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Memorial Day: Visualizing America’s Wartime Veterans

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Memorial Day, originally called Decoration Day, is a day of remembrance for those who died in service to their country. The holiday was officially proclaimed in 1868 to honor Union and Confederate soldiers and was expanded after World War I to honor those who died in all wars. Today, Memorial Day honors over one million men and women who have died in military service since the Civil War. This infographic compiles statistics from the U.S. Census Bureau and Department of Defense to honor our men and women who have served in the U.S. Armed Forces.



And some historic quotes inspired by the supreme patriotic sacrifice made by so many:


Patriotism consists not in waving the flag, but in striving that our country shall be righteous as well as strong.

- James Bryce


Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism.

- George Washington  

I love America more than any other country in this world, and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually.
- James A. Baldwin


My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.

- John F. Kennedy


Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

- Mark Twain


A man's country is not a certain area of land, of mountains, rivers, and woods, but it is a principle and patriotism is loyalty to that principle.

- George William Curtis


Memorial Day this year is especially important as we are reminded almost daily of the great sacrifices that the men and women of the Armed Services make to defend our way of life.

- Robin Hayes


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Mon, 05/27/2013 - 10:49 | 3601039 RacerX
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Interesting graphic. Too bad it doesn't start at the Revolutionary War.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 10:52 | 3601048 malikai
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Now, that would be supporting of terrorism.

We can't have that now can we?

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:00 | 3601061 Herd Redirectio...
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How about a infographic describing how bankers financed both sides?

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:43 | 3601133 freewolf7
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"All Wars Are Bankers Wars"
on You Tube

Also, these stats don't include those with PTSD,
who may not have died "in theater",
but did choose suicide,
or just had a slow death
on the streets
or in their quality of life.

Bankers, financing this misery,
are the most sociopathic
beings on the planet.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:47 | 3601187 Stuck on Zero
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Do you find it ironic that these brave men died "in theater?"  Theater for whom?  Bankers?


Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:56 | 3601203 francis_sawyer
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What day of the year do we honor "grannies" who saved money all their lives only to have Benny & the inkjets steal it from them & force them to buy discounted catfood to live to see another day?...

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:20 | 3601253 true brain
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"Fellow Americans, let's honor the veterans and go shopping. After all there is no better way to fight tezzozitsss who hates us for our malls."  G.W. Bush.


"Fellow American, patriotism is never asking why bankers get richer, but ask instead if you and yours get your fair share in SNAP, and HFA, and student aids, and healthcare. And the answer is a resounding yes. Yes, you can. Yes you have." Barack Obama.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 14:43 | 3601513 cynicalskeptic
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'War is a racket'

"I've spent a career in the service of American Business'

- Smedley Butler.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 15:33 | 3601594 The Heart
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"Fellow Americans, let's honor the veterans and go shopping."

Signs of the economy? You know people are broke when they never use a shopping cart to go shopping anymore. You know they are broken poor when they get things at the food store, and have to put them back because of the lack of money to buy what one needs. You know people are broke when they all stay home and do not drive to the store any more and when they do, it is no more than four times a month. Welcome to America, the land where the war profiteers make hay, and the poor get poorer and then die prematurely. Change!!

Yeah, that ol economy is just booming. Might as well have a false flag event to start more world war and send all those collage graduate kids off to fight another banksters war so they can get richer, and the kids can die. Maybe they will even get to be part of the population reduction agenda if they are lucky. (sarc off/)

May each and every one reflect now on whether your choice is to support and finance moar war, or to do all one can to stop this insanity and arrest the evil warmonger bankster profiteers. There are enough resources and an abundance of what every soul on the planet needs and requires for a beautiful sustainable life. If we stop paying for all these endless wars of aggression, close all 900 USA warmonger bases of operation all over the world, and bring home all our troops NOW, maybe there can be a future for all the children who are otherwise scheduled to go on the chopping block of sacrifice for the evil banksters that want to kill us all off eventually.

Bless each and every soul on board today.

Memento Mori.

Tue, 05/28/2013 - 03:11 | 3602886 CutOut
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ZH readers may like to ask HEART why he intentionally posts disinfo including Boston bombing fake injuries / fake blood / crisis actors garbage which is 100% DISINFORMATION.

HEART, we are still waiting for an explanation...

(Have got screen caps so don't bother deleting your Boston posts)


ZH is being targeted by FedGov spambots & human operatives saturating the comment sections with garbage and disinformation in addition to down voting certain posters.

They are not harmless trolls, they are professional operatives attempting to undermine and discredit ZH via multi nic sock puppets.

Attacking this post by constant down voting speaks for itself.
Case closed.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:58 | 3601208 Kreditanstalt
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Not bankers...GOVERNMENTS.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:11 | 3601239 Kirk2NCC1701
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Theater of the Macabre.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:05 | 3601228 Wile-E-Coyote
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How about a infographic of how many bankers and politicains sons served and died.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 14:41 | 3601509 cynicalskeptic
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At least with the British Empire the second son in a family of wealth served in the military (the first inheriting the family estate, the third often going into the clergy) .  In the US the scions of the wealthy and powerful manage to avoid service  - or go through a sham 'show' of serving.

I wonder if we d fight so many wars if the sons of Congressmen, Presidents and cabinet members had to fight.


Was at West Point late in the course of Vietnam - NOBODY really 'believed' at that point - many were there only to put things off for four years hoping for a better assignment - lots of low draft lottery numbers.  Upperclassmen had heard enough back from their predecessors - it was a clusterfuck and pointless.  No sense of glory, just a hope that it might end before they got killed or a hope they'd get through the mess if it didn't.....  today with an all volunteer military you have far fewere 'dissenting' points of view - in fact it's a bit scary seeing how unquestioning some are.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 13:59 | 3601415 Kaiser Sousa
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"The Rothschilds and their friends sent in their financial termites to destroy America because it was becoming "prosperous beyond precedent."

The first documentable evidence of Rothschild involvement in the financial affairs of the United States came in the late 1820s and early 1830s when the family, through their agent Nicholas Biddle, fought to defeat Andrew Jackson's move to curtail the international bankers. The Rothschilds lost the first round when in 1832, President Jackson vetoed the move to renew the charter of the 'Bank of the United States' (a central bank controlled by the international bankers). In 1836 the bank went out of business.

"Shortly thereafter Abraham Lincoln became President, being inaugurated on March 4, 1861. Lincoln immediately ordered a blockade on Southern ports, to cut off supplies that were pouring in from Europe. The 'official' date for the start of the Civil War is given as April 12, 1861, when Fort Sumter in South Carolina was bombarded by the Confederates, but it obviously began at a much earlier date.

In December, 1861, large numbers of European Troops (British, French and Spanish) poured into Mexico in defiance of the Monroe Doctrine. This, together with widespread European aid to the Confederacy strongly indicated that the Crown was preparing to enter the war. The outlook for the North, and the future of the Union, was bleak indeed.

In this hour of extreme crisis, Lincoln appealed to the Crown's perennial enemy, Russia, for assistance. When the envelope containing Lincoln's urgent appeal was given to Czar Alexander II, he weighed it unopened in his hand and stated: "Before we open this paper or know its contents, we grant any request it may contain."

Unannounced, a Russian fleet under Admiral Liviski, steamed into New York harbor on September 24, 1863, and anchored there, The Russian Pacific fleet, under Admiral Popov, arrived in San Francisco on October 12. Of this Russian act, Gideon Wells said: "They arrived at the high tide of the Confederacy and the low tide of the North, causing England and France to hesitate long enough to turn the tide for the North"(Empire of "The City," p. 90).

History reveals that the Rothschilds were heavily involved in financing both sides in the Civil War. Lincoln put a damper on their activities when, in 1862 and 1863, he refused to pay the exorbitant rates of interest demanded by the Rothschilds and issued constitutionally-authorized, interest free United States notes. For this and other acts of patriotism Lincoln was shot down in cold-blood by John Wilkes Booth on April 14, 1865, just five days after Lee surrendered to Grant at Appomattox Court House, Virginia.

Booth's grand-daughter, Izola Forrester, states in This One Mad Act that Lincoln's assassin had been in close contact with mysterious Europeans prior to the slaying, and had made at least one trip to Europe."

they died fighting for the bankers freedom's...

happy memorial day..........

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:17 | 3601101 mofreedom
Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:26 | 3601110 malikai
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To the victom of one of those drone strikes by Mr. Hussein, yes. Your name and mine may not be on their list, but I don't think the "jihadists" give a shit about names.

Now how does one consolidate this: Is O a jihadist killing for "us", or is he a "non-practicing muslim"?

BTW: I loved this line which I found quite prescient, so thanks for the waste of time trying to decipher this nonsense. I'm a little dumber now that I've read the thing:

"We’ve tried everything since 9/11 except real war. War is the answer to Jihad."

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:44 | 3601177 max2205
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Patton: make the other guy die for his country

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:57 | 3601205 francis_sawyer
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that guy was a "poor dumb bastard"

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 14:59 | 3601544 Kaiser Sousa
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"The next action by Woodrow Wilson at the behest of Colonel House was to convince Congress of the necessity of forming the “LEAGUE OF NATIONS” which later became the UN. A further decisive step by the Illuminati towards world power had been taken.

Des Griffin describes the First World War from the viewpoint of the Illuminati as follows:

“1. America’s policy of isolationism and neutrality, expounded so eloquently by George Washington in his farewell message and given official expression in the Monroe Doctrine, died. A precedent was established – albeit through monumental deceit – for America’s use as a military tool in the hands of the International Bankers.

“2. Czarist Russia, a thorn in the side of the money monopolists for many years, had been successfully removed from the world scene. This had been forecast forty-seven years earlier by top Illuminist Albert Pike, in his famous letter to Mazzini.

“3. World War I created astronomical national debts in the nations which participated. These debts were held by the International Bankers who, as we have seen, organized and stage-managed the show from start to finish. “Theaters of war” have always proved extremely lucrative to their managers and those who finance them!

The Treaty of Versailles of course was also based on Rothschild plans. On the American side stood the Rothschild puppet Woodrow Wilson with his advisors and Rothschild agents Colonel House and Bernard Baruch, on the English side, more exactly the side of the CROWN, was Lloyd George, member of the Committee of 300, with his advisor SIR PHILIP SASSOON, a direct descendant of Amschel Rothschild and member of the English Privy Council. France had Prime Minister Clemenceau andGEORGE MANDEL as a delegation.


Mandel, born JEROBEAM ROTHSCHILD, was often called the Disraeli of France, made this round perfect. Colonel House, at the peak of his powers, was the central figure at the Peace Conference. It happened once that Clemenceau arrived when President Wilson was with House. Wilson was required to leave the room while House and Clemenceau conferred in private.

Philip Snowden describes the treaty as follows:

“The treaty should satisfy brigands, imperialists and militarists. It is the deathblow to those who expected the end of the war to bring peace. It is not a peace treaty, but a declaration of another war. It is the betrayal of democracy and of the fallen in the war. The treaty exposes the true aims of the Allies.

Lloyd George said:

“We have written a document that guarantees war in twenty years. When you place conditions on a people (Germany) that it cannot possibly keep, you force it either to break the agreement or to war."

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 15:57 | 3601676 BeetleBailey
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shoot THEM in the belly....

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:35 | 3601150 Tortuga
Mon, 05/27/2013 - 10:53 | 3601051 john39
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"died i service to their country"...   if only that were true this holiday might have some moral meaning.   But, banker wars hardly qualify as service to one's country.  not really knocking vets, they were used, but, isn't it about time we stop pretending and end the charade?

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:15 | 3601096 doggis
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Bankers funding both sides of war to laden workers with "DEBT" is only part of the story.

another part of the story is how bankers USE the military AS A SOURCE OF CHEAP LABOR TO BUILD "TRADE ROUTES" for banker business.

Current case in point - AFGHANISTAN! "northern trade routes - railway constructed using 'cheap military labour' -  to gain access to the vast mineral deposits of this country - to be handed over to the Chinese for extraction, using 'cheap chinese labour' - all in an effort for bankers to have something else to LEVERAGE UP......

this is the modern use of the military - or rather, the children of the working classes. they are also a source of cheap labour for bankers. 



Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:30 | 3601135 malikai
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Same as it ever was.

Remember Rome? Guess who'se shoes beat those roads into existence. Guess who'se blood ran down the sides of them. And finally, guess who used those roads, in arms, coming from the other direction.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:14 | 3601249 Herd Redirectio...
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Its time for those men to come home (I guess they can bring the women back too).

What happens if they refuse orders and get on a plane back to the States any way?  I imagine if its one guy doing it you get court-martialed before you ever get on the plane, but what if its an entire platoon?

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 15:07 | 3601557 dark pools of soros
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then you bust them for sex crimes.. what else?

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:26 | 3601121 Bay of Pigs
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My Dad is 91 and fought in WWII, and he couldn't agree with you more. War is a racket for the Central Banks and MIC.

"War and the Fed" by Lew Rockwell.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:37 | 3601154 kliguy38
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Morning brotha pig.....true words........its become nauseating watching the bankers propagandize what can only be referred to as a mercenary military with paultry benefits and pay to the grunts and massive payoffs to the generals to keep them quiet as they sell out their constitution........watta joke

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:59 | 3601211 smlbizman
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we need them to start drafting again, ...that would re-awaken the clueless quick...

i would guess most of us here would be first in line to defend our country, say like if another country invaded us, or droned us, or held us forever,etc.......but these cocksuckers will never get my son...that battle will be fought on my front steps with no son will not be used as a sacrificial lamb or to try and kill another poor unwitting lamb...and that would be the effects of a draft...

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:37 | 3601123 SMG
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Most rank and file members of the military have no idea what is really going on, and believe they are fighting for a noble cause, and are willing to die (and have died)  for what they believe  is the freedom of you and I.  Not only that, look at the number of homeless vets, and all the suffering (PTSD, homelessness, suicide, and the like)  they must go through, once they figure out how they were used. Today is the day to honor those rank and file people, for that honorable sacrifice.  Do not disrespect them for the Evil of their fraudulant leadership.

How can you honor them?  Get the word out to as many people as possible about how the Evil Oligarchs at the top are lying, misleading,and using everybody.  Tell anyone who will listen.  When people know, then they can be free.    Only when every single common person has total understanding of what is going on at the top and how the Oligarchs enslave us through media, debt, government and private thugs and the like,  only then can we have the freedom we only dream about right now.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:47 | 3601188 kliguy38
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the military rank and file is becoming more aware of just how corrupt the system is and this is becoming a problem for the masters.....just look at how they view vets now as potential terrorist....awareness is a threat to the system and unfortunately it is the only peaceful choice left.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:22 | 3601257 malikai
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Not to be overtly Nihilist about it all, but the rank-and-file military folks have been learning that lesson for ages. Everyone does.

The fact is that there is always a fresh breed of dumb meat for the grinder. And as of yet, no shortage of willing new meat. Indeed, the number of willng contestants increases every year as the actual economy continues it's relentless decline.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 13:46 | 3601392 Herd Redirectio...
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The military (esp. army) has always recruited from the poorest segment of society.


Mon, 05/27/2013 - 14:28 | 3601483 ClumsyBoatman
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That's true perhaps from the Vietnam-era on, however in WW2 recruits were taken from all sections of society due to the compulsory draft. And in any case most men wanted to fight voluntarily.

And historically the military takes some of the brightest and most capable young people into their officer corps, typically middle/upper middle classes.


Mon, 05/27/2013 - 15:43 | 3601639 Herd Redirectio...
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Thats true from at least 1400 AD on.   And yes, the Officer Corp and Military Intelligence are a completely different strata of society (and perform a completely different role within the military as well).

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 16:45 | 3601805 constantine
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I'm in the military and have found the average person wearing the uniform to be far more skeptical than most civilians, though I'm in a unique community that probably skewes my sample set. I just checked into a new duty station and when the CO presented his speech to a few hundred new arrivals he stated, "i no longer believe that mainstream news is information; rather, it is agenda."

My worldview has evolved greatly since joining. I couldn't find a decent job despite having two degrees and i wanted to travel and learn a language. I've learned a great deal having lived and travelled across the globe. It's frustrating how people will heap praise on me and thank me for my 'service' when in the back of my head I know that it is them that serves me.

At this point, I've decided to ride it out and save my money until the whole financial system collapses. I'm accruing a lot of money to perhaps start a business later on. If I succeed, it will be at that time that any service I may provide will begin.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 18:00 | 3601994 akak
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Thank you for this post, Constantine.

By being willing and able to think for yourself, you are probably doing your country a far more valuable service than are many of your pseudo-'patriotic' comrades.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 18:11 | 3602022 Herd Redirectio...
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Hope your savings aren't in USD, or in a bank, Constantine!

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:38 | 3601158 Tortuga
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If you and the 22 bitchezs that up clicked you don't know enough history to understand that Hitler, Tojo, Hussien, etc.etc. would have nuked the USA back to the stone age and not given it a second thought, you and they are part of the problem.

RICO all bankster and their ho politicians.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:55 | 3601186 oddjob
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Only criminals would use nukes against another country.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:14 | 3601247 Kirk2NCC1701
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Only criminals used nukes against another country.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 13:58 | 3601413 john39
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what about criminals who used (micro) nukes against their own country  (911)...

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 15:59 | 3601683 BeetleBailey
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then again, there's Nuke LaLoosh..........

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:01 | 3601217 Bay of Pigs
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The United States armed Saddam Hussein you stupid fuck. 

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 14:08 | 3601438 Kaiser Sousa
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"At a time when millions of Russians had already died on the battlefields, the ROTHSCHILD agents compounded the problems by their activities. Their endeavors – following the Illuminati’s philosophy founded upon misery and insecurity – to set the stage for a revolution following the German defeat, was successful.

The revolution started in February 1917 when the Czar was deposed and a provisional government under Prince Georgy Luvov took over. This government however did not succeed in staving off the national decline.  
Here I would like to continue the chapter “Background of the Bolshevik Revolution”, after TROTSKY and his rebels had left New York on the SS-Kristianiafjord with 20 million US$ in gold.

The boat – chartered by JACOB SCHIFF – was held up on April 3, 1917 by the Canadian authorities at Halifax, Nova Scotia. The Illuminati plan seemed doomed. But Jacob Schiff and his Illuminati friends in the U.S. government and in England exerted their influence and soon the voyage could continue. After arrival in Europe Trotsky went to Switzerland to meet with Lenin, Stalin, Kaganovich and Litvinov and to co-ordinate their strategy.


Perhaps it is interesting to note here that the heads and agents of all the nations involved in the war could meet in neutral Switzerland. At the Congress of Vienna in 1815 – after Napoleon’s defeat – Switzerland was restored. The confederation was guaranteed neutrality forever by the powers of Europe.

An accident?

Or, does not such a safe place in the center of Europe fit the plans of the parties living off the war perfectly? As Dr. Coleman proves in his books, the Black Nobility plays the main role behind the “Swiss Theater”.

Now the conspirators faced the question of how to get the rebels and equipment from Switzerland to Russia. The answer was furnished by the ROTHSCHILD agent and chief of the German secret police MAX WARBURG. He had them all packed in a sealed railway carriage and made sure this passed safely through Germany to the Russian border. When the train stopped in Germany for the first time, two German officers got on to escort it. They had been commandeered by General ERICH LUDENDORFF.

Max Warburg was the brother of Paul Warburg, the first chairman of the “Federal Reserve Bank”."


they die to keep the bankers free to pilage, impoverish, and enslave....

happy banker's wars day....

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 14:21 | 3601467 Herd Redirectio...
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One could go even further back, to when the Bolsheviks rose to dominance over the Mensheviks, because a certain Bund withdrew from the Second Congress...

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 14:23 | 3601472 Herd Redirectio...
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" Lenin argued for a small party of professional revolutionaries with a large fringe"

The more centralized, the easier it is to control (externally).

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 10:56 | 3601055 Bearwagon
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Today I'll drink a beer or three in honest commemoration of these soldiers, who paid such a high price to bring back law and freedom to my country (that would be germany). Here's to those that didn't come home ...

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 10:57 | 3601057 blabam
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No drink for the other poor saps? 

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:03 | 3601067 Bearwagon
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Of course I'll drink for all the others, too. Those who died deserve it (although those who send 'em regularly don't), but I have to spread the drinking over some time (being not such a big man), so I'll get to them later in the evening.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:05 | 3601072 SubjectivObject
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Yeah, that's the stuff; Trash every good sentiment, just because it's not fully conceived enough for you.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 14:19 | 3601462 Uncle Remus
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"law and freedom"


Apparently, it's for sale again.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 10:58 | 3601058 Atomizer
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Happy Memorial Day. Thank you for serving our country and to all those who have sacrificed to give us our freedom.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:04 | 3601070 WTFx10
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Happy Memorial Day. Thank you for serving our country and to all those who have sacrificed for the lies they were told.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:21 | 3601106 jbvtme
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god bless our soldiers.  without them there would be no war.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:13 | 3601244 Wile-E-Coyote
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I'm sure Bill Clinton, G W Bush and Mitt Romney will be shedding a tear recounting their war time experiences..... oh wait.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:27 | 3601267 malikai
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"You go die in a war, we'll stay here and collect the payoffs."

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:49 | 3601291 Rustysilver
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Add to the list my US senator from CT (Blumental) who claimed that he served in Vietnam at a speech in VFW. After the election it come out that  he probably would not be able to find Vietnam on the map.  Service was all state side in Marine reserve.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:06 | 3601074 22winmag
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Save it for Veteran's Day. Memorial day is for the dead. Veteran's Day is for the living. Oh, and freedom does not come from wars of foreign intervention.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:27 | 3601124 Jim B
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I think the point is to honor the troops, not the politicians calling the shots!

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:01 | 3601216 francis_sawyer
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Maybe somebody's kid died choking on a fur ball while piloting the joystick [which controlled the drone that Obama ordered to hit the scary wedding ceremony]...


Give him a 21 gun salute at Arlington...

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:16 | 3601251 Wile-E-Coyote
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I was told recently that the RAF are awarding wings to drone pilots on qualification, even though none of then have actually climbed in a real aircraft... lol.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:56 | 3601284 francis_sawyer
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Well, when I was a kid & used to play pinball, you got awarded, like, 10 free games if you got the highest score... If you got the high score on Tetris [on a Gameboy], a rocketship blasted off on your screen...


There used to be this adult site on the internet where the girls would strip off their clothes if you answered a question correctly [but I think it got taken over by the SEC]... In any case ~ questions would come up like:

"What subset of folks sports a global asymmetric stranglehold in the power nodes of banking, MSM, politicial activism, & jurisprudenc"... Naturally, [& based on all the wisdom that I've learned from ZH over the years], I'd enthusiastically reply... THE BANGLADESHI'S"!...

I never made it past the bras... It was truly a head scratcher...

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 13:52 | 3601400 Herd Redirectio...
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Fact 1) Many of those in positions of power (esp. banking and the media) profess to be practitioners of Judaism.

Fact 2) Not all practitioners of Judaism are in positions of power.

Its important to state this, because sometimes when you tell people "Jews run the world" they will think you are alleging the opposite of Fact 2)


Mon, 05/27/2013 - 14:15 | 3601456 Uncle Remus
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Mon, 05/27/2013 - 14:17 | 3601459 Uncle Remus
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"freedom does not come from wars of foreign intervention."

A few generations missed that memo.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:42 | 3601168 Tortuga
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To those that down clicked Atomizer's sentiment,  I offer an old veteran's cliche:


Eat shit and die!


RICO all banksters and their ho politicians.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 19:25 | 3602160 Gringo Viejo
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@ Tortuga

Roger that 'bro. As Shakespeare said........

"He jests at scars.....that never felt a wound."

Chalk 'em for what they are and be grateful you're who you are.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 10:59 | 3601059 Gringo Viejo
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Just finished tending the grave of Sgt. Tom Nickerson, Harwich, Ma. Died on the Ides of March, 1967, Viet Nam.


Left him a Marlboro 100.

RIP my brother.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:32 | 3601138 smlbizman
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enlisted or drafted?

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:21 | 3601252 Kirk2NCC1701
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Well, his daddy was not a Congressman, Senator or head of the CIA to keep him out or assigned to the National Guard (part time).  And he did not pull a Cheney ("...had better things to do").  So, chances are... he or his buddies won't get to be President of Vice President. 

My condolences.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 10:59 | 3601060 Skin666
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Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,

Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,

Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs 

And towards our distant rest began to trudge. 
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots 
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind; 
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots  
Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind.
Gas! Gas! Quick, boys! – An ecstasy of fumbling, 
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time; 
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling, 
And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime . . . 
Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light, 
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning. 
In all my dreams, before my helpless sight, 
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning. 
If in some smothering dreams you too could pace 
Behind the wagon that we flung him in, 
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face, 
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin; 
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood 
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs, 
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud  
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues, 
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest 
To children ardent for some desperate glory, 
The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est 
Pro patria mori.

Wilfred Owen
8 October 1917 - March, 1918

Isn't war lovely...

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:24 | 3601264 Kirk2NCC1701
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My 85 y.o. father is "...impressed at how much the government spends to keep old guys alive and in getting young guys killed."

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:02 | 3601065 q99x2
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Obama is removing Memorial Day from National Holiday status next year since there are no military personnel that serve the United States of America.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:25 | 3601118 MFLTucson
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They will change it to Home Land Security and Drone Spying day!  A special parade for gay people since they are now more important than regular American families.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:08 | 3601234 mofreedom
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throw a few islamsists in there with gays and watch the fur fly...

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 14:05 | 3601432 Buckaroo Banzai
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There will indeed be peace, when all the infidels are converted or killed, for that is what the Koran commands. SUBMIT OR DIE.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 15:20 | 3601585 Uncle Remus
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There's always the Religion of Piece (of the action).

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 14:59 | 3601546 jumbo maverick
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Ain't so, I saw a marine holding obamas umbrella the other day at a press conference.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:06 | 3601077 Kreditanstalt
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"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it."

But they do support government ALL THE TIME now.

Remember, those "serving" in the government's military are just more government employees.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:09 | 3601083 Long-John-Silver
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Don't forget the Veterans that served in secret wars. Wars such as the Tanker War from 1984 to 1988 and American Forces supporting the Contras in Nicaragua from from 1979 into the 1990's. These Veterans received no reconnection of their services, were never awarded medals, and never received Veterans of Foreign Wars benefits. Worse were the threats made to them and their family’s if they ever talked about what they were ordered to do and did in these wars.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:21 | 3601107 IridiumRebel
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"Fuck You MIC"


Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:30 | 3601120 Jim B
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The USO does a lot of good things for the troops, if you able to, today would be a good day to give a couple of bucks!

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:04 | 3601221 francis_sawyer
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I wanna see fur & early morning dew...

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:30 | 3601134 blindman
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Who really said “When fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag and waving a cross”?
has the entire entertainment industry in America become an
infomercial for the technology of homicide and a tool of
recruiting weapons systems operators?
stated in the form of an observational question.
why? by what grand design, who benefits?
USA vs. UK: Who’s More Fascist?
Fight Clubs: On Napoleon Chagnon
One anthropologist’s place in his field’s ongoing battle over questions of power, means and ends.
Peter C. Baker
Read more:
"In response, his old University of Michigan professor Marshall Sahlins resigned from the academy, citing not only Chagnon’s election but also the recruitment of NAS anthropologists by the US military. “The two are connected,” he told me recently. “Chagnon’s research and the imperial venture are both based on the same assumption, that pursuit of material self-interest is the natural human condition—the obvious, natural, best thing for the individual and the nation.”" ...

Read more:

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:11 | 3601240 Zoomie
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Who benefited? the 20th century the English speaking peoples defeated 1) the Austro Hungarian militarism and Ottoman Empire 2) Germanic, Italian, Japanese fascism, 3) USSR and communist expansion into central Europe, S Koream SE Asia.  They did not pick these fights. Score? Net positive for N S America, Western Eastern Europe, big chunks of Asia. 

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:22 | 3601260 Ghordius
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interesting, your "they did not pick these fights"

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:56 | 3601305 Herd Redirectio...
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Oh if only it were so simple.  WWI's primary two outcomes, IMO, were: setting the stage for WWII (Germany's war reparations), the break-up of the Ottoman Empire (a free-for-all in the Middle East resulted, greatly increasing Western influence over the region, oil exploitation started shortly thereafter). 

But I'm sure you'll find a certain banking family, originally based in Frankfurt, to be one of the biggest beneficiaries. 

Do you know where the jeeps were made, that were used in the Korean War? In Japan.  It was the start of the Japanese auto industry.  Think about the implications.

Do you know where the helicopters and boats used in Vietnam were made? In Korea.  It was the start of Korea's shipbuilding and manufacturing industry.

Those fights were all picked.  But the point is, the real beneficiaries were the financiers.  Questions to ponder.  Who decides which contractor is selected for large military endeavors?  Who finances the government, when it goes to war? Who owns equity interest in the contractor who wins the bid? 

If you can answer questions like that you will know who benefits most from 'Defense' spending.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 18:33 | 3602056 Herd Redirectio...
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Just to clarify, its not so simple to say the helicopters used in Vietnam were made in Korea. 

As far as I can tell (being born significantly after all this occurred) the engines and electronics and ammunition and explosives are likely to have been manufactured in South Korea.  Read up on Hyundai's founder, his early government contracts, business with the US army, etc.  Of course, equity and financing arrangements are sadly not detailed.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 14:27 | 3601477 Uncle Remus
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[Racial epithet], please.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:36 | 3601151 machineh
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'The holiday was officially proclaimed in 1868 to honor Union and Confederate soldiers.'

So it was. But in its continuing campaign of 'history rewritten by the victors,' New York's shitty little newspaper is campaigning to erase the names of Confederate honorees from military bases.

After 140 years, Lincoln's 'total war' is still underway against even the distant memories of popular resistance to the tyrannical U.S. fedgov.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 13:01 | 3601311 Overfed
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Jamie Malanowski should eat a gun.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 14:07 | 3601436 Buckaroo Banzai
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God bless the Confederacy. The South will rise again!

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:40 | 3601162 A Lunatic
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Rage Against the Machine No Shelter WITH LYRICS

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:44 | 3601179 FullFaithAndCretin
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"supreme patriotic sacrifice", what errant nationalistic horseshit.

Sacrifice is voluntary.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:46 | 3601184 11b40
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Bring back the draft. In fact, extend it to universal service. Make everyone an 'investor' in America. It would go a long way toward re-building the country on a foundation of shared sacrifice and brotherhood, as opposed to the constant focus on what's good for 'me', at the expense of what's good for 'us'.
Get rid of all these private contractors, who are largely glorified con artists, feeding on the Federal budget and using the profits of war to lobby for.....more war.
Return the National Guard and Reserve Units to the emergency status they always had before this "Homeland" insanity took hold.
Then, if war is justified, everyone would be involved. The government would not get away with half truths and lies for long, as a vested citizenry would demand explanation and hold politicians accountable.
Pay for wars as they are fought with higher taxes, war bonds, rationing....things that affect all common citizens.
I realize my views are not popular with many, but in your heart you know I am right.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 13:25 | 3601350 Catullus
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So kidnapping and military slavery makes people "investors"?

What's my ROIC?

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 17:39 | 3601944 11b40
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A better country.  A better future for your possible offspring.  Better leadership going forward.  A commonality of purpose that just might not tolerate the criminal class that is looting America.  For sure, no more casual wars we just drift into without much national questioning, debate, and clarity of purpose.

But, as I said, it may not be a popular idea, but it is the right idea.  Certainly, it would not be popular with the MIC, the Banksters, or most of those fimly ensconced in the top 1%.  Not popular at all with those who have no concept of sacrifice, let alone shared sacrifice.  Sharing is out of vogue with this greedy, grubbing, self-absorbed society we have constructed for ourselves.  We have always had the greedy, always had the cowardly and morally weak, but never glorified these people as we seem to do now.

Oh, and universal service does not mean just Miliary service.  It simply means that everyone has an obligation to do some time serving their country in some sturctured endeavor.  there is such a ting as pride in service.  Even draftees who were sent to fight a war they may not have believed in will tell you they are proud to have have fullfiled a duty to their country, and are better citizens because of it.  We need far more people in leadership positions who understand that sacrifice.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 19:36 | 3602185 Catullus
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Mon, 05/27/2013 - 14:08 | 3601443 Buckaroo Banzai
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Really just an awful, terrible idea.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 18:00 | 3601997 Melin
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Of all the statist violations of individual rights in a mixed economy, the military draft is the worst. It is an abrogation of rights. It negates man’s fundamental right—the right to life—and establishes the fundamental principle of statism: that a man’s life belongs to the state, and the state may claim it by compelling him to sacrifice it in battle. Once that principle is accepted, the rest is only a matter of time.

Ayn Rand

Tue, 05/28/2013 - 10:43 | 3603520 11b40
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You mean the Ayn Rand who died a pauper, living off the state?  That Ayn Rand?

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 18:53 | 3602094 wisefool
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During the IRS hearings last week, the prelude to the woman strolling in to take the 5th, they had a Harvard professor of tax law. Bow tie and all. Going back and forth with Rand Paul discussing why AAPL is "not really doing anything wrong, but sure, maybe it is not right."

Pay for wars as they are fought with higher taxes, war bonds, rationing....things that affect all common citizens.
I realize my views are not popular with many, but in your heart you know I am right.

I've dealt with very high powered tax attorneys. Both in and out of academia. I have studied it theoretically and in practice. The US tax code, starting with the Spanish american war, has ALWAYS been exactly what you described. It is a system to ration every aspect of life. To provide research funds for the next "war winning super weapon." To remind people they are being "protected". The modern advancements in the system have made people immune to the God given right to war weariness (empathy).

How many people plan major purchases every year based on their "refund?" How much of that goes to crap like refinancing new autos? Season tickets to sports games? Teveees? Vacations to places using old wartime airstrips? How many assets on depreciation schedules are truly for "work related activities?"

Ironic how segments of the Eisenhower Interstate System for National Readiness are now being named after sports heroes, car dealers, and there are some streets in places like Chicago named after pornographers like Hugh Hefner.

Until the tax code is flipped upside down, it will always be the tool of permanent war: on brown skinned people, on Terra, on poverty, on children, on the poor, on drugs, on climate change, etc.

Step 1. The most valuable and non destructive thing in a dignified human life is labor by choice. Why is that the single most punitively taxed activity in the current US tax code?

Step 2. You wont need Obamacare when the people who can and should recieve the highest after tax compensation are treating patients.

Step 3. See how a non-war economy flourishes for 100 years instead of this Keynsian crap.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:55 | 3601197 HalinCA
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I wonder if the same people that do the CPI also did the war death graph.  Looks like they got it wrong by about 50%:


For 110 years, the numbers stood as gospel: 618,222 men died in the Civil War, 360,222 from the North and 258,000 from the South — by far the greatest toll of any war in American history. 


But new research shows that the numbers were far too low. 

 By combing through newly digitized census data from the 19th century, J. David Hacker, a demographic historian from Binghamton University in New York, has recalculated the death toll and increased it by more than 20 percent — to 750,000.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 11:55 | 3601202 adr
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My grandfather died in 1991, right before the major downfall of America. My grandmother said he died at the right time, because he would have not been able to take Clinton and Bush. Let alone Obama.

If he didn't grab a gun and rush the White House under Cliinton, Obama would have made him grab a B-17 from an airshow and fly it right into the White House.

He would have said, "I lived my life, the best thing I can do is do something so my grandchildren can live thiers."

He died in '91 thinking he helped save this country. I'm glad he isn't around to see what the powers have done to it since he's been gone.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:01 | 3601219 monopoly
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Thank You Zero Hedge. Much appreciated.

Time for us to stop policing the world, try to change thousands of years of religious heritage just because we say so and bring all troops home. Let other countries take up the banner. We need to be done and protect just US on our shores. Too many sacrifices for too little accomplished. 

And I think most of us here are against about 80% of what Obama stands for and what he does but......I give him credit. He is trying to end wars that accomplish nothing and just protect our shores. Every Senator or Congressmen that desires war so the private contractor War Machine keeps pumping out new weapons we will never need should be required to send a son, daughter, grandson or granddaughter to war. Then lets see how much these useless men want us to go to foreign shores, kill our children and waste the most precious gift ever given. Life. Stop it all now!

Retired Air Force Colonel who fought in Viet Nam.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 13:33 | 3601365 Herd Redirectio...
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Obama is a puppet.  He's not trying to do anything except play golf, read the teleprompter, and make plans for his sweet 'consulting' gig after he leaves the White House.   The man is a figurehead.  The real power lies elsewhere.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 14:18 | 3601435 Bay of Pigs
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Obama is trying to end the wars? Good grief man, are you blind? (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, etc...). And Congress has not declared a war in decades. The last time was WWII, over 70 years ago.

Nothing is being scaled back. It's about time ALL Americans woke up on this propaganda and bullshit.

Edit: Not meant as a personal insult at all to you Sir. I'm just fed up with the false arguments put forth to justify the War on Terror. 

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 14:11 | 3601448 Buckaroo Banzai
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Respectfully, Colonel, you need to flush out your headgear RE Obama.

Other than that you seem to have the right idea.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 21:32 | 3602441 monopoly
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buckaroo, Yeah, I guess you guys are right. Just wanted to bring some light into this screwed up world. Not gonna happen, yet.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:08 | 3601231 Miss Expectations
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"Without freedom of thought, there can be no such thing as wisdom, and no such thing as public liberty, without freedom of speech."

B. Franklin


Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:08 | 3601232 bluskyes
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A battlefield is just a stockyard, and those who enter - cattle.

The cost is borne by the cattle, the profits shared among the butchers.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:14 | 3601248 rejected
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I only wish all those celebrating this day of remembrance could have seen the dying men loaded on my helo. At the time we drank the kool-aid and thought we were fighting for freedom etc.... Well, its been a long time gone and that freedom....well,  it's gone too,,, along with our constitutions bill of rights and our human dignity. All traded for supposed security. Happy Barbeque day. Next up... Dependence day!  

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 17:06 | 3601854 Professorlocknload
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++ there rejected,

"I love my country, it's my government I can't stand."

A Vet.


Mon, 05/27/2013 - 18:01 | 3602000 11b40
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+ 1000, Rejected.  

Having jumped in and out of my share of choppers, always with a tight sphincter muscle,  I have much love an respect for you guys, especially Medivacs.  Funny how hot LZ's and Medivacs just seem to go together, and few things are more scary than a chopper in a hot LZ.

There is a big love/hate relationship between a grunt and a helo.  Sitting on the tarmac, quietly smoking, everyone alone with their own thoughts, dealing with the fear of where we were going and what was waiting for us, the sounds of those rotors coming to load us up and fly us to hell were just terrifying.  But on the flip side of that coin, when those rotors were coming to pluck you out of the boonies, it was the most wonderful sound in the world.  To this day, that sound will make the hair on my arms stand straight up.

You are totally correct about young men and thinking we were fighting for God and Country.  That is what young men think.  They simply know no better.

You are right, too, about the loss of the Bill of Rights and the Chicken Littles among us who stripped of us our dignity to worship at the fools alter of security.

Welcome home, Rejected.  Thank you for your service.  

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:48 | 3601288 Kirk2NCC1701
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We're so conditioned by the MSM to think of uniformed soldiers when we say Memorial day, that we forget that many, many people died in the same wars, fighting on the same side, but who were civilian resistance/freedom fighters. 

Who mourns for them?  Who salutes their bravery -- that was voluntary, every time? 

/ God forbid that people realize that it is possible to fight & win against an organized army!  Why, more people might get the same idea. /s

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 13:36 | 3601371 Herd Redirectio...
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In Russia, during the German invasion, they used civilians, dressed them in army uniforms, and sent them WITHOUT WEAPONS to the front line.  Where they would act as a diversionary force!  Or, we could just call it what it was, innocents being sent to their deaths.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:55 | 3601304 Gunga
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Major General Smedley Butler USMC was a true defender of the people and the Constitution of the United States of America.
On this Memorial Day, Semper Fidelis .

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:57 | 3601307 Moe Howard
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May the many war dead rest in peace forever.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 12:58 | 3601308 Rustysilver
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I want to solute all those guys who had to serve in Bush 2 war. Even though we have all volunteer forces, when the contract expired they could not separate and go home.

Army needed men and the law was changed to keep you in.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 13:37 | 3601374 Herd Redirectio...
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What does that even mean "they could not go home"?  You mean they were ordered to resign their contract?  How many brain cells do these guys have?  And where are their cajones?  They still think they are getting that pension and university education that was promised to them, or what?

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 13:12 | 3601326 BattlegroundEur...
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Gotta hand it to America...You guys kill a helluva lot more than you do "sacrifice".

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 13:27 | 3601353 RottenAlpha
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Mon, 05/27/2013 - 13:34 | 3601368 wisefool
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Thankful for those who served and all who suffered great losses.

In the future I hope we declare just wars and people rush to pay the war taxes. Instead of what we do now in the USA, which is constantly perfect the war machine taxation model, and never declare war.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 13:45 | 3601388 Wanton1
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The hofjuden creates the chaos,

Books the profits,

Credits the dead. 

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 13:48 | 3601395 Uncle Remus
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Since the dawn of man - divide and conquer still works.

Fuck the puppets and the fools, seek the Geppetto.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 13:54 | 3601406 Herd Redirectio...
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It is amazing to me, even on a forum of like-minded sports fans, they will bicker and fight amongst each other.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 14:49 | 3601427 akak
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It's amazing to me that sports fans never seem to realize that they are explicity being herded into "we vs. them", collectivistic and falsely dualistic behavior and patterns of thought by virtue of being sports fans.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 15:29 | 3601600 Herd Redirectio...
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Sports is one of the only pure things left in our society (forgetting of course bribery, doping, match fixing).   What I  mean is, at least the competition is honest.  Its not fixed like the markets.  You're not questioning athletes motives like you have to question the talking heads and politicians, both play the game for money, but one group is honest about it (relatively).   Its not asymmetric like drone warfare.

Of course, the avg. Americans relationship with sport is as an observer!  Thats a problem. 

I really think sport is one of the (extremely rare) things that can bring all of humanity together.  As it stands, you are right, it is also used to pit fans of rivalling cities/countries against each other.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 15:46 | 3601633 Uncle Remus
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Pro Wrestling, for example. Which is eerily similar to Congress today.

Tue, 05/28/2013 - 16:38 | 3604925 Miffed Microbio...
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I apologise for down arrowing you and not responding which violates my personal code of ethics. However when I read " sports is one of the pure things left in society" I am overcome with such terrible nausea I find it impossible to compose a coherent response to you. May you someday find enlightenment. Hint: when you hear the term "Bread & Circuses" one of those terms describes sports. The first step is recognition. Once achieved then,and only then,is dissolution and therefore freedom.


Tue, 05/28/2013 - 20:14 | 3605704 akak
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Frankly, Miffed, given the heated if not outright violent reactions I have gotten over the years for expressing the above opinions, I am surprised that I received as many uparrows, and as few downarrows, as I did here.

Tue, 05/28/2013 - 21:13 | 3605842 Miffed Microbio...
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Well, count me in as one of the up arrows on this. I guess I am so confused and dismayed that so many here seem fully aware of the scam our society is at present and yet be infatuated with with mind numbing sports. I used to think it was just the only way men had today to relieve some pent up aggression or burn off some testosterone but I don't think it does that at all anymore. Most men I know DO physical things to decompress: run,hike,surf, ride bikes, work in the yard. They don't need a group of people around slobbering over beers and eating greasy food to feel part of a group. To me, it's got to be some form of addiction like gambling or alcoholism. A form of escape. Some guys have told me it is a hobby but I vehemently disagree with them. Hobbies to me involve some creativity of expression. I find nothing creative about sports and those who are so addicted seem unaware they are lobotomizing themselves. I wish they wouldn't be so hypocritical calling others sheeple. "One of the pure things left in society" egads! Professional sports is a multibillion dollar industry designed to suck every last penny out of dimwits.One never goes broke appealing to the lowest common denominator. I'll always be here to back you up on this one!


Mon, 05/27/2013 - 13:51 | 3601399 Arrowflinger
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Bush 2: "That man tried to kill my Daddy."

35,000 to 40,000 killed or maimed, better than a $trillion up in smoke.

You say Obushma. I saw Bushbama. Hail to the chief.

Today I salute and mourn a very bright, nice kid from Georgia who had the world open before him.

He stepped on a mine in 'Nam.

You say Saddam had WMD. I remember Gulf of Tonkin.

We learned absolutely nothing.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 13:52 | 3601403 Faust100F
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To those who had no choice other than prison to go into the service, I raise my glass (as I was one of them).

To those who let those who had no choice do the dying for them I piss on you.

For those that volunteered for the consequences they face in a war for investment bankers when not compelled to by a declaration of war and a draft, I say you are on your own.

You serve at the behest of the jews in New York and the world who have always let you do the dying and serve as their personal mercernaries, so they could exploit those citizens who have no power.  Hitler had it right!  

There is no glory in dying for those who readily expend your life so that they can continue down the evil path they have chosen.  In my mind the Jew has equal standing to the Islamic who wants all Infidels dead.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 13:56 | 3601409 dolph9
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I salute all of those who died so I have the freedom to post the following on an internet board:

The entity called the United States of America is finished, and faces civil war and dissolution in the coming decades.  By 2050 at the latest there won't even be such a thing as Memorial Day.

So, let's salute them while we can.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 14:06 | 3601433 akak
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And just who were the last American soldiers who actually "died for our freedom"?

I think one has to go back to the War of 1812 to find any, if even then.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 14:14 | 3601452 Bay of Pigs
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What are the 5 wars declared by Congress?

Answer: The War of 1812, the Mexican-American War, the Spanish-American War, World War I and World War II

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 15:44 | 3601646 Uncle Remus
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You forgot the War on Poverty, War on Drugs and the Global War on Terrorism.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 15:46 | 3601651 akak
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But those "wars" of course don't count, as they were designed to never end.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 15:52 | 3601661 Uncle Remus
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"Magnificent! Compared to war all other forms of human endeavor shrink to insignificance.
God help me, I do love it so!"

- General George Patton Jr

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 14:15 | 3601453 Buckaroo Banzai
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Yeah, but to be fair to the fallen, they believed they were fighting for our freedom. Just because they were lied to doesn't diminish the value of their sacrifice.

If anything, it puts a bigger burden on those who remain to figure out how to stop this madness.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 14:20 | 3601463 akak
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I fundamentally don't disagree with you here, Buckaroo, but the fact that so many US servicemen sacrificied themselves (in vain) does not imply that most or almost any of them "died defending our freedoms". 

Or else somebody needs to remind me just which of our freedoms were in danger from Haiti, and the Dominican Republic, and Grenada, and Lebanon, and Panama, and Iraq, and Serbia, and Afghanistan, and Iraq again.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 15:16 | 3601575 Uncle Remus
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Critical thinking was the first casualty.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 17:44 | 3601958 bluskyes
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Perhaps we should remember those who clung to their principles, and refused to go to war.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 18:27 | 3602042 Uncle Remus
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That's about as wide a brush as "patriotism". However, I don't disgaree, ahem, in principle.

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 14:17 | 3601458 blindman
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Upton Sinclair, ed. (1878–1968).
The Cry for Justice: An Anthology of the Literature of Social Protest. 1915.

The Illusion of War

By Richard Le Gallienne

(American poet, born in England, 1866–1947)

WAR I abhor, and yet how sweet
The sound along the marching street
Of drum and fife, and I forget
Wet eyes of widows, and forget
Broken old mothers, and the whole 5
Dark butchery without a soul.

Without a soul, save this bright drink
Of heady music, sweet as hell;
And even my peace-abiding feet
Go marching with the marching street— 10
For yonder, yonder goes the fife,
And what care I for human life!

The tears fill my astonished eyes,
And my full heart is like to break;
And yet ’tis all embannered lies, 15
A dream those little drummers make.

O, it is wickedness to clothe
Yon hideous grinning thing that stalks,
Hidden in music, like a queen,
That in a garden of glory walks, 20
Till good men love the thing they loathe.

Art, thou hast many infamies,
But not an infamy like this—
Oh, snap the fife, and still the drum,
And show the monster as she is!


Mon, 05/27/2013 - 14:19 | 3601461 Kaiser Sousa
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"When Hitler came to power, Germany was hopelessly broke. The Treaty of Versailles had imposed crushing reparations on the German people, demanding that Germans repay every nation’s costs of the war. These costs totaled three times the value of all the property in Germany. Private currency speculators caused the German mark to plummet, precipitating one of the worst runaway inflations in modern times. A wheelbarrow full of 100 billion-mark banknotes could not buy a loaf of bread. The national treasury was empty. Countless homes and farms were lost to speculators and to private banks. Germans lived in hovels. They were starving.

Nothing like this had ever happened before – the total destruction of the national currency, plus the wiping out of people’s savings and businesses. On top of this came a global depression. Germany had no choice but to succumb to debt slavery under international bankers until 1933, when the National Socialists came to power.

At that point the German government thwarted the international banking cartels by issuing its own money. World Jewry responded by declaring a global boycott against Germany. Hitler began a national credit program by devising a plan of public works that included flood control, repair of public buildings and private residences, and construction of new roads, bridges, canals, and port facilities. All these were paid for with money that no longer came from the private international bankers.

The projected cost of these various programs was fixed at one billion units of the national currency. To pay for this, the German government (not the international bankers) issued bills of exchange, called Labor Treasury Certificates. In this way the National Socialists put millions of people to work, and paid them with Treasury Certificates. Under the National Socialists, Germany’s money wasn’t backed by gold (which was owned by the international bankers). It was essentially a receipt for labor and materials delivered to the government. Hitler said, “For every mark issued, we required the equivalent of a mark’s worth of work done, or goods produced.” The government paid workers in Certificates. Workers spent those Certificates on other goods and services, thus creating more jobs for more people. In this way the German people climbed out of the crushing debt imposed on them by the international bankers."

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 14:22 | 3601470 Uncle Remus
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"What we have here is failure to rehypothicate."

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