-1004
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Financial innovation.  How wonderful.  Party A lends me $1, I'll sell something to B for $2, B takes a 50% commission and uses it as collateral, meanwhile the initial $1 item not only is inflated by 2.5 times (GDP?), but the item is then resold to multiple parties!!!

Now that's growth baby!

Ya, this will end jus' fine.  We truly do have the most unintelligent in society running the banks.  EVERYTHING is a ponzi scheme to skim off of the intial asset, meanwhile the integrity and whereabouts of the asset itself is in question.

Possession will be everything going forward.  If you don't have it near you, on you, or with you, the fuckers will resell title to it.  That's the only mechanism they have left to show "growth".


Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:26 | 3592140 Buzz Fuzzel
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Did you say copper?  I wonder what effect this will have on copper?


Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:44 | 3592213 Acet
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I quote: "the nickel’s electrons are forced into the hydrogen to produce neutrons"

The writter of the article doesn't have even the most basic understanding of the structure of atoms: you can't make neutrons from electrons.

I'll wait for a peer-reviewed scientific paper rather than a fluff piece.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 17:46 | 3593797 espirit
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Should Dr. Copper fail or fall out of favor, one could anticipate the miners to cut back production.

Hmmm... that would mean any by-products of such production could also be reduced.  2+2=4.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 04:27 | 3595151 Acet
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I stand corrected.

Too long since I studied Physics ...

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 12:08 | 3592334 draug
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I give that story a very low chance of being real right now, but if it is then you can forget everything you know about the world economy, the markets and the current recession.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 14:43 | 3593042 zhandax
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If it is real we have little chance of hearing about it.  Oilprice has an article which lists the MIC as the first customer.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:46 | 3591973 SWRichmond
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Let me once again urge readers to read about and understand MEFO bills and Hjalmar Schacht.

Schacht created this system as a temporary method to fund rearming with only one million Reichsmarks in capital.

By 1939, there were 12 billion Reichsmark of mefo bills

That makes Jeff Christian look like a piker.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 18:34 | 3593847 SHRAGS
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The link is broken, this one works


Interesting info...thes quotes got my attention: "they needed a way to fund rearming without leaving a paper trail".  Schacht has later said that the device "enabled the Reichsbank to lend by a subterfuge to the Government what it normally or legally could not do".[1]


Just image if the ESF or some other large entity levered up using similar techniques. 

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:51 | 3591988 dontgoforit
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There's way too much ass to set

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:09 | 3592064 aint no fortuna...
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Wonder how Blythe Masters is sleeping these days...

and here comes the SPX rally as Kevin Henry nails the VIX...

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:33 | 3591916 Dr. Engali
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The fed can never end QE regardless of the rhetoric. They may want to, but they are stuck in a box.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:40 | 3591928 McMolotov
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$3.75 billion POMO today. If it doesn't close green, does that mean the party's over? Or does it just mean we'll get MOAR?

As for Tyler's article, I consider myself relatively intelligent, but this made me feel like a fucking imbecile. I'm sure I had the same look on my face while reading it that a five-year-old would have if Stephen Hawking were trying to explain string theory.

What I got out of it is what I get out of most articles of this type: The financial system is the equivalent of ten men tying their dicks together with string, and if one of them tries to run away, everyone's in for a shitload of pain.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:51 | 3591987 Dr. Engali
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 LOL....nice imagery.  They don't need to close it green, they just need to create the illusion of stability. When the party is over nobody will profit from the downside. As for the article I have to read these twice t grasp everything he is saying. 

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:55 | 3592007 BandGap
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String theory I understand, this shit lost me through sheer convolution. Nothing is straightforward.

Why would ten guys tie their dicks together with a string? Is Dr. Copper involved?

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:05 | 3592054 Rubicon
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"get a cup of coffee first" was enough for me to lie down.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:25 | 3592135 donsluck
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If a financial arrangement cannot be understood by a person of average intelligences, it's fraud.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:54 | 3592256 Going Loco
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During my career I have had involvement with two large deals. One of them was founded on a book (literally) of about 70 or 80 pages, tables of figures, charts, and abstruse calculations. I never did understand it fully. It turned out that nobody else did either. The other deal was done on the back of an envelope, literally. I went into the meeting to discuss the deal and the CEO pulled the envelope out of his pocket. I got the hang of the second deal in about 30 seconds, evaluated it during a one hour discussion, worked out how to implement it in the second hour, and the heads of terms were signed about a fortnight later.

The first deal went very, very sour and only the lawyers profited.

The second deal went very, very well. I daresay the other side wished they had asked for a higher price when the dust had settled, but it wasn't a bad deal for them. It was a very good deal for us. I got a bonus.

This copper rehypothecation scam reminds me of the first deal. It is either a fraud on the banks, or it has been facilittated by the banks to cheat their regulators (assuming they have any). It will undoubtedly go badly wrong for everyone at some point.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 14:55 | 3593113 Thisson
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This copper deal is basically the same as bullion leasing.  They start with copper, trade it for cash, loan out the cash, collect interest payments for the duration of the deal, and then get the cash back and repurchase the copper.  The reason the article is hard to understand is that most of us are not familiar with the terms of these LCs, and the article doesn't clearly explain what they are (except for saying that they are short term fx debt).  It's not really clear why any copper is needed for this transaction, because the parties are just shifting it around in a circle.  I guess the LC is only issued in relation to trading in a tangible, because otherwise they could really be using a peppercorn or any token of imaginary value.

The main problem I have with this article is that it's arguing that copper will drop as a result of SAFE limiting copper financing deals going forward.  I have this problem because, as the article conceeds, one of the solutions for the deal participants is to USE MORE COPPER.  So, in fact, based on the article's own premises, copper could go up!

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 17:27 | 3593752 Panafrican Funk...
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Yeah, I'm actually with you there bud.  Let's all remember what party is recommending a short here.  Now lets all guess what bet they're actually taking.  

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 18:03 | 3593830 post turtle saver
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This comment needs a few hundred more +1 votes. Well done.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 19:08 | 3594001 spencer
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you misunderstood. the "more copper" is because of the loop. like a fractional reserve system.

but otherwise you are correct in assumption of market value - the physical unwind will hit distributors and hedge unwind will likely hit COMEX.

so it is quite likely we see a little spike in price. I would not count on it though.

The opposite happens in gold lately - there is paper liquidation in GLD and massive physical drain on the inventory side - the outcome is a price drop in gold.


But anyway - the article is very good.


Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:36 | 3592182 Meat Hammer
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I drank 2 cups of coffee, still felt like a window-licking retard, and set a land-speed record running to the bathroom.  

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:54 | 3592002 MarsInScorpio
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As always, short, sweet, and clearly understandable. Congrats.




Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:32 | 3592162 t0mmyBerg
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Thanks for a good laugh.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:55 | 3592260 TheEdelman
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He said to grab a cup of coffee.  He should of said to grab a cup of Epinephrine.  I atleast now know what CCF is.  srsly

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 10:17 | 3595735 icanhasbailout
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he financial system is the equivalent of ten men tying their dicks together with string,


Best. Metaphor. Ever.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:25 | 3591868 The Thunder Child
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Unfortunately HFT and POMO can keep this turd afloat indefinitely, or until TPTB are ready to flush.

Would you still walk into a Casino and play if you knew it was rigged? People need to ask the same question with this market, there is no difference....walk away.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:57 | 3592013 BandGap
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You would play with these odds, the real bet would be timing as to when they pulled the plug.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:19 | 3592103 The Thunder Child
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I have morals and I know that every dollar put into this shitshow is one more vote for its continued support.

Trust me I have been tempted many times since I withdrew but I stand firm and keep stacking.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 12:31 | 3592436 Kaiser Sousa
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Exactly...stay the righteous path...
Be in this shithole of a world but not of it....
And yes, always be stacking my friend....

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:14 | 3592085 viahj
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Benanke is a pilot in a blacked out cockpit trying to manage a controlled descent.  One turbulent air bubble may wrench control from his sweaty palms and the decent's glide slope may be turned into Newton's apple. 



Thu, 05/23/2013 - 17:24 | 3593744 icanhasbailout
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He's more like a pilot who deliberately dismantled the normal controls and is trying to land the plane by ordering everyone inside to move left or right, forward or backward.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:33 | 3591917 icanhasbailout
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Kevin Henry is strapped to the trading terminal with a backpack full of zeroes, a forced IV supplying Mountain Dew directly to the bloodstream.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 16:52 | 3593641 SILVERGEDDON

Jesus H. Christ on a crutch.

What about the value of my penny collection ?

There goes the retirement fund.



Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:30 | 3591903 Son of Loki
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Loops make me Dizzy.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:49 | 3591984 dontgoforit
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Just too much tube and not enough holes.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:20 | 3592110 slaughterer
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Copper goes to 1.50 = all markets collapse.  

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 02:59 | 3595104 mkkby
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Nah.  It's just another form of paper that the fed and other CBs will buy at face value when the ponzi unwinds.  Eventually they'll rehypothecate the paper using itself as the collateral.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:10 | 3591852 Possible Impact
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Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:13 | 3591860 LawsofPhysics
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By god they will put a bid under treasuries and close green...    insane.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:26 | 3591889 Dr. Engali
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This surprises you? They will do whatever it takes to maintain the illusion of a stable system. Watch for the smack down in gold before the day is over.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:30 | 3591905 lakecity55
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my fiats are loaded and waiting. dealer on speed dial.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:31 | 3591909 fonzannoon
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Here is a quick insanity test for everyone on here. Do you think a big correction is coming? Do you think it will take place over the course of days/weeks etc? Do you think you will be able to profit from this?

If you answered yes then you are insane and you will go insane waiting for it. We will go from full retard to full corzine in a half a second.


Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:40 | 3591940 Dr. Engali
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The only people who will profit from this when it vaporizes are the people who have real tangible things. Everybody else will be crying in their beer.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:46 | 3591972 LawsofPhysics
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If they have beer, they will have at least one asset.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:26 | 3592138 1C3-N1N3
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Know how to make beer. It will be safer to drink than the water.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 12:38 | 3592474 ParkAveFlasher
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You do know that water can be "boiled"?

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 13:58 | 3592869 1C3-N1N3
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And how long does it stay good before you have to boil it again?

You only boil once for beer, and you're good for at least months, possibly years.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:52 | 3591991 dognamedabu
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Beer is real and tangible

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:03 | 3592043 s2man
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I just found out food has a shelf life.  Now I'm wondering about all that beer and doritos I buried in the back yard...

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:14 | 3591863 thismarketisrigged
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is anyone watching this shit on level 2?


europe is down 2 plus percent across board, asia we know the deal with japan, and even china 2.50 percent, and yet the fucking u.s markets ( ponzi scheme) are fucking down nothing.


every fucking market globally is fucking down big time, yet this joke of a market is going to finish green today, or flat.


u cant make this shit up, u really cant.


when the fiscal cliff shit happened, we rallied despite never selling off because all around the globe they did, but when the globe sells off, we are flat?


fuck u ben, its his 3.5 billion pomo today

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:29 | 3591901 lakecity55
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Amazing, markets dropping around the world, but NY keeps chugging along with Bennie at the helm.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:44 | 3591970 madcows
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It's the Bernanke PUT.  Everyone knows that the market won't be allowed to fall, including the FED.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:22 | 3592121 LongBallsShortBrains
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Almost time to short it. When every motherfucker is positive it can't go down. Almost there. It will be quick. It will be blamed on some rogue trader or another madoff. Maybe some accounting discrepancies in a 2 billion market cap company that will start it. The emails have been coming in... How to beat this market for 5600% in two days. When they promise 9000 % in two days, I'm going short the spoos.

Short copper
Short heating oil

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:44 | 3592214 Meat Hammer
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Thu, 05/23/2013 - 12:02 | 3592284 Going Loco
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@longballsshortbrains: Your nickname is appropriate. As a private individual you will NOT be allowed to profit from short selling if/when they lose control.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:00 | 3592031 hootowl
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Suckers! Suckers and more suckers + bernankenstein & his demon monkeys.



Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:38 | 3591930 buzzsaw99
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btfd that is all

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:57 | 3592015 jayman21
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Where do you think the capital is flowing right now?  Risk on or off?  Dollar Up or Down?  Who in thier right mind would have capital invested in Europe or Japan?  USA is the least ugly at the party right now.  Follow the flow.


FYI - Japan just might bottom soon, but it is a process with confirmation.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 17:38 | 3593780 resurger
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i just love a ponzi

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:17 | 3591865 buzzsaw99
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Half a million tons of it? That's like ten Titanics of solid copper.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 14:33 | 3593005 rustymason
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Yes. That's by ship weight. By volume, you could fit 2.6 of those sales into the Titanic if you also used the space in the the superstructure:

(500,000 tons copper)(2000 lbs/ton) / 560 lbs/ft3 = 1,785,700 ft3 copper.

(4,632,800 ft3 total ship space, volume) / (1,785,700 ft3 copper) = 2.6 copper sales.

If you only used the cargo hold, then the Titanic could only hold 1.4 such copper sales:

2,500,000 ft3 cargo volume / 1,785,700 ft3 copper = 1.4 copper sales.

Please check my math.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:21 | 3591869 Tsunami Wave
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OT: Goldman will be moving their global operations to... Salt Lake City, Utah.

I can't copy the link since I'm on my phone, but it's in the featured videoes section on Bloomberg, and its explained by Blankfein himself. This probably has something to do with its proximity to the NSA's new data center

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:24 | 3591882 Dr. Engali
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I'll post a link for you:


It's curious that they chose the same location as the NSA's data center:

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:05 | 3592052 BigJim
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When you do God's work, you need to be as close to as many different gods as possible.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 14:35 | 3593019 rustymason
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Maybe it's gods' work, not God's work.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 17:05 | 3593686 bank guy in Brussels
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Old joke:

The Pope calls the Cardinals in the Vatican together and tells them, "I have received a message from an angel of God, and there is good news and bad news ...

"The good news," the Pope continues, "Is that Jesus is coming back to earth to see us."

"Wonderful !" exclaim the Cardinals. "To have this miracle in our lifetimes, what a blessing ! ... But, Your Holiness, What can be the bad news, then ?"

"Well," says the Pope, "Jesus IS coming to see us ... But the bad news is, he wants us to meet him in Salt Lake City."

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:56 | 3592210 MarsInScorpio
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Dr. E:


I don’t know why anyone would have any doubt.


Let’s say that the long-running theory of ZH that the oligarchs control the game is in fact correct. Obviously, the guys who own the US FED are among the oligarchs.


The NSA Data Center is the vacuum of all electronic information gathered anywhere in the world. If it is transmitted using electronics, most likely it will end up in the NSA center.


I always wondered why the big corps would allow the feds to gather their info and peer into their business communications and strategies. But reading ZH has given me the answer:


These are best conceptualized as crime families. Crime families meet to divide up the landscape in an effort to avoid wars between them. In order to do that, they have to share a certain amount of information in order to assure the other families that they are playing according to the agreed upon territories and takes.


There are only three circumstances when one crime family moves to take out another. 1) If a family tries to move into its territory, so as a defensive measure the crime family fights the other family; or 2) if the family perceives another family is on the ropes and is therefore susceptible to being wiped out and their territory are the spoils gained; or 3) the market craters and taking out a competing family is necessary to maintain revenues.


Unless one or more of the circumstances for taking out a family exist, the day-to-day relationship is the “status quo,” which is in everyone’s best interest to maintain. Unlike governments, families don’t make money on warring on each other – they let that niche of society expend its best and brightest. So fighting between families is discouraged as an economic matter of preserving leadership and rising stars.


In the managing of the family, information is key. That is why they employ snitches on the street, pay off cops, buy judges, send moles into other families, and they hold their own, and attend each other’s social events.


That said, the NSA center is a valuable piece to have in place for worldwide information gathering valuable to the financial crime families. Here they will know what is going on with other governments, other corporations, other NGOs, who is having affairs, who is gay, who is doing drugs, who is on the ropes, who is going insane, who is a mole, who is double-dealing . . . you get the idea; the NSA is going to be the control center for information on a One World basis.


I’ve often seen remarks in these posts and articles about privacy. They will get your emails (which the FBI maintains no longer requires a warrant), the attachments to your emails, your text messages, your calls on your cell phone, your internet activity, anything and everything electronic.


Privacy? There is none. Zero.


And just as the algos want their servers inside the exchanges, so too will the oligarchs want their crime family’s implementers as close as possible to the data center in order to reduce latency and the chance that communications will be cut off through terrorism or natural disconnects involving weather and equipment malfunctions.


By the way, noting the terrorism aspect, how many Arabs and Blacks will you find in Salt Lake City?


Regardless of the PC insanity over profiling, one look at the history of terrorism tells you that those two racial components are responsible for nearly all of the violent crime and terrorism (Boston and its white Caucasus perps being the <1% exception).


So Goldman gets the data faster and more reliably and significantly decreases the chance of terrorist acts, kidnappings, and violent crime. Win-win.


While almost all of us can agree a Times Square whore has higher morals than Goldman, et. al, the fact is that they have managed to control much of the Western financial world. Give them credit for brains, if not omniscience. But this NSA move shows they are working to correct that lack.


So there you are – and now watch the lemmings of the other crime families follow suit.


That’s the thing about criminals – they all like to gather at the same spot for dining and drinks – after all, there is no honor among thieves.



Thu, 05/23/2013 - 12:52 | 3592505 Renfield
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I hope they all move there, right away. Makes it a lot more obvious to sheep (mind you, they will need to be told), and should any particular sheep get enterprising, the chief criminals and the heart of the spy network will all be conveniently located in one place.

When you have a snake problem, it helps to find the nest. We are watching the snakes build theirs.

I still maintain that all this spying and surveillance, like the illegal invasions that criminal governments prefer to call "war", must be financed. That's why I'm not worried about it long term. Getting thru the short term is the hard part. In but a few years, if these governments still exist, it will be all they can do even to enforce tax collection.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 13:03 | 3592581 Dr. Engali
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+ 1 Good post

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 13:46 | 3592794 Herd Redirectio...
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Yep, crime families.

They are just the most successful ones.  The whole spiel about Capone, Lucky Luciano, Meyer Lansky... Those were never the top guys.  High up, sure.  But more COO than Chairman. 

The Kennedy family was up there, but they got taken down a couple notches.  The Bush family... Right up there.  Clintons.  Big Pharma, Military Industrial Complex, Oil, Banking, Media.  Need not look much further.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 13:53 | 3592838 TheMeatTrapper
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That's probably the single best post I've ever read here. More informative than most of the articles. 

Sun, 05/26/2013 - 14:47 | 3599918 ebear
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"They will get your emails (which the FBI maintains no longer requires a warrant), the attachments to your emails, ........"

OMG!  They are gonna have the biggest LOL Cat collection in the known universe!

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 17:35 | 3593772 DosZap
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It's curious that they chose the same location as the NSA's data center:


Nah, would YOU want to be them when the SHTF?, and caught in the cesspool of Wall Street?.Not me, nor them.NYC will be a guerilla warfare zombie zone.


Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:24 | 3591884 i-dog
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Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:20 | 3591874 machineh
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'... Goldman's Roger Yuan ...'

Hi, Roger, I'm Dave Dollar. Pleased to meetcha!

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:24 | 3591885 El Hosel
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Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:26 | 3591888 fonzannoon
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Those were real prints. It looks like those trades will stick.

Illiquid market.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:23 | 3591881 semperfi
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holy shit!  I thought digital signal processing was extremely difficult to master.  Now I know why all you financial types are richer than a lowly engineer

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:09 | 3592065 s2man
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Yeah, that made my brain hurt.  Thanks, Tyler.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:24 | 3591883 ebworthen
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So will the same be true for Gold, or will Gold be used as an alternative to Copper and get pushed higher?

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:25 | 3591886 williambanzai7
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The modern wonders of financial innovation never cease to amaze. What will the world be like without this?

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:26 | 3591887 GeorgeHayduke
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I want to see the part where the keep the phony US stock market green AND do their tapering nonsense. When the rug is pulled out from under this entire scam called the US financial markets, a whole lot of things are going to fall over and land hard.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:57 | 3592271 waterwitch
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Hey GWH, looks like you need to take a road trip to SLC, UT and deal with Blankfein and the boyz, mano a mano. There's work to be done!


Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:28 | 3591894 RSloane
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So all  these black swans that have been hopping all over everyone's yard and eating all the green shoots seeds for months are now unforseeable? Not if you opened your eyes and looked out the window.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:28 | 3591895 rogeliokh
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Bullish for stocks! Plunge protection team working overtime. GOLD capped under 1400.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:29 | 3591900 ekm
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Same scheme with Crude oil

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:31 | 3591907 rubearish10
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Certainly would've expected some serious crunching of derivitive models from one way momentum strategies. The reasoning for this not to jhappen escapes me. Didn't we have "better than expected"US numbers this morning???? More than someone is barely holding on by skinny teeth!

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:31 | 3591910 eddiebe
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Now let me get this straight.    It's better to carry more sovereign IOU's, especially US paper, than copper?    OK. got it.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:35 | 3591922 Taint Boil
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Wow – lost me …….. but an infinite rehypothecation loop can’t be good. 


Infinite rehypothecation: 

This is when a bank lends money to a borrower and the borrower puts up some collateral for that money. But then that bank can use that collateral in an infinite number of transactions which allows that bank to borrow money from other banks or sources. 

So having the power to create money out of thin air is not enough for them……… 



Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:38 | 3591931 Counterfiat
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Crash imminent?

Have the Chinese done this with gold and silver as well?

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:40 | 3591944 Kreditanstalt
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How complicated!

How does any of this actually PRODUCE WEALTH, if I may ask?  Sign of economic sickness.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 12:29 | 3591947 Widowmaker
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Fuckup Dick Fuld endited yet?

Lehman was nothing but a distraction, like dropping a stone to muddy the water as the systemic fraud was revealed.  A little bit of faggot-smoke at a childrens magic show for fraud.

The bolts on "sound" money are coming apart.  Gyrations in Japan are yet another symptom to be all short this pig (worldwide).

Central banks have decimated efficient markets -- there is no price discovery (gold too)..  

Long hypothecated insanity, short every real asset on the planet.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:14 | 3591990 chindit13
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Took me a while to get through that.  Seems a classic example of complication for the sake of obfuscation, and all to get around rules and regulations that were clearly pointless and ultimately ineffective. So they close the end around, and then they end up with the kind of economy they thought they wanted to have.  Be careful what you wish for, because you might get it.

Upon that the World's Economic Savior is built.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 14:01 | 3592791 anonnn
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1. Back-of-envelope:

Inside information is any data that is a certainty and is known only by extremely few [insiders] and unknown by extremely many [outsiders].  Knowing data before others know it can then be traded for high profit at no risk.

Example: Make-up a story to be disseminated to clients. Prepare to profit from the predicted effect of the story.  Announce [newsletter to clients], to cause clients to buy or sell something.

2. Hide the simple truth [See #1]. Obfuscate and complicate.

Using wordsmiths and the clever strokes of lawyers and salesmen, cause clients to misunderstand both what is really happenning and misunderstand the true risks. Fine-print,  jawboning with a silver-tongue, hidden rules, arbitrary definitions and bribes/kickbacks are among the unlimited ways to succeed.

 Lots of numbers and mathematics help make any presentation seem scientific. That is how "economics" can be falsely made to look  scientific.

3. Action plan:

Create announcement to convince clients to take a buy or sell action. Take advance action that will profit from the known-in-advance client action, then make the announcement, e.g. a "newsletter", which action establishes your "insider" position.

4. Enjoy the profits

5. Rinse and repeat.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 19:39 | 3594087 SHRAGS
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Nicely put.  Simply a more beautiful piece in "the art of propaganda".  Different levels of sophistication for different marks.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:52 | 3591993 rubearish10
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..again, where's the vol? NO FEAR! Normalcy Bias remains in place and many are correct about trial balloon. There's no way our for Mr B.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:57 | 3592016 rosiescenario
rosiescenario's picture, Dr. Copper as a general economic indicator was subject to non-usage demands....


Also, as I recall, doesn't GS have a shit load of aluminum warehoused in Detroit (or some other unlikely place)???

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 10:57 | 3592019 Kreditanstalt
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The daily NY open "gold price" gradual slide is well underway.  Day after day.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:05 | 3592034 falak pema
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we are within the cross hairs of two major financial barrels of the gun that china uses to manage its commercial strategy :

1° Yuan/USD pegging to generate export momentum via artificially pegged rates.

2° Cu metal arbitrage hedging to protect its fiat empire so as attenuate the malinvestment bubbles by giving its surrogate money a hard asset crutch. 

But through abuse of both tacticts now the peg and the crutch are becoming overused liabilities there where they were perceived as shining twin swords.

Market intelligence via perceived distortion caused by these tactics is now obliging attrition to set in; to clean out the fiat yuan bubble in domestic markets. 

Whatever these CB/Centrally planned plays may officially deem as safe, as controlled massively by the all powerful oligarchical apparatchiks of China, the lack of discipline, overt greed and covert book keeping now spill over from shadow into open daylight.

May it be the same all over the world. Nothing like transparency to force the oligarchy world to clean out its augean stables of fiat defecation. 

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:25 | 3592127 thismarketisrigged
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i knew there was no way this sell off was real in the u.s right from the getgo today.


if u  follow on level 2, u could have seen the dow was down like 40 pts at the open and stayed there for like 10 minutes. after that, it finally accelerated a bit lower, but the selling did just not look intense.


also, u realize they had to pump the markets up yesterday at beginning of the day, so in case of sell off, rather than selling off from flat or down say 40-50 pts which would have resulted in a 250 pt plus loss, the overall days loss was only a weak 80 pts on the dow.


now of course, despite the entire global markets selling off mercifully, the ponzi scheme here is fucking flat as if nothing has happened.


i guess china did not contract, i guess the crash in japan did not happen,i along with the entire globe must be dreaming, because in the u.s its another fucking flat day, on a day we should be fucking down 300 plus pts easily.


as i finish typing this, markets are going to turn green.


the u.s has to finish green, because if we sold off, then asia may be down again tonight, but all i will read on cnbc tonight under asia is '' asia stocks set to rebound followed by strong u.s lead''.


fuck this shit, we as zerohedgers must put bernanke in jail, because nothing will happen otherwise.


p.s, i really wish rick santelli was not off this week, because he would be something to listen to with todays action. unfortunately, now all we will here is how fucking resilient this market is

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:28 | 3592146 PiltdownMan
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Good analysis, Tyler!

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:41 | 3592194 t0mmyBerg
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Great piece.  But it has already happened.  I pay fistfuls of pounds sterling for advice in this area and have been waiting.  The massive runup in exchange inventories this spring WAS this process taking place.  By the time Goldman leaks a piece out about it it has run its course.  Not to say copper will not revisit the lows from 10 years ago at 63 cents a pound when measured in cents per pound as they do on Comex (someting like $1400/tonne LME style, much lower than now).  It will.  But when.  Probably not until next year or the year after.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 12:15 | 3592364 Going Loco
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If copper goes to $0.63/$1400 will copper mines close? What effect would such closures have on supply of PMs?

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 11:41 | 3592195 tinsmith
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"We had assumed that deals would continue indefinitely "

We further assume that QE will go on forever and everything will be just fine. What could possibly go wrong?

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 12:02 | 3592286 crzyhun
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10,000 words when one WB pic would've done it.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 12:27 | 3592423 katchum
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Wow, this article is chinese to me...

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 13:09 | 3592611 1000 splendid suns
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So, reledgedly, this is just a complicated and highly technical story about how copper's deflation is to commence? Back up the short bus.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 13:40 | 3592765 ToNYC
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HFT 3-card monte AEP NEE

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 13:47 | 3592798 mt paul
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is Dr copper

the new Chinese gynocologist 

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 13:55 | 3592853 Levadiakos
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If you haven't shorted copper after reading the above.... we suggest you re-read it.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 15:22 | 3593248 1C3-N1N3
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That was a tough read.

So instead of selling paper metal to keep the paper price low, as we've seen in gold and silver, they're passing paper copper around over and over to keep the paper price high -- and now the clamps are coming down on the paper copper kite.


Thu, 05/23/2013 - 16:52 | 3593643 Never One Roach
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Cockroaches quickly lose sweet tooth to survive



"Cockroaches are highly adaptive, and they're doing pretty well in the arms race with us," said North Carolina State University entomologist Jules Silverman, discoverer of the glucose aversion in that Florida kitchen during a bait test.

The findings illustrate the evolutionary prowess that has helped make cockroaches so hard to stamp out that it is jokingly suggested they could survive nuclear war.



Thu, 05/23/2013 - 17:01 | 3593672 q99x2
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Man you guys should offer a degree of completion for people that read the entire article. Good but now I'm hungry.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 17:18 | 3593721 DeficitAlchemist
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My take from awhile back we will trade through 260

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 17:26 | 3593727 virgilcaine
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There's nothing left to inflate. Why I call the upcoming post Bernank period.... The "Alpo Era."

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 18:11 | 3593849 Herdee
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And you thought the New York,Chicago and the London Futures Markets were the only ones to set up huge ponzi type rehypothecation scams?Let's had Shanghai just so the gansters in China can take down the rest of the world crooks with them.Cheers to China!!!Teach those bloody westerners the new style of scamming.

Thu, 05/23/2013 - 19:19 | 3594025 spencer
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The only question is how the price will be affected.

The COMEX inventory was between 80 and 100 thousands short tonnes for a long time and currently stands around 81 so the price from inventory increase may be affected less than from the hedge unwind.

Other than that - the LC issue was targetted by BOC for at least 1 year now - and the process of unwind might have started already.

Comparing that to gold - the end result may be even opposite.

See GLD liquidation and gold comex inventory.

Price falls despite a huge physical demand.

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