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America's Bubble Economy Is Going To Become An Economic Black Hole

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Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,

What is going to happen when the greatest economic bubble in the history of the world pops?  The mainstream media never talks about that.  They are much too busy covering the latest dogfights in Washington and what Justin Bieber has been up to.  And most Americans seem to think that if the Dow keeps setting new all-time highs that everything must be okay.  Sadly, that is not the case at all.

Right now, the U.S. economy is exhibiting all of the classic symptoms of a bubble economy.  You can see this when you step back and take a longer-term view of things.  Over the past decade, we have added more than 10 trillion dollars to the national debt.  But most Americans have shown very little concern as the balance on our national credit card has soared from 6 trillion dollars to nearly 17 trillion dollars.

Meanwhile, Wall Street has been transformed into the biggest casino on the planet, and much of the new money that the Federal Reserve has been recklessly printing up has gone into stocks.  But the Dow does not keep setting new records because the underlying economic fundamentals are good.  Rather, the reckless euphoria that we are seeing in the financial markets right now reminds me very much of 1929.  Margin debt is absolutely soaring, and every time that happens a crash rapidly follows.

But this time when a crash happens it could very well be unlike anything that we have ever seen before.  The top 25 U.S. banks have more than 212 trillion dollars of exposure to derivatives combined, and when that house of cards comes crashing down there is no way that anyone will be able to prop it back up.  After all, U.S. GDP for an entire year is only a bit more than 15 trillion dollars.

But most Americans are only focused on the short-term because the mainstream media is only focused on the short-term.  Things are good this week and things were good last week, so there is nothing to worry about, right?

Unfortunately, economic reality is not going to change even if all of us try to ignore it.  Those that are willing to take an honest look at what is coming down the road are very troubled.  For example, Bill Gross of PIMCO says that his firm sees "bubbles everywhere"...

We see bubbles everywhere, and that is not to be dramatic and not to suggest they will pop immediately. I just suggested in the bond market with a bubble in treasuries and bubble in narrow credit spreads and high-yield prices, that perhaps there is a significant distortion there. Having said that, it suggests that as long as the FED and Bank of Japan and other Central Banks keep writing checks and do not withdraw, then the bubble can be supported as in blowing bubbles. They are blowing bubbles. When that stops there will be repercussions.

And unfortunately, it is not just the United States that has a bubble economy.  In fact, the gigantic financial bubble over in Japan may burst before our own financial bubble does.  The following is from a recent article by Graham Summers...

First and foremost, Japan is the second largest bond market in the world. If Japan’s sovereign bonds continue to fall, pushing rates higher, then there has been a tectonic shift in the global financial system. Remember the impact that Greece had on asset prices? Greece’s bond market is less than 3% of Japan’s in size.

 

For multiple decades, Japanese bonds have been considered “risk free.” As a result of this, investors have been willing to lend money to Japan at extremely low rates. This has allowed Japan’s economy, the second largest in the world, to putter along marginally.

 

So if Japanese bonds begin to implode, this means that:


1)   The second largest bond market in the world is entering a bear market (along with commensurate liquidations and redemptions by institutional investors around the globe).

2)   The second largest economy in the world will collapse (along with the impact on global exports).


Both of these are truly epic problems for the financial system.

And of course the entire global financial system is a giant bundle of debt, risk and leverage at this point.  We have never seen anything like this in world history.  When you step back and take a good, hard look at the numbers, they truly are staggering.  The following statistics are from one of my previous articles entitled "Why Is The World Economy Doomed? The Global Financial Pyramid Scheme By The Numbers"...

-$70,000,000,000,000 - The approximate size of total world GDP.

-$190,000,000,000,000 - The approximate size of the total amount of debt in the entire world.  It has nearly doubled in size over the past decade.

-$212,525,587,000,000 - According to the U.S. government, this is the notional value of the derivatives that are being held by the top 25 banks in the United States.  But those banks only have total assets of about 8.9 trillion dollars combined.  In other words, the exposure of our largest banks to derivatives outweighs their total assets by a ratio of about 24 to 1.

-$600,000,000,000,000 to $1,500,000,000,000,000 - The estimates of the total notional value of all global derivatives generally fall within this range.  At the high end of the range, the ratio of derivatives to global GDP is more than 21 to 1.

The financial meltdown that happened back in 2008 should have been a wake up call for the nations of the world.  They should have corrected the mistakes that happened so that nothing like that would ever happen again.  Unfortunately, nothing was fixed.  Instead, our politicians and the central bankers became obsessed with reinflating the system.  They piled up even more debt, recklessly printed tons of money and kicked the can down the road for a few years.  In the process, they made our long-term problems even worse.  The following is a recent quote from John Williams of shadowstats.com...

The economic and systemic solvency crises of the last eight years continue. There never was an actual recovery following the economic downturn that began in 2006 and collapsed into 2008 and 2009. What followed was a protracted period of business stagnation that began to turn down anew in second- and third-quarter 2012. The official recovery seen in GDP has been a statistical illusion generated by the use of understated inflation in calculating key economic series (see Public Comment on Inflation). Nonetheless, given the nature of official reporting, the renewed downturn likely will gain recognition as the second-dip in a double- or multiple-dip recession.

 

What continues to unfold in the systemic and economic crises is just an ongoing part of the 2008 turmoil. All the extraordinary actions and interventions bought a little time, but they did not resolve the various crises. That the crises continue can be seen in deteriorating economic activity and in the panicked actions by the Federal Reserve, where it proactively is monetizing U.S. Treasury debt at a pace suggestive of a Treasury that is unable to borrow otherwise.

And there are already lots of signs that the next economic downturn is rapidly approaching.

For example, corporate revenues are falling at Wal-Mart, Proctor and Gamble, Starbucks, AT&T, Safeway, American Express and IBM.

Would revenues at Wal-Mart be falling if the economy was getting better?

U.S. jobless claims hit a six week high last week.  We aren't in the danger zone yet, but once they hit 400,000 that will be a major red flag.

And even though we are still in the "good times" relatively speaking, the federal government is already talking about tightening welfare programs.  In fact, there are proposals in Congress right now to make significant cuts to the food stamp program.

If food stamps and other welfare programs get cut, that is going to make a lot of people very, very angry.  And that anger and frustration will get even worse when the next economic downturn strikes and millions of people start losing their jobs and their homes.

What we are witnessing right now is the calm before the storm.  Let us hope that it lasts for as long as possible so that we can have more time to prepare.

Unfortunately, this bubble of false hope will not last forever.  At some point it will end, and then the pain will begin.

 

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Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:06 | 3597018 falak pema
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beautiful; cos black is beautiful. And holes are exciting. 

Why do we have such awesome titles posted here like we were in the Psycho movie behind that curtain?

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:01 | 3597158 max2205
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V MA and DFS should be good 90% down shorts when it breaks

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:12 | 3597182 James_Cole
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They should have corrected the mistakes that happened so that nothing like that would ever happen again.  Unfortunately, nothing was fixed. 

On balance it actually worked out quite well for the banks, what was there to 'fix' in their eyes?

Potentially the next crash could work out even better for them. 

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:33 | 3597217 cougar_w
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No kidding. They probably can't wait for the next leg down. Hell, with all the Bennie Bux they've got rat-holed away they could buy half the assets of the nation at 5 cents on the dollar in a really bad crash, and end up holding more land and serfs than Louis XIV ever dreamed of. We'll have to call him "Your Worship Master Dimon of Morgan" without vomiting in our mouths. Man that's gonna be tough right there.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:55 | 3597256 ratso
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Yea right, the sky is falling.  Get real you guys

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 21:45 | 3597609 narapoiddyslexia
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The natural hedger always considers both sides. For example, after-tax corporate profits are higher than their historical norm because corporations pay less in taxes than was historically the case. In 1951, corporations paid almost nearly half of profits in taxes. In 1965, paid more than thirty per cent. Today, they pay twenty per cent. So maybe corporate profits are not in as much of a bubble as thought. Just a suggestion... 

If corporate profits are not in a bubble, then all the knock-on effects are also, maybe, not in a bubble.

Also, most of the S&P is internationals and they get only about half their profits from the US. To this extent, they are buffered from local or even regional variations in economic behavior.

The truth is that ever since Margaret Thatcher, the world has become a place much more favorable for corporations. So maybe this time it really is different. Its worth a hedge, either way, of course.

Sat, 05/25/2013 - 01:27 | 3597958 underman
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Bennie & Dimon will be first in line at the gallows. 

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:20 | 3597201 Jekyll_n_Hyde_Island
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"What we are witnessing right now is the calm before the storm.  Let us hope that it lasts for as long as possible so that we can have more time to prepare."

  C'mon Tylers.  You sound like a Doomsday Prepper, or a bearded camel holding a sign that says "the end is near."

 

  There are indices and denominators at work that hold all this in place.  A Republican will get in office, boost our GDP to help our balance sheet, start a war with another county who is committing crimes against humanity, and we'll be fine. 

  Don't get me wrong.

 

  There may be hard times when some of the ceiling collapses -- but we'll rebuild it.  A big part of hedge is protection and insurance, and our country is hedged and insured.  It's why all of you loons who are 100% physical in your investments have IQ's around 110 and know just enough to be sure that smarter people are running things.

 

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:34 | 3597220 mac_daddy
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If a Republician could not win the last election, all things considered, there will never be another Republican President; especially when 15 million illigelas that sat the last election out will be elligable to vote.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 19:23 | 3597326 onewayticket2
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he was a Massachusetts republican, too....that's a democrat in 25 States....

 

it's over for the conservatives and for fiscal sanity.  sorry.  how on earth does sanity rule in an age of free stuff and 15MM new voters who crave it....

 

game over.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 22:39 | 3597725 Popo
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Precisely right. Until we have a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution which states that we can only spend as much as we raise in taxes in any given year, then democracy and financial responsibility will forever be fundamentally incompatible.

The free-shit-army will always vote for more free shit, regardless of our capacity to afford it.

Sat, 05/25/2013 - 01:32 | 3597962 underman
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Still hoping?  No chance for balanced budget, ever.  Reset.

Sat, 05/25/2013 - 03:17 | 3598013 zhandax
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All a balanced budget amendment would do today is guarantee your taxes go up.

Sat, 05/25/2013 - 12:47 | 3598431 ultraticum
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None of the grass roots would ever vote for a Mass-a-two-shits republican "running to the center".  If republicans put up an alternative, they could win.  If they put up another McCain or Obamney, or any other centrist fascist, they won't.   I will NEVER vote for a constitution-hating centrist Repugnicon - and I think there are a lot of people like me.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 20:31 | 3597481 roadhazard
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Repubicans need to be very careful how you run that mouth. Being assholes 24/7/365 ain't getting it. You have to show that you can produce something beside blaming the other guy for Everything. Can you dig it... no.

 

 

Sat, 05/25/2013 - 03:19 | 3598015 zhandax
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It works for the douchebag in the White House.....

Sat, 05/25/2013 - 03:39 | 3598021 The Navigator
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@roadHazard

1 - please change your handle to roadKill

2 - It ain't about RePubs or DemoRats - we are all RoadKill, you, me and every serf of the Empire.

It's set up that we argue about minutae while THEY rush off with our wealth.

Pay no attention to the bullshit minor stories and look at the forest considering all the trees.

Hope to see you on the other side, while hoping to make it to the other side myself.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 21:50 | 3597622 illyia
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It wass the sppellling...

Sat, 05/25/2013 - 08:28 | 3598144 Herodotus
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At some point, the Army will make their move.  They will cancel any such elections, put the President and Congress under protective custody, and rule by decree.

 

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 19:58 | 3597401 NoDebt
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"C'mon Tylers.  You sound like a Doomsday Prepper, or a bearded camel holding a sign that says "the end is near.""

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:05 | 3597020 CH1
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Reality's been absent for a LONG time round here.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:10 | 3597039 knukles
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Meee-shell, my belle...la la la la la la la la alhhh la ah la lah lah la

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:16 | 3597056 emsolý
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Please do not worry.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:18 | 3597062 NotApplicable
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Yeah, next thing ya know, people will be quoting Graham Summers and think nothing of it!

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:22 | 3597071 augustusgloop
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Short reality.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:34 | 3597219 epwpixieq-1
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Actually, long reality with real knowledge and skills, and short the buble most of the others perceive as reality.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:02 | 3597163 Stuck on Zero
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When the system blows reality will set in very quickly.  Unrealistic expectations will vanish.  People will go back to work doing something useful instead of consuming from the productive.  Americans will focus on their kids instead of their BMWs.  Obesity will diminish.  Factories will reopen.  Inequality will diminish.  All good things. 

 

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:14 | 3597185 James_Cole
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When the system blows reality will set in very quickly.  Unrealistic expectations will vanish. 

Right, because economic collapses generally lead to people reacting in a rational way and 'accepting reality.' 

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:27 | 3597210 n8dawg84
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I agree that those are things that will happen eventually and so I look forward to that.  Gotta try to see the silver lining somehow

Sat, 05/25/2013 - 02:45 | 3597997 Zwelgje
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Collapse is simply too good to be true.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:07 | 3597174 freewolf7
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Reality's been here all along.
It's just illogical and uncomfortable.
And then there's the cruelty factor,
i.e. that those in power allow this.
Recognizing them as purely simple
sociopaths allows you to get them,
but it's still difficult to accept the
ass-raping. And I don't.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:16 | 3597190 thisandthat
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Reality is so overrated... plus, what's it got to do with anything, anyway?...

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 19:12 | 3597303 Seeking Aphids
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it is that annoying thing between naps......

Sat, 05/25/2013 - 01:33 | 3597965 underman
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It's gotten to the point that I say, "It's a cartoon world", at least once a day.

Sat, 05/25/2013 - 12:42 | 3598422 Prince Eugene o...
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This is truly Bizarro World. Seriouly.

Sat, 05/25/2013 - 01:38 | 3597971 underman
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We think we're losing our minds now?  WW1 and WW2 - they absolutely lost their marbles!  People we're downright cuckoo - couldn't make heads or tails of anything.  What was real or not real!  The art & literature we're outstanding in that age!! 

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:06 | 3597021 Flakmeister
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It ends when the US cannot buy the oil it wants with the dollars it prints...

Until then you have nothing but fear mongering crap like the above....

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:11 | 3597044 spinone
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Dollars buy oil because we have the perception of the projection of power in the mideast.  If that perception is undone, then the problems will start.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmtE6Zgd-kc

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:01 | 3597118 Flakmeister
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No argument from me on this point....

And it is completely consistent with what I said...

Sat, 05/25/2013 - 06:49 | 3598072 espirit
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You guys must have a cadre of serial junkers, but for the record I upvoted the above three posts.

Sun, 05/26/2013 - 10:47 | 3599630 Flakmeister
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Some people here are simply jealous...

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:14 | 3597186 cougar_w
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But but -- I thought we were going to become the worlds largest oil exporter!

On related news: Cali refiners are now refusing to back an oil pipeline out of Texas into Los Angeles, and are sticking with railway for oil transport instead. Rail is expensive, but they don't want to get into any 30 years contracts for an oil pipeline when the Texas oil is mostly --- wait for it --- fracked. Yeah, refiners know what the frack is going on and they are not buying it. If they sign a 30 year deal to buy piped oil from Texas, and the fracking industry implodes before then, they are probably on the hook to buy whatever oil the Texans can shove into the pipe at their end at whatever price it takes.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:07 | 3597024 krispkritter
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We already have a (dark appearing descriptive here) 'hole'...in the White House.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:18 | 3597060 I am more equal...
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Fill in the (dark appearing descriptive here) blank?

 

Black ass

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:49 | 3597128 azzhatter
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He's a fucking slimy asshole regardless of color

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:22 | 3597204 Ban KKiller
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Don't forget "puppet".

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 20:02 | 3597412 NoDebt
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Gotta be with that many people in his administration not telling him about stuff. They know if they did he'd stop that crap in a cold minute.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 22:56 | 3597754 Milestones
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All you fine banker men, you jus sit thair in de shade where it be nice and cool and I go out in the hot sun and I shore go an step n fetchit fo ya. Yes sire ree I shore will. 

Our half breed punk president.            Milestones

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:10 | 3597034 aleph0
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That $700 Billion was the Key to Pandoras Box.

They should have kept it closed and BK'd all those TBTFs 5 years ago.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:13 | 3597050 knukles
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I hate to inform you all (not really, 'cause I think it material and funny,,, or maybe just amusing) that of the Seven Deadly Sins which Pandora let Escape form the Box, there was an Eighth, Hope.
Hope.
In essence, Hope is a sin as it is neither a plan nor solution, not an action nor anything other than a promise, a vacuous promise.

Hope and Change....

LOL

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:49 | 3597132 prains
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Rope and Chains

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:16 | 3597189 cougar_w
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"Hope" is what keeps people from doing anything constructive about a bad situation.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:32 | 3597216 Tulpa
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Far from it.  Hope is not the same as faith; it actually encourages people to fix problems.

Despair on the other hand does stop people from trying to fix problems.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:51 | 3597245 Dadburnitpa
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Hope has never been a proactive method to solve anything.  That is why it is the favored emotion of the feckless.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 19:00 | 3597271 Tulpa
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Well, hope without a plan to realize its object is like anger without a plan to fight its object.  It's certainly not enough to do any good by itself, but without hope you're totally doomed.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 20:19 | 3597453 WonderDawg
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You're absolutely correct. Every action taken by anyone ever is in the "hope" that the action will relieve some form of discomfort. Without that incentive, no action would be taken. Hope is the fuel that powers the engine (the means) that drives us toward our intended destination (the end).

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 20:31 | 3597459 WonderDawg
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"Hope" is the only thing that provides the incentive to do anything constuctive about a bad situation. If you didn't have the "hope" that you could fix it, you wouldn't try.

In fact, on further consideration, not only is your statement false, it's the polar opposite of the truth.

Sat, 05/25/2013 - 13:21 | 3598476 Prince Eugene o...
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Yes! Thank you.

Naked Hope in Obama's insipid sloganeering to his nation of laggards got us two terms of a presidency on permanent vacation. The socialist change of this modern liberal is to tear down what is good, elevate what is evil until they meet in the middle and there is no reason left to fight. This is utopia for the politically correct nihilists. Most of Europe is there already where Fascist Islam is poised to take over.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:11 | 3597043 Cursive
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Yeah, I think what's coming is going to be bad, but like how bad?  Squatters everywhere?  Obama tent camps?  More zombie eating people?  Marshall Law?

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:18 | 3597059 HelluvaEngineer
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Martial, sorry.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:19 | 3597065 NotApplicable
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What's my wife have to do with this?

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:17 | 3597195 cougar_w
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She's been tapped by the Obama administration to make all the new laws.

She said you were okay with it.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:16 | 3597192 James_Cole
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I prefer Marshal Law. 

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 20:38 | 3597500 Oleander
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Who the hell is Marshall? Fuck him and his law!

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:20 | 3597200 forwardho
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 Annihilation,  complete and total annihilation.

 

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 20:06 | 3597424 August
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Mass hysteria.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:39 | 3597226 Tulpa
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Extreme sensitivity to initial conditions.... but if I had to wager I'd say some sort of fascist/socialist new world order.  If you look at history, (1) statism is the norm and (2) empires grow as large as they can given existing technology.  There should have already been a 1984-type world given our advanced technology; the dominance of the Anglophone bloc with its weird history of freedom got in the way.  Unless the tech vanishes somehow we're not going to have an anarchic "state of nature" after any collapse.

I don't think collapse is inevitable though.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 19:03 | 3597283 TuPhat
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Where have you been the last few years?  1984 we have already.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 23:00 | 3597764 Milestones
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Martial Law.          Milestones

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:15 | 3597052 Two Feet Studs Up
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I'm forever blowing bubbles,
Pretty bubbles in the air,
They fly so high,
Nearly reach the sky,
Then like my dreams,
They fade and die.
Fortune's always hiding,
I've looked everywhere,
I'm forever blowing bubbles,
Pretty bubbles in the air.

UNITED....states

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:22 | 3597070 goober
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Pretty accurate assessment IMO . I see many cracks and fissures starting to appear in the foundations of the illusions . But it is still in slomo , at least for now ..............we live in massive illusions to be sure ! and illusions do not last indefinitely . PRAVDA has dictated and controlled all dialogue in the last few years and prior , but even that is starting to show signs of cracks . And that is the main source of power of the current regime and the fed . Control freaks run amok , everywhere one looks .     

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 20:05 | 3597423 NoDebt
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A lot of people NEED those illusions.  That's why they have such persistence.

Remember your Seinfeld quotes:  "It's not a lie if YOU believe it!"

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:23 | 3597074 goober
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Actually , it already is a black hole .

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:25 | 3597079 Diamond Jim
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Guess we can just bring back the "bubble master" Lawrence Welk to orchestrate some old appropriate tunes....one of the Bernank's favorite..."Blowing bubbles in the air..."

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:50 | 3597135 optimator
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Diamond Jim!!!!!

I'm linking this just on the million to one chance you've never heard this recording, speaking of bubblemaster Larry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qikwUXvdh0

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 20:05 | 3597420 Diamond Jim
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Thanks Optimator....that was just "wun'erful"...good stuff...like what they've done with SNL portrayals.......thanks.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:26 | 3597082 lunaticfringe
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America's Bubble Economy Is Going To Become An Economic Black Hole

 

Oooohh, when exactly is this going to happen? It's like Chicken Little's been spouting this for a few years now. I quit reading that blog long ago. Should be called the doomer blog.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:06 | 3597170 booboo
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Wealth will disiniggerate

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 19:18 | 3597313 samcontrol
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iAre you saying that if they are not buying at wall mart , they are not buying? umm
confidence is up and maybe they are spending a higher buck elsewhere?

who cares anyway , i'm fucked and want my miners to go up.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 19:24 | 3597332 Terrorist
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Booboo I see what you did there.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:48 | 3597238 Tulpa
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Last week I noticed my neighbor had an oil puddle beneath the engine of his car.  I told him, "Your engine is going to seize up if you don't get that taken care of." He shrugged and went about his business.

This morning he drove up to me and said, "I've driven 500 miles since we last talked, and my engine hasn't seized.  You don't know what the F you're talking about."  He got out of his car satisfied that he had shown me up, walked into his house... but that oil's still dripping.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 19:39 | 3597357 BurningFuld
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He's putting in more oil and not telling you.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 20:21 | 3597460 krispkritter
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Years ago I said that to a kid with a sparkling 300ZX.  He ignored it and a few weeks later showed up for work in a rental.  Said he was on the way back to his place with the hottest girl he'd ever picked up(in Tampa) when the engine went dead in the middle of a the Howard Frankland bridge(about 5 miles either direction to anything) and she went home in a cab and he blew $3k on a new engine...drip, drip, drip...

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 23:07 | 3597779 Jugdish
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He should have checked her oil on that bridge before he called her a cab. Any respectable guy would have at least attempted.  Although younger gals don't respond well to having their oil checked older chics enjoy having their oil checked.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 19:03 | 3597280 Professorlocknload
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Yup, been looking for a bridge to jump off, but they're all falling down.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 19:19 | 3597315 samcontrol
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call me when you find one.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:30 | 3597086 world_debt_slave
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good analogy, though black holes serve a purpose in the universe unlike the criminals in charge.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:15 | 3597188 forwardho
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According to string theory...

The other side of a blackhole is a big bang.

Take solice in your destruction, nature abhours a vacume.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 22:12 | 3597656 Element
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You've mentioned the unmentionable long-thin-thingy-theory, that's a -1 offense.

(yor spellen is intraesting thow)

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 23:11 | 3597784 Milestones
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{intraesting Thow) Wow I hope for my sake you were pimping around with the above spelling..)     Interesting thou??  though     Milestones

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:32 | 3597088 Peter Pan
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I think those black holes can be filled quite easily by dumping all the bankers, politicians and their bullshit into them.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:24 | 3597205 Ban KKiller
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Yes! Best idea yet.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:34 | 3597094 pashley1411
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What I wonder about is the reaction when social programs are cut/inflation eats their value.    These are the underemployed and unemployed. 

What, exactly, do you think they are going to do?    Riot a little?   Block traffic?    A mob does a Watts riot, which provides burning buildings and a little evening news, but how many mobs does it take to shake the political establishment?

The threat is of a threatened and po'd middle class.   Wipe out private secto, like in Spain, who are politically capable (whether motivated is another thing).  That's when there is fireworks.

Sat, 05/25/2013 - 01:31 | 3597959 Diogenes
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Who do you think the 2000 personnel carriers and 2 billion bullets are for?

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:36 | 3597097 besnook
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but paul krugman says we can print our way out of this. he is a nobel prize winner. he must know something. we should print our way out of this because paul says we should. we need more natural disasters, too. more tornadoes and more hurricanes will be great for the economy. paul says it is true.

i like how he says war is good, too. 3 billion people need to die so the rest of us can work to rebuild the destruction to continue the path to infinite growth. paul knows. don't listen to this guy or anyone else who says bad, bad things are coming. they don't have nobel prizes like paul does. they don't know like paul knows.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 19:04 | 3597285 smacker
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Paul Krugman is such a brilliant economist, he ought to print all of his super-genius, amazing words of wisdom onto leaflets and hand them out on street corners.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:41 | 3597112 IamtheREALmario
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We need a new Meme!

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 19:05 | 3597288 Meme Iamfurst
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I heard you call my name....Iam here !!! Iam here!!!!

 

Bought one of those fancy new 3d printers that I saw on U tube.  Guy was printing food ! and Gold coins!  out of thin air !!!  So, i tried it.  I got Cheetos that i can't eat, and gold coins that are plated lead.  And, to think i paid perfectly good fiat currency to get this thing.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:45 | 3597116 americanspirit
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Bubbles pop when the internal pressure exceeds the strength of the wall of the bubble to contain that pressure (or when something 'pricks' the wall). Bubbles can be maintained, at least temporarily, if at some point the inflating gas stops entering and the wall is allowed to seal itself off.

If the gas keeps coming in, bubbles expand as their wall attempts to compensate for the increasing volume and pressure, and since there is no way to strengthen the wall once expansion has begun, no bubble's wall can hold infinitely - at some point the wall simply becomes too thin. This does not happen gradually - when the wall of the bubble can no longer contain the internal pressure, the entire wall vaporizes. It does not spring a leak - it vaporizes. Instantly.

Shock and awe baby.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:46 | 3597120 SmittyinLA
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much of the new money that the Federal Reserve has been recklessly printing up has gone into stocks

 

I beg to differ, most of the  money printed has gone to interest payments on bad mortgage bonds, NOT into stocks. 

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:11 | 3597181 reload
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And it has gone to TBTF derivative loosers - in order they can pay out their losses.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:49 | 3597131 pndr4495
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Someone wrote in a comment from a different ZeroHedge article that we should have The U.S. Treasury Department issue a currency with which all debts public and private can be paid.  The Federal Reserve Bank as an agent of the multinational banking cabal has pillaged more than enough from what was once a land of real opportunity , regardless of social class.   We need to stop them from continuing to do this.  How to do it without a catastrophe ocurring is the riddle to solve.  Will that save the rest of the economies ?   Maybe Clark and Dawe can help us with that question.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 19:31 | 3597343 Seeking Aphids
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There needs to be a reset of global debt...the world's leaders (BIS?) need to sit down and draft an agreement which will simply knock off 5 or 6 zeros off of all debt....bring it all down to reasonable levels....there will be a rather radical haircut involved (think Mohawk) but we will get used to it.....they also need to revamp the tax system so that it captures the multinationals who are currently getting a free ride from the middle classes..............who will revert to working class  if this is not done soon......these two things really, really, really need to be done - if not then we will have more of the same for a short while and then the world's first Great Depression (the last one did not include most of the world's population which was made up largely of peasants). Oh and a new global currency backed by gold will be needed to restore confidence going forward, of course.....please add this to the list and....don't forget the milk.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:51 | 3597141 VonSalza
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Beautiful Burnout http://youtu.be/P8LPbXMGjNs
Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:55 | 3597147 Ignorance is bliss
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I am not going to read zero hedge until Tuesday. I am going to enjoy my long weekend. Take care all. 

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:09 | 3597178 forwardho
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In deferance to your name (a truism by the by) I withhold comment.

Enjoy yourself!

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 19:42 | 3597364 Seeking Aphids
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In deference to your post (an oymoron by the by) I won't tell you that you spelled it wrong.

Sat, 05/25/2013 - 00:49 | 3597921 Oh regional Indian
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So says the oymoronic poster!

Classic...

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 17:56 | 3597148 venturen
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Happy Friday!

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:02 | 3597160 surf0766
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Boomers in the hole first !

Sat, 05/25/2013 - 09:29 | 3598194 Louie the Dog
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surf, you can start by killing your parents first.  Let us know how that goes.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:02 | 3597161 shovelhead
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25 US Banks...

212 TRILLION DOLLARS?

Thems some sphincter tightening numbers, friends.

Good thing there's no risk out there otherwise things could get messy.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:04 | 3597165 max2205
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Supernova in the sky.....

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:05 | 3597167 Nue
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Marc Faber is going to be proved right about us not making it out the summer without the economy blowing a wheel out. Of course the wheel blew out 4 years ago now the rubbers ripped off and were driving on the Rim.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:25 | 3597203 cougar_w
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A black hole in the economy will eat all of our fiat, kill the banks, destroy property values in Manhattan, and shut down multinational corporations across the planet.

Okay and so the problem is ... what.

Oh yeah, and this while I'm still sober:

http://madscienceunlimited.com/fiction/uncomfortableWithTheTruth.html

Lying bunch of fucks needed to get their heads handed to them anyway. But isn't she just the cutest thing while she's at it? Ya gotta give the kid some props.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:54 | 3597252 Tulpa
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They're not going quietly into the night.  That's the problem with "starve the beast" thinking.... the beast can do an incredible amount of destruction before it's out of energy.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 23:51 | 3597854 Milestones
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Cougar, thank you for  the most interesting read--I enjoyed it.           Milestones

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:26 | 3597208 thismarketisrigged
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what is the best way to prepare for the destruction ahead?

 

i own lots of gold and silver and ammo, anything else i can do to be prepared, or is it something that we are just going to have to suffer through and be defenseless against?

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:36 | 3597223 cougar_w
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"suffer through and be defenseless against?"

Pretty much yeah.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:48 | 3597240 Room 101
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Have a useful/practical skill, lots of food, water, medicine, the means to defend all of the above.  Encourage others that you care about to do likewise.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:55 | 3597259 Tulpa
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Whatever you do, don't take those items you own on boating adventures.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:46 | 3597233 Room 101
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The article is completely wrong: wall street is NOT a casino.

In a casino you get free drinks.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:56 | 3597263 Tulpa
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You have to tip or they water them down (with water if you're lucky).

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 23:56 | 3597860 Milestones
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Correct. This far closer resembles a Carney runway. Step right up little lady. Knock down the 3 bottles and win yourself a Panda Bear.  Milestones

Sat, 05/25/2013 - 01:37 | 3597970 Diogenes
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Muppet blows $2600 life savings at carnival, wins muppet.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/30/henry-gribbohm-carnival-loses-s...

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 18:46 | 3597235 q99x2
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Bullshit. You 1st get rid of Holder then start to lock up the bankster CEOs, hold Bernanke and the FED members in GITMO for treason. Re-install the constitution of the United States of America, begin rebuilding the infrastructure, remove all rights from Corporations, break up the monopolies, any and all assets that were part of the attempted overthrow of the United States Government by the globalists would be confiscated and re-distributed and an open source crypto currency would be used to replace the dollar.

That's a very prosperous set of future possibilities rather than that bankster terroristic threat of collapse and devastation that keeps getting bandied about.

Don't give into their rediculous ideas. Lock the pricks up and prosper.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 19:01 | 3597269 Jack Burton
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According to the laws of physics, conservation of information, the economy may implode into a black hole, but on the surface of the black hole, the information and all the money of the entire economy will be preserved on the suface of the black hole in the form of bits of information, or in other words a form of a 1-0 code.

So we will not lose our economy or money to the hole. It will be still in our universe, the laws of physics will be preserved, but accessing all that wealth will be god damn fucking hard work!

Check it out, this is a know physical fact.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 19:04 | 3597287 Jack Burton
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Went to the store today, NRP was playing an economic story on the radio. It was very upbeat, it was the announcement that the Housinf Recovery was here in earnest and home prices were again on the rise across the nation. On the back of low interst rates and a vastly improved economy, house prices were in full recovery.

I thought "You useless pricks! Sure we have a small but real bubble effect in house prices at present. It will be very, very, very short lived!"

NPR economic reporst have called housing recovery for 3 fucking years, every few months they call a new one.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 19:07 | 3597291 trustee
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Should they tell everyone to short SP contracts at will instead and lose their shirts like most of you have been doing for the past 5 years?

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 19:13 | 3597306 samcontrol
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i really want to find you muskette.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 19:19 | 3597314 bugs_
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What do we do when we are awake?  Keep two eyes on the sky.
What do we do when we sleep?  Keep one eye on the sky.
What do we do when we see them?  Dig hard, dig deep, go for shelter, and never look back.

What do we do when they say we need a central bank again?  We let them burn.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 19:21 | 3597319 moar beer..
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To quote a Lending Tree commercial, “when the banks compete, you lose.” or was it the other way around.. oh well. Moar beer please..

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 20:36 | 3597495 Westcoastliberal
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Reminds me of the idiotic new US Bank positioning statement.  It's "US Bank, serving you".  I think "US Bank, serving you with papers" is much more appropriate.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 19:22 | 3597325 lasvegaspersona
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As a freegold guy I can tell you that the mood our way seems to be one of high alert. We watch the gold market falling apart and the major holders consistently reporting shrinking inventories. I don't think many would be surprised if the banks did not open next week (with Monday being a holiday it would give them extra time to come up with bullshit reasons for why things aren't going to be the same going forward). If they do open then every weekend until August will be the same high alert. After that if the wheels are still on I'll be doing some re-thinking of premeses but for now I am definitely in high prep mode.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 20:26 | 3597469 MedicalQuack
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Well I call it the Attack of the Killer Algorithms and Algo Duping as technology is used to create bubbles and nobody's listening.  We don't have enough tech savvy folks in DC and thus the others (banks) will take the money and run.  Videos from people smarter than me explain...

http://www.ducknet.net/attack-of-the-killer-algorithms/

 

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 20:34 | 3597489 Westcoastliberal
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So how can we fix this without 20 years of hell?  How 'bout we do a selective jubilee designed to kick-start the economy, put money in actual Human's hands, along with debt forgiveness for credit cards, student loans, and upside-down mortgages?

I think instead of moaning and groaning about how fucked up things are, we need to start talking about how to really fix things for the maximum number of people, regardless of the repercussions from the 1%.  Fuck them, I'm sick of them.  And ANY plan with a real solution (that could be approved by the 1%) will be VERY bad for the masses and not so bad or even advantageous for them.  So I say, we outnumber them, fuck them. And Bernanke too!

Sat, 05/25/2013 - 04:54 | 3598039 smacker
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"...along with debt forgiveness for credit cards, student loans, and upside-down mortgages"

I've never really supported "debt forgiveness", but I do support a process of default.

If a person - or State - borrows beyond their means and is then forgiven their debts, there is no incentive for them to manage financial affairs better to live within their means in the future. No lessons are learned because the debtors believe that forgiveness soon follows a repayment crises. Another debt crises will likely happen in 10 years time. A vicious circle is created.

The people of Greece, Portugal, Argentina et al are suffering terrible hardships right now because their governments over-borrowed and stacked up enormous debts, but they refuse to default and are locked into Troika bail-outs with all the infringements of sovereignty that get included. But if their governments defaulted on unrepayable debts, sovereignty would remain intact and recovery would start the next day. And borrowers/lenders would all have learnt a lesson in life.

Sat, 05/25/2013 - 06:59 | 3598077 pndr4495
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It appeared to some people that the big banks and their platoons of MBA traders and PHD economists gambled ( created risk ) in a " new and improved " sandbox called derivatives/swaps.  Henry Paulson foisted a debt jubilee of those same banks onto the backs of each John/Jane Q. Public.  He did that when he took his bazooka and bailed them out.  Their debts thus magically disappeared.  That was how it was written back in 1910 on Jekyll Island.  Paulson used the playbook.

Sat, 05/25/2013 - 07:45 | 3598112 smacker
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TARP - when seen as a process of forgiveness - is often described as 'where it all started'. But it was wrong. Not to be outdone, Obama added his own even larger bailout fund.

Not only has it allowed irresponsible banksters to get away with malfeasance and fraud, they never learned the necessary lessons and are now in a stronger position to dictate to government and continue with malfeasance. Add central bankers to that, who, faced with the reality that their QE policies have failed, call for even more of it. Like junkies claiming that the cure for drug addiction is more drugs.

It was never the duty of taxpayers to be a back-stop to corrupt banks. Standard rules of capitalism should have been deployed and allowed to play out. Although the shock may have have been more severe at the time and several banks may have disappeared, recovery would have begun sooner.

Instead of that, major economies continue in a state of deep recession with rising sovereign debts, unemployment is high and rising and innocent people are paying the price, resulting in a collapse of trust in anybody connected with banking. Civil unrest across Europe.

IMHO, virtually every action taken by the political elites and central banks in response to this crises since 2007-8 has been exactly what should not have been taken.

The insane irony of this shambles is that the very same people who created it are now in the driving seats resolving it. Is it any wonder that the crises continues and gets worse by the day?

Sun, 05/26/2013 - 04:39 | 3599354 Postkey
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"Although the shock may have have been more severe at the time and several banks may have disappeared, recovery would have begun sooner."

 

 

In the USA, in the 'Great Depression' aggregate demand fell and, in the 1930's, GDP declined by 28%.  
In the USA, in the  'Great Recession', aggregate demand fell by a greater amount than it had in the 'Great Depression' but GDP declined by 'only' 5%.

Without governments increasing their expenditures and 'loose' monetary policy, then GDP could
have fallen by an amount greater than 28%?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/116293469/Keen-2012-Fiscal-Cliff-Lessons-From-...

 

 

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 05:26 | 3600666 smacker
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I dunno. What I know from many lessons in life is that the only way to deal with any problem, is to deal with it. Not to go into denial or apply the wrong medication. But that would have exposed TPTB to blame for what's happened and required criminal prosecutions of central bankers, commercial banksters and quite a few others.

So what we've seen since 2007-8 is an attempt by TPTB to completely deny how deep the rot is and to paper over the cracks of a crises of their own making with QE, Zirp and other market manipulations, whilst claiming that economies are slowly recovering organically and just need some support while that happens. ho-ho.

But the market manipulations and lack of any real action to correctly deal with the roots of the crises have caused a major collapse in public respect, confidence and trust in the financial system.

Thus, economies haven't recovered and are actually getting worse in many respects. As countless articles and comments on ZH argue, sooner or later, the rubber will hit the tarmac and the newly created bubbles will burst. What then? Expropriation of money from anybody who still has some, to fill up the ever-growing black holes?

I am certain that when history is written about this crises it will record that policy response to it was wrong wrong wrong and actually made the crises deeper and longer. All for the purpose of protecting the power structure of the elites and their crony banksters.

Sat, 05/25/2013 - 14:26 | 3598570 Dudeskis
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You suggest we:
- mo bigga stimulus but selective. (Who selects???? Hahaha)
- allow people to be deadbeats on their debt with no consequences

How do you think we got in to this mess?
- government spending
- insane debt over leveraging

And then you can't leave without some class warfare.

Personally I'd rather bleed in the streets than implement(extend current) your solution.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 21:57 | 3597635 Promethus
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I agree things can"t go on like this. The gods of the copy book headings are calling. Still there is a small chance that when the smoke clears, the post bubble world may be better and we may finally learn a lesson. With hope, I can put up with 20 years of hell.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 21:55 | 3597636 illyia
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Everybody always talks about the end to the printing and the "financial collapse" (but nobody ever... yadda, yadda).

But no body ever talks about what that situation would be like. Like what?

No toilet paper? No plane rides? No gas for the Chevy? No little cookie cutter houses? No McMansions?

What?!? What does this look like? Not in a "Prepper" kind of way. In a financial kind of way. What is likely?

For once I would like a discussion on what this dire prediction actually means. What happens?

Eh? Tylers?

Sat, 05/25/2013 - 02:03 | 3597980 kurt
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People will "act out" based on their circumstance. Some will jump out of windows. Some will kill. Some will grab whatever cash they can steal and drive to another city or Mexico. You'll know when it's happening when you see odd news stories of bags of cash falling off a car roof  and people scambling to pick it up, causing minor traffic events. Most frighteningly there will be large "events" like terrorism, military actions, threats, stagemanaged distractions. Calls for ORDER will be amplified, calls for prosecution. House break-ins and grubbing for things of intrinsic value will ensue. Hording. Religious pronouncements. Rumors! More acting out. Something terribly ugly will happen, causing a pause. The "five stages" will riddle society. Hidden enormous crimes, small crimes, aggressive enforcement. Prices GO WILD. After the blood beware the solutions, they'll be worse. Eventually trust will re-emerge in pockets. People gotta eat.

Fri, 05/24/2013 - 22:03 | 3597645 RottenAlpha
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Fri, 05/24/2013 - 22:03 | 3597646 Promethus
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I agree things can"t go on like this. The gods of the copy book headings are calling. Still there is a small chance that when the smoke clears, the post bubble world may be better and we may finally learn a lesson.

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