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"Dead Cat Bounce" Or "Pause That Refreshes"
While the off-the-lows mentality of today's market performance was heralded by most as a signal that the BTFD'rs are back, we gently remind them that the Nikkei (futures) did not bounce at all... In fact S&P futures bounced to a rather eerily perfect 38.2% Fibonacci retracement of the overnight plunge and then faded into the close. All the major indices managed to get back to unchanged on the day (but the S&P 500 was the last to make it and instantly turned around once it did). Credit markets opened gap wider and did not bounce back anything like stocks. Treasuries sold off modestly from their pre-opening levels then drifted lower in yield into the close (ending down 2-3bps on the day but up 6-7bps on the week). The USD weakened most of the day and commodities gained on the day with gold and silver now up over 2% on the week. VIX fell from the open to the close but ended the day higher as we suspect hedges were lifted and exposure reduced into the bounce.
Dead Cat Bounce? 38.2% retrace...
The S&P 500 managed to get back perfectly unchanged before fading away into the close...
Stocks played catch down to credit...
Still a way to go to catch down to the hedgers...
Good day for commodities in general...
helped by USD weakness (as EUR strength and JPY strength - repatriation? - held it down)...
Where's the bounce?
Charts: Bloomberg and Capital Context
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The one to watch is crude oil.
I regained all its losses during Obama's speech.
so what does that tell you?
a North American energy cartel has formed. "it's not good for North America either."
If you do not stop QE, real economy is screwed and you mister pres will get all the blame
or he could just keep putting out bullshit data saying otherwise and have the msm parrot it all day long.
He's getting the real data. He's clueless, but not an idiot.
QE cannot be stopped. Bond yeilds would spike and the gov/treasury would have to crap the bag.
best investment would be to get the fuck out
Not many bonds left to buy.
If they buy everything, the system will run out of collateral.
The system is based on collateral, it can't exist without collateral.
plenty of bonds to buy, the gov is overspending by 1tril + every year
Bottom line:
Crude oil in super inflation and real economy dead.
Financial system is a derivative or energy and real economy.
There is absolutely no solution but a collapse.
I always look for your comments, like them. My opinion is they will stop qe, b/c they are force to, they will save the $.
Quite humbled. Thx a lot.
I totally agree. If they continue QE, world will continue with dollar bypassing, hence multicountry currency swaps.
That is a disaster for the dollar.
dude, i completely agree it is doomed for collapse......just saying, the cannot stop QE, and if they do, they will reverse the decision FAST or the collapse will be iminent.
The FED cannot save the economy this time. Collapse no later than 2017 from which I expect a new government to officially arise. Already the transition is active. Just watch POMO, that's your schedule. Taper hints to prop the $ and kill gold are just BS until the schedule shows change. History says, zero interest, lots of printing and then raise rates cratering the economy, transfering real wealth in exchange for thin-air banker's notes. The next great fleecing is the big one, yet at the same time, the population has never been so aware of the oligarchy and its methods. Currently, the Government is helping to awaken the population by revealing its tyranny as it struggles to maintain control over an elightened and angry citizenry. Classic....
+10. They would want enough people pissed off that it sends the trouble makers out on the street creating havoc, thereby justifying brute force and militarization of police forces to all the others that don't care or those that would acquiesce anything to keep their jobs.
Oh yea, that cash on the sidelines collateral, which needs to be repaitraited somehow by corps and then the next leg of the recovery is global growth all the way. And it's not even getting old yet.
It's the real economy that empowers the finnancial system.
If financial system takes over, it suffocates the real economy and it inevitably dies.
Financial system has died. We just need a funaral, quote soon.
ekm you are right about collateral. it all comes back to collateral. why would they debate the "signal" to collapse it second by second...what does it matter? Just let the fucker go.
I think the executive order to allow collapse is on the desk and about to be signed, if not already signed and process and timing is being guaged DAILY.
They will not collapse this thing without some external force to blame it on. When they collapse it they don't want the masses coming after them. Unless of course it's their plan that we take each other out and then they come in and mop up the rest.
Doc I wonder if you and ekm have a slightly different take. I think you are talking about the big one. I think ekm is talking about the system burping up a PD or two and then carrying on.
That may be the case. It's hard to tell. But I don't believe they can do that without causing total chaos and collapsing the whole thing. Lehman was not a very big and look at what happened when they took that out. Imagine what will happen if they try taking out MS.
The next institution that fails won't get bailed out. The minute people see for themselves that their deposits are truly no longer insured we get the bank run to end all bank runs. I don't see how we play on either.
The only part about ekm's overall premise that I wonder about is the idea that all this is to drop crude so energy prices boost the economy. The collateral damage that comes along with that does more damage in my opinion than current crude prices.
I agree. Sure fuel prices will collapse, but the people with money are five years older and five years closer to retirement. If chaos hits the markets again you will see their wallets tighten up even more. The gains with lower fuel will be more Han offset by the loss of economic activity.
Doc, there are no solutions in life, there are only choices.
It's either or.
People close to retirement are screwed either way and those can't oppose much the gov.
Whereas unemployed youngsters are dangerous people. Remember Paris 2 years ago, London last year and Stockholm right now.
Youth riots
You seem to forget the massive run-up in oil prices 2007 - 2008 before QE programs were official.
Can't stop QE.
Can't stop peak oil.
Stop QE = real economy completely collapses now.
Continue QE = real economy completely collapses later.
If the Saudis were telling the truth about how much cheap oil they really have left, oil would at least double or triple in price.
There's no such a thing as peak oil. There's plenty of oil.
However, I ve already burned all necessary nerves to debate about this subject.
Theoretically, we and all plant matter will be turned into oil and other fossil fuels several million years from now.
So, in that sense there's no such thing as peak oil.
It's not something that's debatable. You either accept reality or deny it. You've already had it explained to you, yet you deny it.
Sorry. I've spent far too much energy on this subject.
Can't continue debate.
So, your energy in regards to this subject has peaked.
Interesting.
I know it's much easier to blame corrupt, evil, greedy politicians and bankers. But, they're really the same as they've always been.
You imply that high oil prices are due to QE, yet they've been higher before QE began.
You're not debating. You're denying.
You spent so much energy because you argued against the facts instead of with them. There's no plentiful oil deposits & the challenge is always open to SHOW where on the globe those deposits are - who found them, how big are they, WHERE are they. No one's ever come up with the answers when challenged. That includes you.
The Saudis have plenty of "cheap" oil. The question is, will it be available for US $?
Peak oil is a catchphrase; the distate the sellers of oil have for those green pieces of paper is the real problem, has been since the 80's.
Hence the weirdness you see with gold and the derivatives market, hence where we are today.
That's the duty of US Nacy and Air Force.
That's why 3000 US soldiers died in Iraq, for the oil.
For the petrodollar to be more specific.
Agreed, my thought exactly. It's never been about the supply of oil, just what is accepted in return for it.
Supply changes cause linear price moves; less the lies and the murder and the manufactured conflict and chaos, you would have seen exponential moves, years ago.
Then why are they looking into offshore drilling? That's not cheap.
Even a stupid Wikipedia chart shows interesting jumps in proven reserves.
Why did the Texas oil man George Bush question whether or not they could increase production in 2008?
Of course they will keep taking US dollars, in exchange for US military protection of their regime. Until the situation gets desperate, anyway, and their own people become antsy and want to riot.
I'm the one who should say I'm not going to debate it anymore. It would save me a lot of grief. I often wish I didn't understand it.
Then your wish is granted, at least partially, based on your comments.
You are looking at this backwards - as if the Saudis are the ones worried about their people getting antsy (!)
No, they have only been playing along this long because doing so allowed the scheme to last as long as it has.
Taking US $ was never for military protection - it was to provide cover for all those ounces they were receiving through the back door.
Too late. Real economy is screwed either way. The only thing left to determine is who and how much.
Is the Tuesday ramp coming on Wednesday next week?
according to the POMO schedule...biggest of next week is Friday but Wednesday isn't bad...
Wed, May 29, 2013 $2.75 - $3.50 billion
Fri, May 31, 2013 $4.25 - $5.25 billion (2nd largest POMO of the month behind Fri, May 17, 2013 $4.75 - $5.75 billion)
So is it black friday tomorrow?
Black Monday?
Memorial Day
Doubtful. I bought some UVXY Dec. near the money calls. Since I never make money in the market, you are all saved at least until the middle of December, lol.
It seems obvious Japan is picking op dimes in front of the steamroller.
They had no choice. Abe and Kuroda know that the debt is out of control. If they didnt do QE bonds would be spiking now anyway.
They will try and saturate the JGB market to keep yields low.
Will not work, but it is thier only option to keep things on a steady decline.
anyone who understands compounding interest knows, fact, they a screwed. I am sure abe knows too
There was no bounce for the Nikkei because it took the river pig plunge. It might experience a transient bloating (blobbing up), but will soon be the source of a nauseating stench. Its fate is to drift downstream, being picked apart by scavengers, bottom feeders, and rot.
Is it even possible for Maria Bartiromo to say "buy on the dip mentality" more times per hour then right now? Is it some sort of code? Perhaps, it is her attempt to hypnotize folks?
For god's sake, quit with the whole parrot thing, you useless yutz! Good grief!
And BTW...it is my experience that when something rises 85% in an straight line, and then suddenly crashes 9% in one day...you DON'T buy that dip.
"Do you think the buy on the dip mentality will come through in Japan, and the buy on the dip mentality remains here in the US." Maria Bartiromo
Gee...I guess if you say it like that, 50 times, why....sure! Thanks Maria...I was so close to establishing a sell on the dip mentality. Whew!
I wonder if this applies to the buy on the dripping ice cream cone on a hot day mentality? Or perhaps, a buy on the skip and whistling past the the graveyard mentality? How about a buy on the dipshit mentality? Maybe its all about a buy on the dipstick when checking oil mentality?
Good grief! Is she actually a parrot? Squaaaaaaaaaawk....buy on the dip mentality....aaaaaaaaawk.....pretty bird pretty bird....
Maybe we should establish a "sell the shit out of everything mentality" now that pure, unequivocal mental retardation seems to be the daily message from the BlowHorn [CNBC]?
@Cdad
All indices closed the opening gap than reversed back down. Bearish.
Agreed...despite the BlowHorn's glowing praise for the "resilient market." But I think you might have to take it up with Maria Bartiromo though...buy on the dip mentality buy on the dip mentality buy on the dip mentality.......
Off topic:
Word on the street is former General Wesley Clark is dead as is USAF General Brown was ground dead while investigating missing Nukes.
Any confirmation?
Try emailing Wesley
info@clark04.com
Looks like Brown is dead along with his wife and dog while piloting his Cessna.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/air-force-general-wife-killed-plane-crash/story...
Thanks Thunder,
Wesley's alive, Brown's dead. Another strange plane crash again. The many.
Very sad to see. I doubt it was pilot error and could be the age of the Cessna 210:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_210
the funny thing is they were talking on cnbc during closing bell , asking if japans market overnight will effect the u.s market?''
well lets see. japan fucking sold off 7 percent or 1000 points overnight and our markets of course were flat as a pancake.
so jackasses on cnbc, i dont know, answer the question, do u really think our markets trade off japan?
our markets are immuned to everything, and its frightning. the entire globe sells off, and here we are flat.
its not ''people'' buying the dips, its the fucking fed backstopping every sell off. fuck u fed and obama
US treasuries sold off on the news. Forget equities for the time being over here as well. "debt...front and center." Bullard was too quick in my view to turn dovish. events must be allowed to unfold...as they always do.
Dr Hans Reinhardt.... 'WE ARE GOING THROUGH'
A madman rides his crazed paradigm into oblivion..
cue the music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=IJaypC51Dds
They were actually debating this afternoon on Maria "G6" Bartiromo's segment whether or not the Markets are affected by the FED.
LOL
The markets are the FED
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You make an excellent point EKM. Thank you for your contribution to the discussion.
everybody shut up Bartiroma is about to talk about the possibility of cash on the sidelines coming into the market.
Yeah, more like CRASH on the sidelines. Get it? Get it? Cash? CRASH?
Damn, I'm good.
That's a splat, not a bounce.
Bass has it right...
BOJ to make suprise announcement to enlarge their QE to enable them to maintain JGB rates...get ready. Too many JGB holders selling overwhelming BOJ's current Yen set aside for mopping up JGB's. And as soon as BOJ makes this announcement, even more huge JGB holders will begin selling again neccesitating an even bigger QE...serious poo poo.
Could / would BOJ set selling limits to effectively trap bond holders in positions???
Please let this be true
Truly believe this is the big one...the death spiral upon which each BOJ counter moves neccessitates even greater Yen devaluation until they own the JGB market. Try and expain how absent forbidding selling JGB's this can go otherwise...and this Zimbabwean experieriment will offset Nikkei gains w/ a crashing Yen. You are looking at the Japanese implosion...3...2...1...
Just like Weimar Germany, the Japanese have no other option than hyperinflation. They in power have made their conscious choice. And just like Weimar, those with assets outside Japan, outiside the Yen will do quite nicely while the slate is swept clean for the rest.
Sunday night BOJ announcement??? don't be suprised.
The Algo's kicked right back in and bought on the dip - beware of the machines especially when 1/2 of the market is already on the beach at the Hamptons enjoying the extended holiday!
Buttiromo is asking some guy " how do you protect yourself ?" I would think with all her experience on the Citi plane she would know the answer to that.
"the other Bank of Japan." there might have to be a "New Japan" after this i agree. not someone who believes in short selling...think it immoral and unethical in the extreme...no one profits when one profits buy forcing losses upon another. this is not the Vatican however but Wall Street. "this is what they live for." the last killing they made did strike me as being kinda close to home of course...
What she's asking is how do I keep all my stocks but not be affected in horrendous drops in my stock prices? It's the old how do I have my cake and eat it too question that bankers have solved through fraud.
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"Jissbon®" -- some guy
"It's dead, Jim."
"Yes, I can clearly see that, you fucking putz! Just make it bounce! At all costs. Full speed ahead! Give her moar!"
So good!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0yXqU-w9U0
Nikkei crashes over 7%.
Dow responds and crashes 0.08%
Nikkei crash is almost bullish.
More FM AM - mirrors and magic.
So why didn't the Dow soar today with the plunging dollar, and why are silver and gold up again?
bad economic news makes the "market" go up, whereas shitty news, just makes it flat......uh huh!
Kick it again, come on one more time.
"It's dead, I'm telling you"
Go ahead...kick it
"I told you, I'm not kicking it anymoar. Its done. We rode it as hard as we could for as long as we could. It's not coming back."
Well can you maybe prop it up or something? Put a light stick in its ass and make it glow? Something to make it look like its still alive?
Stupid fucker on CNBS is recommending that take advantage of the 5 to 10% pullbacks. What an idiot, they won't even let the market pull back 1/2 of a percent. Bartiromo just said " horrendous volatility"......unbelievable.
...
"Breathe deep the gathering gloom,
Watch lights fade from every room.
Bedsitter people look back and lament,
Another day's useless energy spent...
"But we decide which is right. And which is an illusion? "
~ Moody Blues
Eurasia fade and the always late pomo kicker.
No pomo tomorrow. Maybe the likely disappointment in durable goods will be enough to to cause the taper fear to recede. Oh, wait! The fed's mandate isn't robust durable goods, it's employment, and, for us realists, its the stock indices -- all of which are doing quite well at the expense of the prudent.
when was the last time market closed red on Friday?
i dont remember the actual date, but i remember it was the day after ibm reported its earnings, and they missed very badly, and i remember that despite ibm being down like 10 percent intra day and having the largest pct accounting for the dow, i remember being bewildered how the dow was only red 10 pts that day ( u know what, i think it was the friday they caught the boston terrorists)
lost a whopping 10 pts on the dow, massive selloff in this market
If there were such a thing as a "tradability" measure, today, as most of the 2Q thus far, would receive the lowest rating.
Given the afternoon dump yesterday, normally reliable signposts such as Wilder's DMI/ADX "lied" to less experienced traders not yet trained to ignore its pegged nature after a multi-sigma move, and despite the media-invented notion of the "big reversal", today's action was largely boring and useless, save for the three 15-minute bars beginning the 10, 11 and 12 0'clock hours (EST) that essentially comprised all of the real movement (a similar 2:00 bar just got us back to near the highs, and was expected). Given how 'clean' these moves were, with few wicks of note on the candles, one can assume it was a typical top-of-the-hour load-up algo that perhaps a single large institution implemented, while everyone else yawned and watched from the sidelines, with faint, half-hearted shouts of "you go, girl" from those not already in Spanish siesta mode, and chides of "Really? Well, whatever ..." from those bothering to lift an eyelid to see what the commotion was about.
Sold as a big triumph of the 'invincible' bulls, today was more like the first hole on a miniature golf course.